Shine 2019 - Smash Bros Tournament

>leffen planning to drop out of losers tomorrow.

nice

MKLEO
DOWNLOADED

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Holy fuck do the rats not lose to any character in this bloated cast?

This isn't on /vg/ why?

MODS?!?!

LETS GO ESAM

Are you a newfag?

stfu

They lose hard to small characters, the worst being G&W.
Also Swordies like CHROM and Lucina

>Pikachu beats Joker
LMAOOOOOOOO

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I want ESAM to win so much, but zzleo is just gonna abuse his dlc again. Literally Hbox

Why is Pikachu's back air so cute?

based melee chads discussing the greeks
while ultimate zoomers shit themselves

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Leffen is such a fucking baby.

Everyone post ESAM heads of good luck to give him power

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i feel like esam just has a mentality problem.

Imagine taking the Esampill.

Couldn't be me. Ppl tooked that shit during S4 era and somehow believed Pika was Top 5.

Why? Leo is the better player. He should win.

>ESAMfags
Based Leo making the bald basedboys seethe.

>people still think Leo is being carried by Joker
he's literally the only Joker player doing well in tourneys

Pika had top tier Jank which was more than enough honestly.
Dumb edgecancel quick attacks, glad they got removed

>armpits

Yes please

is Joker the best top tier?
>Has to work to do damage
>Has to work for his kill
>the moment he is in arsene mode, everyone avoids him like plague and joker is forced to approach
>is fun to watch

Found the Soiboy

i love smash bros

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So many people still put Pikachu as top 3, if not the best character in the game, yet Pikachu gets worse results than the rest of the top 10.

>cool combo, thanks for the arsene :^)

NOOOOOOOOOOOO PIKA WAS SUPPOSED TO BR BUSTED FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK

That's because ESAM is his only top representative and he is very inconsistent. Pikachu is definitely top 3.

Reverse 3-0 incoming.

He still has to play Game 4 Leo

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That's because people are retarded enough to believe ESAM
Both Pika & Pichu for that matter have clear shortcomings & bad matchups, they're not Top Tiers.

clearly this is esam, but certainly not esam calvo. im thinking hes wearing a bald cap

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JESUS CHRIST ESAM

They clearly are top tier, you see any other top player disputing that fact?
No, retard.

More~

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Nice
Esam is the personification of faggotry.
Pikachu is braindead easy, extremely annoying and he still can't do shit lmfao

dont worry, esam will always choke when it matters most

AIRE NEUTRAL HASTA APLASTAR

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Very cool sam, now can you do that two more times?

>meme coloring

Needs to be updated with Capitan Zack & Los Leffos in F. Bump up El Quejarse too

>TOP PLAYERS SAID SO SO ITS TRUE
Do you have any actual arguments?

Leo is going to win no problem. He has inhuman stamina, everyone else gets tired in 3/5, he can reset the bracket and still play like it's the first game all the way to the last game.

>"user, sweety! Do you want Capri Suns or Sunny D?"
What do?

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>People who get paid to play the fucking game dont have worthwhile opinions on said game

Ok

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APOLOGIZE Yea Forums

holy shit pikachu looks like cancerm this is smash 4 all over again

that's true. I've never seen that little beaner get tired in long sets

has there been a tournament this year where Nairo didn't play against Marss in pools?

IS SOI GONNA DO IT?

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esam won't do this but imagine if he did

Esam is fucking rad

>Game 4 Leo
>Loss

He clearly just transformed into Esam Calvo this game though

>trusting the ultimate jobber

Hey lewd posting is cool and all but can you keep it related?

so this...is the power...of onions....

Esam will lose he's more nervous than MkLeo

>ESAM
>Winning

im not sure if you understand what pools are

Esam and choking go together like bacon and eggs

>see MKLeo up 2
>go do something else
>come back
>2-2

what the fuck

If leo loses Ill fap to pika libre tonight

Esam was literally shaking and walking around and you think he has the nerve to win game 5

ESA is wining this free

I wish Zelda was my girlfriend

GAME 5 MKLEO MODE ACTIVATED

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>Beat final boss's 4th phase
>He has another one.

