Is there characters that are considered a Lightning character?

It doesn't apply to Rosalina, especially the Toadette push
>fanbase hates her
Maybe on on Yea Forums, but a lot of them are daisyfags

Dude, tons of people fucking hate Lucario.

I was so pissed off when X and Y tried to force one into my team. I left the fucker on top of that tower with the roller blade gym leader to rot.

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I agree.
Rosalina isn't really hated, she actually loved.
Just a bunch of disgruntled Daisyfags hate her.

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>most of the description doesn't even apply to the actual Lightning

>they are actually copying the exact same plot of marie by making her some goddess type character
Fuck this shit.
Why can't Atlus make new characters more original than shoehorned mary sues?

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The amount of people who hate Lucario is dwarfed by the amount of people who like Lucario, my dude. Lucario is insanely popular.

Only daisyfags hate Rosalina because she was added to smash and mainline Mario games when she's just a clone

Let's face it, Lucina or Marth is the face of FE in the public eye. Some e-celebs convinced people to vote Lyn into 1st in CYL1 and IS has assumed she's the mascot ever since.

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Rosalina is best girl.

Lucina and Ruby Rose

Lucario is cool though, even if overexposed.

Daisyfag here, anyone who thinks any of the three aren't absolutely great girls is nuts.

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seething grinchcuck

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Lucario is Pokemon's furry lightning, Cynthia is the normalfag lightning

More like lucariWHO

>a starter pokemon is a supporting
>shoehorned into all following games
He wasn't even playable in pokken that was Decidueye

I'll let you in on a secret.
The guy fires kahamehehas
Whether or not that's true, that's what the fanbase believes.
More people like it when a pokemon can fire kamehamehas than when they cannot.

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Just thinking about Lightning makes me think about what was Toriyama thinking about liking assless angry bitches.

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you're fucking nuts if you think Lucario is more disliked than liked

>Rosalina
>hated by fans
You're funny, I'll kill you last

there are more pictures of lucario porn out there than there are brain cells in your head, apparently

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Yep

I think people actually like rosalina. Galaxy was a great game, ff13 was divided.

Lucario was suppose to become a major mascot from its creation, but it never reached pikachu/charzard levels of popularity despite being relatively popular

Lucina.

At this point I am 80% certain that most of the faggots that do this shit are falseflagers, but if you are not let him go user he is dead let the Grinch rest

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fpbp

>kahamehehas
that's a really fun word to say

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Lucario is basically Goku: the Pokémon.

>uses martial arts and ki attacks
>gets stronger by surviving critical injuries
>transforms into a stronger form (a "super form" if you will)
>voiced by Sean Schemmel
>has a tail (and it's a steel type so good luck cutting it off)
>uses Bone Club like the power pole

>Lightning
>Aigis and Marie
>Lucario
>Cynthia
>Rosalina
>Lucina
>Nergigante

Honestly? It doesn't even need to be hated. It just needs to be pushed abnormally hard by the devs.

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FUCK I WANT TO PRONE BONE AGNES

Lucario is one of the top 10 most popular pokemon and it has nothing to do with autistic Yea Forums furries memes

>See thread with multiple characters in the OP image
>Assume it's Smash Rosterfagging
Fucks sake this place has ruined me

>Lightning's ass

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I mean it pretty much did though. Now Zoroark? That one failed.

Being a "lightning" used to mean "pushed despite popularity". Now it means "genuinely popular character I don't like"

Nah. Marth is the face of the franchise and Lucina is a Lightning. Lyn is just the reaction of the fans against Lucina

his attacks looked like a rasengan in the movie

>Game was so shit even FEfags disown it
>Corrin still makes it into fucking Smash before most people even get the chance to play his game and realise both he and his game are shit
That should be enough, but there's also the fact Fateshit was so heavily pushed for Warriors too

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Every female BlazBlue character

that could be greninja?

I don't understand how this shit was allowed to go on for as long as it has, it's even infected this thread

>Rosalina
>Lucario
But more like them than hate them.

What role does she have in the story and how badly does it hurt the game?

I'll skip her game altogether because it's such a shameless cashgrab.

But Aura Sphere is a fighting type attack, not flying. Which is the closest thing to an air type.

