Toriyama is a genius

toriyama is a genius

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Imagine being forced to write, draw and expand the universe you wanted to be over 20 years ago.

i want her on my forehead

I must say, I'm really liking this design.

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I want her slimy shit log to slide down my throat

Good. Dragon ball put toriyama on the map. Of all the big shonen, dragon ball is the shortest one, naruto is twice as long as dragon ball and one piece is looking to be 4 if not 5 times longer.

Fuck toryiama you WILL dragon ball and you will draw it NOW

hottest vydia girls thread?

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Did Toriyama actually make this character? Because she's from a video game, I'm assuming he had no actual involvement in it.

>Jeice but fat and with tits

why

Oh boohoo, I'm "forced" to continue this cashcow of the series that is a global phenomenon, a success the likes of which my contemporaries can only dream of having.

Ribrianne was better.

Yeah, I'm thinkin based. I would drink that milk

Didn't he try to start another manga that went nowhere because everyone was all like "fuck this I want Dragonball"? It must suck to be typecast like that. But I'm sure the fat stacks of cash he gets every nanosecond Super is on the air makes the pain go away.

Fat roja vados, bravo Akira

Oh shit it is Thursday, isn't it Brosnanposter?

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will Toriyama ever surpass this design?

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Desu he did that last year.

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Don't know, but he did make android 21 which is exclusive to fighterz.

Oh god, if only i did the art for a cultural touchstone JRPG and wrote and drew a international success that put shonen anime on a global scale and all i have to do is come up with plots like "Interdimensional Tournament" and new hair colors

fuck me my works are so popular as to have multimillion dollar companies like microsoft beg me to do their artwork

Android 21 and Cheelai are both better.

Caulifla was a character created by the animation studio, not by Toriyama

yeah bro I bet that faggot Toriyama abosultely fucking hates makes a retarded amount of money

>the game will have slice of life scenes of Goku and Gohan having father/son bonding moments

This is literally the only aspect I care about, desu. I've seen the Saiyan to Buu Arc shit enough times.

If most Dragon Ball names are food, then what's this?

Breast Milk
Also Chi Chi is Spanish for boobies. Toriyama has and always will be /ourguy/

Except toriyama came back at his own will cause amerilards made a terrible movie based on his franchise.

He already did.

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I doubt it. A21 had "designed by Toriyama" in every magazine she was in before DBFZ came out, so I assume it would be the same here. They always try to hype up OC's by saying it was designed by the original author.

Toei created kale and kefla, caulifla was done by toriyama himself.

I mean after like 5 beers I’d fuck a melon if I had the opportunity so I’m not gonna complain

>el cabron has been around for several months now
>still barely any lewds
what the FUCK

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based and underrated

>knew it was about dairy since all the ginyu are dairy
>look it up
>it is fucking breast milk

>"designed by Toriyama"
Do you have any proof that A21 and/or Bonyu wasn't designed by Toriyama?

same.
before goku became all "waku waku" shit.

I would say he is

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MMM HMM

No because I wasn't there in the meeting room retard. Bonyu hasn't been shown with a "desgined by Toriyama" tagline like A21 was in all the magazine scans.

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>noodle soiyan
Get that trash out of here.

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Absolutely gross. Saiyan scum like this needs to die.
t. Frieza

>non canon filler
Lmao.

I just fucking googled "Bonyu" and this came up.

What the fuck Toriyama.

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WHERES THE LEWD FANART CMON BROS

>filler is better than nu-canon
Ohnonono hahaha

>jobbers who got wiped out by frieza in filler
That's even worse.

>when DB girls werent sticks with just a pair of boobs

Hell, even Bulma suffered with this. She had such a thicc body until the end of the Cell saga

I love it. Americans fuck up so badly that it forces an old man out or retirement. If Americans were capable of shame, they would be feeling it in waves.

>DBZ filler was more consistent than Stupor "canon"
Kek

>retards who got wiped out by a gay lizard
Fucking pathetic.

Reminder Toei was already doing BoG on their own and Toriyama pushed himself back on.

>WAH! MUH NOSTALGIA!
Cry more you boomer faggot, I'm glad toriyama is shitting on your childhood memories.

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Are you fucking retarded? Z itself wasn't even consistent.

Goddamnit! I cannot masturbate knowing she exists in a world with Vegeta because all I think about is THIS FACE!

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She's literally one of the worst designs he's made in years. Every other girl in Super has a more interesting design, and Towa, 21, Cheelai & Bonyu are better too.

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>seething zoombaby throws out wojak edit
Like clockwork.

And yet it is more consistent than Super lmao.

>IT MAY BE SHIT BUT TORIYAMA MADE IT SO I LOVE IT
I wan't Yea Forums to get out of my vidya threads. Go circlejerk Z in your own shitty board.

>s-seething!
Cope Z nigger.

Yes, be like U6 and suck a gay lizard's dick instead.

Imagine actually believing this.

>bone-you
She packing confirmed

I don't think he designed that.

Have sex, Supercel.

Toriyama is pretty shit at character design these days. It's actually a miracle that I like 21 & Bonyu (or at least I expect to like Bonyu, since her backstory sets up what's probably a pretty funny sidequest line, granted I won't buy Kakarot).

Dilate Z tranny.

That's the laziest design I've ever seen

Goku has given an alien squid a handjob twice. Onscreen.

Does it really surprise you Toriyama would name a character after breast milk?

All alien girls in Dragon Balls have fat dicks. That's why Vegeta went to Earth. Space was getting too gay.

More like Boobyu

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Reminder that an untrained young u6 girl single handedly btfo golden frieza while the cucks from u7 were so weak that they cowered in fear from frieza and got wiped out like the cucks they were.

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Oh I am all about this

Low class warrior sayians have 2 while a Royal sayian has 3 dicks.

kys if you like this trash, hackira soiyama is a senile fuck

Kale is the only exception cause she can turn into an amazonian any time she wants.

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>lesbian saiyans learn SS2 and Legendary in a day or less
>anime makes Legendary or Berserk Kale stronger than SSB Goku
>manga rushes up and makes Kale defeat a bunch of universes out of nowhere to be stopped by U11(i think) and then Kefla happens and trashes part of that universe and THEN Gohan draws against Kefla

Jesus christ. I wouldnt mind if they already knew SS, as they should, and then got stronger by fighting Goku, but this was way retard. Same as Goten and Kid Trunks achieving SS so easily and later SS3 as Gotenks because they saw Goku transforming ONCE.

I also hate how they brought Freeza back just to be a punching bag, the joke is getting old. He needs to be the menacing villain like in the namek saga and not a joke villain that tries to schemes things.

>no fat chicks

So...waiting for the fanart and the cosplay.

Chi Chi is Spanish for pussy you retard

t.spanish fagget

HOES MAD

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Caulifla forgot ss2 and needed goku to teach her how to do it again, kale is a genetic freak so that's self explanatory. Manga made it look way worse.

t. hoe

more like braaap

Kefla is perfect = Caulifla's tomboy personality + Kale's abs

i'm straight, but i wish she could peg me

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Half Saiyans are canonically way stronger than normal ones. Gohan is depicted as being a fairly weak half Saiyan, and he outclasses how strong his dad was at the same age by a mile.

Also, aren't the lesbians from another universe? Who's to say how fast they can get strong. Maybe it rains doughnuts in their universe.

LOL she looks like Jeff Gerstmann

Wrong. Kale is perfect, Kefla is just alright because she has to be the average of Kale and Caulifla who's mediocre (I like tomboys, Caulifla is just not a good one).

