Classic WoW Has LFD

>this is virtually no different than using mirc in 2005 to organize grps
Minus the social interaction
Plus the item level shit
And armory checking etc

Yes did you think they were going to add something that prevented addons entirely from being made? Thats not their fault.

What do you want them to do? Go around and constantly changing code to break group finding addons?

>false flagging retail zoomie who watches twitch all day

BFA is literally dead, classic+ will happen and they won't put much effort in the next expansion sorry.

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>anti-WoW Classic thread again
Every thread until you guys kill yourselves.

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blizz already made a statement

Proof?

statement

im on mobile but search for that 2018 blizzcon classic panel

Can someone make a ResetERA version of the comic?

hey should i roll warlock?
hey is there a warlock leveling guide?

There's a fucking void elf in the picture, how is this classic?

we all used vQueue on p servers and while it technically had a function to easily make groups with other users of the addon it primarly was used as chat parsing so you could find messages with keywords about people looking for groups
it was really useful in a sense that you could have trade and world chat in a another chat tab and wouldn't have to constantly check on em

based

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I tried to tell you guys that this would happen, and guess what? EVERYONE will use it. Raider.io is going to exist in some capacity in classic as well so you'd might as well read up on it now because it's going to dominate your entire experience. Don't even think about experimenting with your class because the classic community is going to be incredibly elitist - if you aren't a meta class with a meta spec down to the letter you won't even get into Deadmines, let alone step foot into a raid.

Classic is going to be a huge success, an absolute smash fucking hit, but it's not going to be anything like what you remember.

>the shitter minmaxers will use this while everyone else (the vast majority of players) will group and socialize like normal
>they still have to travel and communicate anyways
>Don't have to deal with "muh optimal spec/gear hur dur"
Sounds like a win-win to me

C O P E

dead in under 2 months btw

An addon that will become mandatory

Eh, there is nothing wrong with this. Just a different format of spamming Trade or the designated LFG world channel.

WoW has the same thing. You can get banned for naming yourself "Twogenders".

no, you'll get asked nicely to change your name

this comic is amazing because it implies that people are already playing this unreleased game.

just admit you're an autistic bedwetter that no one would miss if you died. all wow fags must fucking hang.

Small changes is what removes the vanilla feel. With enough changes it turns into a different game.

That's what I like about vanilla. We had like 15-20 tryhards and the rest were casuals. We had a lot of boomers who would talk shit all night long on vent. It was really fun. Everybody got so exited when we killed a new boss and people got a piece of gear. We had pretty much no elitism. We didn't follow any meta and brought the people who would show up. I have zero interest in playing vanilla other than to fuck around.

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there's no problem if its only on your server , which its how it should always been
i'm not playing this non-vanilla shit anyway

lul, what has gaming come to

can't even make fun of trannies anymore without getting the banhammer

you sound mad tranny

I will write an addon on the weekend that will filter messages sent by this addon. Because that's the fucking extent it can do. You retards fall for everything.

ORDER
IN
THE COURT

they're sitting in a couch watching it. are you blind?

The cope here is amazing. Wow is dead. Classic will die within a year when people realize they are playing a 15 year old game and its not that fun as it was when they were kids.

God I'm so glad I held onto my dick and didn't play XIV

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YES!!!
Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!
People should be FORCED AND REQUIRED to be my friends and interact with me and see how cool and great I am and make epic stories about me!
It’d be great I’d go into trade and say “hey friends :)” and everyone will be like “oh shut it’s Shikozolover!!!! The greatest feral Druid in ya server!!”...
Fuuuuuuck... it was gonna be epic...

fucking duh. in case you fucking zoomers forgot: vanilla had a looking for group tool.

>did you think they were going to add something that prevented addons entirely from being made?

Why would they not ? Do they not care about the game experience ? Players are walking all over them with this right now and are going to destroy WoW Classic as soon as it starts.

they're copying FFXIVs party finder system

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What LFD?

Yeah, it was called /3. Aside from that, no. No it did not.

You know Classic had addons right?

>they're copying FFXIVs party finder system
What did you expect? only trannys would use this crap

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>No one is waiting around to be ur friend, nerd. They just want fast gear.
then why play an mmo at all

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>Its just like 2005!!!
>Its home!

Its not though lol. Its dated 15 year old content that everyones played to death already and know all the best classes and strats.
nu-blizzard already started banning certain stuff or the removal of stuff like all the skeletons etc. Youre all a bunch of delusional fucktards if you think this will be good. WoW was good for a while but bringing back a "classic" wont make it any better.

>the barneyfag

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Yeah, but those "shitters" are going to have the strongest characters. And as far as I'm concerned being stronger than other players is an important factor in MMORPGs.

It doesn't mean you can't have fun with your weak-ass friends though.

zoom zoom

You sure? I had that addon during Nostalrius.

Then that is a failure of the developers to not properly control the mutts and slags that play their game.

I don't see what you have to gain by lying to yourself. There were no tools for LFG except the chat designed for it. The LFG tool came in shortly before BC in preparation for most players migrating to BC content and not leaving people behind in vanilla content.

Nobody is going to use that shit, except for a fraction of zoomers checking Classic for first week and then logging off to their belf demon hunter or some other panda bear.

If I'm remembering right, the original LFG tool wasn't added until either 1.12 or 2.0; before then it was just the chat channel

>nobody is going to use quest helper
>nobody is going to use dbm
>nobody is going to use gearscore

come on nigga, you know its gonna be like that.

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That’s an XIV tranny he doesn’t know literally everything in his game is copied from wow, even the looking for X tool, which wow had in tbc/wrath but nobody used because you didn’t run more than a single faceroll dungeon a day.

Sounds like you just dont like WoW then. Why are you here? WoW has always had addons that provide functionality. People are just better at it now.

OMG GUYS CLASSIC HAS LFG CHAT CHANNEL LITREALLY DEAD IN 2 MINUTES

>barney
That's a fucking teletubby you underage

>nobody is going to use gearscore

This is probably true though, gearing and itemization is all over the fucking place in vanilla.

>gearscore
Are you literally retarded? Nobody used any kind of gear score measurements systems in vanilla. Not to mention there's no need for it.

if nublizzard has even a tiny spec of respect for vanilla they should ban this

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Gearscore doesn't work that way in vanilla, Legionlet. Theres cases where level 30-40 gear is BiS for some specs.

honestly a vibrating buttplug connected to your gameplay performance sounds like a good way of getting non-visual feedback
you could use it for procs and stuff, pretty helpful

Its true.

twitter.com/animeman76/status/1164737803676053504?s=21

I wonder why they even have stats yet in WoW if gearscore is so important. Let's leave only gearscore so zoom zooms have it even easier to understand. Let's rename it to 'awesomeness'.

>Why are you here?

To argue

>they're copying FFXIVs party finder system

FFXIV's PF doesn't require you to vet somebody from joining your groups. If they're the right job and ilevel they just pop in automatically

why are you all so worried about these '''''''''''''''LFG''''''''''''''''' addons, they're literally just chat parsers

I always said addons were cancer to the game

gearscore can be modified to work with vanilla. people already figured out the ilvl formula for vanilla on the official forums over a decade ago.

that's DF not PF.

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Not really. Theres a lot of choices between gear you'll wanna change out for every situation and even depending on who is in the group. You're trying to conjure up drama and worry where its not. Vanilla is honestly easy as FUCK and theres no need for gearscore.

>I wonder why they even have stats yet in WoW if gearscore is so important

It's not, on retail, someone with their worst secondaries and shit azerite traits is going to perform much worse than someone with the proper gear; most people are now using some autists scoring system, which leads to a different problem of not being able to get into anything because you can't get into anything.

Also 8.2 introduced 425 gear you can get from grinding dailies that's on par with 445 mythic raid gear.

