Character gets a redesign

GZ is 10x better, I played through all of TPP in the GZ suit.

>Being older
No it isn't, retard. Solid Snake in MGS2 (aged 37) looked exactly like Big Boss in MGS3 (aged 29) but with a shorter beard. Had Solid Snake got to 40 without FOXDIE, he would still look exactly like Big Boss in MGS3.

He looks so retarded with his invisible eyebrows

I prefer the PW/GZ one, it's a shame that it doesn't really fit in TPP's levels and also Venom's arm and ponytail make it look weird as fuck

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I wasn't trying to say BiBo got a redesign in TPP. I was trying to say BiBo got a redesign in V (both GZ and TPP). Reading comprehension much?

Also,
>Venom isn't John
meanwhile
>"I am you, and you are me."
Also, they share the same model base, hence "his"/"he". Fuck off and let me treat them as one person.

well yes I do ?

>I was trying to say BiBo got a redesign in V
But he didn't

Why GZ was better than V bros

>"I am you, and you are me."
In regards to the Big Boss title, but the Medic wasn't born as John, he isn't him

it's really not

WHERE IS THE DEMON EDITION BROS????

how do we distinguish between "redesign" and "evolution of the design"?

Except for the penis on the back of the TPP sneaking suit

>BiBo
who started this shit

Someone very based and redpilled

I agree that Venom is really cool looking but it's not the same character.

I think the game that benifited the most form character redesigns was Kid Icarus.

The series went from some shitty forgotten NES mascot game to one of Nintendo's greatest hits in one game, and the new designs were a big part of that.

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jesus christ this looks so gooooood

Yea Venom is ((((OBJECTIVELY)))) pretty handsome. No homo.

Agent 47 had his face redesigned for Hitman 2018 and i love it. His face often looked off and weird in Hitman 2016, now it looks great and fitting for a man his age. Its the best face design he has had in forever

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Me actually

too bad the character became a fucking empty shell in mgs5.
and dont tell me it makes sense story wise or any shit like that. i dont care.
big boss was very likeable in mgs3 and was still a fucking character in the psp games.
in mgs5 he could just be a puppet as well.
but they nailed the visual design, i give them that.

Actual BiBo is just as talkative as he used to be

too bad hes only in one short scene.
i mean, i get what they were trying to do with 5, but i think it was so unnecessary.
trying to explain over 20 year old games with no real story was such a bad idea.
well it really doesnt matter now. the series is dead anyways, sadly.

He looks like a soulless husk in 2016.

the norwood reaper even took big boss its fucking over

niggerlips. the fuck have they done to BiBo

I'm glad KojiPro made him look like a pedophile autist for V. Soulless, sure, but making him look too much like Solid Snake for 3 was a mistake.

He looks the same, just older. The only big differences are his boomer hairline and his nose, and his nose looking different makes perfect sense as he's probably broken it a dozen times

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Did you not read , idiot? Plus, V Big Boss has a wider, more square jaw.

He literally has a full head of hair

I'm a baldinglet I know

Solid and big boss never looked exactly alike, retard. And solid didn't age faster because of foxdie, he aged faster because he had intentionally shortened telomeres as a part of the cloning process

OK, I got the rapid aging part wrong, but that doesn't invalidate my point. Since I am still trying to make said point, I'll get on with saying this:

>Solid and big boss never looked exactly alike, retard.
But they do. Solid's face is exactly Big Boss', but without a beard. Solid Snake in MGS3's Snake vs. Monkey minigame reuses Big Boss' models. The Legacy Collection renders all use the same model base.

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They actually dont look exactly alike. The twin snakes reuses snakes face model from mgs2, and theres a mod that puts mgs3 big boss face texture over solid and he looks different, proving that big boss isnt just solid with a beard

There in fact is differences between their faces, mainly their noses and jaws

Liquid and Solidus have the exact same face, as well. While the models have been graphically updated over the years, Solid's always shared the same face model with BB. And in MGS1/Twin Snakes, Liquid shares the exact same face model with Solid. In 2, Solidus shares the exact same face model with Solid.

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Is there any way besides deleting all my fucking data that I can play this game from the beginning?if I cloud upload my save and delete the local version will that work, or does it take the cloud version with it? I 100%'d it and really don't want to fucking lose it all, but I'd like to have the experience from the beginning again.

MGS4 Remaster when

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>devs too lazy to develop unique models even for major characters
Bravo.

