This map is kind of shit for about half the factions in the Bannerlord
>Battania, the smallest faction, is surrounded by other factions who either hard or soft counter its archer/light infantry units >Losing just two castles (Ormanfard and Usanc) would completely cut off Vlandia from direct contact with two other nations, meaning it will have half the number of direct enemies any other nation has >Sturgian heavy infantry/shield walls hard counter archers and crossbows, giving Sturgia a massive advantage against 3 of the four nations it borders >The lack of a crossing between Diathma and Argoron mean Northern Empire will have to cross enemy territory to reach a third of its provinces
>northern empire >western empire >southern empire epic name Turkeks
Leo Perez
why is it always some big blob? why not add some shapes or some shit to it like continental europe?
Daniel Butler
>Battania, the smallest faction, is surrounded by other factions who either hard or soft counter its archer/light infantry units im pretty sure thats the point i dont have the source now but i remember them say that battania is the weakest faction, remnatnts of a country that got destroyed theyre basically forest bandits loosely united under the same culture, theyre supposed to be the punching bag of the region
Liam Watson
they already had part of the map from the earlier game and i dont thin they wanted to change the universe/location or be incosisten, but i agrre some isnalns or peninsuals would be nice
Hudson Cox
its the same country just in a civil war or something so it woould make no sens for them to ba called diffrent
Tyler Collins
There's a dot in the river between Diathma and Argoron, maybe it's a ford.
Sebastian Hughes
Nice job Diocletian you fucking hack, come up with a better name next time
>all of the parts have their own culture and different in every way from every other part >same country
Bentley Sanders
I'm betting rivers can be forded in general. There are too many choke points for it not to be the case. Has anyone said anything about there being boats of any kind? A lot of Warband mods have them, and so does Viking Invasion. Naval raids may be a real threat.
Nolan Cook
GOD GIVE ME THIS FUCKING GAME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Noah Brooks
yeah the sand faction looks a bit like egypt with the big river in the south, except in drains in to a lake instead of sea
David Bennett
It's almost like it's based on the later Roman Empire where that exact thing happened.
Jaxson Edwards
Russia comes to mind
Ayden Gonzalez
how are they diffrent? it was the same state of courese they would have teh same name, the eastern and western roman empires also had diffrent cultures but they sill kept the name even after many centuries
Andrew Hill
>cheap facsimile of medieval Europe >the prequel to it is a cheap facsimile of the end of the Roman empire.
Do the three parts of the Empire have differences in-game? Units unique to each faction, or something? Or are they the same faction, just at war to keep the center of the map constantly fluctuating?
Ryder Sullivan
Those borders look retarded. Instead of having natural borders like mountains and rivers divide the countries, they seem arbitrarily set. Makes no sense.
Joshua Cooper
I think they're aiming for even later than the Crisis or Diocletian, more towards the 5th century.
Liam Cox
STOP SPLITTING MY EMPIRE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Which faction will have the more traditional English/French Plated Kniggits?
Christopher Diaz
they lost all their coastal holdings
Jonathan Martin
>Plated none > traditional English/French Vlandia I guess, I'm not sure tho
Charles Cox
probably the one thats colored red
Hudson Thomas
its modelled on the late Roman/early medieval era/dark ages
Caleb Bailey
>Vlandia theyre supposed to be nromans so sort of both and neither nobody will have plated knights and typical feudal troops because the game is set in early medieval period more or less
Julian Jenkins
the map is anatolia
Daniel Flores
mountains are not depicted in this image. they're everywhere if you check a gameplay video.
Henry Baker
Vlandia or the Empire, which will have a focus on cataphracts.
Hunter Bennett
Who is gonna have heavy full mail+pot helmet kind of cav? That would be most modern cav at the game period I think. Although I don't know if that's more English, French, German or other.
should've paid more attention to devs blog and history classes I guess %)
Jayden Edwards
>>Sturgian heavy infantry/shield walls hard counter archers and crossbows, no. archers are always OP. just set them up on 2 opposite hills and watch the infantry melt.
Kevin Turner
My bad, didn't realise it was a much earlier setting. Roman legion types and cataphracts is good enough!
Samuel King
>roman empire had exactly same culture in brittania and asia cool story bro
The fords are a bit hard to see, but they're there. You may be able to see them better now that I've circled them Look closely at the river between Diathma and Argoron, there's no fords
the only faction focusing on heavy cav is the empire, they have something akin to the byzantine cataphtracts, completely armored even the horses charging with lances and maces in to the enemy
Henry Hughes
Jeremus, give me back my legions!
Robert Hall
Vlandia has heavy cav as well They have fifth tier knights, which are the Charlemagne era chainmail-and-kite-shield kind, not plate armor knights
Isaac Hernandez
There was that early Bizantine kind of lance, it was 2h and looks dank af. I wonder if it'll be avalible to get.
