Are they really as bad as people say...

It's just redditparrots, they've never even used it. You're probably one too OP, can't fool me.

1. They're not stolen
2. I don't give a shit, if it's illegal the devs and companies that think it's illegal should get off their asses and go after them, I'm not going to pay more for no reason.

>how an entire marketplace based on fraud can exist
That's because it doesn't. Devs will tell you that to try garner some sympathy, but it can't be true.
The complaint to be had is that by carrying out a charge back, game devs are charged the refund plus the chargeback fee, putting them in the red.
Why this is bullshit is because you can't magic up keys for a game out of thin air, they have to be generated by the developer. This means that either
>the dev should clean house, since a rouge programmer is selling keys illegally
>the dev should stop selling huge numbers of keys at wholesale prices to unverified buyers (who may or may not be using a stolen card)
On your other point
>why would thieves sell stuff cheap
If you have stolen product, you want to get rid of it ASAP. Selling cheap is the best way to do that. Easier to explain why you have say $100 than it is to explain why you have $1000 worth of steam gift cards.

Never had issues with buying from them.

How G2A works for the people selling to it:
>go on dark web
>buy a bunch of stolen credit card details
>buy loads of keys with stolen credit card
>sell keys for dirt cheap to G2A for free money

But obviously the purchases will be charged back, leaving G2A with a key at 0 cost to anyone but the publisher, who have to pay for the game and the chargeback fees too

They are certainly crooks.
They use stolen cards to buy copies of games before the purchases can be discovered and rectified, as well as using foreign accounts to purchase games at a great discount (and sell at western prices).

That being said sometimes piracy isn't an option and nobody on Yea Forums cares about ethics anyway

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>They use stolen cards
It's the banks fault.
>using foreign accounts to purchase games at a great discount
absolutely based

G2A does absolutely nothing wrong.

how is this supposed to be true when illegally obtained keys are dropped and useless? If G2A was peddling as many stolen keys as devs claim they are, there would be a shitload of complaints of people having their keys deactivated from a chargeback.

from this article: gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-07-05-g2a-we-want-to-finally-stop-the-accusations-weve-been-getting
>The retailer then went into depth on how keys are obtained before they come to G2A, stressing that the "overwhelming majority" are sold by wholesalers who buy directly from developers and publishers. It also emphasised the challenges of validating every key sold through its marketplace.

to me it seems like retarded devs give out a bunch of their keys hoping for free and easy exposure but cry when those same keys they handed out get sold legally

fpbp

G2A don't do that, their sellers supposedly do. Another way sellers get keys is by asking devs for them pretending to be streamers. Others get the keys they sell in a more legit way.

>to me it seems like retarded devs give out a bunch of their keys hoping for free and easy exposure but cry when those same keys they handed out get sold legally
yep, or stupid pricing where the game is half the price in another country once you convert currency, so people get a ton of cheap keys from elsewhere and sell them for normal prices

Still waiting for any indie to provide proof of the stolen keys.

If the devs complain why would I pay?

if I buy PSN cards from g2a does that mean I'm potentially harming sony

It's a marketplace.
It's as bad as Amazon or eBay, which means it depends on the seller you buy from.
Highly rated sellers are unlikely to do anything illegal.

>g2a offers to by x10 the cost of chargebacks to devs
>only requirement is that they provide proof
>nobody takes them up on it
>Jim Sterling goes as far to claim this is g2a acting like its a non-issue, yet if the numbers are true, would set them back hundreds of thousands of dollars
And this has suppose to have happened countless times to loads of indie developers? Haha

Right here, bro:
kotaku.com/developer-fumes-about-keyseller-g2a-but-admits-he-was-1837252091
>“It does appear that G2A is right,” Cleveland told Kotaku today, citing G2A’s denial that they were the source of $30,000 worth of charges tied to stolen keys for Natural Selection 2 in 2013. “They weren’t the source of these original $30k keys. It doesn’t LOOK like they were selling gray-market keys at the time we had all those chargebacks. But they’ve been doing it ever since.”

>cucktaku

>hurr durr

>No you can't buy those stolen keys, you have to support the developers!

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I don't give a fuck what G2A does, as long as the key works and its cheap

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>ok i'll admit i was lying and there's no proof
>and it still doesn't look like they're doing it, but i'll once again say they are without proof

>stolen keys

the devs are to blame themselves for giving away keys for free

learn to read retard, they state that they have no proof

I was obviously pretending to be retarded, but I guess directly quoting the part stating that it was only real in his mind wasn't obvious enough for big brains like you.
Next time I'll end my post with /s.

