Drakengard

This is Caim from the Drakengard series. He's a nice guy, say something nice to him!

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Caim rhymes with murder.

But he can't reply.

>Mute
>Loves Murder
>Hates Incest
>Has a cool dragon
>Spends the time between D1 and D2 tormenting Manah
>Kills death
>Kino death scene youtube.com/watch?v=Rqey0mQNttw
The best protagonist of the PS2 era

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Your wife is pretty hot

ehs a pretty cool guy. he kills everyone and doesn't afraid of anything.

Superior Drag-on Dragoon, coming right up!

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Are nier and drakengard in any way connected?

Yes. Directly.

Oh cool, how does pseudo-Guts fit in with the other titles?

YOU WILL NEVER SAVE FURIAE

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His tale is literally the spark that kickstarts everything that leads to Nier and thus to Automata. Not even joking.

That sounds pretty cool, definitely a title I need to pick up one day.

I do recommend it.
I got totally hooked to Taro's mushrooms after beating Automata, so I went and hunted down not only the OG Nier, but both of the DoD games that matter: the first and the third one.

I can ensure you: it was one helluva rollercoaster of madness. Especially the first DoD is TERRIBLE when it comes to the gameplay ... but that all plays to the greater plan of the games' themes.

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I think only Furiae cares about that.

THE GREATEST LOVE STORY EVER TOLD

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love me some murder

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Drakengard 5 starring her WHEN ?

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Just fuck your sister, dude.

why should he? he's too busy fucking angelus.

she's a literal whore but I still love her

what kind of gameplay should future Drakengard games have?

hexagon tile TRPG with epic Sawano tunes

>both of the DoD games that matter: the first and the third one

i consider the first dod a legit piece of art and the simple, stiff and monotonous gameplay is an important part of it. that game will grind you down. there's nothing positive in this game to experience and you still will love it. you'll get into a killing trance almost like caim himself, manically laughing wile shit only gets worse.

dod3 on the other hand
>the lame attempts at (gaming)humor
>bad or at least questionable localization
>lack of budget and time visible at every corner
>framerate! cinematic 24 frames per MINUTE

Just how damn strong is he if he can slice through a group of soldiers like that and then stop his swing so fast that all the blood on his blade flies off?

Best mute protagonist?

Is that Sora from kingdom hearts?

in what fucking reality do you live, my man

We need more protagonists like him

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I actually would welcome it.

His dragon wife was the strongest thing in existence at the time by virtue of being the goddess seal and a dragon.
Killing said dragon was easier than trying to kill him.

Caim is fucking amazing.

CAIM
FUCKS
LIZARDS

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He has a great smile. Who's his dentist?

DK2 isn't cannon.

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His waifu is actually top tier tho..

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She did not deserve the hand that fate delt her and whatever the Black Flower is needs to die painfully.

It is but even Taro considers it to be a different continuity.

youtu.be/LfQvuPZLG6c

K I N O

everything is cannon in the taroverse

I can't believe Taro made a literal whore character so great

But we need a 4 first

prepare to be amazed

youtube.com/watch?v=Nq1bBbdtwIY

Lovely waifu.

Kek.

>Killing a mighty dragon who is also a goddess seal is easier than trying to kill a man named Caim
Don't know why that made me chuckle, but it did. He really is awesome.

wow kingdom hearts in your dimension if pretty hardcore

...

Its true, Caim appearing was enough to break a character mentally.
He appears casually bisecting people with a gleeful smile.

Its a plot point that nobody could reasonably take him on in a fight and the only alternative solution is to kill the dragon.

>hates incest
>kino
Get out of here, Caim. You have to fuck your sister.

Dimitri from that new fire emblem game came close. (they even got the original artist for the Drakengard games to draw him in the FE mobile game) but man, he ends up more like a cheap imitation that backs down halfway through. There will never probably never be a character that can outshine Caim in being Caim

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Too bad he calms down

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I'm not surprised. He loves murder almost as much, if not more than he loves his waifu. And he fucking LOVES Angelus.
t. Furiae

Caim is a unique existence entirely, nobody could ever come close.
Maybe Papa Nier but he didn't know the error of his ways and by the time he came to learn the truth the damage was done.

so this is the power of snickers

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someday

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CAIM!
YOU NEED TO CONTINUE THE FAMILY LINE.

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does it really mater? the continuity is pretty fluid in this series, not that I'm complaining

Oh it's easy for him to continue the family line. Angelus technically has a human form after all if that weird fake spin-off is anything.

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I mean, when you see your parents ripped apart by a dragon, that shit might affect you a bit.

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yo what's that baller outfit on my boy

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underrated

Man, the elves in that manga make a good case as to why they all should've been genocided.

>if that weird fake spin-off is anything
I want to know more. Fake or not, please post more about this spin-off.

>Parents killed right before his eyes
>Consumed by revenge
>loses an eye
>loves murder
>Kills anything that gets in his way, including children.
>Kills his (step)sister who plunged the world into chaos
>dies in almost every route
>fucks a dragon

Wow, he really is just a discount Caim

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>>fucks a dragon
yo wtf Fire Emblem is wild nowadays, huh?

>fucks a dragon
Yea, I bet she was in human form.

It was supposed to be like a SoL spinoff and Caim was a teacher.

your game is unplayable piece of shit
not even good story is worth of forcing yourself through it

>t. Automata baby

he's kinda right

Yeah. It's kinda lame we don't see Flayn in her dragon form though. Was kinda weird seeing a game that didn't have a playable beast/dragon unit for once,

I legit thought my Drakengard 1 disc was scratched because the music sounded like the first 5 seconds of an orchestral piece looped.

The "music" really added to the strange nature of the game.

>>framerate! cinematic 24 frames per MINUTE
Seriously hope PS3 emulation fixes this shit soon. Framerate legit drives me insane.

>>fucks a dragon

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Probably my favorite song from the musical.

What the fuck? This guy actually has a pretty good voice.

Only because of Byleth really.

She almost ruined the game for me. Mary Sue as fuck. Basically anime version of Gman.

>something like this gets reported IRL

what do you do Yea Forums?

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die

get real salty

Got to love that intro of his in Drakengard 2.

