Which would win in a fight, the characters on the top or the entire Smash roster?

Kirby alone could take them

reddit's down the hall mister

Not even the strongest Smash character, Sonic is

Wario is indestructible in most of his games.

Mario can access QPUs. He wins.

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Almost half the characters in the top could solo all the characters on the bottom

Out of the ones I'm familiar with,
>Yukari and Reimu stomp nearly everyone aside from maybe Pit/Dark Pit, Shulk, Bayonetta, and Ness
>Lain gets bodied
>Asriel gets bodied
>Homura gets bodied by Shulk or Kirby, possibly Pit/Dark Pit
>Sakuya could go either way with most of the cast since timestop is busted but it requires that she not do some retard shit like get herself stuck in a trap
>Chara isn't shit since his only power is meta nonsense that means nothing in-universe
Of course, all Touhou characters get put on even ground with the Smash cast if spellcard rules are in play.

Demifiend could solo everyone
Bern could solo everyone
Lambda could solo everyone
Evatrice could solo everyone
Yukari could probably solo everyone
Asriel might be able to solo everyone
Homura, Lain, and Chara's powers are too weird or situation to quantify but in the right situations they could also solo everyone.

> Chara
> Him
Opinion already invalidated right there

>power level wankery thread
It's fiction, a literal peanut could best all of the characters at once if i wrote a story about it

Every single character on the top solo's everyone, unless Sonic is his Archie Comic version.

>Shulk at his full potential can think an entire universe since he's God.
>Could think everyone out of existence if he wanted.

This thread is pure cringe. Never post something like this again.

He's only the god of his own universe, there are characters on the top that are beyond multiversal, beyond the concept of spacial dimensions.

power level wankery is stupid, by that point you might as well be mashing action figures together on a playground

You're not entirely wrong, but there is a logic to it at the very least. It's just a headache.

Aren’t Shulk and Ness the actual strongest ones considering they’ve killed actual gods before? Like, actual destructive gods, not just title shit like Palutena.

End game shulk is easily the strongest, but obviously the one in smash isn't endgame shulk. Even if you counted him though it's still not close.

it's still just jerking off how cool and awesome x character is, which is basically a non-discussion

I’d assume all the top characters are in endgame forms, too, so I think it’s fair enough to give endgame forms to the bottoms

i want to read that story, user. it could be called "superNut: from peanuts to power"

It's a discussion if it's comparing characters that interact in an interesting way. Goku and superman get compared still to this day because they're around the same level. It's only a non-discussion if the gap is enormous, like in the case of the OP image.

Chara is a girl.

Odd choice but either Homuhomu or IWAKURA RAIN. Personally I'd main Bern tho.

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t. never played a single kirby game

seething snoy

Source?

t. only knows about kirby and not the characters on the top
If you knew about both you'd know kirby aint shit. He can destroy solar systems, big deal.

Google Chara right now, most of the images will picture her as a girl.

Kirby can probably at least kill the two Undertale people. I don’t know about the others

That's just fanart. I'm asking for an official citation.

Frisk & Chara's gender is left ambigious to whatever people view them as. If most of the internet pictures them as girls, then that makes them canonically girls

>Frisk & Chara's gender is left ambigious to whatever people view them as.
Correct
>If most of the internet pictures them as girls, then that makes them canonically girls
Absolutely not. Do you know what canon means?

kirby would suck them up and then he would have their power
so kirby wins

Kirby can't even suck up minibosses without weakening them first. Do YOU play the games?

hypernova bro
do you?

give me a rundown on archie sonic, how busted is he?

I know all of them minus the sailor moon looking one and Kirby would destroy them

That's Kirby just fucking around

Basically, although I would main Lambda.

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>Kirby eats Reimu
>now Kirby can use Fantasy Heaven
GG anime waifus

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As cringey as they are, the top would win easy.
None of them could defeat him though.

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can kirby beat a character that has literally any and all actions benefit them regardless of it even making any sense whatsoever? Their mere existence automatically invalidates the very rules of everything. They basically win just by existing.
that's the level of horseshit some of the top row is and why this thread is a pile of garbo

How the fuck would kirby destroy Bern and Lambda? You either don't know them or you're retarded. They could both take on millions of Sailor Cosmos without even putting in effort.