Nerg is cute. CUTE!

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Nah, Greninja was popular since he was leaked. Zoroark used to be a Lightning, but Gamefreak gave upon it quickly.

Like all Atlus re-releases she locks most if not all the new content behind her questline where she's instrumental

No a perfect example, but it's close enough

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Silver is even worse.

>Rosalina is Nintendo's Lightning!
I thought we were past this already.

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Rosalina is overrated

Wasn't this just assblasted Daisy/Waluigifags?

None care about him
People like Silver

This, Pauline is the thinking man's woman. She runs a city, all Peach does is smile, wave, bake cakes, play games and get kidnapped.

After 06 people wanted Silver gone forever, but Sega persisted in shoving him in.
Now the fanbase has a weird stockholm syndrome for him.

That's the impression I was under.

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True. Although I think Silver actually has a sizeable fanbase in Japan (at least in respect to the small amount of people over there who actually care about Sonic) which probably contributes to his inclusion.

I dont like her because I’m not a jizzmind

Ruins all three of the original endings.

>voted most popular female character in japan
>hated by the fanbase

>Rosalina
>Lightning character

Literally has as much representation in spinoffs as any other Mario character, are you gonna call Peach a Lightning Character too?

Lucario has been forced down our throats for over ten years and it still isn't a top ten popular pokemon. The only pokemon shilled harder is Pikachu but pikachu actually sells games and merchandise

5 years ago, Rosalina was the target of all the rosterfags during Japan Time 2.0 (along with Palutena and Lucina). Back in January of that year, everyone thought that their favorite character was being shafted by Rosalina and that she was a "literal who who didn't deserve the spot." They were also extra buttblasted since she got into 3D World as well, although that part was mainly Daisyfags and Waluigifags.

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Not a perfect example, but I don't get Bethesda's constant obsession with haphazardly shoving super mutants into all of their Fallout games, especially when the fanbase would be absolutely fine with their absence.

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You can always find lots of people who hate it for literally anything. Doesn't mean shit.

Silver's got the dank future kush, that's why everyone tolerates him.

>All these people thinking lucario and rosalina werent very hated
>Forgetting literally the term Nintendo's lightning
This place died in 2009 and children use our corpses as puppets

Here's a question.

Do people dislike lightening because she's a bad character, or because she had three games that people didn't like?

>Daisytrannies are still seething about Rosalina

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>Show up in a couple of spinoffs
>Somehow this makes you a lightning character

I guess fucking Bowser is a lightning too

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Yes.

Pikachu is great though.
Hating Pikachu is like hating chocolate.

Lightning Returns was a decent game with an interesting gimmick. I cant say I hated her in that game because she felt so fun to use

Based choice.

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I don't hate or like Lightning as a character. Her games just suck though, even though they kinda did get better. Sorta.

At this point you can't really convince these idiots of anything. Lightning has placed high in so many FF popularity polls including being #1 in a female popularity poll but these braindead retards will convince themselves she's not popular and it's only shilling.

>Some side character is equal to the main villain
aight

Chocolate? CHOCOLATE?! CHOCOLAAAAAAAAATE!

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Vector isn't a popular character among Sonic fans but he makes more appearances in Sonic spin-offs (like M&S) than Rouge or Espio

Anyone remember how much Capcom pushed him despite the backlash?
Even though they went back to the original storyline, they still wish they can make DmC2 one day.

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Lillie from Pokemon Su/Mo. Rosalina's not a Lightning because people actually liked her before the intense shilling.

Theyre basically the same in spinoffs. Its a bunch of unjustified hate of a character created solely for a meme, a very outdated one at that.
Is Daisy a Lightning Character?
Is Bowser Jr?
Is Waluigi?

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>Rosalina
>Hated by the fanbase
Shit meme.

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i'm fairly sure that they ALSO did this with the strange journey remake if I am not mistaken, with space yukikio. I don't have an answer man, lack of ideas maybe

People like Lillie, she's the only worthwhile design in Su/Mo and has an actual character arc seperate from the main character unlike 100% of the other supporting casts in pokemon.

Lillie is popular too, and even then Pokemon also has Cynthia who has been pushed since way before, and also happens to be very popular.