If I'm lucky, die

Pretty much the only thing to love in Drakengard 2

I suppose the best way to play them nowadays is to emulate the first and dust off my ps3?

Drakengard 2 is my favorite Yoko Taro game.

I'd probably check online to make sure it isn't some elaborate hoax, and then shit myself in fear knowing we're all going to die,

stop trying to bait

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Well there's also Legna.
It's a guilty pleasure.

it's not a yoko taro game though, SE booted him from being the director for a literal who who only ever directed D2 still to this point

>that buddy cop LP of Drakengard I

That was really fun to read, wish I could find it again.

>Open this so I can listen to Growing Wings while I scroll down.
>Can't bring myself not to stay and watch the whole thing.
This scene has no right being so good.

the dark id

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this
and
this
in that order

Hide in my hole until magic experiments get announced by the Government and then sign myself up for some fucked up shit.

>One ally's a pedophile
>One eats kids while laughing wild
>One kills his sister in Caim's trial
>Just to murder a child

>Mashing the square button again
>Conscripts and civilians
>Trolls and orcs and all subhumen
>They'll say he killed billions

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CAIM!

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>Watch this while listening to MGR music
>Syncs perfectly
He's even based on accident.

>that game will grind you down. there's nothing positive in this game to experience and you still will love it. you'll get into a killing trance almost like caim himself, manically laughing wile shit only gets worse.
It really is Dinasty Warriors for hipsters.

>the simple, stiff and monotonous gameplay is an important part of it. that game will grind you down. there's nothing positive in this game to experience and you still will love it.
Fuck me, you weebs have spent too much time watching shitty Drakengard "analysis" videos on YouTube and have actually convinced yourself that it's shit on purpose.

>Travel to Israel.
>Wait for shit to get REAL wacky/Biblical.
>Suffer.
>???
>Die.

DoD ports when

>teeth
He has a nice set of teeth.

I wonder if Two would still find a way to suffer if she was completely removed from that terrible universe.

I kinda wish I played the game when I was younger, seemed like a wild ride despite being jank but now that everyone pretty much blew open the plot, is it even worth it to still pick up DoD1?
DoD1 or DoD2's Growing Wings? Which do you guys prefer?

>Seriously hope PS3 emulation fixes this shit soon.
PS3 emulation already fixeD this shit a couple years ago. You can find people running it at 4K / solid 30fps on Youtube. Even my oldass i7 2600k + GTX 1060 6gb combo gets steady-ish 30 at 1080p.

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DoD1, but DoD2 uses the song better.
As for the game, it really depends on your tolerance for bad Dynasty Warriors rip-offs. The story/music are absolute kino, but the gameplay is REALLY rough and extremely grindy if you want to see all the endings.
If you can't stomach the gameplay, it's worth looking up the cutscenes on youtube at least.

When did Yea Forums the musical get so based?

Hitori
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I should really emulate Drakengard 1.

Nah, just reenact it.

Definitely.

Octa always looks like he's on the prowl.

Was it kino?

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>Flowers.

Did you play em ont he original console, or do they emulate well enough?

This one deserves a remaster the most. Leave everything, but the gameplay and graphics alone. Promote as the beginning of the nier series and watch and laugh as people discover all the fucked up shit in the game. And give a whole new wave of people ptsd over bells.

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I did play it on real deal PS2, but PCSX2 has been more than capable of emulating DoD1 for ages now.

Is there a more retarded thing than ending E of the original Drakengard? And I'm not talking that Taro expanded it ass-backwards with novels and shit. But in the game itself it was absolutely fucking random and they just threw it in for the wtfpoints.

Unlocking the jet engine as a playable character.

I like the fact that Caim doesn't even fly in the cockpit, he's just sitting on top of it like he does with Angelus.

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>Ending where his pact is broken
>Finally gets to speak after his sister dying, his brother in law betraying them, killing children, and the world on the brink of destruction
>"I am Caim" is the only thing he says

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That was just a secret bonus skin in a nutshell.
Ending was a legitimate part of the story.

When you consider the events of the game and what's happening right now it is a very real possibility that Caim is in an even weirded mental state than he usually is by then.

>gleeful happy smile when he sees all the dragons he'll get to fight after
because it cuts off there's no proof in that ending he doesn't solo an army of dragons

>there will never be another taro entry as haunting and fucked as D1

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>"Is it over...Caim?"

Since this is a drakengard thread, may as well ask a question. When I try to emulate this on PCSX2, there's a black bar that covers the bottom part of the screen, more specifically the UI. Anyone know how to fix this?

Ehs a pretty cool dude, does a good murder and doesn't into incest.

>there will never be a game with Dragons versus Fighter Jets

Why are we here? Just to suffer?

>Tokyo Tower
Fuck.

shame caim's best design was in d2

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it's fucking great, a similar thing in literature I enjoyed was rape of nanking

Based

The voice acting in this game is so damn good, probably the best I've ever heard. The VA for Faerie fucking killed it.

Sometimes I wonder if Yoko Taro is tempted to make a Drakengard 2, his Drakengard 2
Then he realises with all his timelines and shit he can never delete Drakengard 2 from the canon

I'd let her peg me desu

>the watchers VA is cosmo from fairly odd parents
>angelus/seere's VA is sheila broflovski from south park
>steve blum was the fairy king
>leonard's VA is the narrator of soulcaliber
>etc

Dragon fucking is hardly anything new in FE.

Seriously.
Two of the damn endings are straight out of nightmares.

Are there any other games where an orphanage full of children burns to the ground because a character was too busy jerking off onto the corpse of a kid to notice the fire?

undub version sure

I've beaten Drakengard 1 and 3 and will be starting Nier tomorrow. Anything I should keep in mind?

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spears are OP

You probably already know to keep going after "finishing" the game once.
Other than that just leave before someone spoils you.

Just take your time and enjoy yourself, there's nothing quite like it. Play replicant and read grimoire nier along for the best experience.

Thanks guys, outta here before I get spoiled

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Caim is a handsome boy and I look forward to fighting him in the Automata alliance raid

I like Zero, but Caim is still the OG Dragoon.

>Caim, realising that he is going to be able to murder this man for a second time, smiles with glee
Caim really is the best.

