Why yes, I prefer the Black Eagles route...

After the battle at gronder field.

You both keep giving reasons as to why she's a shitty individual. She obviously stuffers from major daddy issues and she's wasn't properly spanked as a child.

You're in luck, the game gives you an out.

Suffers*

Not to mention mommy issues the bishop.

Even Sothis agrees you should get back up. She said she's an ass for the way of doing it but Edelgard is right.

who cares. Game's shit, FE is casual weeb trash just like Persona. the game's were always just lesser Suikoden titles with shitty rock paper scissors strategy thrown in and less fleshed out cast and stories.

Even the Shining series is better than FE.

Literally nothing wrong with being selfish. The individual matters more than society. Fuck everyone who isn't me

>turn-based jrpgs
>"""""hard""""""

Nah, there's a mourning period after a person dies that you need to respect. It hadn't even been a week or so and she was telling you that shit. She could have been more considerate. Dimitri and Claude handled it better.

>shitty rock paper scissors strategy

He doesnt know they got rid of that for some reason.

>The route results in the least bloodshed

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> "its ok to take your time to mourn before moving on"
> "hey man, i'm here for you, y'know"
> "lmao faggot stop crying"

Guess who says what.

Then whats your preference user?

I would agree with you had you said the Shining series WAS better. Shining hasn't been good for ages. Wake me up when the bring back the old character artists from the Genesis days.

Reminder there are hints Edelgard won't even stop at Fodlan

Never listen to people who listen to dubstep.

Wait so you are telling me that they are actually 3 different stories? I always thought the same battles with the same enemy protagonists would be displayed no matter which house you took

I'm also at this point in the game. Why didn't the MC call her out for hanging out with red head bitch during the last month?

4
Also
youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

Wait the fag isn't talking about the Shining movie?

The church route is just a lazy version of another route.

She's like this because they already killed her entire family too.

As someone who finished all 4 routes please cite your source because this is news to me

She mentions the whole world in BL, she keeps warring in BL and GD even after capturing Rhea and I'm almost sure there was something about that foreign nation with the wyvern guy. Her conquest is literally unending.

I think he's talking about the epilogue. You know the cliff hanger where she says she'll take on the mole people next and then fuck off.

>Literally says that while it is sad, that you need to pick yourself back up. Even offers to join you if you want revenge.
>Wahhhhh, she said this, even though I didn't even read the full dialogue!
Imagine not having the attention span to read a few sentences.

The writing in this game was better then expected I just really hate how her route has the least chapters and gets beat out by the church route.

Imagine being a retarded Edelgard defender when she caused the death of the guy in the first place as well as trying to assassinate Dimitri and Claude.

I mean, all it would have taken is add a dubstep chapter or two instead of relegating it to a few lines. Ah well

>There are 4 routes
>The first half of the 4 routes are virtually the same(besides the change in houses characters)
>The second half of each route shares a lot of content with one or the other(besides the change in houses characters)

After fully completing the game, I believe this game really only had enough content for 2 routes if they wanted to avoid much overlap. Either way I'm glad they didn't do a version split like fates.

cope edeltards

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Edelgard retires with you m after defeating the slitherers. She doesn’t want world conquest or even to be Emperor

>imagine being a speedreader and skipping the part where she wasn't the one that gave the order and was used as the escape goat.

Not to mention she did want to kill Kronya after the assassination as the flame emperor.

>replying to Dimitritard posters
user, why are you doing this to yourself. You cannot have a conversation with fujoshit, they are deranged.

Kronya memeing Jeralt was completely offscript. Now even Thales expected her to do that

They did complain about her being annoying and shit.

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>kidnap a random girl
>spend a year remaking her body to be your own
>immediately go do your own thing instead of following orders
>get killed the next mission
Meanwhile Solon also immediately gives up his disguise after one experiment. Thales is like the only competent dubsteper

There's 4 routes, but in reality only two of those routes should have existed.
The dialogue you get in between chapters is different, but most of the maps pre time skip are identical and most of the maps post time skip are also identical. I think the idea is that the devs thought most people wouldn't do cross house shit so tht paralogues would be the main difference in each playthrough, but they fucked that up big time.

Yes, but only if you side with her, otherwise she never stops.

Fucking idiot, I'm playing the BE route. How am I Dimitri or Fujoshit lover? You're acting like a gamer and forgiving Edelgard for being a shitty person because you're attractive to her.

Dimitri also got Batman'd, but he still shows some empathy.

You say this like Edelgard didn't kill Dimitri's entire nation.

Based. But she does not in BE. She only attack two major cities in each.
Also it's the guys fault for getting roflstomped in their routes until Byleth arrives

It's easy for the other routes to have more chapters when they recycle so much.

Although on the the other hand there's no reason for Deagle brand Beagles to not just recycle some maps too since almost all cutscenes happen in nondescript outdoors areas or rooms in the monastery.

This. I agree with this.

In which route does Edelgard get dabbed on the hardest?

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This game is based for showing women can't be good Rulers

That's because the Church route is literally reusing assets from GD, so it makes sense it's longer since it required far less work

Edelgard leads to an era of prosperity and progress
If Femleth becomes Arch Bishop, same shit.
The only route where it goes wrong is Claude and that's solely because of otomefags who want a boy to save them. Nothing else

Edelgards retard ass can be summarized in one word.
>RECOUNQUERING
God this bitch is retarded.

Church route, because you take most BE members away from Edelgard's side and you get to kill her yourself while she's confessing her love to you.

>all these faggots crying about my wife and the empire's actions
I'm just glad I can play as the conqueror and aggressor for once in an FE game with my dearest Empress Edelgard von Hresvelg and have sex with her in private moments.

Again, this game is based for showing women can't be good rulers.

Did you like, pay attention to the story at all.

ToD was Arundel’s doing, not Edelgard. The worst things Edelgard does is hire the bandits at the beginning of the game to try to snuff the other two lords out early and incite Lonato’s rebellion which was already in the works

>Dude I like her cause I'm a virigin who's attractive to her

Low IQ Cunnybrain

Meanwhile Bernie forces herself to leave the room to get flowers for the grave, and then Edelgard uses Bernie as a suicide bomber.

Those bandits weren't even meant to kill the other dudes, just to chase off the tentative new teacher so Jeritza could be her sensei.

Was she actually behind the western church attack or she just lend them the death knight just like she does later to her uncle?

I think he means how Edelgard and her comically evil generals fuck up Faerghus super hard in Blue Lions.

Do you think Hubert ever gets tired of defending his lady on a Mongolian puppetry discussion board?

She coerced them into attacking so she's at the very least partially responsible.

>Being such a beta orbiter you defend a woman's awful and terrible decisions and philosophy.

Hubert is based.

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Because Dimitri is still pretending to be a good boy at that point in the story.

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And then one of them gets captures and he cries like a bitch and call Dimitri evil for killing people.

>love
>doesn't have your kids
Heh

He literally asks you to go on a murder spree with him in order to find the people who did it. I don't really count that as acting like a good boy.

Ah, I see you played dubbed.

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It’s actually embarrassing how poorly utilized Kronya and even Solon were

And Dimitri literally picked the actually crazy genocidal dragon over humanity in BE route. Each of the house leaders tends to do stupid shit when Byleth isn't around to keep their respective tardness in check.

>being attracted to someone like Edelgard and conquering clay with her means you're a virgin
Real life history are full of ruthless conquerors, deal with it faggot.

I fucking love whenever an Empire-aligned character does that, it's hilarious. There's Edelgard's
>wow, poor Lonato, he was a good man sensei, look at what the Church did to him
>FOOL, WHY WAS LONATO SO USELESS, HE SHOULD HAVE MADE HIS WORTHLESS LIFE MORE USEFUL BEFORE DYING, I WENT THROUGH ALL THAT EFFORT TO HAVE HIM ATTACK THE CHURCH

And then Randolph's
>woohoo time to kill some Faerghus scum, man do I love war
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL ME, I'M THE GOOD GUY

Saving them for the DLC route where you side with them.

