Is WoW classic worth it for people who never played WoW or is it only good for people with nostalgia?

Is WoW classic worth it for people who never played WoW or is it only good for people with nostalgia?

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If you like MMORPGs that are grindy but still much less grindy than Asian MMORPGs, then you'll probably like it. Otherwise, no.

No. Classic WoW will be nothing like the original Vanilla WoW. You will only give money to Blizzard, a company that does not deserve it and treats it customers as useful idiots.

Sure, I love it when people waste money. Do it.

Classic is so poggers to the fucking max

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It will be dead within a month don't bother

I will be rolling nothing

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so it's shit thanks

why don't you ask in any of the dozen fucking threads about it

I WANT TO FUCKIN PLAY ALREADY GOD DAMNIT.

i think it will actually be better in a month when most people quit at the level 30 slog and a real community forms from the people who sticks it out assuming blizzard doesnt completely fuck the game as they tend to do

This.

big true

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>48 hours 7 minutes

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>when you and three friends synchronized sick and vacation days to play for 8 days straight to powerlevel to 45 or more before having to return to life
What 30 slog? 7 days and we'll be 50 I say!

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when the bandwagoners leave the game will be great, I am going to roll on one of the newer servers if they release some new ones during launch that would be nice too
they are probably going to do character transfers (since that was a thing in classic) later so I could always transfer to a higher pop realm if I wanted to after everything dies down

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It's a version of a game dominated by obsessed autists specifically to appeal to the most extreme and nostalgia-obsessed of those autists.

What do you think?

Can't wait for zoomers to spam twitch emotes on /1

It's a satisfying experience in a visceral way. I wouldn't describe it as exciting or as mind blowing, but it's consistently gratifying to that accomplishment center in your ape brain. There's a reason World of Warcraft made the MMO market explode in popularity, for better or for worse. Personally, I'm pretty excited to hop on and play a few months of something I haven't had the chance to play for years, with a bit slower of a pace; but I could understand if that isn't appealing to everyone.

You are stupid. That's what it means. Very stupid.

That's not what retard means, you retard.

I wonder what it's like being a retailmutt eating such unbelievably large amounts of crow.

WoW classic is for people that hate to be alive, it's the cheapest drug you can buy. You will ignore everything and everyone, and become addicted to logging in, to the point where going out feels pointless and logging in is the only way to feel your existence has any meaning.

I doubt it was used as a verb.

Nah that's bullshit nigger you hear about "that christmas I got Mario 64/OoT and stayed up all night playing it" or "playing pokemon with link cables at school" shit all the time

FUCK paying 15 dollars for this

they are hitting levels of cope that shouldn't even be possible

Yeah, but you don't hear about people breaking into their parent's house, setting up christmas decorations and trying to redo that allnighter. Or fully grown adult hanging out at an elementary school with a backpack full of gameboys and link cables. At least I bloody hope those aren't things that actually happen. Meanwhile in MMOland, "it's just like back then" isn't just a thing, it's a rallying cry. See that whole "going home" shit.

>it's now replayable
>people are going to replay it
it's not exactly complicated

I don't get how MMO players are doing any of that either

It's been replayable all along. See private servers. This is something more than just an availability issue.

yeah but most people new to vanilla will shit a brick when they realize that 30-40 the only option for leveling is the get ganked by rogues and fight your own faction for a single mob in stv or grind a mobs for 10 levels and since grinding isnt a thing in any modern wow nobody will have the patients to do it

sure

It's really dated, some people will find that aspect charming, other people will not be willing to tolerate it. Back when it came out, we just compared it to EQ, which it blew out of the water. Today you will be comparing it to every game that has come out since 2005, including itself, and it will not be a flattering comparison. It's definitely still good, but not really worth playing over other games on the market right now. I would only ever recommend it to people who want a fun nostalgic trip because it's not even better than the live game. Don't listen to homefags, they are obsessed with Classic and can't give an unbiased opinion.

private servers are way more likely to fuck off though, which is kind of a big deal in a game that asks you to grind

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You might as well try it to get in on the phenomenon while everyone is playing, but I doubt it can keep people engaged in 2019.

Don't play on Faerlina, problem solved.

those are some really shitty population numbers for WoW

Metal gear solid has been available to play since its release and still get the exact same experience at any point that people got when it first came out. WoW, being an ever-changing MMORPG, has not had the same effect available to newcomers years after its release.
How have you not grasped this shit?

Sounds like my life already except without any reason to live.

True, but on the other hand that's also an issue with most commercial MMOs. WoW and the two Final Fantasies are pretty much the only ones guaranteed to last, everything else tends to have a lifecycle measured in months. Not saying you didn't raise a valid point (you very much did), just saying the grinding for things that might disappear overnight is kind of inherent in the genre.

e-celebs everywhere
future of the game in question
it's blizzard, so they're just going to do progression servers
At least it's something to do for the next year and then back into the no good mmos are out spiral.

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and wow classic is the old experience. Woah, mindblowing

You do realize you're supporting his point right?

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Actually beat ninja, holy shit.

no, but people here will tell you the opposite
so go ahead and waste your money on an outdated game

it is for who are blinded by nostalgia and cannot see the issues with the game.

What this guy said but completely opposite.

It's only good for people with nostalgia. It's a fun experiment but it's unrealistic this game is going to get very far. Blizzard improved through years of calculated planning, trial and error and it's only a matter of time before these nostalgia players return to current content. How am I supposed to believe that cutting races, classes and expansions worth of content will make a world more fun? It's like arguing a smaller toolbox with 90% of the tools gone is better for a mechanic, or giving a chef only one ingredient.

Take it from a 7 year veteran of WoW: the game has never been better.

I know. I was giving an answer to his question. Not everything is an argument.

It won't just "die", retail WoW still has more than 3.5 million subs and it's BFA for fuck sake.
Private servers have had hundreds of thousands of players, if not millions combined. Lights hope had almost half a million players over the last 2 years, with their last realm; Northdale constantly being over 5000 players online and up to 10k players from 1pm to 6pm everyday for over 8 months with less than 30%of them being Chinese.
It's not "gonna die", it's 2019; of course online videogames have a huge population drop off from when they release to let's say a year later. People get bored now and play different new games, it's no longer 2005 when the PC platform only had abunch of games like cs1.6/aoe/whatever else.

Fucking stupid snow nigger.

>Not everything is an argument.
BLASPHEMY

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>PC platform only had abunch of games like cs1.6/aoe/whatever else.
>googles 2004 pc games
Bad thrust, easy to parry

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hahahahahahahaha

They're mad that they have Noone to grind the latest ilvl bis gear with the right socket gem and the right enchants for their azerite piece that titanforges into a higher ilvl when you upgrade it using whatever new currency bfa introduce that you get from random chests and dailys and LFR raiding because actually doing mythic+ raids to get gear is only for people who get payed to play the game like streamers and world first guilds.
The only people who are gonna have problems with e-celebs are NA fags.

Well mainly it forces players together more often
youtu.be/mwd0lbB1XBI?t=133
If nerds aren't forced to interact they won't and no community exists, just isolated groups
wait
>Take it from a 7 year veter
ah you fucking nigger I can't believe you've done this

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There came a point in WoW life that it simply had too much stuff to do, and that point came in the cataclysm pre patch.