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Come on LEOOOOOOOOO

>Leo missed 2 techs
Is he shook or something

I like how he plays except for the counter and I also wish he was another character, not le epic student fagkek from persoina series.
Thank you

CHOKE INCOMING
ESAM CHOKE IS INCOMING

kek

CHOKECHOKECHOKECHOKECHOKE

JAJAJAJJAJAJAJA GET FUCKED BALDKEK

Is Hungrybox the Sonicfox of Melee?

>MKLeo's giant fucking mexican brain
can't beat it.

>Quick attack is the best tool in the game from ledge
>rolls on anyway like a retard
why?

fuck....

mkleo is a sadist. nothing gets him harder than giving people false hope and then crushing them

Top 10 posts that aged badly

Posts that predicted the future, are aliens among us?

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MkLeo is literally a fucking choking hazard every time.

>be leo
>have to lose a few game vs scrubs or people just hate you

DLCARRIED

Thank god, pikachu is fucking cancer
>grab, d-throw, nair, nair, nair, fair
>bair into backair into backair

Post more ass

ultimate is boring leo is the only good player. Melee always wins baybeeeee

Funny thing is, as dangerous MKLeo is this is still peanuts compared to how dominant Smash 4 Zero was if I remember correctly.

>hax gets cucked out of another top 8 at a major
please no

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>NERF ARSENE
didn't even need it, kids

You post this pic everytime man do you have new stuff

>no pubes
yike

Fuck, I hate ESAM so fucking much.

Smash 4 sucks

Better for oral desu

>meleefags even dare say something like this when hbox is ready to take another tourney as he has done 90% of the time in the last 2 years
melee will surelly have "exciting" and "fun" grand finals buddy ;)

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I swear if nairo loses

based
pubes sticking out of clothes is the thinking man's fetish

Everything else is very very lewd, questionable to mods, or too large to post cause I only save the highest quality version of every image I see or I will find it.

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Ugh this thread fucking REEKS. Get off Yea Forums and take a shower

Nairo is Marss's bitch. This is the easiest match to predict.

>lord of clutch vs chokesam in game 5
Over before it started.

When will Nairo stop playing palutena?

Boost Kick is so powerful
I wish Doc's UpB was this powerful

cry more bitch nigga lmao

Last time hbox got completely bodied by based leffen two times in a row, cope sweetie

when she stops being good, he already commited to her.

This, everything links effortlessly, like a more annoying palutena.

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NickC is a fucking monster

Well Smash 4 was a brand new game, whereas Ultimate is just 4 refined. Ultimate has been much more competitive early on compared to other Smash games because everyone's really proficient already.

shut up nigger

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Never. Palutena is top 5 and anyone who can't see that is braindead.

Can you please at least post smash girls

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

clips.twitch.tv/GracefulHelpfulSmoothiePunchTrees
Is nickC better then fatality?

Joker has his jank too, but is nowhere as bullshit as PIkachu/Pichu, is ho-ha all over again.
Joker stuff is more reads than anything desu.

>be nairo
>fall for early ultimate palutena meme
>everyone else drops her
>has to play against his old main and lose
playing marss must take an emotional toll on nairo huh?

He thinks ur a nigger too

Fatality is a cuck and just got dropped by his sponsor.

So.....yes?

Palutena isn't what she used to be, but it's not like she's shit or anything

Nairo abou to get cucked again by marss, he needs to work on this MU

Probably yeah
NickC & Nishiya are at least as good as Fatality

Yeah sure just point to the next ZSS main that wins majors

MARS LITERALLY CANNOT LOSE THIS GAME. IT JUST WILL NOT HAPPEN. SCREENCAP THIS

its hard to work on a matchup vs a character that can easily escape disadvantage with a single input

What about based Ogey

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>Flip Kick alone is a mid-tier character
heh

sage, fucking kill yourself.

...Wrote while posting sakimichan.

Zero also managed to get a hot gf and 10k twitch subs despite being an obese manchild. MKLeo is basically a less developed version of him, kid should take notes.

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Does anyone else get hard as fucc hearing Palutena's voice clips? She always sounds like she's moaning.

The funiest thing about this shitfest is that Nairo always supports Marrs. Literally the biggest cuck in the comunity.

Ogey is fun & cool but until he stops SD-ing trying to style on people i'm not sure.

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Go outside, waifufag.

It's time

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>hot
That's pretty generous user.

didnt you know leo has a harem of kpop idols?

>loses to Marss

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Whats the set count for Marss vs. Nairo

listening to all her groan from getting hit all the way to her KO scream in sound test makes it sound like she's climaxing pretty hard

Leo has a girlfriend, cuck.

