It's been 6 months and I still play DMC 5 for hours every single week. They did it bros...

There's only like 4 Dante missions

Based, me too. Bloody Palace Dante runs daily brother.

>he plays missions at all after 100%ing the game
lol retard go play BP it's 2hrs straight of Dante action whenever you want it.

Nice user. I kinda fell off playing the game but am planning to start up my runs again.

What are you talking about? Half the game is Dante. There's only 4 V missions

Capcom did good this year

Sekiro is a good game, but this is an extremely reddit-tier comment
This thread has literally nothing to do with Sekiro, but you still have the absolute need to "eh. i think X is better"
What an absolute faggot
>Eh
Jesus christ dude.

>3 missions are just boss fights as entire missions
nope

Nero: 9
Dante: 8
V: 4

The prologue is barely a mission so remove that and he has an equal number of missions with Nero

It's the best game I've played in a very long time. I just stopped talking about it because Yea Forums is finally attacking it like everything else. Had a good 5 months before this though. I'm playing DMD right now.

I played RE2 --> DMC5 --> Sekiro --> DMC5
Sekiro got one playthrough and I doubt I'll ever touch it again desu. BB is my favorite game of all time but Sekiro just feels tedious honestly.

And Nero has 2 missions that are juat boss fights and the prologue which is a nothing-mission.
They're literally equal

I played through the story mode once and dropped it.
It's a good game but 3 and 4 surpass it imo.
Maybe I'll pick it up again some day but for now, I've got other games to play.

Weapons Tier List

>top tier
Sparda, Yamato, Beowulf, Summon Swords, Red Queen, Blue Rose, Pandora, Overture, Gerbera, Punchline, Buster Arm, Balrog, Dante, Doctor Faust, King Cerberus, Double Kalina Ann

>high tier
Ebony and Ivory, all shotguns, Grenade launcher, Nightmare Beta, Alastor, Rebellion, Cerberus, Agni and Rudra, Kalina Ann, Gilgamesh, Arbiter, Aquila, Tomboy, Ragtime, Griffon

>mid tier
Ifrit, Submachine guns, rocket launcher, Agni and Rudra, Artemis, Helter Skelter, Shadow, Rawhide, Cavelier

>low tier
Force Edge, All daggers, all thrown weapons, Nevan, Osiris, Eryx, Kablooie, V's cane

>bottom tier
Vendetta, Merciless, Lucifer, Spiral

that doesnt change the fact theres 4 dante missions dude. thats not the point

Balrog 5 is the best weapon in the entire series holy fuck I can't handle how fun it is. Doing a DMD Balrog only run atm

>tfw you manage to pull off your Void combo that you autistically spent hours practicing in a proper mission
Freestyle really is the most fun

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Hopefully that one run was on SOS or you literally missed out on the real game. Not sure why they force you to play DH first in this game unless you tediously beat the tutorial boss, which most people didn't know about on release anyway

they fixed Dante
it was such a joy playing him after 4's iteration
God bless the devs

Do you not know how to count?

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Void not letting you have battle songs is fucking garbage
How did they fuck this up that bad

This, Sekiretards come into every fucking thread it seems to leave comments like this.

crewcut mode

>all guns + balrog only
>disable all double jumps, etc.
>gunslinger only
>invisible balrog and crewcut skin for extra flavor

Best post ITT, Yea Forums was hailing this as the second coming of Jesus for weeks post-launch, it's only now we're seeing OH NO NO NO NO's and WHAT WENT WRONG, REDDIT? threads. It's because deep down, Yea Forums knows it'll never genuinely love the hype train for a game quite like this again, so like a military husband, it abuses its spouse and beloved.

boss fight =/= mission

I usually just play my own music during Void practice and BP these days.
Though I frequently put on the actual dmc5 OST too, just outside of the game so there's no stops

fuck off canadian

- 3 = 4
See the issue here bud?

DHD honestly deserves to be way higher, even if it's in top tier already. Especially when fucking Sparda is the highest and it's always been shit.

Artemis and Cavaliere should be in high tier at the very least. I think Helter Skelter and Rawhide should be higher too. I've never gotten the hate for them, they're fun as fuck.

Nevan should be in mid-tier at the very least too. Same with Spiral.

Overture should be in mid-tier, even though I still personally like it.

Drop DKA to mid or high-tier. Probably the most disappointing thing in Dante's kit in 5, even though it's still fun.

Yeah and I bet all that "playing" is just sitting in training mode practicing jump cancel shit lmao

His Sin devil trigger should be have doppleganger

Which leaves Missions 10, 11, 12, 13, 16 and 18.

I still wish Dante had some sort of third person shooter gimmick. It was so fucking cool in Dragon’s Dogma to chop up enemies and then wheel around for a fivefold flurry headshot

Same. I play for like an hour or two everyday. Or at least long enough to either finish bloody palace or get like 3/4ths of the way.

I'm not too savvy on Reddit's taste in video games, but you have to be delusional to think dmc5 is perfect.

This is what Honeycomb should just be. Probably the most boring E&I ability Dante has.

Reminder to yse Cheat Engine to play BP with DMD from floor 1 at least once in your life.
That shit's a blast

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Isn't that what he has already?

>Nevan that low

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What would make me sad about that is that Honeycomb Fire has a long windup and locks you in place; it would make Dante’s use of it very similar to Nero’s Tomboy Blue Rose shot. Or Bayo’s Bullet Climax in 1.

Not really the same as jumping sideways and flinging off a quick Coyote A shot as you whip the camera around.

Nero: prologue, 1, 2, 3, 6 (just a boss), 7 (optional), 8, 13 (optional), 15, 20 (JAB)

V: 4, 5, 7 (optional), 9, 13 (optional), 14

Dante: 10, 11, 12, 13 (optional), 16, 17 (JAB), 18, 19 (JAB)

Total missions per character:
Nero: 10
V: 6
Dante: 8

Not counting optional missions:
Nero: 8
V: 4
Dante: 7

Not counting missions that are just bosses:
Nero: 8
V: 6
Dante: 6

Not counting optional missions, missions that are just bosses, or the prologue:
Nero: 5
V: 4
Dante: 5

Just setting the record straight,

Demon hunter.
I wanted to be done with it quick so I can move to RDR2 and RE2.