>Vanilla is honestly easy as FUCK and theres no need for gearscore.
you underestimate how dumb the Vanilla WoW audience is.

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Avoiding this addon will be an easy way to avoid zoomer faggots.

LFD group 7....Layer 4....Home....,.

SeeThey are shitplayers who get triggered when you don’t want to carry them.

Do you realize there are items like Crowd Pummeller from Gnomeregan that are BIS for feral druid throught game (Naxx including)? Classic doesn't work like retail. There's no magic formula. The only way would be to benchmark gear and create score manually for each and every item. The quality of gear would also depend on class.

You see, that's the kind of nuance that is completly absent in nu-Blizz games.

No, i'm absolutely certain when you want to join a PF (Player-created) group you can just hop right in if you meet the group creator's criteria. The group leader can set the ilevel requirement and what jobs they're accepting, but when it comes down to it you don't get to check who you're inviting before they plop right in to your party. I mean technically they could kick you if they don't want you after you joined but nobody in FFXIV is direct enough to ever do that; they'll just quietly duck out themselves first.

You can't fool me I play both games

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Asmon isn't particularly bad at the game. He Mythic raids, albeit slowly. Raids in vanilla were easier than modern LFR mechanically, and all thats required is getting geared and consumables.

>I play both games
clearly you don't or you suck at both you backpedal S key scrub

>and theres no need for gearscore.
>Ah sorry cant invite you to the raid, I see you dont have your Pre Raid BiS. Maybe next time good luck finding them :)

>Confirmed not in since 2018
>People still use it to try to shittalk the one good mmo ever made
youtube.com/watch?v=hhKkP8LryYM&feature=youtu.be&t=2015

Sure thing.

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imagine wasting your life shitting on a thing you won't play and don't like

got nothing good going on in your life and all your favorite games are shit, huh? haha

You dont think that didn't happen after inspecting someone's gear back in the day anyway?

Modding your game to fix blizzard's oversights is part of the vanilla experience.

>doesn't know how the PF system works
>SCRUB NOOB

>remove official dungeon finder
>community adds dungeon finder back

woah

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People played the beta and its so big right now their servers cant handle the amount.

this shit is legitimately going to explode. Imagine missing out on a group invite just because your name isnt on the chart. Also /3 will be full of automated spam because its expected you will use the cancer addon

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Neither does retail, that’s why good players don’t use gear score and never have.
Nowadays it’s r.io and wowlogs/progresssion rather than gearscore.

>Raising the Roof in the year of our Lord 2019?

Absolutely based madlad.

go play retail. We want the old game as it was

On my server back then. For MC pugs? Never happened to me.
And I was a dungeon baby with Dungeon set and got invited to MC Pugs anyway. 1 Time I even saw a lvl 59 in a raid too.

>Raids in vanilla were easier than modern LFR mechanically

it doesn't matter how many mechanics LFR has, they don't matter if they barely do damage, do they?

good look doing lucifron if you don't decurse

This image is too accurate

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So you're not complaining about addons, you're saying modern MMO players are more elitist than before?

Will layers ruin the server economy?

the vanilla experience is having 1 cancer addon, without decursive it falls to this

>Asmon isn't particularly bad at the game.
Dude has green logs, got carried on pvp and never even got 2-3k r.io (which you cannot be carried to).
He does not mythic raid after he had to do more than just attend.
His DPS and mechanical awareness is trash.
By the fucking way he’s played WoW for over 15 fucking years.
If you want a paid shill who at the least isn’t hot garbage or tries not to watch Preach.

>caring about people playing a game rather than the game itself
wow is dogshit and boring & xivarr is great (at least at launch)

>b-but this person you've never heard of before plays WoW!
lol

>sign up for queue as healer
>get queued with 3 ret paladin dps and 1 prot paladin tank

no thanks

Yes

Classic WoW players are this IRL

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sh-shut up, im going home, it was fine when i was 20....

exact same shit happens in osrs
people used to play like absolute fucking idiots, doing things like running rune essence to the air altar
now everything is about being as efficient as humanly possible

I wonder why you demoralization faggots always ignore private servers and their devoted playerbases.

True but there comes a point when it gets a bit ridiculous. I remember back in the day the most successful mage by far on our server was a female undead. He went on to achieve rank 14, become Scarablord, got Atiesh and was the first to hit level 70. Nowadays some min/max private server babby would tell him he can't come Molten Core because he doesn't have troll berserk.

Go clean your plug vibrator, FFXIV tranny.

Paladin-only parties are kino.

I'm playing Classic with a group of like 15 people I know IRL, so it should be a great time. Frankly, the people who obsess about Classic's failure are kind of ridiculous. I assume it's mostly falseflaggers.

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its not automatic
party leader still has to pick whom to invite. If anything this will make retardin and feral lives even worse

Blizzard already confirmed that these type of addons wont be allowed.

asmon just gets carried for clout
you often see him afk in dungeons or whatever just eating or talking to chat while the rest of the group is fighting the boss
>yo can I have that?

>REEEE CONVENIENCE IS NOT ALLOWED
dead in the water lmao

No they haven't lmao, this is the same as an addon that was in vanilla already.

literally me

We're going home bros....

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The same thing happens in retail and it's always been like that. Some guilds are hardcore and expect you to be as good as you can and some of them are casual and just like having "fun". If it's the same playerbase why the hell would it be different?

>Paying 15$/month for a 15 year old game

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Just don't play on a streamer server

just like i remember

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Trannies don't play pvp

Omg that's what Henry Cavil looks like?

You didnt mention the previously cleared toggle. Seems you dont actually play XIV.

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Dilate.
Zoomer who has never played vanilla.

Ian on addons.
youtu.be/hhKkP8LryYM?t=2495

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>no one's joining my trade chat party
>less group spam in trade chat means more guild advertisement spam
>everyone else is zoomin with the lfg addon
>addon becomes mandatory to do everything and anything now
>tfw want the TRUE VANILLA EXPERIENCE

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This is legit bumming me out. There are going to be way more people who are okay with this than not.

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You've been posting this webm at least 2-3 times a day for 3 months user. I get you want to shitpost, but Christ man.

Blizzard should instead place some "dungeon finder board" in the middle of main cities.

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You will progress faster and safer with a paladin group before 50+ dungeons, albeit trash will be cleared slower.

>just got off work so you can get your cut

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is classic the new minecraft

>Implying that filters out anything
You'll still get people who have only cleared once and have no clue about the fight. I spent July teaching people Titania in groups that already had everyone cleared.

Keeps out the poors. Just look at private servers, TF2, and Fortnite.

>In summary:
>It has an auto-invite feature
>It will auto-spam chat channels (you and the invited party members)
>It can communicate with other users of the addon WITHOUT posting anything to a chat channel
>It will post your spec (how many points you allocated in each tree

EU bros, he's coming home

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vanilla had addons like that too

nobody used them because they only worked with other people who had the addon

>cleared toggle
You mean "carried"?

Classic WoW is 1.12.1

LFG/LFD, even LFR wouldn't be that bad, all it does it cut down on time you spend spamming Trade chat.

The real problem is CROSS-REALM. With LFG you would still meet people, make contacts, join guilds, build up a reputation, punish ninja-looters. Cross-realm shit is what gutted all of that and destroyed the social aspect of the game.

who

It was called CallToArms and its functionality was identical. Blizzard can't break this addon without breaking everything that communicates via chat channels. Too much collateral to be removable.

World of Warcraft Classic ™ is the greatest marketing move ever since Coke Classic ™.

>Clear for my friend then farm
>only one person in the group

I've never watched him stream. Is he a chill guy, or a faggot like those method guys?