>Two Palus on stream

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>They're both losing
Based

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>3-0
Nairo should kill himself.

like 1-9

Nairo can't play on tilt. This will be an easy game 3 for Marss. His salt after game 2 was palpable.

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Proof?

is ZSS a bad MU for Palutena or is Nairo just washed up?

why is nairo so stubborn about using palu in tournament, he used to have plenty of counterpicks

he doesn't. Mkleo is just a shut in weeb.

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What did I miss?

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Hes pretty good at losing Mu's too. Hes too crazy though.

stupid “LE WAIFU” meme, literally all it is. hopefully he drops that whore for banjo cause of how much he likes him

When will Nairo stop playing palutena?

Marrs is has beaten MKLeo before, so more than anything, Marrs is faaar better than nairo.

yea but zero had a 56 tourney win streak. That's some insane consistency

Being a dedicated main is optimal

youtu.be/75J3W-Brdtc
4:06

8-1
liquipedia.net/smash/index.php?title=Special:RunQuery/Match_history&Head_to_head_query[player]=Marss

Nairo sucks Marss's cock on daily basis.

Looks like a horse from behind in the thumbnail

Banjo will be low tier, so no.

haha imagine going down on her

This ass.

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optimal until you're down 2-0, he should at least try something

Nairo is washed up
Leo almost lost t ESAM
now post more of Zelda's ass you whore

There's very little good art and who even cares man.
He needs to work on not being a faggot and getting the fuck off palutena.
3/10 without makeup 4/10 with
If you're going to talk about dominance, at least talk about the guy who didnt lose to a single player outside the top 5 for 9 years. I think Armada's lowest placing ever was 5th.
Zero didnt have real competition for years. He fucking sucks and was carried by diddy.

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How can Marss say that Zss is not good?

The bitch is so fast have so many good option

More games, more VODs to study

I don't know why he doesn't pull his wacky characters like Gano when he's down 2-0
Might aswell go for the wild card and hope for the best

WHY ISN'T NAIRO PLAYING HERO REEEEE

No you horny 12 year old, we don't.

It's a joke I'm pretty sure. At the very least he thinks she's high tier, not top tier.

>Saying that your main is good
Are you dumb?

He said on stream that he won't pick him up cause it's bad for his image and people would start calling him "RNG Nairo".

Any questions for MK Leo?

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it's a meme kek

Same reason he won't play Banjo: they're not top tier.

>dlc
>low tier
kek.

This is the ordered top tiers of ultimate
>Peach
>Pokemon trainer
>Wario
>Pikachu
>Joker
>Lucina
>Zss
>Palutena
>Snake
>Wolf
>Rob

>How can Marss say that Zss is not good?
He's memeing

Donde esta la biblioteca

He's done that against Marss before, it didn't work out well for him.

when a top player says a character sucks they're really saying please don't nerf my character

Nairo will be relevant again with Banjo. JUST WAIT.

Whats his practice routine like

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Que pedo wey, saludos desde Cuatro Chan.

A Rookie beating Kalvar is still the greatest thing in existence from this event. Marth players are the worst.

>looking at the melee bracket
>all of these literal whos and hbox

what the fuck went wrong?

He went to game 5 going ZSS, Wolf, Dark Pit, and I think Robin at some point.

Post it bitch

CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER!

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You havent looked at the top 100 list in a good while, have you?

Does he plan on using Chrom?

How were the hot pocket with cheese?

Not an easy feat too, Marth is easily Mario/Doc's hardest matchup

The sense of competition in melee has been declining since armada left

>plant
>roy in 4
>lucas in 4
>arguably corrin

Swordies in general dominate Mario hard

a or c

what happened to Void?

jobber

If you narrow it down to "paid dlc newcomer" none have been bad. Corrin was quite good, Cosmos did well with her.

huh
>hbox
>leffen
>s2j
>chudat
>hax
>sfat
>swedish

I gotta choose E or F chief. The point of stocking fetish is to not be able to see the feet, there's no point if you see-through it.

youtu.be/6H0Dwfiixqg
Here it is. I think it's notable enough to post.

Pichu carried him.

Fadeback aerial: the game

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>Thinking Plant is low tier after what Brood and Rai did.

DQ'd himself due to personal issues, apparently.