YWN find someone that loves you as much as Caim loves murder

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I
CAN
HEAR
A
SOUND

So Red Eye was Caim, right?

You, too, can fill that emptiness in your soul with murder. Believe in yourself!

He looks like he fucks dragons

Oh you.

Just played through Automata, got Drakengard 3 and Nier because of it. Thinking of playing D3>D1>Nier because I hear it's chronological. Anything wrong with this and what am I in for?

the elves in this manga were assholes and they retroactively make me wish there were more of them to murder in the games
specifically the elf that starred in this manga

D1 is first. You won't get similarities and references in 3 otherwise. Keep in mind, that all these ties between games are mostly explained in supplementary material.

based

Drakengard 3 gameplay is better than the other 2 and its atmosphere is completely different, you should go release order, D1,nier D3

What a champ.
I'm envious.

Maybe? There's a lot of weird shit in the lore that'll never be explained. Like whether or not the Queen is related to the Flower

Probably not, it would be really goofy if it were true. I maybe remembering this wrong, but side material for Nier stated that Red Eye returned by possessing the corpse of a little girl in events that occurred just before the events of Nier. Also, Red Eye might be a part of N2 in someway.

>say something nice to him!
He's got very good taste in females

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If it weren't for darkid this shitty game would've never been popular.

I thought there was more than one. Him just being the first one in Nier.

The remix of Growing Wings was good

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That's pretty disingenuous. Caim would never murder Furiae prior to realizing she wanted to keep it in the family

Counterpoint.

Murder

That is what is confusing. The side material has multiple mentions of Red Eyes being in the legion but Red Eye is apparently different from them and is unique. The girl's corpse became possessed because it was infected by Red Eye spores/molecules(?) on the spot where that Red Eye died in Jerusalem. Not enough information was given and it is really convoluted.

I WANNA FUCK MY SISTER

I took that as her becoming Red Eye after Caim was finally killed there.

Develop by people who bought you deadly premonition Acess games

It's funny because he didn't want to fuck his sister, she wanted to fuck HIM. Caim even refuses her at one point and that totally breaks her to pieces, I think.

Stop hating drakengard 2

More like for brain dead weebs

It's no lie one of my favorite games.

What the fuck? How the hell did this go under my nose for so long.

Ok stop lying
it's my first drakengard game so i have soft spot for it[spoilers/]

Honestly, it's discount Dynasty Warriors. Gameplay is not Drakengard's strong point.

475475484
Caim do you think there is a solution to any of these problems in the world where the answer doesn't involve using a dragon to incinerate half the county?

I think it also stated that her personality and speech were different apon her resurrection, (which I admit could mean anything) so that lead me to believe that she was being possessed by the original Red Eye.

Why cant all games have nice music?
youtube.com/watch?v=NuI671YQV2c

Drakengard 2 did have some cool songs
youtu.be/adDbBPek0gI
youtu.be/gnNSy7SHBTA
youtu.be/Da2ywl5tJHk
youtu.be/zGiF_u-oUC4

Die if I'm really really really really really really lucky.

bro just turn into salt lmfao

>Also, Red Eye might be a part of N2 in someway.

nah. just fan service, like eves watcher tattoo

Everything the machines do is an imitation without understanding. Them actually being related would arguably remove the point.

Sounds fucking awful, but it's better than the alternative.

It's over. We're together now.

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He looks like a Castlevania character.

Isn't this basically Drakengard 3's plot? Zero is trying to prevent this from happening? Fuck that seed and fuck that flower man

God is kind of an asshole.

Understatement of the fucking century.

*blocks your path*

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>Red Eye returned by possessing the corpse of a little girl
A Replicant travelled to Jerusalem and found the atomized remains of Red Eyes. He made a wish for his dead lover to be returned to him. The salty material in the area reformed into the shape of his departed lover who immediately killed him and resumed doing Red Eyes stuff. I can't remember why he thought praying to the remains of Red Eyes would work or where he even got the crazy idea, but hey it sort of worked.

Doesn't that comic also have a scene where Caim stabs Brother One in the gut, but it looks like he is stabbing Robin from Fire Emblem?

Are you sure it was his lover and not his little sister? I could be remembering this wrong.

It's Drakengard. Why not both?

>Doing in Brother One like that.
He may be the worst half of One but he's still in a sense One, and thus superior to mortals. This elf must be put to the cross.

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I fucking hate that elf

Yes.

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>Glasses
>Stockings
>Short skirt
>Garter
>Long hair
>Literally perfect
>Only a few hundred pieces of fanart
Accord deserves better

Good point. The Nier wiki just says his loved-one.

>In Year 3276 The "Replicants" continue to cleanse the world. When the number of the Legion has been reduced drastically, a single "Replicant" stepped upon the forbidden city of Jerusalem. The young "Replicant's" goal was to "bring back his loved one (also a "Replicant") from the dead". The revived loved-one, however, shows none of its previous personality, has red eyes and proceeds to kill the one who revived it on the spot. Then, essentially becoming the new "Red-Eye", it begins to restore the other Legions. However, the Legions reappearance is short-lived and lasts only a year

>Tfw can only have a nice comfy Taro thread if the OP isn't 2Bs ass

>the Legions reappearance is short-lived and lasts only a year
what a fucking scrub why did he even love her lmao

That's because FE baby fags wouldn't like to play full blown villain route, even though they pretend they would.
They even had to dumb down Edelgard's route and fanfiction everything in it to make her looks sympathetic, instead of making it true villain route. Normies are already bitching about his murder-hobo phase as it is because it was "too much" for them. If he kept being blonde Caim until the end in his own route, he would end up being hated more than Rhea and Edelgard combined and IS doesn't have the balls to go full villain route with either of their lords. As proven with Edelgard, agian.

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You can even have a nice thread of automata if you do that. Don't know why people start a thread with ass if they want actual discussion.

Because that dude's waifu wasn't Caim.

It's not just normies. Even faggots here were like:
>Waaaaaaa when does he calms down I don't want to play punished Dimitri for long.
Antagonistic protagonist isn't something you can pull in a game meant for nintendo brains.

I thought that manga was tied to Drakengard 3, not 1. Weren't they set in completely different times?