Exactly.

I don't like it any more than you, but Mebane has way too much going against it for me.

>controls like ass
>requires the most purchases to fully upgrade
>exploits no elemental weaknesses
>low dps, unless I'm missing something

>me bane
no-one cared who he was until he put on the mask...

Don't look at me. I'm ashamed. I fucking hate being a phoneposter. I wish I could just afford to fix my computer already.

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ITS KIND FEARS GRAMMAR, ARISEN!

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The crowd control and zoning is awesome though.

I can understand 3 for nostalgia reasons
but 4? why?
4 has literaly nothing over 5

Debug menu when? I’m sick of dicking around rechecking shit in Cheat Engine like a fucking asshole.

I dunno, man. Honestly couldn't tell you. I just like it more.

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Honestly my opinion of DMC5 has only improved on replays. The story, pacing, V, hell even the tree levels are not as bad as I originally felt they were.

BUT, I do have one fucking massive issue with the game; and that is how fucking AWFUL the localization and writing is for this game. Like it is almost embarrassingly bad for a big budget 2019 Capcom title, and I do not mean that in a "cheesy DMC" way, I mean it is just fucking bad.

You have quite literally grammatically incorrect shit like
>Running away? Nah, didn't think so.
when Shadow escapes from Dante, or-
>Without strength, you cannot protect anything, I know that
Which Nero just says out of the fucking blue during a mission, which also makes no sense because it is something Vergil said to Dante and he would have no recollection of.
>You need to see this through, Dantes war...
Nobody who fucking speaks English talks this way.

Seriously, this is such a huge blemish on what would otherwise basically be the fucking perfect DMC game. I feel bad for the actors who were clearly trying their best to work with such a shoddy script. You can do better Capcom, hell you have done better.

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those first two are completely fine though

Dante's war is the only issue imo. Nero often unknowingly quotes Vergil, he's done that since 4. Dante also talks in a common, southern type of dialect like that, he's been saying "aint" since DMC3 and that's used by him inaccurately.

The second one is probably about Nero still feeling guilt about Credo's death in DMC4

To add to this, the fact that he uses Vergil's quote is to show that they're extremely similar when it comes to their views. Nero learned it the hard way with the events of DMC4 and Vergil with the loss of his family thanks to Mundus. Like father, like son.

>those first two are completely fine though

The first one needs to be "I do not think so" and not "I did not think so" for it to be grammatically correct.

"I didnt think so" implies Shadow had already come back.

DMC5 is already like 10x longer than DMC1 and 2x longer than DMC3 and 4.
It is already too long
DMC games should me more replayable than long

The first line seems okay, and the last two are kinda awkward, but for me, the nadir of dialogue comes when Dante meets Vergil's nightmares at the start of mission 18 and Griffon just starts expositing his ass off, ham-fistedly explaining his origin to the player and taking what was previously a quaint little bit of symbolism and bringing it down to the level of fanfiction, not to mention the entire monologue was completely out of character for Griffon.

It's very on the nose, though. Not like dmc has been one for subtlety, but Nero just starts talking to himself for the hell of it.

There is also stupid shit like-

>You cut off your own arm for this?
>My son...means NOTHING to me.
[end of fight]
>NERO...IS MY SON?

Feels like they just took lines the actors said and put them together in ways that make no sense at times.

It eases the pain when you remember that for every awkward line of dialogue, there's a line of dialogue that's awesome. Hero's whole monologue at the start of mission 20 was great, any time Dante and Vergil speak to each other is awesome, and all the quips and taunts are solid. It helps that all the voice actors were on their A game; those guys could read Full Life Consequences and it would still be killer.

samefag

Yeah, there is also shit like V explaining his origin to Trish, which kind of made sense in way since he looks like his mom; but the way he does it is just-

>THIS
>IS
>EXPOSITION

Ruined what should have been a pretty good scene for me.

To be fair, Trish prompted V to speak on the matter, whereas Griffon just belches his whole backstory at Dante, completely unsolicited.

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Yeah, I agree there is definitely great stuff in there. Supposedly almost all of Griffons lines were written by Dan Southworth and you can really tell because the actor is just having a blast.

The good parts sadly just makes the bad parts sting even more for me though.

on Yea Forums x you can un (you) yourself btw

I'm on default 4channel on basic firefox, nice try mate.

Based. I've put 60 hours into Bayo and I still feel like I'm just scratching the surface. There are so many "oh shit, you can do that?" moments and it just never ends. Not to mention it controls like a dream.

Have you tried Transformers Devastation?

>that cheat engine that allows you to disable the wire snatch and use your db as you please while locked on
based mods fixing the game

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The plot was the weak point for me. Even for dmc, there are a lot of oversights. How much info was Dante working with? Did he know V was Vergil? If so, it seems out of character for Dante to do Vergil any favors. If not, then shouldn't Dante have some follow up questions like "Who are you? Where are you getting all this information? How much do you know about me and my brother? When and where did you first encounter this demon? How do you know it's Vergil?" That kind of thing.

Is it just a coincidence that Trish doesn't mention that V is Vergil? If Trish had said that, do you think Dante would've been surprised. Even if V is playing mind games and giving everyone the exact amount of information necessary to manipulate then, being the worst enemy of the people he hired seems like the one bit of info V should not have let slip.

Does Dante not find it suspicious that V wants to get close to Urizen? Does no one wonder why V has demonic powers? Why does it seem like Dante can't get a hustle on when he needs to? He lets Urizen escape, he fails to stop Urizen from eating the fruit, and he dawdles when V prepares to merge with Urizen.

I feel like V not looking like Vergil at all is a bit of plot convenience; if the two looked the least bit similar, it would've been a dead giveaway and Dante would've staved his fucking head in on his way through the front door. Speaking of dead giveaways, does V's stable of dudes not ring any of Dante's bells?

What was the point of hacking up Qliphoth roots for the first nine missions? They don't actually seem to make Urizen any weaker. In fact, the roots' apparent ability to absorb the abilities of nearby demons is never clearly explained.