Edel does show remorse tho. It's just that her way to make up for it is by doubling down on her goal to make sure people didn't die for no reason, which is why she unsurprisingly ends up so nasty in every other route

>And Dimitri literally picked the actually crazy genocidal dragon over humanity in BE route
You mean the route where Edelgard starts killing the dragon's followers, triggers her PTSD, and declares that Fodlan is hers?

>Edeltard
>Edeltranny
>Hitler
>waifu
>based Dimitri
>bingo chart

There, just spared everybody the 400+ shitposts that fill every 3H topic.

>Rhea is a genocidal dragon.
I don't think you know what that word means at all.

He still thinks he's above Dimitri in either version. Go home Hubert, the lady needs her footstool.

Your OP pic related doesn’t imply you are a brain-chad. It implies that you are literally the main villain that would be happy that the church would be destroyed anyway. Fittingly enough one should see how Thrace (in disguise) in BL dies without regrets, since he believed Edelgard will carry out his will still.

AYO
*burns down village*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*sends bandits to kidnap students*
YOU BE FINNNA SAYIN
*burns down church*
YOU IMPLYIN
*invades Liecester and Fearghus*
YOU FINNA MEAN THAT
*kills indiscriminately*
THAT THE CRESTS ARE TO BLAME
*blames others for her problems*

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>Killing the dragons followers

What? Edelgard herself says she has no issues with the followers of the church themselves, just Rhea, the church itself and those who would protect the status quo it upholds

CHURCH RULE HUMANS BAD
EDEL RULE HUMANS GOOD
EDEL TRAMPLE FLAG AND FORCE YOU TO SERVE HER COUNTRY GOOD
PLS BURN MY COUNTRY'S FLAG EL-CHAN

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>I'm gonna swing my sword at Rhea, and if you get in the way, it's your fault
That's fucking Simpsons logic.

Doesn't change the fact the Rhea had become an actual crazy and genocidal dragon in the BE route. You can blame Edelgard for forcing her to go full Seiros, but she did go full Seiros and Dimitri chose to side with her over humanity. Like, holy shit Dimitri.

Fucking Hubert orbiting in the background.

Hubert rubbing his hands thinking about the shekels and the killings

>The route results in the least bloodshed
I mean, it does.
Byleth also becomes a human again instead of an immortal ARCHBISHOP OF HOLY FARTS and gets rid of that ugly ass green hair.

>Using edelgards retard route as justification for "this character is evil"
Rhea is evil in one route of four. Edelgard is evil in all four routes. BUT CLEARLY RHEA IS THE PROBLEM.
Literally kill yourself.

Yes Dimitri, side with the madwoman that wants to conquer your country instead.

>genocidal dragon
>spent 1000 years making sure humanity doesn't kill itself again, albeit by drastic measures
How come when Rhea does something for the "greater good" it's bad but when El does it it's "good"?

I have a better idea.
>Download DLC that allows Monica to be recruited to the Black Eagles.
>”Oh don’t worry Professor, I’ll stay out of your way. You don’t have to worry about me.”
>Heart Rate Dialogue Box that warns your choice will effect the story line
>[x]No, as your Professor, you are going to participate in class regardless.
>”W-what? But Professor!”
>Edelgard smirks with a “I guess it can’t be helped” look as you drag Monica away to get her caught up on her classes and she is now a playable unit.
>It’s humiliating for her, but as her supports build build, you accidentally reverse corrupt her over the course of the story.
>In the end she can’t bring herself to kill your father (Thrace still kills him thought), but both Kronya and Edelgard are now able to offer proof what the Agarthans have been up to along to Dimitri and Claude which leads to the golden ending where you have to fight both a rampaging Immaculate one and Nemesis in a three front free for all.
How’s my route fanfic guys?

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user, that's the point. The post I had replied to had said that Edelgard and her generals were acting like super villains in the BL route and my post was to show houses tend to act more extreme when it's not their route in general. Unless you're saying Dimitri was perfectly right in siding with Seiros over humanity in the BE route or something, then you're arguing over something that's not really an argument.

>greater good

Rhea herself admits what she did was bad m8. She isn’t outright malevolent but she’s far from innocent.

I don’t think anyone is seriously argument Edelgard isn’t the most morally questionable lord either. It’s really an argument of is she an Anti-Villain or just a villain outright, which I think is the former since she’s far from the likes of Validar or Garon

i like it but it doesn't mention any lesbian endings

Rhea becomes irrelevant in BL for the sake of the story centering on Edel/Dimitri, and in GD she just becomes a fuckhuge exposition dump for Claude who still ultimately wants her out of the way for his own goals

People always point to Claude’s route as evidence that Eldegard’s end goal could’ve been achieved without the violence but they seem to completely ignore that Claude’s plan wouldn’t have gone anywhere if it wasn’t for the war.
In fact any actual change in any of the routes wouldn’t have come about if it wasn’t for Eldegard starting the war.

Read carefully user. I'm not criticizing Rhea in general here, I am specifically criticizing Dimitri in the BE route where there's no ambiguity on Rhea going insane and Dimitri sided with her.

But Rhea doing some bad stuff doesn't magically excuse everything Edelgard does. Especially when even when she captures Rhea in certain routes, she will still conquer all of Fodlan and try to subjugate them to surrender to the Adrestian Empire too.

Would you say the story is just as bad as Fates or even more stupid? Or just bad overall?

Nowhere near as bad as Fates

I'm so glad I recruited Bernie to Blue Lions, then.

She isn't even genocidal though, she spent a thousand years making sure humans don't nuke everything. And it's funny how her burning down of Fhirdiad is used against her when Edelgard subjects the people of Fhirdiad to five years of hell in Dimitri's route.

Edelgard with an access to sensei's dick is an anti-villain.
Edelgard without an access to sensei's dick is a villain. Easy.

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Unironically the best narrative this franchise has had. Only FE4 comes close.

Agarthans are survivors of a long lost almost instinct civilization, her people can’t afford such vices. Kronya is straight as an arrow, and can only S-rank Male Byleth, but she can still A+ female Byleth for platonic loyalty.

Claude's plan relied on Byleth using his connections to the Church, relied on having access to Almyra and its army at any given moment, relied on Byleth implementing his plans and winning his battles so he doesn't run away to Almyra, and relied on Hubert telling them where the secret base is. Claude's route required on so many deus ex machina, it's not even funny.

And thats a good thing

That's because Rhea for all intents and purposes is literally Edelgard but as a dragon and with a lot more years to chill out

This.
Seriously Claude being a schemer and master tactician is just an informed trait it’s not even funny. Everything just falls into his lap.

This should be the long and short of it but Dimitrifags are as obsessed with her as their ebin punishes leader so we’ll be arguing this until the next FE game

Eh I have to pick black eagles to get the best ending, no thanks.

That's not true at all.
Assuming Edelgard wasn't an absolute retard, Claude, Dimitri, and Edelgard were all at the very least cordial with one another.
Edelgard wants what Claude wants, and they could have mulled it over once they were both the respective leaders of their factions.
Stop trying to defend edelgards retard actions.

The writing is pretty good this time around even on Edel's route (which is amazing considering how compressed it is).

user, stop. It is an undeniable fact that Rhea had snapped on BE route and that she is willing to kill everyone for her goals. I am not criticizing Rhea in general but specifically in the BE route, she did turn into an insane genocidal dragon, and yes, you can blame Edelgard for it, but it doesn't change the fact that Rhea went full Seiros and that Dimitri chose to side with her, which lead to the war between the two nations.

I can imagine it now.
>Walhart on the battle field being all muh true conqueror...
>”Lady Edelgard allow the Professor to give you a... head pat.”
>Walhart turns to Hurbert, “Why?”
>”You’re not yourself with those head pats.”
>Byleth comes over and heads pats him.
>”Better?”
>Walhart now Edelgard, “This is agreeable.”

Literally every single leader, wanted the abolishment of the Crest system as we know it and social reform, even rhea. The only thing the war achieved was getting the mole jobbers killed, which wouldnt've been possible in the original plan, doesn't even always happen and resolves itself by pure chance in all routes.

Speaking of Dimitri, is it ever explained somewhere why he still has 2 eyes in BE?