Dimitri was literal anime Hamlet that didn't end up in tragedy. At least in his own route. It's obvious that was the real inspiration for his character, over Caim himself.

3 is a little while before 1, but it's not too long and Brother One doesn't really age since he's an artificial Intoner. As such he can make it to pre-1 times and meets Caim.

However this is an alternate timeline where an alternate version of 3 is leading into an alternate version of 1.

He's cute

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I bought Drakengard 1 on launch, as a huge Squaresoft fan and even as a fan of Dynasty Warriors type games, I have to say Drakengard was honestly a fucking terrible game. It felt shitty and dated even when it was released. I guess people only care about it now/overlook its heavy flaws just because of all the Nier stuff that came afterwards and links back to it?

Bait

I'm 100% serious, it's a legit garbage game. Actually finding it hilarious how people are here sucking eachothers dicks over a 4/10 game. Just because Taro made some good shit further down the line doesn't mean you have to go full retard and retroactively suck dick.

Moshi moshi baitou desu
hai hai Answer desu

Hell no. Drakengard was praised for it's story, music and characters even before Replicant came out.

This is a crazy thought maybe its just me, but have you ever considered people may have different opinions than you?

Started this last night, why does he swing his blade so slow?

Because he hates you.

This. Not to mention that despite IS making Edelgard's route a fanfiction so she can be a dindu, she still gets shit from fans. Dimitri doesn't get as much as shit as her and Rhea, but there are still people who were too traumatized by his edgy punished phase and that keep bitching about it. There is no way that IS could pull full blown villain route and for it to end well. FE is not the franchise in where such thing can end up working well.
Dimitri's punished phase is closest you will get to it. Even then, you can hardly blame him for being a ruthless monster when it comes to his enemies and IS made it PG-friendly. You hear about him killing children. Torturing people in ruthless ways. But you never see it happen on screen. You almost did when he tried to rip Randolph's eyes, but your avatar ends up killing Randolph before Dimitri can have his fun with him.

God, I wish I could just strangle that fuckface already. Probably the most insufferable character in the entire series.

I've gathered that

>Normies
Faggots here bitched about it as well.
>When does he get healed?
>How many chapters of edge?
>Please tell me when does he starts being normal again?
>Can he get back to normal already?
So it's not just IS that is the issue, but its fags. FE just isn't the franchise that can pull such protagonist and get away with it. Brainlets are already calling Edelgard as Hitler and nazi and she isn't even that extreme, or bad in fact.

I love Zero

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Didn't this game have a pedophile priest who literally orgasms when the kid party member hugs him?

>implying nu-Yea Forums isn't a pleb board
Yea Forums is now just l*ddit 2.0.

>"a sound.flac"

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More like they were given as it's only redeeming features, which is the truth. The story and soundtrack deserved a much much better game.

youtu.be/49gLC9yiGOg
fuck this fight

Then what the fuck is the point of it

yeah I watched it on youtube, I'm rhythm impaired

A game only needs to do one thing uniquely well to be remembered and worthwhile, even if everything else is bad. Drakengard's a genuinely better game than 90% of Ubisoft's open world shovelware for that reason.

Because the events within loosely transpire in the main timeline as well and go a ways towards explaining why the world in 1 is the way that it is.

Fun-fact: In original script that got cut, Dimitri was still punished even after Rodrigue died. Annette and Felix were even meant to betray him. I don't know why Annette turned his back on him, but Felix did it because he thought that Dimitri killed Rodrigue.
I guess IS just chickened out of doing it and had him have redemption arc instead.
In their defense: Dimitri being full-blown Caim until the end would be very shit to do to his character unless IS planned to make him main villain of 3H, or some future sequel like Darkengard did Caim.
If this game's "choices" actually meant a damn, then perhaps they would be able to pull their original plans and have Dimitri stay Caim until the end like in original plans if you made wrong choices, while they have him snap out of it if you made the right ones. Obviously, this game's "choices" are a worthless meme, so you need to have linear outcome.

I think that lot of these issue would be solved if they just got rid of shitty self-insert Mary Sue MC that everyone needs to wank 24/7. Byleth, just like Corrin and Robin before him, drags the game down.

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shit pants

It's been a while since I played, but I'm going to replay the entire Taro saga tonight

Its fire emblem stamp, that said, 3H is miles better than the shit they pulled beforehand, was expecting some harry potter mixed with awakening shit and instead we got discount caim, a bunch of sluts, the waifubait being a homicidal maniac that turns into xenomorph and burns people, depressed pope(female), completely subverted expectations, i was ready to shit on it from day 1 but im glad i didn't had to

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Would she get along with Caim or would Caim murder her for being a robot

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This scene was the biggest cocktease and cuckoldry, all in one.

I legitmetely like Drakengard 2s gameplay so much, it feels so fast and smooth and having ability to switch between first and third point of view on a dragon is amazing
but it's pretty boring and Drakengard 1 is sick in terms of art and story but it's a shit game, never wanna play it again ever
I normally hate remakes, but I'd buy remake of Drakengard 1 made by Platinum

Drakengard will never get a remake in the current age, 3 may have a very slim chance now that taro is well known thanks to automata, but 1, nobody will publish a game like that

Is Drakengard 1 undub ok to play? Is there a lot of unsubtitled dialogue?

And even then I still have no idea what does Caim love more: murder, or Angelus.
I cried like a bitch when they died, I'm just admitting that right now.

The dub is great though

Only one or two voices is better in the undub.

How is this game suffering kino?

which zero? localized or original? they're quite different.

i don't know if this was fixed but i remember there being issues if you set the resolution above the original or something.

Only played localized Zero, I know, I know...
I think she's a breath of fresh air compared to other heroines, she's not pure or demure, hates platforming like me and isn't a Mary Sue

imagine a metroidvania Drakengard

Should I even bother with 2 since it's not canon?

I wouldn't, there are a few alright bits but it's not worth the slog
Imagine the shit gameplay of Drakengard 1 but without the payoff

Damn, his dick must be enormous.

This reminds me, what ever happened with that Yoko Taro manga about modern high school kids with psychic powers?
Did it stop getting translations or did it die completely to get extra developing time for Nier Automata?

