Tetsuya Nomura is the worst thing that ever happened to video games.
Tetsuya Nomura is the worst thing that ever happened to video games
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Not even close. He's not even the worst person at Square-Enix. Don't be a drama queen.
A bold statement. Care to support your argument?
no he is pretty good, they just should let him write anything anymore
I mean not let
This.
His dicksuckers are awful, though. Dude's a mediocre director and his good games flourish in spite of him, but he's no Toriyama.
Nomura is literal a man using a Disney license to tell his own fanfiction
>He's not even the worst person at Square-Enix. Don't be a drama queen.
He is now only because Tabata got his ass fired for fucking up and cansualizing FF15
unless you got remind leaks piss off you fucking nigger
You mean saved XV after nomura fucked around for 7 years failing to make a game then wanted to make it a musical
Tabata not only made FFXV an actual great game but the most successful single player FF ever with it STILL outpacing sales for every FF, and he left SE on his own choice to start a new company and many SE devs went with him to his new company, most of whom were former members of Nomura's team. Nomura is a hack and always has been a hack
>You mean saved XV
ah, yes "saving" by gutting the story for DLCs, letting story DLCs be cancelled, putting part of the story in a CGI movie, and THIS for the combat all because he wanted to pander to casuals:
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15 blame goes to everyone, not just Tabata.
Tabata gets blame for being a corporate yes man and trying to make a hyper casual action game.
He's such a gorilla when it concerns game design. A legitimate hack.
>circa 2006
>wants creates vXIII just bcuz he hates xiii
>Squeeni approves and adds Agito xiii bcuz they want another Ivalice Alliance
>while also working on Crisis Core, FFXIII, Dissidia 013 & 012,Agito, KH Series (Coded,IIFM,BBS,358/2,III)
>Hyping it up for 5 yrs w/ trailers
>Agito renamed T-0 & released
>a year later
>Fans:where is it?
>Squeeni makes excuses bcuz Nomura was in so many projects he can't finish the game.
>Squeeni scraps vXIII and have Tabata made the game from its ruins.
>Also make it a mainline game bcuz they have none to release this decade.
>have only 4 years development
>Still not finished
>Delayed release to 6 months
>Have to Delayed it again for PS4 Pro
>Game is still a mess but a decent mess.
>and don't get me started w/ FFXIV 1.0
The lesson: Never bite more than you can chew.
And i thank Tabata for salvaging XV. Squeeni really get over their head after the merger. think they can do so many projects at once. Bcuz of this, many former Square employees left.
>He is now
he's still not even close. need i remind you that toriyama is still there after shitting out three god-awful waifu fanfictions disguised as games. the hacks who made left alive are still there. they have people shitting out mobile gacha shit. based nomura is unironically one of the few competent people at squeenix.
>posts clip of retarded furry playing like shit on purpose while holding R1+O and STILL taking damage while having one of the strongest weapons equipped used against one of the weakest grunt mob enemies in the entire game while having full end game level stats and a full 5 man party including Cor
Holy shit did you really want to invalidate yourself that badly you fucking nomura cocksucking shill?
You know all DLC was made post launch and has nothing to do with the main story right? Or are you fucking retarded that you think Gladio getting a scar somehow had any bearing on Noctis's journey to becoming the king of kings and sacrificing himself on the throne to restore the dawn?
>this autistic bullshit again
Oh fuck off KH cocksucking faggot
That isn't the combat at all because you have manual attacks with opener, mid, finisher, counter and aerial attacks, charge attacks, directional inputs, warpstrike, point warps and warp itself, manual weapon switching which each weapon type plays differently, plus character switch which adds even more variety because each member has their own unique combat to them.
Stop fucking posting outdated 2014 mistranslated interview from over 2 years before the game even released that was literally debunked a few days after it was posted.
You're such a retarded cunt that gets BTFO on a daily basis and you're a piece of absolute shit.
You want casual go look at KH3, Nomura's latest shitfest that you can win by doing nothing.
can't wait for your meltdown when the ff7 remake dabs all over ffxv, just like kh3, persona 5, sekiro, and dmc5 already did.