What are you, a fucking English professor? Referring to present-tense with “didn’t think so” is a perfectly natural American colloquialism?

The game just went up on the Gamepass and I downloaded it but haven't given it a go yet because my knowledge of the franchise is limited to remembering that time Dante killed a tank with his sword. I didn't get much farther than that in DMC2.
Is there anything I need to know before I start playing this game or is it self-contained, so to speak?
Thanks Yea Forumsbros

For me, it's Vergil's 4th concept design

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>My son...means NOTHING to me.
You’re misreading the tone there. It’s supposed to be read
>”My son?” Means nothing to me.

In other words
>”My son?” I have no idea what you’re talking about
Which is closer to the literal Japanese translation

>then why not just translate it that way?
Because it’s meant to be misinterpreted at first, since that supports the OH SHIT reveal when Vergil does his “interfere with our business” speech and you realize he’s on your side. It recontextualizes that specific dialogue to completely change the meaning, and making that work from ambiguous wording in two languages is not easy.

>What are you, a fucking English professor? Referring to present-tense with “didn’t think so” is a perfectly natural American colloquialism?

Next you will be defending "funner" you fucking heathen.

Mission 14 is just 3 bossfights iirc.

Just watch the 5 minute history video on the dmc youtube channel.

Why do Dante and Vergil close the portal while they're still in the underworld? Urizen was on earth before he opened the portal, implying he opened it from earth. Dmc4 establishes that Yamato can open interdimensional portals, but only with the help of an apparatus; otherwise, the Yamato is limited to intradimensional portals. If the Yamato could open interdimensional portals by itself, then the hellgate would be rendered redundant and superfluous. Clearly, there must be an apparatus, but it would have been operated from earth. Can it be opened from earth, but can only be closed from the underworld? Why? How? Is there another apparatus in the underworld? Where? Where is the apparatus on earth? There must be an apparatus because the only time Yamato is shown to open an interdimensional portal on its own is when the two worlds were already connected by another portal. Nero said that if Dante and Vergil closed the portal from the underworld, they would not be able to return. This infers what had already been implied in dmc4, be a use if the Yamato could open interdimensional portals on its own, then the weilder of the Yamato could come and go as the pleased.

thanks for the suggestion but id much rather read something than watch a video
just me
ill probably watch it anyway

Dante has an “evil twin” named Vergil, who wants Dante’s sword, and belittles Dante’s foolishness.

There’s this kid Nero, who once fought against Dante until he realized that Dante wasn’t actually a bad guy. He has a demon arm because it contains the Yamato, a dimension-cutting katana once wielded by Vergil. Nero’s waifu is a pure maiden named Kyrie.

You’re all caught up.

Thanks, user.
Which one wears the cowboy hat?

Dmc 5 is pretty much borrowing from 1 and 3. You can read the wiki if you want but you should play the games if you're interested in them.

I do say, my good sir, I can’t imagine enjoying a piece of entertainment media where a casual character speaks in a colloquial tone instead of using proper, grammatically correct sentences, even if that latter would come across as stilted and unnatural given the patois in use for the dialogue in question.

Surely, that would be the death of reason! Surely, that would mark the end-times for us all!

totally agree. Best game in years. Loved the fact that it runs incredibly smoothly on PC and console.

The game only fails on a narrative standpoint.

the optimization is smokin
the graphics are sexy
the combat is stylish.

I'd gladly pay for more levels, even if they don't include high-quality cinematics.

Nobody. Dante gets a cowboy hat as a plot point during DMC5, it’s not a reference to anything except Michael Jackson

You forgot about Nelo Angry-o, Griffon,Shadow and Nightmare references.

It is still really fucking awkward writing and delivery. The play on words does not really work at all in an english context, they should have just dropped it entirely and have Vergil respond with "My son?" or something.

It isn't the absolute best it could have been, but it came close. It was an absolute blast to play. Now we wait for Vergil DLC or a DMC6 announcement, the party isn't over bros. We waited a decade but it finally kicked back up.

Those aren’t as relevant to the core story arc. They’re more of a fun wink.

I may someday, thanks user.
>it's a plot point
Sounds amusing, thanks.

This but unironically.

That misses the tone as well.

There’s not a perfect translation there, but what they went with was honestly damn good.

>”Son?” Enough of that nonsense
Is the only other translation I can think of that retains the meaning, the twist, and Vergil’s established tone, and it’s at most arguably better.

>bitching about dialogue said by Dante, a literal manchild drunk nerd
The script in this game was one of my favorite parts

I'm confused on what the issue is to begin with? And also, can't you already disable wire snatch in the menu?

V had less than four hours to live, Trish is his mommy - which she remarks, and Trish asked

My opinion doesn't mean much since DMC5 was my first DMC game, but I absolutely loved it. I haven't seen a game that has as high quality cutscenes as this.
And while I don't think the writing is top notch, they do have a really good grasp on tone, never being so goofy to be obnoxious and too serious to be boring.

>Sounds amusing
The game spells it out for you so you won’t miss it blind, but the gunsmith who made Dante’s guns that he’s had since DMC1 is related to the main character who ultimately gives him the cowboy hat, which is done as a sort of fanboy-gushing “hope you like it!” squeeing gift.

Imagine not using Wire Snatch _____until you have Bringer snatch back

DMC1, 3, 4 are what matter. Don't bother reading up on 2. The History of DMC at the start of the game gives you a quick summary that works well enough, and even if you want more, tells you what to focus on.

So is there a point to using either over the other?

It does kinda suck that I Have to disengage lock-on in order to use my Breakers though.

based actual english professor shutting down the autist complaining about a B-action movie anime script that sounded good regardless

DUDE TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF VERGIL IS BACK BABY LMAO

You're completely correct and DMC5 really showed just how far standards have sunk since DMC3. DMC5 fans are fucking insufferable.

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No. The range is identical. There’s no reason not to “get your breakers back” under lock-on once you have knuckle, but presumably the devs left the mechanic as-is for the sake of muscle memory.

I’d have to test to be sure, BUT I think Wire Snatch works without interrupting BK hits and/or holding an enemy. So you can grab and hold an enemy, then wire snatch another enemy.

calm down frodo, you'll probably get your answer in the manga

Glad you double-checked user.