Next game will be between Nier and Automata because of the giant timeskip

>Only played localized Zero, I know, I know...
that's on square-enix. digital only release. several dlc-packs with stuff that would have been included in earlier games. what you want the jap dub? that's another 5 bucks.
they really tried milk the fanbase with that lackluster release.

Oh OK, I just always go undub/sub if I can. Guess I'll try it out.

>Brainlets are already calling Edelgard as Hitler and nazi
that's depressing

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>localized or original? they're quite different.
How so? is she an even bigger whore in the original?

Byleth still drags the story down. The only route in which I found Byleth semi-bearable is Lions after time-skip. Mainly because the story has no focus on you at all and Dimitri basically develops on his own while you are just there observing. As much as otomes like to meme that you heal Dimitri, you actually don't. You are just there. If anything gets him "healed" it's death of Rodrigue and even that was re-written from what seems to be original script judging by cut-content.

jap zero is less "loud", presents herself in a more mature way that plays off with the other characters. but localizer were scared the zany sidecharacter would steal the show from zero so they upped her attitude.

the best comparison i heard was our zero is like a bossy big sis compared to her sister while jap zero is more like a mother.

What a based series and discussion too bad this and Vagrant Story will never get HD remakes

The goddess ending is one of my favorite Bad Ends in vidya.

I was really disappointed when Drakengard 3 wasn't a continuation of that ending, with all the talk of goddesses.

>Brainlets are already calling Edelgard as Hitler and nazi and she isn't even that extreme, or bad in fact.
A shame, I'd join her if she was that extreme/bad

I still think there is nothing more Kino in vidya than getting ending B in Drakengard, fighing the boss, actually read and pay attention to the lyrics of Growing Wings, and then getting ending C to understand the implications true meaning of the song.

>That guy who looked for a solution to the audio problems in Drakengard because he thought the emulator was fucking up

Isnt the true ending a bitch to get?

Is it wrong that I find freaky Seed abomination Furiae hot?

>Kino

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She IS hot. But I also find the Drowned girl from Drakengard 2 hot.

Why do you think she's hot?

Hilarious

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Bump!

Come on anons, you c-can do it! D-don't let the thread die now!

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Hello Laura.
I hope you have a nice day.

only if you are bad @ vidya

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I am ;_;
Post more Zero plz

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>Make him a wyvern lord
>Get all other party members from the team killed
>Watch him solo everything
It was nice

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>he doesn’t know

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Thanks user! You too!

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Just started Drakengard 1. Gameplay seems to be a lot better than what I thought from what I heard, is the gameplay just considered a slog?

Yeah, people just don't like the sluggishness. Honestly the game only gets frustratingly bad during chapter 4 but everything else is smooth sailing for the most part

Memes
It’s not great but people like slurping down what they’re told

How long is Drakengard 1? I'm running out of 5 ending autism juice.

If you abuse the sprint attack it can be beated in two hours

I got all the endings within a week and definitely use a guide to collect the weapons because some of the triggers for them are retarded and I don't know how players would have found them back then

It's just tedious, especially to get the final ending

Like 15 hours if you get an ending E save off the internet
Otherwise half your lifespan

Fuck the aerial missions though
I can't do the collect all weapons bullshit. I got Nier's B ending then didn't have a save to buy weapons off that guy in the Aerie without replaying from scratch so I said fuck it. I know I should've bought the weapons as I came across them but I was busy skewering niggas with my OP spears

>beated

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dumb frozen potato

>to buy weapons off that guy in the Aerie
the guy in the Aerie doesnt have a unique shop so he never had weapons for me
>replaying from scratch
what do you mean? You always start from saving Kaine

That's too much for me, can't do it over and over, have to have breaks between playthroughs

if you skip cutscenes you can run it in like 2 hours though, especially because of how amazing spears are. Even on hard mode spear crushes everything and makes the game a breeze.

>He hasn't memorised Nier

I just need to know where all the weapons are and I'm good

nier.fandom.com/wiki/Weapons_Collector
you're probably missing one of the ones lying around/that you get from a quest

Go ahead and show me how much you actually remember

>nier.fandom.com/wiki/Weapons_Collector
huh I might be closer than I thought

there arent that many, unlike Drakengard which has a fuck ton and most are worthless

So Caim is Red Eye right?

Id say so yeah, I dont think every instance of Red Eye was him though

Yeah I couldn't get Drakengard 3's weapon behind a request mission, combat bracers only

Well to be honest I don't remember too much but:
>WEISS YOU DUMBASS intro
>Starting bit in the shopping centre
>Early bit in village
>Meeting everyone
>Kill the boar
>Popola tells you to go to the temple for Yonah
>Battle with those Gurren Lagann looking guys
>Meet Weiss
>???
>Go to Seafront
>Do the fishing quest
>Do the old lady quest
>???
>Go to spooky mansion
>Meet Emil
>Go to Aerie
>Meet Kaine
>Deliver a letter to the Aerie
>That giant shade attacks the Aerie
>???
>Go to Facade
>Meet the soon to be wife
>Fuck up the wolves
>???
>Go to the factory and do the stuff for the brothers
>Kill Beepy
>Brother dies
>You kill Emils sister
>Emil turns into skeleton
>???
>Shade attacks Niers village
>Emil petrifies it in the library
>Kaine gets petrified
>Time skip
>Nier gets an eyepatch
>???
>Go to the forest of dreams
>Do the text adventure
>???
>Go back to the factory, I forgot why
>Guy in Facade is getting married
>Wolves fuck the wife up
>You fuck the wolves up again
>???
>Aerie is getting fucked up again
>Emil nukes it
>???
>???
>Go back to temple where you met Weiss
>Discover Kaine has a shade inside her at the ball
>Giant boar is after you
>Facade guys stab it
>Emil bubbles himself
>Kaine gets pissed
>???
>Weiss gets brainwashed by Crimson (?)
>Kaine does her speech
>???
>Nier kills Shadowlord
Lot of gaps in there

It's a gas station you fool!

Very impressive user

Pact with RedEye or a Grimoire ASAP, barring that has the right idea.

I'd say its worth it. There's a lot in there that fleshes out what you'd get in a super spoilery review. Also the music is fucking godtier and more immersive when you're actually playing.