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god i want WoTLK back, it was so comfy

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>Blizzard improved through years of calculated planning, trial and error

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It's better than retail but that's not really an achievement.

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Bring on the Pandas

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2 days!! ahhhhhh
AHHHHHHHHhhhHHH

>tfw playing on a BC server
Feels good man, slowly opening up Heroics and progressing my way up to the best raid of all time, Karazhan

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Argh, mediocre
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>7 year veteran

So you played when MoP got out, fuck off newfag.

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AND AS I LIVE

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I played on a BC server for awhile, was fun, got through Karazhan and took down Gruul before the guild imploded due to lack of attendance and server dying.

What server? What is the player count?

WE ARE THE DEAD

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And before you step foot in Kara, Blizzard will shut it down.

who's ready to roll on a FRESH
perhaps the FRESHEST we've ever rolled on

no

Saved for future threads. This shit is comedy gold.

For a warrior, should you go up the fury talent tree while leveling and respec at 40 or do it correctly from the beginning? I just wonder if missing out on 5% crit during leveling is a bad idea

>retail WoW still has more than 3.5 million subs
No it doesn't. That was sales from nearly a year ago.

Netherwing, peak lately is around 2k during busy hours although right now is 1088. Usually has a near perfect A/H split.

>being this wrong on the internet
Not even my first time playing on a private server. You think I won't enjoy myself but I will. :-)

Can I play this game without knowing anything about it or will people get mad at me?

conventional wisdom is spec pure prot and level in 5 man's. kick anyone from your group who asks for more than a 3 minute break once every 6 hours. using deep prot, you enable the healer to sleep between pulls, extending your grinding sessions of 26 hours by roughly 3%

it's not just for people who hate themselves, but it will definitely turn anybody into that.

ironically enough, the streamers/content creators are the smart ones because they can at least parlay their hours in the game to real income. if you're really fucking good at the game, can level like a machine, etc. then it would be smart to get the in-game attention of these streamers making 6 figures+ annually and get them to put your stream or youtube channel on.

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They'd better make Raider.io and Gearscore bannable then, too. To the point where they can ban group leads who only invite highest ilvl players after checking armory. That's literally the only way to keep things "compatible with the social design of Classic."

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Yeah you'll be fine.

cool thanks

you're already pissing me off, newguy.
let's set some things straight. never talk to me or my guild ever again. if i EVER see you rend my sheep, i swear to FRICKIN HECK you will regret every moment of your WoW career. i hope we are clear.

>Getting Shadow Form is a tall high
Shadow form has absolutely nothing to do with what makes priest easy to level. If anything, going shadow makes priest more difficult to level. What makes priest easy is that you can simply shield yourself, cast shadow word pain, start shooting your wand, then go afk until the enemy is dead. You rarely need to drink. You rarely need to heal yourself. It's easy. Speed-wise, it's nothing to write home about, but it isn't bottom of the pack either thanks to how there's virtually no downtime.

I played panda when it came out and Nost, which was a private vanilla server. I've played every other MMO thats ever been on the market as well.

Vanilla WoW is absolutely above and beyond the single best MMO experience you will ever have.

You know how you always see advertisinment that says "a living, breathing world", well WoW is the only game that actually gives you that. Its an adventure to play, and a massive god damn time sink because you will want to keep playing for tens of hours until you're an unwashed messed.

Yah, im thinking hes based

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This. Pic will be Classic after 3-6 moths.
No Naxx gear? No UBRS.

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I never played classic WoW or Retail WoW for that matter but I keep hearing people being excited about world pvp in classic. Is that not a thing in retail anymore or something?

fuck off retard no one even knows who you are stop posting yourself in wowcg

Dilate

Based blizzard does it again, retailers BTFO

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t.walletsout

>actually watching this mentally ill faggot
jesus christ
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HOLY FUCKING BASED BLIZZARD

Not really, no. The game world is either devoid of players or they're phasing out of existence every 40 yards as you're moved around server shards (different layers to give the illusion that the world is populated)

Not really. War Mode killed open world pvp by letting people opt out whenever they want.

retal wow is at like 300k concurrent non chink players
its going to be a ghost town for the next month

In classic you can get killed by other players at any time, doesnt exist in retail at all because you can opt out.

Posting this has the opposite effect because being shit makes zoomers watch more because they can think "I wouldn't have done that"
It's why they all watch Asmonbalding and tell him he sucks 24/7

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Isn't joining a pvp server in the first place opting in?

if you watch alex for any period of time you realize he's an insufferable faggot with no redeeming qualities on top of being terrible at the game

>3.5 million subs and it's BFA for fuck sake.
Fucking lol. No. Not even close.

You really fucking think Blizz pulls in half a billion dollars a year off sub fees alone for WoW? Yeah sure desu. Subscriptions, licensing and "other" revenue totals 30% of their income of 1.8B a year. Math doesnt add up.

Acti/Blizz make more money from their shitty mobile games.

I have only seen that druid vs hunter video and that's it
1. Asmon has those exact features
2. Why are you watching some literal who enough to know him

Tauren Warrior or Shaman bros?
Will roll Orc on PvP server if PvP servers aren't dildos. I don't remember getting ganked being a 24/7 thing, but I just like chillin

both

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>fairbanks and stalagg full now
who the fuck ratted out the secret best servers
god damnit

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Exactly, its redundant.

You have to realize that for the last 15 years Blizzard has been run by old EQ raiders who only cared about raiding, they changed every feature of the game to make raiding more accessible and everything else either got nerfed, cut or piecemeal content updates. PvP has always been a second class child to raiding and Blizzard never gave a shit about leveling, wPvP or instanced PvP, they only released updates for it because people complained about the raid focus, of which less than 20% of players even bothered to play since its not nearly as fun as leveling.

Both. If you want the most challenging first run in vanilla go warrior. If you want an easier time and to not be broke by the time you get to 60 go shaman.

But both are great fun to play.

SHHHHHH DELETE THIS

I went to the forums for the first time in years to look around. The BfA salt is REAL. These people are delusional. I saw one retard say that people will crawl back to their sub 1 mil player shithole when Classic fails to the tune of millions of more BfA players.
Pic related
>b...but my COSMETICS!

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enjoy your autismo EVE online Devilsaur mafia. It'll be on every server in some way shape or form, but not like that

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alex's older videos weren't that bad but then he actually became mentally ill and was doing shit like threatening to sue blizzard over private servers
asmon is bad as well but not nearly as bad as alex, I don't watch either of them anymore
WoW streamers in general are massive dipshits and cringe and for the most part take themselves way too seriously

gearscore isnt a thing in vanilla unless youre pants on head retarded considering some of the best gear in the game is like level 50

>implying that shit isn't getting b&
cross faction collusion may have been a thing on your pee-servers but not here

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>3.5 million subs
>the leak during the investor call 6 months ago was around 1.2
>we know from the preceding investor calls that the number has fallen below that

DELUSIONAL

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I don't think raider.io will be a thing since weights for all classes are different. If you're the Nightfall bitch shaman, you have no BiS until Naxx once you get the initial BiS.

Sure, they can bend over backward to write custom gear weights for every class on every piece of gear, but after seeing Blizz swiftly execute the BfA faggots and their LFG addon I have somewhat renewed faith the dev team of WoW might execute such an addon as well.

>Sure, they can bend over backward to write custom gear weights for every class on every piece of gear
They do. It's called Pawn.