The game is just pure fun. Dipshits on Yea Forums complaining about the story of a DMC game outing themselves as people who never touched a DMC game before this, the story has always been anime tier goof.

>inb4 hurrr turn your brain off bro

Play the game you fucking twats

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yoooooooooooooooo
credo nigger

Hey hey hey, the only DMC titles I finished before DMC5 were DMC4SE (YEARS late) and DmC. And I wasn’t a fan of DMC4_____

DMC5 was still spectacular

Even if it's anime tier goof, its not as bad as people make it out to be.

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Comparing DMC5 to 3 makes DMC3 look like a fucking great Japanese novel. But duuude Vergil's baaaack

>"A rare species.... thought to be extinct, until now that is"

>he means they were only thought to be extinct up until this point, but hes going to actually literally make them extinct now
V with the literal 300 IQ insults

>Vergil gets DLC
>its Visions of V in gameplay format

>ur a rizen

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>Vergil dlc
>but you play as not vergil

??????????????????

did u rike

Dauntie?

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This

I dropped DMC5 4 missions into hard mode because of sheer boredom

Eh? Why not

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Yeah, but it just wasn't the same.

So, I'm a tad confused. Why is Subhuman so hated? Is it really that abhorred by everyone everywhere? Because I really don't mind it.

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3s story isn’t perfect or a masterpiece or even that good. It hits the right emotional beats and gets you hype, that’s all it needs to do really and they did it in 5

Sekiro is a better and smarter action game.
DMC was always a series about mindless buttonmashing.
If you think otherwise you just need to acquire a brain that is not plagued with terminal ADHD and get good for once.

Did you hear the original?

No. Why?

Post a copy of both games please

Give it a listen

You Wouldn't be shitposting here everyday if you actually enjoyed it/Played it, OP, you are just delusional and gay

Nero's wings are ethereal motherfucker, how would that work?

DAUNTIE!

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Without context battle are boring and dumb so it fuckin sucks and blows

I didn't say it was perfect, nor a masterpiece, but it is that good. Especially compared to the excuse plot of DMC5.
>and they did it in 5
Absolutely not. user here completely tore the story up:
And you can't do this for DMC3. Not to mention how the tension completely disintegrates when Nero is fighting not to kill Vergil, but to get him to submit.

Fuck it too bad the old archive isn't working I would have shown you the threads of when it first came out.

The context of the game is a tentacle monster attacked

Does it really matter that fucking much to you?

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The guitar taunt looks so goofy when you do it with Sparda

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why are the drums so quiet

That user is just being really anal about stupid shit. You can do the same with 3.

>Nero is fighting not to kill Vergil,
Good job on completely missing the point of Nero's speech before that.

Why does the singer look like a faggot

>You can do the same with 3.
Go on then. Waiting.
>Nero's speech
You mean that speech that comes completely out of nowhere when Nero hasn't given one indication since the end of DMC4 that he's given one iota of a fuck about Credo? That speech?
>DMC5 really showed just how far standards have sunk since DMC3. DMC5 fans are fucking insufferable.

Refer to

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>Nero's entire arc in the game is about overcoming his insecurity about not being powerful enough to save those he cares about
>>wtf why is he bring up that time he wasn't powerful enough to save someone he cared about
Are you retarded?

I’m not going to respond to these entire walls of text but Nero is suspicious of V, V admits that he’s Vergil to Trish because of mommy, Dante let’s V near Urizen because he’s dying, Dante’s always been lax with his employers i.e. devil may care attitude. Urizen doesn’t look like Vergil’s devil form either. It’s not tearing up the story, it’s just mindless contrarian nitpicking. In the end who gives a fuck, it was fun. It’s like complains about another Jester fight after Arkham betrayed everyone

>Coop mod
>Cheat Engine + BP
>Actual fun to play Nero
>Not garbage Dante
>Possibly Vergil later
We did it lads, we did it

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Refer to: >Nero's entire arc in the game is about overcoming his insecurity about not being powerful enough to save those he cares about
Yeah this arc was really relevant during that scene where he dialogued with Goliath about needing to be strong enough to save those he cares about. Good scene.
You answered maybe 3/22 points.

Play the game

>Yeah this arc was really relevant during that scene where he dialogued with Goliath about needing to be strong enough to save those he cares about. Good scene.
What point are you even trying to make here? That Nero didn't exposition dump his feelings to some random nobody first boss? Do you need him to cry and whine to the camera every two missions to make sure the point is hammered into your head? This shit isn't exactly high brow but you still manage to completely miss the point.

He gave the speech that user is talking about at the phone booth, did you even play the game?
I answered every point I decided and don’t have enough energy nor time to rapid fire shitpost like you’ve been all over Yea Forums. Not many do

how the fuck do i use coop mode? does it only work with someone who's also using it at the moment?

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It works exactly like regular coop, you can connect to any V or Nero player in their missions even if they don't have coop mod, sometimes it refuses to connect me to my friend, sometimes it allows us to finally have some fun, but it's probably related to matchmaking itself

Make sure you and your friend both have Friend Priority or whatever it is turned on in Network options. That should make you guys connect more consistently

If you think about it the tokyo game show would be the perfect timeframe to announce an extra anything, maybe not a special edition but something.
If they don't announce anything at all then it'll be all oger for real. I'm ready to wait for 10 years.

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No shit, it is turned on and like I said, sometimes we can't connect to each other and the issue aren't other players

Why are all the grown ups so irresponsible

dmc4
>Dante kills the pope in broad daylight and sends the public into panic
>Dante seemingly bums around until it's too late
>Trish tosses the pope Sparda so he can have a doomsday
>People died so Trish can somehow speed up a low paying gig

dmc5
>Vergil's return required the demise of like a hundred thousand or more people
>Vergil nelo angelos Trish and Lady and exposes them to the same trauma he experienced
>Nobody is the least bit bothered by this because Vergil is family

If it were to be announced we'd probably have to wait until march for it to release though.

>being unconscious for a month in a suit of armor is the same as being mind broken and working under the person who jump started your autism for ten years

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Post DMC reaction images.

