Worse than Azura. Fight me Edeltards

Worse than Azura. Fight me Edeltards.

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Azura is a very special type of character
The best way to interpret her is to just imagine her fucking hating everyone and will back Corrin to insure that she can kill at least one royal family and fuck over Anankos.
It sucks though because she has one of my favorite fates supports with Laslow

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Edelgard was actually entertaining as an antagonist while Azura was played completely straight and boring.

she did nothing wrong
she did everything correct
lions seething and deers coping

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She doesn't really say that, right? I'm still before timeskip

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I think she says it too Dimitri and not Byleth if that's what's bothering you.

Ok, good to know. Yeah, that's what I meant.

I'M GONNA SING IT

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Azura's a pretty cool daedra desu

>Right now, your favorite character is...? 1. Dimitri (32.4%) 2. Claude (22.9%) 3. Byleth (Female) (17.7%) 4. Edelgard (17%) 5. Lysithea (15.9%) 6. Byleth (Male) (14.3%) 7. Ingrid (13.6%) 8. Bernadetta (10.9%) 9. Marianne (10.5%) 10. Sylvain (9.1%)

>After finishing the game, who is your favorite character? 1. Dimitri (30.2%) 2. Claude (19.8%) 3. Lysithea (17.8%) 4. Byleth (Female) (16.6%) 5. Bernadetta (15.1%) 6. Ingrid (14.2%) 7. Edelgard (13.6%) 8. Byleth (Male) (13.0%) 9. Sylvain (11.5%) 10. Sothis (9.8%)

Why do Japanese people hate her?

She did some wrong, but it ultimately doesn't matter since her path results in the least amount of bloodshed since she doesn't become a tyrant like in the other paths.

what was she exactly, and why did she went around fucking over everyone, and for which end?

They were never able to stand strong woman who did what was needed without giving a fuck what others thought.

>Sylvain the highest rated dude that's not a lord or (you)
Based.

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She just wanted to end the war as fast as possible and by any means necessary because she knew who was really benefitting from the war.

Azura is the daughter of the kingdom of Valla, who went to Nohr as a refugee basically and her mom remarried Garon before he went crazy and no one liked the new queen or her daughter. Eventually the mom died and Azura got shit on by like everyone and eventually Corrin got kidnapped and put in top security and Hoshidans settled on kidnapping Azura for ransom and Nohr said keep her. Most of Hoshido also disliked her

>specifically the HoF portrait
Based
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>Old Yea Forums hates moralfags, religion and the government
>new Yea Forums wants to kneel down and suck noble cock while giving away their freedom to some pathetic god because "Edelgard is a meanie"
This board really has become Reddit.

It's funny 'cause during my first playthrough, the shit she was saying about using the goddess for monetary gain, I already assumed the church was doing anyway

Cause y'know, it's a church and this was a medieval setting

Because she's an unlikeable cunt

Nah. Edelgard isn't a bad character, she's actually a fantastic villain who
>Has an obsessed fanbase who will white knight for her till the universe ends.
>Has a poorly written route that tries to justify her insanity.
Azura on the other hand is just straight up a dumbass who makes her game's story worse by existing.

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Except reddit sucks Edelgard off for being a strong woman who tips her fedora while destroying the church.

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I WILL HAVE HER HEAD ON A PIKE!

Now this is a sensible political stance I can get behind.

>*WUB WUB WUB* intensifying in the distance

Can you even *tip* when the actual creator goddess and her children are actually real?

>Edelgard gives them exactly what they want on her route.
Based retarded emperor.

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Not going to lie, at first I felt that nintendo was late to the trap music and dubstep party then "Tearing Through Heaven" comes on.

Why WAS Dimitri so obsessed with her? I know he saw her as a kind of sister figure since she is technically his step sister but they only spent a little time together as kids, plus some of the support conversations imply he had deeper feelings for her than that.

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To explain. The spear is a long phallic object, a penis stand in, an axe cuts spears. Edelgard represents the emasculation he feels and he must over come this by putting her head on his spear.

He wanted some fuck

dumb boar thought she was involved in the druscur massacre even though she was a child at the time

Dimitri is literally a handsome incel.

Because he was in love with her despite their "family" bond; and from what i understand the Flame Emperor was the one figure responsible for the tragedy of Duscur. So when Dimitri saw the girl he cherished most also turning out to be the evil he always wanted to get revenge on; he snapped.

>hey girl, you're looking fine today
>hands her a knife

No he just judged her to be guilty by association because she's a dubstep cult enabler. And he's right on that, they gained a foothold on the surface only thanks to her being a dumbo.

So was Azura just a total bitch even as a child or does everybody hate her just cause. Like a reverse of everybody loving Corrin, everybody just hates her unconditionally?

To his defense it was a very symbolic thing in his country, you know with his ancestor raising the sword against tyranny and establishing his kingdom of chivalry.

She's basically a reverse Corrin hated for no reason other than plot demand.

Basically Hoshido hates her because she’s from Nohr, and Nohr hates her because everyone loved the first queen
>Xander: Azura? Can it be...our kidnapped sister?
>Azura: You remember me?
>Xander: Of course. Though not as much as I would have liked, we met a handful of times. I especially remember how horribly the other Nohrians treated you back then...
>Corrin: They did? But why?
>Xander: Azura is the child of Father's second wife, the late Queen Arete. When they married, many Nohrians were still distraught over my mother's death. Those who loved Queen Katerina were not happy about Queen Arete or her daughter. Camilla and I...and later Leo...were told not to associate with Azura because of this. I suppose Father wanted to protect the strength of his legacy or some nonsense. However, we always wished we could be close with her, as siblings should be. I can't tell you how happy I am to have you here with us Azura.

Meant for But yes she’s supposed to be reverse Corrin in this situation. She get supports with every Royal bar Camilla where they get along.

I mean there's literally hundreds of hours of Ghost in the Shell that prove you wrong.

The dubsteppers had already hat a foothold, hell they were the ones that replaced her Uncle to get that sweet cunny.

Because she's a stupid bitch.

Offing a king isn't the same as having a puppet that goes to war with the whole continent.

Don't bring the truth into this. Nu/v/ can't handle it.

The actual story is even more retarded than this

This just proves how Nohr was a better family in general than Hoshido. Hoshido believed you needed to side with them solely due to blood relations and even they weren't super nice to Azura whereas Nohr outright went "We know you're not our blood but we still want to think of you and treat you as a real sibling.". Nohr really was the better family.

BE Edelgard and non-BE Edelgard are two different characters.

This applies for basically every lord. Arguing over who was right is dumb, in their own routes they are all right. It's just a matter of which one had better writing.

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>Edelgard in BE route is obsessed with you like a lovesick fangirl
>Edelgard in every other route is still obsessed and outright calls out the other lords on how she's mad they get Byleth's help and she doesn't
Do you get to reject her at all on Black Eagles route? I want to play it and just spend every waking moment being mean to her.

Yeah but the whole "not blood related" thing makes the girls much less appealing.

It’s honestly impressive how much better Nohr looks when compared against Hoshido.
Azura is basically shunned by everyone not named Sakura while Xander who always knew Corrin wasn’t family and still accepted them and stuck out his neck for them whenever he could.

You can cuck her hard by siding with Rhea.

>Ferdinand/Lorenz support chain

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Well the point is that they're already the Deep State in Adrestia and Faerghus. It was just that Edelgard made a good puppet to break Seiros.

Yeah Claude for instance is kind of a dumbass outside of the GD route who basically was shoehorned in because he needed to be

>being a fedora tipper
>not peak reddit

No that's Sylvain, he's literally a chad incel

>bets his whole army's life to the chance that Byleth would manage to heal Dimitri in time
he was a retard outside of his route

Edelgard being obsessed with Byleth in GD is ooc. It makes sense in church, but not GD.