I'm no longer on Fairbanks but trolling aside, I hope they do, actually.

Fuck that shit.

I don't think it's going to be like on retail for a few reasons, though.

You don't need cutting edge for most stuff in the game. Outside of people racing for world firsts, filling bodies will be the first priority.

Secondly, the player base itself is probably mostly hostile to stuff like that. Some people might use it, but I think there is a larger chance of YOU getting the server blacklist if you start making groups with such an addon. I do think there's a LOT of people who actively hostile to retail type player attitudes.

It's really hard to say; we'll have to see what happens.

Cope

Depends on how long they try to stretch out each phase. If they add a new one every couple months it should be fine but if they try to drag it out similar to the original timeline people will get bored quick.

Soon

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pvp server is better than pve server right?

It's ok Nymphshie's got this

Is there a way to just install the classic server? I don't want all the horseshit post vanilla

>Horde vs Alliance
>Contested zones
>Guild fights
>Actual engagement with the world
Yeah, I'm thinking it's better

>going on forums
you walk into a sewer and you get covered in shit, who knew

I've always felt like PvE is too limiting and not as exciting. On a PvP server you're always looking over your shoulder and wondering if that guy from the other faction will attack or not.

Holy shit this is such a simple mechanic why do they fail so hard.

Go in 5 at a time and keep everyone else away, its not hard Jesus.

okay thanks

OP didn't ask about Vanilla WoW. They asked if Classic was worth trying for people who never played Vanilla WoW.

I dont play PvP but I always roll PvP servers anyway. It just adds a lot of character to the world, its annoying to get ganked but also nice to see people interact and create rivalries over that sort of content.

how the fuck should I know, it's not out yet you fucking retard.

The thing is ilvl doesn't mean shit in vanilla.

Noone in Naxx gear does ubrs.
Noone who raids bwl and ZG weekly does ubrs after getting the gear they need from it/their friends do.

>after checking armory.
Armory didn't exist until BC. You couldn't even cross-faction inspect until BC.

lirik chose stalagg

>7 year
>veteran
>missed vanilla, BC, lich king, and most of cata
>thinks he has any fucking weight to stand on

Look at this faggot and laugh

>ilvl
>vanilla
Do you want to know how I can tell you never played it

They'll get mad at you. They get mad at everyone. Themselves included.

People back then were just as retarded as people now.

WoW is not a hard game to play at any level, its very simple to learn and understand and you'll get it quickly.

The only ever situation where you could annoying people is by tanking when you dont know the dungeon layouts.

Even in Wrath, it wasn't armory checks, it was come to Dalaran fountain for inspection.

theres loads of nooby ass scrubs on p servers. just join a decent guild and there will be a handful of autists that know literally everything about the game to tell you what you need

I feel like the reason raiders think raids are hard is because they're actually idiots.

I mean everyone who is smart stays away from raids, so it makes sense only the morons are left to do them.

>Take it from a 7 year veteran of WoW: the game has never been better.
10/10 bait

Turn pet growl off and put your pet away when jumping off a ledge

A moment of silence please for retail WoW and FFXIV.

They tried their best, but never lived up to the hype like vanilla.

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Fucking based; I'm glad they did it

Doesn't stop people from being dumbshits and making stupid demands. Hell I remember seeing "T2 or higher only" groups trying to recruit for Stratholme.

suddenly im much more optimistic about this

I'm so thankful for the people who use every Classic WoW thread as an opportunity to put people off by spamming streamer shit
Please continue, we don't need anyone too stupid to realise all the streamers are on one containment server, thank you for your service

Try it out, make your own decision.
If you like it, then invest some time into researching things you’d like to get out of it. This doesn’t mean purely end game, there’s lots of different goals to aim for.
If you don’t, unsibscribe, realize you have only payed 15-30 dollars for a month or two’s worth of gameplay. Not a whole lot of money in the grand scheme of things.

Cute kot. Got a source for that image?

Lol armory isn't even in classic, stay mad fag

>thinking that cancer won't spread from retail
do you want to know how i know you are one of those "going home" tards in for a massive shock?

its not stupid at all if youre trying to make a good farm group. literally all of these problems are solved by join a guild and/or connecting with other players to run shit

so that's where you moved the goalposts to after LFG got btfo. Ready to be wrong for the second time?

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"Full" is ~5000 players online at once. That's right, they're putting layering in the game even though the player caps are at vanilla levels anyway. 9 full servers means there are 45,000 players waiting to play on them. Compare that to the millions of players FFXIV has and it's fucking nothing.

>pvp server is better than pve server right?
Yes and no? If you're only interested in battlegrounds and pve content then PvP servers are a waste of time. A lot also hinges on what blizzard does in the post phase 6 game: They could make World PvP potentially meaningful. But it's nu-blizz and they're faggots. We know that after phase 6 the ride is going to be over.

It's only a matter of time before most of the classic crowd ends up playing retail once again. The nostalgia just won't last, it's a nice idea and maybe a good hold over until the next content patch but it simple isn't going to do well as a stand alone game. It doesn't have any of the improvements that made WoW truly great and is severely lacking in content - classes, races, zones, dungeons etc.

Take it from a 7 year WoW veteran: the game has never been better.

Go look at the twitter replies to these addons when they get posted, literally 100% of the replies are people telling them to take them down because it ruins the immersion of vanilla.

I get it, you've sunk a long of time into modern WoW, fact is it was a waste of time, no one thinks what you did was a good idea and you only have yourself to blame. Most people are not as moronic as you to think retail is good, or the practices of it are fun.

checking gear has been a thing since vanilla. they can't stop people from making the tools. the API calls exist. better get your BiS asap user.

woops haha

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tempted to play just to gank these faggot twitch streamers.

undead rogue. all day long. farm till they quit.

>millions
They just barely broke 1 million. Which is nothing to scoff at but don't overstate the popularity.

> they're putting layering in the game even though the player caps are at vanilla levels anyway
Stop making shit up from your ass, they've already confirmed that low is higher than the max vanilla had.

Absolutely OBSESSED

>source: my ass
it's always funny when you see people so threatened over a game they start lying

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Oh there's plenty of ways to piss off other players, but they all require you to be a massive idiot. Shit like tanking without a shield because it doesn't fit your character RP, or wearing full white vendor gear at level cap because it looks better, or playing a hunter and rolling on anything.

Kara was my first raid. I started classic at the tail end and was kinda clueless. Kara gave me some great memories.

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Their armies will corpse camp you for DAYS

Wasn't he defending ClassicLFG earlier?

>cloak of shadows, vanish

later, zoomer nerds

>or playing a hunter and rolling on anything.
Everything is a hunter weapon tho

>LFG Tool Classic is Call to Arms from Vanilla
>Classic Community nukes it because it was called LFG

The community is silly and despite being #nochanges they demand changes from Vanilla anyway.

Regardless the chat parsing function of the LFG Tool Classic addon is what I actually wanted and Blizzard can't break that part without killing streamers forever. Removing the addon being discoverable by other people with addon function is "Anti-Classic" even though it existed back in the day but we're mob rule now so it has to be removed.

I think the real problem here is that, if they fuck up removing just that portion of the addon, they could potentially kill a bunch of other addons most people actually will use, like Grid2 / healing addons that communicate with other players to show who is casting heals on a particular person and for how much. Imagine being a Druid with that shit long cast time HT spam and you can't see who's healing who, you'll get sniped and have massive overhealing.