Fadeback aerials are easy to punish, just catch their landing.
>B-but I cant
Learn how

>>plant
Kek.

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GET ME SOME GOD DAMN YOOHOOS, NOT THAT CRAP
WHY DO YOU ALWAYS FUCKING DO THIS MOM, I ASK FOR YOOHOOS, AND YOU BRING ME CAPRISUNS. WHO THE FUCK EVEN LIKES CAPRISUNS, THE STRAW ALWAYS FUCKING BENDS WHEN YOU STICK IT THROUGH
EVERY FUCKING TIME

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Juul is getting a lot of mileage out of Fullhop aerial into another aerial as he's close to landing, Robin's moves have deceptively short endlag and Wizzy seems to struggle to adapt to it.

He just isn't the same after the Pichu nerfs.

exceptions are not the rule. he was just too good, that doesn't mean the character is top tier.

didn't notice leffen was on losers side. even so, the rest are a bunch of literal whos that constantly jobbed to the melee gods a few years ago

Anybody that can wall out Mario basically ends him, there's a reason the one and only time he was top tier was because he had braindead autocombos

Not top tier but definetly underrated. The spike ball is too good to call him low tier.

A and C
Based

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Mario was never top tier

I miss Juice.

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A, D, or F

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user why are you here? You obviously dont actually care about the tourney

>reading

Exceptions my ass. Brood beat multiple good Japan players. That character has untapped potential nobody else is noticing.

>switched to male robin

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>esam has to play tweek in losers immediately after losing to leo
wew lad that sucks

yes

nasty fat bitch.

Not in Ultimate, in 4

he's underrated but he's nowhere near as good as other character in the game.

Yeah you idiot, he wasnt top tier

Keep coping, Plantfag. He will never be higher than low tier.

Stop discouraging lewdposting butthole. It's not like we're going to hit image bump limit during top 64.

How the fuck do you get so far up your own ass to say something like this
twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1165453853854261248

this robin is fucking sick
i mained robin in 4, this is making me want to pick him back up

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Plant is more or less like Dedede, with their main strength being Ledgetrapping and their ability to press their Advantage if they get players near ledge & offstage. From there it obviously gets more different but I think the two's strengths kind of even out.
I'd give Plant a Lower side of Mid Tier rank at most. He's got a defined, working gameplan that requires more adaptation than Low Tiers.

Go to
Or any other read board if you wanna lewd post

twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1165455808035004416
jesus christ

>twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1165453853854261248
>Everything is shit
>Except for me

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Jesus Christ this Robin is totally outplaying Dark Wizzy but is losing to the game itself. So many fucking callouts but nope. A clear showing of how stupid airdodges are

He was S tier after the DLC finished but before Bayo came into full prominence

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>clearly outplaying opponent
>loses anyways
I think you made the right call

Agreed. im amazed the plant could beat all those players on japan, but thinking it through japan likes to use random ass characters.

Why is he more insufferable now?
What happened?

Fucking
You see Juuul doing all this cool shit but it means nothing against marios braindead uair combos

This is what I reaaally hate about Ultimate, cool shit is discouraged in favor of spamming a single move in neutral

piggy

Robin players have to try so fucking hard

A or A with stirrup stockings. Stockings are like sucking a dick that has a condom on.

Dark wizzy is a pretty lame player

I just wish I could not be Leffen sometimes.

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It's like that in other fighting games too, including smelee.

>thinking mario is braindead now
lol

Japan is content to play the extreme long game in matches and play extremely campy. America tends to frown upon that. It drives character decisions heavily.

I do care about it but this board isnt your hugbox so I would suggest you go back.
Cope.

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>Gets 70% off of spamming Uair > Uair >Uair > Up-B

POST MORE ASS

EGS Cup 2 is happening tomorrow and Brood is attending it, along with a bunch of Japanese talents. Since it comes later than Shine, maybe I can make threads about it on Yea Forums. We'll see if Brood can stay consistent.

Can I just ask you why you do this I dont even hate it I just find it so weird?

I think all top 7 matchups bar Sheik could be equally bad or worse. At least when Marth gets antsy for a kill he eats a decent amount of shit for it.

Watch Ho3K's streams on Twitch. They cave Xeno weeklies every Wednesday and every Regular that attended Shine made it to Top 64 pretty much. If Jul wins, both him and Nick C will make Top 12. That's the best and most hype Smash weekly i've seen. At least 6 of their regular attendants are some of the best players i've ever seen.