That's just common courtesy

literally deus ex machina

See Pic related

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These threads are actual fucking garbage when it's more than just one character vs another. It always ends up at the point when only one character on each side is relevant anyways.

How? The concept of Requiem Stands was established in Part 4.

Kirby is indestructable, he'll win no matter what power he copies

It's not an asspull, the fight is just boring. Jotaro learning how to stop time was an actual asspull and it was still more enjoyable than GER.

Conventional durability means nothing to the characters on the top, some of them could delete kirby on a conceptual level.

>Kirby befriends you
Literally no counter

Now here's an actual good argument for Kirby.

>Yukari instead of Hecatia

Cute

This would actually be a pretty good fight, assuming Lambdadelta didn't just send all her opponents to the certainty where they all lost.

The way I see it, Smash has heavy hitters like Kirby, Palutena, Shulk, and Bayonetta. Each of these guys can individually counter someone like Demi-fiend, Reimu, or Homura (And IMO Bayonetta hard counters Sayuka) but their max power isn't anywhere close to the heavy hitters on top, Bernkastel and Lambdadelta. The issue is that, while Bayonetta, Shulk, etc are gods and/or god killers, Bern and Lambda are conceptual magicians with absolute power over certain domains of reality. Definitely more powerful than the god that Shulk killed and then basically embodied. Lain is similar, but to a lesser extent. Maybe there's enough cannon fodder to distract the rest while Smash's heavy hitters focus them down, but Lambdadelta can make sure that never happens with her certainty bullshit. That said, Ness and Lucas eat Asrael and Chara's asses for breakfast. Undertale is a roundabout Mother tribute and Ness/Lucas fought tougher enemies than the anime goat boy in their own games.

Sailor Moon, Lain & the Umineko witches are so overpowered that it renders this thread meaningless

Kirby and Bayo can deal with a ton of shit, but Umineko characters are basically cheating.

Donkey Kong has toonforce, he's invincible.

The thing about Sonic is we've seen him with all his alternate power ups but the big what if is if he uses them all together.
INFINITY THE HEDGEHOG

Here's a real question since top wins too easily, smash roster versus comic sonic verse

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Sonic has defeated gods too.
Also I wouldn't throw the Fiyah Emberem characters under the bus. Defeating dragons is quite the accomplishment itself. But DK punched the fucking moon sooooo....

Comic Sonic is literally faster than the Flash, with Pico-second feats, and traversing the multiverse several times in a day.

Super-Sonic is Reality-Warper levels. Multiversal.

Lain is a literal god too
This is a stupid matchup

>Bern and Lambda are conceptual magicians with absolute power over certain domains of reality. Definitely more powerful than the god that Shulk killed
But that's damn near Zanzas thing as well. If he wasn't bound by RPG writing he could've easily remade the world how he saw fit as he was the remaining god of that universe only countered by some autist and he band of gaggles. There's an argument that Shulk could easily be on the same level as Bern and Lambda after getting the Monado III but the writing of the game chooses not to go that route and get straight to the happy end. The most disappointing thing is that XC2 could've delivered after revealing Alvis was the third Aegis and just how truly busted they were if all three were together in the same room but once again opted to get straight to its ending.

Zero way asriel could do shit to Kirby. Idk about those other weeb retards tho

Could all of those characters together beat Heaven Ascension DIO though?

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I can see Simon and Richter killing Flandre and the two Undertale characters.

Ness didn't, the player did.
Admin Shulk is a reality warping fucker, yes.

>Reimu
>Yukari

>Not hecatia

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>Posts the old list without Hero or Joker

Hero could Solo all these faggots easily by virtue of his stats making him nearly untouchable and able to strike damage in the thousands, where most other DQ character can barely get into the early hundreds

That's literally the plot of Smash 64 though

being god of a single universe is basically an ant compared to witches from umineko

My Mii is literally Jesus, you complete faggot. He solos everyone on your retarded weeb list by simply willing them out of existence.
GG fuckwit, try harder next time

Jesus doesn't have access to that ability, dumbass, his power is Granted by God and God never gave him the ability to kill people

This is a death battle, fag. Why the fuck would lain want to kill Kirby?
Jesus wins, gg, go fuck yourself

Once again, that's due to the shit writing and not properly delving into the rules and laws behind being a god of x universe. The fact that Klaus was able to exist as a god in two universes with separate consciousness, one monitoring the other tells you how far this can all be stretched.

