I never had this happen to me before, i think I'm hating this game more than that trash fire God Hand. I played it before and hated it and now it's all coming back to me as to why.
Everything in this fucking game is a gimmick. The sections go from one gimmick to another, the combo system feels like a gimmick, the mechanics feel like gimmicks, everything. Instant kill QTE's out of nowhere, enemies attacking you immediately after a cutscene ends, telegraphs that make no visual sense as to what the attack will be without extensive prior knowledge, game is littered with attacks that are completely unreasonable as far as reaction times go, no healing without items to lower your ranks, combat is a visual fucking mess with effects everywhere. I'm only at chapter 9 or 10 and i am already struggling to find motivation to keep going, much less do the higher difficulties. Good thing this shit was cheap but at this rate it might be the only action game i ever drop, I'm just not having any fun whatsoever and can't make sense of anything.
>Hates Bayonetta and God Hand I cannot possibly fathom having such bad taste
Julian Richardson
Dilate
Jaxson Howard
It's epic
Henry Price
Agreed. People only like it because they're Nintendo fanboys.
Luke Lee
The only inarguably trash part is the qtes
Angel Carter
Fuck off hivemind faggot, post a copy pasted 3x3 if you want to fit in with the other drones.
Adrian Mitchell
I was here before the git gud crowd arrived
Lucas Williams
cool blog retard
Mason Stewart
still on par with dmc5 imho. OP have a you mate, though you don't deserve it lad.
Easton Murphy
>I don't like posts about video games on Yea Forums
Leo Hill
This. And the only two minigame sections in the game (three if you count the turret in the very last level) last too long.
One of the GOAT action games aside from those.
Samuel Russell
>I wish OP just posted "cringe". That would have been incredibly insightfull
Jonathan Williams
I can't believe i got these many garbage replies from these many people in so little time. Only absolute mouth breathers left on this board, couldn't talk about video games to saver their lives.
>ascended elder tier not with the forced v missions
Luke Campbell
all of the ones i layed besides God Hand and Bayonetta apparently.
Owen Nelson
I bet every single one of you sucks absolute shit at this game
Brandon Gutierrez
>Shit on good game >Wonder why you're getting shit replies
Hmm peculiar isn't it
Alexander Bailey
I'll have you know that I beat the game on normal and only got Stone Medals on 8 chapters.
Chase Bailey
>enemies literally just stand there
Brayden Morgan
I'm sorry that you're so much of a literal child that you take video game criticism as a personal insult and are unable to reply to it on the same terms and without flinging shit around like an enraged chimp
Joshua Campbell
This is what i have been telling myself for 10 chapters but it dawned on me that i just am not enjoying the combat at all.
Noah Parker
S Rank run of Hell and Hell gave me new appreciation for Bayonetta 1 in a weird way. Holy fuck talk about ruining all the fun possible in the game. Hell and Hell S Rank is on par with DMC3's DMD was one of the worst experiences available in action games. Getting cheap shot over and over and over and over again in DMC5 having to sit through 10 minutes of loading screens made me appreciate Bayo a little more. The concept is the same if you want Pure Platinum, only Bayo doesn't make you sit through seven loading screens before attempting it again.
Jacob Jenkins
I think Bayonetta is a good game and I enjoyed it but for some reason whenever I see Bayonetta or any Platinum game in general I get angry. I get the same feeling with Trigger anime too. I don't know why, it feels weird. Does anyone else feels the same?
Ryder Phillips
So, none, you're just shitposting. Good to know, now fuck off.
Dominic Wright
Hey now, I blow dicks at this game and I still like it.
Jonathan Rivera
>the combo system feels like a gimmick, the mechanics feel like gimmicks, everything
I wouldn't be a problem if they weren't fucking instant kills. Imagine doing a pure platinum run on Infinite Climax and the thing that gets you is a split second QTE that you forgot about. There's no skill involved whatsoever.
Kayden Butler
Imagine being bad at bayonetta lmao.
Xavier Watson
>hasn't done pure platinum on infinite >tries to trash talk a game Yeah well not everyone is as shit as you user, most people seem to handle that just fine.
Carson Brown
Sounds perfect. Yea Forums loves DMC 3-5
Tyler Richardson
dmcfags are delusional
Anthony Gray
>Imagine doing a pure platinum run on Infinite Climax and the thing that gets you is a split second QTE that you forgot about If you're playing on Infinite Climax you're probably tuned in to the point where that wouldn't happen. I'd rather the QTE's weren't there, but again I don't think they're that big of an issue, certainly less so than people on Yea Forums claim.