Not enough to keep out the poors, but definitely enough to show you are a sucker of monolithic proportions.

most successful guild master, dad, husband and citizen

>THE STREAMRES ARE GONNA RUIINN ITT!!
>THE ADDONSS ARE GONNA RUIIIN ITT!!

They don't realize that all this stupid internet nerd shit is going to get steamrolled by a bunch of stoners and randos just playing the fucking game

CallToArms didn't auto-invite people.

This only does if you check the checkbox like the OP did; fucktard. It's not on by default.

It definately is. You should have seen Tf2 after it was converted, and you obviously never played vanilla back in 2006 if you think private servers are no different.

CallToArms worked more like a pseudo chat channel, just with a better UI. It still required you to sift through potential groups and manually invite or message people to join the party. Its far from LFD or LFG in later versions of the game.

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Every day I will remind them.

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This
People here don't go past reddit and twitch, 5 of my buddies what dont go to that shit just randomly appear in my life in past half a year after losing touch with me and now we are just going to ruing our lives, they dont use addons, dont watch streams and dont know what reddit is

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Thanks for reminding me why classic is going to shit all over BFA.

You act like this is something bad. Retail seethers.

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You dont understand. What streamers and casuals do with money is my business.

imagine caring about an addon because you dont already have a bunch of friends to play classic wow with.
im very sorry for you guys in this situation.

Between Classic and XIV retail is fucking dead, lil zoom.

>no xenopause in the alpharift
>can't double-charge the icon sphere
>takes four iterations for a full cast course
>opening smelter chests required a forge key
>can't remount hypertrite without casting hyperspin
>no seventh spec flex rotations
>have to get resonance if you want vibration relays

IT'S LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE MISSING

It's just a lazy addon that right clicks names in chat and does "invite to group" for you. It only reads the chat for keywords like "invite" and "lfg ." It doesn't pull from a pool of players that all have the addon. Dumb zoomer clickbait scare shit. Kys

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Everyday I will remind them.

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And that's all this LFG addon is; it doesn't form the group for you or teleport you to the dungeon. It's just an organizing tool for people LFG.

No it didn't, you had to spam /3 to find a party.

Every day they shall be reminded.

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Gearscore was the beginning of the end for WoW, don't @ me

Classic is going to be more dead than XIV in a month.

Until they come to their senses.

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>can only find other people on your server
>can only find other people on your server that also have the mod
>doesn't port you to the dungeon
>doesn't give you a buff
>doesn't reward you at the end of the dungeon for using it
Can't wait to not have to use it because I've already got friends to do dungeons with.
Blizzard has already said they'll be looking to prevent addons that threaten the core feeling of classic. If it really ends up being that impactful and "mandatory" they'll nuke it as they did with raid-boss-mechanic ground display add-ons at the end of Draenor.

C O P E

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>the pinnacle of MMO game play

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Nice, I don't have to talk to anyone that's not my friend

>look for party members in chat
>get told to download a lfg addon
fucking zoomers go back to bfa

Classic is trash but so is retail. Once everyone has the chance to run Naxx, WoW will finally die for good, pathing the way for better MMOs.

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Why is there a mount in those bags? Warlocks had Dreadstead?

I hope your servers don't merge to the streamer ones.

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I just hope that classic is successful and there's a shift in retail design philosophy. One can only hope.

It costs mana and it's on the global cooldown.

>look for party members in chat
>get told by zoomers to download a lfg addon
>therefore only get whispers from other boomers
>therefore only do dungeons with other boomers
BASED addon creator putting a pleb filter in the game

hope your game doesn't become a mecca for ERP tranniesOH WAIT

>zoomers
>playing bfa
Classic is already zoomer central. Zoomers can't form opinions on their own so they just follow whatever their favorite streamers say, and they all say that bfa is shit.

Like as WoW classic did?

>fast gear
>in a 15 year old game
They can go play retail.

But you could have another soul shard with that slott

Found the based zoomer that never played WOW

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I would love to see MoP in retail style. It's my favorite nu!WoW expansion and monks have always been my favorite class since they came out.

Holy paladin here. Thanks to this addon I will never accidentally invite a ret paladin to my groups ever again.

>Vanilla shaman
>OP

Not only was Paladin the better class of the two faction specific classes, Shamans were instant lose to any decent mage of any spec.

was the most successful EU in classic though.
engadget.com/2008/03/09/risen-is-mad-as-hell-and-they-arent-going-to-take-it-anymore/

youtube.com/watch?v=lRdgU9ye2A4

I still remember the raid leader, Failure, quitting WoW to play FFXI and remarking how much better it was on the BG forums.

I GUARANTEE you he posts in Asmongold's twitch chat too. Most of the people posting about him do.

I wouldn't say that just yet. But you could very well be correct.

wasn't it /4?

These either are Xiv trannoid players now or play both lmao...

>playing alliance

So I looked into it. It's barely working piece of shit that just spams messages into LFG channel. Wow, stop the fucking presses. Although it is expected that it barely works, the version is only 0.6.
Also, we had vQueue for 4 fucking years and noone cared.
github.com/christoabrown/vQueue

stop talking shit dude, kungen wiped the floor with those losers

>playing horde

Horde ruined WoW

I know i loaded up on more ATVI stock, have been a share holder since 2012.

of course, expect it to work with gear score as well!

Nobody wants /pol/ around, go shoot up a mall retard

>They've decided to tap out of raiding until WoTLK, and they aren't being very shy about telling us why, with a post on their website under the oh-so-witty title "World of Casualcraft."

Then Wrath came out and it was even worse

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There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with LFG
Finding a group with an automated system is sick. All it does is reduce the amount of time you're sitting in Ironforge with your dick in hand shouting /2 "NEED TANK AND HEALER PLS SOMEONE LFM LFM LFM"

What the problem was and always was with WoW, was the dungeon finder. Which was the evolution of the LFG system.

>Teleports you directly to the dungeon so you don't even need to explore the world anymore, nobody needs to summon anyone with spells or meeting stones fuck it just click a UI button
>Cross realm groupmates means nobody cares what you do, trash teammates ruin the run then disappear forever and you never see them again

A UI function that helps you find other guys on your server looking to do the same content and pairs you up so you can find each other faster is absolutely fine

Trying to help you user. Hyping for games that disappoint is awful. See through the nostalgia, peel back the curtain, don't hurt yourself like this.

I got mad during 2.4 and quit. Skipped all of Wrath.

How bad was wrath compared to those free tier 6 handouts?

>Then
Fuck lfg. Fuck everything about automated systems. Even world /lfg is too much. Standing in ironforge/orctoilet shouting is fun!!
>now
THANK GOD FOR AUTOMATIC GROUP FINDING. It's not like it's teleporting you or whatever, idiot, geez, it's just simplifying the tedium.

Outside of the dungeon finder, streamlined dungeon design also made it easier to simply not communicate. Perhaps my memory's not great, but I feel like in vanilla it'd be pretty difficult to go through the dungeons so mechanically.

There are a LOT of factors that made retail into what it is, not just the presence of a matchmaking tool. People are overreacting.