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>I'm not even ZeRo

Was that not best of 5

Mario has absolutely nothing going for him aside from his uair combo, every top tier shits on him

nice

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There's like an 80% chance he has the big gay and gets off to the idea of making other dudes hard, the method doesn't really matter.

>juuuuuls outplays wizzy the entire set
>pulls off cool combos and 500 iq plays
>it means absolutely nothing and he loses anyway
man i hate this game sometimes

Is Mario actually good or is Dark Wizzy carrying him?

Who designed marios frame data?

Welcome to literally all fighting games, Melee included.

As wrong as leffen is, he's actually right.

I dislike that Robin is a character that has a resource management gimmick despite not even having the strongest projectile game, aerials, or smash attacks while also being slow as fuck with literally zero low-percentage strings. It feels like Robin was made as a practical joke by the devs.

Mario is better than Robin

Robin needs some Quality of Life buffs

>heh nothing personnel, xir
>*Dumps out an instantaneous up smash*

mario got sauce.

I really hope they buff robin. That was so sick to watch. He totally deserved to win

I just imagine that somewhere in Japan there is a Robin player this good consistently beating Sakurai into a rage that makes him actively try to make Robin shit

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Robin is in dire need of buffs. His limited attacks should be much stronger than they are because they can fucking run out.

Nah. At mid level this is 100% true. At high level it's definitely Falcon. He has no real options to deal with a dashdancing Falcon and Falcon deciding to jump is way safer for Falcon. With marth you can sneak in ftilts and bairs. Marth's semi-floatiness allows him to get in. I mean in theory Doc can do grab shit to fastfallers, but good luck ever getting a grab high level as the Marios unless they straight up don't respect you. Falco is also tough because Doc has very little to contest dair.

but Robin would be cancer if he didn't have the resources, his projectiles are too good.

Eh, I think Marth has the easiest gameplan to beat Mario, you don't really need matchup knowledge as Marth to win the Mario matchup, it just is a simple matchup to understand. Maybe Peach I could also being as tough but characters like Falcon have to change up their Neutral a bit in the matchup & you can get a lot of mileage off of Spacies on some stages. Don't have experience on Puff so I can't really say.

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Rivals of Aether forces you to be cool in order to win

Friendly reminder that they nerfed Jigglypuff hard when Hbox told off Reggie for being shit at Smash

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Yeah but you have to be a furry.

thats based though

god falcon is a joke now

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Nah, just play bugman or lionbro.

Small price to pay for the best Marth clone

YOU'RE NOT NINTENDO... YOU'RE PRE-TENDO

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More Tatsumaki please

FUCKING EXCUSE ME??? NICK C?

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You were saying?

If nick beats this mu he is confirmed the best falcon.

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THE UPTILT

These guys just want Robin to be some braindead fucking character.

Peach is worse because Peach never gets edgeguarded and stuff like cc dsmash/turnips/float beats Mario’s approaches anyway. Watch A Rookie vs Bladewise. He gets Bladewise to 50 or so then has to nair him at 180.

>Falcon's best option vs a fucking MARIO recoverying is to stand at ledge and wait
Smash 4 repeat

No, he just needs to be better.

>Falcon gets knocked off and can be edgeguarded
>Mario just uses flood and maybe throws a fireball from nearly mid stage to no effect
>Mario gets knocked off and can be edgeguarded
>Falcon goes for the 2-frame meme and misses every time
And smashtards have the gall to claim Leo is winning because of Joker and not because he's the only person who doesn't FUCKING PLAY ULTIMATE LIKE IT'S TR4SH

So how is the game still lame?

he still a joke

>switches to the Mario Bros. artwork skin
>tranny emotes pouring in
Please Sakurai just put back the one from Melee.

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raffi eliminated that fat mutt stroder

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how is this tournament even S-tier
it feels like a northeast regional

900 people

This honestly, and leo just really connects with joker and people don't understand that. He always said how he didn't like Lucina and Ike

I agree that Peach is the long-game because Peach wins on trades due to recovery and you have to be super careful about dsmash. However, you can at least make her work. I'll never content that it isn't Falcon if they actually respect the MU. In general though from basic gameplan no prior MU it's probably something like Peach > Marth > Falco > Falcon > Sheik > Fox. If they know it's something like Falcon > Peach > Falco > Sheik > Fox > Marth

People are scared of being stage spiked because nobody knows how to tech.