No canon story dlc was cancelled, and the non canon alt timeline dlc that was cancelled was entirely bonus 3rd round dlc that didnt even leave the script phase before getting cancelled you dumb niger
Except Tabata went against the higher ups wishes constantly and made it more core and less casual than it ever was under nomura. Under Nomura it was only auto weapons and nothing more, tabata made it manual.
Based
if ffxv was such an amazing success, why did they cancel any dlc? wouldn't they be milking it as much as possible?
face it, ffxv is one of the biggest blunders in the history of gaming - all thanks to tabata and his sonic 06 cronies.
the difference between Toriyama & Nomura is that Toriyama gets games done on time.
is that why ffxiii got delayed several times and still turned out to be a shitty hallway simulator?
Based
KH3 is way worse than P5, Sekiro and DMC5. They're not even in the same league.
>implying he wanted to really continue working on this game when he had Versus XIII by his side
>you have manual attacks with opener, mid, finisher, counter and aerial attacks, charge attacks, directional inputs, warpstrike, point warps and warp itself, manual weapon switching which each weapon type plays differently
But none of that matters because the game is literally 'hold a button until the enemies are dead'
Better months than a decade
months? try years. ffxiii started development in 2004 and didn't come out until december 2009. imagine what you'd be saying if that was nomura.
5 years is comparably months when it's compared with a decade
Worst writer in video games? Maybe top 3. Motherfucker makes fanfic writers look like literary geniuses.
Worst thing in general? God no. I'm not a huge fan of the guy but there's a LOT of worse stuff out there.
the difference is that ffxv's development was derailed by executive meddling. in contrast, toriyama was allowed to take forever to make his shitty waifu hallway simulator that looked like it was thrown together in a year.
Nomura had a LONG time to finalize things, and still didn't before S-E gave it to a producer who'd finish the damn game. Good or not, Tabata got it done and on budget.
meanwhile in reality, ffxv is unfinished and will never be finished. tabata and his sonic 06 cronies ruined nomura's kino.
>ignoring that Luna holding Noctis happens after the fight not before it, and the fight themselves aren't even the same thing meanwhile KH3 here is the same tier of trash as Sonic 06.
Guess by your logic XV must be Zone of the Enders because that fight has you fly and shoot projectiles. Eat shit.
>bringing up random games to throw against XV to hide behind because KH3 was such a piece of trash.
>sonic 06 has sonic get kissed while unconscious then he turn super sonic and everyone was happily ever after
>xv has noct get weakened and flung far away from luna who had just been stabbed and is bleeding out, from afar she channels the king of king powers through the royal arm trident into noct who then powers up and defeats leviathan, then he falls unconscious, then Luna while still bleeding out drags her body over to noct and tries to heal him, titan then gets summoned and he punches the ground under the water to stop leviathan and the tidal wave crashes over luna and noct, killing luna
wow can you get any more retarded
sonic 06 ripped off kino hearts to begin with.
But you're the one having a meltdown because XV shat all over KH3?
He gave me TWEWY so he's good in my book.
I think he's the worst thing about squeenix personally.
Yep
>Ruined FF by removing everything that made it FF to put on a photorealistic sci-fi fantasy fuccboi fashion show. twinks and zoomers flock to it and kill the fantasy parts off entirely
>Somehow convinces Disney Mickey and the most degenerate parts of bishounen anime go REALLY well together, turning an entire generation of kids gay
>Uses Square's millions to pump marketing into his garbage, creating an endless feedback loop of confirmation bias that his trash is somehow good (it's not)
>Two gaming generations later, we all pay the price for it
VIVA LA FFIX
VIVA LA FFVII
VIVA LA FFXIV
May Taro spell the DEATH of this endless twink nightmare.
They released 3 years of DLC with two of those years being entirely BONUS years of DLC content you dumb cunt, they only canceled the non canon alt timeline bonus DLC while they still released the canon prequel DLC in 2019.