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>People like Lillie
Lolifags aren't people. Also she has the same character arc as Wallie but done worse. The game is more about her than the fucking main character.

Pokemon Characters and creatures are only ever pushed if they're popular in the first place, doofus

>Listening to Japanese polls
The Japanese will always have shit taste.

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the "Nintendo's Lightning" meme with Rosalina was always retarded. She was barely in SMG2 and she was liked by the fanbase anyway.

I thought Cynthia was pushed after people liked her. Lillie was the focal point of Sun and Moon.

You expected the Main Character to have a story arc?
After fucking DECADES of being nothing but an avatar?
Retard.

Marth is the face of the franchise, E-celebs and waifufags corrupted that and now Lyn or Lucina the most well liked

Cynthia LL art is great

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>Lightning was supposed to be support
>literally the main character of one of the biggest budget/longest lasting entries in the series
XIII was shit, but you can't seriously be surprised that she makes it into every crossover. The only game with more direct sequels/prequels is FF7.

Cloud is the true Lightning, honestly. People just have Nostalgia over that whiny cunt

>she's the only worthwhile design in Su/Mo
lmao. People like Guzma 1000000x more than that dumb slut

>Also she has the same character arc as Wallie but done worse.

Fuck off. I didn't like Sun/Moon but this is such a stupid thing to say. You only saw Wally like three times throughout the game. He goes from being a pussy to all of a sudden being brave and wanting to challenge you as a rival except the player never sees any of that development. It's all off-screen. To say it was done better than Lillie is a fucking joke.

>People just have Nostalgia over that whiny cunt
He really wasn't very whiny at all in FF7 though

No, but I didn't think the game would be more focussed on what she's doing than what the personal journey. Everything that happens in the game revolves around her.

Ah yes and your polls are?

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Are moms girls?

I agree. At least Sephiroth/JENOVA was interesting as a villain; Cloud was bland and generic. He reminds me of Shinji in Evangelion, he's a boring MC who takes the entire length of the story to make some year-one tier psychological revelation about himself that everyone else knew from the start.

Lillie's character arc moved at a snails pace as she went from being extremely irritating to slightly less irritating but still incompetent. Wally was endearing, at the very least.

This

>"Haha Cloud is whiny emo edgy xDDDD"
Play the fucking game, Cloud was flanderized by Advent Children

Guzma had a decent character but his design was one of the worst in Pokemon

>nip polls
Might as well link a strawpoll

The only post that makes sense

This. It should have been Mimikyu

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So because you’re a contrarian that means these characters are hated by the fanbase? The only one of these characters that you see more disdain for rather than appreciation is Marie. Even then it’s not really an issue.

>Lillie isn't popular, but I don't need proof or anything
How not compelling at all, user.

Uh huh, why don't your post your official Western Poll?
Oh wait there isnt one

>Lightning
>Hated by the fanbase

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>The only one of these characters that you see more disdain for rather than appreciation is Marie.
Bullshit, I see everyone shit on Lightning all the time. It's happening in this thread.

Its a decade old meme and youre supposed to follow it blindly otherwise you're a newfag newfag bleh blah bluh blyh

>>It's happening in this thread.
>Using Yea Forums, the contrarian hub, as a way to determine public perception

I don't see why you're trying to pretend like this isn't a point of view others have had before. Here, I'l type "lightning is a bad character" into google and post some of the top results
ign.com/boards/threads/lightning-is-such-a-bad-character.454566464/
home.eyesonff.com/showthread.php/132806-Lightning-is-the-worst-character-in-the-history-of-Final-Fantasy/page2
kotaku.com.au/2014/02/do-final-fantasy-fans-really-want-more-lightning/
reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/770jqy/man_people_really_hate_lightning/
I don't even see why you'd pretend like she's universally loved.

Everyone shits on XIII, Lightning is collateral damage. Nobody stuck through the 60+ hours of XIII to find out if she actually has a character arc.

>IGN
>Reddit
>Kotaku
>eyesonff

I refuse

>Top results from google are popular normie sites
Are you retarded?

Rosalina was faded out of pretty much everything but sports at this point. Hell, the only game you could argue she was lightninged into was Mario 3d World, and that just happened to be a game with multiple characters and character abilities.