>The Legacy Collection renders for both Solid Snake and Big Boss*

Keep saying bullshit you dumbfuck. Doesn't invalidate the FACT that Solid Snake in MGS3's Snake vs. Monkey minigame reuses Big Boss' models.
>Solid Snake in MGS3's Snake vs. Monkey minigame reuses Big Boss' models.
Solid Snake in MGS3's Snake vs. Monkey minigame reuses Big Boss' models.
>Solid Snake in MGS3's Snake vs. Monkey minigame reuses Big Boss' models.
Now fuck off.

Yes he did.

>Clones all have the same face
Woah.

>Doesn't invalidate the FACT that Solid Snake in MGS3's Snake vs. Monkey minigame reuses Big Boss' models.
It's a stupid minigame, they werent gonna waste resources making a new model just for that

Look at snakes design in smash, its solid's sneaking suit with big boss' face - and he doesnt look like solid

They have different faces, retard

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Then in ultimate we got Big Boss's face but a touch more Japanese.

Snake and BB have a different face in mgs4 though, despite been clones. Appearance isnt solely based on genetics, theres things like diet and environmental factors

>They have different faces, retard
This is the truth, pic related

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>MGS4 Remaster when
youtu.be/CYbCULhmUBA

Whatever you say, moron, but regardless if you feel like you're winning the argument, you're going to lose it all because of

Big Boss has a square jaw compared to Solid Snake.
They don't look the same.

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>comparing early PS2 era model
>to late PS3/Vita era model

Not only that but solid snake is skinny while big boss is builtfat and looks like he just finished SS + GOMAD

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It got me thinking.
while it maybe won't use big boss, the next MG may still features him if it's a remake of MGS3 or MG1/2.
will Big Boss look the same as GZ or a little different? will MGS3 big boss keep the same face since he will be voiced by hayter again?

>best clone is the shortest one
what did they mean by this

Low effort bait. Your ignorance is not an argument.

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Peace Walker Big Boss was peak design. Fuck Kojima for magically making him younger in MGSV.

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If they remake MG1 then it would look like an older Venom, pic related

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you forgot the cock on his back and padded cosplay tier suit that was apparently stealthy
mgs2 was peak
>1 looks all padded and combat heavy
>3 looks like a swimsuit with fucking orange and metal on it
>4 looks like a muscle suit, MAN ASS
>peace walker + ground zeroes was okay, form fitting but too combat focused and overly muscular
>five is just a remake of 1, too padded and bulky to be actually useful for sneaking, not to mention dickback
2 was just perfect, the only flaw it has is being fucking powder grey instead of black or something

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Should the next MG (if not a remake, and that's highly probable) use Big Boss again or switch to another character (Solid Snake or else...)

Venom actually is younger than big boss, look at his canon face during GZ (yes, it's this one, it's even used in the artbook of TPP.)

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I would nut if it's a Liquid Snake game during the gulf war.

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Their faces change every game because art style, MGS4 is the only fair comparison because it's the only time both show up in the same game not counting MG1/2 because they're MSX games made before Kojima decided Solid was a clone.

>1 looks all padded and combat heavy
In fairness, the guy was in Alaska, swimming in ice cold water. There is logic there.

Obviously that manlets are superior

Although solid is actually the weakest snake genetically, he did get the dominant genes but domintant doesnt mean better, the superior "soldier genes" were recessive and hence liquid is a more optimized big boss

Genetically

liquid > big boss = solidus > solid

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Why does he have that FMA symbol on his arm?

It's his first appearence though, it's not a redesign.

Medic's I.D says he's two years older then BB though. We were never meant to see the default face so they didn't bother to add aging details.

what? it just mirror the tattoo he had in MGS1

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Stress also has a lot to do with aging. Medic may be older but I don't think anyone's going to argue that BB was through a lot more shit.

It was all a sham made by the most desperate of fukushima fags

>Venom actually is younger than big boss,
He isn't. Venom was born in 1932 and John in 1935

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Looked less like a dagger and more like this.

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It's the symbol of the god Mercury.

That's not the Caduceus though

Wonder why they still use it in the artbook then.

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>artbook medic isn't missing his left arm

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Kojima is retarded, he used Asclepius 1 snake instead of the Caduceus 2 snake. Asclepius is medical in origin.

This, in peacewalker (1974) big boss is confirmed to be 39 meaning he was born in 1935, and medic's birth year of 1932 is confirmed on the passport

Would you say it's as dead as fukushima?

This is Big Boss' sixth appearance, shithead.