FFXV sold more than any other FF ever when comparing release timespans, it had more positive reviews than any other FF, it made more than any KH has ever made, it destroyed KH3, meanwhile KH3 is literally sonic 06 tier
The Post-DLC was cutting room floor stuff and always was.
The key part that was needed to be done was the main game, and he did that. Everything else was extra. Better that than nothing at all.
All of it matters, if you hold you will lose
but it didn't.
Probably one of the worst writers.
His design arent that bad
Nah, he only matters if you're still hung up on the FF and KH franchises, which you should have lost interest for around 2010-2014 after FFXIII saga and that era from Birth By Sleep to Dream Drop Distance where he was just procrastinating on KH3 with unnecessary fanfiction. If you were invested in his and SE's main works through all this, you deserved to be let down in the Year of Our Lord 2019 when so many better IPs in the gaming world exist. This isn't 2000-2006 when SE reigned supreme over the weeb sphere anymore.
asdf
FFXV is the only FF with a definitive conclusive ending that fully ends the story, meanwhile KH3 had no ending and had to patch in a fucking epilogue which still didn't end anything, meamwhile only non canon alt timeline BONUS DLC that was never originally planned got cancelled while the canon prequel DLC for Ardyn fans requested did get made and released in 2019.
Meanwhile KH cartoon was cancelled and KH0.5 got cancelled and KH3 is full of cut content and they're releasing DLC to sell back that cut content which doesn't even address anything everyone hated about KH3.
wait till you hear that you can actually beat 95% of regular mobs in literally any non mmo ff by just mashing X through the attack commands
>fagdom farts
>not literally sonic tier autism
Nomura didnt direct TWEWY so no he didn't.
As much as Final Fantasy is responsible for movie games, I'd say Hideo Kojima is the worst thing that ever happened to vidya.
Nomura can't direct for shit.
nier literally is full of gay twinks and fuccbois the fuck you smoking?
Here are the facts:
>Square should have never fired Sakaguchi, considering Lost Odyssey is better than FF13, 14, 15, Type 0, and all KH games
>Naoki Yoshida is the best ACTIVELY WORKING director in their stable, Hiroyuki Ito is the best BENCHED director (and the best director SE currently has, even including the Dragon Quest hack and Yoko Taro)
>FF15 was better than KH3, but worse than FF12 and post-ARR FF14
>FF15 being a mess is 70% Nomura's fault, 15% SE brass's fault, and 15% Tabata's fault
>the DQ team is less talented than the FF team, but they work cohesively and gel well with each other, so they are able to compensate for individual weaknesses...the DQ games are sterile and soulless, but they're also ridiculously polished
ffxv is literally made by the same people who made all those shitty 3d sonic games.
Except it did
how?
it's not like Kingdom Hearts introduced season pass, microtransactions, or other bullshit
His designs are good when kept on a leash like FF7. The more confident he gets the worse they get.
You can add this one to the list, he made this one for the Eden VIII Raid for FFXIV Shadowbringers
No it isn't you fucking retard, the guy who made the LIGHTING ENGINE used in Sonic Unleashed and Generations was just the lead engineer on Luminous Engine and its LIGHTING, he had nothing to do with sonic itself you spastic cunt.
Meanwhile KH is sonic tier autism
Not to butt in, but why do a bunch of randos on Metacritic matter?
>Square should have never fired Sakaguchi, considering Lost Odyssey is better than FF13, 14, 15, Type 0, and all KH games
sakaguchi has made nothing but flops and smartphone "games" after leaving square, and let's not forget how he nearly bankrupted the company with that abysmal movie he directed.
>Naoki Yoshida is the best ACTIVELY WORKING director in their stable
nomura and kawazu are the best. the only thing yoshi-p has directed is a garbage mmo.
>FF15 was better than KH3
delusional.
>FF15 being a mess is 70% Nomura's fault, 15% SE brass's fault, and 15% Tabata's fault
even more delusional.