Dimitri is more right in BE route than his own, though. In BL, he becomes a psychopath who is obsessed with killing his enemies, no matter the cost to his friends and subjects. In BE, he's a decent ruler who is trying to do his best against a superior foe who seems to be attacking his people for no good reason.

How was he dumb in BE? He did the right thing in going into a decisive battle with Edelgard and not cause the Alliance to get involved in a devastating and bigger war.

>In BE, he's a decent ruler who is trying to do his best against a superior foe
In BE he's completely blind by rage and keeps on fighting a fight that he won't win solely because of his personal spite of Edelgard. He doesn't care that the kingdom is being consumed by the war. He wants to keep on going even though it's all over.
It's like if the Japanese kept fighting the war regardless of the nukes instead of surrendering and ensuring the safety of their citizens.

Reddit loves Edel tho’

The game never treats Edelgard as a hero, that alone puts her over Azura.

Why would the two most popular houses with the most popular lords cope and/or seethe.

Edelgard is well written as a villain, albeit Arvis does the same archetype better. The only problem is that they tried to make her morally gray in her route, causing all of her obsessive Huberts (orbiters) to be the most fucking obnoxious and delusional fanbase out there.
I really wish they just cut Crimson Flower as a route and instead fleshed her out more as a villain in the other 3.

Because whoever was in the flame emporers outfit was responsible for the tragedy of Duscur. He and Edelgard liked each other as kids and so it hurts extra when he sees her in that outfit. He already has severe PTSD and depression from that and just kinda loses it and wont listen to reason anymore or think it through. This could have calmed down a bit if Edelgard didn't declare war against the realm. When he returns home he is betrayed, arrested and tortured before Dedue rescues him. He is then left alone for five years waging a one man war against Edelgards army. Edelgard also puts/leaves someone in charge of Fhaerghus who fucking destroys the parts of the realm they are in charge off.

Basically he fucking loses it in a craze of PTSD and just keeps tumbling down.

pure kino

Why are you treating all routes as if they're the same or that they should merge together into one?
They're different routes for a reason. They're different stories with different characters and different motivations.
It's fucking retarded to compare BL Edelgard to BE Edelgard because they're not the same character at all. Nor is BE Dimitri with BL Dimitri, or BL Claude with GD Claude.

Want to complain about BL Edelgard? Go ahead, just don't treat her like she's the same character in BE.

Just finished Golden Deer route, what happened to Rhea and Dedue? It didn't say anything about them

Who is Elise's mom then?

they ded

What will her moveset in Smash be like? And more importantly, will they have the balls to add Hector as her echo fighter?

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They get an ending tho’

I literally just got to the prompt to choose the house to go with. Who should I go with, considering I'm an indecisive retard?

depends on weather or not she gets her magic honestly, if she gets spells he's fucked, if her keeps to axe play there's a fair chance they might bother with him

>Rhea
dies of her injuries
>Dedue
One of the random npcs at the monastery will mention that he decapitated Edelgard's corpse, took her head with him, and vanished to god knows where.
I like to think it's a repeat of his paired ending with Dimitri, he took the head to his grave and spent the rest of his life guarding said grave.

I wouldn't say worse than Azura, or even worst lord. She's just garbage that wasn't properly handled. If, instead of doing this shit where she's kind of the villain, they made her full on the villain, she'd be way better.

Honestly, probably just standard FE but on a true heavyweight.

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Farewell King of Delusion

Considering she's led to much more interesting discussion than Boringzura, that alone makes her better.

Is Dimitri the final boss of Edelgard's route? I'm yet to play it, but I figured it would be Rhea in her Immaculate One form.

>everyone hated Fates for making the kingdoms black and white good vs evil
>everyone in 3H is morally grey, including Edelgard
>"they should have made her full on the villain"
You fags don't know what you want

I think the reason it's hated in Fates is because siding with the villain still had you ultimately trying to stop them.

Moveset uses axe for smash attacks and fist gauntlets for tilts and stuff. Recovery summons a random wyvern to lift her back up to the stage before disappearing
Make down special literally anything but a counter. Maybe make it the Smash combat art from 3H? A more powerful but laggier axe attack that has a chance to crit, not like Hero RNG and closer to something like G&W's Judge move.

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he's not, you still fight rhea after him

>everyone in 3H is morally grey
this is your brain on too much Edeltard

Huh, okay then

>I figured it would be Rhea in her Immaculate One form.
and you are right

Thank god, that's actually so fucking cool. I'm nearly done with the Church route and am dreading starting Edelgard's route because I'm a brainlet and missed the requirement, so I have to redo the first 11 chapters AGAIN

Dimitri is more likely to be in Smash than Edelgard according to FE3H's popularity polls.

How many chapters is each route?

You need support c+ with El and you should try talking to her every month

Cyril is shit. The most boring waste of a support. I got him on GD because I thought he'd finally have an interesting support with Claude.
I was wrong.

I like Dimitri and Claude in all three routes though.

That'd be pretty based too, he's my favorite of the lords. Ephraim echo

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Her support with Arthur is kino too, but Arthur doesn't have a single bad support anyway.

22 and 18 for one of the routes

Japan has shit tastes.
>Orochi dead last despite being the best Hoshidan girl

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Yeah I know the requirement now, but I rarely if ever talk to my students each month.

I mean, Rhea's dead on every route except Blue Lions and for those who S-Support her in Church, isn't she? The only difference is that the Agarthans outlive her for a bit on Black Eagles, but get rekt in every route anyway.

>Implying her recovery isn't her plot convenient teleport.

Dimitri wanted that damn head, he's going to get a damn head.

She gets Hubert to teleport her back onto the stage

>just let me invade your kingdom bro
that's you. difference here is that japan had fair warning that they were going to be completely fucked up and just let it happen

because theyre FUCKING DEAD

>completely missing the point
Claude didn't surrender. He fought only the necessary battles and ensured the safety of the Alliance by not engaging it into a pointless and bigger war. Dimitri didn't. He was so self-centered about killing Edelgard in his lust for revenge that he didn't care about engulfing the Kingdom in a bigger conflict than necessary.

That's the difference, retard

>just let evil win bro
dmitri actually has some morals and is willing to put himself on the line to defeat the obvious evil about to take over the continent instead of just giving up

How is what Dimitri did wrong though? He disagrees with Edelgard and thinks she will doom them all. He isn't just going to roll over and let invading forces take over his kingdom and destroy his peoples lives. He is kinda right too since she fucking ruins the kingdom in BL.

>morals
Willing to set your entire nation on fire just because you hate the opposing leader is not having morals.
Morals is looking out after your citizens and country, not sending your men to die in war because of your personal vendetta.

Dimitri's literally mad in BE.

Reddit loves edelgard because she’s a dyke who smashes le toxic society

>WHY MUST YOU RECONQUER?

He is pre-final boss. Aka boss before the final boss. Yes. BE route unironically ends after fucking Rhea on a note:
>Hey gang. Lets go fuck up those who slither in the dark.
>IS: Sorry. No such thing for you. This is da end. Slithers will be dealt off-screen in epilogue because LOL, buy DLC, goyim.

They literally ran out of time and money I’m assuming?

Popularity polls didn’t stop Corrin. Enjoy your Byleth.