God i'm gonna miss Shinkawa for the future games.
as a consolation price, there's now the MGRR guy who work as freelance with Konami (he did the high level gears in Survive, sadly some of them never were included in the game because of the low playerbase.) + they still have some artist from PO , GB, and other games.

Technically Shinkawa could return as freelance but he won't because he's too close of Kojima.

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Correct.
That sounds about right. I think Kojima was trying to aim more for Mercury's affiliation for tricksters and thieves, but got the meaning wrong.

>character gets an important re-design cucial for his character development
>it's entirely optional and not connected to the story

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Solid was 37 in MGS2?
He actually looked younger than BB in MGS3 lol

>He actually looked younger than BB in MGS3 lol
It's the beard, or lack of in Solid's case.

Poor example

>being retarded

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If thinking he had a robot hand was part of the hypnosis what does the rocket punch actually look like to everyone else?

Those trailers were the ultimate bait and switch.

Really? could you post the gears he did and that were implemented in the game?

Solid in MGS2 and Big Boss in MGS3 used the EXACT same model you retard. Only difference is the quality had been improved by the time MGS3 came out.

God I love MGSV but I have a sour taste about the game never being finished and Konami not knowing what to do with it anymore

Niggernime

It has a dick on the back

Pic related are the male variants, only one he didn't do is the "middle left" one (the grey one with some little orange things on the shoulders, it was done by an unknown artist.)

those next are the female variants
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(((They))) can't keep getting away with it!

this...actually imitate Shinkawa art pretty well.
Yellow guy look like a rejected death stranding character.

BiBo is both John and the Medic, and they both look the same since 1984. To the designers, they are the same person. Even grouped in the same folder.
Also, OP here too. When I mean "redesign" I was comparing BiBo's previous prequel designs from 3/PW to his prequel design from V.

Point I was making that hie looks sloppy and bara in V and that's my kind of match. It's a shame that he'll never come back.

>BiBo is both John and the Medi
But the right BB and the left BB aren't the same person

You have issues

That's so lazy. It's just a younger Kiefer Sutherland

it actually is more closer to snake model than kief.

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The Big Virgin vs the Venom Chad

I
FUCKING
WANT IT

I was disappointed the Motherbase soldiers couldn't wear it.

V's real best look is in the combat suit, as I played him as a violent murderer with no subtlty compared to big boss
plus it makes him look massive

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Liquid game during the Gulk War focusing on leading a squad using guriella tactics, resulting in a new gameplay style.

They'd actually already revamped his MG1 Outer Heaven appearance in MGS 4.

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A)No beard
B)Simplier art style means less details that imply age. It's like saying a 40 year old anime MILF looks younger then real 30 year old women.

Big Boss is a title. It does not mean a person.

You're not getting it, are you? Do you have brain damage? ESL?

Liquid Snake speciality in war actually wasn't really stealth, it was vehicules.
from the wiki

"In 1990, Liquid joined the British Special Air Service, becoming the youngest person in history to join its ranks, excelling at parachuting, rappelling, scuba diving, free climbing, and use of small arms and military vehicles. " that's probably why he was caught during his infiltration, he wasn't really a Stealthy guy.

...And strangely Konami got Kazunobu Uehara
back, main programmer of MGS1-2-3 and GB yes, but also the programmer of Ace Combat: Assault Horizon;
The next MG might be a vehicule based game.

Amazing. This is just like the Chapter 3 posts and all of the Demon Edition posts, down to the child-like misspelling, over-attachment to wiki posts, and complete detachment from reality.

This.
next MG is a remake of MGS3, or maybe MGS1. but it's not a new game.
i can't see a 100% new MG game before 2025 (unless maybe a MGR2 for the 10 years of MGRR.)

Why did he not age between GZ and TPP? If I remember correctly they even remove his greying hair

>agree with post calling out delusions
>posts even more delusions

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Lighting, Big Boss still has brown hair in the GZ daytime missions.

Big Boss is a title that two people that look (clothes don't count) and sound the same share.
When I say "BiBo"/"Big Boss", I mean both of those people. How hard is that to understand?

yeah this was best. distinct from solid mostly through expression because he looks like an insanely pissed warlord

I don't know, how hard is it for you to get that the right and left BB aren't the same person even if they share title? Are you the same literal autist from the last couple of threads?

Big Boss is a character AND THUS A PERSON. It being a title doesn't matter when every Metal Gear game 99% refers to a character AND THUS A PERSON when saying "Big Boss".

realisticaly the konami guys are working on something, we just don't know what it is and when it will be revealed, beside not this year.
could be a remake, could be a new game, could even be a MGO4, we don't know. but a remake would just make sense marketwise.

really just a closer match to MGS V's concept art

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Wasnt there supposed to be a new MGSV announced during gamescom that would have more cutscenes, and other shit and integrated ground zeroes?