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At least we'd know. There is a couple of easier additions they could do besides adding entirely new characters or missions, that's harder and i'll wait.
They can't just leave like this in the age of network updates, man, Itsuno, Matt just a little game mode, a costume?

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When I play DMC5, I can't shake the feeling there was supposed to be more to the story. The felt so rushed towards the end.

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>vergil,costumes,style announcers and "divergence" mode
Those are mostly the things I want.

Like what?

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The only thing that I feel was noticeably missing or cut is Malphas, and even then it's not much of a big deal.
From the artbook comments and the actual mythological Malphas, I think the implication was meant to be that she was the one providing Urizen with the Scudo and Proto Angelos, and is why she was commanding Cavaleire Angelo

I was thinking about that Divergence mode yes, that's sorely needed but, even if i want to play vergil too, i think expecting and entirely new playable character 6 months after release is unrealistic, expecting vergil to be playable before the SE is unrealistic.
Sure Vergil has half his moves done but the other half has to be animated in engine, actually be done and he's got to get new moves as well and there is the obvious fact that the SE's main selling point is Vergil so they'd be fucking the SE up with an early vergil release. I doubt it'll be feasible but we could still get an update, maybe review the score calculations for mission 10 and 18, maybe add co-op to bloody palace i don't see why that could be a daunting task it seems almost made for it.
My pipe dream is that would cut the void out of the customization shop, it was a good idea to let us instantly "try out" any move we buy but at the cost that loading and unloading screen that's not worth it. Either they find a way to make it work or they drop query that loads up the void.

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6SE >>> 6 = 5SE > 5CE > 5 >= 3SE > 4SE > 1 > 3 > 4 >>>> DmC:DE >>> DmC >>>> wall >>> 2

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I wrote my post like retard sorry guys. Grammar is hard.

Imagine if this part was a break off revealing that you’ve only gotten through half of the game. The other half is Dante and Vergil fighting through hell.

>phantom fight

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>6

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Yeah it feels like there should've been a bigger overarching plot where V, Urizen and Vergil's return were merely a part of it and not the focus

What makes you think they weren't working on Vergil all this time? They probably always planned on having playable Vergil available after release.

No? Have you been in a dmc thread in the last 5 months? It's like 75% love it, 10% thinks it's alright, 15% hate it and screech

Same OP, I'm trying to get platinum but I don't think I can, I'm having trouble getting S in some mission on son of sparda already, imagine on dmd then

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Because people hate the original with the pedo vocalist, not the new one

in the expansion :^)

Maybe mundus returning?

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Dante is a PTSD ridden manchild, Lady is a 40 something year old woman who has deluded herself into thinking she's still a 20 something and having that whole crisis, Nero is Ichigo but deeper, Trish is a demon clone of the main characters' mom

What makes you think they did, the weird hidden update we had where his moveset changed? That's light for proof, i smell development fish. It's all so weird.
Having a Vergil update outside the Special Edition would hurt said SE when it comes out, that's also light for proof we're just in the dark.

No, what I meant was that they were working on Vergil alongside the actual game. They mentioned they were going to announce it in 2017 but waited a whole extra year to get it announced alongside RE because they're sister franchises or whatever. Wouldn't that mean the game was almost done already? I can't remember correctly but Itsuno mentioned around July last year they were already doing qol checks at that time. I'm probably totally wrong but its just my theory.

>you can't change the music battle to we shall never surrender
disappointing desu

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Well what the heck is Vergil supposed to do?
Serve a life sentence in prison and stay put?

I was bored after the first playthrough but I forced myself to beat it again.
It was ok. I prefer 1 and 3 still.

>Serve a life sentence in prison and stay put?
Yes with Moondust

youtu.be/D-lST3hcN1w?t=309 go to 5:09

youtube.com/watch?v=NdJQopRuH1E

King Cerberus' theme is much better than i first thought, it really grew on me.

And the rest, is silence.

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>it is the year 2022
>rumors have it that capcom will announce a new DMC title
>it's yet another DMC4 pachinko game

Honestly it's interesting how DMC4 managed to have 3 pachinkos while DMC3 only had 1. Wonder if they'll do one for 5.

What is there to do after S-Ranking everything?

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S rank everything with Dante using nothing but RG

TAKE COVER
TAKE COVER
TAKE COVER
TAKE COVER

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Explore the game and gameplay. Unfortunately 5's levels are not interconnected like in previous games so there's not really much to experience than what's presented in that regard. I guess you could try a self-imposed challenge like the other user suggested or just combo wank in bloody palace.

vergil when

The only issues I had with DMC5 is that V has a really boring moveset and the lock-on is fucking weird.

I honestly hope they don't do DLC and release a separate Special Edition just so I have an excuse to replay everything again.

probably because 4 has much better combat.

damn, son. I finished the worthy of legend achievement on steam and uninstalled the game but every so often I think seriously about re-installing just to dick around.

Shit's just cash. Except for V. And honestly nero gets a little boring for me on long sesh. But pretty cash money.

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>It's actually good

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This sound worse then both of those songs

At times you can actually hear a good song somewhere in there. I like how it makes the choirs eerie and unsettling. They really dropped the ball with The Duel imo

>we now live in a post DMCV era
>Astral Chain releases with Nintendo bonus on score
>like DMC4 there will most likely not another action game that will come close that level of perfection for 10 years
I may just be spoiled, but they don't make games like that elswere anymore

Learning how to play the game and make combo videos

I actually like The Duel better than Vergil Battle 1 and Vergil Battle 3, equal to Vergil Battle 3 and just below Ultra Violet

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equal to VB2*

Why does Lady look so ugly in that vid?

Clear every stage 200 times

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You'd love the Doom reboot soundtrack then. I can't say I agree with your opinions though. The use of percussions in Vergil Battle 1 combined with that unique buzzing synth and violin strings all cohesively followed with the distorted guitar in background is just masterful and gives birth to a truly unique melody. I never really heard a track similar to it.

Battle 3 is awe inspiring, nothing in 5 comes even close to it for me. The violins, trumpets and drums create a dramatic feeling setting the stage of the fight and then the choir solo combined with light harps strings comes to create an almost blissful moment as if it's lamenting the tragedy of sibling rivalry. Finally they all come together to create a truly powerful melody.