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>I want convenience
Well we all want you to fuck off

the solution is to grief the twitch streamers until they quit.

streams have a delay. by the time the streamer dies, you are already vanished.

>mages and warlocks AoEing 100 yards around your corpse
Don't underestimate the streamer armies.

no. it's a meme propagated by brainlet neet turbo-losers who think it's going to make them feel like they are teen again

>shadman

I want a chat parser, this was shit we had in Vanilla.

Kindly fuck off poser.

>7 year WoW veteran
pretty good bait

>an army of 12 year olds with moms credit card who have never played wow in their lives

we'll be fine. also, these faggots will also be ganked.

Can't be worse than vanilla was. Back then a lot of folks had no idea how stats worked. Leading to shit like mages in pre-raid BiS getting kicked out of groups for using a couple of green armor pieces with spellpower on them, instead of using the zero spellpower dungeon set. Or warriors getting laughed at for using mail gloves that weren't even level 50.

I wish I looked like that

it doesn't matter if it existed in vanilla
the point is we don't want it

Literally no one gives a flying fuck, you're not getting one, get the fuck over it.

The chat parsing functionality, i.e. the core function of the addon, is still going to work. It does suck though that there's likely going to be a ton of collateral damage because nobody actually understands how addons work. They see "LFG" and they just start seeing red.

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> level paladin with friends
> go prot at 40
> tank my way to 60 in dungeons until pre raid healing bis
> switch to holy, get t2
> go ret and pvp like a madman in judgement set
What are your plans for classic boys, will you be going for riches, pvp, gearing up or maybe rolling many alts

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I'm rolling on an RP server. Removing that functionality will break those addons. This LFG addon doesn't break "MUH SOCIAL INTERACTION." Lazy niggers are still going to have to travel to the dungeon and be stuck with whoever they grab, or struggle and wait 30 minutes for a replacement to showup if they kick someone.

There will be a 3rd party lfg tool. Whether it's a bot in discord or a website, there will be one.

panicking retailfag? Shouldn't you be on your sever saying your goodbyes? Oh that's right, nobody talks on retail

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30 to 40 is the best part, 50-60 comes close

Based and LFG Pilled.

All the naked plebs at the end

>the point is we don't want it
That's the problem right there. There is no fucking "we", there are six million something "vanilla-experiences", what "we" want is going to vary wildly depending on who you ask. I was never #nochanges but at least with #nochanges there is a common baseline that everybody can subscribe to regarding things like CRBGS.

You clearly don't understand how addon API works, Blizzard can't just "ban" this single addon. By breaking the functionality there are potentially dozens of other addons that will either have to be completely rewritten or be abandoned that 100% existed and were widely used in vanilla.

I'm still getting a chat parser from it so too fucking bad for you. Which you'd know if you read the 1st post but since you aren't normal I won't hold it against you.

Please tell me you're rolling Skeram normal friend.

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No he's still getting a chat parser addon, see Chat parsing is not the functionality Blizzard would remove to break this, there are too many other completely unrelated addons that would break if they touched it. They're removing the inter-addon communication aspect of it which, is going to break a lot of other non-LFG related addons.

>since you aren't normal
>Goblin.jpg

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Yes, because when vanilla started, server sizes were 2000 and increased by the end of vanilla to 5000. That statement would also be true if it was made in late 2006.

The issue is not so much a case of opting-in as others suggest, but that the game-world itself has been side-lined and represents just wall-paper rather than actual places that matter, where things that matter happen. Want to do Stratholme? You don't travel to Stratholme with a group or wait for people to arrive outside to form a group, with the risk that enemy faction members are doing the same and may want to fight you. Instead, you click a button to queue in the dungeon finder which will match you to others doing the same, then it teleports you safely straight into the instance. Every MMO since and the genres it spawned like looter-shooters does this now.

If you want to pro-actively PvP, your needs are better served by the highly-neglected PvP instances like Battlegrounds and Arena, where you will quickly get into a contained fight with few stakes. These had the effect of reducing the number of aggressive players from the game-world though. World-PvP objectives were introduced; in Western Plaguelands and Silithus, places far from any populated area. The issue is as mentions; the devs that took over just before release were Everquest raiders and wanted everyone else to be.

Is there a reason why they are delaying phase 2 so much? I want world bosses roaming around and pvp rewards

this right here. korean MMO has no soul to keep the grind satisfying. vanilla is years older yet still has smoother controls than a lot of Korean fodder.

Phase 2 means everybody 50+ is HK and WPvP is literally the only way to farm Honor until phase 3. It's essentially the soft-deadline to hit 60 on PvP servers since trying to level during phase 2 is going to be a nightmare, especially once you hit 50+.

Only a gaylord wouldn't fuck a goblin female. They're like green Harvin with tits.

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>tfw I need to rush my 2nd character to 60 directly after my 1st
>But also professions

Did they ever give out concrete timelines for when each phase starts?

'member when 5-10 non-healing Druids and Rogues could do any dungeon or battleground as long as all wore Green Whelp Armor, with it's high chance to put any melee attacker to sleep for 60 seconds, pre-nerf? It was a level 30 crafted armour piece.
>Pepridge Farm remembers

Anyone who knows the first thing about addons knows how vital chat parsing is and there's no way in hell they'd remove that function of it. It's more than likely going to be the auto-inviting/joining functions that keep it from being a full on automatic matchmaking LFG tool, putting it more in line with the group-building addons that were actually around in vanilla.

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Shortstack is just cope midget porn like how loli is cope cp

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Yes, and? If midgets had proportions like wow goblins or other typical "shortstacks", i would absolutely be into them. Would you not be?

Yeah of course
But it's not normal

>t. people with no clue about recipe/ingredient values, or new item additions.

They're gonna hit inter-addon communication too, which while it definitely breaks that one portion of classicLFG is also going to break a ton of other addons notably healing addons which show predictive and incoming heals, pretty much all RP addons.

A lie spreader, how original

>Green Whelp Armor
user heres a secret
Anyone who could wear leather could do it
You could have paladins running around in it as well. Hell, it's actually pretty good for them.

Better the BfA, it is a rather low goal to surpass.

But it isn't an automagic LFG tool either, that was some faggot retailer streamer shilling for views. Why do you think I'm so concerned, they're trying to kill off something that isn't actual true automation outside of chat parsing.

I think it's only automatic functions are, autoposting custom messages (LF2M WC, ect) for chat to see every once in a while, the chat parsing, and sharing data from other people with the same addon who are also looking for groups for stuff. I mean this is blizzard here, they could very well kill the parsing and a whole lot of other addons in a dumb move or kill it by removing the intercommunication between people running the same addon, which would fuck up a whole host of other addons as well.

Either blizz bans only this addon specifically (which they aren't) or the community literally blew this fucking non-issue up into something that will potentially kill other addons they use.

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>Is WoW classic worth it
lol no

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NO CHANGES

This is no changes, why are you asking for changes user?