Death Battles have previously established abilities, they don't just make up new ones like fucking blinking people out of existence

Going off of his feats YHWH is weaker than the umineko witches.

Pichu or Daisy

Kirby sucked up a boss's lifebar. He's not even bound by the rules of his own universe. Kirby, like a lot of Nintendo characters are basically Mask tier in terms of abilities. They can at any moment they want, do anything they want. It's like, you can apply whatever stupid rule you want, it doesn'y matter.
>b-b-but can he beat this 2hu that both is and isn't in existence and doesn't want to not exist therefor doesn't not exist while existing in the same existence inside someone else's ballsack in an infinite void of both nothingness and non-nothingness
Yes. The answer is yes to all questions. About as dumb as asking if Mickey Mouse could kill Jesus. "b-but he's motherfucking JESUS CHRIST NIGGER", and Mickey dosn't give a fuck. He'll turn him into bubble gum and chewing Jesus up because he's a fucking cartoon character not bound by anything.

>comparing SMT gods that can be shot to death to literal omnipotence
Literal retard. Jesus beats your worthless fucking anime bitches.

Even if we extrapolate that to him having a separate consciousness in every universe, even a multiversal god is weaker than they are. They're not the absolute peak of fictional character strength, but they're definitely getting there.

Kirby wins

God is stated to be omnipotent
Omnipotence means he can do literally anything with zero effort

I'm not comparing SMT gods, I'm comparing the God of the Bible that, at most, created the universe, and SAYS he can do anything. "Omnipotence" is a fallacious and worthless concept and every noteworthy theologian in the world will tell you it's just "omnipotence within reason".

What is Episode 9 suppose to be about again?

God isn't stated to be omnipotent, that's just a modern day concept of God because people don't actually know what God is capable of.
If he could just poof people out of existence surely the old testament wouldnt sound like a bunch of wild ramblings

Whatever God is, is more powerful than anything your mind can come up with. More than anything the fucking bible can even describe, and evem greater still. It's impossible for man to even grasp a single speck of God's power.

Kirby has toppled entire other dimensions fuck off.

Like you can scream reddit all you want but it doesn't change the fact he has cartoon physics going for him.

Nope, you’re wrong
Jesus wins every fight against retarded anime characters by default

We're comparing characters from fictional stories here though.

>like a lot of Nintendo characters
Like fucking who? No seriously, faggot? Who? Mario? Not even he does the same sun stepping on a roach bullshit Kirby does. Kirby is a walking enigma of bullshit.

>God is Omnipotent, he can do whatever he wants
>So then why does he go through the effort of making a bunch of Theatrics likes Floods and Giant Bugstorms, why not be more efficient?

>uhhh

Yeah, exactly. He fits right in.

On you know what
I make an Azathoth mii. GG faggot, I win

>Kirby has toppled entire other dimensions fuck off.
Even if that were true, that's still trivial compared to some of the characters in the top.

What I mean is in the story that is "The Bible", he hasn't really done much to prove his power.

Super Mario Maker. He's basically God.

>DURRRRR MY BULLSHIT ANIME CHARACTER CAN TOPPLE DECKADIMENSIONS, WHICH ARE LIKE THE DIMENSIONS ABOVE DIMENSIONS
You know, eventually this shit just becomes retarded

Well unfortunately for you, I just made a mii of a character in my own OC story called niggerfaggot, and his only power is to make sure that in the specific scenario where the OP image is brought up, other miis besides himself can't be considered for the discussion.

Azathoth would actually win though you're right about that.

>DURRR MY PINK BALL CAN DESTROY PLANETS, STARS, AND EVEN TOPPLE DIMENSIONS

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My mii, azathoth 2, is 2 azathoth. He hard counters niggerfaggot.

I’m not siding with anybody, retard. You’re both idiots.
At least Kirby has some self awareness about it. Lain is the only decent anime form the top image

As in feats? I mean Genesis is all you really need lore wise. That's in addition to shit like turning niggers into pillars of salt.

It's actually written well in Umineko though. None of it is there for the purpose of powerlevel wankery, it's just to facilitate a meta story about detective novels.