Blame toei and toyo for doing their own fucked up versions of toriyamas napkin notes for the arc.

holy shit

>wojak
>KYM filename
>zoombaby
Why do I even bother with this shithole anymore

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You're acting like that makes it any better.
Just because it makes sense in Universe doesn't mean it's not shitty writing.

t. Sven Mohammad.

>Kefla
>perfect
>literally just Caulifla with green hair

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And you're acting like db has never had fucked powerscaling.

>dabbing on women AND incels at the same time
how can one man be so BASED?

>half saiyans are stronger
Enough with this meme already, every time one of them had the chance to step up to the plate they royally fucked up and got their shit pushed in. Toriyama has made this evident which is why he doesn't bother making them or the humans relevant anymore.

Based Toriyama dabbing on Waifufags and their expectations once again.

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This, kale is best girl.

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To be fair, if I already made a shit of ton money for my work back then. Why the hell do I need to work on anything instead of enjoying my retirement.

>implying

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When Goku was Kid Trunk's age, his power level was like 200.

Better than every girl in the franchise except 18, but 18 is the GOAT so there's no shame in that.

>all these retards making a big deal over a character that's never going to show up again or canon

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>ywn grab a saiyan girl's tail and fuck her silly
why even live

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Looks like a Steven Universe character.

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The U6 saiyans we know should already have SS as basis, that would skip unnecessary steps and make things better by teaching/showing off the other forms.

Her techniques and fighting were interesting, but they made her way obnoxious as her universe.

A man of taste I see.

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I found Ribrianne amusing enough as a gag character and honestly her fights are some of the better-animated ones in the ToP. I wouldn't be against her in FighterZ or something since I could see her being the an actually good zoner if they design her right.

I don't find her attractive though, whereas I do with Bonyu. I don't think I'll get Kakarot on release but I do hope she's entertaining in her quests.

Its something when your manga has been running straight for 22 years...

it really does

Could Monster Carrot defeat Beerus?

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YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
DRAGON BALL IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

Bonyu proves that any woman looks better in a freiza soldier suit.
Prove me wrong, losers.
Post women in freiza soldier suits and prove me wrong.

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>prove me wrong
I can't.

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another Buuhan vs Candy Vegetto situation

Spike could

As long it's the old armor and not the new shitty ones

Because it didn't until Freeza butchered it to make a good arc.

you better post both so we can really see the difference

Post characters who could defeat Jiren.

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Frieza's armor is a skintight suit with a breastplate.
Ever seen a fat woman wearing leggins?

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Vegito could still think, speak, move, and fight when he was turned into candy by Buu. Beerus even as a carrot would probably still be able to Hakai Monster Carrot out of existence and call upon Whis to undo his bullshit.

REMEMBER FAGGOTS
SUPER SAYIAN IS BOILED DOWN TO SPINE TINGLES!

This guy would be the most powerful villian and mostly unstoppable if it wasn't for Goku being so dumb and pure.

bruh I cant even imagine having an opinion this shit
t. best girl

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>they could've gotten Devilman as #10
>Baba could've gotten anyone from Otherworld as #10 including Gohan, Raditz, and Bardock
What a missed opportunity.

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>that heart
Fuck it's cliche and expected but that sort of thing always gets me

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>Gohan, Raditz, and Bardock
Who? *raughs*

Requesting Fortune Teller Baba in a Freiza suit to test this hypothesis.

Stop it, the pain is too much.

He is not even a villain. He was some devil looking guy that Baba invited for a sparring because Grandpa Gohan wanted.

Goku and everybody else on Earth has no clue who Bardock is. Even Vegeta never met the guy. Also Baba literally grabbed Frieza from Otherworld.

>best gril
But that's not 21(good).

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Dont forget Nappa. How saiyans work, Nappa would be a great Uncle for the Briefs family. And Raditz would have chilled down like Vegeta did and get Launch as wife since Tenshinhan had Chiaotzu

Thicc vs Sticc

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Alright user, let's get that source

Most underrated waifu coming through.

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She's just concealing her true power level.

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This hurts so much. Bulma in the 23rd tournament got so much thicc

>Become MILF
>Less curves
>Tits are the same, Goku jokes about them being saggy
What the fuck. Maybe if they canonized Bulma being the type to work so hard at losing baby weight that she weighs less than before, since I'd believe that, but it's still a shame.

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Reminder that if you wouldn't plow this you are a certified dick wrangler.

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>tfw she'll never be canon
I want to fall asleep in her hair

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Best girl coming through.

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>This image
First time I've ever preferred Chi-Chi.

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>"Why don't you just grab the other monkey who looks like you instead"
Problem solved.
You watch MasakoX, don't you.

Blame yamamuro for trying to follow toriyamas shitty design sheets. At least shitani tried to unfuck her.

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>has to be drawn off model to make her attractive
big oof

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killing wasn't allowed.

Hello panfriend.

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DAMN BOI

DAMN BOIIIIII SHE THICC

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>off model
barely, the style is just different. Her tits are barely bigger than normal and her body is generally the same.

>fannypack for a belly
No.

I can't decide, they each appeal in the best of ways I never knew Chi-Chi could be drawn in an attractive way

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It happened with every female character. Every character since Super or BoG became a stick with balloons on their chest, even 18 did. Videl had a couple of shots but that was it, she is mostly a stick after that BoG arc.

It's not fucking fair why do the games always get the best waifus?

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Different artists.

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Videl is underrated.

I thought the Ginyu Force was disbanded once all its members died horrible painful deaths

Source? I have to see this.

Would of been a bad choice, Devil man would only be able to kill people.

No. Nappa always had that typical uncle figure. The Raditz x Launch is such an old thing I dont remember where it started, maybe old doujins. But since saiyans like strong woman it would make sense

>thatcellulite stomach
im gonna be sick

She intends to get revenge by raping Goku with her fat ass.

This takes place before all that.

thicc

She's not supposed to have a neck.

And Chi Chi is also Portuguese for piss. Based Toriyama inserting watersports references into his children’s manga.

t. Poortuguese faggot

Chi-Chi is super fucking hot dude. Nothing like a hyper bitchy milf that gets the juices flowing. Her fanart is hit and miss cause most of it is incest for some fucking reason.

Sure, but there are too many choices for dead people. They could've even canonized Pikkon.

All of them.

Kakarot is yet another retelling of Z. Bunyu will probably have her sidequests on Namek.

For me, it's SKoT(dicked by demons)

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And they called her Kika instead, kek.

She does have a neck in the original, though, it's just obscured by her head mostly.

She really is underrated.

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Man we really need some doujins of her getting raped by mechikabura.

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She really gets her ass kicked in this show huh?

OH, YOU WAS EXPECTING SOME SKINNY BITCH?

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Too bad her husband is a retard.

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Maybe I've just been missing out. DBZ gals never really tickled my fancy up until recently and I started to see some in a new light (ex. Cheelai, Videl, Kefla, Launch, Ribrianne). I can definitely see the appeal in Chi-Chi though. Maybe I'll have to look around some.

Fucking shit meant for

>EHEHEHEHEHEHE LOIS, LOOK! I'M PART OF THE GINYU FORCE!

Nah, Chichi was terrible from the moment Gohan was born and the Boo arc redesign was the final nail in the coffin.
23rd WT Chichi is pretty cute though.

Does Goku even know what sex is? Did Chi Chi rape Goku?

She really isn't, unless you are one of those fags that only like milf Chi-Chi

Obviously.

Goku has no idea what kissing is. Chi-Chi absolutely tricks or forces sex on him. Probably convinced him it was part of his training during the wait for the Cell Games just to guarantee that if he died she'd have another kid.

Damn he even gave her gooch fat
What a genius

>Ribrianne
You are too far gone.