There's no such thing as "inter-addon communication" when it comes to channel parsing. An addon can input into chat channels. An addon can read information in chat channels. These chat channels can be hidden from the user so they never see any of it happening. The information isn't tied to a specific addon, it's simply text in a chat channel, just like all the shitposting in world. If they prevented addons from reading and sending chat messages, tons of addons would stop working. All to stop one addon that functions almost identically to actual vanilla addons? There's no way they'd be retarded enough to do that.

addons should not exist

PEOPLE OF AZEROTH
WE ARE GOING HOME

>couldn't even cross-faction inspect until BC
yes you could. watch some laintime videos, he inspects his enemies before engaging often. it was only possible through an addon but it was certainly possible.

Last 48 hours to complete your rl tasks user, get to it

Anyone else think retail is not fun for a casual PvE player?
>dungeons are braindead
>LFR is a joke for literal retards
Back in TBC you could pug Karazhan and heroic dungeons and have a fun challenge that way. Nowadays you either do raid content with a guild and have a challenge that way, or you queue for braindead content and have no fun whatsoever. I haven't really played since late Cata, so I might be wrong about this. Is it still this way? I think blizzard actually ruined the game for casuals by pandering for people who are way worse at the game than casuals used to be.

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Holy paladin, and i hope to find a comfy guild and finally kill cthun and kelthuzad

>Been wanting a classic server for centuries
>New Yugioh game came out 3-4 days ago
>Been playing that non stop
>Don't really feel like playing WoW now because I'm tunnel vision on Yugioh
>Know that if I don't play WoW classic from day 1 I'll never ever join because I have no interest in joining an MMO with an already established economy.

I might just download the client in case I change my mind. Why didn't WoW give me a month with my fucking yugioh game first, or come out earlier, fucking anything really.
Fuck.

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Levelling is so braindead simple that you could definitely do both at once

shoo shoo there will be enough ah jews

no, wow classic is for racist rednecks who hate gays and people of color.

I went from hardcore in vanilla to casual in TBC and had fun indeed doing Karazhan.

I also played MoP and Legion for two months. MoP sucked balls casual. Legion's LFR and Mythic+ were slightly better, but still not as fun as Karazhan.

who else marathoning joana's stream until monday night here?

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you'll probably regret it forever if you don't join from the beginning imo
this is a once in a lifetime experience

> tfw didn’t kill either
We were lucky to get past horsemen because another guild decided decided to join and carry us

>panda baby
>vet

hohohoho

What’s more grindy, Old School Runescape or WoW classic?

>There's no such thing as "inter-addon communication"

GTFO faggot and learn to read code.

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yo this is sick, never heard it

No because MMOs are all shit now because the people who occupy them are mostly normalfags/failed normalfags.

that's the best way to play, i wish i could have that again

Northdale just shut down and had a big ass event beforehand. Shit was amazing

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>Every youtuber ever says they're going to speed level to 60
>Every other big name person I've seen says they're speed levelign to 60
>A lot of people here are speed leveling to 60
>All WoW classic related videos are about either 'what class/race/faction to pick' or speed leveling
For what purpose lmao
>DUDE YOU NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THE PACK
No, no I don't actually. I will thoroughly enjoy leveling amongst the pack, PvPing while I level (and since I won't be rushing to get ahead of people all of the zones I visit will be rife with bloodshed), taking some time to work on my professions, randomly doing some dungeons to upgrade my gear and to take a break from grinding, regardless of how 'unoptimal' it is. I'll be reading quests too, there's some quest chains that I'm specifically looking to get into for lore reasons.

It's going to be so good taking my time and enjoying every single piece of what classic has to offer. It'll be like savouring a delicious, cooked to perfection, steak rather than shoveling it into my mouth by the second like a speed eater.

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stop trying to make it happen. it's over.

Everyone started popping flasks for PVP. man, don't think classic will ever live up to Northdale when it had 12k pop on every single day.

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>I'll be reading quests too, there's some quest chains that I'm specifically looking to get into for lore reasons.
Hope you enjoy the fanfiction.net tier writing, bro.

>forgot the part that says "when it comes to channel parsing"
learn to read english

What is this new Yugioh game user?

Extremely based.

The most optimal way to level in classic is to have a mele cleave or a spell cleave group and just run dungeons nonstop. /comfy/ as fuck.

The best yugioh game has been put for years bud and it's called ygopro. Better than any game made by Konami.

>this is a once in a lifetime experience

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Spells can't cleave though. Or is 'spellcleave' some kind of zoomerspeak?

hell yeah brother, rushing is no way to enjoy this. hope i run into some people like you in the wilderness. also, game music ON because it's worth hearing for the atmosphere.

It's just a term for aoeing everything down. Apparently you don't want to mix mele and ranged into the same group for optimal leveling path.

youtube.com/watch?v=JPZNzfKKv9s

I'm going to rush to 60, get geared, and then 1 shot people like you for lulz.

Link Evolution
>inb4 it's not new
Alright the definitive edition of the game with a shitload more cards than the previous ones.
I've never liked ygopro or any of the other variants personally.

Literally 3/4 of those realms will be ghost towns in 30 days

>balancing sucks, fuck retail, having classes all be balanced is soulless, i like when warlocks where the best class bar non in classic that other classes had literal 0 chance of beating, now THATS soul
cringe, classic cucks are an embarrassment
classic is a solved game. if you're not rolling a warlock then you're garbage.

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Based. My guild are doing the same thing, we plan on locking down Tarren Mill for hours.

im playing osrs instead and im having fun
i tried nostalrius but got tired of walking back and forth everywhere just to fight chinks for mobs. i would probably enjoy vanilla more if i had friends but playing solo is pretty cancer, i didn't find questing fun at all.

>retail
>balanced
I guess when every class is shit it is pretty "balanced" huh?

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>i didn't find questing fun at all
They're not fun with friends either, don't worry.

rock paper scissors balance is infinitely superior to homogenizing every class so they stand a chance against each other in 2v2 matchups.

>cloak of shadows
>in vanilla
uhhhhhhhhhhh bfa babs?

You're played a gimped version. Ygopro and other versions get all the cards. And the duels are also faster

warlock is literally out of the rock paper scissor system. warlocks are like humans irl, we're out of the food chain, we're the superior living creatures, nothing will ever beat us. that's warlock.
are you going to embarrass yourself by saying that warlock isnt, objectively, the strongest class in the game in pvp now? which class have you deluded yourself into believing beats a warlock? im curious

I don't care. Ygopro feels like shit to play and the UI both looks and feels cheap. I've tried it numerous times, I simply do not care for it.

Imagine being this guy. Holy shit the poopsock smell is coming through my screen.

Play undead :)

Tried ygopro2? Much better ui and you can customise the background

Or use the PVP trinket lmao

>gets blown the fuck out
>throws a tantrum
you sound like a tranny
why aren't you playing an orc warlock?

Females ranked by hotness
Troll = Night Elf > Undead > Orc > Human > Tauren > Gnome > shit >>>> Dwarf

Undead shadow priests can rape anyone in 1v1 in classic, including warlocks. Devouring plague is so op.

I haven't actually, but I've just googled it and it does look a lot better from a quick viewing. Definitely leagues better than how it used to look.

>He assumes i was in a conversation with him before and wasn't just laughing at how retarded he sounds
Top kek

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What if I'm a Shaman/Hunter/Warrior?