>Co-op MOD
Link me right fucking now. Or did you typo "mode"?

Not that user, but here nexusmods.com/devilmaycry5/mods/353

You are a god user.

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Far from it, but I appreciate the sentiment. The mod is far from perfect but you can still have a lot fun with it.
It's really strange that capcom didn't implement coop in the base game or at least blood palace.

I'm really disappointed with a lack of co-op Bloody Palace, but if people can get co-op on fucking DMC3 and DMC4, which had no network abilities, then I have hope that they'll someday have full co-op via mod for DMC5.

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>fun
>worse mgr knockoff without blademode
>fun
Die, fromshit

youtube.com/watch?v=FSbLLKNsrMQ

This video features some of craziest Devil May Cry gameplay ever.

DMC 2 Dante inspired suit for Nero?

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Bigger

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user, GET BACK INSIDE NOW!

FUCK YOU!

Guys, how many frames is the perfect block window in DMC4? It doesn't seem to be as much as 3 or 5.

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DMC3 and DMC5 have 8 active frames for a perfect block
DMC4 has 1

This. The pre-release and launch threads were beautiful because everyone was having fun. Now, it's just a cesspit of shitposters trying to piss off DMC fans for no good reason.

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6 active frames i think actually, for 3 and 5

>Lucifer and Spiral being in the same league as the literal Rebellion reskins of DMC2
Fuck that, those weapons are fun to use. Lucifer's a fucking blast if you aren't retarded and Spiral, well...
>I'M ON FIRE

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Yes there is. Devil Bringer Hold allows you to still use wire snatch.

Goddamn, that would've been great. You really should have the option to pick any track you want or nothing at all.
>practicing Nero combos with The Time Has Come
>practicing V combos with Ultra Violet
>practicing Dante combos with Shoot the Works
Never realized how big of a missed opportunity this was until you brought it up.

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Vergil at TGS soon bros

>tfw bought all the upgrades so you cant access the void mid mission anymore

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It's a shame you haven't taken the Nevanpill
>bats protect against projectiles, making Engimas a joke
>swordmaster gives good air time and has one of the most fun crazy combos
>Jam Session has great crowd control and gives a ton of style
>invaluable during the shitty Arkham fight
One of the most fun Devil Arms in the whole series.

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Didn't Itsuno or Bingo say that if it wasn't for Kyrie, Nero would've turned out like Vergil?

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The way Vergil emphasizes "my son" is the clue here. He's really saying that his child is irrelevant in the current situation. Also, I feel like Vergil asking "Nero, is my son" was a way to truly confirm who it was after the fight.

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> = 5SE > 5CE
pls no. I can't buy a game three times.

Hell, you don't even need the phone booth scene to see how Nero feels. His animations were designed to be attacks out of frustration and resentment. Itsuno said there was a word for it, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

Even when he's walking, he looks pissed.

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Nice jinx you got there.

You should play the other games, user. You'll end up loving 5 a lot more because of how it calls back to the older titles. The game rewards you for being a fan of the series as a whole.

Plus, they're really damn fun (except 2 and vanilla DmC).

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>without context
More often than not when I'm replaying these games, I skip the cutscenes because I just want to play them. Helps with the replayability part.

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literally how?
i was hype and waited for 5 like you fags
but after finishing it once i never played it again

Pretty proud of this one. The VA's a great for these.

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Who gives a fuck about the story/context of a fight? It's the gameplay that keeps us in, it's a fucking video game.

You the same kind of faggot who thinks Dante shouldn't appear anymore because he's "too strong" and his "character arc" is done?

i dont remember how many times i started bayo and dropped it in the first hour

The part where Nero, Dante, and Vergil are at the top of the Qliphoth needed more time to simmer. Almost immediately after beating their asses, Nero doesn't get time to really have a 1-on-1 conversation with his dad. A nice 2-minute convo about what to do with each other would've been great.

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>5:CE
Combat Evolved?

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Is that what the song says?

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Stop lying Matt

Reposting lounge-kino:
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Good lord. No wonder it feels harder. Royalguard got fucked in DMC4. Building up the revenge meter takes a goddamn eternity and perfect blocking is only 1 frame. However, due to it being 1 frame, getting a perfect block feels pretty damn satisfying.

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>free weapon update
>Agni and Rudra returns to DMC 5 (non-canon)
>all movesets from DMC 3
>back to forward melee button on ground sends 3 waves of flames around Dante, launches enemies on air (not all enemies can be launched on air)
>back to forward on air creates a mini whirlwind around Dante that sucks ground enemies towards him, enemies on air are stunned for a while
>while on Swordmaster style, Dante can use either of the two swords by holding the melee/style button. (holding melee lets you use Agni, style button lets you use Rudra, holding either one of the button again lets you use both of the weapons). Agni has heavy and slow fire moveset, Rudra has light and fast wind moveset

>Who gives a fuck about the story/context of a fight?
A lot of people do, if it's done right. I don't want a full movie shoved into my game, that shit gets boring, but a cutscene that lasts a minute or two between levels to get you in the mood for the next one can improve the overall experience. Gameplay is most important but the other shit matters too.

I think CE means Community Edition/Cheat Engine (mods)

>Nero doesn't get time to really have a 1-on-1 conversation with his dad.
Now that you pointed it out, he really doesn't. After fighting nero he has like a one minute convo and disappears for a month. Unless you count V but he barely talked to him either.

Nero and V were fun team when they were together. They had a nice moment when V was talking about his childhood.

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Yeah that mission picture was pretty sweet. It's funny now that we see how awkward Vergil is in the van with nero.

You know, I think it would've been way cooler if the human part of Vergil looked exactly like him, but he's the one who lost most of his memories and only vaguely remembers Dante. He somehow manages to drag himself in front of Dante's office before collapsing and the story starts from there.
This setup would allow for interactions between Sparda brothers we would've never had otherwise and would give a glimpse into how would their relationships be if things went a different way. In essence it would give an insight into what would've been if Vergil was "good" and worked together with Dante.