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b-b-but my title nevermind the fact Venom didn't exist before 2015 and no one irl calls him BB, simply Venom, so he can be differentiated from the guy we've been calling BB for 30 years

Believe it or not, 2's suit is actually just 1's without the combat vest.

This thread made me realized that if Kojima had never made Solid Snake into a Big Boss clone, there would've been none of this Naked Snake/Punished Snake nonsense.

> You will never play a MGS where you play a promising outer heaven recruit while having Venom as your mentor and contact person

Just end it.

Add a beret, low lighting, and there's a plausible explanation as to why Solid Snake didn't realize the FOXHOUND Commander grew a huge ass horn and facial scars when in Outer Heaven

lmao retard

that would be based as fuck

It was obviously bs.
While I believe Konami are working on something, we don't know what is it, and it's not going to be announced this year.

Of course they're not the same person, numbskull, but that doesn't matter when it comes to the point of my thread. What matters is that they LOOK the same. Looks, are a principle of redesigns. The point of my thread is GOOD REDESIGNS.

I'm using both BiBo's and calling them just BiBo as one because they SHARE THE SAME PHYSIQUE AND HEAD MODEL, WHICH GOT HEAVILY REDESIGNED AFTER PW. THAT'S THE REDESIGN I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE OP.

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I always assumed that Naked Snake was one running FOX HOUND, while Punished Snake was one running Outer Heaven.

Why did Kojima think that
>Snake but bara and evil!!1 LOL!
was a good idea? Big Boss should have never been made Snake.

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But they're not the same person, thus Venom isn't a redesign of John the guy that was born in '35, and Venom for all intents and purposes didn't exist when PW was made. You may think it's semantics but it's true. That's why the first two posts in the thread were cheeky about your OP

Exactly, that's the point. Solid knows John, so seeing "him" in Outer Heaven with brand a new horn and facial scars would be weird, especially when they would be gone 4 years later in Zanzibar

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>you fucked up my face *bang*

You are a literal retard. I am not saying that Medic is a redesign of John. I am saying that Big Boss in V got a great facial and physical redesign that greatly improved over his previous iterations (3 and PW).

The pic I posted in OP is showing "different" BB's don't matter, they share the same facial and physical design.

>I am saying that Big Boss in V got a great facial and physical redesign that greatly improved over his previous iterations (3 and PW).
Then your OP pic is useless as it has nothing to do with what you wanted to talk about, not that you even implied what you really wanted to talk about
>The pic I posted in OP is showing "different" BB's don't matter, they share the same facial and physical design.
But them sharing the same appearance is irrelevant since the right BB hasn't had a redesign yet, and you don't show the ones from the left BB even though supposedly the thread was about that

OP never implied that, you are an idiot. He implied that V BB's face (which both Naked and Punished share) is an improvement over 3 and PW's anime-ish faces.

pls gib Solidus game

>OP never implied that
He did
>He implied that V BB's face is an improvement over 3 and PW's anime-ish faces.
Of that was the case then he would've used a singlew picture of V's BB like pic related, instead of a low resolution comparison of Big Boss and Venom

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I want to fuck Big Boss bros

Big Boss and the other Big Boss share the same face base. Jaw, skin, hair, etc. Therefore, he technically did post a single picture of Big Boss. You are being THIS obsessed over nothing.

You're both fucking retarded holy shit

>Therefore, he technically did post a single picture of Big Boss.
No, he posted a picture of two Big Bosses. Since TPP, Big Boss is a title, doesn't mean if both you and me have the title of "Commander", there's only one Commander in the world
>You are being THIS obsessed over nothing
Except this was started by

>3D anime
Retards like you probably think that DMC was supposed to be "Anime" too.

He posted a picture of Big Boss. The two share the same exact character model. Why do you care that they're different people to make over 500 posts about that when that's not what OP was trying to focus on?

All he was trying to say was that said character model got redesigned. Just move on, holy shit.

Man MGS1 Solid is one handsome fella

>Venom is taller than Naked
They may both be the “real” Big Boss, but I think we all know which is the “more real” Big Boss.