It did the generational equivalent, making you rebuy a game at full price that you already bought just to get the extra content that improves the game
And in KH1, 2 and BBSs case people in the west could only import FM or wait over 10 years until the HD port that noone at the time would ever had the notion to conceive the idea of HD ports would even be thinking about
It doesn't to me but it makes the KH fag seeth
>Nier
>The selling point is the twinks
Get your brain checked
I don't really like his work, but nah. There are way worse people at SE - especially ones in upper management.
LO is a masterpiece that sold millions of copies and, even to this day, is heralded as the best JRPG of the 7th gen.
Ok Barry.
Are you implying that a musical JRPG wouldn't be absolutely based?
XV is objectively superior to KH3 in every facet, from animation to voice acting to characters to story to enemy variety to combat variety to music to graphics to art direction to content to cutscene and dialog direction to pacing to technology and AI to villain to minigames to level design to freedom and exploration.
KH3 is absolute trash and you fucking know it, Nomura is a hack.
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>9s
>Adam
>Eve
>Emil
Yes? 9S is literally in Nier automata more than 2B is.
>Lann is totally not Roxas with a gauntlet, you guys!
Cope.
See KH2 Atlantica and the answer is a resounding no.
cope
>comic relief
>throwaway
>throwaway
>self insert
She's on the front cover for a reason.
>le 1 person boogeyman
>its the KH guy
>its the XV guy
It's all made up and you're all part of a 6 month joke!
Do you want to cringe to death?
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Just because it was done badly when it was done as a little side thing to a game doesn't mean the concept is always doomed to be trash.
Kill yourself XV-kun
Nice projecting see:
Easy to spot, it's him.
9S is the actual main character of Nier Automata, 2B is in less than 1/4 of the game and has less than 1/10th of the dialog in it
And she's holding who like Jesus? Oh yeah 9S.
It would be because Nomura is a hack.
Kill yourself KH kun
Says the KH tranny.
Reminder that the only thing people praise about KH1 and KH2 are the things Kanemori, Takahashi and Shimomura did for the game, nothing Nomura did.
And what is the fate of every twink in Automata?
Taro hates them. Just what the series needs after this abomination.
Cope and dilate
His name is not Kojima.
The best FF ever with literally less twinks than any other FF and Nier Automata?
>XV is fucking garbag-
Is what KH trannies do.
Oops forgot a retard
See
Okay Barry who hurt you on twitter today? It's 3:30am where you are, time to settle down and go to bed.
lost odyssey didn't even sell one million, let alone millions, and it was a massive flop in japan.
it also definitely wasn't the best jrpg of a generation that gave us demon's souls, nier, valkyria chronicles, resonance of fate, folklore, strange journey, trails in the sky, jeanne d'arc, the world ends with you, devil survivor 1 and 2, bowser's inside story, etrian odyssey 3, etc.
Hey guys, just wanted to stop by and say FF15 is a good video game! and so is KH3! And most other final fantasy and kingdom hearts games!
How the fuck does Nomura of all people have fans.
Thanks, user! You can go back to your bukkake circle, now!
>6 month
Try 6 years. We're never gonna be free of this FFXV cocksucker.
>Darqua wasn't permanent
KH3 was just a pile of wasted opportunities
Best are TWEWY girls.
Why is there nothing on the Gullwings?
Lost Odyssey was fucking incredible though. Hironobu Sakaguchi with Kiyoshi Shigematsu writing with translation work by Professor Rubin himself.
Like don't be a contrarian man, Lost Odyssey is a real contender.
Damn, they stuck that spear right up that rhino's ass.
>Implying i support Nomura unfinished KH3 and unfinished FF15.
i'm not saying it was bad, it just wasn't the best.
Only young noct and prompto are typical JRPG pretty boy in 15
Timeskip noct and prompto aren't and gladio, ignis and cor never were nor are their timeskip versions either, not even going into cid, verstael, regis, ardyn, etc
nier automata with 9S, adam, eve and emil is more twinks than 15 has.