Edelgard is literally the worst case scenario for fodlan. She doesn’t deal with the slitherers (see her end card being the only ones showing them) and creates an even more corruptible system than the church, with one supreme leader being the one to choose the heads of society. Commoners can’t do jack shit to decide who governs them

we dont know, they have yet to comment on the length issue

He didn't do wrong in fighting back. He was in all his right.
He did wrong in not giving up when the battle was already lost. He kept sacrificing lives to fulfill his selfish revenge against Edelgard, and he did not care about destroying his own nation if it meant killing Edelgard.
THAT'S what he did wrong. Being a stubborn, blinded raging ape who had lost all senses.

I mean, whip swords kinda cool, I guess

That was Rhea though, and the only reason she went mad is because Edelgard went full retard. Dmitri had literally nobody else to turn to at this point so he just went with the lesser evil if it meant being able to stop Edelgard.

BE ending ends with prosperity in Fódlan (just like all other routes) and the slithers were dealt with offscreen as ending cards prove.
Stop trying to make up your fanfiction. The game ends in what the game says it ends.

She went mad because Edelgard exposed all her bullshit and kicked her out of the monastery.
She destroyed the fake church she set up on a basis of lies, deception and manipulation.

Prosperity at the cost of fucking over everybody else in the war when there was absolutely no need to do so as seen in every other ending. Edelgard is a fucking idiot.

Please only post canon, not your fanfiction. I know it’s frustrating to do so.

Eselgard creates objectively the most corruptible system in Fodlan’s history. Edelgard’s end card is the only one to prominently feature the slitherers. I’m sorry this upsets you.

>Edelgard appears on screen
>"Edelgard slithers into Sma.."
>gets backstabed
>"Dimitri stabs the competition"

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He would be so broken

Have you played any routes besides Edelgard's? Rhea was already planning to step down and let you take charge since she knew it was only a matter of time before she fucked everything up. Siding with Edelgard means she lost her successor and basically all her plans went out the window.

Just like How Leo and Takumi got into Smash because they were winning polls back when Fates was fresh, right?

I like how people actually have to pretend that it’s actually possible for a violent imperialist warmonger state conquering two sovereign nations actually leads to peace and not 1) endless insurrections or 2) brutal authoritarianism.

>fake church
Still better then the true history of a human puppet and his band of town rapists killing a benevolent goddess that gave live to the whole world just to make sparkly swords.

What was he supposed to fucking do though user? He can't fuck off like Claude does, he and everyone else don't have the best prospects for survival even if they do surrender.

>Animations more brutal than Ridley
>Lucario on steroids, gets stronger the more pain he bears
>above 100% he drops the lance and turns into punching mad Dimitri like the Flame emperor scene
make it happen Sakurai

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>a basis of lies, deception and manipulation.
That is the foundation of edelgard’s new empire should she win. She gets history wrong and outright lies about certain things like blaming the church for the slitherer nuke.

>multiple threads a day of Yea Forums seething over her
based

Not really, since many real life religions are founded on the idea that man is inherently a sinner

>Eselgard creates objectively the most corruptible system in Fodlan’s history
Nice fanfiction.
Where in the game is this said or stated?

Oh, it's just your made up bullshit? Okay then.

It’s explicitly stated when Edelgard alone chooses her successor.

You need to calm down, I have a feeling you routinely lose arguments.

Sure thing. If popularity polls meant shit then pic-related and Camilla would be in instead of C*rrin.

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>Not really
If you played the game you would know that the church stabilized a continent that was drowning in blood. Rhea literally rehabilitated the descendants of thugs into a caste sworn to uphold peace and morality.

Demographic of the magazine this comes from is primarily female.

how do you explain koreans?

>chooses a successor for an empire
>CORRUPT!!!

Jesus christ must you get mad when shit doesn't fit your headcanon narrative?

This just shows that you don't know how Sakurai mind works. He gives no shit what you like. But what he likes. If anyone from 3H is going to make into Smash, it will be Shitleth.

What the fuck are you on about, that’s not what I’m saying at all? Edelgard is a piece of shit in all four routes and BE does a horrible job trying to make her seem like a hero. Her motives don’t budge at all throughout the entire game, that’s even part of her character. They’re all the same characters who find themselves in different scenarios each route, and my feelings on all of them remain the same throughout all routes. They develop differently because of the situations they find themselves in, not because they’re entirely different characters.

Comparing a character with themselves in a different situation is completely fair.

I want to have sex with Ashe

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>Rhea literally rehabilitated the descendants of thugs into a caste sworn to uphold peace and morality.

I agree with this part. Solely for the fact that it changes nothing. If Rhea didn’t lie, the people with relics and crest weapons are going to rule society anyways, because they are the most fit to.

Which is why edelgard’s entire motivation is idiotic. Disparity between ability creates hierarchies, the gap between bloodlines with crests and without would still fucking exist.

>Blank slate of a character is considered the best girl
Can ANYTHING redeem Fates?

Never played it what's wrong with Fates?

Is your name Lenato? No? Then, fuck off.

Dimitri would be fucking great in Smash, particularly because of his lance and the crazy acrobatics he does in his Great Lord animations.

Byleth would be fine I suppose, if only because of the Sword of the Creator also being a whip.

Why are you so upset user? So upset that you choose to assert that giving one singular person to dictate who rules society is somehow not prone to corruption. Take a breath.

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Everything besides the music.

She did a lot of things wrong, (until she somehow got molepilled during the BE epilogue and apparently kills them all offscreen) but there's a difference between doing it wrong because you're a retard and doing it wrong because you're not in a position where it's possible to learn the truth or trust anyone claiming to about it. She made some breddy big assumptions based on incomplete knowledge she had no way of verifying, that they were all wrong isn't surprising

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Edelgard is an antagonist of 3 of the 4 routes so the fact that she makes you seethe so hard means she's doing her job. Azura is just poorly written garbage like all of Fates.

That last line is funny as fuck, thanks user

Does anyone feel like every route outside of Blue Lions kinda got shafted?
>Edelgard deals with the Dubsteppers off-screen and has less chapters
>Church and Golden Deer are only slightly different

Edelgard is only tangentially related to the people who defend who only playing one route

also this

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Not really. It's Felix. When asked on Japanese's biggest blog who was their favorite male/female character. Females picked:
>1. Dimitri
>2. Felix
>3. Claude
>4. Lorenz
>5. Sylvain
Gook poll for males is kinda similar to it as well.

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Edelgard now follows in the tradition of other female protagonists in the series where a vocal minority condenses any and all character and nuance they might have had into a single buzzword.

Behold the Grand History of Female Protagonist:

Celica is an idiot

Lyn is boring

Eirika is stupid

Micaiah is a Mary Sue

Lucina is boring

And now finally:

Edelgard is a monster
Congratulations Edelgard you've made it into the big leagues! Forget about nuanced writing or morally grey characters. Nah, senpai let's go back to the good old days where I didn't have to think about complex motivations, how environments and the situational context of their time shape characters as well as their actions, and how my own biases and privileges prevent me from relating and empathizing with certain characters.

If you can't act with 100% logic and complete knowledge that you shouldn't have 100% of the time you're objectively a bad character.

Not him, but how do you know what the current fads on r*ddit are if it and the >people who use it are to be avoided at all costs?

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get your shitty tumblr pasta out of here

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This feels like a reddit post.

Every other ending only came to be BECAUSE Edelgard started the war. Her route just ends it faster so there's less deaths overall

Okay dipshit, but the conversation is about the character. Jesus fucking Christ I hate you fucking mouthbreathing cocksuckers that feel the need to turn everything into a us versus them pissing contest to sate your baby dick syndrome.

One google search tells me that it is a reddit post.