Nolan Edwards
Vlandia gets more towns than anyone else but are apparently plagued by infighting between the clans. Don't know how that works though
depends on the infantry but yeah, i thought they would be more norman inspired cav which wasnt that heavy, but got their charging pwer from couched lances but looking at the units they seem to be quite heavier
>small >surrounded by enemies >mostly light infantry and archers, i.e the weakest units >Sturgia shield wall hard counters archers >two different heavy cav faction, Western and Northern Empire hard counter light infantry >Even Vlandia has medium cav plus crossbows with pavise shields, which counter both archers and light infantry Enjoy being the village bicycle
Austin Brown
I'm gonna play as Vlandia, love using crossbows
Leo Nguyen
V L A N D I A L A N D I A
Gabriel Lopez
>archers >weakest units user, are you okay? >>Sturgia shield wall hard counters archers user, shields are no longer arrow magnets. archers are going to be even more OP than in warband.
Alexander Sanders
Mah Dhirim nigga.
Sebastian Martinez
Don't forget Vlandia also has pikemen which counters cav hard
Hudson Phillips
>northern empire surrounded by six enemies just partition my shit up
Elijah Bell
I like being the underdog + I'll play full Vercingétorix. Gonna show this filty empire what it costs to invade our ancestral lands. It will be glorious bloody guerillas in the middle of the forest.
Evan Rivera
That's a lot of cav for an infantry faction.
Brandon Perry
what the fuck if they have that much cavalry now, where did all the nord cavalry go? did all the nordic horses die of a plague just before the start of warband?
Aiden Richardson
>Start new games, thinking that I'll do something different each time >Always end up conquering Dhirim for myself and starting a city-state kingdom in the middle of Calradia, and have a 40k-tier endless war with every single faction as they all constantly declare war on me to reconquer it because they all owned it at some point before
>khuzan guard/targan Looks like horsefuckers got some actual shield bearing troops. Mayby they won't be so lame at siedges anymore.
Christopher Rodriguez
Seeing as siege aren't an eternal meatgrinder on a single ladder anymore, a lot of factions now stand a chance in it.
Jackson Gray
theyre nordic influnced slavs not nords
Caleb Gomez
Vlandia is Anglo/Frankish, and they do have a "Knight" line of troops in their tree, but the game is supposed to be dark ages inspired rather than medieval. Full plated medieval type knights like you're presumably imagining might not be present, or might not be overly common if they are.
Ryder Lee
I don't fucking care. Barely any medieval games don't do a pre-1066AD setting and barely any other games have the split Roman Empire and allows me to roleplay restoring the Roman Empire.
Its so you can make pure uniformed armies rather than vikings fighting next to arabs.
Brandon Phillips
That's because they're the factions that thrived. If you didn't have good troops you'd get eliminated.
Ian Murphy
Sounds like Western Europe during the Dark Ages desu
Bentley Richardson
>Not everyone has a perfect situation Shocker. I can't fucking believe it.
Jordan Williams
oh right. i remember armagan commenting on factions sizes. he said that vlandia starts with huge swaths of land but the lords are quarrelsome and the kingdom isn't united so they won't hold their lands as they should (i.e. lords don't answer marshal summons) so they might make battania united to balance their size.
Nolan Butler
>i.e. lords don't answer marshal summons That's easy to fix
I can't wait to reunify the empire with a party of these.
Logan Ramirez
Hopefully heavy cavalry won't be so disgustingly overpowered this time
Levi Miller
>empire in ruins >split and a shadow of its former self >reconquers most of Europe >starts reforming the empire to ensure continuity >bout to retake North Africa >some shitcunt gets annoyed he doesn’t have as much power >betrays leader >contributes to imperial collapse Every time
Luke Diaz
these MOBA refugees are the fucking worst >baaah everything needs to be balanced, everyone needs to have same starting numbers, baaah META and OP and BROKEN
Mason Ortiz
I noticed there is no varangian guard, which is disappointing.
i dont think it was that overpowered, a bit to strong yeah but if they got bogged down in a tight infantry formation they would get killed rather fast, their upkeep was high as fuck and they were really hard to get, leveling the up took forever and the chance that your close to max soldier would die in battle were relativly high, and you would have to start over again, i dont think that was unresonable because historcly heavy cav was incredibly strong just very expensive and sparce so you couldnt just get a fuckton of it
Nathan Kelly
Shut the fuck up peasant
Henry Russell
I hope we will be able to impregnate Southern Empire's Empress and or her daughter.