It's ice mario from NSMB.

brawl mario sounds so disgusting

That guy is better than Fatality.

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sauce

If they still have DJ and airdodge and are above horizontal from the stage, most characters actually can't very well. Both of those characters can airdodge through a deep approach and have upBs that beat every aerial approach. It's fucking stupid. They can only beat them cleanly if they come in low or don't have resources. Thus they don't risk it and stand at ledge. I agree it's dumb as fuck.

I'm so foregone I recognize it. It's Asanagi's trap kantai collection doujin.

Joker's bair also beats a lot of recoveries cleanly and he can go SUPER deep, which helps a lot. A lot of characters simply can't go deep enough to tag characters pre-upB, and upBs are stupidly fucking safe for the most part

>Do literally anything at anytime during the stage
>Bowser, Chrom, Zero Suit, Captain Falcon and Cloud players: Bro u guys seen my Up B it's actually kinda sick check it out

Cloud's is the worst offender because the fucking hitbox hits SO far behind, jesus christ

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This.
>run off for edgeguard
>get hit by multihit upb and don't tech the last hit
>get caught by a spiking/suicide/kill recovery move
>avoid both but trade advantage/disadvantage states
There's very few characters that can edgeguard like Joker can. His tether and counter helps get around almost every recovery with a hitbox.

don't forget the belmonts

Leffens having a mental breakdown on twitter.

Reversals working as intended just like in any fighting game. You'd think this playerbase would learn after Smash 4 Bayo's Witch Twist

No you don't undastrand Lobin ras verry scrawny when i played awakernin, he was very slow and had low magic this is true i had to make him canon to his power

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If this game required sweetspotting it would be hilarious.

Kirby too.
I do it as Corrin even though it isn't as good.

What a Twitter tier post.

I feel like Falcon is like a few slight buffs away from being high tier. He just needs a few QOL improvements.

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If he got popular people would get good at exploiting his long dash animation.

Yo is NickC up 2-1 or is the score wrong?

His movement just needs to be fixed. Why is his initial dash so bad

Imagine if you had to sweetspot but 2framing still existed too. This game would be a fuckfest at the ledge.

Falcon players have been saying this for over two decades. That exact same line has been said since 64 was new. I respect the dedication.

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yeah and shulk and kirby are literal gods
Do you even know what balance is?

>Falcon building the comeback with sick conversions
>LOLUPSMASHXDD

>complaining about canon stats in Smash
The only time people do this is when it's detrimental to their character. I'm so goddamn tired of Mewtwo niggers screaming about his weight.
Concessions are made in the name of balance and playstyle, get the fuck over it

Shulk can actually be the best at anything though what are you saying

holy shit this dudes are playing like is SMASH 4 GOD DAMN IT

WHY DOES MARIO NOT HAVE LAG?!?

>His head is a sword.
>Literally doesn't even have the diving helmet excuse game and watch has.

Probably Ultimate's biggest overall sin is how difficult it is to whiffpunish so many things. Just buffer those spotdodges/rolls/airdodges or in the case of something like usmash, do whatever you want.

This whole game doesn't have endlag.

A LOT of moves in Ultimate are like this. It's frustrating when stuff clanks when it shouldn't or randomly gets invincibility or super armor. Luigi's down B is a perfect example of retardation

thats not my point though.

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because his range is fucking garbage

Holy shit fuck Pikachu.

>Spams the same projectile over and over in neutral and advantage
>Literally can hit you with any attack it's a combo
>Can grab you for fucking free and it's a kill confirm
>Can spam anything and it can't be punished
>Free recovery

Thank god I only ever have to worry about ESAM playing this obnoxious character. Why is every top tier character just obnoxious and unfun? Can you guys name one top tier who is actually fun to play or fight?

how lame i am so mad

there's your sick mario conversion

Darkwizzy is nuts

pikachu is the only top tier character that does that though.