This would also be a rather emotional experience for Dante as he would once again get a chance to be with his brother without being at each other's throats. However he's still conflicted about it throughout the story due to past experiences.

On the other side, the demon half of Vergil is not some generic villain three man, but a personification of Vergil that's even colder and brutal than he ever was with all his memories intact, in a sense he would be the "true" Vergil. And once again he's on a quest for more power by using the demon tree.
This could lead to interesting scenarios where Vergil would have to clash against himself(possibly with the help of Dante) both directly and ideologically as this human part of Vergil, unburdened by past, would still hold at heart the true values of a son of Sparda and would come to awaken them.
Dante also has moments with both Vergils

He also meets up with Nero, despite not knowing their relation they both feel a connection with each other and perhaps even assume roles of a mentor and protege at times, though these roles would often switch as each comes to learn something from the other. Through their interaction they build a good relationship but also get into disagreements as well eliciting situations only son and farther could. Of course Dante doesn't say a thing to Nero or Vergil, but is moved by their interactions.

I think Vergil doesn't know Nero is his son but he knows he has a son.
V couldn't have known since Vergil didn't know, Dante knew but he didn't tell V or Nero until the end. I don't think Dante would tell that info to just some guy.
It's all headcannon i suppose but Vergil strikes me as the kind of guy who's really interested in having an heir but nothing beyond that so he knew he had a son but he didn't know that guy was his son.
Doesn't that makes sense?

Nero's motivation for fighting still stems from the hooded Vergil cutting off his arm, but Dante doesn't tell him anything about the situation. Also Vergil originally knows Nero is his son but this memory is only passed to his devil half

At the end the 3 sons of Sparda, after overcoming many ordeals, come to face the villain, the devil Vergil, who has obtained power beyond measure. They battle and defeat him in a final showdown rivaling the DMC1 Mundus fight. But in a last ditch effort and out of spite devil Vergil decides to self destruct and take the human world with him because if he can't have what he wanted, no one else will.

However the human Vergil, who has by now come to an understanding of humanity and cherishes it just like his father, still has a role to play. Determined to now protect the human plight as the faint memories of his past losses and new ones made with Nero and Dante echo through his heart, he finally gains the true power he sought.

The Sparda Sword trembles and answers the call of his soul. Transformed into the Legendary Dark Knight Sparda, Vergil annihilates his demon in a single powerful attack and his memories and power return to him. With this he becomes his fully realized self, though the memories returned make him feel conflicted towards Dante and Nero and thus he leaves to roam the earth like a lone samurai, continuing to fulfill the legacy of his father.

tldr; The game should've focused mainly on Vergil. Nero's DT, Dante's Sin DT and Nero finding out Vergil is his father, all could've been left for a potential DMC6 where they would finally face off with Mundus, destroying him for good together.

Yes I had nothing better to do.

Is it possible to play the coop mod on the pirated version ? I love the game, but I don't love it to the point I'm ready to buy it again on PC.

It's the fun of a DMC game, the state of rapid creation of combos in real time while adaptating to a mobile, hostile environement.
I suppose one can rehearse combos and do nothing but that until they overwhelmingly dominate the fight at all instants but they should try improvising more if you ask me.

DMC has always been very close to its story, a game with nothing but bloody palace would be quite bare.
Think about the character of Dante for a sec, that's right he's a character isn't he and that's because there are cutscenes and story.

Well Dante asked Vergil if it was worth cutting off his son's arm for THIS. Vergil didn't really piece it together at the exact moment, but when he had a chance to breathe he figured it out.

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Nice headcanon. Typical DMCfag

Ignore the fag.
Does he say "my son has nothing to do with this" after or before "you cut off your own son's arm", during the fight? I don't remember.
>not knowing every instant of the vergil fight

All those sexy faces and then V looks like he is sucking on a lemon.

You telling me you're not a DMCfag as well? What are ya, a fucking outsider?

Well, V's image is from in-game and not a cutscene.

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I like what we got but I like your idea as well. I think they were going to have Nelo Angelo or his corruption separated from Vergil, if I remember that concept art correctly.

That's what prompted Vergil to say the line user..

How popular is Dante?

Is he popular enough to get into Smash?

V and Vergil do actually look pretty similar, Vergil just has more chad demon genes

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It's still basically all I play as well. Most played single player game ever. Topped all those "epic open world games with tons of CONTENT" im just getting tore into pure gameplay for hours on end.

Hey thanks for reading it user, glad you liked it. I don't know if they ever previously toyed with the idea of Vergil splitting, but I'm sure it was mostly influenced by DmC DLC. The first time I saw 4SE Vergil having those afterimages during Judgment End accompanied with developers saying that they're taking some cues from DmC, I had an inkling that they're gonna give him a doppleganger in the next game.

>smash
I hope not

It really was a miracle.

Why not?

I literally never ever said that DMC5 was perfect you absolute mongoloid. I nevereven defended DMC5 anywhere in my post. God Fromdrones are truly retarded

How long has gamescom running? Has capcom gone on stage yet? Is it safe to assume the leak about fiendish mode and all that stuff is false then?

I want to say "Capcom, hire this guy," but it's kinda too late.
I feel like the problem with DMC5 is how jarring the story is, it's a good for moving the plot forward, but when we take break and see the plot, something feels off.
I also thinks that itsuno want the mango a part of the base game, but due to time and budget constraint, he can't and just opted for a mango as a market device too

Hell & Hell gets the blood pumping. Anyone beat it? Im half way through but gonna struggle with mission 12, 16 and 18

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you learn to no-damage those missions plus 8 and 10 between h&h and dmd

I feel you. DMC4 feels like molasses after Bayonetta. 5 does too, for that matter.
Fortitudo?