Gabriel Smith
it's my pure guess, but mayby it'll be OP af, but balanced with wages or/and training time. I mean h. cav was pretty opaf back at X century
Grayson Lewis
Play on 1:1 damage
They get eaten alive by crossbows
Alexander Nelson
there is as a seperate subfaction they talk about it a dev blog, so getting their troops is prbably a bit more complicated taht just recruting peasents shich makes sense
Adrian Young
I always liked counters, heavy infantry counters light infantry, heavy cavalry counters heavy infantry, ranged counters heavy cavalry, light cavalry counters ranged, light infantry counters light cavalry. oviously with some other units that spice things up in there sometimes.
Agincourt has cavalry advance first in bad weather condition, their only and fatal mistake.
Sebastian Lee
Mine too, I mean, I swapped to red after all red factions (shitloads of them) were gone. Otherwise I'd lost track about what's mine and what's English, Dannish etc.
David Bell
There is a sub faction, I think they work for the Empire ruled by senators
Joseph Gutierrez
I'm gonna form a band of hedge knights and rob the robbers.
Ayden Thompson
Name char "Rob the Robber"
Josiah Clark
Which one is that again? I know Southern Empire is ruled by widow Empress and her daughter I hope we will be able to marry them.
Angel Phillips
>Attack in bad weather. >Across shit land. >Ignore the enemy army and loot the baggage train >Then attack the enemy army >Fall into a riverbank >Get your head smashed open like a melon by Dave swinging a blacksmiths hammer.
Jackson Lee
>if its not easy, its no fun This logic has always perplexed me, do you always pick easy just so you can win and tell others you have won? Try playing something hard and actually winning.
Dylan Lee
it should clearly be Rob the Robber Robber (rob that robs the robbers)
Juan Rogers
Yeah, the first one is already a fatal mistake.
And it's not like the english army were literally all peasants.
It's funny they got their ass whipped after that though with the french resurgence via Jeanne D'arc.
Ryan Miller
>It's funny they got their ass whipped after that though with the french resurgence via Jeanne D'arc. How did that end?
Evan Martin
norhern part is ruled by the senate, west is rogue general
Evan Nelson
did they recently update the map? I could have sworn it looked identical to warband map before
James Howard
Western Empire kind seems like it's on easy street, since it can probably shit stomp it's neighbors, Battania and Vlandia seem kinda weak. Where as the Northern and Southern ones have to deal with factions who have a lot of mobile cavalry
Dylan Stewart
English crown lost most of their holdings in France? Thanks.
Aaron Parker
Empire has horse archers too, I think.
Cameron Cox
right,that rly rolls off the tongue
Noah Long
>Vlandia seem kinda weak Why? They have good troops at least
Bentley Thomas
French run the english to the river and unite France (Brittany no longer belongs to the English).
Christian White
Also had no ranged units of their own, the entire fucking crossbow section of hte army didnt make it to the battle, so you had one side advancing under ranged attack while the other was simply able to fire without being harassed at all, thats why the cavalry was constantly put forward, they had no other choice and were arrogant as fuck thinking that knights were all it took to win a fight, some old lords even strapped themselves to their horses so they could take part in the glorious charge only to be strapped to a large moving target. Chivalric code was taken very seriously back then, and everyone that was a knight was trying to prove their worth, Agincourt is when Chivalry died, people questioned honor in battle and even lords were made to rethink their approach to fights, instead of war being a game, they now had to consider they could actually die
Vlandia has best cav, decent infantry (some with two handed sword) and crossbow.
They are gonna decimate the puny imperial archers and their weak horses.
Ayden Adams
Western is ruled by a mighty general. Northern should be senators. Now that I'm searching for the Varangian Guard faction I can't find it but maybe it's in the Empire dev blog. There's also the Skolderbroda which is a minor faction based on the Jomvikings
All the french have to do is advancing infantries first.
That's literally all it takes, the english were getting their ass whipped by the french recently and the french grow arrogant.
Nathan Ramirez
>best cav Imperial cav is better armored and Vlandia lacks horse archers
Nolan Bell
And no, chivalry didn't die after Agincourt, what horseshit.
You realize the french knights still fight with Jeanne D'arc after the death of Henry V right? They didn't suddenly just throw up and become farmers because they lost Agincourt.
Tyler White
I wonder about the grassland coastline south of Qasira, why they don't have it. Would have been neat if we could have had an India or Africa south of the Sarranids/Aserai.
I'm not too crazy about this roster. Khuzaits get elite infantry and cavalry from T2. Aserai get cavalry at T4, they have no elite infantry unit. But I recall hearing they have minor factions so maybe their bedouin offer something different. I might end up starting Aserai and going Southern Empire instead.
Daniel Gray
>Imperial Widow A Tempting prospect, but having to deal almost exclusively with the "Horse factions" outside of fighting other Imperials seems like a nightmare.
Depending on how much better the AI is better at just harassing people, I might actually stick with the Khanate.