Ah I see you are a man of culture as well

It started soon
youtube.com/watch?v=buRqOYJLnOY
And later
youtube.com/watch?v=8Hqf_UOOwh0
aand
youtube.com/watch?v=XYOqjZGbD2g
>do you like eggs?

Chi-Chi was always looked good my man. Sex goddess

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Chronoa is literally the only loli I would fuck. There just something about her cell-shaded, small breast and exposed shoulders that just gets to me. Also, her adult form is hot, too.

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That looks like shit and is lazy.

she had a good design.

toriyama is working on steven universe now?

I know. Blame shit like

She didn't deserve this

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People are reading this wrong. It's not "boohoo just write/draw something." It's more he's milked out of fucking ideas.

Well, it's not even the case since he pretty much has a ghost writer and he just yesman everything.

Not him but I want to fuck Ribrianne and Bonyu like a wild animal.

How can one man be so based?

Exactly. He can just quit if he really wants to. Clearly he values money over limitless free time.

lol why is she so fat they should rename the Ginyu Force to Ginyu get on a treadmill before you start stuffing your day face again Force

>this was the pose that got her rejected

>Implying he actually does any work
He's just pretty much nodding his head to his ghost writers. Maybe making some small edits.

The flanderization of Goku into a naive battle maniac child is so infuriating, man
He's pure of heart because he's kind and caring, not because he doesnt know a benis goes in the bagina to make children
He had two children and they fucking made him a retard
Fuck Super

She got kicked out of the Force for bad poses. Probably not flexible enough, so you might be somewhat correct. Power levels make actual physical fitness moot though; Frieza never worked out a day in his life until Super.

Hot.

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Goku shakes one of the aliens tentacles during a tournament and he goes "ohhh that's my chinchin xDDD".

It's kind of insane how popular the whole "DBZ was supposed to end after the Frieza arc" myth actually is. It was never supposed to end at any point except the Buu arc.

He then deliberately helped revive the series and created Battle of Gods in response to how the West was treating DBZ

At least that part you can blame on Toriyama, he outright said the anime always made Goku too heroic and he always intended for him to be a battle loving retard but with a good heart towards his friends.
They still went too far in making him dumb to the point where he doesn’t even know how the baby is born despite having two kids.

Super is totally fine with making Goku out to be a creative and even smart fighter; throughout the ToP he comes up with half a dozen brand new variations on the Kamehameha on the spot and knows how to pace himself while having the mental capacity to even reach Ultra Instinct.

He's legitimately autistic because he has no social skills outside of learning who somebody is by fighting them.

Honestly, it's starting to get to me too a little bit and I hate this site for having THICCshit plastered everywhere, but I will kill myself before I go into full fatfag territory.

It's okay if he just likes fighting, he's a martial artist so him being dumb but clever with fighting is all fine
But him having two (2) fucking children and not knowing what a kiss is drives me up the wall. It had to be the studio, Toriyama is a hack but not that big of a hack

wrong quote

>literal autist being bad at showing affection

stop the presses

Enter CHADren

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as long it still has a womanly figure and it isnt just belly and sagging fat I'm game.
Oh fuck oh god you're right

It's not just being autistic though, Goku's demeanor has completely changed to the point he doesn't take anything seriously. Compare the ToP exhibition match to the 23rd Tournament for example, there he knew just how big a deal Piccolo was and went out of his way to avoid talking about him. ToP is just WAKU WAKU

There's a difference between not showing affection and having two children and not knowing what a kiss is
No amount of autism makes that possible

I don't think Goku was ever meant to be that retarded.

From the manga, I garnered that he knows basic social norms but he misreads people a lot. He's the type of guy to just fly in public because it's normal to him.
If someone tries to scam him whole farming, he'll call them out on it rather than be a bumbling idiot and just be ahahaha oh okay.

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123 IM HUNGRY
123 IM HUNGRY
NOTHING BUT FRIED RICE

youtu.be/7KhtsUP_DAo

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What is with this needless censorship?

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I miss videl bros.

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So did Kintoki get more chapters?

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Reminds me of that scene in Super where he stops for a guy at the side of the highway while in his truck and it turns out to be a scam to carjack/rob him. He's mostly pretty chill about it, only really getting concerned when a bullet draws blood because that means that he's been slacking off on his training.

Debiiruuumaaaaan Debiruman

Even when he was a naive and mindless kid he warn people to stop doing bad stuff, if they didnt obey he would strike down. But even then he made mistakes like Tao Pai Pai and allowed him to leave after all the bullshit.
Super just had to ruin his character and all that development from a mountain kid to a more responsible adult despite his flaws

>False SS
That was so great

Let it go and have a good ending user.
youtube.com/watch?v=_IGAgwiS9_M

I blame the power level scales.
Goku has gotten so strong, reaching god levels he’s gotten cocky, not to mention his new friends. Why take most things seriously when you are stronger than Kais and have the god of destruction and his attendant on speed dial.
Zamasu was completely in the right, divine power has no place in the hands of mortals.

any fat art yet?

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Goku being buddy buddy with gods is why 2/3rds of the multiverse weren't deleted on a whim.

Thas not really an issue, Gokus always been cocky. He always took things seriously before though

Yeah. I was thinking about that scene.
From my takes on the manga Z Goku would have definitely mess with them (in a playful way) or just call them out and be "are you sure you really want to be doing this?"

Super Goku was pretty much awwww no you can't take that :(

I like how every ending that sums Goku's journey is fucking great
youtube.com/watch?v=HX9evhBKxf4
youtube.com/watch?v=-MMbAz-U7o8
youtube.com/watch?v=kDOmbjqD5UU

I rushed this out but I'm working on a stronger illustration now.

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My favorite Videl pic

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>all my favorite db endings
>70 cm square window is the only good anything to come out of Super
I guess you're right.

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This guy is so cool.

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You missed an ending.
youtu.be/U0hrcPFd3H0

I just rewatched it because it came to mind, and at least his attitude is more "Come on guys, what are you doing?" If anything he's not even registering that he's being robbed at first because guns don't mean anything to him. He also gives this smug smile when he realizes he has to incapacitate them.

There's also the scene before it that shows that the people at the local market just know Goku as a new farmer from the area. I thought that was nice.

I don't know how well this would play out, but they should use Moro to get rid of the dragon balls for a while or at least revert them to only resurrecting once. Then there'd be stakes again.

Shit, you are right, i love that one. Dat Bulma shot with Roshi and Oolong from the mangashots

Is that ending trying to score some early DB nostalgia? I'm seeing Roshi prominently featured, Goku on the Nimbus, and Bulma in various capsule corp. machines. She's young looking too.

Man, I miss when she wsa the pilot/leader.

Raditz, Bardock, and Nappa are straight fucking dead. There's no hell or anything like that in the manga and canon except for Frieza's personal hell, so they would have been reincarnated long ago already. I assume that's why there's a year limit on reviving people with the dragonballs.

At least thats how it should be anyway, of course they'll bullshit whatever excuse to do whatever they want if they really want to.

Why are all the most powerful beings in media bald?

How is anyone hype for this shit when it's just another game where you play through Z?

Have a preview lads

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Fact: Baldies are the most powerful race.

That kind of thought process only applies to people who hate the job they do but have to do it anyway to pay the bills and put food on the table. If you were an artist and/or writer, would you only be doing the work just for the money or are you actually passionate about making it?

They've never confirmed how the process works outside some interviews where Toriyama makes some half witted comments and sometimes goes back on them.
Realistically, they could easily do it since that personal hell Freeza got was already a retcon.