Is not even in my top 30 of worst thing that ever happened
(You) for low quality effort. Come back when you actually played the entire series
kino
>is heralded as the best JRPG of the 7th gen.
What?
Check this man.
This, people have been having a pissing match over which shit smells less since 20 fucking 16.
>muh barry boogeyman
Ok KH tranny who on discord linked you to this thread to defend KH3 at 10:30 am?
WRONG, Osaka team is the worst.
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>piss match
>people
You mean RPing on an anonymous image board
Not really
Deviantart and gaia fags went to gamefags, neogaf and resetera then spread to Twitter and discord
basically they are "nu-disney" fags that all have permanent soi face
Okay, i believe you!
Tell me more about KH3 needing to patch in its ending and epilogue yet still not having an ending and thus objectively being unfinished.
But KH tranny you're the one that's been having a meltdown for 6+ years.
He was creative producer for it and helped came up with the battle system.
You honestly think the people still having the same argument for three fucking years are just being ironic?
He was creative producer on a lot of games and came up with their battle systems too, still not director
tell me more about how ffxv is guaranteed to never be finished. and also about how its mess of a story is split up across a movie, anime, dlc, novels, smartphone "games," etc.
How old are you? Oh wait its 4channel now.
KH fags are still in denial
This isn't EA or Bubsy 3D.
Look, I know people are stupid about a lot of things but when you start pretending something for three years is it really pretending or do you just have genuine autism?
He wasn’t director but he had a significant role in making the game.
>he had a significant role in making the game.
[citation needed]
Ever since Spirtis Within, Squaresoft/SE have just turned into absolute fucking cancer. In the 90s I never thought it would be possible that I'd end up hating this company so much, fucking trash.
You don't really have a high road in this scenario yourself, bud.
He was a large point of making the gene happen, dude, and considering how TWEWY is often noted for its battle system and taking advantage of the DS hardware, that’s a big part to play in. Hell, he helped research the hardware for it himself.
>Working on the title now, the experience of making the DS title It's a Wonderful World that released last year was very helpful. It's a Wonderful World from the planning stages aimed to make use of the DS's features, it became a game that utilized the functions of both screens and the touch panel only the DS has, where you could carry out a battle that was simultaneously different on the top and bottom screens. I personally researched the DS while developing It's a Wonderful World, wondering what to do to make Kingdom Hearts work on the DS. As a result, I felt the best response would be to bring the action elements natural to the Kingdom Hearts series to the DS, a reverse idea to the new directions that It's a Wonderful World took to when adjusting to the DS, furthermore I had confidence that it could be powered up and new elements could be implemented.
>As a matter of fact, I tried to make the title of It's a Wonderful World only numbers, but because it was a new series, I gave up the number title since I feared it people wouldn't remember it.
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>Kando: In the beginning the three of us kept sending game ideas and were in arguments about it.
>Arakawa: Right. I remember being chewed out by Mr. Nomura. He’d say “No, we could do this on the PSP,” or something like that. The hurdle was really high from the get-go, because we set out to create “a game that can only be played on the DS.”
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My mans its Yea Forums. Like fashion or a fad there are cycles, people are going to unironically pretend to be funny by parroting misinformation or dumb opinions and then there are those who really pretend to force conversation among randos who see the 0 reply post that might rile up an autismo. This place is community driven and it takes 1 repeated self made up post and a couple more self posts to create this type of conversation in a thread. It's the same as any other thread.
Todd is worse
Yoshi-P directed the highest rated FF game in over a decade
Tell me more over how KH3 literally will never get an ending or be finished while XV always had its definitive ending that fully finished the story for good and how the whole story is all learned in the game, meanwhile KHs clusterfuck story is spread across 3 generations of platforms across ps2, gba, psp, 3ds, ps4 phones, multiple movies and new story scenes in the games turned into movies, a fucking canon phone gatcha game that you have to grind for 300+ hours on, dlc selling back cut content, patching in a fucking epilogue that doesn't even end anything, rereleased versions with more added shit you need, and literal music concerts that added more story in addition to the manga
meanwhile all xv dlc and the anime/movie is optional side content that has no bearing on the main story in the game, and the phone thing isn't even canon or part of actual XV anything
>>Arakawa: Right. I remember being chewed out by Mr. Nomura. He’d say “No, we could do this on the PSP,” or something like that. The hurdle was really high from the get-go, because we set out to create “a game that can only be played on the DS.”