Josiah Martinez
Vlandia has best CHARGERS which is all that matters for cavalries, horse archer is easily countered by cav and crossbow, it's a meme.
And no, they really ain't that worse in armor compared to the imperial cataphract.
Chase Gomez
>want to play a knight >charge in alongside my cavalry >no wb collision physics do end up stuck in a line of confused horses >rando spearman runs up and hits me for half of my HP And this is why I always play cavalry archer
Kevin Rivera
I fapped to that doujin
Michael Morales
spoonfeed me
Jace Martin
sauce?
Cooper Thompson
Bannerlord
Jayden Turner
You have her own horse archers as empire, plus I bet Khanate will be weak in sieges again.
Liam Sullivan
You might be right. I'm still thinking in Warband terms really. Factions with horse archers should be better than ever
Yeah, and that'll be useful but I kinda doubt they're gonna match up against the Khanate's own Horsemen
Carson Nguyen
Whats the deal with sub factions within factions? I noticed them in the wiki but have no idea their purpose in the actual game
Christian Parker
Expand the unit roster without making the overworld map a clusterfuck.
Elijah Young
alternate renown system that lets you unlock sub-faction specific units for example, the imperial !notCossacks have horse archers
Kayden Scott
aparently the lords arent going to work together so theyre just going to do whatever they want instead of lsitening to the marshal
Jackson Sanders
based
Noah Evans
based
Blake Murphy
post the source for the khanate image
Robert Rivera
Don't remember the name but it's based on otoyomegatari
Tyler Walker
Meh, I like knightly faction, if I have my own faction I would graduate to the same style.
Guerilla bow niggers are terrible in conventional/linear warfare.
Landon Ortiz
So is the way recruiting works still the same? You take over a different Culture of settlement you can only recruit that culture's units from that settlement? I always wished you could always influence the dominant culture in your own settlements, so you could get your own native troops.
John Sullivan
Yeah I heard but I still think Vlandia will do well, especially in sieges because of crossbows. Crossbows just wrecks everything
What we need is unit designer. So that you can outfit and equip your own soldiers out of your own pocket with certain weapons and armor.
Robert Roberts
March is still so far away bros. So far away
Ethan Garcia
Serious historical mistake to give Vlandia crossbow.
Crossbow was only big in the 1100s Crusader era while this game is about early/Dark Age medieval.
Now there's nothing that can stop the Vlandia.
Eli Lewis
theyll probably do well because they have a decent position on the map protected by the sea and such and great roster but it really depends on how they handle infighting mechanic
Nicholas Cox
they adressed it in the dev blog, also they time period is around 11th century so itds not so far off, but they put it in becasue theywanted to give some ranged variety
I didnt say that, chivalric code was the idea that you will live to fight another day if you were honorable and noble, if you were a knight you were more valuable alive to even the enemy, in Agincourt so many lords died that it made other lords question the concept of being taken alive, as was common practice, I didnt say they put down their weapons and toiled the fields, it was that it made lords consider that they cant just ride in and be ok because the enemy will WANT to capture them for ransom rather than kill them, that in some instances they will just be straight up killed before even reaching the fight via hails of arrows. Chivalry didnt just cut and die then, it was the point where it took a nosedive and lords questioned it rather than blindly adhering to it. EVERYONE that was a lord had to prove how chivalrous they were, its why you had boys going to combat in full armour, you werent a knight unless you could prove it, it wasnt something just given.
The fighting was in a valley where it was muddy and the land was slippy, the advancing infantry moved forward and couldnt keep formation for shit and whenever they tried to back up they were walking up hill through wet mud, the cavalry didnt have this problem, the cavalry also thought it would be an easy charge and were fucked by hails of arrows despite repeated failed attacks.
>the french were slipping and falling of their horses upon reaching the English, or being pulled off their mounts with such ease to the point where the english were actually having trouble securing the prisoners, there were so many french prisoners that if the french resisted they would have a serious problem behind the front lines, but they never did, they sought ransom kek
Jose Cooper
THIS
Sebastian Kelly
This would be perfect. I wish they'd steal Prophesy of Pendor's Custom Knighthood Order shit.
yeah the said that its sort of a mix of periods, but it feels mostly right in my opinion maybe except the vlandians who feel a bit to late, and the batanians are a sort of what if the celts didnt get curbstomped and survived to11th century
Jaxon Harris
It's really a myth because Agincourt was not the first or last battle where a lot of french knights die.
The formation of the French standard army was more because Charles VII didn't want another idol like Jeanne D'arc potentially usurping his nation due to religious zealotry.
Damn, now the kettle hem is in, it's literally Warband tier of technology.
Kayden Barnes
Well Valandia did make it out alive and turned into Swadia and Rhodoks, so it makes sense to have them powerful, even if this is about alternative scenarios happening.