You missed another one
youtu.be/XIJy5tA4DxQ

Though I guess this one is just his family

IIRC souls Yenma doesn't deem good enough for heaven just slowly fade into nothingness, I guess over that year-long period. I think that's what Piccolo tells Vegeta when he asks what's going to happen to him after he suicides against Buu.

Now that I think about it though, if Piccolo was deemed good enough to get a halo and go to King Kai's planet despite being a villain for a good chunk of his life because he turned it around to raise Gohan and fight the Saiyans, you could bullshit an excuse that Bardock redeemed himself; Super Broly's depiction of him is more benevolent than Father of Goku's too, with lines like the one he gives Gine after she asks why he cares so much about giving Kakarot a good life.

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There are no limits or years to revive people anymore.
The only thing I remember is that people only are reborn if they accept it, which we dont know if any of the saiyans did(and they are stubborn) or the likes of Cell. But i dont recall if this is canon or some anime bullshit

Hair is for the weak

Toriyama originally made something and showed us the readers it when Goku originally died. It seemed to have rules. Toriyama however notoriously forgets things, never makes notes, and never checks his own story. So who knows? He retcons and makes things up all the time.

My biggest beef with bringing back Radditz, Nappa, and others is that their role is done. They would at best be just other mid-tier fighters that we never see.

Totally unclear if Cell even has a soul. He's a soulless abomination.

What’s the pun?

Breast Milk

I always wanted Nappa and Raditz to be back for the sake of giving another chance like Vegeta had after the bullshit he did. They could be just background characters, but Goku not acknowledging his brother was bullshit

With the super dragon balls Vegeta could ask for the saiyans to be back. Their universe is short of planets with "intelligent" life, so that could be an excuse since the sdbs have bullshit powers

didn't toriyama completely forget about super saiyan 2 and or 3 at one point?
But yeah I agree, I'm not too bothered about raditz and especially nappa being gone. Villain redemption gets really fucking old when you start to do it all the time.
I do remember thinking the way Vegeta treated Nappa when all the villains returned from hell in GT was pretty fucking cold, especially considering how mellow he'd gotten over time, mellow for him at least

>Toriyama originally made something and showed us the readers it when Goku originally died.
Do you have anything to back this up?
>My biggest beef with bringing back Radditz, Nappa, and others is that their role is done. They would at best be just other mid-tier fighters that we never see.
I guess, but they still would've gotten off better than Freeza did.

IT'S NOT FAIR BROS WE WERE PROMISED RULE 63 JEICE

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No, you were promised "From Jeice's planet" and "big tits" and you got both.

Actually, anyone killed by piccolo has their soul absorbed and doesn’t get to go to the afterlife. At least not until he dies. It’s funny they never brought this up again.

What? In what universe?

>She grabs you and stuffs you in her tits
what do?

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Die happy.

>20 years ago
Toriyama wanted to stop it way earlier than that.

How do you get inside someone's tits?

he got screwed over by the writers

Argentina I think, but it's a slang, not an actual translation. Still, no matter which country actually call Vaginas chichi, she is called Milk in the latim dub because at least one does.

Half true, but no really. He was DONE after Buu, he wasn't even willing to writhe for GT, even thought Toei ask him too. None the less, he did work in the initial concept for GT, and plan the original story (the space adventure part, before GT tried to be Z). He was involve just enough, but still, he needed a break.

He did come back with problems for Yo Son Goku and his Friends are back, but still wasn't willing to get back on 100%, so instead of a new story afterwards as Toei wanted his to do (again), they made Kai.

Now, say whatever you want about Kai, but it did revive the interest in Dragon Ball around the world once again... which made the out rage for Evolutivo even bigger. This make Toriyama get interested on working 100% in battle of the gods once he had the chance, and after all this years, he seems to finally got the desire to come back, cause he did set up in the movie the bases for what super would be later.

He is not working in the same capacity as before, and he allows more people to mess around with the story, that for sure. But nobody force him back. He could easily be working just designing characters with no imput in the story as he did with the movies and late GT, not to mention the games. If he is writing for Super or the new movies, is because he wants to.

I mean, I think we all can agree that's the usual fate of all the characters. Vegeta is the only one safe, but the price to pay is to be Goku"s jobber. Still, even Jiren got it better than Gohan.

Goku’s new wife

Do you know how bad women that fat smell?
Only a nigga would enjoy that.

I need art of her and A21

... Good 21 or Evil 21? Cause the art could be very different depending of which one.

Not if they take a bath.

>Toriyama: I wish my manga will become the most popular and successful of all time.
>Paw: Granted, but it will become so beloved that no one will give a shit about anything else you make that isn't related to it.

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Sure, with a wet rag in a stick.
Don't forget to clean under the fupa, that's where the yeast accumulates.

>further paw: Most people will only give a shit about your manga after it became super serious and when you try to inject some of the comedy from the original story into it people which bitch about it.

>under the fupa, that's where the yeast accumulates.
What?

Bone(you).

>Her name, like the rest of the Ginyu Force's name puns of dairy products, means "breast milk" in Japanese.
M-Mommy

a faggot way of saying the pooch

You're not my usual doctor.

>Goku has no idea what kissing is.
Even if he didn't kiss on his own wedding, did he miss Vegeta's/Bulmas's, Krillin's, and Gohan's too? Did Bulma never kiss Yamcha while they were dating? Did Trunks never kiss Mai? Did all of these fathers Goku surround themselves with never shown any sort of affection towards their SO in front of Goku in like the up to 3 decades they knew him?

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I wouldn’t fuck her but I would fuck a girl from her race that wasn’t fat and didn’t have shit hair

Brenches can be cute

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If anything the writers got screwed over by him. He's what people think of how boring Superman is.

>Vegeta's/Bulmas's

Fat
Upper
Pussy
Area

I doubt Vegeta ever kissed Bulma in PUBLIC, for the rest, Goku did miss Krillin's wedding (being dead and all that) and I am very sure Vegeta and Bulma got married in secret. Trunks and Mai on his timeline are still "too young" (well, Trunks at least), and Goku did miss a lot of years of Bulma's and Yamcha's relationship, both before and after his teen years.

As for Gohan and Videl... do I even need to mention that Goku miss their Wedding? He at the very least got late to it in Super's anime.

Doing God's work, user.

I think most people wouldn't turn down the chance to make top dollar by designing a few characters and story outlines here or there. That doesn't change the fact that he wanted to end Dragon Ball ages ago.

As an aside, Z is massively overrated. The pacing and quality is wildly inconsistent and it's mind boggling that the show is still as popular in the West as it is.

I honestly think they were doing a fine job with him until they try to give him a backstory. When the "joke" was that he was just a walking power level, he was a nice subersion as to what to expect of a Dragon Ball antagonist (specially after the over the top performance of Zamasu), not to mention kind of a nod to the fandom and their obsession to Power Levels. Again, for me, the joke that the most powerful warrior in the multiverse was this bland brick, with Boring (not even "bad") Design, no personality and not even a second form, was kind of "brilliant" at the time. But then they try with the backstory and somehow he got just... legit boring. Still, to 5 Dragon Ball fights of all time none the less.

>As an aside, Z is massively overrated. The pacing and quality is wildly inconsistent
I'd attribute that to the fact that he stopped planning ahead after Freeza. The whole Saiyan story was over and he wasn't able to follow up with anything meaningful.

>Trunks and Mai on his timeline are still "too young"
Isn't he like 10 by the time of DBS? Maybe it a burger thing, but they've should've already been at the kissing territory, and about 2-3 years away from blowjobs.

>use bing for rewards
>search bonyu
>porn everywhere

Why do you think Kojima dipped? He wanted to end MGS at 2.