>a game that can only be played on the DS
This description is more than humorous in hindsight.
>1 + 1 = 3
>the earth is flat
>XV always had its definitive ending that fully finished the story for good and how the whole story is all learned in the game
So just like he did on 3rd Birthday which is basically entirely a Nomura game
KH3 should have been delayed 3 months so it could ship with Critical mode. Game wasn't bad but it was impossible to lose on Proud and the fights would have been infinitely more memorable on Crit.
Anyway, Nomura definitely firetrucked up KH3 in more places than one, but I still like his style of game. It feels distinctly 'video-gamey' in an era where that's heavily discouraged. His games feel like they safely belong in the early to mid 2000's and I like that feel.
>only 15-20 reviews
It isn't highest rated at all with that sample size
>Big role in developing the battle system.
>His and Kobayashi’s art direction.
You must if you're mad at me for shitting on him.
Don't drag gamefaqs into this. I was there before Yea Forums existed. It's og.
Yeah the XV thing is true, prove otherwise, how is Noctis's story not ended when he literally died restoring the dawn by becoming the king of kings which was his entire journey?
meanwhile kh3 is literally sequel bait that ends nothing
40 reviews ok?
kh3 we got should never have happened, neither should ddd or ux, bbs should have been kh3 but with a completely different story and the armored characters should have been sora, riku and kairi.
That's a funny way of spelling Sonic Team.
You are confusing me with other users.
gamefags is pure trash
Some of those are double ups, and again no still
Honestly some of its boards are better than Yea Forums. Mostly for niche games. But why would you be discussing popular games online anyway.
I see. Not sure why you responded to me then.
Blame the company and sony for dumping ps3 hardware technology and software, during the ps2 era, before gamecube, into a video game engine for strictly movies. Also using old software (same motion capture an animation technology for X and KH for scenese) and hiring overly expensive professionals who were the only retards who could help make the movie instead of hiring nobodies.
Yeah, ok bro.
They're all the protagonist you fucking sperg.
This except instead of trying to recycle that BBS garbage into something playable, it should be Re:Coded with an actual story.
those reviews are for an expansion to an mmo, not to a new FF, they reviews only reflect the expansion as its being reviewed as an expansion, not an ff
if you want ff14 true score then get the average of 1.0, arr, hw, sb and shb combined, none of the shb reviews even take into account starting a completely new game either, they're all reviews from people who've been playing it for over 6 years
Because it was all a dream and you never woke up from the delusion of a bad story and game
>implying someone didn't subdivide this area for this tweet
He helped to make TWEWY so he’s alright in my book. Not really interested in KH or FFXV, though.
So you're retarded?
Might want to check yourself before addressing others autismo
>hating the man who gave us best girl
>honorable runner up best girl tifa
Sorry mate can't do it.
It'd be more fair for an average if you took out 1.0 from the equation since you literally can't play it anymore, don't you think?
Is TWEWY good? Been thinking of trying it out on the DS.
It's pretty good but kinda overblown in Yea Forums. It's a stylish game with fantastic music and great combat, and literally nothing else.
It’s one of the best games on the system and one hell of a wild ride. Highly recommend it.
>had lead roles in great games like KH1, FFVII, FFX
Even if everything else he touches is pure cancer, I think it could be worse.
I dunno, man. I loved the character development and crazy ass plot twists.
>what is Tin Pin Slammer?
it's pretty good
The story itself is very by the numbers but it's done in an interesting fashion. The combat is incredibly unique as well.
Is he a fucking aussie? Now everything makes sense
>character development
It's good, but nothing special. It's not hard to develop characters when they start up as "enormous assholes that deserve to die" like Neku and Josh or "literal functional retard" like Beat.