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is there any piece of media that is as haunting as Drakengard 1? I need a fear boost rn and /x/ has let me down the last few years

devilman crybaby

Metro 2033 was so scary it gave me night terrors
Fatal Frame is also so spooky I haven't gotten past the first 10 minutes
Unironically a good suggestion

As a kid, Return to Castle Wolfenstein did it for me

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You can always look for some narrated SCPs, there are some very good ones out there.
youtube.com/watch?v=bHX1-yEr2zg
youtube.com/watch?v=QWI2vDLVC0A

Don't care for the game but the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Watched it. read the manga when I was 14. been there done that
same with metro
PUSSY
i'll check these out

They were just kids dood what the hell

they needed to go

You talking about jap or eng? The two replies to your post are split.
For me, it's jap. youtu.be/MsrFtzQra9c?t=5846

Go to the catacombs with a straight face ya cunt, I dare you

yeah thats pretty much it man well done

Oh so I wasn't the only one. It really made a 9 year old me piss the bed.

can take pretty long training up those weapons and fulfilling what you need in certain missions. I think I got it in a week playing on and off but pretty much all of my free time was put towards it.

It's more sad than bad to me.
All of the pieces are there for a fun combat system, with tons of unique weapons and spells, but the implementation is horrible.
It could have been so much better with just very slight tweaks like mana not being tied to each weapon. Which even would have been easier to do than what they did.

335 replies and not a single Four posted yet, what the fuck

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shes a anti thot she can go to hell.

I unironically think the english voice acting is pretty great
especially for a turbojank ps2 game that everyone must have been thinking would fail
even caim's voice is pretty decent, and he's got like five lines in the game

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Cains entire script is like
>They're at the castle
>AAAAAAA
>AAAAA
>AAAA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Four is literally me wtf

I will never forget "EMPIRE RATS, YOU SHALL FEED THE RAVENS"
Amazing line and delivery

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Your post numbers disagree with you
This will be a 5 or I leave the thread

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Five is good too, I'll allow it

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You gotta post all sisters now bruh

>I'll save my time and just go for the canon ending that leads to Nier
>It's ending E
This question now interests me.

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You mixed up the order of meeting Emil and Kaine but that's some good deadication to the franchise user.

Meant to reply to I need to go to sleep.

Absolute territory best territory.

Fucking torturecore

So wait, what does Caim do to Mana after the game?

does caim's murder appeal come from the fact he doesn't speak? I feel like if he had done everything he did in drakengard 1, but spoke during it, he wouldn't have been anywhere near as good

If you mean before Drakengard 2 happens then he takes her on a sweet, lovely trip around the world to have fun since she couldn't enjoy her childhood

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Everything but Rape
Absolutely. Though it's also important to note if he was a silent protagonist from the beginning he would have been far less interesting.

You need to play 5 to find out what happened to 4.

This. Unlike Demon Furiae, Chaos Angelus is actually a pretty easy boss and she's the strongest dragon so it's definitely possible.

Rank 'em bitches
Zero>Five>Two>Three>Four>Cent>POWER GAP>One (Male)>One

I cant help but feel as if this is a lie. So he just just drags her around and torments her? Wow caim, there is killing legions of men women and children, but then there is bullying.

he brings her to every town, city, etc. he can find and pretty much tells everyone "wondering why the world got fucked up? all this girl's fault."

1) Attempt to make a pact with ANYTHING that isn't the Queen or Red Eye so they cannot force me into a pact.

Failing that, I'd probably go salty.

Dub Angelus sounds a lot more menacing than the Japanese one.

>You'll never have Zero as your momgf

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

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With who you make the pact is irrelevant, you simply cannot pact since you are from this dimension
Zero>five>one>two>four>garbage>three

I want to take care of and protect this whore.

>Oh man I should replay the Drakengards now the PS3 emulator works
>Start looking for a rom site that still works
>Realise I'd have to replay this
Suddenly I am no longer angry I can't find a Nier rom

She didn't deserve it brehs

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t. Decadus

Drakengard 1 was never meant to have bad gameplay. Taro has stated on the record that the game's being so terrible to play was a result of a lack of budget, time, and the fact that the team was following trends (DW was big at the time) but didn't have the experience in how to make a game of that genre. He has said that his biggest regret with that game is that it sucks to play because there's no point in the player being told that they're a monster for enjoying the mass killing if they hate every second of it and most likely quit the game before even getting to the point before they're told that.

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The music and the gameplay slowly drive you insane as you play it.

Start with 3 since it's the first chronologically.
Recently finished it, plays fine.

He's just wondering if he should murder her.
"Have a plan to kill everybody you meet." -Caim

What a great guy. Making something with Taro is going on my bucket list.

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It's nigh impossible bruh what are you on about

>and pretty much tells everyone "wondering why the world got fucked up? all this girl's fault."
How did he do that?

No one WANTS to make a bad game, because even a developer that wants to tell the player that they suck for enjoying it...still wants them to have enjoyed it. If you make a game no one wants to play, who does that benefit?

Wait. How -did- he do that?
Oh right, killed everyone and wrote in liberal amount of subhuman blood "Mannah is responsible for this"

I don't remember if it even got explained, I just assumed he put one of those "I did a very bad thing :(" sandwich boards on her and paraded her around town.

it gets tedious, especially if you're going for Ending E, which requires collecting all 65 weapons.

It's even MORE tedious if you upgrade all 65 weapons to maximum to read their weapon stories (the stories are like 75% great and 20% are just kind of ok. 5% are just terrible or weird)

I found Chapter 3 to be the worst, Chapter 4 is tolerable to me because of Verdelet's violent hatred for subhumans. Chapter 10 and 11 are both also pretty bad.

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How does her underwear even work

>underwear

>Was excited a real asshole "hero" like Caim was in, they pussy out halfway through.
>People upset he didn't pussy out SOONER.

MAn, they'll have a heart attack if they play Drakenguard.

I'd buy a Remake with improved combat.

And more murder.

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That ass was fat

>you simply cannot pact since you are from this dimension
Not true.
The entire salt or Legion thing comes from the Queen-Beast attempting to pact with humans. If they agree, they become Legions. If they disagree, they become salt.

Tyrann makes a pact with Kaine.

You can't have more than one pact, and all you require for the pact is a magical creature. Grimoires are magical creatures, as is Tyrann.