Sothis bitches about everything. Literally no fun allowed

>”Flayn couldn’t have left the monastery!”
>every fucken one has teleport powers

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Reminder that this is the brainlet filter scene.

Any idiots who think Dimitri did nothing wrong are deluded morons who don't understand what "continue to reconquer" referred to.

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Kek

You would think so but Claude had also wanted to assassinate Rhea, meaning he also believed in the lies about her. Without the church backing them up, they would have never found out the real history of the world.

whats wrong with the 3 groups just living in segregated harmony?

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How else are you going to pull off a Fates tier diplomacy like Corrin?

Nuh uh he fired an arrow into the sky and it dropped right on Nemesis exactly as keikaku'd

>Dude they could have just talked it out.

Not only would this be retarded from a narrative perspective, do know how hard it is the root religion out of a society it’s been ingrained upon for 1000 years? People have fought wars IRL for far less than that.

Like anons have said, Claude wouldn’t have even been able to achieve his goals without Edelgard’s war being a catalyst to change. The story straight up does not work without her pulling the trigger, for better or worse.

She doesn’t even really have a choice in the matter considering the slitherers

Rhea retreating to Faerghus gave him too much clout to be deposed by a coup from Cornelia, so he doesn’t have to suffer for 5 years on the run from his own kingdom.

He still clearly hates Edelgard but isn’t a mentally ill lunatic

Because sooner or later the Slitherers would have popped shit off anyway, even if they had to just depose a disobedient Edelgard since they have shadow control of the Empire as it is.

Plus it’s make for a really fucking boring narrative

They all died like true knights SHUT UP

Edelgard didn't relied on the Slitherer's help on her route so they didn't need to implement the plan where Cornelia overthrew Dimitri and took over half the kingdom. Less tragedy means Dimitri doesn't go full The Boar and less risks taken.

In al fairness the way the scene was handled in english was very weird because in the original Edelgard pretty much says "why on earth you keep fighting for a lost cause"

All three leaders wanted the exact same thing.
The religion of Seiros is not the religion of the entire world.
Rhea doesn't care about the religion, she cares about getting her mom back.

Who the fuck was that random mage on the BL final map that makes everyone flee when he dies?

Myson, duh

Slitherers were doing a rather good job of infiltrating the three houses. If it wasn't Edelgard, they might have even used Dimitri as their puppet to start a war to kill Seiros.

Probably an Agarthan (those that slither in the dark).

>Not only would this be retarded from a narrative perspective, do know how hard it is the root religion out of a society it’s been ingrained upon for 1000 years? People have fought wars IRL for far less than that.
This is my problem with all the other endings. Byleth takes control of the church and everything magically works out. Followers immediately change their ways and the church completely reforms from a religion that lasted a thousand years within a short amount of time.

You forgot to mention that in the 3/4 routes, except hers of course, that monks and other religious people in the Empire were either forced to flee or face death in the Empire, despite the fact that Edel claims she's a religiously tolerant person. She's not, of course. And her true fedora-tipping ways spills out in the GD, BL and Church route.

Could it be because Byleth himself is a god?
Could it be because of Rhea's blessing for it because all Rhea ever wanted was her mom back?

Bernie's family used to be in charge of religeous affairs, but the empire removed religion from their country in bernie's life time. It wouldn't take that long at all.

I mean Byleth is the actual deity of that world at that point, I imagine their word carries a ton of weight.

>Followers immediately change their ways and the church completely reforms from a religion that lasted a thousand years within a short amount of time.
Reformations are pretty easy when your Pope makes those changes directly, it’s not like Byleth needs to declare a council among other bishops when they are literally God too.

In all fairness most of the church is pretty chill overall, it's just that as long Rhea's the one in control they're dommed to stagnation

Gee user I wonder why Edel goes of the deep end without Byleth’s guidance. Definitely not a trait that’s shared with the other 2 lords or anything.

You’ve missed the entire point of the narrative

Rhea was willing to enforce a thousand years of crest hierarchy status quo for the chance to get her mommy back. If it wasn't for pure dumb luck of Byleth getting trapped in the shadow realm and forced to merge with Sothis, Rhea would have continued for another thousand years of enforced crest status quo. People keep forgetting that the Church has a standing army that rivals any of the other three nations in Fodlan. She would have fought tooth and nail to get her mommy back.

Except for the part where Rhea already realizes that Sothis is inside of Byleth.

>Rhea's the one in control they're dommed to stagnation
Except she doesn’t doom them? The countries outside Fódlan seem pretty equal if not inferior in terms of cultural and technological level. Heck Rhea employs a professor who is trying to reverse engineer Crests, and commerce is allowed outside and inside Fódlan since we have imports from the other continents and people like Shamir, Cyril, Claude and Petra around.

This. Save for Claude, without Byleth the other lord's negative traits are cranked up to eleven to the point they eventually die without having accomplished anything in the long run

Claude doesn't though?

How monkaS would it be if Nemesis MOVES in the final map on lunatic?

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Claude says hi, retard.

Consume your own hands.

>Have to pick black Eagles as a THIRD BRANCH
Hell no.

Byleth has the crest stone inside but not yet the true reincarnation of Sothis. The bright green hair is the sign that it finally worked. Remember, she had 12 other times where it ended up as failures so if Byleth never shown any other signs of becoming Sothis, Rhea might have taken more extreme measures to make it happen.

He just turns into a beta bitch who can’t even keep his kingdom in line and fucks off back to Almyra. Arguably it’s even more pathetic thinking about it than what’s happens to El and Dimitri

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With her respect and treatment of Byleth’s mother it seems plausible that Rhea would have just waited until Byleth died of old age then take the crest stone back for attempt number 13.

This, at least dimitri goes out like a man

Edelgard is indirectly responsible for the entire central conflict

>There's one lord that is a self-admitted globalist shill that wants to change the ethnic demographic, culture and political system of Fodlan, because he got bullied in his childhood due to his mixed heritage
>Another that is literally insane violent madman and claims he hears voices in his head to kill everyone that opposes his rule
>Edelgard manages to be more annoying and evil than that two choices above somehow, by going full Hitler

Edeltard cope

t. Rhea

Eh, BL route, pre fixed Dimitri, is the closest we get to how the war would have played out without Byleth around and Edelgard was winning the war hard. She would have won but the reforms later would have been an inevitable failure since she's way too unempathic to remember why she wanted reforms in the first place.

Go play the other routes.

Ah yes, Rhea should have just told those super powered crest bearers that they came from some pillaging bandits who genocided her race. That would have turned out great.

>go play the route in which BE Edelgard's ideals differ from non-BE Edelgard's

Play Golden Deer. It gives you even more reasons to hate Rhea while also make everyone look like an idiot

>kill everyone that opposes his rule

he doesn't want to rule. people have to convince him to come back

That’s not the Agarthians m8

They're the same ideals. It's just that in every other route nothing is sacred to Edelgard anymore after the timeskip

Honestly, we don't know. No one had lived as long as Byleth did with the crest stone, and for some reason, you lose support points with Sothis if you ever pick dialogue choicss that let's Rhea know the fusion is a success. Rhea wasn't just going to go back to normal homunculus after getting so close to getting her mommy back.

GD just ups the tragedy level of the entire ordeal up to 11. The only way you could possibly make a Golden route for this game is if somehow the revelations made in that chapter are made to Edelgard pre timeskip, I dunno how that’d be even remotely possible though since there’s no hard evidence

>phoneposter
>monkaS
hmm.

>dimitri goes out like a man
not in BE. He goes out like the insane deluded asshole he is, setting his country on fire all over his petty revenge on Edelgard. Unwilling to surrender even after receiving a nuke and fighting a lost war. Uncaring about the well-being of the kingdom's citizens, just wishing for more bloodshed

Yeah it is framed like she isn't responsible, but she actually was. She actually killed his adoptive family indirectly, while claiming she had nothing to do with it.

>This Dragon freely gives her blood to almost all her non-crest bearing Knights, making them all major crest bearers of Seiros
>All that can live past 100 years minimum
>Able to keep this a secret from the school faculty, and the clergy.
How does she do it bros? More importantly is this some way to surround herself with a pseudo family by making so many blood pacts?