>you can send as many letters as you want
>you can just right-click the buff
>game wants you to actually look around towns/camps/the map and rewards you for exploring
>forces you to learn about your surroundings and rely on memory like a human
>no user limit so doesn't matter
>flavour that becomes irrelevant at high enough prof level
>google you BiS you fag
>they sacrifice an out of combat cooldown-less rez for the ONLY in-combat rez in the game
>imagine playing a paladin
>imagine actually playing a paladin
>their health goes up
>they can't see yours either
>why would you need this information
>stratigically set up the groups to utilise this
>1.12 was post-diminishing returns so rogues get dabbed on and shamans are still entirely based on luck
>this makes lore sense
>this makes lore sense
>this makes lore sense
>they move at the same speed you do in water anyway
>picking the spell rank to use in different situations is a core part of the fucking game
>literal seconds worth of time "wasted"
>IMAGINE ACTUALLY PLAYING A PALADIN
>what is an appraisal
>"hmmm I wonder what spec this frostbolt spamming mage is? oooo and what spec could that sword and shield wearing warrior be??"
>welcome to the jungle
>padantics
>they are feigning death
>go meet people and ask for help like you have to do for nearly all of the game

Nobody hated LFG when it was first implemented in Wrath. Everyone's reactions were that it was convenient as fuck

I member the next patch, the one that introduced the teleporting and later the cross-realm grouping, thats what started driving people away. That was one of the big parts that caused people to start doing raids and dungeons and shit without actually knowing what the mechanics were

>Playing on a PvP server
>In the current year
If you aren't in the biggest guild of the server you are retarded. PvP server are just ganking server for the biggest guilds.
Classic pvp is simply zerging where the zerg with the most mages wins. That's the reason why classic pvp server are just retarded.

If you are a real vanilla player and you know the mechanics of classic you will only play pve. All those streamer who play on PvP have never even played vanilla. At best they are BC babies or they admit that Legion was their first wow expansion.

I don't get what people expect in WORLD pvp? Do you think there is some magic there to make pvp fun? If you like getting ganked then sure, but do you really think that level 60 player who are in a 5 man group and ganking level 48-55 player 5v1 is fun? Do you think "guild pvp" which is simply just mages running into each others zerg and the winner is the guild with more mages is fun?
I don't get what people like about PvP servers. I played vanilla wow and the only good memories of pvp serve is the time I saw someone from the other faction and we parted ways without attacking each other. Everything else was just shit tier ganking (which was pretty much non existent, now you have nu-wow where all those cucks think "if it's red I attack").

The Gurubashi arena is the best example of why PvE server are the best. You want that chest? Here is your PvP. It is fair, you can decide if you want to risk it, you can plan, and most importantly pvp has a meaning with a reward. But nu-pvp server retards won't understand this anyway.
Reminder that PvP servers are for underage, neets, and streamers. People with an actual life and career outside of video games, mostly adults, will be rolling on PVE servers.

t. seething pve'r who got ganked once during the beta

Honestly, from playing TBC, LFG is a godsend when you're going to no doubt have people dropping out of your instances halfway through because they have to go to work the next morning, their girlfriend is demanding sex, their kids are throwing turds all over the place, their mom is screaming at them to go to bed, or some other crap like that. The average person is going to play for less than four hours a day. An instance will likely take at least an hour and a half, and they won't jump into it right after they get online.

cringecope, game is boring as fuck on a pve server

> Everyone's reactions were that it was convenient as fuck

"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game." One thing inexorably, inevitably, lead to the next. Of course they liked it. Of course it was convenient. It lopped off a huge section of time spent in proximity to other people. No need to get involved in conversations, make enemies or friends, and generally be where other people are so that secondary and tertiary interactions can take place. Just click a couple boxes and wait. I am certain, personally, that this philosophy is also why dungeons started to get really facerolly in wrath.

>Making fun of freaks like everyone always has in online games makes you /pol/
Lol

>Classic Coke will be the biggest, most high-profile example of lardasses not actually wanting the thing they think they want.

>Asmon isn't particularly bad at the game.

user, did you ever watch any of his streams? I was curious and checked it out and the dude is getting carried hard, he does nothing the whole raid, just reading and talking with people in the chat while smacking 1 button to do DPS, which he is always at the bottom since he does fuck all. Most of the time he just sits back and does whatever while the rest of the group is doing the raid for him

You've got it backwards, Paladins literally could not beat a Mage while Shamans could purge and grounding totem their shit, ghost wolf to avoid polymorphing, and shock them from a decent range

>IGN
Those fuckers don't know what players want since 2006.

Should I roll on the streamer server just so I can play somewhere guaranteed to not die in 2-3 months?

IGN is literally a jew psy op company. They get paid to try to change gamer culture and society and try to appeal to younger kids and look cool while pushing commie jew politics. They don't actually play games.

If anything, streamer server will be the first to die, after raidlog pve servers.

>LFD addon EVERYONE will use
>everyone will be engineering
>everyone will use cookie cutter specs after 15 years of guides and mastering talents/gear setups
>AV 1.12
>No BGs by phase 2, low lvl BGs will be filled to the brim by twinks and 60 BGs will be filled with raid geared premades
L M A O just how I remember it

I mean, i would not count on that non. Lets say that you play on the same server where asmond is going, he will stop playing after 3 months (he claimed that classic will be dead in 3months) and leaves back to retail. What do you think that will happen? Everybody who joined the server because of him will leave aswell, leaving the server even more dead than a server without a streamer

Servers that are going to last longest probably are:
US Herod & Whitemane
EU Golemagg & Shazzrah

>In case you have cataracts
how the FUCK Did you know?!

Hahahaha, if you removed the third panel that kinda gave it away how much you are seething, then it would be pretty accruate.

>WoW turned him into a fat retard that can barely breath while speaking at blizzcon

Theres plenty of streamers who have no intent of going back to retail

unironically, Heart of the Wild is the best resto spec until past t1

20% int on bis heal cloth is huge

and then funnily you dont even go full resto, with t2 a balance resto hybrid is best

full resto doesnt really become viable until Nexx gear

>idiots thinking that this will have item level/gearscore/whatever else
Kill yourselves

While I see your point and do agree with you to an extent, there comes a point where sitting in the LFG channel/trade channel in a city just waiting to actually start doing gameplay is completely tiresome.
Its really novel and cool to be a catalyst for those "Secondary and teriary interactions", but there's better ways to get people to spend time with each other in major faction hubs or other areas without forcing people there just to sit in a chat channel for an hour.

I've always thought there was some wisodom in the rested/tired mechanic they used to have in early wow. That thing about how fighting too much caused your character to become tired and gain less xp, so you were encouraged to take breaks in inns and cities to become well rested before going out again

If they could find the sweet spot in that mechanic were people were happy to go back and rest, maybe because the net result was actually FASTER levelling or reputation gains or whatnot than just fighting through the rested status, I think it'd work wonders

Imagine a system where players would genuinely go to the inns and bars of cities to drink and eat and interact fluidly with other players because they need to rest and wanna shoot the shit to pass the time.

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Yes, /3 is/was local defense

Why would everyone leave a server just because a streamer left?? Why would you leave an already populated server to go to a dead one?

Unless its to chase another streamer in which case they're retarded anyway

Soulless.

Male UD for those super sexy animations or female for looking better in general?

>Shamans losing to mages
That doesn't make any sense because Earth Shock existed.

>mmmmhh yes look at all this shit I'm eating mmmmhh you mad at how much I'm enjoying shoveling this shit down bro?

I hope they add new races to classic later on, lads.

>shock a frost spell, get poly'd
>shock a poly, get frost nova'd

What is worse as warlock. Purge spamming Shamans or Cleansing Palas?

Don't think that thing came out until TBC. If it was in vanilla it was very late.

Why do boomers get so enraged by quality of life improvements? I will be using this for the convenience factor instead of spamming LFG like a retard.

>what is grounding

>shock a frost spell
>grounding totem the poly
>WF proc evaporates all their health

heh, nothin personnel mage

It's just a matter of time when somebody takes all the items in game and ranks them up with a score to evaluate the worthiness of your gear. Got hide of the wild? +5 good boy points.

>Get poly'd
>Ghost wolf
>Shock a frost spell
>Mage starts panicking and throws himself off the Arathi Lumber Mill cliff

>void elf
>Dungeon Difficulty set to...
>classic
you retarded m8?

raider.io will be a thing sweaty

Unironically yes

>BEs are still horde a million years later because ????
>have to keep thinking up reasons for them to be relevant
>the majority of the story revolves around the fact that they can't just kick forsaken out of the horde even though everyone hates them
>had to hire a fucking goblin to tell them they can put a gate on the back of their capital instead of just 1 giant front fate

I say they remove General, Trade and Local Defense. How is this for immersion, eh your motherfuckers?