>plot twist
I thought it was pretty awful. It's easy to see that Joshua ain't a normal kid from a mile away. And I literally can't forgive any game that tries to pull off a """plot twist""" as retarded as "who shot Neku" with a straight face.
The average would be 86.33
FFXV is 70.23
FFXIII is 73.77
No, Electronic Arts is.
This.
belts and bandages
Maybe by itself it isn’t special but the way the game used its mechanics to to integrate Neku’s development into the gameplay makes it pretty stand out imo.
Plus, the plot twists surrounding Shiki, Kitaniji, Beat, and Hanekoma were also pretty good imo.
Core members of TWEWY worked on XV too
Top left Hasegawa (TWEWY Co-Director), who was Art Director and Monster Art Director on Versus and XV left SE in 2019 and joined Tabata's company JP Games.
Bottom Left Arakawa (TWEWY Planning Director) who was a UI system menu designer on Versus left SE in 2012 to work on Mobile games at GREE.
Top Right Kando (TWEWY Director) is still at SE and was Animation Director on Versus, all his animations were retained in XV in the final game, then Animation Supervisor on KH3.
Nomura is a hack.
t. tranny
It counts to 14 and shb stuff literally references and uses things from 1.0
Still not interested in it, though. Battle system looks boring to me.
>holds O
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FFXV average is 82, see FF14 average is also 82
FF13 average is 76
Shiki's is the only one I agree was good. Everyone else... meh. Especially Hanekoma's, unless you mean the fact he's an angel, which is explained in postgame text reports which is by itself a huge beef that I have with TWEWY's story.
A shitty minigame that makes those dollar bin Beyblade games look good.
There was a point in time were i loved this man and thought he was the best
But then he made a bunch of dog shit KH games, then he made FF15 the most disappointing game of my life, then he made KH3 the shit cherry on top the shit cake that KH has been for the last 10 years
FUCK YOU NOMURA!
Looking forward to FF7R though
I used Comrades into the equation since it's an expansion and expansions were required for XIV's average. Comrades is also a key part of FFXV's story.
>Tin Pin Slammer
>shitty
You’re not even worthy of being a Pinprick
Cope
The story was pure dog shit
Those dlcs couldn't make it any better
It's amazing to me that FFXV fans will forever be seething about KH3
Its the opposite of cope
Do you just say any random buzzword that pops into your head when someone says something you dont like
Seething
thats you lol
FF14 1.0 has 49
ARR has 78, 83 and 86
HW has 86 and 86
SB has 87 and 89
ShB has 91 and 91
49+78+83+86+86+86+87+89+91+91= 826
826÷10 is 82
15 has 83, 81, 77, 85, and 84 when factoring in the average of the 3 scores the xb1 version of re has, so 77+81+83+84+85 = 410, 410/5 = 82
ff13 has 65, 82 and 83, so 230÷3 = 76
none of xv dlc are part of the main story and comrades is a stand alone game now at that, comrades despite its name isnt an expansion rather its a new mode entirely
like its basically the difference between uncharted 4 and uncharted 4 multiplayer but with your own silent created character
Cope
>It's a stylish game with fantastic music and great combat
So it’s already better than most of Squeenix’s catalogue.
Says the KH tranny still seething over XV ever since nomura got fired from the game
see
Are you kidding me on the DLC? Yes they are part of the Main Story. Why else do we joke about Gladio leaving?
>Where did you go?
>Oh had to take care of something, lol
Comrades especially is key because it's the connecting point between Noctis going into a coma and when he wakes up. The World didn't just go on pause.
>XV
>great combat
I hope to God that this is bait.
Thanks for proving my point.
Oh, definitely. I'd put it somewhere around KH1/2 levels of good. But I often get people saying it's a flawless masterpiece when it really, really isn't.
No, people who hate KH meaninglessly are the worst
>i hate color and disney!!!!!
>give me more brown zombie shooters! omgz resident evil borderlands zzzzz
I hate kingdom hearts so goddamn much, it's an overrated mediocre series and it's been polluting FF.