Angel Ward
are you telling me there are factions within factions now?
Nathan Long
But no plate armor like in warband, as far as I know.
Logan Adams
Please tell me we'll be able to marry rulers in Butterlord.
yeah but some of their troops and equipment look like late medieval compared to other factions taht are either late antiquity or early medieval, besides it seems like over the couple hundred years they regressed techoligicaly because theyre more advanced in bannerlord tah in warband
Jacob Lee
Not an M&B player but this map makes no sense overall, its like a jigsaw puzzle, a lot of arbitrary borders that somewhat disregard how human populations and culture spreads.
i dount much of the rulers will be single, that would be weird, i hope the let you marry the emperors daughter and merg your 2 gloruois lineages to create the empire to surapss any empire before it
yeah the maps shit, but theres sort of an excuse that the borders are a result of an empire fracturing and not nations established over many years of organic development, the borders are very recent and subject to fast and often change
Christopher James
Empire (3 central factions) is supposed to be in a jigsaw mess, since it's in a civil war, other seem to make sense to me.
Bentley Kelly
the valandians also broke of from the empire, of which before they were vassal lords
Gabriel Perry
Yeah, but they clearly are a coastal and river nation. And battanians all love in hilly area were rivers flow out of, land is probably not very fertile there that's why they are all peepoo forest bandits.
Adam Brown
yeah aparently they arrived from overseas so it makes sense they settled no the coast, and battanians should love forest since theyre a bunch of fucking animals
Well, I guess battanians are like celts in that they probably inhabited a large area of the landmass but were reduced by Empire and then valandians and sturgians. They were basically forced to live in forests and hills. Sturgians, again, are also overseas invaders so their borders make sense to me. Bit hard to make out those mountain chains tho.
Hunter Bennett
based werewolf chads
Dylan Robinson
Battanian probably got conquered by Vlandia and become Rhodoks.
Robert Powell
sturgians are not invaders, tehrey native to the north thyre NOT nords thyere nord influnced slavs, the nords didnt arrive yet
Benjamin Peterson
Honestly, that no Roman emperor ever purged the Senate suprises me The senators were very often shitstains who would fuck up the shit of an emperor (regardless if it was a good or bad emperor) and there were quite a few emperors who commited various great atrocities
Isaac Stewart
Yeah, sturgians later evolve into vaegir.
William Torres
Map looks like Bowser in a coat spewing purple vomit.
Jason Cook
not even right part of the map, valndians split into rhodoks and swadians rhodoks were basically a rebelion that turned into a republic, and swadians remanined under the monarchy
Chase Reed
just a joke bro
Lucas Morris
Thorax intended to, but the Italians put up too good a fight and his own men killed him before he could reach Rome.
Elijah Sanchez
thats why vlandians have troops of both rhodocks and swadians
Julian Turner
>Tfw just finished my BLACKED playthrough in warband where i took over everything (starting with Swadia) and became the KANG
shit was so fun. Just me and the desert fags in the final battle. Crushed them and WE WUZ"d em. Swadia and Nords were first because whites had to go
Ayden Allen
Lot of the memes were stuff that wasn't immediately apparent You have to play the game to notice Harlaus' ridiculous tendency to feast or Ragnar's habit of hoarding all the fiefs
Kevin Roberts
That’s actually what they’re ere going for
Jack Turner
Will mod tools be a thing? My favorite way to play Warband was that Feudal Japan mod
Nicholas Howard
there is a mod called custom troop trees. you can create your own kingdom's soldiers. 1257 ad enhanced edition and dickplomacy+ctt have it. easily modded the way you want it.
Dylan Murphy
why are you such a cringey faggot
John King
The hell's the difference between the longbowman and the.... Fiuthaill Fiann? Too low res, not sure.
Wyatt Myers
You're going to abandon thousands of your own women and children, only to cuck out and be taken captive before getting executed? >Frenchies trying to strategize
Nathan Bailey
It was for fun user calm down. I did one where I was hitler too and another where I was a mercenary and started my own mercenary kingdom and all of my troops were only hired mercs or people i knocked out.
Logan Perez
looking at the imperial states, its clear to me that the northern one is set up to die off while the west and east duke it out
desu I like this map and these nations, the possibilities are interesting with such a chaotic setting.
Aaron Butler
>the fat crier from Rome Did the actor just ham the fuck out of his role because the script itself was so bland?
probably slight diffrence in equipment and skill assigment
Adam Peterson
>all that new eastern territory wtf happened to it by the time the events of Warband happened? that looks like the core of the Empire but its totally gone and probably inhabited by more Steppeniggers in Warband's time.
Wyatt Rodriguez
>Diocletian That man was a fucking retard.