>Caim was subject to Angelous' tortured screams for three years as she was stuck in the seal and they were still linked.

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Sympathetic character, I too wish to fuck dragons

They became salt due to that chlorine-esque chemical

I can't make Drakengard 3 running on my pc. I'm on loading screen with 1fps and a lot of errors. I saw people running it on worse PCs in 4k so I'm not sure what wrong am I doing.
I tried almost all configurations, reinstalling game, clearing caches and still the same error. I'm on i5-4690k and 1080. Previously I could launch it and played until the pissing scene but still had some problems with game. After swapping to 0.6 from 0,5 it takes on hour to get past unrealengine 3 logo.
Should I just download different game release or try even more configs?

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Whats Taro working on nowadays?
Nier 3?

This guy isn't nice at all, he is a psycopath and probably a dragonphile....

mobile gacha shit

You have got to be kidding me

>and probably a dragonphile....

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No.
Maso is literally pieces of the Queen-Beast. Contact with it makes it attempt to force a pact.
Accepting the Pact makes you Legion.
Rejecting it = Salt Time

humans in Drakengard are the same as Real World humans. They both lack magical ability, and can only earn it by forging a pact with a magical creature.

XIV raid

Did you think he'd get Automata's funding for FREE?
No, he needs to sell his soul for a few years.
Thus, SINoALICE.

Also, he's working on the FF14xNier Automata crossover event.

Furiae Furiae Furiae Furiae Fu-ri-ae Fu-ri-ae Fu-ri-ae

Zero>Five>One>Two>Three>>>>Four>>>>>Brother One

Drakengard is one of the best written series I have ever played, including Nier, but holy shit what I wouldn't give for a Drakengard 1+3 remaster on PC so that 1 is not as limited and messy to play and 3 goes above 15 fps.
WHY DIDN'T TARO ASSOCIATE WITH PLATINUM TO MAKE 3

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And if there was a remake, maybe in route A, some more moments with Caim and Angelus.

Taro has always had 450 projects going at once in all kinds of media possible.
SINoALICE is actually pretty decent as far as mobage goes.

Too bad she had to split.

buttery smooth 10fps is not fine, but I get your point.

>Did you think he'd get Automata's funding for FREE?
but the thing sold like hotcakes

Hitler had a charisma that Edelgard completely lacks.
Punished Dimitri is the only way to go

buy a ps3 and drak3. both are pretty cheap

He probably didn't get much out of it, he's just a creative director and writer, Platinum probably got 70% and Onions Enix 20% with a deal that he owes them 10 billions so now he has to work in the tranny mines.

>underwear

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>not waiting for the inevitable total remake multiplatofm release of 1 and 3 on a single disc

nigga

FFXIV 2P raid
new gaem soon

just use RCPS3.

Download different release.
My oldass i7 2600K + 1060 has no problems 1080p the game. It just takes a while to build a decent Shader library, but it will help.

Was platinum's involvement really that much?
The gameplay was generic B team buttonmasher a la Korra/TMNT/Transformers, something literally any studio can do

love it, one cunt posts a pic of caim and we get 417 replies. good Yea Forums still exists

Real talk, it is a fucking miracle we even got Automata at all.

It's a miracle it sold as well as it did.

So was Drakengard 3.
Can you tell me technically Automata isn't miles better than 3?

How to get big dragon mommy gf??

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I remember when it was announced, shit was wild
Not only a new Taro game, not only a sequel to Nier, but gameplay by Platinum as well.
Stars aligned for that one, jesus christ

Better yes, miles ahead i think not, automata is much easier than drakengard 3, simply because the godawful implementation of the dodge mechanic, way too generous

No 2B ass either, great

>probably a dragonphile
how is that a bad thing?

Who cares about difficulty

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I do actually, i can't take bosses seriously if they don't present an actual threat

who fucking cares about difficulty in Taro's games? they literally visual novels with basic gameplay

probably because most of old/v/ loves it, while the current doesn't even know what it is and their best knowledge is automata as a weebshit game, which they never touched.

>Taro's games
>they literally visual novels
that feel when not sure if b8 or just a moron.

Anyone will admit that theyre playing for the story quality and not the gameplay quality but saying theyre "VN's with basic gameplay" is pretty absurd

Drakengard 1 and 2 can actually get pretty hard at points, especially early game 1 when you don't have any broken weapons and NG++ 2 where everything kills you in 2 or 3 hits.

The combat is always so simplistic that pressing X to roll the text or input a combo feels equally dull. Platinum managed to make things a bit more interesting at least.

That still does not make them into "visual novels", ya underaged brainlett. And I dare you to beat the [E]ndings of DoD1 and 3 without cheating.

>call others brainlets while being a cheater
okay bruv

How long do you think Caim survived in ending B

What did you guys think of Drakengard's soundtrack? Shit legit fucked with me for a bit, and that ending song made me feel uneasy as fuck, but I loved it anyway.

>get urge to relive DoD/NieR (not Autamata) experience
>remember the gameplay for every single one of them
Taro pls fix.

Died almost immediately since they all presumably can do the sword thing.

DoD 1 = NieR > N:A > DoD 3 = DoD2

He isn't a dragonphile, that's the most compelling part of his romance with Angelus. He grew to love her despite what she was. They bonded together eventually over mutual hatred of the world they lived in and in time it morphed into something larger than that.

Aerial music is legitimately good but the ground music loops too fast to be enjoyable and quickly becomes droning and annoying instead of chaotic/atmospheric/whatever.

No user, you see the gameplay is suppose to be shit to enhance your experience.
I don't know why but this is probably the funniest gameplay myths I've heard. Who came up with this?

fascinatingly disturbing
youtu.be/A1gVwUDz0Ts

Nier is not that bad

would Caim and Zero fight or fuck

>or

All thanks to based Yosuke Saito

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It's not bad but it and DoD 3 are definitely mediocre.

So I started playing this shit a couple days ago think I'm almost done with chapter 2. The gameplay combined with the music is slowly driving me insane and I can only play it in short bursts. What the fuck is wrong with yoko taro?