Clowns is the horde /vg/ guild on Grobbulus RP-PVP

We're open to any and all who browse /vg/. We plan on weekly raiding, PvP, and world PvP. New to classic? Come and chill while you level up. Played in vanilla? Perfect, we need people with raiding experience. If you are a GDQ streamer or a FFXIV player, fuck off.

No trannies

discord.gg/ajxcb4e

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I hate actually having to say this but why are you faggots so fucking obsessed?

>it's exactly like we expected the classic wow audience is the worst part about classic wow
dead
on
arrival

Oh boy. You guys are gonna learn the hard way.

It was added later in TBC you zoomer, and everyone hated it.

why the fuck would you even use this?

method 1
>join global
>"LFG/M (instance) (roles/classes), /w me"
>leave global
>wait for replies
>invite

method 2
>/who c-(class) (lower level range)-(upper level range)
>invite people that are in the same zone as the instance
holy shit so hardcore!!!!!!!!!!

fireblast

Remember that Blizzard dev who said "you think you do, but you don't"? He was actually right

There were 2 back entrances to Orgrimmar in terms of Lore back in vanilla because there wasn't open war back then.
The entire point of vanilla was Hyjal had just happend a couple years ago where horde and alliance put their differences aside and worked together, and entered into a tenuous peace

The battle grounds opened up over the course of vanilla as small scale skirmishes between races, not open war.

>WSG was Night elves getting pissed Orcs were cutting down their trees
>Arathi was humans and dwarves clashing with the zombies over territory claims
>AV was Stormpike Dwarves and Frostwolves doing the same thing

So, what does that add-on even do?

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>servers are going live with phrasing and sharding
>server community won't even exist
>no mob spawn scaling means leveling will be next to impossible
>most servers will end up as ghost towns after the first few weeks
>have to pay to go move to ones that aren't dead

Lets you list a group that other people using the addon can see and ask to be invited to. Tidies up the process of LFM/LFG spamming.

>Three pre-release month-in-advance subscriptions for me, my wife, and my wife's son for the Activision-Blizzard owned, genre-redefining, layering and sharding-oriented on-rails progression based atmospheric slow-grind MMORPG with classes designed to strictly adhere to the "MMO Holy Trinity" as to not confuse the players with too many abilities, please. We have to reserve our names!
>Yes, I'd like to donate the change to Asmongold.

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Enhance is a meme spec, Elemental doesn't give a shit if they get hit by frost nova

saves you from having to /w people "hey wanna do (instance)?"
it's autistic coping

I feel that these barriers to entry, while arbitrary, are still important. I'm really drawn to make a analogy here, but I think we're both above that.

Suffice it to say that overcoming hurdles is what gives an end result its value. Finding a group is harder for some than others, but it's part of the process. It encourages you to find a guild to expedite the process. Walking around in T2 doesn't just mean you're good at the game, it means you can cooperate, be sociable, and work with others. That's extremely important, and worth whatever barrier to entry must facilitate that.

I'm not some idiot that doesn't believe in any type of streamlining, but I don't think this particular area is the quality of life change people think it is, or it appears to be on the surface. It's a real stopping point for people who can't put in that effort, and a badge for those who can.

Shamans were and still are a hard counter to mages, you fucking retard

>Cant provide any further argument so just goes "Whatever heh, I win."

just wait a month before jumping in. Most idiots will have filtered out by then.

U still need to go to the dungeon and summon, this is not a big deal.

open your eyes maybe

>there comes a point where sitting in the LFG channel/trade channel in a city just waiting to actually start doing gameplay is completely tiresome.
I totally agree, but you cannot provide a convenient way for people to form social connection, it's basic tribalism. People make those connections to avoid negatives, and in WoW's case, it's to avoid having to sit in /lfg for an hour looking for people, shit goes way faster if you have a tank or healer, etc.

I agree with your other idea though, maybe like 15min every 4 hours or something for +10% exp for the next 4 hours, that'd be kinda cool

>LF1M - Warrior - premade BGs need at least 72 ilvl score - must have raider.io addon

>n-no argument ;_;
There is literally no need for me to be a keyboard warrior. You'll just understand later when you get btfo in world PvP.

>/vg/ Guild
>No trannies

I hope you have a rigorous vetting process.

Wasn’t LFD in classic? I know it was in Burning Crusade.

It was just a UI tool to assist you with finding people interested in running a dungeon. It wasn’t a thing that automatically grouped you and teleported you to a dungeon

Where's the /chicken?

that's the point, the loud obvious trannies will filter themselves, if someone's a tranny, they just won't mention it, which is totally fine since it's a game and not a fetlife meetup

Well you see user, trannies are just mentally ill people desperate for attention so they always announce to everyone they're a tranny.

I think I love her

Gonna be great filtering all the subhumans from Yea Forums and /vg/
>HOW DAAAARE YOU NOT WANT TO PLAY WITH SHITTERS!!!11

Could just cut off the Armory for Vanilla. We don't need that shit.

Why are you here among people you dont want to associate with?

Not him but I only come to this site for laughs and entertainment. I'd never actually play anything competitive or group oriented with you psychos, im just here to watch the circus basically haha.

Can I bring my wife?
My wife's boyfriend won't be playing, sadly

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What a lot of retards I'm this thread forget is that raiding in classic requires a lot of people. You can't be as picky in classic because you needed 39 other people and you needed a proper mix of th classes. Some idiot might make a way to rank gear but the only people using it will be midline guilds that think they are high end. For most guilds, they are going to take everyone they have and then fill what they don't have with whom ever they can find. The only people they will block are the ones they personally blacklisted for be shitters.

If this is a shitpost about classic, why is there a void elf portrait in the corner?

Basically this.
It’s amazing to see XIV trannies, wannabe good players, carried to shit faggots, etc... screaming and larping about being good.
I do expect a r.ioclassic to exist just so I can laugh mock and deride r.iolets again.

You proved his point. Literally angry about this game lol

Yep, and at last I will be allowed into raid!
No more mocking me...
No more telling me my r.io and gs are too low they WILL have to invite me for the 40 people!

By the end you could buy the entire(normal mode version) of your tier set with badges, which could be slowly, but surely, acquired from doing your daily random heroics.

lmao this, literally has green logs, even if he was trying he would be shit

classic raiding is piss easy, has barely any mechanics and everyone autistic enough to go to 60 will know them

yeah we'll have SIM YOURSELF! culture like in BfA instead.

>Good luck pressing a single button with decursive

the state of Classicfags lmao

Everyone on current Yea Forums is a mentally ill attention-craving faggot. Adding a name component to it only makes the matter worse. Kek there were people sending nudes to each other in the Yea Forums Nostalrius guilds.

>ghost wolf to avoid polymorphing
Why do zoomers pretend they played vanilla

There is too much autism in this pic.

>Green logs
>400-700 lifetime r.io (Literally JUST getting the 15s in time Cheevo to laugh at shitters is worth 1.6-1.8k r.io)
>Carried on stream and probably account shared off stream for pvp (arena only, not rbg)
>All he does is MOGSMOUNTCHEEVOSPETS!!! And normal/HC with his viewers (depends on how hard they carry)

No.

Item level didn't mean shit in Vanilla. Itemization was all over the place and Blizz was literally throwing darts at a wall of numbers for stats until BWL

>t. T-deficients

If you're not playing on rp-pvp, you've only got yourself to blame.

Yes. And there are plenty of trannies who participate on Yea Forums except they aren't just sent from another website with an agenda. They're perfectly capable of conforming to the current right-wing racist irony culture of the website to stealthfully blend into guild chats.

