Is that statue supposed to represent the Holy Virgin Mary ?

Is Dragon Quest a Catholic game ?

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Same thing about the Legend of Zelda...Here, a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Is Link a Roman Catholic ?

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no, but the idea of a goddess of holy faith is a staple among classic fantasy tropes that dragon quest has long held to

Yeah pretty much.

No. There's no bible nonsense in DQ.

No sex before marriage user.

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In a world of high fantasy, Good and Evil it's a very natural fit.

>In a world of high fantasy, Good and Evil it's a very natural fit.
It's a really good fit in this real world too.

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>No sex before marriage user.
Holy user.

Japanese have always had a very... pop-culture approach to Christianity. In other words they embrace the bits that look or seem cool without looking at the ideas behind them. See how they promoted Passion of the Christ on release. You could say the same in the West about Shinto and Buddhism.

>See how they promoted Passion of the Christ on release.
How did they promote it exactly ?

>blatantly obvious parody of Catholicism

WTF IS THIS LIKE LITERALLY A CHRISTIAN GAME? THE VIRGIN MARY?

A guy dressed up as Jesus with the cross at a subway entrance motioning people to the nearest movie theatre.

I don't get the last one....

Virgin Mary is aesthetic and based.

>I don't get the last one....
Well, it's obvious. It's the forces of evil versus the forces of good.

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They blatantly have churches among the church being treated as good. Take a wild guess

A parody is supposed to mock the object, which is not the fact here.
Please, show a video if there is one, I want to see Japsus.

based and christpilled

>Virgin Mary is aesthetic and based.
Holy and Eucharisted

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winged statues aren't uncommon in high fantasy

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Can't find it sadly, but I remembered reading the article from a reputable news site around the time of the release in theatres.

last one should say evil vs good to deliver the point better

Most Dragon Quest games feature a religion that worships the Goddess Rubiss, who you actually meet in a few of them. It's clearly based on Christianity, but they've got their own thing going. It looks like they worship spirits instead of the goddess in DQXI, but I haven't played far enough to know if there's anything up with that.

Christian imagery used to be even more prevalent in DQ, by now most of it was removed. It never meant anything though, just an easthetics thing

Dragon Quest used to feature heavy catholic iconography. The church was considered wholeheartedly a good institution and the default belief of all the heroes. All that was changed because muh offended religions.

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They worship Yggdrasil, which is a giant floating tree you can see from many places in the world.
It pointlessly turns out to be a dragon

Its just an angel you autistic retard

It comes and goes. DQIX was about literal guardian angels trying to bring about the second coming of Girl Jesus and defeat a fallen angel that became a demon. It's not fair to say the Christian imagery has been toned down over time, because that was way more blatant than the series had ever been up to that point.

>Dragon Quest used to feature heavy catholic iconography. The church was considered wholeheartedly a good institution and the default belief of all the heroes. All that was changed because muh offended religions.
Well, the Japs were pretty right dare I say.

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>You are not your own
>for you were bought with a price

so believers are actually mindslaves then?

Like Zelda then.

Rubiss is from DQ I, II, and III. The Zenithian Dragon is in IV, V, and the end of VI, but only VI has King Zenith. VII has The Almighty/The Master/God. VIII has the goddess, but is not met in any direct way. IX has Zemus and Celestria. Yggdrasil is a common element in all games since you can find leaves, but it's pivotal in IX and XI.

>He doesn't know about Rubiss.

>by now most of it was removed.
>11 has goddess statues, divine blessings, and a canonical creator goddess.

Catholic here, Mary isn't an angel or a goddess. She's "just" the mother of God, which is something to be venerated, but not worshiped.

>parody is supposed to mock the object...

wrong idiot

>False idol
No.

retard protestant larping as a catholic detected

>Zemus never appears in the game except when you perform a sage coup de grâce and it's only for a brief second
>Those three grotto bosses who claim to be Zemus but divided and made flesh
>That hinting of Stella and Celestria once being together to form a being called "Stellestria"
>That one nameless woman who would always curse heaven and was buried at the foot of the glowing tree on Pluvii Isle and priests would always pray for her salvation
>That random boss monster locked away in one of the cars the cars of the Starflight Express
That game had so many loose ends and the post game content had untapped potential

Nope, this is what the Catholic Church teaches. Try again

retard, mother of jesus not god

>A parody is supposed to mock the object
Wrong
Also God is literally in DQVII and he's a silly dude with a beard.

>Fuck, we need to use something both esoteric but also understood enough that people get the symbolism.
>I know!

Every fucking time.

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You don't know shit about mah catolicism

So literally norse mythology.

>All that was changed because muh offended religions.
lol no it wasnt you politics-obsessed faggot. Go play DQXI.

I haven't played 11, but the only game in the rest of the series where the main church is even hinted at being morally grey is 8, and even then it's like 2 or 3 guys who are squabbling for succession rights.

The second you see this shit, drop the game.

Jesus = God; try again Mormon
Coming from someone who can't spell it, that doesn't mean much

Lobotomy Corporation was great, though

Who fucking wrote that sentence? Cringe.

angels are from Greek mythology and older

She's Mother of God, that's her official name by the Catholic Church.
It only makes sense if you understand the Trinity.

