Series where the first game = best game

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What mod is that? I don't recognize that armor and that is way too many item slots.

I quite like both Diablo 1 and 2. 2's atmosphere is different, it's got a more adventure-ish feel to it, but it's still got the dark, gloomy gothic feeling I like about the first one, just presented in a different fashion. D3 is the one that ruined everything.

the HD mod probably

I wouldn't say D1 is the best game of the series. Each game had its own perks. D3 on the other hand is just shit.

Idk but that body armor is for sure from path of exile.

Homeworld was it's own thing. Homeworld:Cataclysm and Homeworld 2 copied other RTS titles to the detriment of the game.

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Silent Hill

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what indie game is this

>Worse game play
what, that's fucking ridiculous

D2 is just a loot treadmill. Diablo I actually rewards learning the AI

The Hell 2.

It's an ARPG nigga, if it wasn't a loot treadmill something would be wrong.

Retards

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Diablo 2 is only a loot treadmill if you want it to be. I always play single passes because grinding is tedious.

>learning AI
>most complex technique you can do is mob stucking on doors and firewall stacking
1 - 800 - Come on now

Both Diablo and Diablo 2 have interesting enemy AI that display many different patterns. I don't really see how you can say Diablo beats 2 in that regard.

The original was a superior rougelike based game.in development and it shows .

Only autsists prefer D2 and WoW. StarCraft and Diablo were Blizzard's peak, 1996-1998.

Honestly I like what D1 tried to be but the good elements it had weren't the rougelike elements. Which is why 2 has so few of them and focuses more on the loot and shit because that's what 1 did well.

What is
>telekilling
>phase escapes
>kiting
>AI manipulation with fire wall
>stacking cursed darkness items with infravision scrolls
>friendly fire so that multiplayer actually requires coordination

As opposed to D2 when you just skill spam with no concern for placement and can outrun any mob from level one on.

what the fuck are you talking about? the AI is extremely simple in both games, and both games are all about your build and loot, that's the genre, stop repeating bullshit you heard somewhere else

the second game was basically the same but a bit harder

Useless parlor tricks that have little use, with exception of the firewall manipulation.

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II you can just run from enemies a lot of times due to running and the elimination of spell interruption.

Diablo 2 doesn't work on a grid. You really don't work the mobs the same way. I love D2 for what it is, but gameplay is just spamming your main skills on repeat in 90% of cases.

Persona 3

>As opposed to D2 when you just skill spam with no concern for placement and can outrun any mob from level one on
Spoke like someone who never beat Hell or Uber Bosses

>first game
>3

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>Only autsists prefer D2 and WoW
what does WoW have to do with anything? Diablo 2 was Blizzard's peak, and we wouldn't be here discussing the Diablo franchise if it wasn't for 2. It objectively did everything Diablo 1 did but better. The only weak point is the atmosphere, which is a matter of choice. 2's atmosphere is extremely well done, it's just that they didn't want to do it exactly like the first one.

You can buy all the best D1 items at the store too fucking mong...

D2 was the introduction of loot autism. It's the original cancer for loot boxes

>The original was a superior rougelike based game.in development and it shows .
How so? Diablo 2 has characters that play differently in not just stats but mechanically, it has much better tile sizes (no warping back in time from hit recovery, nor god awful aiming), it has a far greater difficulty, it has much more content and had relevant multiplayer. Diablo 2 is better in almost every respect, and both of them are only superficially similar to a roguelike.

>As opposed to D2 when you just skill spam with no concern for placement and can outrun any mob from level one on
Funny, because that is exactly how I played Diablo, but not Diablo 2. Diablo has no real difficulty because the spells are downright broken and you have 100% life and mana recharge potions available at all times. One or two levels in chain lightning and you can clear everything in the game in a few casts, barring a few enemies in hell. In Diablo 2, I'm always making use of a variety of utility skills to manipulate enemies and prevent myself from getting overwhelmed by the time I am in hell difficulty.

First thing that came to my mind too.

DMC
Dead Space
Metro 2033
Silent Hill
Kingdom Hearts
Bayonetta
No More Heroes

I miss it bros

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what I meant was that it's about your leveled skills and your equipment. It's about items. It always was. Stop imagining crap.

>love d2's pvp despite it being imbalanced
>hoping d3 had decent pvp
>disappointment
>lost ark isn't going to be released in the west until 2080
I'm at a loss

Hell can be run with just summons and CE while you watch Netflix. You hardly have to pay attention.

The only hard part is having enough autism to do endless runs to make a melee character playable.