I think it's kind of bullshit that they go to the trouble of having him be disinterested in the tournament at first, only to agree when Belmod tells him that he can get "any wish" granted by the Super Dragonballs, and we never figure out what he wanted. What's more, his reasoning for disinterest was something along the lines of "I don't want to be responsible for the deaths of seven other universes." That's actually an interesting rationale for somebody on his level of strength, but nothing's done with it.

Some of that might be manga-only but still.

I keep reading this as Sweet Sweet Cummies

Is not as mind blowing when you look at the context of the time. In all honestly, even if you are not a fan of DB, the story as to how was first transmited in Cartoon Network, and how it's popularity, and Anime's popularity in general, grow in the west, is pretty interesting. In short, it has much to do with it's timing, but still, Dragon Ball, with all it's problems, was still really revolutionary for it's time, and the manga it's kind of brilliant when you stop to evaluate the panel composition and the general art.

But going back to Toriyama, what you said of character Desing, and story outlines was what he was doing just before. Some Movie or Videogame character here and there, maybe some plot ideas. Evolution's outrage, and Battle of Gods hype was what pull him back in. Battle of Gods has an original script very different as to what he got, with Beerus being just another Movie villain on Broly's and Cooler's tier, but with a bigger number, but Toriyama got fully involved, and he expand upon it. The quality may be all over the place, but he finally got the motivation to work again on this story.

>Not This

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This it's just a myth, a popular one cause one of his editors wanted the story to end after Frieza, but, ignoring how the Buu saga drop the ball in this regard, it's plain to sight that the story was building for Gohan's final battle with a Cell type villian eventually.

Ever since Raditz, they keep teasing his hidden power, yet we never got to see where this was going until Cell. Toriyama then wanted to make Terminator 2 dragon ball style to tell this story, but his Editors made him change the story a lot along the way. In any case, even if it didn't ended as he intended (I honestly wonder what was his original plan with Gero as the main antagonist... if he ever thought that far), it's clear the story was meant to continue after Frieza, if anything to end Gohan's storyline.

Granted, we can debate all day whatever or not the Buu saga was a good idea or not. It has some of my favorite moments, but again, it drops the ball so hard so many times... and the Cell saga was kind of a nice ending at the time.

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I honestly don't get why people are mad about her design. Like, at all.

Which character do you think should go gaga over her?

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Yamcha... the dude is about to loss his only girlfriend after this the Namek arch is over, and she is about to loss her job.

May as well find happiness on each other.

It's a woman with a stout build being added retroactively to the canon of a long-running series. I'm not shocked at all that parts of Yea Forums are buttmad over her. Most of them probably don't even realize she's going to be comedy relief for the most part; she's ex-Ginyu Force for fuck's sake. Pic related has her detractors as well despite just being a good character design and legit fun to play as in her game (Wild Guns Reloaded).

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>characters in the ginyu force are as strong as they because they are mutants of their races
>other than being fat this chick looks more or less what you'd expect a person to look like based on jeice

Lazy

Burter. Which is the reason he duos with Jeice. But she likes Guldo instead

>What is DQ

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Goten has a mommy fetish for her

As someone who hasn't watched super, but is an old db fan and has watched all of db/z/gt, is it true they went hispanic fanfiction tier autism with super?

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They're in the Ginyu Force because they 1. are loyal to Ginyu and thus Frieza, and 2. have some unique skill or role to play in the team. Recoome is a bruiser, Guldo stops time, Burter is fast, Jeice is 2nd-in-command and a team player. Ginyu himself probably wasn't born exceptionally strong; I completely believe that the body we know as Ginyu's was one of multiple he took with Body Change over the years.

My point is that she probably has some sort of gimmick too. Also we've technically seen another person from Jeice's home planet before: Salza.

idk if hispanic fits because many hispanics didnt like super, while americans did

Nah, it's very much at the same level of Buu saga in regards the levels of stupid shit, with cool moments... The Black saga is full JRPG though.

The filler though, is worst that have ever been, and the re tellings of Batle of Gods and Resurrection F are just terrible... if you ever decide to give it a chance, just watch the movies, and then start from the tournament against universe 6 (Champa arc) and go from there... also look for guides to skip the filler.

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I'm talking about those old hispanic fanfic memes.

>Mommy Give Me Milkies in DD major.mp3

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>the dino versions

Fucking Toriyama's senile memory. those designs could be used for some DQ game

Toriyama doesn't like super and he was worn out by the time he started writing fucking buu. DB shit only exists to sell merch at this point.

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Every 6 months or so I'll come back to Kamehamesutra for a good long fap session.

It's so weird, the art isn't that stellar but man it always does it for me.

Nice.

Watch Battle of Gods and Freeza movie. Then the anime of U6 vs 7, Black arc, ToP and the fillers below. You could always read the manga from U6 vs U7 since it differs of the anime.

Baseball episode was great. Some were alright, like that Mrsatan episode with the aliens or Arale comeback. ToP recruiting episodes were comfy

He did a series called Sand Land that was alright, but it was a pretty short run. The problem with Toriyama is that his style has no range whatsoever and he draws everything the same but with different hairstyles, so everything you see from him is "oh is this supposed to be a DB spinoff?"

>people complain about Bonyu
>when pic related exists

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Most of it is the same level of retardation as the Buu saga, but Jiren is pretty much the stupidest fucking character in the entire franchise. Goku Black is also an incredible load of nonsense, either they have zero self-awareness or they're in on the joke.

Toriyama refuse to come back twice, back on GT, and again on Kai. He finally decided to come back to help in Battle of Gods, in an attempt to fix the franchises name after Evolution, and as it's turns out, he come with so many ideas, that Super ended coming to be. He was the one who decides to come back.

He already had the money for merchandise anyway, plus, he got paid anytime Toei ask him to draw a new character for the movies and the games, heck, Toei already had an idea of Beerus that Toriyama discarted to make his own take on the idea of a God of Destruction.

Toriyama may not be as devoted to Super as he was to the original DB, but believe me, nobody is forcing him to do this, other wise he would leave at let Super be other GT. He already gets all the money he nees making sketches for characters on both Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest that other artist have to expand upon later. Heck, he even got paid for approving Janemba's design, even when he didn't change anything!

>it's plain to sight that the story was building for Gohan's final battle with a Cell type villian eventually.
That's practically nothing, Gohan's hidden power was never enough to fit an entire narrative and most of the Cell arc has nothing to do with him.
>Toriyama then wanted to make Terminator 2 dragon ball style to tell this story, but his Editors made him change the story a lot along the way.
He had Gero and 19 who hold no significance toward anything and popped up out of nowhere. It's even more obvious that he hadn't planned any of it because he had to use retcons to make them matter at all.

Who is this chunk of mama?