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>what is the rosary
>what are all the Marian litanies
>what is the title "queen of heaven"
>what is the entire history of Marian devotions

She's """"just"""" the mother of god though, go to confirmation and come back again.

Mary mother of God is her title retard.

I don't, because that's about 30% of all fucking games gone, but it does make me fucking laugh that a fairly shitty jewish mindmap is everyone's go-to "spooky mysterious" world, and provide some basic novelty when they draw on something different. Persona has a lot of fucking problems but deciding to mix in tarot and jungian psychology was nice, and SMT's monster list (while also dipping right into another basic bitch pick of dante's three works) at least has some semi-obscure influences.

It's fine, I get it. I am slightly confused as to why kabbalah is such a common pick though.

All of these things are veneration which is a step below worship. Praying to those in heaven is the same is asking those among you to pray for you to God. You simply don't understand Catholic doctrine, and that's okay. Just educate yourself from the source, not from anti-Catholic sources.

Christianity is the only religion japs know anything about since some europeans stopped by occasionally centuries ago and all their honored gaijin were christians

"We, therefore, who, though unworthy, hold the place of Vicar of Christ upon earth, shall never cease to promote the glory of so great a Mother, as long as life endures." (Vatican.va)
"...when she [Mary] is the subject of preaching and worship she prompts the faithful to come to her Son..." (Vatican Council II, p. 420, See documenation here.)

“There are several degrees of this worship: ... 3) As the Blessed Virgin has a separate and absolutely supereminent rank among the saints, the worship paid to her is called hyperdulia (for the meaning and history of these terms see Suicer, Thesaurus ecclesiasticus, 1728).” (newadvent.org/cathen/15710a.htm)

"All generations will call me blessed": "The Church's devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship." The Church rightly honors "the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of 'Mother of God,' to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs. . . . This very special devotion . . . differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration." The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an "epitome of the whole Gospel," express this devotion to the Virgin Mary," (CCC 971)

Back to your WASP family larper :) really such a simple concept for anyone who grew up catholic to understand.

>t-t-thats not real worship...

It's meant to represent the bond that should be between yourself, your father, and your mother. It is prettified in stone to show their failure, and your inability to adapt to the adult world.

I mean drop it when they just shove it in your fucking face, the symbol specifically, as just a big thing. That's your sign that they're not putting any effort in. It's one thing to name your character "Sephirot" or use it as a basis for something, but those bitches who just shove it right up front are lazy assholes.

DQIX was great though those the Wrecks family got a little silly afterward.

marriage is idiotic

fucked up the tag TWICE

Muh worship of statues, art and gold.

hyperdulia - The worship offered by Roman Catholics to the Virgin Mary: so called because it is higher than that given to other saints, which is known as dulia, while the worship due to God alone is called latria. See dulia. Also hyper-duly.

None is above God, including Mary. This is a problem in the lack of ability in the English language to differentiate terms without having to refer to Latin

I think it was well used in Tales of the Abyss. Haven't played it in years so I don't remember much. But the kabbalah and music references made a pretty nice setting.

>catholicism
>not chalcedonian

Shintoism? Buddhism?

n.The worship offered by Roman Catholics to the Virgin Mary: so called because it is higher than that given to other saints, which is known as dulia, while the worship due to God alone is called latria. See dulia. Also hyper-duly.
n. Veneration or worship given to the Virgin Mary as the most exalted of mere creatures; higher veneration than dulia.
n. A level of veneration higher than dulia but less than latria, properly given to the Virgin Mary.

Post your favorite DQ games to keep this on topic. I enjoyed 1 and 2, but haven't had time to try the others yet.

Only a fucking larper would try so hard to fight against the claim that the virgin mary is worshiped in Catholicism despite written statements from the vatican literally saying that the Virgin Mary sees a form of worship lmao.

>People on Yea Forums arguing about catholic doctrine as if there hasn't been a history of deadly schisms of people dying over shit like (brief list): The trinity, the nature of the holy spirit, what gospels are apocrypha, intercession, confirmation, baptism at birth, baptism in general, the language of the bible, general asceticism and/or lack thereof, the role of priests, the hierarchy of the ordained, the act of excommunication, the repudiation of excommunication, the authority of excommunication, papal infallibility, papal temporal power, papal spiritual power, the election and exact nature of the pope, the sex, age, race of the ordained, the nature of the afterlife, the practice of purchasing indulgences (when, how, why and who may indulge and be so indulged), the name itself.

Oh and that's just first fucking millennia. We aint even dipping into the prime-beef shitposting of Protestantism. Yea Forums are children in the playground compared to the giants of incredibly lethal arguments over minutiae of religious practice. Better to just examine my six than continue.

>ignores the official definitions and continues to believe lies.
Pearls before swine. I'm done here

check my 4 for proof that catholics worship the virgin mary

Man Twilight Princess has such a cool Gothic aesthetic. I wonder why no other Zelda game has that.

Protestants are silly and are the evil of Christianity. They ought to repent.

>pretentious moron thinks he is a master of catholic theology, so much so that his theory is above the pope and the catholic church itself.

ayy lmao one day you'll actually receive your sacraments

fuck we're both heretics now.

You know the Messiah revealed Himself literally yesterday, right?

I fucking hate catholic threads so much.

>I fucking hate catholic threads so much.

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Its the goddess and she is actually real in DQ lore