>Until BWL
UNtil t5*

RP is a minigame even on RP realms, leave your stormwind guard outfit at the door when it comes to raid time.

ZT or Firemaw?

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All MMO players are utter casual trash.

Ghost wolf doesn’t avoid poly in vanilla

>Paladins literally could not beat a Mage while Shamans could purge and grounding totem their shit, ghost wolf to avoid polymorphing, and shock them from a decent range

Paladins in vanilla have Freedom with 80% uptime in addition to having higher movement speed than mages. Mages have no self healing and not enough damage to kill the paladin; you sheep and run away

>ghost wolf to avoid polymorphing
Great job outing yourself as somebody who never played shaman. First, ghost wolf doesn't offer protection from polymorphs like druid forms do. Second, even talented for a faster cast it still has a 1s cast time in vanilla.

Paladins could barely grab a mage, but a mage would OOM if he tried to kill a paladin.

Most of my pvp moments in STV as a paladin vs a mage was me using los /laugh and healing myself constantly and they either kept trying to chase me with no mana or just got bored.

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Hello Yea Forums. My name is Brian Hazzikostas, lead game designer. I'm here to clear some things up. We checked the reference client and noticed a few things we overlooked from the original 1.12
Turns out skeletons naturally despawned in this version
LFG code was written but accidently commented out
A primitive version of layering was actually working in the background! It reduced server load back in 04 and nobody noticed, that's how well it works and how little impact it has on immersion.
So currently Classic is more accurate than it ever has been. I hope this clears things up.
Keep on gaming, gamer boys.
Brian out.

>being this dumb
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Group finder is fine - you still have to get to the dungeon, summon your stragglers, communicate within dungeons to properly progress, and discuss loot distributions etc.

DBM is a necessity.

Gearscore will be useless. You can have an ilvl of 60+, but it doesn’t mean jack shit if your stats are balanced like ass. It’s also useless because it’s not going to consider resistances necessary to not get shat on in Ony, MC, BWL, AQ, and Naxx.

ZT brother

Jfc that top left pic
Has to be a troll

>Classic is actually just a subfolder in the retail wow installation
what the fuck was blizzard thinking

Nothing. They've been brain-dead for years.

>>Classic is actually just a subfolder in the retail wow installation

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>DBM is a necessity.
>people complain retail got too easy
>GAAAYS I NEED MY ADDON THAT TELLSM ME WHEN 5 SECONDS ARE OVER

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>he has retail installed
oh no no no

I don't but you can still see it, the folder is _classic_

>he doesn't know you don't need retail installed to play classic
Classic is only 4gb, it's amazing.

I don’t understand why Michelle Obama is there

I kinda wish there was a way to tank 5mans as a warlock.

playing private servers for a few years and now I have a horrid urge to play a tanking class that can drain health. I am not sure why they never went with the idea, since the idea of a magic caster with huge stamina tanking sounds super fun.

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Yea, it's a sub-game of the real WoW experience, nostalgiafag.

God I wish that were me.

>summon VW
>wait for it to build threat
>start attacking
>???

It’s slow as fuck thanks to threat gen, but it’s possible.

because they want to accomplish something in their life

Communityfags are retards

T. retard playing single player in an MMOrpg

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You're all fucking antisocial ugly and fat drug addicts. Mmo chads my ass.

This is actually brilliant

>REEEEEE
I bet you can't even deadlift lmao 3plate.

You guys sure are obsessed

Hence why you’re in a thread that has nothing to do with you, right?

During my time trying to experiment stupid builds, void walker has terrible threat gain and is a joke for it even with improved talents.

I could take its threat with wand + melee usage and it doesnt get easier at higher levels. Funny enough I did a better job as a shadow priest tank in SM:Cath as a joke run.

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Mind blast aint no joke

mind blast is a good threat build, and mindcontrol works like a taunt that can't be disrupted by auto attacks. With only a 3 second casting.

It was really fun, stupid, but fun. I kinda wish warlocks or spriest could do that shit a bit more often in WoW.

*goes to goldshire*

kek, they said they won't leave skeletons the way it was in vanilla because that way people can make racist symbols with them.

Can't wait to drop Infernals on all the ERPers

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>edgelord fedora tipper band
>horde
checks out

both classic and retail are subfolders of the world of warcraft folder

>Can't wait to drop Infernals on all the ERPers
pls xplain
is there like a consumable item that creates a pool of lava that hurts all players or something

>they said they won't leave skeletons the way it was in vanilla because that way people can make racist symbols with them.
Seriously?

Goldfarmers would also spell out their websites outside of capital cities in corpses so it's not just about the hate speech angle

kind of, it's called an Infernal

Not for me. Here there's a folder named World of Warcraft and a folder for World of Warcraft Classic, both in the Program Files folder.

i'm getting roped into playing this again and i hope everyone realizes this is just retail WoW with less content and gets bored instantly and stops playing

Yes, and also what this user said >Q: Will the Skeletons that appear when someone dies be the same as it was originally? Right now they disappear after you die again, they used to stay longer than that.
>A: While we understand that this was a flavorful part of Original WoW and the earlier expansions, individual players leaving multiple player corpses and skeletons throughout the game world can lead to behavior such as spelling out advertisements, hate speech, and other negative messages. As such, this will not be a part of WoW Classic.

Same, I want shorter queue times

>we can't possibly moderate the game

BROS WE GOT A NEWBAB HERE GET HIM

i just can't stand the notion of having to interact with other humans in a non-anonymous environment twenty years into the new millennium

I played LoTRO instead, the superior game

pls stop bullying horde

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LFD and LFG... not very classic.

literal niggers

False, but the Captain class in that is god tier.

>he thinks 15 bux is enough to keep out poors today
lmao

it's not true

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You don't even have proper architecture lol
just stick and rocks binded together with rope

>if you're not joining my Discord and larping with my tranny friends you're not playing the game properly

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kill yourself zoomer

>all this seething retail cope
Remember boys we are going home and they can’t stop us, screencap this so we can repost it when the amount of people playing retail is lower than classic.

close but Warleader is better

>phrasing
dumb phoneposter

Vanilla sucks dick because 2/3rds of the specs are unusable and unviable.
Wake me up when the following specs can actually be viably played:
Ret
Prot (paladin)
Enhance
Ele
Feral
Balance
Shadow
Sub
Assassination
Survival
Marksmanship
Arcane

Oh wait I almost forgot, it'll never happen because pathetic nostalgia-goggle wearing M-MUH PURE BLIZZLIKE fuckwits would shit out an insane REEEEEE if anyone dared to make the game actually better.

>Marksmanship
are you perhaps retarded?

>check out the official forums and try to reconnect with the "community"
>mfw

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q-quick rundown?

Beastmaster was the only viable Hunter spec in vanilla. No, memelording NE hunter shadowmeld into aimed shot crits doesn't count.

I just subbed today in preparation for monday. decided to sub a few days before launch because I wanted to check retail and see how it is but God, how awful everything is. the zones are pretty, I guess.

What? I remember Marksmanship being good though.

God i wish that was me

Feral is mediocre dps and an alright tank, definitely viable.
Shadowweaving is a fantastic damage buff for warlocks so one shadow is great for raids.
Survival is the best hunter dps spec if someone else is bring TSA, which is why Marks is viable.
All mages except for 1 are deep arcane for MC and BWL
All the other specs are viable for PvP

>Beastmaster was the only viable Hunter spec in vanilla. No, memelording NE hunter shadowmeld into aimed shot crits doesn't count.

user, hunters didn't get serpent's swiftness added to make BM the best spec until 2.0. Vanilla it's still MM.