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Whatever your opinions on who's good or bad or whatever it's kind of cool to see so much discussion about the actual story of a Fire Emblem game. Sometimes there's more threads like these than the waifufag threads, and that's saying something for this series.

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Breh Edelgard is what, 9 when she parts way from Dimitri and 13 when ToD and is effectively powerless in the face of TWSITD until she aseconds to the imperial throne. In what fucking line of logic did you somehow manage to come to the idea she was tangently responsible for the tragedy of duscur

In the only route where she's sane, she doesn't have a problem with the goddess or the faith, only the church that has corrupted the land, and created a bunch of weak people who think praying will make the goddess solve their problems instead of taking action themselves (ie. Marianne)

That's her whole support conversation with Manuela. Because she only prays as emotional support, not to get her problems fixed

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>for some reason, you lose support points with Sothis if you ever pick dialogue choicss that let's Rhea know the fusion is a success
Where is that found? I never noticed that.

Wow it's almost like Edelgard was evil and he wanted to stop her even at the cost of his life. And when did he set his country on fire retard?

You REALLY have to wonder how many Edeltards would still be defending her if she was a man.

No it's the only route she doesn't show it. Her motives are the same. Dorothea hints she was slipping into tyranny before you returned.

Siding with Rhea leads to him getting used as a useful pawn, and in turn she pays him back by razing the capital with the people still inside.

Brilliant move Dimitri

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Imagine she unironically looked like this. Just think about it for a second, exact same motives etc, exact same fuck the church. Just realize how stupid it actually is edeltards.

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>setting his country on fire all over his petty revenge on Edelgard.

Pretty sure it's Rhea the one who sets everything on fire because fuck you Edelgard

>9 year old girl is guilty for indirectly killing a bunch of people for reasons she had no control over nor even asked to happen

So he didn't, thanks dumbfuck.

Christ are you this much of a brainlet?
Claude fought the needed battles, then accepted defeat when he lost. He did it in order to ensure the Alliance's safety and not devastate the country with more war and bloodshed.
Dimitri didn't. Even after losing the fortress city and getting it nuked, he didn't surrender. It was a war he had already lost, but he kept fighting all because of his own selfish pride, with complete disregard about his kingdom's safety.

Imagine that Japan kept fighting the war even after the nukes, all because the emperor had his own personal pride. That's BE Dimitri.

I think you mean less, far far less.

>He goes out like the insane deluded asshole he is, setting his country on fire
>she pays him back by razing the capital
So who did it? You're saying two things here you fucking retard. Next you're going to be telling us 'ThE cReStS aRe To BlAmE'

Setting his country on fire is a manner of speech, I'm not referring to the literal setting on fire of the capital.

>9 year old girl is guilty for indirectly killing a bunch of people for reasons she had no control over nor even asked to happen
this but unironically. she is the only heir that survived for a reason. she claims innocence in everything from jeralt to slitherers while allying with the slitherers and oppressing everyone. I don't know what happened but she's not as innocent as she claims.

Alright so you’re actually trolling got it.

Guess her entire C+ support flew over your head, or more likely you didn’t even play it because most of the people bitching about Edelgard haven’t played all the routes

Edelgard literally lies about who dropped the nukes and says it was the church to further her goals, you're fucking stupid. Did you even play the game?
>he's bad because he didn't surrender though
Unironically kill yourself, buy some bleach and drink it dumb fucking idiot.

>hurrrr Japan should have kept warmonging because surrendering is for faggots! fuck the people and fuck the country, don't give up!
This is how retarded you sound, Dimitrifag.
Good leaders know when to surrender.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does she not have any idea that the Slithers are the ones who did the experiments on her let alone being in control of the Empire from behind the scenes? Surely if she knew she'd know they are spouting nonsense at her.

no, more
you underestimate how much nu-Yea Forums loves their little hitlers

>angry overcompensating manlet tyrant
Basically her with a penis.

>he doesn't deploy teachers and church members only for the Church route

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>because most of the people bitching about Edelgard haven’t played all the routes
except it's the opposite retard, she's worst of all in her own route where you can see she has no excuses and is blatantly in the wrong. And yes, she (may be) responsible for it. It's a gray area they don't expand on but she's the only one of her siblings who survived, and on good relations with her supposed abusers, so speculate on it. Or don't since you can't think.

Her bio does mention she hates losing control after all. I recall other supports where people complain to her how she's acting like an overprotective mom who's doing the best for them

imo she would likely get even more fangirls

sounds pretty based, honestly

Go step into the generaal for one second and see how many Edeltard apologists want to fuck her.

i like that, that's pretty good

Good leaders don't randomly invade nations, ally with murderers and destroy the entire continents culture. Don't even argue for your own good, you're an idiot.

I wanted to do something like this, but My church route is going to be my max level power run where I min/max as much ass possible and use only the best characters.
So insetad, for my BE playthrough I'm going to use ONLY characters who hate crests.

Yes Edelgard should definitely tell her army as a whole that has slitherer implants reporting back to Thales who the real culprit was and not only shatter army morale but also lay the groundwork for her to get whacked by the the second they leave the Monastery .

Edelgard does a lot of bad shit but that part honestly wasn’t that surprising to me. Not surprised a brainlet wouldn’t catch on to that though

i'm so close i just need one more, come on people!

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jesus christ, play BE, or replay it again without speedreading. You're only looking like a giant retard

>Yes Edelgard should definitely tell her army as a whole that has slitherer implants reporting back to Thales who the real culprit was and not only shatter army morale but also lay the groundwork for her to get whacked by the the second they leave the Monastery .
tyrant apologist, she didn't need to literally lie and blame the enemy for her own actions. you sound like a great person to meet in real life.

Yea Forums would be sucking him off and called him based let’s not kid ourselves. You see how this board treats Senator Armstrong?

her talk with dimitri in BL's route definitely gave off Armstrong vibes, which i love Armstrong as a villain but i'd never side with him.

She should have at least told her students since they're the ones most dedicated for fighting for her cause.

she HAD to lie to keep the slithers on her good side, you fucking retard. Did you even do Hubert's paralogue? Did you skipped over the fact he said he needed them close so they could exterminate them once the war was over?
Slithers were literally being used by Edelgard all the way through.

>play BE
Why the fuck do I need to play BE for shit that happens on other routes? And I played it. You're the one who sounds like you didn't even play anything but her path. Kind of like Edeltard, accusing people of what she does herself. You deserve your shitty tyrant waifu and you're not convincing anyone. Kys thanks.

Dimitrifags are as obsessed with Edelgard as he is and it’s the funniest shit imaginable. IS really outdid themselves with 3H

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Manuela and Hanneman defaults to the Empire if you don't recruit them, though. Doesn't make sense for them to go Church route.

That I won’t disagree with, but her paranoia of information leaking is justified 100%

>Slithers were literally being used by Edelgard all the way through.
Yeah, they were REALLY close, almost like they are allies and she is a reluctant accomplice in every single thing they did. Stay stupid.

THERE IT IS, OBSESSED!

BINGO BINGO BINGO!

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autism

kek

But they both abandoned the Empire to become teachers. Hanneman even says in other routes he never wants to set foot in Enbarr again. If anything, it doesn't make sense for them to go back.

aaaand
BINGO

>she claims innocence in everything from jeralt to slitherers while allying with the slitherers and oppressing everyone

She literally mentions many times pre-timeskip she's guilty of awful stuff and the only way she feels she can be redeemed is by winning the war.

She's aware but since she needs their support she needs to keep appereances and pretend everything's chill with them. The only time where she explicitly expresses their hate towards them is in BE when Kronya kills dad.

It goes both ways actually. She's using them as much they're using her for their evil shenanigans. Ever wondered why the Death Knight shows up in Chapter 8?

Imagine having autism

Makes me sad we can’t have Gilbert (a literal holy knight of Seiros) recruitable for the Church route, but I understand his reasoning. That being said, I make everybody either a bishop or a Falcon/Holy/Great/Bow Knight for maximum Deus Vult.

but i DO have autism, are you going to call me obese next?