>"cringe"
>trash player
>faggot
>thinking retail is balanced
go back to your barbie dressing game retard

>orc warlock
I looked upon this poster and knew him to be my nigger

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devouring plague is garbage, jungle remedies remove it
also no shadow priest is ever beating a warlock. you'd run oom before you even broke a warlocks first sacrifice shield, especially if you've just blown 1/3 of your mana on fucking devouring plague of all things lmao
imagine being so pathetic that you get offended by posts you're not even taking part in
the absolute state of these shitters lmao

>Calling you retarded
>Is me getting offended
I knew you were retarded but come on bro, this is making me feel bad for you

>gets offended like a twitter tranny and calls me names
loving every laugh, you can't make this shit up

how about we sell you an old game that will never get any updates for full subscription price? is that something you'd be interested in?
wow fanboys: TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY

u mad?

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They don't gonna disable chat parsing don't be stupid.

This but unironically. What the fuck is wrong with blizzdrones

dilate

Orc Warlocks will rule the world.

Troll Mages and Orc Warlocks are patrician's choices

schizoposting

Going to make the whitest looking Human paladin you can make. Homelander looks

Just stop it, get some help. Why do you do this to yourself?

cope harder 40%er, you will never pass as a woman.

>old game
people never played wow for how good it looked, the mechanics are still good and modern games are thoroughly pozzed

>He said with no evidence of me being a tranny
You use more buzzwords than tumblerinas. You have to go back.

you've already outed yourself as a tranny by throwing a tantrum like one.
kys t b h

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>playing caster class
>not going undead
confirmed dumpster trash minmax faggots
let me guess, you also use ui and other 40 pvp helper addons to compensate your lack of skill. Also healbot when raiding, right?

What the fuck level of autism is this?
>defends trump even though he is a jewish puppet
KEK

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what's the point of replaying a game you already played through?

Well i was right about one thing, you're a turbo autist who probably actually does use poopsocks. Shouldn't you be on r/ForeverAlone?

again, most people didn't play for the roleplaying

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i've never even heard of a 'poopsock', how old are you nigger lmao

no one cares about your 3rd world private server

>playing for nostalgia bait

blizzard: "we won't make wow great again, but we will give you the old version for full subscription price"
drones: "HELL YEAH I'M IN"

>playing a game you enjoyed

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>90% of horde is chad
>90% of alliance are cringe
What did he mean by this?

dilate

>Why yes i do pay Blizzard $15 a month how can you tell

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How many retail devs are going to suicide if Classic becomes more popular than retail?

>every single tournament on henhouse was won by a warlock
>not the best class
k

It's been possible for years, and for FREE.

The past is the past, the future is now

None because they didn't care about the game in the first place

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>Orc
>"people who realised how good their racials and would feel like an idiot for picking anything else"
Unfortunately, that's me. I don't want to pick a fucking Orc but I literally have no choice, I simply have to pick Orc, there's no ifs or buts about it, they are leagues ahead of every other race in terms of pure power. Fuck that stupid stun resist racial its ruined the game for me to the point that I barely even want to play because of it.

Anyone who thinks private servers will die is retarded, they'll get more popular if anything.

rolling warrior, if i roll gnome will i still get the ethot soccer moms or do i have to go human warrior?

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I played the stress test. That was my first time playing anything WoW and I gotta say I had fun. It's a little slow and grindy, but nothing I haven't seen in other single player RPGs.

If you're a fan of classic RPGs, I think you'll like WoW Classic.

$15 a month for the real deal is worls better than your powerhungry gold selling "vanillia like" shithole. Every single sever sold items, lvls and gold under the table, all of them went down, not even a single one was "blizz like" at all. Everything was wrong and coded by fucktard that "thought" to remember things.

playing corrupted shit infested by bot and exploiters

Lots of fun, be prepared to die alot in PVP servers. Also don't expect to ever get the best gear unless you dedicate time playing it many hours everyday with a guild who can coordinate properly and isnt full of drama.

Is that what we're arguing? I just prefer skill trees

Why does that jaggy blury mess of a picture turn me on so much?
I want to roll a nelf female now.

okay, and which ones? Only kronos is left.

>implying that Classic won't have the exact same shit

>WOW tokens won't be a thing in classic after 3 months
>Oh no it isn't an exact 1 to 1 recreation of the game! Oh wait, neither is classic
Any more questions pleb?

>warlock isnt, objectively, the strongest class in the game in pvp
this statement is correct, shadow priest is

>undead
troll has better racials for shadow priest

You can't be stupid enough to think that the servers that are closing down will close forever can you? The big servers were making 7 digits a year.

shadow priests aren't even top 5 in 1 vs 1 you zoomer tranny lmao, that meme is hilariously outdated

Stop being little bitch faggot and just play fem orc.

Don't fall for the classic meme.

k

Why not?

goldshire....home....

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Because it's going to be dead in a month anyway. And that's not even talking about how much blizzard already fucked it up and will likely continue to do so as well.

>this statement is correct, shadow priest is
Show me any results. Cuz all tournaments were won by warlocks. Shadow priest is worlds behind warlock in 1v1. You have nothing. against a warlock, felhunter dispells fear, eats your shield, whats left? You can't out dps a warlock either. How fucking retarded are you?

So? I play it for a month, but if I play it for more I'm playing with people that are reliable and skilled. Win/win

is classic really that good? what exactly is so good about it? why should i play it instead of retail?

The guy may be trolling to rile people up but Warlocks are without a doubt the best PvP class. There's literally no debating it.

Gnome is the patrician choice for pvp
Human for pve
NE for meld shenanigans and faster recovery after death
Dwarf for bro tier

Play whatever speaks to you in terms of looks honestly. None of the racials are so broken that you specifically need to play a certain race/class combo

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Do you like talking to other people and making internet friends? Do you like wrangling 39 tards to not wipe on a raid boss? If not, it isn't really the game for you.

I'm playing paladin

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As long as you don't fall for the streamer memes and roll ret, you're fine.

youtube.com/watch?v=lQRJyleSvhc

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yet only 5% of playerbase will risk their account doing this instead of half the server.
you wont ever see this chinese spam on classic

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>retail WoW still has more than 3.5 million subs and it's BFA for fuck sake.

There should be a limit to how much of a fanboy one can be, because this shit is just embarrassing.

or you just play on based slav servers who range banned china entirely

>you wont ever see this chinese spam on classic

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>What could have been
youtube.com/watch?v=lW2zFKnguLo

You have 0 reason to play it if you've never played it.

this is not even remotely true devs who actually worked on vanilla said it only ever increased to 3k

What? I would think this would be the perfect way to jump in. Because it's the literal beginning

which eu realm will there be most sluts on?

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youtu.be/rq_VqQ8e35M?t=17

What is the patrician futa race of choice in classic?

This is the type of person who defends retail or bashes classic on blizzard forums.

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This is the type of person who falls for obvious bait.

>muh lfg tools
>muh party finder

Shouldn't you be playing retail? Those are the main reasons why WoW is so shit nowadays, so BfA is definitely your game.

he's not wrong, though

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Both. If you've never played WoW it will probably still be a fun an entertaining experience.
Nostalgiafags will actually probably hate it more than anyone else because its gonna be fucked up somehow, just fucking wait.

It's not about whether you played it or not but more about how you play it. Anyone trying to rush to the end and ignoring the social aspects is going to have a worse time than someone taking their time and goofing off with other players. If you appreciate the journey in games it's definitely worth playing.

If I play a female human/night elf character does that automatically make me a tranny if I'm a male IRL?