Joseph James
retcon, the way they did the map in warband it was impossible to add territory that isnt a wasteland so they just changed it
Jordan Hernandez
I mean it worked though for several centuries you can't ignore that since things can go to shit in a few decades easily.
Connor King
This is such a terrible post. Vercingétorix was willing to subject himself to the worst humiliation possible, the Roman Triumph, to save his people. And you die at the end of the Triumph, he wasn't trying to save his own skin.
Ryan Smith
I just want to be a brainlet horse nigger pillager.
Almost like battania is on it's last legs and was destroyed before the events of the original/warband
Leo Moore
It sucks that there's no heavy infantry faction.
Jason Wood
Johnny Cash covered NIN because he liked the song so much.
Grayson Davis
No stirrups so no couched lances.
Jacob Reed
Senatorial purges were popular with incoming emperors, but they never took out the whole thing because they felt they needed the support of the wealthy. That said the senate often ruined things, but the praetorian guard could be just as bad about killing emperors over petty nonsense.
Levi Ward
It seems that everyone's cavalry this time around except the Celts.
>marrying used goods i'll marry ira or destroy the southern empire in the attempt
David Moore
>or Why not both.
Luis Lopez
Otomagetari or something - Google Young Bride Manga
Thomas Rodriguez
>just as bad leagues worse actually I mean a guy outright bought the emperorship from them at one point, they did eventually get BTFO but the fact it took several centuries blows my mind
Yeah, if this was a Paradox game it would be properly balanced for multiplayer instead of this shit, every faction should be equally viable 2bh, none of that difficulty nonsense
Isaiah Jenkins
>Otho >Dude everyone supports me but I lost a single fight thanks to ignoring my generals and despite the fact that tons of reinforcements are coming and I still hold the superior position I'm going to commit suicide so the rebel becomes emperor
Christian Campbell
Remember to be a gentleman and shag your queen often enough.
Which one is more Turkic faction? Aserai or Khuzaits?
Leo Cox
Aserai, Khuzaits are Mongols. I'm just not sure if Aserai is more Turkic or more Arab
Nicholas Hall
>surrounded by other factions who either hard or soft counter its archer/light infantry units *Laughs in longbow*
Nolan Harris
My guess is that smaller nations have more strategic defenses and prosperity all around. Unlike the big ass ones where half the land is poor as shit but you still have to defend it.
Do we have a pic of what each faction looks like? The only obvious ones being aserai/Khuzait
Brayden Wilson
Armor mask is the best.
Ian Bell
There you go:
Christian Clark
Thank you
Jaxson Adams
Aserai are based more on pre-Islam Arab kingdoms.
Samuel White
Combat looks almost identical to warband, incredibly disappointed
Henry Butler
what did they belive in then? some tribal level stuff?
Leo Allen
Did they say how many companions there is in this game?
Brayden Jenkins
Egyptian Muslim. Their main army force consist of slave soldiers both conscript and elite.
Camden Nguyen
>Everything >Cavalry, pikes, and crossbows >Horse archers and archers >Cavalry and archers >Cavalry and archers >Light infantry and archers out the ass No heavy infantry faction.
>No heavy infantry faction. There is 3 troops in Sturgian tree that we can't see. I think there might be some uber shieldbearing inf. That Husclar and Swordsman looks like nice shock inf, too
Josiah Harris
Vlandia looks cool as fuck with the rhodock sharpshooters+swadian armor, definitely the op faction Battania looks like worse vaegir I'll go Khuzait for more raiding
Having a single heavy infantry line doesn't make you a dedicated heavy infantry faction. Everyone has some kind of infantry (mostly light though,) it's just that they're all more dedicated to archers and cavalry.
Owen Johnson
well, we don't know that for sure, but I'd bet 5 slavaridos that it'll be heavy inf oriented faction.
I'm fine with individual combat being the same, all I want is smarter AI
Brody Nguyen
Senpai you can see it right , it has three cavalry lines, one archer line, and one it looks like like infantry line. Even if the one we can't see is infantry, it's still a cavalry focused faction.
Julian Brown
Good, so some nations are more of a challenge than others. Anything else?
Jacob Garcia
Steppe muslims get the imperial steel.
Levi Wright
Just like real life huh
Noah Moore
BATTANIAN WOMEN WERE MADE FOR VLANDIAN COCKS
Isaiah Thomas
I hope they don't ruin the butter trade routes.
Lucas Long
What manga is this? Looks nice. If she actually shoots the bow with a thumb ring I'll marry her.
Alexander Stewart
But that looks like 2xlight and 1 medium cav. Once again, I'm not 100% sure, but my 5 slavaridos goes foras cav faction. I'm out of money now
Ethan Robinson
where is the light cavalry jinetes focused Iberian faction?