Julian Sanchez
Sorry but I can't accept DMC3 being a tier above Bayonetta. Bayonetta legitimately gets better when you climb higher in difficulty, DMC3 objectively gets worse. Bayonetta's got a few odd quirks I'm not a fan of at all but I wasn't contemplating suicide playing NSIC like I was playing DMD on DMC3.
Noah Sanders
You want me to list every single fucking action game i played?
>Tai Fu Wrath of the Tiger >Soul of the Samurai >Onimusha 1 >Onimusha 2 >Onimusha 3 >Devil May Cry 1 >Devil May Cry 2 >Devil May Cry 3 >Devil May Cry 4 SE >DmC >Devil May Cry V >Zone of the Enders >Zone of the Enders Second Runner >God of War 1 >God of War 2 >God of War 3 >Ninja Gaiden Black >NInja Gaiden Sigma >Ninja Gaiden 2 >Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 >Ninja Gaiden 3 (shit) >Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge >God Hand (shit) >Metal Gear Rising >Jedi Knight Outcast >Jedi Academy
Have some in the backlog and there's probably some i am forgetting. Kill yourself you report card faggot.
I don't give a flying fuck about where i am, i shit on God Hand every chance i get because it deserves it.
Elijah Cruz
What the hell are you rambling about? I'm not OP. I was only shitting on the QTEs, you know, the thing that fucking nobody likes about Bayo 1 and were removed from the sequel? Yes, I haven't done a pure platinum run, but that's because I couldn't take more of the shitty PS3 port. I still enjoy the game a lot.
Logan Carter
i only edited the other pic to put dmc1 at the top
Adrian Martin
>look at me use objectively to express my opinion
Bentley Harris
forgot
>Chaos Legion
So there's probably more i forgot
Henry Martinez
Based Bayochad. DMC3 is unironically the most overrated action game I've ever played.
Asher Cooper
WHY DO PEOPLE HERE Play games they hate with a passion more than at the beginning?!! 9 chapters in & you still hate what you do?! Just drop it if you're not enjoying it!! WOW!!
Personally I feel that DMC3 only really gets bad on DMD, but I kinda see your point there.
Chase Gray
Except it's pretty common opinion within the DMC fanbase that 3's DMD is bad. DMC3's DMD was the devs going "dur these games supposed to be hard right?". Game's great, DMD is a fucking shitshow though.
Adam Diaz
>DMC3 is unironically the most overrated action game I've ever played. i think the combat system itself is rated appropriately but most other aspects of the game really suck
Chase Brown
i didn;t enjoy vanquish pretty generic shooter
Cooper Harris
How does Bayonetta 2 run on Cemu these days?
Cameron Sanders
It depends on how you play it, desu
Matthew Morales
That's my stance on it too. The story is good as well but there are so many of THOSE moments
Blake Carter
Because i like the genre and there's very few games that i ended up actively disliking in it. Unlike Trash Hand, Bayonetta is liked everywhere else and not just in contrarian Mongolian horse fucking boards so i want to give this game a try. I came in here expecting people to counter my criticism and maybe i would see what i was missing, instead i got a bunch of cum guzzlers spewing at the mouth.
Joseph King
It's another game contrarians try to pretend is something it's not.
Justin Ramirez
To be clear I think Bayo 1 and DMC3 are pretty much in the same tier. I just don't understand the endless fellating DMC3 gets while every ignores it's shortcomings while everyone is so quick to point out how Bayo's QTEs make the game unplayable. Sure I get it, you don't like them, I don't either. Mission 5, Mission 12, Mission 15, and Mission 19 make me wonder if ANYONE on the DMC3 team played the game on DMD, I don't think they did. They just tuned up some dials and thought that would be good enough. While I love both Kamiya and Itsuno as game directors this is one of the biggest differences in their games. Kamiya's action games have a lot of effort put into them on the higher difficulties, Itsuno just turns the dials up and calls it a day. Kamiya's action games have some things I'm not a fan of as well, but DMC1/Bayo1/TW101 max difficulties are all better balanced and more enjoyable than DMC3/DMC4/DMC5.
Xavier Hernandez
I swear there was a bayo bait thread with that same OP image a few days ago.
the same faggot has been crying about this game all week
Henry Cox
It's almost like if you type Bayonetta on google that's the image that comes up. You fucking troglodyte.
Connor Perry
>it's almost like Hello, reddit.
Asher Cruz
I have only gotten 1 stone medal so far and it was in the last chapter and because i missed a bunch of hidden challenges, sorry to burst your bubble. But it's excellent game design that your performance matters fuck all if you don't have QTE or hidden secret omniscience.