Winners

MkLeo Joker vs. Marss ZSS

Dabuz RosalinaOlimar vs. Samsora Peach

Losers

Jakal Wolf (Samsora) vs. Dark Wizzy Mario (Raffi-X)

Blacktwins Pichu (Dabuz) vs. Raffi-X ROB (Nairo)

Nairo Palutena (Marss) vs. LeoN Bowser (Dabuz)

ESAM Pikachu (MkLeo) vs. Tweek WarioPT (Goblin)

That was such a flowchart combo

Thank you for your hard work, lewdposter.

that's what optimal Ultimate looks like.
it's just "faster" Smash 4, except slower because 3 stocks.

Actually, Luigi's down-b is like that because they nerfed the fuck out of its ability to recover.
It had to be useful for something

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What about Melee?

god darkwizy is so fucking boring

Melee is dead.

I asked MK Leo how he practices for that kind of skill.
He said "I just play, you know?"
I can't say I know that well, but I feel way more scared of Leo's potential now if he just plays the game for fun to be that good.

give me ONE example where it's wholly unwarrated.
Luigi's Invincibility was because it got its recovery ability neutered. Mario's is because his hurtbox literally grows with the move

no it isnt, this faggots were only waiting for a "punish" when it's clear they didn't want to attack first. Defensive options aren't as strong as smash 4, is just they were afraid.

If you whisper Falcon into a single joycon 3 times Falcon will always taunt after each stock once he lands on the ground.

Melee is dead.

Winners
Hungrybox Jigglypuff vs. iBDW Fox
moky Fox vs. S2J Captain Falcon
Losers
ChuDat IC's (iBDW) vs. Fiction Fox (moky)
Swedish Delight SheikFox (Hungrybox) vs. Hax Fox (S2J)
Llod Peach (Hungrybox) vs. SFAT Fox
Leffen Fox (moky) vs. Kevin Maples Fox (Swedish Delight)

Fatality cries at this mu and NickC makes it look even.

>luigi
its cool and dandy that is has invuln but its frame 1. Samus upb and marth/luci for reference doesn't even get invuln till frame3.

Mario is fine I've no qualms with him.

>western art

Where's Plup?

If Leo beats Marss and Dabuz beats Samsora, then Leo wins the tourney

And?

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Got really sick and self DQ'd

Dq. Was feeling sick

d-did he get bit by one of the ebola mosquitoes at the event

>Dabuz beats Samsora
Not gonna happen.

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>last tweet was 7 hours ago

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Pretty boring all around. Pools are the real tournament.
Natural talent is unironically real. Hard work can get you very far but not farther than people who have talent and also put in the work. That's okay though, because nobody has to be the best and it's likely that you're talented in something else, even if it's shitposting.

This, I like this

Anyone clip the end of the match?

You never count Dabuz's big brain out

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Why are people blaming the character for why they lost when they made it very far in the tournament and it was most likely lost because of mechanical skill?

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Who's complaining?

In the case of robin that's actually a shit character

He's like a psychopath. There's no restriction to his growth because he has no worry or fear. Even when he loses he just walks off stage the same way he would if he won.

>implying theres any chance leo loses

nah plups been sick since smash con caught something there. He thought about cancelling shine but they paid for his flight and gave him a footjob

How come Ultimate has 14 unique characters and Melee has a Fox in every match

I want the potential for these characters to win tournaments to be extant even though being buffed to high tier isn't going to make them consistently beat the top 4 and being in the top 16 is an extremely respectable position.

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>Artist is a chink

*rapes you*

Juuuul's mechanical skill is way, way ahead of most players, even some of the top brass. Robin is legit a terrible character

Literally almost every character in ultimate save for Little Mac and Kirby are viable because of the way balance works in that game
Melee was never patched and therefore there's a massive power gap between Fox and the rest of the cast.

Replace Kirby with King K

*teleports behind you*
you smell.....nice...

You know how nice it would be if my character could just run up and upsmash people like Fox out of completely nowhere and go unpunished for it? That would be really nice.

he seriously is, it was crazy
>all those wavelands and shit

At least K. Rool's won a notable tourney before.

fat crocodile is almost viable

King K won a major.

Yeah but if anything the dude proves the point that if his mechanical skill was amazing and he made it that far on a character that trash, that should amount to something. Robin can still be a shit character but the player is proving you can work with him to that level.

Fox is pretty easy to get a handle of when melee's base mechanics are already mastered and no one feels guilty playing Fox bcause he's sick as fuck and looks just as cool getting comboed as he does comboing.