>Why the fuck do I need to play BE for shit that happens on other routes?
not that guy but you're a fucking idiot
the situation changes in other routes

He deserves better.

Hanneman and Manuela don't actually care for Rhea or the Church of Seiros.

Manuela only believes in the goddess, not Seiros, and Hanneman is a man of science. Why would he stay at a devastated monastery instead of going back to the country in control where he can continue his research?

The time skip setup dramatically changes in CF compared to other routes you fuckmuppet

Yeah, because that totally explains why she just went and killed Cornelia, amirite?

>kills Cornelia
>gets nuked and blames it on the church like a good little cuck
Imagine actually siding with her instead of picking Deer/Church and genociding the molepeople immediately after lopping off Edgelord's head

She's bad in all routes user.

Alright, pitch me your idea for a "golden route" where all 3 leaders live.

Hard Mode: they don't team up until after the time skip and still fight.
Lunatic Mode: they still don't fully like each other by the end.

>he sides with the church
Do ya LIKE being diddled by old man priests ya cucks?

>not wanting to be diddled by Seteth

She barely lifts a finger against them. In GD it's actually Hubert that sends the letter revealing the Slitherers to you. The shadow war fought after the end of the game in her path is exactly that, an indirect war against them. Just play the fucking game again since you obviously only played her path and look at all the shit she does in the monastery with them, she is totally buddy with them regardless of what she does in the endgame text.

You mean the one explicit act of rebellion she does in her route which is immediately followed by her nearly getting nuked and lying about who nuked her to not piss them off?

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Anyone else noticed character voices have a bit of echo when fighting indoors? Thought that was kind of a neat detail.

Claude and Dimitri actually team up.
Edelgard is captured and not killed and she's taught the real history of Fodlan.
She stays in a cuckshed until the route is over and slithers are dealt with, then she's returned to her country, the church still intact, but without Rhea in charge.

Fantastic argument, well done

i'd be fine with this.

No need to project your Sunday church molestings user

You can't just let Edelgard go like that. The only role she'd ever be happy as is Emperor or Blyat's personal fucktoy

I'm actually a bit sad they didn't. I thought Grondor Part 2 in BL was going to end with them teaming up.

So let her be emperor of her shit empire, with the church ok and no slithers, there's no way in hell she can break the peace treaty again.

There is no saving Edel honestly, she says in BL outright she wants to rule the world and she already has Rhea in other routes while she continues fighting. It's only BE that she is even slightly gray instead of pitch black evil.

>Claude fought the needed battles, then accepted defeat when he lost. He did it in order to ensure the Alliance's safety and not devastate the country with more war and bloodshed. Dimitri didn't.
Neither did Edelgard? She could've made peace in BL but wants to rule the world. Play the other paths BE tard.

Yeah pretty cool but during support scenes and cutscenes in general they completely fucked up the scaling. Some beds, furniture, and chairs look like they're for giants or the cast is tiny as fuck.

i like this

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Why are you bringing up other routes when we're talking about BE Dimitri?

>muh whataboutism

>let her be emperor of her shit empire
asking for trouble, just give it to Ferdinand and make her a hostage of the church at the monastery or some shit. Sensei's dick would keep her sedate and happy

Disagree. Edel with the professor by her side learning the revelations of Fodlan’s history made in GD would probably change course, but that’s be difficult to pull off considering there’s not all that much hard evidence and you dhave to gonoff Rhea’s word, which fat fucking chance she’d believe her based on that alone

Because a route of those two teaming up would be so incredibly based there would be no point to the other routes, at all.
>Dimitri wages war against Edelgard while Claude kills molepeople
Too good for this world.

>Play the other routes where this character is completely different without the influence of Byleth!

Who’s the retard again? Did you seriously not catch on to how the narrative of this game revolves around the impact Byleth has on the lords and dealing with the consequences of not picking the other two?

>b-but why is she so mean?
What's up with anti-BE cunts being the absolutely most insufferable moralfags

I wasn't talking about BE, not every argument needs to be about your one noncanon shortened no cutscene etc path, just because you haven't played anything else.

Dedue is the best boy because he's anti-drugs.

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I don't give a shit about her telling you to pick yourself up. It's that she said that shit while she knows that she was complicit in your dad's death in the first place that pissed me off.

>Who’s the retard again?
You for not realizing her personality is basically the same in every path. She is deceptive from chapter 1.

>non-canon
>most peaceful route in the end
>only route where Byleth becomes human again
>only route where Rhea's slayed
cope. It's the most canon route until the actual canon DLC route comes out.

You're a total moron and most of what you posted isn't even true.

>>only route where Byleth becomes human again
>happens in every route (Sothis says so)
>>only route where Rhea's slayed
>happens in almost every route
You should actually play the game.

He is a winner, that's why

This is my first playthrough you fucking idiot and I chose Black eagle. I have been enjoying it and her till the moment she opened her fat mouth about my father's death. The other two house leaders correctly exemplify how you handle the passing of an important figure in somebody's life. There is a morning period and she should have respected it and shown more remorse.

if you really want "mean", if a bitch would have said that to my face after my father died I would have decked her in the face and probably knocked her out

This is your brain on Edeltard, see a mental health clinic.

>Must you reconquer?
Is a top five worst line in fire emblem history, the rest all come from Fates

>>happens in every route (Sothis says so)
No? You only get rid of the crest stone. But you're still an immortal archbishop of fuckfaggotry or whatever.
In BE endings, Byleth goes off to live a peaceful human life with their spouse.

Imagine actually being delusional enough to think any of the routes are more canon than the others based on your own personal preference

If you think that's bad wait until what she does later.

Edelgard thinks sothis is a false goddess even on BE

>No? You only get rid of the crest stone. But you're still an immortal archbishop of fuckfaggotry or whatever.
OH GOD THE HORROR OH GOD THANKS EDELGARD FOR REMOVING ME FROM MY GODLIKE POWERS

Get over it, faggot. Crying won't bring dad back

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BE has a whole fucking shadow war after it. It's literally the least peaceful route of all... what the fuck am I even reading?

>How about a little logic instead?
Fucking shithead

>hubert in relation to edelgard

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They went and dealt with the slithers off-screen.

>DUDE BUT THAT SURELY WAS A HUGE AND BLOODY WAR
Nice fanfiction.

>most peaceful route in the end
Empire is the aggressor and is literally conquering all of Fódlan, while the other three routes you are defending homelands and restoring the peace.
>only route where Byleth becomes human again
That is the one thing you have it true.
>only route where Rhea's slayed
Rhea dies in GD (discusses in Catherine’s S-rank) and the Church route (if you don’t S-rank Rhea) too.

The only route where she stays alive 100% no matter what is BL, but that is entirely offscreen with no closure about her.

So are the other two lords. Dimitri is a crazed murderer putting on the mask of well adjustedness and Claude is an atheist Almyran Trojan horse who’s naïveté would put Fodlan in serious jeopardy.

Only by siding with them do you get the opportunity to truly fix their flaws, while having to watch it consume them on other routes. That’s the entire point of having to make a decision between the three. It’s outright false to say she’s virtually the same in every route

>but it wasn't
Prove it then, her route is so well written the actual villains are dealt with offscreen.

>Hanneman and Manuela don't actually care for Rhea or the Church of Seiros.
this is the case for like the entire cast, but they don’t randomly join the invading forces

I don’t know how anyone can see the empire using crest beasts and think yes I want to join these guys

>non-canon

You don't need a brain to notice that despite being rushed they had a lot planned for that one. Heck, if you think about it stuff like the temporary fort for ch 12 only exist for flavor reasons since in the battle preparations screen you can already do the same stuff.

>most peaceful route in the end

Most of Faerghus's relevant places are literally in shambles and Cornelia is the only shadestepper you fight in the timeskip

>only route where Byleth becomes human again

No idea if that's a good or a bad thing honestly

>only route where Rhea's slayed

Doesn't she die in Golden Deer tho?

>muh logic
Honestly the whole idea of "logical" characters that don't rely on "emotion" is retarded, since feeling something in response to an event is exactly what helps you decide what to do.

Protip, you become something akin to manakete, not immortal and fully able to die.
And canonically have a normal, peaceful life with whoever they marry.