Kind of. Here's the best cliffnotes I can come up with for Super:
>Goku meets another god of the universe that was sleeping, his job is to delet shit because balance, after fighting for a while over whether Earth should be deleted they become friends; Goku unlocks a new Red form that lets him access the same sort of ki as the god to even come close to his power
>Frieza's remaining followers steal the Dragonballs and wish him back to life; Frieza realizes that the Saiyans trained to get stronger and he never has so in like 3 weeks of exercise he jumps from Namek power levels to around where Goku was when he fought the god. Goku & Vegeta show up and show off new blue forms that combine that god ki with Super Saiyan and kill Frieza again
>Goku's new god friend's brother from another universe shows up and they decide to have a 5v5 tournament; the new universe is a counterpart to the main one so we meet an alternate saiyan, an alternate Frieza, two weirdos, and an assassin (by the way there's a god above all other gods)
>A young Kai of one of the other universes (there's 12) is disgusted by Goku having access to god ki; he travels to Trunks' future, hijacks an alt-timeline Goku body, teams up with his own alt-timeline self, and vows to delet all mortals from all timelines of all universes
>The god above all the others is so bored that he's gonna delet 8 of the 12 universes for no reason until Goku suggests they have a tournament and the winning universe stays; huge battle royale of 80 fighters happens over 45 in-universe minutes (aka ~50 episodes)
Then Super ends but we got a movie:
>Broly is canon now; here's how his backstory goes now and also we changed up Bardock's story too. (Watch this one even if you skip the Super series; it looks great and there's some great character moments)
Then there's the currently manga-exclusive arc:
>Space wizard baphomet dude eats planets and casts spells and shit to explain how he can fight Goku & Vegeta

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Neko Majin was fun. Jaco is also good and was great bringing since RoF

How can anyone find this hot? It's not even nasty, it's just nothing.

Which one of you niggas fucked with this here

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I was looking forward to this game until they showed that monstrosity.

Im a fatfag and even I dont like this one

Black/Zamasu are self aware, but in a good way. Everyones call him out, or flat out ignores his JRPG Final Boss BS, but they still take him seriously as a thread. And he acknowledge that nobody cares about his personal Drama, but he doesn't care bacause "Lowly Mortals can't simply understand me, so why bother?". Again, it's self aware in a good way, because both parties act as they should, the main cast doesn't give him special treatment, and he doesn't cares.

The whole arc is a mess for how the "mystery" is handle, plus the time travels paradox all over the place, but I still think it's at equals ground with the Buu saga. IT's high moments aren't as hype as the one in Buu's, but as a balance, Buu's low moments are far worst than the ones in the Future Trunks arc.

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Forgot to mention, you should 100% read Jaco even if you avoid Super. It's a prequel to the entire series, and is really only tangential to the plot itself, but it's a really chill semi-comedy manga that you can burn through in a couple hours and gives you a little extra wrinkle of context.

Jaco in Fighterz fucking when?

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Tits aren't nearly big enough.

>It's even more obvious that he hadn't planned any of it because he had to use retcons to make them matter at all.
Yeah... like with Piccolo and Kami being aliens, same with Goku. Even in the Saiyan arc, the idea of Frieza was none existing, he comes out of nowhere just as Gero and all the Dragon Ball villains always does.

Retcons and made up shit is the name of the game in Dragon Ball, starting from the moment it turned from a adventure comedy into a martial arts manga. Again, Gohan's had an arc in motion, and it was clear that the Frieza arc was never meant to be the end. Specially whit Goku being absent most of it, from a story telling perspective, Frieza makes for a terrible ending. Great arc, but a bad Ending, with Gohan having the whole character arc between the Saiyan and Namek arc, but not resolution in sign for his story.

Are those designs how Kami was supposed to look originally?

Become a chad and you will understand.

Sadly, the manga just introduced a new member of the Galatic Patrol, that they are hyping up as the ew Trunks (Cool kid, with great power and such), so he may take the spot for Jaco in all future video games from now on.

I also think other characters may take priority over Jaco as the "comic relief pic"... but as long as Neko Majin and Arale are on that list, I am fine with that.

>starting from the moment it turned from a adventure comedy into a martial arts manga.
Nah, Goku was always a martial artist guy from day one, the biggest retcon in the history of manga is when he turned Goku into a motherfucking alien out of the fucking blue.

do you think this is a pun on donut steel?

imagine the shits

Yeah, he's a pretty cool guy, but Jaco should still be the most popular of the two.

ugly dyke

They're pretty cute together, though.

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So she is the same race as Jeice?

Yes, someone also pointed out that Toei just love making up new characters of that race for Dragon Ball media in general for some weird reason.

Honestly, if Season 3 was all Super-era shit, I'd still be fine with it as long as Jaco & Toppo got in. UI Goku, Dyspo & Ribrianne would have good playstyles even if I'm not a big fan of them, as well. I guess Kefla too.

Of course you can also easily grab some more side villains from Z, movie characters, a GT villain, OGDB characters, or another game-exclusive character. Dabura, 19 and/or Gero, Bojack, Tapion, Baby Vegeta, Omega Shenron, Towa, Xeno Goku, Bonyu.

>and it was clear that the Frieza arc was never meant to be the end. Specially whit Goku being absent most of it, from a story telling perspective, Frieza makes for a terrible ending. Great arc, but a bad Ending
I never said it was, I said he didn't plan ahead after that.
>Yeah... like with Piccolo and Kami being aliens, same with Goku. Even in the Saiyan arc, the idea of Frieza was none existing
It's not about the retcon itself, it's about the fact that they don't matter without it. Piccolo, Kami, and Freeza to an extent were all tied into the story without that. Gero and 19 on the other hand come from Red Ribbon which makes no fucking sense outside some loose idea with Eighter and has absolutely no significance since they were all a fucking joke compared to someone like Freeza who's directly intertwined with Goku.

Although is never stated anywhere I have a theory, kid Trunks and Goten can transform into super saiyans by default because their parents conceived them after achieving the transformation. Notice how future Trunks and Gohan have to achieve this through hard work. Probably future Vegeta didn't achieve the transformation before he fucked Bulma, because Goku was dead, he didn't have the motivation to transform and he didn't know that the androids were coming.

How is it a retcon? We had absolutely no fucking clue what Goku was before then, and in fact, the only clue of his origin in the series before then is when Oolong says maybe he's some kind of space alien. The Terminator says that too but I think it might have been anime only.

Kid Trunks and Goten are around 13 or 14 in DBS based on the timeline. They look like little kids though because Saiyans age slower or something.

There have been others? Who?

Yes they are both from Space Australia.

>Bonyu
Not before I Bonyu first

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That was confirmed because of S-cell bullshit.

How do I become "a chad"?

So she's gonna talk like a shiela then?

dilate and have sex

Do you guys think Cheelai is a Brench

>make literally any vaguely human shaped character
>put tits on it
>Yea Forums fucking loses their minds and wont stop talking about it for days
so this is how str*ightoid minds work

There is a datamine going on of at least 4 new characters coming up after Gogeta and Super Broly. Is weird that's only four, but I guess it goes along with each season losing two characters each, and maybe saving some for Fighterz 2 eventually (Thought I think that if they want to continue this franchise in the future, they may need to tap into the Heroes/Xenoverse canon eventually, if they want to get more characters to add)

Still, assuming we are getting at least 4 characters, I think Kefla is almost a sure thing, with how much demand she gets every single time (from the base roster, to both seasons so far), she also covers for both Saiyan girls, and leave them both a separate characters for the possible sequels. From there... I also think a GT villain is almost a sure thing, to make for a rival to GT Goku, though I couldn't say if they would pick Baby or Omega Shenron for that, it's a matter of taste there, but I would bet for Omega Shenron personally.

The last two are anyone's guess. If it's for movies, I would think Bojack it's next in the pipeline, over Tapion, Slug Garlick Jr and Turles. Now, I guess from missing Z characters, Raditz is the one with most demand, I would preffer a Gero/19 tag team, or Dabura with Babidi's assist, even Zarbon, but I can't deny Radtiz popularity here. Super Buu is another option, but again, Raditz is the popular one here, and Super Buu may be more of a sequel character here.

As for more Gokus... I think UI Goku won the race to SSJ4 Goku on this one. Again, there is a lot of characters they may be saving up for sequels, but there are still in time to get some sell of the UI hype, even if it's already kind of old news at this point.