Isabelle is a really good example of one. Overshadowed all the rest of the Animal Crossing cast. Cynthia from Pokemon I'd say counts. Harley Quinn if we leave the Yea Forums universe.

>IS assumes she's the mascot ever since
ISIS put her and Lucina in FEW after the poll, and that's it, unless you count Heroes alts, when all the lords were getting legendaries, she had the CYL one, so it's only the wedding one, valentine one and summer one

I want to play as Lubba in Mario Kart too!

>Rosalina was faded out of pretty much everything but sports at this point. Hell, the only game you could argue she was lightninged into was Mario 3d World
This idea kind of falls flat when you realize she has concept art for Oddessy. They''re still thinking about her.

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>I left the fucker on top of that tower with the roller blade gym leader to rot.
wierd. when i played HG/SS i have spent hours to get the perfect riolu with egg move and a decent nature. and here you are - not knowing how lucky you are

People liked Lubba, or the Starship Mario?

Zenos from FFXIV

Nobody is saying she's universally loved. In fact it's just the opposite. The people who shit on her pretend she's universally hated and the only reason she gets any exposure is because of dev favoritism. They unironically believe she's as unpopular as say Jar Jar Binks.

Nah, Isabelle is legit cool

You idea falls off when you realize that never left the concept art phase even though they easily could have done it.

Apparently Clefairy was originally designed to be the mascot pokemon for gen 1, but it got switched to pikachu last minute. You could argue that pikachu is the ultimate "Lightning". It's even an electric type.

This.

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>supposed to be supporting/game specific
>Lightning is literally the protagonist
>Lucario is a fucking Pokémon who was supposed to be in all future games like every other Pokémon

I don't even know why Rosalina would qualify since she's a questgiver/support character. And Marie is more of an orthodox Mary Sue, as is Lightning.

Based on the art, Rosalina would have been a guitarist, likely one of the ones for the band mission in New Donk. Probably cut because they don't really have the characters to fill out a band, so they went for generic NPCs.

So you're mad that Rosalina was shoe horned into... concept art?

I mean, Toon Link is cute but should he have this much games?
>WW, MC, PH, ST, TH
HE HAS FUCKING FIVE GAMES

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But rosalina and Lucario are popular

>Miyamoto is actively trying to fuck over Rosalina
>She's still popular

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Vector breaks up he cast pretty well since he doesn't use the standart furry build

hur hur she's a bell xD

Outside of WW and PH none of those Links are the same character.

I mean I guess I agree to that, but I'd still say Lightning is a divisive character. Someone like Lucario fits this a bit better.

Actually, that's a good example of a Lightning.
A character who overstayed his welcome, but stays relevant because he is the Director's pet.

I wouldn't say actively. The storybook thing happened over 10 years ago, and Miyamoto is going to go senile soon enough. He's been more active trying to fuck over Paper Mario and Star Fox (at least during the Wii U era).
Also, Pikmin 4 WHEN?

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They still have the exact same artsyle and design though.

Not even NES or OoT Link got shilled as hard as Toon Link.

>he is the Director's pet.
this sentence is pretty hot

spotted the smashfag. actual pokemon fans know that pic related is game freak's lightning.

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After how autistic I found Mario RPG fans to be they deserve Shiggy.

Silver was a main character in his debut so it makes sense that he'd be a natural addition to the character roster, as opposed to a one off villain of the week that shared the spotlight with 5 others.

>Lucario existing = forced down our throats

no its pikachu
charizard isnt pushed a bit

Sonic has a low amount of bigboys.

>Charizard
>Not pushed
>Gets 2 Mega Evos, is retconned into being Red's canon starter, is the Galar Champion's Ace and is going to get a Gigantomax

How can you say that when people like Pikachu?