Is she even wrong in that regard? Maybe not literally as Sothis does exists, but she’s fucking dead and the people’s prayers to her effectively accomplish nothing.

The burden of proof is on you, retard. You're arguing against what the game stated.
The game said "and then they fought against the slithers and won"
End of story.

I didn't say it was a bloody war I just said you're retarded if you think her end is more peaceful than the others.

You keep the Crest Stone implanted in your heart on all routes except the BE. Sothis’ S-rank reveals you still have it and it’s little more than decoration now

She lives but is effectively neutered power wise and is irrelevant like in BL

>have a normal, peaceful life with whoever they marry.
Until you outlive them unless you marry green cunny.

Because unlike what the BEfags try to peddle Rhea cares fuck all about what you believe she only wants for the continent to be be peaceful that's the whole big lie behind the religion. Personally she has plenty to hate humans for tho especially ones that collaborate with the dubcult.

She existed and people like praying to her, there's nothing wrong with it and she was as much of a goddess as it gets in the setting.
Who cares what people like praying to?

>dunno how that’d be even remotely possible though since there’s no hard evidence
Sothis recovers her memory/body and solves everything leaving the slither gang as the big boss enemies with icbms and Nemesis against the whole continent

This isn't wrong but Edelgard's flaws are like a burning dumpster fire house in comparison to the others flaws being the equivalent of having holes in your ceiling.

>Sothis is dead.
Like Naga and all other Divine Dragons that ascended as spirits and/or gods?

Damn, Edeltards going all out to defend their tyrant. I haven't seen the bingo chart filled out that much before.

You know what's funny?
Edeltards calling her morally gray while she's straight up evil.

>Most of Faerghus's relevant places are literally in shambles and Cornelia is the only shadestepper you fight in the timeskip
Faerghus isn't nearly left as fucked in BE as it was fucked in other routes.
Only reason why the kingdom didn't become a total wasteland was because Dimitri was slayed before he could further sink it deeper into war.

Imagine telling Christians in real life that god is fake even if there was actual physical proof he created the world and Christ is in fact his son.

To be fair, it's basically one guy sperging out, we had nice threads today.

>Edelgard thinks sothis is a false goddess even on BE
Post proof. Nowhere in BE did Edelgard claim she doesn't believe in the goddess, only in the 3 non-canon routes where she acts like a cartoon villain despite BE existing where she acts like her actual self.

>she’s fucking dead
She never was truly dead she literally says in her S support that she returned from the place she went to after the merger and returned from it on a whim to see Byleth and say hi. She's obviously a god and what was killed was her physical body while her true power can come and go as she likes.

Does anyone else feel like BL was the route with the most effort put into it?

>trying to blame dimitri for faerghus getting brutally oppressed by the empire
He was a murderhobo completely by himself

Oh my god. Reminder this is what you are arguing with when you argue with Edeltards.

who's talking about BL Dimitri?

at this point i feel like "arguing over canon and non canon routes" should be on the bingo.

She calls her a false goddess in every route.

She's pretty much what Tiki becomes.

It’s the most standard FE plot of the 4 routes, but even it has some unfinished qualities with some of the hidden dialogue that’s been found.

I really would have taken a 4 or so month delay to have seen that and CF fleshed out

>Rhea kicks up a bunch of dust
>Edelgard and Hubert screaming "AAAAAHHH PROFESSOR NO GET DOWN"
>suddenly five years later
BE is a really funny route.

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Because it’s your standard regular FE game minus the dragon being the final boss.

Why in the everloving fuck would BE of all things be the one and only canon path you fucking dipshit?

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t. Dimitrash
go back to your kindergarden-tier morality protagonist

So no proof?
There's already proof right here that BE Edelgard isn't against faith.

Stuff is always cut and not everything ends in the final product. That stuff is common.
What's not common is actually missing, like, 4 chapters, that's true.

Yikes.

I really wish they had found another way around this. It makes every other route better but it makes Byleth seem like such a cuck for siding with Edelgard. How are you supposed to justify joining the bitch that was complicit in your father's death? All the political bullshit is easy enough to swallow but there's no way to reconcile her having a hand in your father's death unless you're roleplaying as a pathetic, spineless faggot.

>Only reason why the kingdom didn't become a total wasteland was because Dimitri was slayed before he could further sink it deeper into war.
You are, because you implied his absence and lack of fighting prevented the kingdom from becoming a shithole.
It’s not the war that turns the kingdom into a shithole, it’s the imperial occupation.

Iwae intensifies

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Kind of covered by ignoring other paths entirely, but it is pretty crazy how delusional they are.

I mean more stuff like this

Yeah, if you're female Byleth. If you're male, you go through semi-homoerotic scenes despite not being able to romance the guy. Why the fuck am I hand holding, giving romantic words of encouragement, and gazing at him like I'm in love with him as a guy?

On a macro level to Fodlan yeah and I don’t think anyone would argue that.

On an individual level Dimitri definitely gets far worse. At least Edelgard is coherent in other routes, just burdened by a vicious case of sunken cost fallacy

Should I S-Rank Rhea or Sothis when I do Church route?

She proclaims the goddess to be a false god in all routes

>not also including Mercedes who became a nun
Pathetic. It bothers me how you don't get Gilbert in Church route.

>she never even mentions it ever again or says "sorry" at the very least
you have to be a whiteknight of the highest order to justify that shit

If Dimitri is kindergarten then Edelgard is in the womb.

And, again, when does she say that in BE? Post proof or fuck off.

Because you are his bro, and it's a wonderful bromance.
Byleth is also pretty autistic so it's a NO HOMO from him.

Personally I think the developers expected you to play the Church route as the default choice first, after you experience the Berserk-tier animation of Byleth falling down, you would used your imagination for the actual BE Route since they were too lazy to animate a different and unique cutscene of the same event.

Dimitri needs emotional support, the waifu part is a bonus.

Hubie is wasted on that route. I can't wait for the 3rd route where you all join forces to defeat the evil dragon seeding all conflict in the world.

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>only my route is canon cause I say so
the state of edelgard apologetics

Why do you enjoy digging your own grave deeper?

Not him but she literally says gods have no place in the world in Japanese in the final cutscene of BE.

Literally where in his post did he say that route was canon you ducking neanderthal lmfao

>Byleth just wakes up and heads to the monastery
>just walks in
>just approaches Edelgard from behind

Could have been a fucking assassin or something, where were all the guards or whatever?

Again, post proof, video or image, where she states Sothis is a false god in BE. The other three don't count because she wasn't in right state of mind, and has clearly lost it. Only in BE does it show the true Edelgard. I have literally played the BE NG+ three times already, have memorized most of the scenes, and nowhere does she disrespect Sothis.

Moving the goalpost eh

>in the other 3 non-canon routes

>the church is bad because it’s founded on a lie
>*starts a war on information that is flat out incorrect*
>*attributes crimes of the empire and slitherers to the church*
Nice

If the title of the game is anything to go by it's actually GD -> BE -> church -> BL.
Which actually works since BL is best end but without any answers to anything, though I don't believe in canon routes(if you do you're an idiot).

>literally saves the world from nuclear annihilation
>"gods have no place in Fodlan which would still be a smoking ruin if it weren't for gods"
what

Derpadurr

>I have literally played the BE NG+ three times already, have memorized most of the scenes
Either extremely cringe or a very well executed false flag

Church was almost certainly the most played first route and I’m certain that’s what’s caused a lot of this Edelgard backlash in the first place. It’s very easy to miss the transition points needed to be able to do CF on a first playthrough

Personally I liked Blue Lions because Dimitri is the first lord in the series who actually goes through character development instead of just being themselves throughout the game. I liked Redeemitri.
Claude was just his smug self throughout the whole route.
And I felt like Darth Vader to Edelgard's Palpatine on BE.

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>nowhere does she disrespect Sothis.
*becomes nemesis 2.0 and slaughters her children*
*starts the bloodiest war in history, in order to persecute and kill those who believe in sothis*
*proclaims her a false god*

Thr church is bad because a evil dragon bitch runs it and wants to keep humanity down

>direct contradiction
>moving goalpost
???
I don't think you have any clue what you are talking about Edeltard.