>judgement set
>ret
>getting your shit pushed in by a rogue/warrior in blues

yes
dilate

So I pay for a subscription and that's it, nothing else á la FFXIV buying expansions? Can I play retail too without paying? I'm obviously not going to since classic is out soon but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't curious what the fuck Deathknell looks like in 2019 BfA.

>casual
>LFR
I mean, it seems to be about all you can handle. If you're not even pushing keys then I don't even see the point of playing if you're just going to stand I'm the shallow end.

You need to buy BFA to play retail but you only need a sub to play Classic

I remember playing before they added in diminishing returns and warlocks could just fear you indefinitely lmao

you can play retail up until the lvl 110+ content (BFA) with just a sub
so yes you can go look at deathknell if you think downloading 60gb is worth the disappointment

>need to buy BFA to play classic
aaaaand dropped

learn to read

You illiterate brainlet.

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user I...

Wack, but fine. Thanks for the answers. I might actually give it a download and take a tour before classic comes out.

Fucking hell how do you even fuck up this hard, he wrote sub 20 words and you couldn't even manage that.

and do people want to see me stream it, because that's literally the only reason I would play it.

It's only good for people with nostalgia. However, if you never played WoW it might be good since you can actually discover new content.
The game itself is absolute shit. The only real sellingpoint is dopamin addiction when you get your new epic, which is the only point in classic that is superior to other mmos.

Get a real job.

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Now look at them zoomers, that's the way you do it
You play the Fortnite on the Twitch TV
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Money for nothin' and the donations for free
Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Lemmer tell ya them zoomers ain't dumb
Maybe get a blister on your trigger finger
Maybe get a scratch on your mouse

>do people want to see me
no

>Not picking a human female
>Not being a Warlock
>Not walking around in skimpy as fuck clothes with a succubus out at all points
>Not acquiring your own crew of beta orbiters
>Not masturbating to your own character + succubus inbetween grind sessions
Realistically, what's wrong with you?

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it's time you have sex.

How about fix retail and leave Classic as the original game?

What about fixing classic to a state it becomes good?

So retail?

>cant prove his numbers wrong
dabbed on.

>THERE IS ONLY BLACK AND WHITE

thats my man

>Do you like talking to other people and making internet friends?

If you dont, why even play an MMO? You're better off playing a single player RPG.
I just cant wrap my head around people willing to pay $15/mo for what amounts to a single player game, if they dont like interacting with others.

>talking about retail in a thread about classic

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Can someone explain why boomers fall
so hard for this kinda bait?

I don't know why boomers fall
for this bait myself

What bait? that retails is better than classic?
Well, retail IS better than classic. Both are shit, but retail is better.

there's not enough information to know if that's sampled or if it's the true total population; i have to assume it's the former

>wow lore states succubus basically falls in total love with their summoner
>tfw want to write a story about a warlock getting more than she can handle as her succ goes full yandere

>Paying a $15 sub for a gane that came out a decade ago and that won't reveive any new content
Literal drug addiction hype, Classic having a sub and not being F2P/B2P is pure and just scam

Bait, but not completly wrong

poorfags gated LUL

based blizzard keeping all the poorniggers like you out

>Don't want to support obvious kikery=poor
Literal admitting to be a drug addicted and see in Classic the next dopamine rush
Wow

shaman weapon enhancements operate on procs per minute. so you won't notice a significant dps increase with a faster weapon since more swings won't generate more procs on average. windfury is different since the proc generates an instant second attack, so you want slow heavy-hitting weapons since they have higher top-end damage numbers, meaning heavier double hits and crits.

why wouldn't you just join /4? it's the same fucking thing

is /4 world in retail?

idk, i don't play retail. i'm talking about classic

Classic is still retail compared to the 1.12 client pservers use.

Would like to know as well

Yep if you like:
1) Fantasy world to explore
2) RPG
3) MMORPG
4) Warcraft

WOW classic is a tremendous step back from where MMOs have gone in the past 10 years, but thats not a bad thing since WOW clones are a cancerous blight on the industry.

In reality we needed a new game that actually understood what made vanilla WOW so good in the first place, which is the open world exploration experience, and not the gay as fuck boss farms that MMOs have become in the past 10 years.

Why the fuck would I raid when games like Monster Hunter exist and does that shit better, why would I grind honor for 100 hours to finally stop getting 1 shot in BGs only for my progression to reset every 6 months, when I could just play a MOBA where everyone is on equal footing and the gameplay is more dynamic then fucking spinning flags for 20 minutes.

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>succubus
>not getting knotted by felhunter

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sauce me up, pal, that sounds right up my alley

it's quite simple user
youtube.com/watch?v=1faGNp9xvNQ

rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=assumi felhunter

user

what do you do in MMOs. is it worth it for someone who's never played MMOs before?

Welcome to the least played club

you're always useful and no one is quite sure why

#NOCHANGES
#NOCHANGES
#NOCHANGES
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR TOOLS THAT NEVER EXISTED IN VANILLA (never played it btw)
FUCK OFF TO BFA TRANNY
#NOCHANGES
#NOCHANGES
#NOCHANGES
CALL TO ARMS? WHAT THE FUCK IT IS TRANNY? WE DON'T WANT CHAT PARSER TO ALLOW BETTER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PLAYERS FORMING GROUPS
WE WANT TO SOCIALIZE LIKE BACK IN THE DAY OF VANILLA (never played it btw)
GO BACK TO BFA WITH YOUR CONVENIENCE TOOLS TRANNY
BASED BLIZZARD FOR NUKING API (who cares of collateral damages, what the fuck but i use these addons that are killed by the API changes wtf?!)
#NOCHANGES
#NOCHANGES
#NOCHANGES
INVITE TO ASMON LAYER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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truth hurts heh?

Literally none of what you said applies to me

Because nobody gave a fuck about the stress test and only 10 people got invited to the beta dumbass

Blizzard isn't nuking api, they are pruning it so people cant make dumbshit social apps. Meters, indicators, and other UI garbage will still exist

It doesnt cost anything though?

It cost $15/month retard

Is it difficult to play on RP servers?

Yeah but you don't have to buy the game itself

Whats the difference? You still pay for it, a sub for a decade old game with closed content development already
Literally "Here, your hot steamy plate of shit my dear customer" and you are going to eat it
B2P and then no sub cost would have been the only acceptable model for Classic but no, rather playing retail at this point if i still have to pay a sub

>succubus basically falls in total love with their summoner
Wasn't it the opposite? and then the succubus tempt them to join the burning legion?

>or is it only good for people with nostalgia?
kinda, but depends for example do you like gothic games? if you do you will like vanilla wow

they just want best for their master
and seriously considering the lore middle management position in legion doesn't sound bad

I'd agree if Fel didn't fuck over your body so badly.

They hated him for he told the truth

Pure distilled SOUL

>it was so comfy
I want to relive Ulduar patch, best time in WoW. Everything went to hell right after it.

Ulduar sure, the rest? Not so much. I'd say Icecrown but Totc fucked up the expansion too much

the heroic switch is what fucked it up the most. they went the lazy path. now you have what? 5 difficulties on retail and stretching raids? fuck that.
content must be difficult enough as is, maybe players would stop whining about drought all the time

10 man ICC and RS was comfy

>be a normal, skilled player
>clear the raid fucking day 1 'cause it's meant to be hard but it's actually not or people would complain on how they can't access 95% of the raids because they're shitters
Difficulties are not what made the game shit, they made it better.