Then you are remembering wrong. Objectively speaking, the only way to do even half-way decent DPS on Hunter was beastmaster with Broken Tooth tamed as a pet.
Even then it was piss poor DPS compared to a mage or warlock, and you were literally only brought along for tranq shot and because no one else wanted mail gear.
Everyone likes to say that hybrids were fucked in vanilla (and they were) but no one ever seems to remember that hunter was nearly as useless.

>No Draenei
Yep, that's a hard hard pass from me.

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>paying 100 dollars a month for quartz

Can't believe the lot of you are hype for this two decade old trash, back in the day I raised my handful of characters to 60, and I recall there was little remarkable about that content until burning crusade, expect everyone desperately trying to fit into a UBRS run every single day, a quarter of the server hard stuck from doing molten core due to steep social requirement. AV, UBRS, Stratholme is like the only end content that awaits most of you.
>people will give blizzard money for this rehash, its not even 'remastered'.

Asmongold explains how he handles this in detail.
When someone donates to him to tell him that he missed the first donation, he starts reading it and intentionally gets distracted so they donate a third time to remind him yet again.

Feral is worthless next to a warrior tank. The only thing they have going for them is threat generation which doesn't help for actually surviving shit.
The "one shadow/ret/ele/whatever" per raid argument is retarded and only fuckboys pull it out. When I say play viably I mean play fucking viably, not give a buff to artificially inflate someone elses damage.
See above for TSA
You're just wrong for mage
A spec being viable in one section of the game but no other is a failure of design and not acceptable.
Also
>prot paladin viable for pvp

>missing a retarded ERPer with his futa fetish
Oh no.

>Something being better means alternatives arent viable at all

marks was the only good spec zoomie

>AV, UBRS, Stratholme is like the only end content that awaits most of you.
sounds pretty good to me bro

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Most people back in the day were stuck indeed doing Scholo/Strat/UBRS indeed.

This time around most people will do at least MC and BWL.

Will be less prestigious to be in raiding gear sadly. That's what made it great back then imo.

No, its female healslut character is just orbited by the faggot GM and ends up getting loot funneled to it after they ERP privately.

I know this is bait and I assume you're going to shoot me down with something like "they're still not as good as pure DPS classes so their not viable haha I win" but whatever.
>Ret
Spell Power ret is decent enough, no problems in dungeons or raids assuming you take on a supportive role while auto attacking.
>Prot (paladin)
Admittedly not good for raids, poor mana efficiency and no taunt stop them from even offtanking. Solid for dungeons though, especially UDStrath and Scholo.
>Enhance
Mid tier damage output but great support along with it.
>Ele
Mana issues like every class that isn't Warlock, only a problem in raids though.
>Feral
Straight up worse rogues but don't forget they can also tank and bring a bit of support.
>Balance
This one I concede. Blizzard really had no clue what they were doing and Balance is garbage as a result.
>Shadow
Unironically the most viable hybrid DPS. Great in dungeons. Fucked in the ass in raids due to almost every spell taking a debuff slot.
>Sub
SF/Daggers bro
>Assassination
Hemo/Swords bro
>Survival
Fast weapon + Raptor Strike spam.
>Marksmanship
Literally the raiding spec?
>Arcane
Also literally the raiding spec. Frost mages go 31 into it.

Everything can work except Boomkin you just have to understand the value of each class rather than only looking at TANK/HEAL/DPS meta numbers.

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>Pick Warlock
>Be the best PvPer while being a top 5 class in raids
>Have the richest lore associated with you of any class
>All 3 specs are more than viable and play VERY different from each other for maximum variety and fun, no other class has this luxary off the top of my head.
>Can summon Succubus to have sex with.
>Get your mounts for free and via quests, but not only that, the Felsteeds unironically are the most aesthetic mounts in WoW. Period.
>Best looking tier sets from both an aesthetic and usability point of view.
>Has both a comfortable leveling experience as well as a fast one thanks to being a pet class that can replenish its own health and mana easily

Imagine picking any other class. WoW classic is a solved game. Orc Warlock is the absolute best class in the game for PvP and PvE.

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Yeah, even that with some battlegrounds and an occasionnal raid sound great.

I hope you guys are ready in a handful of years for Cata Classic and then Classic 2

>Orc
>on a horse
LOOK AT THIS DUDE

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What EU server(s) should I avoid? Any popular streamers gonna shit any up?

>>nobody is going to use gearscore

And that's a fucking good thing.

Avoid Gehennas, otherwise it's mostly fair game.

Feral tanks have significantly more HP and armor and dodge than warrior tanks. They can't deal with fear by themselves, but they work just fine for all other bosses.
There is nothing wrong with support classes in MMOs. Just because they don't parse as high as everyone else doesn't mean they aren't viable, zoomer.
Go look at the Frost tree and tell me what in deep Frost is going to increase Mage dps except for one mage bringing WC. There aren't any. Deep Arcane does have damage talents, so most mages go Arcane until they are Fire in AQ and Naxx.
30/0/21 shaman healing is fine, although not as good as deep resto healing.
>A spec being viable in one section of the game but no other is a failure of design and not acceptable.
So are prot warriors a failure of design? This argument is retarded.
>prot paladin viable for pvp
Reckoning

Lets be honest, they’ll still be here, they’ll just all be night elves instead

I'm afraid much more people will pick up warlock and make it to 60. Im scared it will be a shit fest to get a spot in raid.

>be priest
>faggot edgy warlock spams life tap or hellfire
>demands I waste mana healing them
>mfw I just watch them die

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Since you already know what I'm going to do, let's go down the list shall we?
>Ret
Spell damage build is -okay- and can pull viable DPS before Naxx, but the problem is that you need fucking Ironfoe and AV exalted offhand to do it, not to mention picture perfect gear and every buff in the game. Meanwhile a shitter rogue with truestrike shoulders can hit sinister strike the entire fight and do similar DPS. Which is retarded.
>Prot Paladin
Lack of taunt makes paladin worthless as a tank. Period. Doesn't matter where; any competent DPS can and will pull off you if they don't throttle their DPS and you have no taunt to cover for that
>Enhance
Has zero DPS, stop lying. It's literally just a windfury totem for rogues (like shadow for warlocks)
>Ele
Has no damage compared to other ranged, and has mana problems.
>Feral
Feral can't tank. They have no mitigation.
>Shadow
Does no damage, has mana problems, literally only brought for buff to warlocks. Also fuck debuff slots.
>Sub
Does no damage compared to combat
>Assassination
Does no damage compared to combat, hemo is a meme that never worked.
>Survival
LOL
>Marksmanship
Beastmaster is better in every way
>Arcane
Shitting talent points into it solely for utility shit when you don't use arcane spells is a failure of game design.

As for looking at the 'value of each class rather than meta numbers', that makes no difference because even if I do that, the worthless zoomer metaslaves that make up vanilla won't.

is warrior really that hard to level

>CLASSIC IS FINE AS IT IS LOL THE GAME IS PERFECT
>NOW LET ME JUST DOWNLOAD THIS DOZEN ADDONS THAT REPLICATE THE QOL FUNCTIONS OF RETAIL WOW

Classicunts, please, for the sake of your parents, kill yourselves.

Prot warriors are indeed a failure of design.
Also reckoning means nothing when no one is dumb enough to hit you.

>Warlock pops his void bubble
>Dispel it.

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you just have to go slow until you get a big weapon.

This is some terminal autism

Fantastic taste. Orc Warlock truly is the best combo.

Dumb systems to guage gear and "tidy" the pub players shouldn't be a thing.
If you want a group go get some friends, if you need a random person you grab a random person.
Bullying random nobodies because you're incapable of forming relationships with other human beings shouldnt be condoned.