Isaac Rogers
seems pretty balanced to me >either territory is too spread out or enemies are on all sides look how condensed battania is. keep your army around ebereth and you could respond to just about any siege or battle in a few days
It's literally just a choice between mounted melee and mounted archers this time around, factions hardly matter.
Jeremiah Morgan
I believe empire will have some heavy infantry tough.
Brayden Rogers
hott
Levi Russell
Why do these idiots keep telling us about release dates many months in advance? I would have preferred if they told us 2 months before it was gonna came out, not back in 2016 and now 9 months from now. It was easier to just assume it was never coming out.
Asher Lewis
Empire has everything.
Grayson Taylor
no they explicitly say the main societal structure is based off of pre-Islamic arab tribes, though like every other region they mish mashed time periods like including the totally not mamluk subfaction
> force has superior armor > force has superior range > let's meet them in the open head on Ya I understand why you would have a hard time.
Nathaniel Reed
>Battania, the smallest faction, is surrounded by other factions who either hard or soft counter its archer/light infantry units Good, I need a challenge
Xavier Thompson
Imagine being consumed by memes and internet culture
Anthony Smith
I'm going to YEET your DANK, faggot, if you don't keep your CRINGE mouth shut.
BASED cunt.
Ryder Miller
You got the rest of these?
Michael Fisher
Literally a matter of modding, does not matter.
Angel Morgan
Will we get modding tools on EA release? Or will they wait until the bug/balance fixing phase is done?
Gavin Ramirez
How is dickplomacy?
Elijah Brown
What Bannerlord mods are you most looking forward to, Yea Forums?
Parker Jenkins
even if they released it no big project modder would bother at least for the first months, but I'm sure you can just change minor stuff yourself by opening files in notepad and rewriting values
Alexander Sanders
harem mod for a sultan playthrough, and a child recruit mod for inmersion the rest depends how satisfying kingdom management/diplomacy and battlefield orders are in native, if it's good enough I'm ok with just that, and was never interested in "total conversion" mods
Gabriel Sullivan
Nothing, save for the sacking of the library of Alexandria, pisses me off more than the sheer incompetence of the Roman senate. Like for fuck sake, your lad could’ve retaken all of the empire and restored it to the point where it could’ve survived for countless more years but those faggots ruin everything. Every fucking time something bad happens in the empire 90% of the time it’s some nigger senator.
Chase Lee
dickplo, 1257, geko, mayby some vikangz mod, too. And awoiaf sorry
Carson Hall
They literally have slave soldiers and it's a sultanate, whatever they've said it doesn't really seem to be what theyre actually doing, at the very least not unit wise.
Carson Walker
but dude the republic tho
Jordan Turner
It'll be fun to fuck with folks as a glorified mountain bandit near your own home turf, But I image any plan of expansion is gonna suck.
Is living off the land going to be a thing this time around? I always found it kind of BS a group of 30 something trained soldiers couldn't live off the land in the slightest.
Josiah Wood
I know. I'm pretty anti hype and trying not to get excited but I can't help it for the first time in years.
Christopher Young
Aserai is not Pre-Islamic but rather early Islam. Muhammad's era and Rashidun Caliphate (the one that did most of the conquests), also Umayyad and Abbasid (the presence of slave warriors). Spearmen/javelinmen/archers and sturdy medium cavalry. Infantry centric though. At least the old reveal I saw said early islam and pre-Islam.
Pre-Islamic beliefs included a range of local idols/gods (Allah was one of many, had daughters). Christianity was big in the Northern Arab states - Ghassanids, Lakhmids, Judaism was also big (Medina I think was Jewish before Islamic, Muhammad wiped out some treasonous jewish clans. Sabeans had their own faith that was listed as one of the people of the book. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaeansen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_pre-Islamic_Arabia
Probably some Manicheanism and syncretic folk religion with Christianity/Judaism elements.
Tyler Perry
Sex mods Gangs of Glasgow Mods set in Japan Mods set in medieval europe
Luke Stewart
>Christianity was big in the Northern Arab states - Ghassanids, Lakhmids RIP brothers, raped by mudman hordes.
Brandon Allen
>Infantry centric though Apparently not, shows an almost exclusively cavalry faction.
stop spewing bullshit >The Aserai are based on the Arab tribes just before the great Islamic conquests of the seventh century, which created a diverse tri-continental caliphate whose scale and institutions don't really fit Bannerlord's political system. In the centuries before, the Arabs formed a series of confederations and kingdoms inside and on the margins of the Arabian and Syrian deserts. >Historians have left vivid portraits of the chieftains, kings, and occasional ruling queens of Palmyra, Kinda, Hirah, and other principalities of the deserts. Some were morally complex characters, managing their domains with a mixture of cajoling, threats, bribes, skulduggery, bravery, and shameless nepotism. The Aserai sultan, Unqid, is cut from this mould. >The Arabs fought with short sword, long spear, and foot bow. Warriors prided themselves on their flexibility, fighting as light mounted lancers or heavy foot, in formed ranks or as individual champions. taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/41
Wyatt Young
if the power fantasy gets you off, sure. not for the grafix. they are dogshit. dickplomacy+ctt on /mbg/
Levi Wilson
Imagine ruling during the Roman Empire to be called a retard 2000 years in the future, would love to see the choices some of these fucks would make in his shoes, bet they would die within the first year of martial service
Jaxon Myers
t. Diocletian
Dylan Fisher
Early middle ages is kino.