These threads are chock fucking full of people who don't know what they are talking about giving shitty "advice" to people who do

Why do you do this? Why do you pretend? I think I am going to trust my thousands of hours of tanking experience more than your utterly retarded and wrong recommendation to use heroic strike for generating threat in 5 mans thank you

for 3% of players, sure.

>his channels final video

it still hurts

>braindead apes have LFR
>shitters have Normal
>normal people have Heroic
>skilled people have Mythic
You mean 100% of the players...?

Can I still role a warlock and summon an infernal and release it in Goldshire watching it massacre everyone in its path?

yeah, and it used to be 40% of players got gear and 60% were shitters that couldn't get in the raid.
now everyone got everything and see how well it works.

PSA levelling Warriors: you use Sunder Armor & Revenge to generate threat whilst tanking, not heroic strike
Only those two abilities unless you are constantly capped at 100 rage which is a rare event in the entire game
Thank you

That's not a problem with difficulties, that's a problem with loot. Not difficulties fault if a LFR ape gets the same ilvls of an Heroic player.
If you just mean "only good players gets to see the content and that's the reward" you're just dumb and WoW would've failed and died 10 years ago if they followed this logic

worked fine up to TBC

>introduce hard modes/heroic dungeons
>game reaches its peak in popularity/subs
Wow, I wonder why!

If that's how you feel, you dont have to be here

why's she so perfect

we've been over this, game peaked on word of mouth pre wotlk, then it went FLAT, giant decline after wotlk because everyone was disappointed by the direction

WoTLK's population was mostly stagnate all the way through with no major jumps in population like Vanilla and TBC

Wasn't it because the first raid tier was piss easy and left people with months of farming raids right out of the gate?

Im going to play druid and heal
Because once bc comes out ill be unkillable

Playing double resto in 2v2 and forcing people to leave is the most fun I've ever had in WoW

even newbies weren't feeling naxx was difficult
besides raiding wasn't as hugely important as it is now, at least that's how I remember it

Bliz already said devilsaur mafia would be banned due to two faction guild keeping a zone on lockdown is against the TOS

>Tfw no cute bobcut succu gf

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I rejoined a guild of a bunch of my vanilla buds alongside my real life ones. Everyone's a dad or busy with work and shit but it's going to be fun despite that. I guess I'm officially hyped

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ever played cookie clicker? they're that but 3D and multiplayer

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Was that due to increase player skill or naxx getting nerfed into the ground?

>Level 30 slog
>Literally spent 2 weeks going from 34 to 35 because at school five days a week

Ah good times. Has it really been 15 fucking years?

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Blizzard just felt bad that so few players got to see the inside of Naxx in vanilla that they made it the first raid so everyone got in without difficulty.

How deluded are all these people who think they will be raiding within the first month? Or is that actually feasible if you no life it to 60?

WotLK had some really shitty stuff in it, but it had Ulduar so I'm torn on it.

Those hardcore first world kill people might not be wrong but everyone else is in for a shock.

Feasible.

Can someone comment on what launch questing will be like? Will people just line up for every single quest or what is it like?

You will be better off skipping a lot of quests and just killing shit

Fighting over mob spawns.

sneed

I read in a previous thread that a lot of Yea Forums is going to Whitemane? Is that true?

Christ, I fucking hope not. I had no choice to go there and I would rather play with literal trannies over the faggots from this shithole

5 man groups will be very common. Certain quests will be an automatic skip and you will be better off grinding mobs elsewhere to make up the difference

yes

Does experience gains change depending on the size of the party?

If I was playing this game, I wouldn't be power leveling to race to endgame. You would think being blessed with a classic revival once in a life time opportunity, you would try to make the best of it and finish every hub.

The literal only good game franchise the koreans have ever made made is Kingdom Under Fire and even then KuF2 is getting turned into what seems like a soulles mmo so RIP to that

it isnt exactly hating to be alive

>be kid
>no agency, no money, everyone tells you it will be better
>10 years pass
>clown world

I cant blame anyone wanting to escape

Well it will be a nightmare. Every zone will have too many players in it, you'll be rushing to get the mobs needed for quests. Partying up is fine for missions like "Kill 10 boars" but the moment it becomes "Collect 10 boar hides" you're in trouble because you actually need to kill 50, so everyone can get their drops (assuming 5 man). Which is fine when its not launch and there are plenty of boars to go around, not fine when its 500 people in one space.

If you want to actually level up you're better off leaving the zone and finding some low level mobs you can grind off away from people, there are actually a lot of spots for all races to do this. Or you could rush herbs/ore and try to get ahead of the pack just leveling your professions.

It could be like this for weeks, dungeons are good for leveling too but you need to get to the right level to do them, then you can just use the instance to grind mobs.

How do stances work for warriors in terms of accessibility? Are they off GCD? Do they have cooldowns? What stops me from macro'ing a stance change (and reversion) onto every move that will require one?

The fact that you lose all your rage the moment you switch.

There is a talent that reduces the drop by 40% but its not enough to justify switching often, if at all.

I think it splits with two people, then you get a bonus with a third person so it's not 33% but something like 40% xp.

Oh i see. I assume you would usually jist stay in berserker stance anyway for the most part right?

>classic will do well for maybe a month then crash and burn hard
>I hope one day that I will have the blinding lack of self awareness and overabundance of confidence to believe my opinion is objective fact
holy hell

Seems like a 50/50 chance of getting jacked or fucked up really.

Experience is divided between the players but you get more experience when you have more than 3 players.

Solo 1x exp
Duo 1x exp
Trio 1.1x exp
Quad 1.2x
Quint 1.3x

dont listen to trannies like I hate the idea of layering but it worked in beta as well as the stress tests

for the chad faction:

deathknell is a combination of too many players and too many fetch quests, but once you leave for brill everything is smooth again
mulgore is peak comfy, no bottle neck anywhere
valley has some bottlenecks up until razor hill but we are talking minutes and not hours her

For leveling pretty much, taking down mobs as soon as possible is key. Unless tanking in which case you just stick to proc. Of course you can still switch but its situational.

>beta
>stress tests
Lol

>blizzard has gotten better
>7 year vet

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If I'm an undead lock and want a fly wolf should I leave right away for Orange Rock Bad land? I guess waiting for ph 2 for the AV mount is also an option since it looks sick

>maybe retail will be a nicer place without them stinking it up
I know 9 people planning on playing classic and none of them play retail.

Yeah you should. Don't know if you get enough rep from doing all the quests in vanilla. I remember people turning in runecloth to a guy in orgrimmar for the last bit of rep.

Yes.

>what do you do in MMOs.
Traditionally: you explore strange new worlds and murder the local wildlife.
Now: rush to the end to run the same boring content over and over for slightly higher numbers. I seriously have my doubts that WoW Classic will put an end to this poofter mindset (doubly so since WoW is the game that popularised it) but it would be nice.

>500 posts
How?

Frenchies and canadians caught wind of Stalagg and infested it.
Skeram is the sleeper best now

Hmmm
December followed by decemembef, followed by rectangulon followed by smarch, followed by santa's month.

same. I can't wait.

>Me and my two best friends just downloaded and created our characters last night after talking on discord for 2 hours
God I'm not sure if I picked the right skin color. I'll have to check it again now that I'm not as drunk