Some pipedreams of mine would be King Piccolo, Jacco or Bulma in an ironman suit, but again, we seem to be up for a short final season, so I doubt we get weird picks like Videl this time.

Welcome to anime, newfag

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He is way too perfect. That guy will be a traitor. Dont trust in the ones with a Zamasu looking face

Anyways, Jaco is a much more memorable character, and that guy could assist Jaco like 18&17 or Videl&Saiyaman

Bad Enddddd~

Her untransformed state is cuter
She should learn to accept herself for who she is!

I love the belly but the hair is sssssooooooo dumb.

It’s literally just Vados’ hair

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More than I was expecting, but not that many worth nothing.
Also, I always forget that Space France and Space Australia share planet in the Dragon Ball expanded universe.

dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Brench-seijin

>for a cultural touchstone JRPG
Dragon Quest or Chrono Trigger? And dont reply with "yes"

Akuman is a warrior of justice, the more evil his opponent is, the stronger he gets.
>that what if story in BT3 where he defeats both Frieza and Cooler

Yeah, the S-cell BS is the argument for both the U6 Saiyan, and kid Gotens and Trunks, but with that said, in defense of the U6 Saiyans, we can at least assume that without the legend of the super Saiyan, none of them never tried, but beign defender of justice, without an evil tyrant keeping their potential low, they are naturally strong on their base form, so with the right motivation, getting to SS may be as easy for them as it was for Goten and Trunks... they just didn't knew they could.

It's still BS, but hardly the worst we have seen on the DB writing.

At least it's not Nintendo.
Every time a female character from a Nintendo IP is revealed, toddlers pool their autism bucks together and commission ungodly amounts of porn.

... I hate to ask this, but I have to. Akuman vs Jiren?

Post your dragon ball waifu and, if separate, your dragon ball pornfu. Mine is Bulma’s mom or Chichi when drawn by Funsexydragonball

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... I hate that Super Broly not only made me care for her, but that whole bit of "please don't forget us!" was necesary? Because we all know the little shit DID forget them! I didn't need Dragon fucking Ball to break my heart like that.

I know I am asking much, but I really want to believe that the would "call me Kakaroth" at the end, means Goku is interested of exploring his Saiyans roots, and my have an encounter with his parents on the after life somehow. I don't care which retcon they have to do, I am used to that shit by now!

Bardock and Gine most likely had their souls processed and reincarnated

Jiren, at his core, only wishes to protect people because of what happened to him. He's cold, rude, and to an extent self-absorbed, but he helps people because he thinks it's the right thing to do. Between that and just being straight up stronk as fuck, he could tank the Devilmite beam, although it would definitely harm him.

peppermints

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is she american

Space Australian

That's what I mean kind I don't care what kind of retcon they need, either time travel again, or the Super Dragon Balls (which, in theory they both work, without being a retcon), but it's just cruel leave things like that!

I do get that in the current canon, everything about the after life outside of hell (which has changed a lot in the current canon) it's completely unknown besides reincarnation being a thing, and may need a retcon for them to meet there... though Heaven is a thing in the manga too! Dabura's "redemtion arc" may have been Anime only, but he was send to heaven in the manga too!

Or Space France... it could be either one, if this game takes the movies continuity as part of it's side quests.

>5 hours too late to reply to the basest post in the thread
But it hurts
When will they bring her back?

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Basically somewhere near Space Europe aka the Brench System

For one, he doesn't draw for DBZ anymore. He'll do a few character designs but that's it. Two, he isn't writing shit. He comes up with a basic plot and then Toei does whatever the fuck they want according to that, with maybe Toriyama giving some input here and there. Three, he isn't forced to do any of this shit. Lots of original creators have nothing to do with their still ongoing series, Toriyama still being apart of the process is entirely because he wants to be. In fact he wasn't apart of it for a long time, never forget that he said the only reason he came back to working on DBZ was because of how much of a disaster Evolution was. If anything, he only came back because he didn't feel comfortable leaving his in the hands of someone else.

All it takes is the smallest bad thought. Your heart has to be 100% pure good not to die.

his biggest work*

Granted, when you have a character that somehow is stronger that "time" and even characters that are the manifestation of destruction and oblivion, I could believe the idea of Jiren tanking that... in may be BS, but I could believe it at this point. As long as it at least hurts him, I will be happy.

>As long as it at least hurts him, I will be happy.
It can't hurt him without killing him. Either it works or it doesn't.

>Bardock and Gine most likely had their souls processed and reincarnated
Bardock's soul is in purgatory, as long as he's a fan favorite he'll always return for new games and promotions, and never be allowed to rest.

She's such a low key female self-insert for Bardock fangirls. "She softened his murderous asshole heart

I believe they specifically state vegeta doesn't get in because of the atrocities he committed as friezas lackey, which would way outstrip anything piccolo did on earth.

I mean, new Bardock (Minus, Super) may not go to hell honestly, but I do agree he is far to popular to just dissapear, but again, without Hell, nor his time traveling adventures, I don't know what use the current canon could have for him besides fan services. I do wonder if there is any character interested to use the Super Dragon Balls to bring back Planet Vegeta and it's people the same way Beerus did with U6's Earth.

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And the most popular jrpg franchise and one of the best game of all time

>I do wonder if there is any character interested to use the Super Dragon Balls to bring back Planet Vegeta and it's people the same way Beerus did with U6's Earth.
They could make a pretty good plot out of that if it connects to why Beerus ordered the destruction of Planet Vegeta.

>they made best boi a nigger
it still hurts bros

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If I remember the line correctly (which, mind you, I am coming from the Latim dub, so who knows what it change) I did understand that the process to punish and then clean Vegeta's soul would very much erase all his memories, and concept of who he is, very much like what Uub is to Kid Buu (Though, he skipt the process to clean his soul at Goku's request, which would explain how he retains part of his power, even as an human).

Right now, I want to believe that Super's concept of Hell, with Frieza in that cocoon, even if it whas his own personal Hell, it's kind of symbolic of this process, with the idea being that Frieza would eventually emerge as a new being. Though I may be given the writing to much credit.

Also, funny enogh, there is a "canon" heaven in the manga, even if we never got to see it. Dabura was indeed send to heaven in the manga, because hell wouldn't have effect on him, though contrary to the anime, the manga never shows what happen to him there. Still, I wouldn't put pass Toriyama to forget, bot Piccolo's explanation of hell, nor the quick joke about Dabura and Heaven. Also, no idea how reincarnation works with Heaven involve... maybe reincarnation is suppose to be only for Evil souls, so they can truly reborn as new, good ones?

Funny thing, Beerus only order that in America. It's a localization change, in the orignal he just comments that he wanted to destroy planet Vegeta himself for how rude Saiyans were, but was to lazy to do so, and was glad Frieza did it on his own, even if he hated Frieza's guts, and wanted to destroy him now. Nobody knows why Localization made that change, maybe was an honest mistake in the translation.

But Ribrianne is her true self.

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Got any sauce to back up that claim?

i like how spopovich literally ryona'd all the character out of videl
very cool

The original japanese dub. The general idea is that Beerus was aware Frieza wanted to Destroy planet Vegeta, and he allows it cause he hates king Vegeta, but the planet is to far away for him to bother to do so, even though he also hates Frieza, and wants to destroy him eventually.

None the less, there is no mention of him giving Frieza the order to destroy the planet, and later appearances of Frieza, both in the movies and the anime, stay true to Frieza's backstory of destroying planet Vegeta on his own will, without any input of Beerus. With the Broly movie remind it us that it was a last minute decision, after gathering intel on the Super Saiyan legends.

>The general idea
It's not sauce unless you can show it.