Characters on top get stomped by Kirby easy

Only if they stole Kirby's cake

Feel like I should mention that:
>Shulk has a sword that rewrites reality
>Bayo punched a god into the sun
>Ness fought a literal alien demon that could not be perceived
>Cloud fought a guy who blows up literal planets
>Mewtwo is literally the strongest Pokémon alive outside of a star destroying alien from another dimension and god himself
>Ryu goes toe to toe with characters like this all the time, including Dr.Strange who’s abilities literally warp the fabric of reality at their full potential

>Umeniko character on top
Yeah, top stomps.

>Ryu goes toe to toe with characters like this all the time, including Dr.Strange who’s abilities literally warp the fabric of reality at their full potential
Honestly crossover shit like this shouldn't really count.

>omnipotence with reason
What does that even mean? You can do anything but you can't defy logic? How does that even work?
>you can do anything.... within reason. Like, make 2 and 2 equal 4.

Yes, exactly. For example, even God can't create a married bachelor. The argument essentially goes like: Contradictions and logical impossibilities don't actually "exist" as anything, they're literally nothing. As a result, their "nothing" is not included in the "everything" that omnipotence is capable of.

>Ryu goes toe to toe with characters like this all the time, including Dr.Strange who’s abilities literally warp the fabric of reality at their full potential
Sometimes I forget that Ryu likes crossing dimensions and challenging planet blusters because fuck you, I wanna face powerful opponents and test myself.

In that case Ryu is a dude who can still survive catastrophic shit like an island being blown up by Akuma punching it. Nowhere near as strong but still worth the fact that Ryu is pretty fuckin durable.

Assuming the Satsui No Hado can be used, that is still a technique that attacks the soul directly with people’s sins, and Chara & Asriel have a lot to be beaten with.

>The entire fight in the colosseum is "whoever gets the arrow wins"
>Giorno gets the arrow
>Wins
>DEUS EX MACHINA COMPLETE ASSPULL WAAA

>Mewtwo is literally the strongest Pokémon alive outside of a star destroying alien from another dimension and god himself
And the gods of time and space. And fug. And arguably the original dragon whos powerlevel is only theorize to be exactly what is implied Zekrom+Reshiram+Kyurem wrapped with a bow. Also Genesect gave Mewtwo a run for its money in the movie. And maybe Celebi who could go back in time and prevent it from existing in the first place.

>Defeating dragons is quite the accomplishment itself
The problem here is that the dragons that the FE crew face are all country-level at best, since they've usually been beaten by humans before and get beaten by humans again. Along with this, they all have an elite force of about 12 people with them to back them up, so the enemies they defeat are more of a group effort.
The only one in smash that breaks this Ike, since he did kill a legitimate god. Although she was only half of her full self, and Ike was being powered up by the other half, and he had a squad with him like the other games.

This doesn't really hold a candle to the stronger characters here, as someone else said once the powergap gets too big there's just no point in discussion, and I'd say the gap between country-level and universe-level destruction is pretty damn big.

But didn't God create everything in addition to the laws of logic that the universe is bound by? What if God were to simply change them or made new ones that included logical contradictions and impossibilities? The problem I have with a God that isn't omnipotent is. A. what seperates him from anyone else? B. How was it even capable of creating the laws that govern the universe? To have created them means God could invent a set a rules, so doesn't that mean God could have created a different set of rules that defy logic and possibility? C. The bible has Jesus peforming miracles, acts such as walking on water, or turning water into wine, or raising the dead. These are actions that defy logic and possibility.

I feel like a God, at least as far as we understand it, is incompatible with limited potency. The very act of creating laws of reality requires an absence of them. So at some point it had to defy logic and possibility in order for logic and possibility to come into being. Its first act alone is absurd

Just google it lol

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence_paradox#Proposed_answers

>Kirby sucked up a boss's lifebar. He's not even bound by the rules of his own universe.
So did Suika in touhou 7.5, and Reimu still beat her.
Her power is explicitly stated to be that she is not bound by anything, not even reality.
She is not any less bullshit than Kirby.

The entire point of Kirby is that he can destrioy literal omnipotent gods because is funny, he is a gag character on the same vein of Saitama..