Jack Cruz
>have to memorize combo formula >getting graded on it is the "fun" part of the game
This game is for turbo autists who were too stupid to be math prodigy autists in school
Gavin Flores
fuck off back to DMCV general schizo
William Peterson
>gettint stones for missing alfheim That's not possible. If you get bronzes in everything but miss an alfheim you'll get bronze. You have to die to get stones. Sorry, shitter.
Eli Sullivan
How many more times are you going to make this thread?
Jordan James
>DMC3 is unironically the most overrated action game I've ever played. I take it you haven't played Bayo 2?
I totally understand you, user. I played Nier Automata a year before playing Bayo1 and Bayo1 is just so weirdly boring. The combat is really static, you go from fight to fight and corridors in the middle, everything is brown and yellow like generic xbox360 shooters, the world feels empty, the story is unnecessarily convoluted for what it actually amounts to, and it all feels so same-y after the first three levels.
I hate the fact that I spent like 15 hours in this game to prepare myself for Bayo2 when watching the anime movie would've been exactly the same. Nier Automata is better in every conceivable way, but Bayo1 is really old, so it comes as no surprise. Im going to play Bayo2 someday before Bayo3 comes out.
I don't understand me at all but thanks for the support anyway.
Lincoln Miller
Overall opinion is Bayonetta 2 is worse than the first game despite it's better critic response. People talk about DMC3 like it's God's gift to the genre with no flaws and no way to top it.
Andrew Gray
It was fine, people were just shitting themselves hard because it was a wiiu exclusive and witch time was relegated into "save me I'm a shitter mode"
Adrian Lopez
Bayo 2 > W101 > everything else
Charles Jenkins
What do you get out of pretending to be some natural action game prodigy? Is it compensating for being garbage at these games no matter how much you play them? Is that why you have to RP on forums?
Robert Flores
only recently have you been able to criticize Bayo 2 without being called a falseflagging console warrior, you're delusional
Asher Diaz
I dropped this around chapter 7, mostly because on PC it is bad
Anthony Butler
>bayonetta 1 >nintendo Wut
Jason Lopez
The fast pace is what makes it cool. I played it because of that and the fact that it was free on PS+
Andrew Morgan
>Slow motion cover shooter >Fast paced
uh huh
Brody Price
I smell a boring game that no one bothers to play a second time
Adam Bailey
I'm not pretending, you're just being a shitter. What do you get out of trying to be some action game expert when you clearly don't have fundimentals down?
Tyler Long
Its fine that you have preferences but do you guys have to be total fags about it? I perfer Bayo 1 over most of DMC but DMC is still a quality series with alot of strengths.
Not really, people were giving Bayonetta 2 critical views months after its release. Compare this to DMC3 where even 15 years later people act like it's the infallible "pinnacle" of the action game genre.
>Not pretending >HAHAHAHA HE DIED IN A GAME FILLED WITH CHEAP INSTANT DEATH AT EVERY TURN THAT HE'S PLAYING FOR EFFECTIVELY THE FIRST TIME HAHAHA >"Fundamentals" are universal to the genre
End yourself post haste. You're a joke.
Dominic Young
people criticize 3's DMD, enemy design, and bosses all the time, besides there's nothing wrong with admiting that it has those issues and still seeing it as being one of the best games in the genre. Bayo 1 has tons of shit that I hate about it but it's still one of my favorite games of all time
Anthony Powell
Don't take my criticism of DMC3 as disdain against, I love the game. I'm just explaining the point that Bayonetta 2 is not the "most overrated action game ever" when that title easily belongs to DMC3.
Tyler Brooks
I'm sorry you're being called a shitter and the game is treating you like one. I'm sorry that your ego can't handle this and you're taking it out on the game. Perhaps you're in the wrong genre and want something a little easier, little guy.
Connor Wood
No problem
Jace Martin
No, it belongs to Bayo 2. That game received a slew of perfect 10s and majority opinion among normies is that it's a strict upgrade compared to the first one.
Joseph Morris
Maybe it's because you just threw around the word "gimmick" a bunch of times without elaborating at all? Maybe it's because you're complaining about bad telegraphs in a game that is EXPLICITLY designed around having telegraphed moves because witch time is the meta? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's because your entire post comes off as salty whining when you could have made a thread earnestly asking people why they enjoy the game, and maybe if you're doing anything wrong? Because I can tell you, as someone who has played Bayo 1 several times and used to suck at it, you're not putting any real effort into learning it if it's pissing you off this much. It's different than other action games, and that confuses you, so you shitpost about it on Yea Forums instead of putting in the time to get better.