Caim wouldn't cheat on Angelus
He's Taro's biggest fan, we're puny compared to him

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yes

Nier is great once you get phoenix spear everything dies in 1 or 2 hits. Even before that some of the spells are fun even if it is rather clunky. Drakengard 3 would be a lot better if it was a stable 30fps.

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>Nier is great once you get phoenix spear and everything dies in 1 or 2 hits
It's not great, user, it's bearable and repetitive once you finally get the best weapon.

I think it's one of the best soundtracks in videogames of all time. It doesn't just enhance the atmosphere or sets the tone, it screams out its message at you instead, which is exactly how it should be with Drakengard. But even on its own it's a fantastic piece of experimental dissonant music.

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I enjoyed it.

The music is unironic repetition kino youtube.com/watch?v=vEDNjZRdbSE

>I was really disappointed when Drakengard 3 wasn't a continuation of that ending, with all the talk of goddesses.
Thought it was implied that Zero's giant salt body becomes re-animated as the giant goddess queen thing

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>pubes

fucking love this slut

They should be white.

Nah, the ending of the final route in Drakenguard 3 means the the first game doesn't happen and the Angels/Watchers don't have a way in.
The White Flower is truly gone and while Zero might reincarnate down the like as Mikail hopes, the world won't fall apart since the chain of events that lead to Caim going completely mad never happens.

But the Black Flower still exists and as long as it does the world will never be safe.

>tfw no sequel to DoD 1's Ending C
Fuck, that would've been kino.

the only irredeemable fact about caim is really that he didn't fuck his sis before her death.

I would like that too.

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Caim definitely enjoyed murder, but he could distinguish friend from foe and he never friendly fired besides kicking a stupid elf and he never betrayed anyone either. He wasn't a full blown villain like Luca Blight for example.

i really like this

This is pretty good!

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Give it up for the biggest Chad in Drakengard
The sisters are Devola and Popola

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Mankind killed his waifu.
He killed mankind.

GIWTWM

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Huh, a weapon story that doesn't end horribly, how bout that.

What a baller

You could count those on a single hand in Drakengard.

What a goddamn chad

Whoever that bard was, he knew he was in a Yoko Taro game and decided that he couldn't let this end badly.
What a fucking hero.

Stage 1 on the ground is perfection though.

youtube.com/watch?v=NocSlsBJHxY
F E E D T H E R A V E N S

>Nah, the ending of the final route in Drakenguard 3 means the the first game doesn't happen and the Angels/Watchers don't have a way in.
Um...no. In all endings Brother One survives, he is unseen in most endings, to then be able to make the cult of the Watchers. It's one of those "the game was rigged from the beginning" type things, because even if Zero kills herself & all her sisters, Zero never realizes that One made a male copy of herself that hides from Zero, and the flower lives on in him. Thing is, the flower in Brother One is watered down because it's a copy of a copy. There was a nasty comic that follows the story of Brother One as he tries to kill the people going crazy from the flower
mangadex.org/title/9572/drag-on-dragoon-shi-ni-itaru-aka

I think the "official" timeline that branches into Drakengard 1 isn't any of the game's timeline, or the comics, but a story released in one of the books that combines most of the endings but in a specific way.

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LEONARD WAS A PEDOPHILE
LEONARD WAS A PEDOPHILE
LEONARD WAS A PEDOPHILE
LEONARD WAS A PEDOPHILE

i dont think he actually touched a child tho

I always liked how the first line of dialogue in the Taro universe is "It begins"
It's possibly the understatement of the millennium

Honestly, the moment she says that she has to kill her sisters and Caim learns that said sisters are leaders of a world-wide cult, a very dangerous alliance is formed.
Honestly its a win-win since Caim would probably be fine with killing her.

wah man you're so cool please fuck me

Is this the land of the gods?

Someone in a comment pointed that "Is this the land of the gods?" followed by "Tokyo", is the dream of otaku everywhere and I can't get that thought out of my head

Huh, a weapon story that doesn't end horribly, how bout that.

He has great taste in waifus. Angelus is the best girl in the Taroverse.

>Must you slaughter so many?
>Is that a joke question?

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What does it say on the ground in front of Angelus?

Resisters Shall Land in Hell

>Here is best girl.

>She travels through time and between the Drakengard and Nier timelines kicking ass

I'd play it.

何なのだ、これは!どうすればいいのだ?!

Ah hai hai Answer desu

I was listening to the Nier Soundtrack on Youtube and the picture for the video had Nier: Replicant and Nier: Gestalt

It made me think, how cool would it be for a video game to have two discs, both with their own stories, but both discs effect the other.

Has this ever happened? Evergrace kinda had it
Or at least I assumed it did, I got stuck like an hour in

obligatory Drakengard image

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>tfw actually found this on Panda
Little farewell gift to all the DrakeNier fans and their neat nearly 24h thread.

exhentai.org/g/965282/eff7b19dfd/?p=1

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Weapon stories are my favorite parts of drakengard/nier

>Everyone is a dick
Not the baby obsessed woman and that blonde kid who summons golem though

This image is wrong. The music is great and the gameplay is a mediocre musou. It's not shit. People here are way too fucking spoiled, they haven't played games with actual shit gameplay that are rendered near unplayable by how bad it is.

I can't remember the name but it was a three disk puzzle adventure on the PS1.
The third disk has a puzzle that needed you to go back to the first disk to get something and solve the puzzle.

In the japanese script they explicitly tell the player that the only reason he survived the village burning was because he took 3 kids with him to the woods to fuck them in the ass.

Was it Riven?

I thought it was because he went to the forest to jerk off.

I'm sure it has happened, but looking at the "Replicant" and "Gestalt" titles made me think of it. I don't think it would have a place in modern times with digital games being the norm but back then I think it would have been a really cool mechanic. Here's the thing though, you could effectively play through one game and complete it without touching the other. In fact, to really break the 4th Wall or whatever, the game could've been marketed as something you could buy for you and your pal/partner/buddy whatever. You buy the game and give them one of the discs.

I'm not sure how it could work out though, I just thought it would be an interesting mechanic. I haven't thought it completely through.

Woops, this response at was meant as a reply to

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It might've been user.
I was maybe six at the time when I played it and it was my dad that figured the puzzle out for me.
My mind was blown because before that point all I'd played was Medievil.