Right, and Kirby can technically die to things bound by his own universe. The only logical explanation I can offer you is that for some reason or another this character, like Kirby, didn't tap into those abilities that grant her immunity to being beaten. Maybe like Kirby not being motivated by cake she decided it wasn't worth putting in all of her effort. Or maybe on some level she wanted to lose. What I can say about such characters is that they aren't necessarily weaker than Reimu, but rather lost due to necessity to plot or some other reason. So basically, Kirby COULD lose to her, but it's no guarantee. It depends.

If we're going off of meta interpretations of characters instead of in universe feats, then Chara is just as strong.

Reimu can die, reminder that Kirby never dies on his games, he just falls a sleep.

Except he doesn't, Kirby never dies on his games he just goes to sleep.

Dunno if I missed something from Undertale, but don't Chara "power" only works in that vein if he dies?

Kirby doesn't really needs to kill him in order to beat him in a fight.

Reminder that Reimu never dies in her games either, and only goes home to recuperate when she loses.

Asriel literally can't take damage in that form, and Chara has DETERMINATION

Actually, that's true. If Kirby just inhales Chara, they go to a pocket dimention and are fucked.

Kirby beats the fags on the top and the rest of the smash roster (including yur gay deity miis) in 1:00 minute and so easly that it seems that we are watching a playtrough of Star allies.

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No, Chara doesn't need to die. He can just reload a save.

Not only that's not true in all of the games, she would still need to leave the battlefield to go home making her a the loser of the fight.

And then go back to the pocket dimmenssion, What would be the point?

Leave all of them to me

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I think falling unconscious would count as a loss for Kirby as well then.

OP here, this thread is fucking gay, I just wanted to mock Nintendo fags who don't know anything outside that.

But you Kirby fags are annoying, you know what, you win, Kirby is stronger than any character, any god, and anything in existence.

He can move a hand and kill God, happy now?

Just fuck off and stop talking about Kirby in my thread

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Special (check my melody, my melody)
You think you're special, you do
I can see it in your eyes, I can see it when you laugh at me
Look down on me and walk around on me
Just one more fight about your leadership
And I will straight up leave your shit
'Cause I've had enough of this
And now I'm pissed, yeah
This time I'ma let it all come out
This time I'ma stand up and shout
I'ma do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway
This time I'ma let it all come out
This time I'ma stand up and shout
I'ma do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway

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Yeah, but we got to this meta level thing because we couldn't agree on who makes the other unconscious, based on the possibility of a tie, Kirby is the one that takes less time to go back and claim victory.

Most of the characters would stomp Goku with Limp Bizkit in the background.

Maybe try goku with in the end and we can talk.

You know, just because Reimu goes home to recover in the games, doesn't mean she has to be home.
It's just more comfortable for her.
If leaving the battlefield counts as a loss she'd obviously not do that.

But can any of those characters beat Maadara Uchiha?

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It starts with one
One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme to explain in due time
All I know
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away
It's so unreal
You didn't look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Tryin' to hold on, didn't even know
I wasted it all just to watch you go
I kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory
Of a time when I tried so hard
I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To remind myself how I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mockin' me
Actin' like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised it got so far
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then
But it all comes back to me in the end
You kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually
Be a memory of a time when I tried so hard
I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter

You can't beat Goku, Yea Forums.
He is eternal.

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Oh, that's better actually so I guess this goes to who recover first.

Lsiten to good music

youtube.com/watch?v=9r7X3f2gFz4&list=RD9r7X3f2gFz4&start_radio=1

Why the fuck people keep makind this threads?, they always end as a list of Kirby feats.

My mii OC is 9th dimensional and solos both team weeb and team smash

>muh kirby
>can't even defeat a gordo

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Is Reimu seriously on the same power level as Megaten protagonists and Umineko witches?

Reimu is ridiculously broken but is bound by spellcards rules
Though lambdadelta is even more broken

I pick the Sailor Goddess

Reimu is bound by spellcard rules only to make it a fair fight for the youkai.
She put them in place herself.

top. asriel is literally fucking god like that.

Heaven Ascension DIO is only able to rewrite reality and multiverse level at best, so 2 Umineko characters would be enough to beat him. He'd absolutely destroy the Smash roster and Demifiend though