>crossposting from your tumblr
disgusting

because he wanted to mount her good

>if you fight your enemies they win

Ashe is for Ingrid

School shooter alert

>Implying Fire Emblem has any actually well written characters to begin with
You're playing these games for the wrong reason

I'm honestly amused that said Lorenz is popular among Eastern girls. Mainly becuase Western chicks don't dig him. Then again, twitter whales don't dig anything that isn't "person of color." Gotta score those brownie points.

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People are seething because in the end she was right about her motives, but did things the wrong way in non BE routes.
Also they keep seething because BE ended up being the route with the least conflict and violence, and it ended in prosperity anyway.

People just can't deal with the fact things had to be done for the greater good.

>Celica is an idiot
>Lyn is boring
>Eirika is stupid
>Micaiah is a Mary Sue
>Lucina is boring
>Edelgard is a monster
How are any of those wrong?

>Didn't even make it to Top 3
Lmao

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>edel’s route is the shortest and least fleshed out
>she ended it the quickest, she’s in the right!
Edeltards everybody

Edeltards have to assume war was the only option to deal with the church to be right. She may have had the least bloodshed, but if she never started a war, there would be none. Pretty simple concept. She didn't try to get the other houses on her side either. No one had the perfect or best solution.

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It feels like Edelgard's route was an Elsa situation.

She did in gook one. She is 2nd most popular female, after albino gremlin, again.

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>muh je-

uhh sorry i mean
>muh dragons

Lorenz and Ferdinand's supports were a thing of true class. I could feel my world becoming more noble with each line.

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We get it, you can’t get laid and hate women.

The only reason anybody died at all is because Edelgard started the war. What's your point?

It had nothing to do with chapter count. It's about what she does.
Claude backs off and saves the Alliance from a major war after he's defeated.
Dimitri is slayed before he can further sink the kingdom into the flames of a bigger war
Rhea is rightfully executed after setting up the capital on fire.

Edelgard is a sociopath waifu. What did you faggots exactly expect?

Yes, she cares for you and has a lot of feelings about the MC. Yes, she is completely inappropriate about all decisions she takes. Those two facts aren't mutually exclusive.

>So desperate to virtue signal he'll grasp on to fucking FIRE EMBLEM characters of all people as if they're the paramount of writing
lol

The only one I'd have any kind of contention with is Lyn (and MAYBE Eirika). Lyn is definitely boring but so is Eliwood and most other lords in the series. The implication here is that Lyn is more boring than the average FE protagonist and that is not true.

Eirika is more emotional/naive/optimistic than stupid but that's a bit of a nitpick so I don't have as much of a hard disagreement here as I do with Lyn.

Them having hatesex because Azura teleports into the room and starts singing when they're about to kill each other is going to be the dlc route isn't it...

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Are you unironically trying to disapprove any of these? Are you trying to say that Lucina wasn't as interesting as bland wall? That Celica actually had a working brain? Really?

I don't get why people say this you kill TWSITD after the war.

SIX FINGERS

>Yes, she cares for you and has a lot of feelings about the MC
And not even this, as Dimitri and Claude care far more for the MC than Edelgard does.

Why do you only criticize female lords?

Dimitri is hot and Edelgard is not. He'd still probably be an even more beautiful than her if he was a girl.

If she hadn't started the war, the church and Rhea would have remained in control, the corrupt nobility, and the slithers undealt with and causing trouble.
Not to mention Rhea would have accomplished her plan of reviving Sothis inside Byleth's body and possibly overwrite their existence.

ENOUGH TO JEW THE WORLD

>more beautiful than her
Not difficult to accomplish when half of the cast make her look ugly in comparison

I really hope her supports get better because she is such a turbo bitch right now. I don't even like Ignatz that much but she was just plain mean there.

I liked Edelgard's path but it a little too short. I can get not having the first chapter but it really need 1-2 more chapters to flesh it out. Maybe add another twist, show some dirty shit the church was doing. It did a decent job of making her more sympathetic and seem more human (mostly her getting embarrassed for linking you instead of being a strong independent emperor who don't need no professor). Didn't play Fates cause I wasn't going to waste money of Pokemon FE Edition. From what people have said I'm sure I made the right choice.

>even more beautiful than her if he was a girl
Not exactly difficult. Dorothea makes her pale in comparison

Yes. user. Homosexuality for Dimitri on Yea Forums is well known thing. No need to try and be special snowflake about it.

Under Lady Edelgard's command,
Delet this at once

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All characters are written like shit in this series. Stop acting like IS has ever written good characters

People would've died anyway. The slithers and the church were experimenting on people regardless. And the slithers were controlling the empire from behind the scenes anyway; if Edelgard didn't throw the continent into chaos, it's likely nothing would've changed anytime soon since the slithers didn't get opportunistic and try to wipe out their enemies openly until the middle of the war (and this is the case in every route where they become a factor).

Could there have been a different approach taken? Possibly. But none of the people Edelgard surrounded herself with could just be trusted outright. That's not realistic when heresy and open rebellion is punished exclusively by death and when your family line was basically stripped of the majority of its power by the prime minister and his slither friends until you actively started working with them yourself.

What's that user? Still trapped in the closet? Don't worry come here and I'll give you a kiss.

Hmmm

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>He'd still probably be an even more beautiful than her if he was a girl.
user, almost everyone in 3H is more beautiful than Edelgard. That isn't hard as such. There is nothing special about her looks or design compared to other girls.

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>church were experimenting on people
L-O-L Edeltard

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It only shows they didn't play BE not did Hubert's paralogue in which he literally says they're just using the slithers and Edelgard's uncle until they stop being useful to them. They eliminate them after the war is over.

She unironically looks better like that.

Isn't Edelgard shorter than Lysithea post time skip?

STOP BULLYING EL!

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>he romanced the worst student
Kek

Only end card with the dubsteppers present

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This is still assuming her war was the only solution to any of those problems, though.

Debatable. They're certainly better at demonstrating it. Edelgard is fucked up in her own ways and I believe that influences the way she expresses her care.

Ie. two other social retards are Hubert and Felix, they constantly act dismissive to you, even if your relationship with them is supposedly "progressing" (through the support links)

Hubert isn't a dubstepper you dumbass.

Dilate

I'm not the one who is lusting after not-Russian prince on every thread because I want his dick in my mouth badly like rest of Yea Forums does.

>House Leader popularity matches how many people chose them.

Neat

Edelgard believed that sacrifice is good if it's done for a noble cause. This is why she was fine going to war with the church. The war was fine if, at the end, the people would be better off. It's consistent with her character.

You're not wrong user.
>tfw Genderbent Dimitri is a tomboy who grew up to a very beautiful woman

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Just stop

And you didn't play GD, Claude deduces that and the whole party realizes that the Empire where being played. Also how the fuck does Edelgard defeat the Slithers without Rhea and Sothis without Foland being turned into a hellscape like that magma valley?

>completely ignores Rhea experimenting on Byleth and her mom
Rhetardbro...

Where are lewds about shota version of android 18 again?

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>Genderbent Dimitri is a tomboy who grew up to a very beautiful woman
I FUCKING LOVE THIS TROPE
>Still retains the tomboyness but not as prevailent

I'd say Felix is the most normal person in the entire cast, honestly. Acts like a bro you'd have irl.

Edelgard looks too tall in that picture.

>Rhea experimenting on Byleth
Except she did it on the behalf of his dying mother that wanted her to save her child. Jeralt was also a willingly supped human hence he never aged.

>anna is 31st
Does japan even know anything about their own damn series?

Unless you recruit him in BE

Samurai despise the jew tho.

*ahm*
THE reminder that everything that went wrong is actually his fault.
If he didn't give the dagger to Edelgard and told her to crave her own path no matter what the cost, then she would never survive crest experimentation because she wouldn't have a reason to keep surviving. She only kept on living because she remembered those words. Therefore, it is all his fault. He is literally the reason why Hitler-in-making survived and why she became that way. Because he told her to.