>Ubers
I don't have autism so I didn't sink 20 hours into playing a shitty recycled monster event

DMC3 is better
I agree with the rest

Paper Mario. TTYD has higher highs though.

pls don't tell me you actually play at that fucking res

Kingdom Hearts

>The only hard part is having enough autism to do endless runs to make a melee character playable.
You can easily beat Hell just using Black, Malice and a few utility skills.

crysis

How do I do this

D2MultiRes, doesn't work on the newest versions.

Shit, thanks anyway

Based

Diablo 1 can be done with bolts much easier and quicker than that, so your post is invalid

Wait a sec... houses in the camp?

Why would you miss Median XL? It is still being updated.

>you can't run in D1
>inb4 carlos zoom zoom

shit taste

ok buddy

Only thing FO1 has over 2 is the story.
Everything else, and I mean fucking everything, is better in 2.

Dragon Age

>Fallout
>walk around on the map
>RANDOM ENCOUNTER
>three melee super mutants that will push in my shit have spawned
>walk out of the area

>Fallout 2
>walk around on the map
>RANDOM ENCOUNTER
>a pack of TWELVE fucking dogs has appeared
>take 10 steps towards the boundaries
>five minutes later, the dogs have finished their turn
>take 10 steps towards the boundaries
>five minutes later, the dogs have finished their turn
>take 10 steps towards the boundaries
>five minutes later, the dogs have finished their turn
>take 7 steps towards the boundaries and escape dog hell
>walk around on the map
>RANDOM ENCOUNTER
>a pack of TWELVE fucking dogs has appeared

No one actually playtested Fallout 2. I refuse to believe it.

mass effect

I think they just assumed everyone just speed the game up to max in the options menu.

Eh yes and no, on higher difficulty you need synergy, like in later patches you can't just frozen orb as a sorc like you could originally. They made the skills synergize with each other so now for example, you need to cast blizzard for damage over time then switch to a faster casting fireball for maximum dps. You can also try meteor/glacial spike but it is usually less effective.

This is just one example but mostly if you're on he'll difficulty you can't just spam one skill and get through it

2 is def better.

system shock, not debatable.

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I'd hate to say this, but Diablo II is definitely better than Diablo I. Even though Diablo II's theme was less eerie and you felt way more powerful than you should be.

Personally I love them both, but Diablo II is where I spent most of my time playing. Than, D3 came out and I was like F for Diablo.

I agree 100%

It's the Hellfire HD Mod edition. It's the best version to play if you are gonna go back to D1.

Naw, loot treadmilling is only as bad when you are playing Multipler online with characters way higher than your own.

Also, Diablo 1's AI is about as equal as D2's. In fact I will say that D2's AI was a little better since some bosses can fuck you up if you ain't careful, but they are still very simple AI's.

Are you just trying to get reactions and you's?

When you have to lead monsters one at a time to kill them, because taking them all head on is dumb and will get you killed.

Where as Diablo II as long as you have the right equipment and skills you can charge headstrong in and fuck em up. Unless you are on a higher difficulty. :D

Professor Layton

Me too, senpai. Me too...

Serious Sam

Portal was better than Portal 2.

I'm going to make a prediction

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>playing with combat speed on the slowest possible setting.

>Diablo 2 drop rates

I have never beaten Hell difficulty. At some point it just becomes ridiculous to get kitted to a reasonable level. You have to endlessly run bosses just to get incrementally better gear. It doesn't help that my favorite class is Sorceress and if I want to do hell I have to split skill points just to survive immunes.

I fucking HATE immunes.

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I will give you that Diablo one has the all time best atmosphere, music and tone but GAMEPLAY? Get the fuck out of here with your lies, the gameplay is hot garbage. Mana doesn't regenerate, making it a virtually finite resource without potions. Spells cost MORE mana at higher levels. Enemies don't respawn, which makes clearing a level possible but makes everything in the game finite. It's fun as hell but by god does it need QoL improvements, which is what Diablo 2 does.

Supreme Commander.
2 was so fucking bad everyone is still playing the first one and acting as if it didn't exist.

Stronghold. I consider Crusader to be a standalone expansion.

Subnautica. The second one removes everything that made the first one tense/spooky and therefore interesting.

Empire Earth.

We need a fucking new SC Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Objectively true.

Also I enjoyed The Hell mod a lot. Havnen't tried TH2 although it looks like a bit of a clusterfuck with all those classes and shit.

Is that a beta version of the camp or something i dont remeber that layout being possible