Fuck off.
Jason Brown
Slow paced are you fucking retarded? You played the game very wrong faggot.
Anthony Nguyen
What ego? Who is taking it out on the game? I just pointed out what was wrong with it, i literally never even said the game was objective shit, just that i am not liking it. I should have seen you were a fucking vacuous mongoloid the moment you repeated my post back to me instead of coming up with something on your own. Don't talk to me again you role playing retard.
Evan Howard
God of War and DmC over Bayonetta? how?
Also Metal Gear Rising combat it based on the bayonetta combat engine.
Jack Kelly
It's OK, user, Bayonetta isn't for everyone. You've clearly demonstrated you're not ready for it. Maybe batman arkham series combat is more suited for you.
Dylan Brooks
>DMC4 is on the same tier as Bayonetta
Aiden Ward
Combat engine is probably the best ever so that elevates it. Too bad the game is a copy and paste mess.
Robert Gomez
I will never, ever, ever understand why people liked Nier Automata so much. Usually if I don't enjoy a popular game I can at least understand why it's well liked, but Automata just baffles me. Combat is so boring and clunky, the RPG mechanics feel incredibly tacked on, tons of backtracking across barren environments, really awkwardly designed 2D sections, multiple le "it's supposed to feel like shit but if you die you still have to do it all again!" segments, and a really unintuitive save system that tried to ape dark souls for some reason. Even people who recognize all this hail the story as the game's saving grace, and it's definitely enjoyable and a step above most other cookie cutter AAA tripe, but it's not enough to save the entire game from just being a slog.
Who knows, maybe something just never really "clicked" with the combat, but I'm generally decent at action games, and in Automata I felt like I was fighting against the system most of the time.
Jacob Wilson
This list feels like it was made before DMC5 came out and then some random shitposter edited it to include it. DMC5 is undoubtedly a great game but the recency bias is pretty strong here. At the MOST it should go in god tier, it doesn't deserve to be put above three games that people have had years to thoroughly learn.
Jeremiah Murphy
Gimmick is a word in the dictionary, if you want it explained go fucking read what it means. getting chased around by bouncing ball is a gimmick, driving on a railway is a gimmick, fighting enemies that are on fire and hurt you if you touch the wrong one is a gimmick. Anyone who's played this game for more than a single chapter and is not a facetious faggot would recognize what "gimmick" would be referring to. Every single level introduces some new special scenario,m you don't even have tine to get acclimated with the combat because there's always some extra bullshit added in. I said the combo system FEELS like a gimmick, because in other game in the genre do you have to hold buttons inputs while doing to continues combos when getting the timing on some combos in the middle of the clusterfuck that is combat is hard to grasp already for a beginner.
Witch Time is the meta in the game where it gets removed in the "real" difficulty? Okay retard. Many enrage enemies have attacks that are unseable, the only way to doge them is to just assume they are going to attack you preemptively. Many of the later game enemies have attacks that you could not possibly react to or see coming the first times you fight them.
>Can't criticize a game you feel is worth criticizing >You're supposed to suck up and grovel to the autistic fanbase first Eat shit and die
I only put time in games that grab my attention, something that's not hard to do. When a game keeps throwing nonsensical garbage at me it's not gonna motivate me to play enough to the point that i can see the garbage coming and pretend it's not there.
And to answer your question as to why i did not elaborated, it's because I'm not new and i knew this was exactly what i was going to get no matter how much effort i put into my post.
Nolan Cook
I agree, I wanted to love this game but for largely the same reasons I couldn't help but be angry the entire tiem playing.
Austin Hughes
What over? I listed the games i played, i haven't even finished playing this shit. I had a lot of fun with all of them the first time minus the ones marked as shit though, i can't say the same about this game.
Dylan Ortiz
Oh, I'm sorry, i was supposed to glitch slide around and pretend that's how the game is meant to be played because one autist says so.
Asher Wood
>no argument git gud
Jaxson Ramirez
well, on second thought, i wouldn't say i had A LOT of fun playing DmC, but it's no where as bad as everyone pretends it is outside of shitting on the original series for no reason.