>one of the 5 other healsluts will heal the chadlock
>GM will call you out for your behaviour/underperformance
>humiliated in front of everybody and force to pass on the bis trinket that just dropped
>it goes to the chadlock

But everyone is talking shit about the addons you fucking retard
Literally only retail cucks are defending that shit

How is protection paladin lacking taunt autism?

No, it's just someone wanting specs to actually be fucking playable.

he said as he downloaded his LFG addons and donated to Asmongold

Felsteeds will be a while off user, pretty sure they came with the DM update.

>Beastmaster is better in every way
BM is only good for leveling, you fucking retard.

Asmongoloid is a retard but he's also against the addons

These people don't realize that Classic servers has at least twice the population of Vanilla servers.

It will never take more than 5 minutes to find a group.

Factually wrong

Most of them are, you're just too fucking dumb to see it. You have people in the thread telling you how shit works and you just autistically screech about how mages don't go deep arcane despite every mage knowing that what you do for MC and BWL. Blatantly ignoring reality staring you in the face is peak autism.

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>a bunch of people who never played Vanilla re decrying it
>real Vanilla players remember using CallToArms and RDX once raiding
Retail tourists don't even know what they want.

Didnt the meeting stones kind of work like that (albeit very ineffective at lt )

Factually correct. Deal with it.

The first two panels are right though

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Blizzard already stated repeatedly they will kill addons like this

I'm your doctor.

Barely anyone used those addons you massive faggot

The only ones ignoring reality are the nostalgia-goggle faggots like you who refuse to see vanilla for what it really is.

Vanilla is garbage as an actual game. The only thing it had going for it was that it had a decent community. That won't happen this time around, and there is no good gameplay to disguise it either.

I was in some lower population shithole and like 50% of the server used that shit

>excited for Classic WoW because no LFG, forcing people to actually socialize with eachother
>neets make an addon anyways

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Meeting stones were so you didn't have to suck off lockdaddy for a summon.

Yeah man those 10 years of people playing private servers and enjoying it must have all been lying.

They didn’t summon anyone in vanilla

>twice the population
Try ten times the population user. Each shard is the size of an original vanilla server.

No that was in BC. I thought in the early games the meeting stone showed you the general level requirement and had some weird group autojoin thing (no actual way to narrow shit down, etc) had no idea how it actually worked but nobody used it for that function. Then it was turned into a summoning stone by BC

>mfw all of my addons mimic retail
Suck my fucking dick. So what if I want to see where all of the quests are? Go fuck your Daddy up the ass BITCH!

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>raid boss:
>hunter pet: just fucking dies

lmao have fun casting revive pet 20 times per encounter

>he fails to see the reason people develop addons and just cries "neet! neet!"
>he thinks spamming LFG is socialization
lol

The good players did, who cares what the idiots do. There were literally guilds who thought add-ons and macros were cheating.

>Could just cut off the Armory for Vanilla. We don't need that shit.

There's no armory for classic as a matter of fact.

Just don't invite people using the addon

Huh. You're right. I remember playing vanilla wow as a warlock and I swore they could summon. But maybe I am just remembering wrong since I only played a warlock so I was the one summoning. Or that I didn't know I was playing during early BC.

Having to talk to someone to join a group is more effort than the entire FF14 & Live WoW community.

>Beastmaster is better in every way

You are a 100% retard that has no clue of what he's talking about.

>pve tryhard smooth brains
>good players
LMAO

I can see where you'd think that this, but let me explain the flaw in your thinking.

Consider the following:
Real vanillas community was halfway decent. No one argues with that.
Nu-WoWs community is absolutely disgusting garbage. No one argues with that.

Now realize that the people who played on private servers were almost entirely drawn from the first crowd; the nostalgiafags who went through the effort of downloading a 1.12 client and editing some files to connect to a private server. It makes sense that private servers had community since the playerbase was drawn almost entirely of that first group.

But with nu-blizzard marketing a 10 year old game to their existing playerbase, you are going to see nu-vanilla filled to the brim with zoomers and newfags who are used to retail, AND bring all the bad traits of the modern day MMO player with them.

Classic will not have a good community. Period.

Maybe if the tanks a pussy. Tank makes a heal-slut friend and boom anytime they can dungeon because its easy as pie to find three dps.

>Everyone against it gets an addon that spams the LFG addon with rubbish groups rendering it unusable.

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And do you think this add-on is suddenly going to break how the game functions to automatically toss you into a group?

>i want classic, but like retail

That's a failure of you as a player to position your pet correctly.
Buttons exist to let you call your pet back to you for a reason. You're the reason that pets got a 95% reduction in AOE damage taken in retail.

Maybe if the boomer old-guard don't whip them into line. But theres so much spoonfeeding from wowhead it might not be effective.

>I want to spend time with strangers online

>oh fuck oh fuck he's right and im retarded
>HEH IM A PVPCHAD OF COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT PVE
>haha, that sure showed him, bet he thinks he's dumb

you...you know that you have to talk to people to do the end-game content in WoW, no?
Sounds like you get all your info from greentexts and memes on Yea Forums

zoom zoom

please tell me they will ban you if you use it.
Please...

Pserver communities were pretty awful and filled with russians spamming shit. The zoomers from retail are just going to end up quitting before 60. I have my guild already set up with people from pservers so I can avoid all those retards anyway.

I think they said they were considering it, but realistically it would be a very stupid business move on their part.

anyone who uses the word zoomer should be hanged

>Kungen coming back
Oh god I can't wait to see this faggot finally be put in his place by retailfugees as the mediocre trash he is.

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He’s right about mages though you dumb nigger? Literally one support bitch goes deep for Winter and the rest get arcane power

If this is actually a thing then hook a niggy up. Otherwise I'm just filtering the default messages.

>retailtrannies trying this hard

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>he thinks he proved anything with his "dude trust me" arguments
>tops it off with a retarded straw man to show the full extent of his intelligence
Can't wait to dab on retards like you with dungeon blues

They said they'll probably break its functionality.
As they should. Zoomers need to understand that dealing with other people is part of the experience of an MMO. You shouldn't be able to get by without interacting with others.

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>projecting this hard
Pay for my next expansion, classicfag
lol

So happy that fkin trash swede stopped streaming/gaming, total fucking faggot.

nice gun skill scrub

As the launch comes closer these threads become funnier it's like some ex-gf begging you not to see your hot current gf and is trying to tell you all the bad things about her but she's got a fat brapper and milkers and you just laugh and ignore her

*click*

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original WoW had a shitty lfg tool that nobody used, kinda worked just like that one, and also like the additional one they currently have in retail for harder quests and mythic shit
get your outrages straight, what you should be concerned about is that insta-teleport lfg they added towards the end of wotlk I think? but in my opinion that didn't kill wow either, people were already behaving like bots even before they added that faggotry

Good question

very very upset post. go donate to your favorite streamer, maybe he'll notice it and say your name.

It's not but there's precedent for people just fucking around with other people's addons.
Back in MoP you could modify your own DBM to shut down everyone else's for example.
Also malicious WeakAuras that made you mail all your gold to someone when you were in range of a mailbox, addon devs putting backdoors so they could run any commands if they whispered you and shit like that. I'd expect it to happen if Blizzard doesn't shut it down.

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>fat brapper
What the fuck? That sounds gross as fuck. Like having a woman push her anus against the head of your dick and then fart. So gross lmao

>not everyone using it

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Do I also need deadly boss mods?

>implying 100% of the money classic makes won’t go into Bobby Kotick’s fat asshole to fund call of duty and skylanders

>DUDE STREAMERS
You're not even making any sense you retarded little shit

I don't. It has does not have any of the functionality of LFD. Its pretty much a custom UI for chat channels.

Keep telling yourself that, classicboy

I dont understand how it is a big deal then, especially since you know there will probably be server discord groups

Its just retail trannies coping.

he said as he gave money to a company he hates to develop a game he hates