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Byleth was born fucked up because of her mother's condition as a experiment.
Rhea did not "save" Byleth. She merely carried the experiment over to the baby.

Posioning somebody and then giving them the antidote is not saving them.

Worked out for America.

Shut the fuck up Sylvain

The church didn't experiment on people. She made homunculus and tried to get her mom back but she made them. Blyeth is a result of her dying homunculus mom saying save her kid. It seems like if the experiment fails to be her mom then Serios is willing to let them live their lives how they want.

I don't get why people hate her so much. Even if you disagree with her actions you should still be able to agree that she's a well written villain (especially by FE standards). I like how she's kinda a foil to the typical FE lord, and I personally really like pragmatic characters like her. I've seen a lot of talk where people suggest that Edelgard would've been better if they go all in on making her more villainous instead of the more nuanced approach that they took with her but I honestly think the people saying that are dumb Ninos who need to be told what good and evil is instead of deciding for themselves.

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>being so autistic that you think "carve your own path" means carve up everyone that has a different view than you.
Next you'll tell me he also said she should become a slither test subject.

If you're trying to find information on something, you're way more likely to find a reddit link being one of the top google links and not this cesspool of a website. Just don't actually converse with them.

Uh yeah it's definitely not the fault of the suspicious evil molemen illuminati that did all that in the first place. She wouldn't have to survive a single thing if they didn't exist. Dummy.

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>Rhea outright says she hoped that Sothis would resurface via the crest implantation she did to you
>Said crest implantation isn't considered experimentation by you

Okay user.

Except his mother wasn't human you dumbo.

Look far left

I don't hate her I just hate the autists that meme about her being The One True Lord Who No Did Wrong. Even Dimitrifags can admit he went off the deep end in his route and needed to stop. GDchads don't even need to defend themselves.

Conquest and even Birthright play perfectly fine. Better than Three Houses even.

FEtards weren't ready for a SMT narrative.
They've been too much hooked up on the CONQUERING EMPEROR BAD! NOBLE RETAKING HIS HOMELAND GOOD generic shit that FE has been since forever.

>. She made homunculus and tried to get her mom back but she made them

Rhea's "children" and "creations" are people she shared her blood with. That's it.

Are you retarded or just pretending? It literally states in her end card that they were taken care of after the war. Edelgards route likely has less bloodshed than Dimitri's.

Don't blame him. Mommy died. Step-mommy never loved him. Daddy put Gilbert in charge of baby-sitting him. Said Gilbert put him through extreme training and made him unga. Cornelia probably molests him daily. Then there is this thing.
It's a wonder he is semi-functional at all.

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And this saved the world no matter the ending. Your welcome btw and you are free to attend the church of sothis whenever you'll stop *tipping*

That's just one of the Western Church mage dudes.

>gets frustrated when you call her pretty
>looks great in girls clothing but is always irritated about how she can't run or climb in it so fidgets with it awkwardly
>blushes profusely and freezes up in nervousness during your first kiss, but then bites your lip, giggles, and pins you down
>doesn't know how to act around other girls, but makes frens because she doesn't pull estrogen tricks behind their backs
>secretly loves bubble baths but doesn't tell you until you accidentally walk in on her

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>SMT narrative
Hope you aren't talking about SMT plots from the last decade because that would be embarrassing.

I'm pretty sure that was just Dimtri's survivor guilt and PTSD messing with his memory of what happened.

Yeah because in GD and BL they totally establish a democratic society with byleth as president. This is fact not head canon

Conquest? Yes.
Birthright was bigger joke than Awakening. I'm still not over the joke "Lunatic" mode on Birthright. Like... What the hell was meant to be Lunatic about it again? I had to re-check if I selected fucking Lunatic because I kept thinking I was playing on normal.

Oh god I need more

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>people caring about this shit when the DLC route will just be Edelgard and Rhea sucking your dick and balls

>>Edelgard deals with the Dubsteppers off-screen and has less chapters
I still don't understand why they just didn't invest a few more chapters in the BE route to finish the Dubstep Moles off. Seriously, WTH? Rhea and Dimitri are small time compared to that ancient cult conspiracy.

BL ends with a constitutional monarchy with Byleth as archbishop.
GD ends with king-archbishop Byleth.
Neither said they were going to set up a democracy anyway.

Honestly they just needed to justify why she's working with those who dubstep in the dark more and she'd be fine.

>Trailer opens with Roy, Luminary and young Link sparing
>out from the bushes m Byleth jumps out in slow mo and strikes young link, who is sent flying.
>camera pans up to byleth's face as his sword re connects itself
>character card saying "Byleth teaches you a lesson!"
>gameplay of him ensues, eventually cut to gameplay with f byleth
>back to cutscene, f byleth is about to strike a blow on Roy
>Loud CLANK
>large figure stands between them and after a bit of clashing pushes her off
>Camera goes around
>"Hector marches in!"
>Hector gameplay
>more clashing and trailer ends with Byleth and Hector running towards the other with a freeze frame when they are inches away

user...

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>GDchads don't even need to defend themselves.
Yes. Because their lord is closest thing to Mary Sue, apart from (you).

>well written villain
Meh, I feel they were too hesitant to make her full on the villain. Even at moments like right before fighting her on the GD and Church routes, you are only presented with dialogue choices that involve not wanting to fight her. While these aren't directly tied to her, persay, I really felt these hampered her as a villain. She's among the better ones in the series, though.

>Genderbent Dimitri is a tomboy who grew up to a very beautiful woman
Noice. I always loved this trope.
Dangerously close to taking Catherine's place as number one user.
Such wonderful taste in this thread

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yes?

You literally can't set -up a democracy in a land where god is real because the word of god overrides any democratic vote or institution.

>I hope the that professor doesnt find all the porn i made of them
>especially the stained ones

>ancient cult conspiracy.
Lmao they're LITERALLY one chapter in Golden Deer. Those who slither in the dark? More like those who job in the dark

If Dimitri was a girl then Yea Forums would hate her because she wouldn't have the one thing Yea Forums craves for the most: DICK.

To be fair, that's because claude is an opportunist who's playing the defensive game and seeing how shit rolls downhill.

Dimitri (haunted survivor and PTSD ridden mess who is also allied with the church and exiled from his own country for the greater part of his own path) and Edelgard (puppet leader at the start, with an implied short lifespan because of crest aids who needs the help of the slithers to do anything) don't really have the same luxury.

Like, Claude's definitely the only one who stays sane through the full story no matter what, but he also had less of a stake in the central conflict to begin with.

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>Game has classes
>Can never decide what to make my MC
f-fuck
I've got this exam seal lyin' around but fuck dude I dunno know family gee shit fuckin' willy wonkers.

I prefer BE ending for Byleth in which she just goes to live their with their mate.
With Mercedes, she moves with her to a village and runs an orphanage with her.
She also gets rid of her crest cancer in BE

Why is Ferdinand von Aegir such a chad?

>I don't get why people hate her so much
A significant part of her backstory isn't shown and you have to read about it in the library.

>LITERALLY one chapter in Golden Deer
More like they are LITERALLY YOUR MAIN ENEMY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FIRST PART OF THE GAME

I need that sauce please.
I tried looking myself and found nothing

And they all get offed in One (1) chapter.

>BE deals with them off-screen
>BL deals with them on accident without even knowing about them
>GD ends up looking like idiot because they tried to focus on them
Are there more pathetic FE villains than slithers?

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It's literally the Enlightened One or BUST my dude no other class has such good growths.