>entire thread derailed into MGS design
>no mention of Raiden who has had two improvements to his design over three games
>literally went from gay twink
>to Grey Fox 2.0
>To the greatest cyberninja design fucking ever

>He posted a picture of Big Boss.
He posted a picture of two Big Bosses
>The two share the same exact character model
Ackchyually Venom's face IS a little bit different. John has a more prominent brow, and temple area. Cheek bones and jaw structure are different too. Venom's eyes are more down turned, and angular, and he also has. Then there's their complexion and face length
>Why do you care that they're different people to make over 500 posts about that when that's not what OP was trying to focus on?
Because OP fucked up and doesn't recognize it, and also...
>Just move on, holy shit.
... I have nothing if not free time, baby

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The Skull Suit is half cool half retarded. I don't like his headgear in 4, but the body looks great, as it does in Revengeance

>Ackchyually Venom's face IS a little bit different
No. You are comparing pictures taken from slightly different angles and FOVs (which can fuck up everything).

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Fugg. Well OP being wrong and me having free time still stands

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peak venom

Left is too scrawny and right is too thicc. Left would look better if the head was a little bit smaller.

OOPS OP wasn't wrong. He posted Big Boss. They look the same, and all he tried to talk about was looks. Thus, "Big Boss", especially when they're typically treated the same. All he wanted to state given is "Big Boss got so sloppy and bara and that makes my boner rise so hard".

>exact same model
>just different
It's real easy to tell when you're arguing with a retard but you just make it even easier.

>OP wasn't wrong.
But he was
">character gets a redesign"
">it's actually great"
>he says, while positng a comparison pic of John and Venom
Venom is factually not a redesign of John, period.

that's not a redesign, he just aged

You apparently missed the whole point. The pic in my OP never tried to compare John and Medic.

It only tried to show Big Boss.

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>The pic in my OP never tried to compare John and Medic.
You implied as much, given the context of both the OP and the OP pic. No mention of past itinerations of Jogn at all. Context matters.

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hard difficulty making the ai not be completely retarded

>age
Then explain why Solid Snake at 37 looks exactly like Big Boss at 29.

If a MGS2 remake was made KJP, Solid Snake would, head model wise look exactly like GZ/TPP Big Boss.
If a MGS3 remake was made by KJP, Big Boss would, head model wise look exactly like GZ/TPP Big Boss.

the point being you have shit taste, my dude

If you weren't so dumbass, you would have registered from the OP picture being of Big Boss and the OP that he was comparing Big Boss to V to his past iterations.

You don't need a picture of his past iterations if you played ALL OF THE FUCKING GAMES.

>If you weren't so dumbass, you would have registered from the OP picture being of John and Venom that OP actually meant to compare, not John and Venom, but John and 3/PW John
Uh-huh

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It still hurts

Your life was ruined by CGI cutscenes of a pachinko machine based on an old PS2 game?

pretty much the same AI as in TPP.
Install the Infinite Heaven mod and extend enemy sight and hearing ranges to realistic levels

>bibo
No

Only dumbasses care that the guy on the right is not the OG Big Boss.

No argument, huh?

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A dumbass does not necessarily mean someone who is stupid. A dumbass can also mean an autist.

What I should have said is:
>Only autist care that the guy on the right is not the OG Big Boss.
Anyways, stop being an autist.

>Only autists*
Fuck.

>A dumbass can also mean an autist
It can't. And still no argument.

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stop being a prick and say that the picture in OP is a picture of BB
anything to do to get OP to shut up

>anything to do to get OP to shut up
Dude I had stopped after . 32 minutes went by between it and . Not my fault.

just call the guys in the picture BB and get on with it
Anyways, let's actually get back on topic
>most obvious answer

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Come on guys post some more redesigns
pls

Snake's sneaking suit in 5 reminds me of a proto mgs1 snake.

That's the point :S

glad they altered the sneaking suit for snake in GZ, it was way too blue and bright in peace walker. I get they were trying to go for mgs2 look but it just didn't work for pw and it would've looked too goofy in v
definitely a good redesign.

The only reason it's bulky and full of padding is because Big Boss is bara. In other words, he has really giant muscles.

And he's wearing pants in mgs1.

>doesn't understand what a redesign is
>calls others retarded

Venom has a fairly average build actually. The suit is all padding.

>I'm glad KojiPro made him look like a pedophile autist for V.
Strong chin, not fat, normal sized nose, isnt balding...
I don't know what you are on about user

>Big Boss
>fairly average build
Not what the concept art says.

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Solidus game would just be TPP side ops though.