Gamescom finished last week

>locks onto enemy 180° behind you

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>enemy in front of you hits you while the camera swings around

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any tips for the bossfight against the familiars on DMD? (mission before vergil)

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>loks onto nobody eyeball and calibur into it

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break pillars in final boss arena for health

Some notes on the targeting mechanics that may help you avoid this in the future;
1: If the left stick is neutral, it will target the closest enemy
2: If the left stick is pressed in any direction, it will target the enemy in that direction

don't get hit. otherwise rg griffon's attacks and fuck him up once you hit s-rank, shoot shadow and real impact his core, sin dt the duo, last fight i would focus on downing bird and cat asap so i could focus on nightmare and he would have to heal them. if you're low on health, break the pillars. save your big damage for when you hit s-rank and above

staying up for tgs is going to be hard fug

Wish you could set it so this system only works for enemies on screen. Rarely do I want to lock onto an enemy I can't see, especially since they can't start an attack off screen.

she looks beautiful and I love her, so shut your mouth

>dante in smash
>smash autists invade every dmc thread
yeah nah

Because Dante doesn't give a fuck about anything, he's a shadow of his former self.

Out of all the autists here this would be the worst.

How long did that take you?

>Who gives a fuck about the story/context of a fight?
non-autists

Most underrated track in the whole game:
youtu.be/wTE56kl2wt8

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>Most underrated track
>Not youtube.com/watch?v=0-bFokBgKn4&t=

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bump

I agree OP. Although I think the story in DMCV was fan-fiction tier, the gameplay and graphics were top tier. RE2make was also excellent in the same regards. I want to fuck Claire, Jill, Nico (white), and also Dante.

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>DMC4 has 1
the fuck? even 3rd strike had a 3 frame window to parry

real good shit user, its a shame we didnt something like this in the actual game

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he says "my son means nothing to me" and then is surprised in the post fight cutscene that nero is his son, dan said that it was a translation error and it originally said something to the effect of "my son? i dont know what youre talking about"

That dialogue is supposed to be read
>"My son?" Means nothing to me

Which of course shares the same literal meaning as the Japanese and has the added bonus of also (like the original Japanese) being ambiguous enough that it can come across like a callous brush-off and is only later recontextualized as bewilderment.

in terms of popularity id say hes on the same level as solid snake, and definitely more well known than joker and bayonetta so it wouldnt be surprising if he were to be added to smash, although i personally dont want that since DMC threads will be invaded by smash kiddies

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I honestly think the window is the same in 4 as in 3

>What was the point of hacking up Qliphoth roots for the first nine missions? They don't actually seem to make Urizen any weaker. In fact, the roots' apparent ability to absorb the abilities of nearby demons is never clearly explained.
This has been bothering me too. It seems like it didn't do anything at all, assuming V's intention was to cut uri's blood supply before getting there.

Also after months trying to wrap my head around it, I still can't understand the qliphoth's structure. I get that it grows upside down, but then what are the nodes that V and nero destroy before getting to the central one? Is not like they're guarded by powerful demons or anything, the only boss that did have something to do with the tree was nidhogg and it was a parasite. Wouldn't it make more sense to leave that one out of all things be? It is damaging the tree, so it kind of helps your cause even if it's a dangerously violent earthworm moron. Also what was the purpose of gilgamesh? Why take a root and put it in armor? What does that do for you other than looking cool?

Fuck around with the Cheat Engine mods to do wacky shit and/or play co-op missions.

because discussion of dmc on Yea Forums would be evn more ruined. That and there's no way he would be properly represented in a game like smash

Actually, if you introduced Nidhogg to the main Qliphoth structure would it have killed the tree?

Gamer

>dangerously violent earthworm moron
Wait a fucking minute.

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That screenshot is amazing. Still can't believe they managed to pull off a realistic looking Dante so well.

the inferior game

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Blue Orb Nero is always my favorite.

:^)

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Nice.

I-is that Kyrie in the background?

Same here. 5 isn't my favorite game in the series but I genuinely need a game *like* 5 to rekindle my love for games. Personally, the hobby was flatlinning and 2019 has been taking me back to it, even if I don't play a quarter of what I used to.

Capcom is good people. REmake2 and DMC5 are GOTY contenders. Nero, Dante and V (kinda) are a legit posse to bring DMC back.

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>There's only like 4 V missions

Fixed for accuracy. The last batch of the game is exclusively Dante except the second round of the Vergil fight.

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I was hoping this would work, it wasn't what I was expecting

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man, i miss the hype days before release ...

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Because the Qliphoth roots are still powering up the Qlipoth, the literal Tree Portal to hell, and you have several independent higher demons trying to harvest the fruit for themselves. Urizen wasn't exactly accepted by hell's people.

We'll get them back sooner or later, either from dlc or a special edition or even 6

I keep my motivation up!

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Howdy.

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>when you were not having premarital sex I was having Premarital Sex

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I get sad everytime I remember we live in a world where Sekiro is considered a deeper game than DMC5 because it was harder to beat.

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WE LIVE
IN A
SOCIETY

How do we heal the DMC Split?

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By moving on

Aside from shitposters, I haven't seen many people who actually believe this

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Ignoring it like all of my problems

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I liked the story, but it really could have benefited from one or two extra missions after Vergil came back to show his character more
Or at least make the cutscenes with him longer god damn, he and Dante barely talk

wait for the SE user.

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I think it would have benefited from no flashback and no prologue, that's 2 missions who could have been used to do what you described. Did we really need to know in detail how Dante reached the throne room before the prologue? Did we really need many of the things that happened throughout?
That being said they can't rewrite the plot now, this is the game we have and the combat's good.

Is there any way for V to keep Shadow behind an enemy after he passes through them using stinger input (forward+shadow attack)?
He always teleports back in front, unless you time hedgehog juuuust right. Stupid fatto catto...

I agree 100%
>call the game DMC V(ergil)
>the whole plot and character motivations revolve around him
>dedicate the full game to bring him back
>when he finally gets back on screen he immediately fucks off and then fucks off again
It's just not fair

Shadow will always teleport to you when you target a demon, if you don't target anything it will stay near the ennemy but the moment you press that R1 on anything it will teleport to you.

Thx helpful user

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Is there a DMC edit of pic related?

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I think it's a little too easy and has too much fanservice. Like they were trying to appeal to the fanbase instead of making something interesting, which is not bad but for me it's a pretty mediocre game.

There is no split

No one who’s not a journo likes DmC.

C'mon, DmC is not so bad.

It's a fucking travesty. Literal garbage that was made and written by adults who are mentally 15 year old edgelords.

t journo