>She also gets rid of her crest cancer in BE
He does that in every route, thank Sothis for telling you, only keeps the hair.

Birthright is much better balanced than Awakening though. But more important to the subject, Birthright being better than Three Houses says more about Three Houses than it does Birthright.

i ran enlightened one the first time then draco then warmaster. draco was def my best one

I'm just looking at beginning classes even. I'm that useless.

Also do you guys deviate from your companion's starting classes much?

Dimitri is literally the vidya version of Elliot Roger. Obsesses over girl, has a fucked up past, combines these things in his head, then tries to kill her when he doesn't get his way.

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Called it btw

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>Rhea is your mother, daughter, and sister all in one
>You can fuck her
hot
You still have Jeralt tough, so not EVERY family member
unless Rhea's woman puppet actually gave birth by parthenogenesis

He tries to kill her after she tries to kill him though, I don't think any of the stacies conspired to kill Elliot before hand.

>tfw Genderbent Dimitri is a tomboy who grew up to a very beautiful woman
I think most of Ingrid's female supports are the girls telling her how pretty she is and trying to get her to wear makeup. Your fetish is already pandered to.

Edelgard is a tranny school shooter

I'd swap Leonie for Ingrid

>Birthright being better than Three Houses
But it isn't.

why did they give her a gigantic ass

not that i'm complaining

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>her unique class can’t even use magic
Remind me again why anyone likes this useless fuck?

I think the game would have improved if the Slitherers had actually been genocided by Rhea and the crest experimentation and shit was done by disgruntled nobles that wanted more power. They really didn’t matter much beyond making Edelgard look bad in her own route.

Yeah on a shit character obsessed with knightdom and 13% of the population

Because BE can’t deal with the slitherers without undermining the entire route. If they are easy to deal with, edelshart working with them makes no sense, if they are hard to deal with fodlan is getting nuked

I don't remember Elliot being targeted by his former crush, or having her kick him out of house and put thot that hates him in charge of it, only to ruin his home for him.

Dimitri is fine as long as Edelgard isn't attempting to murder him and take over his kingdom by force.
There's a difference.

Because she doesn't need it? Aymr is OP as fuck.

And Dimitri's unique class isn't even mounted even though he has a budding talent in riding and lance users typically go down the cavalier line. Everyone's unique class sucks except for Claude who ends up with a flying mount in the end

Someone post THAT image of Azura's "plan" from the beginning of Revelations. You know, THAT one.

It is. Battalions, canto, dismount, and no weapon triangle are all infinitely more broken in the players favor than Fates’ version of pairup. Both games encourage lowmanning so Ryoma Emblem is pretty moot. Three Houses barely makes use of specialized weapons, skills, and battalions on enemy units too.

And costs an arm and a leg to fix

Edelgard didn't get rid of them immediately because they were still useful to their plan to take down Rhea. It's after the battle is done that they get rid of her uncle and the slithers since they're no longer needed.
Did you skip Hubert's paralogue? They kept them close because they knew how to develop those OP weapons that were almost as good as relics

That's unironically Edelgard when it comes to Byleth way more.
Dimitri only starts being after her head after getting his own knife thrown at him by Flame Emperor.

Jeralt has Rhea's blood, thats why he doesnt get old

Aymr is only for emergencies. 95% of the time she should be running brave axe, silver, and short for range.

Yep

It only costs like 3 umbral steel right? That's nothing.

When did Edelgard try to kill Dimitri? She was targeting the church, not the other houses.

Rhea and Byleth's child would baffle all of Sothisdom by continuing to live

>because they were still useful to their plan to take down Rhea.
user. Tell me why do they have this plan?

It's because good FE lords DON'T NEED NO SHITTY HORSE TO BE BADASS

When she hired bandits to attack them and when she raided the Holy Tomb and again made people attack them? Or are you gonna tell me she was just telling them to attack them a tiny bit?

Beginning of the game, for one.
And obviously being the flame emperor and allying with slithers make her a direct accomplice of everything they pull in the game.

Not even the best relic

Are you retarded? The very first chapter where you fight the bandits she hired to kill them.

When she stabbed in the back after he reached out his hand like she kept telling everyone to do

Right at the beginning of the game.

Same with Areadbhar but Areadbhar actually kills things faster. Galeforce is neato but I'd much more content just using Stride+Warp+Dancer on Dimitri and kill boss as quickly as possible

The whole first part is her trying to off you or scare you into joining her.

desu we need more infantry lance units, shit's badass but we rarely get access to them.

Beginning of the game, at remire village, in the tomb twice, at the battle of garreg Mach, the entire timeskip section

6 Agarthium IIRC

nice

She hired those bandits to chase off the guy who was escorting them, the one who was supposed to become the teacher at the academy instead of Byleth
Or are you telling me she put her life in danger just for the lulz?

Did you even play the fucking game?

She explicitly gives instructions to kill as many nobles as he can. She paid bandits money to kill students, this happened.

She told the bandits to kill every noble pipsqueak they found. It's like the first dialogue box when you see the Flame Emperor talking to their leader.

dude Galeforce is more useful than unit effectiveness, you can do more damage with brave lance if you wanted damage

I have never seen that shit, does it only drop from the endgame beasts or something?

Ahhh okay I think Failnaught only cost 3 umbral and I just assumed they were the same.

You can't be THAT much of a Edeltard. She LITERALLY tells the bandits to kill your students.

What the fuck was she supposed to say?
"Hey attack this gang of people, but only the knight. Don't touch the nobles there"

Slitherer related monsters drop them like the big fucking golems

user, did you seriously even play the game?
>Or are you telling me she put her life in danger just for the lulz?
Yes. She isn't very bright.

Should be from the Titanus Cornelia uses.

And what is the goal of scaring the teacher off? I don’t recall jeritza being there to plant him or anything.

What exactly does she gain by killing them with that supposed ambush?
Her plan was for the guy to flee and put Jeritza as professor instead. Literally why would she care about killing them?

Well yes because if you want LTCs Areadbhar is practically RNG Proof.

I mean yes? Or use more trustworthy people than bandits and give them more clear instructions than "kill as many as you can"

Holy cope

>edeltards aren’t a meme
Goddamn

Please tell me these are just baits for (you)s? Please tell me that you didn't play the game. Please, just tell me that you aren't unironically this retarded.
Did you skip like entire game or something?

>the absolute state of edeltards

Because
>CRESTS
>BAD

>What exactly does she gain by killing them with that supposed ambush?
No opposition when she starts her war on the church, making it easier to gain control over each territory.

>what exactly does she gain by killing the people she intends to kill
Inceltards are fucking braindead

She would have an easier time conquering the Kingdom and the Alliance.

>what does she gain by killing two prominent leaders of the nations she intends to invade

Azura would have been so much better if she was just a spy for the invisibles the entire time.

Are you actually retarded or do you think that killing the heirs to the kingdom and alliance wouldn't have made shit hit the fan in rage?

Oh that’s why. It drops on the second to last map. What a fucking joke. Does rest repair it or does that only fix the creator sword?

Please, stop posting. You are making the rest of us look bad with your stupidity.

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DEER GAAAANG

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Why wouldn't she be able to make use of that? For all they know, bandits killed them in a freak accident. The Empire wouldn't get shit for it and the chaos would benefit her war.

This exact response here is why people make fun of edelgard

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As much as I dislike her, Edelgard is a great character
Ballsy for IS to shill the cute girl while making her a murderous villain and rusing everybody

MOTHER OF ALL LIFE IN FOLAND

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Holy shit. This has to be the most dumb user I've seen in these threads so far.

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>confusion and chaos among your enemies is a bad thing
Keep posting please

Just came in to say Edelgards red leggings turn me on.