Looks like a pedophile autist to me with that creepy uncanny valley impression
Also, his body is builtfat, so technically, he is fat

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It does give a MGS1/TW vibe to it which make it really nice

Well in the actual game he looks like a guy who lifts 2 hours a week.

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I get autistic about it having the MSF logo when you're no longer MSF. Aside from that it's much, much better.

Getting rid of the Bandana is the best thing that has ever happened to Snakes design.

he's 10-15 years older by then

Read and fuck off

People in this thread talking about Big Boss and Vemom as if they're the same person

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>"I don't like Solid Snake's bandana!"

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XoF soldiers looked cooler

From hot to thot.

>I hate Snake's bandana
Post yfw you hear something like this

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Is Solid acting like Big Boss in the Smash codec conversations a deliberate fusion or the the dialogue writers still having a MGS3 mentality?

Shut the fuck up, they're Big Boss de facto
Now get back to posting great redesigns like what OP asked

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A deliberate fusion. Why do you think he's called "Snake" instead of "Solid Snake" there?

Dunno. In game he still looks very thick and juicy. Around 8-10% larger than his soldiers.

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Same reason Big Boss always reverts to going by Snake at the start of his adventures, the general gaming public merely knows of "Snake", not Solid, Big Boss, or Venom.

This thread is very stupid/lunatic and this post is the only one that I'm going to make in here.

>the general gaming public merely knows of "Snake"
It's more than that. Kojima even calls Big Boss "Snake" when relating to MGS4 context.

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wtf
Stop Kojima
STOP
He's not Snake in MGS4 STOP, FUCKING STOP

b-but my Escape from New York...

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>the others
Does he personally hate Solid or something? Jeez.

Did you not play MGS1? One of the big twists is that it Liquid had things backwards and it was he who got the 'superior' dominant genes. It's even stated that Liquid has a poor understanding of genetics.

None of the sets is better or worse than another.

yes, he hates solid snake, you know the guy he tried to make out as some mass murdering asshole that does what he is told instead of the misunderstood hero that everyone loves?
why do you think he stopped putting solid snake into MGS and then make the last time you play solid snake is when he is dying of old age and is some carefree chill guy?

>Solid Snake
>mass murdering asshole
>ever
:^)

bro he's a super soldier he and constantly whines about those times he killed people on the battlefield so he MUST be a mass murderer

He's never whined about it I don't think, but as far back as MGS 1 they emphasize that he is a killer, they have his own character emphasize that he enjoys fighting, likening it to a sport as Ocelot does to torture, before he checks himself at the Raven boss, while also having other characters affirm that he's killed many combatants and done some shady shit in his past, hence the prospect of blackmail in MGS 1.

he literally whines about it all game, did you even PLAY MGS1?

That said, the whole point of those monologues with every boss in MGS 1 was that his character then was supposedly very similar to BiBo, in personality in and motivation, hence having the former(ly) Outer Heaven mercs spill their guts to him at the end as if they were confiding to Big Boss himself.

>they emphasize that he is a killer
That's just American translators being American translators and getting everything wrong as a result.

in a negative cry baby sense?
Multiple times they have him upfront that he's a killer, but I only ever remember it being conveyed that he was at piece with who he was. It wasn't until the Raven boss after all the shit with Meryl that his attitude changes, from what I remember.

When you say whine in this context I take it to mean like he was crying about it like a kid.

>tempted to get Snake style mullet
>I could either look like a retard, or the coolest dude in the galaxy
>not sure if I want to take the risk

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Maybe. Full disclosure I'm only familiar with MGS 1's English script.

Depends on your head/face geometry. Also keep in mind snake has 'anime hair' syndrome going on so you won't look exactly like him.

But even for Twin Snakes the revised script didn't have hardly an impact on Solid's attitude there.
If there's a big disconnect here then I'm not aware.

You will look like a complete retard with a bushy mullet. It just doesn't work. To get similar results you need course, straight hair, some kind of cream or wax pomade, and unknown amounts of hair spray.

It doesn't work if you're skinny or fridge, you'll just look like a fag.

I can't get into it. It's like an overdesigned and shittier version of MGS1's suit.

I want to get fucked by 64 year old Big Boss while he wears the TPP sneaking suit.

Those are different camera lenses you fucking retard. They have the exact same character model. Swap between the Venom and BB models in the ACC with mods and you'll see the only difference is in the textures.

It's him making autistic noises as he charges and enemy.

Just shave your head and it'll grow back naturally just like his hairstyle.

MGS3's model unironically looks cooler.

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don't ask me how I know this works

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Nice of you to reply before reading the thread

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