>literally the mascot of the entire series
This is why this meme is so fucking retarded. It's so autistically arbitrary that people just assume that it just means "character that gets given a lot of spotlight", than the neckbeards that actually take this seriously can't even agree on what that arbitrary criteria even is or who fits into it and it all devolves into "popular character I don't like"

what's wrong with marie?
she got one dungeon where she's relevant in her own game and comes back in spinoffs as a velvet room resident along with the rest of the velvet room residents

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Before it debuted in the games
>Starred in its own movie
>Had the highest rank in the original Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games named after it (which puts a statue of Lucario outside of your base permanently when you reach it) and got a metaphorical dick sucking from one of the strongest characters in the game
>All over the marketing for Diamond & Pearl
After it debuted in the games;
>Shows up on the teams of prominent NPCs in almost every generation since its debut (in DPPt alone there are two trainers who have it as their ace and Cynthia has it on her team)
>Originally outright replaced Mewtwo in Smash
>Has most of the first third of XY devoted to how great it is and how it was the first Pokémon to Mega Evolve, culminating in a forced Lucario vs Lucario battle on top of a building housing a giant statue of Lucario that ends with you receiving a free Lucario
There's probably more I'm forgetting. It's easily one of the single most shilled Pokémon of all.

>got its own movie
>secret character in gen 3 games
>in every smash game since its debut
>first mega pokemon

Charizard is popular enough to justify getting pushed. Same with Pikachu and Mewtwo. It's a case of "this pokemon is popular and will sell well" vs "if we make this pokemon popular it will sell well"

I liked him since 06 (and met big fans for him back then), can't blame him for a shit game. Nothing has changed

Even I that isn't that into pokemon am fucking tired of seeing him

I was respoding to the idea that Charizard isn't getting pushed, because he is.
Also, Lucario is rediculously popular too, so his shilling is deserved too.

There's no way of telling how much of Lucario's popularity is really genuine, though, because it was being shilled to high heaven from the moment it was revealed and is still shilled to this day. Even for Pokémon like Charizard this isn't true to the same extent as it is with Lucario.
I imagine if TPC hadn't made a big deal of the thing it probably would have just been modestly popular, mostly among furries, but not even close to being the pseudo-mascot it is now.

Honestly, Base Eevee is more of a lightning than Lucario at this point.
Kirby is developing two possible Lightnings, Magalor and/or Susie.

Everyone always bitches about Lightning's ass, but I still haven't seen it.

It can shoot Hadokens and even vanilla Lucario is competitive. It would have a large fanbase even without shilling.

Isabelle is a bigger fucking Lightning than Lightning herself.

Because it doesn't exist.

She's Lucifer's daughter and does the "let's just make every ending a good ending" shit

best selling game before Three Houses, cope

I like Lucario for the same reason I like Mewtwo, the Movies.

How could someone hate that cute face?

>Most recent game on a series getting more and more exposure as time goes on is the highest-selling.
Wow

But I like Isabelle...
Is the hate because of overexposure?

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Explain Echoes

>Game
>It was actually three games with their sales lumped together
Even then it wasn't actually that big of a leap from Awakening's sales anyway.

Made on the side by a B team, and barely advertised

I know nothing about Animal Crossing, but the impression Isabelle gives me is the same as the other characters named here, she's both very popular and they like to use her as a "face" of the series.

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Why does Nintendo like Isabelle so much more than Tom Nook or KK Slider? She's just a stupid mayor in the town hall or whatever. Even the Owl in the cafe is more likeable

Calling Rosalina "Nintendo's Lightning" was always stupid and wrong from the beginning.

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You can tell these fuckers were once children who legitmately liked karate dog during his inception. I bet they also like shonenshitter anime
I hated him for replacing mewtwo in brawl, I hate how he barely acts like a pokemon and like a stoic anime protag in a pokemon body. I hate that nintendo has been pushing this creature as one of the mascots for years when they're vastly superior fighting types

((((People))))

>FURRIES BAD

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Yep, I can't imagine anything more cucked than being a tripfag

t.furry

Isabelle's hate doesn't come from her own game.
She wasn't shilled at all in New Leaf.
The only people who hate her is outside the AC games where she's being shilled

>FURRIES BAD
i dont have any of those real life chad images saved so pretend i posted one

I don't get why Marie is on there. Most people I see hate her and she's never really treated like anything special at least anymore.

If that's the case then Lucario better move the fuck over
youtube.com/watch?v=qQvhMNU_NsY

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Furfag

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Charizard was always a big fan favourite who got a lot of attention from the beginning, second only to Pikachu.

Rosalina's the only princess to not get captured like a pussy

>Implying anybody hates the president

Rathalos is the lightning of MH.