She must have been a really chill mom.

>yeah dude bandits killed them all except Edelgard, that's not suspicious or shady at all

Give me one reason crests are good for humanity

That's why she had bandits do it. It would leave Cornelia the next living heir to the kingdom (who is a slither) and it would eliminate the Alliance as an immediate threat since they'd be busy with in-fighting. And she herself would be free to carry on as planned for the time being with either side none the wiser since she herself would've been attacked believably as well.

No user, you don't understand. When she said "kill them" she obviously meant "gently walk them home"

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Flame Emperor hired bandits to kill Dimitri and Claude. Do the math.

They allow you to procreate better with dragons

And while they're scrambling from the infighting to fill the power vacuum and trying to solve this mystery, the Empire suddenly gets to steamroll right through their territories.

Unga Bunga Me Kill Small Creature Because Slither Said So

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Okay, I'm at the Edelgard/church route thing
I hear the Church route is very similar to the other houses' routes - is that true? I saved beforehand, but I'd rather play something a bit more unique.

Edelgard's route stinks of being added at the last second. My theory is that she wasn't inteded to have a route but pulled an Elsa.

This is my attitude towards females in these games and their real purpose.

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Did someone say Azula?

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Church is a GD rehash with less lore

Based grug

Lions WW@

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proofs?

? How is Rhea your sister or mother? I understand daughter since you're half sothis. But Rhea didn't give birth to you and she's not your sister either..

This is why she didn't tell them "oh don't hurt the red one." It was a legitimate attack which she gambled on surviving by her own merits.

They aren't but Rhea had a choice either purge any female that ever came into theoretical proximity top the rape gang or try to shape their descendants into something better and leave the past behind.

Cute Annette

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Isn't it funny that Nemesis is so hyped up only to literally be some dumb fuck that the Slithers told to go kill dragons because why not.

This IS a BLUE board so what do you think?

Annette is my wife!

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>the regent king being assassinated and the prince being immediately sentenced to death, right after the empire declared war isn’t shady at all
Yeah, no one cares

she's your sister because you're half sothis, mother because.....she had a direct hand in your creation?

See Flayn and Linhardt.

They repel invaders and keep the common folk safe

What ISN’T wrong would be the better question.

>no shapeshifter units in 3H
I really want to see the bunnies make a comeback.

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>implying that isn’t how humans operate
>implying you wouldn’t nuke dragons if you could
>implying you wouldn’t fight some faggot dragon empire if you could

The slitherers are the only pro-humanity faction in the game. And the only faction not a shade of lawfaggotry.

Reporting in

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That's YOUR girl?

I thought Sothis was Rhea's mom. I don't see the sister part. You're not Rhea's daughter/son and you're not her sister in anyway either because you werent born under Sothis

All mine!

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Good choice. Here's mine.

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That sucks. Guess I'll go Edelgard, then.

>dragon empire
It was literally one valley tho

In their defense: Almost every character in Fates sucked dick. Especially females. So you may as well pick with your dick instead.

You would get along with Felix

I dunno user, Lindhardt is a pretty virile man, that might screw the results

jesus christ looking back at this i realize how little character any of the units in fates had in their design
only a handful of them feel unique or exude any personality

She says it to Dimitri right before killing him.

>implying that isn't Felix posting

gilbert best girl

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She's your daughter and your grandmother, not your mother or your sister.

HERD YOU WAS TALKIN SHIT, DEATH KNIGHT

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I'd like less retarded looking versions of the beasts from Fates

If Seiros was the sole survivor, how did she find 4 other dragons for her party? The dragons were spread out.

>Despite being....
what is the correct response for this question?

You always see one character shoot up the rankings when it's their birthday

I’m talking about the resulting empire

bird and turtle were out fucking bitches, seteth was too busy having a family to be genocided

>dragons can't travel they have to sit in their reservation!!!

To hell with beta bunnies. I'm more mad that we have two playable manaketes in this game and you can't play as said manakete with them.

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>Your mother and brother/sisters get mangled and their corpses turn into weapons by this unga bandit filling you with pure rage and disgust
you know Dimitri and Rhea would be quite the couple of Unga imagine the children

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Dubsteppers call surface humans "beasts" the same way they call the dragons "beasts." Sothis is said to have created her children with her blood. Sothis poured her strength into the continent to revitalize after the human fuckers back then destroyed the land and tried to kill her and her peeps. Did she remake humanity?

that's the best part though
The dreaded king of liberation wasn't some high and mighty demon, dragon or monster with a goal of domination
he was just some angry dumbfuck that hated the gods and was manipulated into doing the Slyther's interests
He's kind of like Byleth, fierce battle worn leader given god power to do the bidding of some puppeteer, which also makes him a parallel to Edelgard, with the difference being Byleth and Edelgard (In BE) ultimately win back their indipendence
This is what makes his boss battle so kino, facing up against a buried truth to put an end to a war that has no longer anything to do with anyone
It could only be better if you had the chance to also kill Rhea

Imagine how different things would be if Dimitri took your advice that it was not too late to reconnect with Edelgard.

3 including Byleth.

yes

Should've made Dimitri have a rage mechanic in all post timeskip maps that he's featured in so anytime you kill his allies, he gets angrier with more stats to him

How in the everloving fuck is someone "good" when they have Demons in their Ranks and even turns into a demon, what's uo with japs and portraying the Church as evil?

Byleth isn't basically a manakete. There is no secret dragon form for Byleth. Byleth is just an abomination that ended up being more autistic than planned.

you want the fucker to be invincible?

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He does it's just activated 24/7 because the deaths of his family broke his rage meter. 60 STR GROWTH

>manaketes
Manaketes are only a thing in the Marth/Tikki/Naga continuity. 3H dragons don't need stones and Flayn and her "brother" have such strongly diluted bloodlines they can't change.

No please. Gronder Field and Fields of Revenge would be fucking ludicrous

Dimitri is so lost in rage in BE that he doesn't even care when an ally dies.
Unlike the other routes

>BE
Golden Deer*

What Dimitri needs is another crit animation where he impales someone and lifts them skyward like goddamn Vlad Tepes Dracul

>tfw only game in which you could play as not-manakete yourself is fucing Fates and said manakete was trash tier with garbage design

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Now I want Draculamitri

He's already terrifying in GD's Gronder Field, I don't wanna face him in Lunatic or internal if this happens

any good doujins for this game out yet?

Seteth says that he lost the ability to change. Macuil and Indech are also stuck in their beast forms. I'm not sure if the game specifies what cause them to lose their abilities.

WUB WUB WUB WUB

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they're also in magvelSS and elibe[spoilerthe other 2 gba games ]

Female Corn was hot though. Male Corn was ugly as fuck on another hand.

More like FAGvel

Fuq off Fates dragons at least looked different than the standard fare.

I just want a battle camera mode that lays out the fight from a sideview perspective

I see a Dorothea one but it's western.

Now that you mention it, he kinda is like Tepes.

It would look like shit.

For a strictly bow unit would bow knight or wyvern lord be better?

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Bow knight obviously. +2 range is worth the gimped stats.

Corn's """""""dragon""""""" looked stupid. It didn't even look like the dragon. It's easily the worst """""""dragon""""""" design FE pulled.

The game literally says why.

Bow knight gets 2 extra range and bowfaire IIRC

GÁE BULG

shota dimitri x cornelia during duscur fucking where

Bernadetta had a hard life

Just say it's like it is the dragon form looked like a modern pokemon design.

She died like she lived, like a true jobber.

>Go GD
>Recruit everyone including Ashe
>Don't see him in Time Skip
>Still have to fight him and persuade
>It's because of you that I am here, Professor. Thank You!
what the fuck was his problem?