I want to believe that if she ever returns, the events of the ToP would make her go through some training that in exchange of granting her the power to protect her universe, will also "curse" her with a new "uglier" form, Zarbon style... with the twist that this new form is actually attractive by our standards.

>母乳

How the FUCK did they get away with it, Yea Forumsros?

It's kind of late for me, and I can't find more solid sources besides the channel of a Dragon Ball youtuber called Geekdom101, but again, we are talking of the Japanese's original dub, so if you can find the movie in japanese dub, and try to translate the dialogue yourself, you will notice there is no mention of Beerus asking Frieza to destroy the planet, just that he is happy Frieza did it.

I just looked at the sub and it says he "authorized" it, meaning he may or may not have had ulterior motives.

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the filler is beyond horrible, the lows are the lowest the serie ever had, but it has some nice stuff, like when the god of all delate the universe and that kameha to the face to kefla

>the filler is beyond horrible
If by filler you mean the movie recap episodes, then I agree they're godawful. But stuff like the baseball episode were great.

yea the movie recap, that fucking pink monster, that movie actor that transform into a monster... etc.

> But stuff like the baseball episode were great.
everyone knows that slice of life dragon ball is best dragon ball.
that baseball episode is up there with goku and picolo driving lessons

Design would be 100x better if she was barefooted, prove me wrong

Sayians tend to get stronger being around each other.
Goku and Vegeta got together and both starting skyrocketing in power from then on while Gohan was essentially dragged along by Goku and Piccolo.
Goten and Trunks benefited from growing up around Vegeta and Gohan and Piccolo and being raised so close to each other.

Main drawback for human/sayian hybrids are they lack the love of fighting and getting stronger like pure blood sayians

I don't think he minds that much. He just didn't want to continue drawing the manga every single week. Now it's a monthly series and he just gets his bitch boy to do the entire thing.

Her name means breast milk

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>tfw jobbed to krillin's shoe
brehs

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I think I got it from like the Sams Club discount bin. Granted the game I bought prior to that one from the same bin was Megaman BN 3, so I had high expectations for that bin.

How so? And he needs to be chubbier.

Would you rather have Chi Chi or Bulma as a wife?

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I'd rather frieza.

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I need a saiyan gf. Why do these things not exist in real life? It's like God hates us.

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I miss Toriyama's old artstyle :(

>Dark Queen Ribrianne
I'd be down for that.

I am all sorts of confused right now.

>Vegeta is titsman
>Goku and his spawn are assman
Vegeta just keeps failing in every possible way.

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Fat girls a worst

someone post the micro bikini berserker kale

I want her Bonyu.

I got this.

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>Ginyu Force where each character is colour-coded and performs a ridiculous pose as a parody of Super Sentai
>Sixth member is just rule 63 inflation fetish fuel of an existing member
No. No no no no no no no. That's wrong.

It should have been a pink character because Ginyu already have red, purple, blue, green and orange. This is just lazy.

Araki says Toriyama is the greatest cartoonist of all time

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I wouldn't say the greatest, but he's pretty damn close. Honestly Tezuka was generally better at it.

eh good enough thank ya

literally biggest tits in anime history.

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From Araki's book

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You know, i've been thinking about the Freeza Saga.

When they asked to revive everyone who died from Freeza's hands, could this also of revived Universe 7's Sayians?
Even if it was for like 50 seconds (since the planet is gone) before dying again.

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>Ctrl+f architect
>No matches
>Ctrl+f Pierce
>No matches
Apply yourselves, faggots

not fat enough
4/10

They have been though

Based

>y'all saiyan niggas are cray-cray

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The only way this Kakarot game would be worth playing is if they added in a bunch of new stuff and "what ifs"

That seems to be the route their going with this though. The canon stuff is the "main story" while all the side content would be the filler episodes and brand new stuff.

>how do we design a character that will STOP people from buying the game?
>Toriyama, any ideas?
>I've got just the thing!

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BROSNAN, WHAT DOES THE SCALE SAY ABOUT HER CALORIE INTAKE?

I want to get smushed by them

It's a shame there's so few art of her and nu broly

Me too

He's going to job again right ?

This has been surpased with Raditz. Fuck, Krillin is a better design than that garbage.

Imagine the puff-puffs

I know how to kill Jiren
Have goku and vegta fuse into Gogeta, then SSB Gogeta and Full Power SS Broly struggle to lift her up by combining their strength in order to drop her on Jiren. The resulting impact would cause a small black hole to be formed and Universe 11 would be no more but itd be worth it.

But she just made this game a day 1 buy for me.

>Good. Dragon ball put toriyama on the map.
He was insanely famous when he drew Dr.Slum, you disgusting normalfag. He was so rich back then, that he could have retired and lived the rest of his life on royalties alone.

While that is true, Dragon Ball is indeed what made him well known internationally, at least outside of Asia.

RUN YAMCHA

Slump made him a local star. Dragon Ball made him a world icon.

I am curious if they will add the movies as sidequest, some old DBZ rpgs use to do that.

I am still not sure if this games would go pass the Cell games or not, but in anycase, both Broly and Janemba make for some cool secret Final Bosses on paper. Same with Beerus as an epilogue boss, but again, I am still not sure if there is more content planed after Cell.

All my respects to Dr. Slum, but Arale wasn't part of the "anime revolution" on the late 90s early 2000s. We can argue about the over all quality of Dragon Ball all the day, but it's impact in popular media is not up for debate.

>Japan makes a tumblrette
>She looks kinda nice
Japan how the fuck do you do it?

Helloooooo Nurse.

I never even thought of that, but yeah that would be pretty sick. If we do get it though we'll probably just get the new Broly, which isn't too big of a deal, personally.

I think they were kind os specifict in regards being the victims of Namek, other wise who knows how many planets would have been reborn besides planet Vegeta. There is also the old time limit (a year I think) o resurrect someone, but that seem to have been ret con a log time ago.

>Broly
which one?

first boner

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I guess it might depend on wether they go with Super content or not.

I only watched DB and Z when I was a kid.
How old is Goku now?
How much time has passed in universe since the original Dragon Ball?

Meh, it's just barely reaching 8999...

>new Broly
its actually big deal
if nuBroly meet goku, its just another Saiyan meeting each other
nuBroly have vendetta to Bejitta, and Bejitta only get redempted after Z

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For me, it's Erasa

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fuck off

Those hi-leg space warrior outfits are practition taste

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die

rude girl

Who?

>Toriyama dabbing on waifufags
Based

>despite just being a good character design
It's not tho. Wild Guns is a weird robo western, but the OG characters looked more western than steampunk/robot sci fi.
This bitch doesn't look western at all. They should've made her an olde tyme maid or something. I don't like the fucking dog either. even the choice of breed is bad.

Honestly, I am fine with both Brolys, and I think both of them still work for Videogames. Of course, Xenoverse, Heroes and such work with all the canons at the same time, and Fighthez doesn't seem to care with having both. I think most fan don't mind either.

For RPGs and Adventure games like this one (which there aren't that many), I guess the canon they choice from is more important, but even those can have both Brolys, if OG Broly (Or even both of them) are side, optional quests, almost what ifs. After all, all the old Movie villains were What Ifs to begins with, so there isn't much of a problem.

If this game truly will cover just until the Cell games, and not much else, I think OG Broly would be a perfect Secret Boss, but I surely would't mind seeing more of the Battle with new Broly in the future.

Is mostly Namco, they seem to do in each new game from a while now, even before FightheZ with 21 (Towa is underrated among the general fandom), but still, Toriyama doesn't mind. His problem is writing women, not drawing them. I still think he has always have, and still have, to tier female character designs.

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