>Nowhere in BE did Edelgard claim she doesn't believe in the goddess, only in the 3 non-canon routes where she acts like a cartoon villain despite BE existing where she acts like her actual self.

No route is canon and Edelgard is the same in all routes. It's just that without timeskip her worst traits are beefed up like whoa

It feels like the route they worked first IMO since it's the one with most cutscenes

If post launch support happens they really need to swap all that with a proper cutscene. That scene is straight up jarrying and confusing

IMO BE route makes you feel guilty for pretty much everyone involved, from your own allies being tired of the war to the Church's minions fighting for a lost cause because Rhea chose to channel her inner Edelgard at the worst possible time

>Verdant wind (Summer)
>Crimson Flower (Autumn)
>Silver Snow (Winter)
>Azure Moon (Spring)
>Japanese title is called “Four Seasons”
I guess that makes sense?

Edelgard isn't cool enough to be Sheev, take that back.

>noncanon
Nice opinion.

Doing blue lions route today. Did golden deer's in release week. What am I in for this time?

>I have literally played the BE NG+ three times already
Okay, this is absolutely fucking trolling or else needs legitimate medical attention.

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How do you get that from this, where she's talking about how Rhea has imposed the image of the goddess as an "almighty authority everyone must respect or else" figure?

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He's a murderhobo because he was arrested and trailed for murder he didn't commit 5 minutes after he returned to it. He didn't control the country for even a microsecond when the war broke out.

Sothis!

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>people reach out to each other
I wouldn’t recommend doing that to some people, you might get stabbed

Pretty sure the BL and BE are the most played routes, otherwise she wouldn't be so controversial in the first place

>evil dragon bitch
too bad we already filled the bingo chart

Don't you have a light breeze to job to, Thales?

>and Edelgard is the same in all routes.
Are you fucking retarded

>Bloodiest war in history

Nigga the alliance goes down in two fights. Fhirdiad getting razed is the worst part and that is partially on Dimitri for taking in a crazed Rhea.

The only people you HAVE to kill in CF are Dimitri and Rhea

BL is the least played route. I don’t know why people think edelgard hate comes from that route. Besides the stabbing she isn’t that bad. It’s on other routes like GD and BE where she looks like trash

bold words from a bitch that never once used diplomacy in her life

Sothis isn't truly dead and comes back through Byleth. Sothis also controls the flow of time, even if she wasn't around the people's prayers may still be able to reach her.

>Rhea has imposed the image of the goddess as an "almighty authority everyone must respect or else" figure?
Except she didn't? The staff at the academy the top knights and most of the students care fuck all about the religion. Rhea only started going nuclear when the slither showed themselves as the architects of this attack on the church.

She is the same person with a few events that change things, not exactly the same obviously. Not him but if you can't understand that you might need to study english before even trying to argue about video game villains.

Ahuh whatever you say bub.

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I honestly blame sothis for everything
She's a god why can't she just get rid of the slitherers and smack around rhea for being a bad child

I still have a feeling that Edelgard's Empire will repeat the mistakes of the first one sooner than later and succumb to separatist revolts the moment central power becomes weak enough, although rule of Edelgard herself will be relatively stable

I hate her more after her own path, can't believe people defend her with her own path, Edeltards are legit delusional.

>The only people you HAVE to kill in CF are Dimitri and Rhea
You forgot Hilda.

BE gets split in two two different routes though, I don’t think it’s accurate to group Church route and Edelgard route together considering how radically different they play out

Dude edelgard almost died herself

>*becomes nemesis 2.0 and slaughters her children*
She only wants Rhea's head. The other Children of the goddess, such as Flayn and Seteth can be spared.
>*starts the bloodiest war in history, in order to persecute and kill those who believe in sothis*
The BE is the route with the least casualites. You don't have kill anyone outside of Dimitri, his slave Dedue, and Rhea.
>*proclaims her a false god*
Literally no evidence of that in BE route.

>Edelgard just put herself in danger for the lolz

4D chess

>Why yes, I've never had sex. How did you know?

Oops, didn't notice I mangled up the text. I meant to say Edelgard is the same in all routes UNTIL the timeskip, 'cause after that is when she goes bonkers on her goal without Byleth.

And no, the whole feeling empathy for his dad's death doesn't count because you can still betray her anyway and the plot goes just like GD except not really

>almost dies to her own own paid hitmen
fucking amazing

Because she too retarded to think about the full consequences of her actions.

>give all the power in your “meritocracy” to one supreme ruler who decides who’s worthy to appoint to important positions
Yeah it’s doomed but this is a fantasy world

>the better thread was taken down in favor of edelgard argument#2000
Cool

she's completely right though, bitching and crying will solve nothing

>invading two sovereign nations with crest beasts in tow
It’s the biggest war in a millennia, and people die in war user

Edelgard led them to the trap but didn't want to expose her identity so had to fight to perpetuate her shitty lie, basically.

You are in for kino of the highest order. All the cutscenes are amazing and Dimitri's voice actor sells his lines so fucking hard. Hope you are playing as FemBlyeth though because things a going to get pretty gay if you aren't.

Imagine how different things would be if Byleth didn't save her and she got cut down by this guy.

Consider this: Edgelard is so bad the game gives you a way out .

Please be patient, she literally has autism.

this was in the bingo lol

Telling them "to kill nobles" was the easiest way to bait that dumbfuck into attacking them.
What was she supposed to say?
"Go attack these nobles but don't kill them. I only want you to scare the guy that is escorting them"

Baby hitler moment

>The only people you HAVE to kill in CF are Dimitri and Rhea
Is this true? Some of the retards suicide on my units all the time - can you engage them with Byleth, or something?

This isn’t even a good thing because jeritza kidnaps and kills people

She was supposed to... not fucking do it? Not fucking be evil? Hello??? Are you fucking delusional?

>Want to make Byleth a caster
>have a 25% chance to pass the Monk certification
>have no way of actually using magic right now

How do I boost my Magic / Reason and unlock some spells for myself?

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You can spare her if you fight Claude first.

Like I said she was too stupid and shortsighted to predict she's a potential target in a trap of her own construction.

She could’ve just said the teacher molested her lmao

Dumbass, it was part of her plan to scare the guy away because he was going to be the teacher at the academy. Her plan was to implant as many spies in the church as possible for her plan.
That's why she got so surprised when she found out Byleth was hired for the spot instead.

You can do that by fighting the main boss first and spared everyone else.

Yep, BL route was clearly made with Female Byleth in mind.

Was there ever a chance for Dimitri to save his sister wife or was she doomed to always go full retard?

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Building up you magic is a task for a whole playthrough you can't do it fast with Byleths lack of potential in that field.

Hey, I brought my little sister over.

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But she's not even that.

I want to get Manuela pregnant

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>part of the plan involved killing people
>somehow this is a defence
If I'm a dumbass, what are you?

She'd probably reveal her monster strength and just bop him on the head or something.

Honestly you people are too fucking stupid for this game

Faculty training. Choir practice also gives faith.

yeah, but at the same time it's pretty easy to do Edel's route entirely by accident (just C- support) and it's one of the routes with the most justification for siding against the church since in BL everyone's mostly pretty chill with Rhea killing heretics

She was doomed the moment she misunderstood a symbolic dagger as a carte blanche for a genocidal campaign.

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Have Manuella, Hannamon and Rhea teach you with faculty training.

>this thread

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Jeritza was already an instructor at the monastery.

This is some real damage control. Edelgard hired a group of bandits to kill her classmates, this is a literal fact. She paid money to a group of bandits to kill her peers

this picture never made sense to me.

>holy shit El when I said cut a path for yourself I didn't mean go on a genocidal rampage for power I just wanted you to realize that you don't have to let others boss you around

>imagine if she got cut down
>nah she'd bop him on the head
Based retard.

whoever made this clearly only played BE since edelgard is actually responsible.

>Haha you're gonna give a girl a dagger? What a loser lmao
>N-no I was just j-joking, I was actually gonna get her flowers haha
How does this change the rest of the game?