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that shit is so savage she probably didnt even felt it

Nah, he's just trying to maintain his composure.
You can see a small crack in his facade if Ingrid dies.

I think that someone once posted rape fic in which Cornelia molested shota Dimitri during tragedy of Duscar on /feg/. So ask for it there.

Lorenz is the same in BL

Him and Lorenz are the ones who return to their respective factions I think

So is Hilda. They still return normally after it, like nothing happened prior.

>She died like she lived
Alone?
A tool for someone else's gain?
On fire?

She doesn't deserve this.

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True knights don't have time for a class reunion.

Both will leave you in church.

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He was trying to be a true knight like Lonato

They only return for that one chapter. I had same thing happen to me with Hilda on lion play. She just returned normally after it like the whole thing before it never happened.

Can't she also be set on fire by Edelgard on that same map? Whats with torturing her so much?

you know, if this game was more graphic that shit could probably rip her in half with that force

>Flayn, please stop sleeping with fish as if they were stuffed animals. Your room smells like a dock.

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>We actually get a golden route dlc in spring.
>The only difference is Byleth lets Edelgard die at the beginning of the game.
>Part II turns into a massive Claude/Dimitri bromance as they go out and kick cultist ass. Final boss is Nemesis and zombie Edelgard.

Y/N?

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yes but waifufags would tell you no

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>Edelgard worse than Azura
>Edelgard and Azura aren’t worse than Marth in drag in Awakening

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That's a big YES from me.

There used to be a trigger point in the Blue Lions story in which Annette and Felix would betray you and Dimitri but it was scrapped. This is apparent since they have Battle+Death Quotes against Sylvain, Dimitri, Gilbert and Byleth during the siege of Fhirdiad

>Jeralt becomes the lord of the route
kino

>Claude/Dimitri bromance
You almost had that happen in lions, but IS said no and had to have Claude fuck off as usual because we can't have two lords working together without them trying to sell you some jew-c regarding it first.

Should have played on hard. Shits too easy
And edel is best waifu

Eh, wyvern lord has better mobility that makes up for the range, but it might not make up for the lack of bowfaire.

Would love this to be honest. It almost happened in BL too.
>This is Sothis' and Jeralt's route

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

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Lucina is a boring character who loses all relevance to the story the moment she joins you. That said, at worst she's inoffensive. Also she facilitates one of the best scenes in all of Fire Emblem, when she confronts you and you're her mother.

Black Eagles is far and away the most popular house. Do you not see those deployment charts?

This narrative will be shattered in like a year when THtards need something to cling to in the inevitable shitflinging between those who like different games in the series, since Edelgard and Dimitri are genuinely the most compelling thoughtful lords in the series. The fun thing about Azura is that she’s literally a con of Fire Emblem Fates and arguably a caricature of everything wrong with that little 3ds era of games. Everyone realizing they thought Azura was shit was universal, it was beautiful, it was organic. It was almost human nature.

Bernie gets hot
Feel the Bern
Recluse dies in fire

WTF? That sounds fucking cool. Why did they betray Dimitri? Do you have any leftover scripts that suggest to it?

I don't think you know how those work, user.

Don't fucking remind me. That thing was such wasted opportunity. Fuck ISIS.

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Me too man

Now think hard. why would the number 1 BOAR hater betray Dimitri?

I'm not too sure about Felix but Annette betrays Dimitri because her mother and uncle is being threatened that if House Dominic doesn't co-operate, they will all burn.

>claude gives you his bow in BL
Neat
>does 10 damage to you every time combat is engaged with that unit
FUCK

Don't give relics to crestlet commoners like Ashe.

Judging by cut script, apparently Felix was to attack Dimitri after Rodrigue got killed. He seems to blame Dimitri for his death.

>clinging to an untranslated article from a fujoshit magazine
>ignoring the actual deployment numbers
Lion/Deer fags are absolutely unable to cope

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Felix maybe an asshole to Dimitri but he still cares about him, just play the Blue Lions. This is even more evident post timeskip.
Felix betrays him because he is berserked and he thinks that Dimitri is the reason why Glenn died.

But he shoots the bow good

>she doesn't become a tyrant
lol

Regardless of what you might think of Edelgard, there's no denying she's a wonderfully written villain. She's not a one note "UNGA ME BAD ME CONQUER EVERYTHING" like other FE baddies. She's considered evil because of the actions she takes for her ideals, she believes that the end justifies the means which is why she'll burn everything against her path to achieve her goals for a bright future for Fodlan. In a way she's a tragic villain who believes she's doing the right thing even if it ends with the deaths of millions.
Her retarded white knights don't realize that this is what makes her character interesting and they instead decide to shitpost about how she's a didnu muffin.

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I meant Rodrigue. Fuck.

So does Byleth and Felix and Dimitri.

>I only murdered other people and the church
>because the people that were helping me were evil!
Why are you guys so fucking retarded?

I love Edelgard but what I love about her is that her ideals are so unapologetically villainesque and she tells it all straight to the professor’s face, she never fronts about it

That's pretty cool not gonna lie. I suppose it was cut since they might not have enough time to implement it.

I hate his coconut-head looking ass, but desu he’s pretty hot post timeskip

Its nice they got the "grey" route of conquest right the 2nd time around, be nice if it wasnt so retarded but good job team.

>This board really has become Reddit.
Reddit loves Edelgard.

It's too early to take percentage at face value for now most people are still on their first playthrough. Wait two months and then pass a judgement based on in-game stats. For now all we know is that the cover waifu is the first pick for the majority that started the game.

My dumbass didn't save the link to one video that had cut dialogue (that was fully voiced) that had Dimitri vs Felix. Anyway, Felix seemed to be mad about his father's death judging by it. So probably that.

So what happens to the Empire students?

Most people will only play this game once

I agree, but at the same time I do wish they didn't pussy out in her route. BE so very obviously wants you to sympathize with Edelgard, to the point where everything just kind of unrealistically works out for her because you have to be the good guy.
BE route would likely be the most interesting route by far if they actually went all in on letting you play the villain (including having a tragic ending where things start to fall apart because lol played right into the cultist's hands).

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Is there any unknown consequences to skipping paralogues (aside from Dedue) or letting students get crippled in part one: white clouds? Maybe that could trigger a betrayal.

They go away after graduation and have long, fulfilling lives if you don't poach them.

>youtube.com/watch?v=iG35-BifhWI
>youtube.com/watch?v=Nxc--LNrzZQ

You're welcome.

Most of these people would genuinely like her more if she was actually evil for evil's sake and leaned into it rather than someone who believes she's doing the right thing and has her reasons even if her resolve to achieve her goal means she does bad things and makes use of bad people along the way.

They see her characterisation in her own route as "trying to justify her actions" as if she should have no justification for her actions and that would make her a better character.

The "she did nothing wrong" crowd are obviously memeing or outright wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that with Byleth's support when she's able to hold onto herself she's not really even close to evil.

She's also very unfortunate in that her goal of eliminating the Nobility combined with her legitimately good chances of being able to do that (thanks to the military strength of the Empire) would have been a huge rallying cry to the downtrodden masses and the war rendered largely unnecessary (or the Lords of the Kingdom and the Alliance would've had to prove themselves the "evil" pragmatists by putting down the rebellions).

She wouldn't even have needed the slitherers in a situation like that and could've dealt with them immediately instead of tying them off as loose ends after the war.

But all that goodwill she would have garnered with the commoners was stifled by the fact she was pointing a sword at the source of hope for most of them, even if it is secretly run by a reptillian.

>"grey"
Oh god who let you out of reddit?