Gabriel Mitchell
Playing Pendor for the 1st time I only ever played Diplomacy&Floris all these years so i thought I'd try a total conversion for once.
Kayden Jenkins
Looks like America American Civil war mod when
Jason Russell
God I hope that American wild west mod gets remade >you will never gun down spics and return home to your comfy texan homestead
Adam Russell
>Warhammer fantasy mods with ripped models from total warhammer >obligatory LOTR mods >Obligatory anime mods >Euro mods >Napoleonic mods A new Renaissance
>Bushwacking filthy Northerners, Injuns, and Mexicans >taking over the Mexican Empire's shit just to conquer everything on the map
Nicholas Campbell
>Obligatory anime mods A Fire Emblem mod would be pretty neat, and a lot more likely to happen now than it was a decade ago.
Joshua Mitchell
I hear vinland saga is rather popular I forsee an easy quick mod involving vikings extending that direction
Alexander Sanchez
will this be the first game with good horseback fighting
Lucas Green
Probably not.
Wyatt Lewis
Fucking never, hopefully Most boring war ever. Basically nobody died.
Nathaniel Reyes
>Most boring war ever. Basically nobody died The killcount is up to you
Alexander Green
I've changed my mind. Time to mow down as many Americans as I can. I will wage war indiscriminately. Black or white, north or south, slaver or slave, I care not; all must die.
Caleb Thompson
fuck you euroshit the american civil war is one of the bloodiest in history you couldnt understand the sacrifrices made
Thomas Ortiz
Read up on a real war, plebeian. Even the English Civil War killed more people, proportionally, and that was basically a bunch of butthurt shoemakers going for a picnic with muskets. Unironically, why does it make Americans so butthurt when you point out they've never lost many people in a war? Shouldn't that be a good thing?
You can tell they really want to praise the caliphate there.
Charles Nguyen
Their Islamic Ruler might "cancel" the game if they don't.
Andrew Gomez
Militaristic cultures pride themselves not just on their victories, but on the sacrifices made to achieve them. It proves them brave.
Hunter Hernandez
Aserai is -1 years before Mohammad. Why? Because I will be their Mohammad. We shall crush all the nonbelievers.
Juan Thompson
Make sure you're illiterate and have a mod to marry kids, just so you fit the part better.
Noah Butler
Strong men have no need for written words, and they sleep with whomever they please. The great Christian hero and destroyer of the Muslims in Europe knew this.
Burgundy looks fucked >no coast >border FIVE other colours >long borders that mean parts could easily be cut off
Jordan Cox
Charlemagne? He spent his later years trying to learn to read, mandating literacy for priests and heavily suggesting it for nobles, and levied orders to preserve as many Greek and Roman texts as possible no matter their content. The man despite being born a barbarian king was absolutely a big fan of the written word.
Cooper Jenkins
Where's the Sword Sisters?
Jayden Roberts
there are 3 specific sub factions, vikings, slavs and finnish gypsies same with every big faction, you pick your flavor
too busy sucking my dick to be in the game, sorry about that
William Jackson
Everyone has cavalry and archery options this time, so it will probably be less dramatic than in Warband.
Camden Stewart
Why? it's 2020
Joshua Bailey
Can you join them?
Jason Lopez
Only the empire doesn't have one because of internal strife.
Gavin Mitchell
>It's 2020 Hello future year man
William Fisher
honestly, i'm good with it. i think weird map quirks are gonna make it more fun, and give each faction a little bit more distinction, aside from just their terrain textures and units.
Diocletian divided the empire in four, not in two, and it was called Tetrarchy. The division in two happened with Theodosius. I see that there are many historylets in this thread. The Empire was de jure only one, but many times in it's history the managament was divided beetween powerful man to avoid civil war and to deal with overextension. This should have happened also in the situation of western and eastern empire, but barbarian pressure, powerful barbarians taking power, child emperors, death of excellent characters, and rivarly beetween the courts of west and east, diverging philosophies and religious matters, caused the de facto division that could been have been restored formally again (like happened many times), but traitors and total collapse in the west happened and stopped the possibility.