You should play the game. The same cutscene shows in all routes since it’s before the split. She’s unarmed and unprepared

The basic comic in general? You might be autistic if so

Change it to edelgard and make her cry about the church/crests.

To be fair both Dimitri and Edelgard are autistic, it's just that Edelgard's autism is more severe.

Being an instructor isn't the same as being a house teacher.

And what exactly would she accomplish by killing Dimitri and Claude?

>uhh yeah dude these bandits came and killed everyone except Edelgard, that's not suspicious or shady at all

Dimitri blame Edelgard for everything that happen to him in his life, like how he believe she is responsible for the Duscur attack on his family, despite both of them being little kids.

By giving them a code of conduct, something to believe in and defending the people from bandits and invaders? Or was it the part about them helping orphans?

Yeah and Byleth jumps in before we will know the truth about it.
How about you play the game yourself and pay fucking attention this time.

how's the eye dimitri?

I wish I saved that screenshot of where Edelgard says only one can rule the world in BL, it really shuts up her dumb supporters that say "she only wanted to stop muh false religion"

Well she's not completely unarmed since she has the dagger.

>what would she gain by killing the people she intends to kill anyways?

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF EDELTARDS

>*proclaims her a false god*
I still don't see any evidence of this in the BE route. She says Sothis and Rhea are false in the Church and GD route, but not in BE, and ironically enough, the BL path. Closest she states her thoughts in BL is her conversation with Dimitri, claiming Sothis doesn't answer people's prayers.

Thanks for the screencap.

Dissolution of Edelgard's Empire probably will be bloody as hell too, like if Faerghusians almost genocided Duscurs just for potentialy being involved in murder of their royal family, what they are gonna do with people who occupied their land for 30+ years ?

timing you dumb piece of shit

She is responsible tho, as a dubstep enabler she bears the burden of guilt

The duscur attack is probably the one thing she isn't involved with. Everything else, sure.

>she intends to kill
When did she intend to kill them? All of her plans up until that moment were taking down the church.

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Hey don't compare the CHAD Nemesis to the virgin Edelgard.

Shut up snoygoy

>And what exactly would she accomplish by killing Dimitri and Claude?
Makes it easier to take over their countries? Duh, you fucking idiot. Not to mention the burden of proof here is on you to prove she isn't fucking crazy evil.

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nice argument.

>I don't get edelgards problem with the church, they're fi-

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How is she a dubstep enabler at fucking nine years old m8. She only becomes a willing enabler when she ascends the throne. She is completely at their mercy otherwise

>And what exactly would she accomplish by killing Dimitri and Claude?

Is this a falseflag?

It's literally here, he is talking to Flame Emperor in this image.
Literally play the game again, it's right at the start, you can't miss it if you actually played more than one route you uninformed dimwit.

Literally Dimitri's beef with Edelgard in a nutshell

She isn't but in all fairness she never really tries to explain Dimitri what actually happened

Nah, they're autistic in their own ways.

Still in-character. She feels she needs to win in order to redeem herself, which is why I believe a golden ending for 3H is mostly impossible

GRUG SMASH
GRUG STRONK
GRUG HAS POINTY STICK NOW

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>creating a massive uproar and turmoil in the Alliance and Kingdom with both factions suspecting the empire because Edelgard conveniently survived would make it easier to take over their countries

>fine in all other routes
>crazy in BE

Screen cap this, too

> I have literally played the BE NG+ three times already, have memorized most of the scenes, and nowhere does she disrespect Sothis.
It's pretty hilarious.

Play the game.

Seriously, play the game. Edelgard, in every single route, plans to conquer all of fodlan

>And what exactly would she accomplish by killing Dimitri and Claude?
Are you really being serious? You're not even going to think about how bad it would reflect on the Church and the Academy for housing the two upcoming rulers of their respective nations to die to some bandits? How Edelgard could use this as a way to push her agenda against the church or/and invade their countries? Come on, I didn't think you Edeltards were THAT dumb.

Exactly, Nemesis doesn't pretend to anything greater than what he is, it's just that his Chadliness led others to make him a legendary figure.

Dimitri tortures captured soldiers for shits and giggles, he's even worse than Edeltard

Claide is the only sane choice for a leader.

So was part of her plan getting killed too?

>Posting the one route and the one character who is even close to as morally black as Edeltard.
Yeah, we get it, Rhea went nuts in BE. She's still only basically equal to Edel on that path. Now play something else.

she executes people for basically nothing from the get-go in every route though

I would unironically be a BEfag if Hubert was a cold, calculating Emperor that has been broken by years of torture, and Edelgard was his blindly loyal retainer.

>welcome to the route that must show edelgard being the biggest dindu in history
Everyone in her route is actively working to make her look good.

what does the text say?

Why does it seem like all the people who love Edelgard actually haven't played the fucking game?

This thread have proven me one thing. People don't play the game. Dimitri fags refusing to play any other route to look stupid, Edelgard fags refusing to play any other route to look stupid, Claude fags thinking he is the best when he couldn't do anything. Seriously, I just wish the series just go back to having one route so idiots would stop killing each other for no reason.

>uhh yeah dude, these bandits killed the other two first then Jeritza came and saved Edelgard
>isn't that great? he should be promoted to house teacher!
The snag was that Byleth came around and saved all three, getting the spot Edelgard wanted Death-kun to have instead of dying or fucking off as she expected and getting her extremely wet in the process
Is it a good plan? Not really, in fact it's rather stupid in its greed and prone to going wrong. But it does make sense, theoretically.

>schizophrenic fanfiction

She's still kinda crazy in the church route for god knows what reason.

>robs the grave of Rheas mother
>steals soul stones of her family
CRESTS BAD
CHURCH BAD
RHEA BAD
EDELTARD GOOD

>write a story full of morally grey characters
>Yea Forums argues endlessly over who's TOTALLY SUPER BAD AND EVIL or PERFECTLY GOOD AND NICE
fucking hell, gamers really are retarded

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She can't reveal her identity and it goes awry, she is leading them to the trap beforehand though.

>before playing
>after playing

why does it seem like all the people who hate edelgard haven't played her route?

An edelfaggot made this post. Only playing one route? They get basic shit that’s only in BE wrong

So pretty much you want Hubert and Edelgard to change positions

The FE fanbase literally cannot comprehend morality beyond black and white, it’s embarrasing to say the least

We're going to have at lesst two routes in every game from now to increase replayability.

I hope we get something new in a semi Fates style where each route has different classes and you can kill all your friends again.

>inceltard
>morally grey

I'd like "routes" more if there wasn't hours of tedious shit to replay before you get to the split.

Claude is a gigantic fucking pussy who doesn’t give a fuck about Fodlan. Edelgard call hims outbon this in his own route and she’s honestly right seeing how he acts outside of GD

Based, would rather that then follow a fucking women into battle.

They are foils to one another really.

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Playing her route after GD has so much unintentional comedy it's worth playing for that alone.

If you want grey you have Rhea, everyone else is mentioned as morally black or white because that's what they are. Although a case can be made for Edel just being morally stupid, she deceives a lot so I still put her as a firm villain.

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>Rhea's attempts to prevent another Nemesis are exactly what created another Nemesis
Ironic

Yes but Hubert would have no false pretensions about what he wants, and would see humans as the disposable fleshbags that they are, while still wanting to see humans accomplish greater things than being pawns in the games of immortals and churches.

That's because in BE route is the only story where the church is in danger of becoming irrelevant and Rhea is not gonna let that happen

Can you recruit Catherine if you're BE?

What chapter was it?

Why do Dimitrifags pretend he's a dindunuffin and "so noble" hero?

Okay but what would Edelgard's personality be as the retainer?

Proving my fucking point.

No one does that not even dimitri himself, that’s the point of the character and what makes him appealing

see what i mean?

No, she's Rhea's loyal onahole.

There is literally no sane argument for supporting the genocide Edelgard brought to the continent. The Goddess is real, Edelgard and her family are the literal badguys of history that the church graciously rehabilitated and the only people seeking conflict are beings that dropped nukes on the whole world and were stopped by said church. What's more the church does no shady business as the first half of the game is literally dedicated to saving peasants from Edeltards schemes and bandits.