John Rivera
I dont feel like I need to contribute much after OP replied but I'll add that I find the ranking system to be absolutely brain dead I'm all for there being damage thresholds for what ranking you'll recieve at the end of a fight but the difference between plat and gold being literally one hit is fucking retarded Not to mention that you can immediately drop from Pure Plat to Bronze if you get caught by a SINGLE enemies combo Maybe this one is just me being a retard perfectionist but I really felt the need to restart a chapter if I dropped bellow plat on early mission fights and thats just plain annoying
Nolan Reyes
Every single Platinum's game is a style over substance trash for 13 yo ADHD teenagers who likes flashy animations and retarded goninjagoninja-lelsorandom japanese 'humour' over complex strategic combat. Their games bloated with useless movesets, and every single one can be finished with mindless buttonmashing even on the highest difficulty.
Hudson Perry
2B ass.
Wyatt Myers
Let's not pretend like you're actually good at any video game to make such a statement.
Isaac Nguyen
i would personally bump bayo up to god tier and bring DMC3 down to high tier, for all its flaws it still has some of the best enemies in the genre and an entirely unique combat system that sets it apart from the competition, DMC3 on the other hand has been almost entirely made obsolete by 5 to the point that is struggle to go back and play it
Thats Bayonetta 2 which real Bayo fans agree is complete shit.
Bentley Nguyen
Are you me? Currently on mission 5 with DMD and i'm at the point where my appreciation for the game has massively fallen apart, how the fuck do DMC3fags shitpost on other action games yet give a free pass to Itsuno bloating enemy HP the fuck up w/super armor making just about everything take longer to kill? I'm already fucking dreading replaying Leviathan & Arkam again.
Game peaked on "hard mode" and started creeping in the unfun territory at times via very hard but holy fuck this hurts.
Alexander Stewart
why is this picture dirty
Levi Williams
I think its less about recognizing issues and more about shitposting other actions games while being two-faced about it.
Ayden Smith
Also forgot:
>Sekiro >Nioh >Vanquish if you are gonna count that but you might as well count RE6, Max Payne and even Uncharted if you do
Robert Phillips
DMC3's problem is it bloats enemy HP but also makes it way, way too easy for enemites to Devil Trigger. Compare this to DMC1's DMD where enemies don't get more HP on DMD, however they get huge HP boots once they Devil Trigger. Enemies in DMC1 DT off a timer, it's up to the player to kill them as quickly and as stylishly as possible to avoid them DTing, Critical Hits also play a huge roll in this. DMC3's difficulty balance is genuinely bad, all the developers did was turn dials up with no thought at all what the consequences would be. Good luck on Arkham, you'll need al the self control you can get not wanting to drop the game completely.
Owen Johnson
Bioshock Infinite and GTAIV had 90+ and we know how the actual audience reacted to them.
Aiden Watson
God Hand is one of the best jog 'n jab games of all time. Bayonetta was also fun, I'd say a solid 7 out of 10. Are you a fag?
Adrian Diaz
That is the #1 reason why i'm scared for Bayo 3, event with the Switch port Bayo 2 outscored 1 on the same platform, which makes me fear PG will take bad feedback and apply it to the third game without understanding what went wrong.
Jordan Bailey
>God Hand is one of the best jog 'n jab games of all time
Guaranteed you have not played the game above level 2 or even at all.
Justin Davis
I have a hard time seeing DMC5 not being put on the same tier as Bayo 2 considering the amount of advance tech removal, gravity changes, V missions, etc which makes it equally guilty.
Thomas Miller
>how the fuck do DMC3fags shitpost on other action games yet give a free pass to Itsuno bloating enemy HP the fuck up/super armor
They don't play on anything above Hard.
Carson Campbell
DMC5 also has very bad audio and visual cues compared to DMC1/3/4. DMC1/3/4 give very clear indicators of what's going to happen, DMC5 enemies do not. Most of the time they hit you from off screen because a pixel of their toe was in your camera for split second and they started an attack and thanks to the games poor audio cues it's hard to tell what is attacking.
Jackson Thomas
Yeah you're totally right brah. I like to pretend I played video games on the internet.
Austin Mitchell
I don’t know how you like W101 but not like bayo. Both games share a lot of the same mechanics and ranking system. W101 has way more gimmicky parts.
John Phillips
i know I'm right, i can always tell. Not even the dedicated autismos of that game call it the best of all time of anything, only the dumb parrots do.
Lucas Ward
I said "one of the best". I've played through the whole game. You're a retard with low reading comprehension.
Luis Green
Just going to get this off my chest, DMC3's DMD gave me a mild newfound appreciation for Bayo 1's route 666/space harrier chapters.
There. I said it. I'm sorry but DMC3's lows are risen to the point of being near-game breaking as the difficulty slider goes up for me, which sucks ass considering how much i loved everything else about the game. Bayo 1's NSIC at least respects your overall damage output while keeping enemy ai on the more intimidating but actually interesting side of things.