Go back to plebbit.

nice comeback, kid

>i-i-its just satire guys!!!
Back you go, am-i-go.

G2A sucks but not because of any stolen key bullshit.

why then?

probably because of all of the scummy tactics they use to increase the price of the key you buy

I feel like this is what consistutes a lot of G2A inventory. If I buy shit with Rubles it's typically at least -40% off the price compared to canuckbucks

if you're referring to the 'protection' or whatever they want you to buy, yeah i agree that shouldn't be a thing. But physical retailers have been pushing this on people for years and nobody really cares.
Besides, you'd have to be a complete rube to actually decide to buy it in the first place

it's the one thing that G2A doesn't comment on. they'll vehemently deny any other fuckery but never call out their business as coming from these sources, else the well will dry up

What, the extra 10% fee they add on orders? How is g2a showing the 10% fee they take shady?
g2a shield isn't even active by default, nor is the trial membership thing.

i didn't write shady, just scummy
they state it clearly enough but not everyone looks

I rarely buy, but if I do it's from g2a. Just bought simcity4 for $1.25, and it runs like shit and im not angry.

Should care less... cheap keys are cheap keys.

>mfw I hurt a publisher I don't like by buying there

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>pirate 5 copies
>buy 5 more on G2A

i'm taking these motherfuckers down myself

it doesn't matter if the majority of keys were bought legit. one guy who buys 100 keys with credit card fraud costs the developer $3000+, which is a lot when your game is only selling for $5. the site only exists so scumbag chinks and slavs can profit off idiots too dumb to pirate at the expense of everyone else.

>one guy who buys 100 keys with credit card fraud costs the developer $3000+
oh you mean like this guy?
it's complete and total bullshit that's meant to drum up sympathy. nobody can ever prove these supposed mass influx of stolen keys. Plus keys that are confirmed fraud are blocked out and the sellers are banned, someone can't just shit out 100 bogus keys and get off scot-free

mangagaymers lost their credit card processor because of it

what mangagamers said from an article about this:
>“When a chargeback occurs on purchase of a $40 game, we lose both the $40 from the canceled sale, and take a $30 penalty. So at a hundred fraudulent purchases, that’s $3,000 lost; $30,000 if there are 1000 keys stolen.”

Sounds more like an issue with the chargeback system than anything else. Anybody could spam chargebacks, this issue has nothing to do with keysellers, why should they take the hit?

Also, adding the $40 as a 'lost sale' to the total is completely asinine. This is a scammer who's specifically trying to avoid paying, there was never any intention to pay $40 in the first place. Adding that in to the total is just disingenuous

but it is a lost sale
it is a paid copy of the game that is on the market, which they have to pay for twice.

>which they have to pay for twice
they don't have to pay any extra, it's a digital product with infinite copies

besides, at that point the keys are fraudulent and illegitimate and if they actually cared as much as they seem to they could easily have those taken down

>infinite copies
>what is market saturation

It is as if publishers and devs wouldnt know that there is a huge market of reselling keys, yet they are here selling them the keys

>the solution to stop key reselling is to stop selling your game
brilliant, you should be in charge of a video game company

There's no reason to buy a key from these sites. Piracy is better in every way. If you don't want to give the devs money, why give it to some chink, BR, or vlad?

because i want a fully supported version of the game and not have to resort to gameranger or whatever to play online

that's the thing, they're not selling them at full retail price. They're knowingly giving away cheap/free keys to people and getting upset when they turn around and sell them on a legal marketplace

to play online

denuvo

You have to be retarded to buy anything that's not bundle keys and get scammed. In that sense it is perfectly safe.

hey i already know more about selling than a seething tranny faggot that deifys a indie game homo dev, who wouldve guessed

go back to your discord server again, your safe space where you actually dont need to try and argue with people that are not as mentally disabled as you are

i don't get why they are in the spotlight, they are neither the most scummy neither do they have the best prices

Can you prove the keys are stolen? No? Then you're a greedy ass moron that is pissy because people buy your content for cheap thanks to these bundle websites.

g2a is based, ignore the campaign by asshurt devs. Only retards get scammed on g2a, just don't buy keys from people named "x911823713" with 3 reviews