How come there are billions of planets but only one has dumb faggots in it? Melee was monkeys on a typewriter and they accidentally wrote Infinite Jest. Its balance is a product of chaos. In essence, like that one ridiculously overpriced painting with the shit splattered all over it haphazardly in a big web, melee's metagame is like a product of god. Something that formed outside of human hands. Just as humanity happened to become top of the food chain, so too has fox.

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Complaining about smash ultimate Cloud..hilarious.

The up-b's obnoxious. I'm not saying Cloud's broken or top tier, but that move is obnoxious.

Of all of cloud's possibly overpowered shit, his up-b isn't one of them.

I didn't say it's overpowered either. I said it's annoying.

>Australian "tournament"
>notable
okay, friend.

-ly irrelevant tournament

It's a B-tier.

he should pick hero, can you imagine?

Melee's metagame happened because the people designing it were really good at their game

a b tier based on attendance numbers, not based on level of competition

Comfy

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He'd do worse.

>leaving glitches in the final 8 months of development is considered "good design"
great logic

Still more than can be said for Kirby or Mac.

They left wavedashing in because it was fun.

i didnt realize egs was going on

I didn't say they were good designers, I said they were good at the game

top 16 at a stacked jap major is 10 times the accomplishment that winning any aussie tourney is

S-source?

Nefarox147 sounds like the kind of name that the "pro gamer" character in a daytime crime show would have

That, I like that..

Villager confirmed for being a pachinko degenerate

It would be nice if BTS hosted EGS

Robin isn't terrible. And many players actually think he's underrated

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clips.twitch.tv/ProtectiveColdbloodedSkirretRickroll

Why does he keep talking about pachinko?

They are just referring to the slingshot ball as a pachinko ball.

So says you.

thats so upsetting

I would have preferred the timeline where NickC won but I have to admit this was fucking sick

Wizzy was taking notes after Elegant pulled this on him

No he wouldn't. Robin is way more trash than Hero is.

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>all these robins i'm stomping on quickplay now
lmao he's too technical for you shitters

I'm excited for moky v s2j. They both looked on fire today and I'm hoping that transfers over to tomorrow

Robin is a more consistent character and thats all that matters. You can post as many twitter clips of Hero thwacking people at 0 as you want, but in a real tournament setting, having a consistent moveset matters more than quickdrawing.

What is a shulla-bra and why does it make your eyes irritated

nanchan went too deep

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consistent != good
a character can be incosistent and still be considered good.
There are no good hero's yet so we don't know Hero true potential YET.

stream link twitch.tv/eastgeeksmash

Nerf Stinkling

>Geki is 楽
>楽勝の楽
He's saying that kentaros is free. The japanese bantz

lol I thought the Japanese smashers were polite

only when they travel

Smash bros you need to get in here NOW

discord.gg/N25dFQ4

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discord.gg/N25dFQ4

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Go to a different site if you don't like anime tits.

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There's nothing wrong with anime tits but like at least have some kind of input this isn't a dump thread not that it matters anymore

>We MISTA now
WOW!

Slut

Having played against them in Splatoon and Smash, I really like japanese players approach to vidya. It's always so clean and sensible. Western players play so chaotic and pridefully it's kind of annoying.

>joker
Fuck his shit up Lickypiss

Fug I was expecting neat Corrin tricks but it looks like mine is pretty optimal and I just suck at the game.

corrin players will nair and fair you the entire neutral and then tell you that corrin "isnt really a sword character"

マニアな男ですね(笑)

That corrin sucked, joker read him like a book

???????
Corrin is 100% a sword character what the fuck are you smoking?

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Zeldafags give your power to Kisuke!

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exactly my point, some corrin players think that nothing would change if corrin didnt have a sword, lmao

Actually Corrin without a sword is still a sword character.

*lance character

wtf zelda is broken

KISUKE WON GET FUCKED JOKER SHITTERS

A lance character is a sword character. Anyways you should fight me instead, I use F smash constantly in neutral even if it gets me killed because I'm a lanceaboo.

Please understand

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what are you guys watching?

Japan said ZSS was the best in the game, is that true?

I wish Salem would stop meming with Hero.

Yeah it was much better when he was just a mediocre player who never did anything of note besides make himself look retarded compared to the only other smash player that rivals his retardation

Don't you have a leffen sub to renew?

Don't you have to go try and justify why Salem no longer gets results without the most overpowered smash character in history carrying him?

やか will beat ひかり, I can feel it in my bones.