I've never seen anyone say that their favorite game is flawless
Dilate
You must be new to Yea Forums then.
No they absolutely aren't part of the main story in any capacity
Gladio leaving and getting a scar has literally nothing to do with the main story of noctis sacrificing himself on the throne as the king of kings to restore the dawn
nothing in comrades has anything to do with the actual main story either, it literally just shows you what you already know by the time it happened, it has 0 impact on the actual main story and noctis's journey, even moreso now that they made it a seperate stand alone game
fucking FF7 crisis core, before crisis count more to FF7s main story than any XV DLC does to its
It's the only SE game with good combat.
I haven't even seen it on Yea Forums, and I'm assuming most of those people would be using hyperbole anyhow
>polluting ff
Thank fuck I didnt see any ff characters in my KH3, they're the real problem and thankfully nomura doesnt want them.
FF is dead sweaty and if you want that series, wait to play their next ff mmo or continue with current one.
holy shit drink your soi
holy shit this webm is from the oinker leaker. update your webms faggot.
The only reason Noctis was able to even wake up in the first place is because the Warriors of Light got Bahamut's blessing and protected the island. If that didn't happen, Noctis would have stayed asleep.
FFXV is literally the best selling FF ever when comparing release timespans and it saved FF
kh3 fucking bombed
Finally, another Nomura thread. Hello again, Yea Forums!
Did Barry start this thread? How long has it been since he last posted here? Shouldn't he be in a cell for posting all that child porn and gorn
That invisible wall is still there
>that
>good
Sure is a lot of holding O, R1, and Triangle there.
Why lie like this? I mean, why say things that people can easily fact check and disprove?
Nope, he was able to wake up because he had finished absorbing the crystal into the ring, nothing the glaives did in the 10 years had any bearing on the main story
I genuinely wanna know how someone can shitpost about a game that long. Even if Barry unironically hated FFXV and was purely doing this to shitpost, I don't understand how someone can waste that much time and effort doing this. Working so hard to shill a product that will not benefit you at all. It's just baffled.
Hey look at this retard still shilling a retarded poorly researched video that's wrong 5 mins in and stays wrong the entire video by a retard who has no clue what he's talking about.
SEW isn't a fan of the series, he literally googled FF NPC and thought it was a FF13 NPC despite not being from FF13 yet he based his entire argument on that.
Already on his first point he is completely wrong. Insomnia literally has a wall build around it protecting it from the daemons, empire and monsters outside it, which is why it had prospered as a modern city while the rest of Lucis was run down backwater desert, grasslands and small settlements, those settlements all have the protection of the Hunter HQ which are the ones who are killing monsters and Daemons around Eos, and the entire rest of Lucis is already under Niflheim control too, that is why they had Niflheim garrisons stationed around Lucis, and where places like Lestallum and other places around Lucis are already under Niflheim jurisdiction.
You know how you are picking up Hunts during the game? Yeah guess why those hunts are being given out and by whom, and also guess who else is also doing those same things, Yep it's the Hunters from Meldacio Hunter HQ, this is pretty firmly established in the world building of the game, you can see this from the war torn areas around Lucis too, but I can already tell just from the first 5 minutes of this video that this was going to be a poorly researched and half assed video full of inaccuracies.
He completely ignored the existence of the Hunters from Hunter HQ which are stationed in every single outpost with weapon shops and gear and are in Militia gear being the ones fighting the monsters and Daemons, not to mention this is only further established in Comrades when the Hunters and remaining Kingsglaive join forces.
The fact that you are unironically shilling him just proves you have no actual fucking argument.
Yeah thank god you just got shit disney worlds which were just copies of their movies. And I don't want FF in KH either. KH has a mediocre storyline, with mediocre gameplay. It will never stack up to the best FFs, or any of them for that matter. KH3 also ended on an extremely retarded note. People like to act like it's ever been more than a 7.5/10 because nostalgia. KH is the reason XV was that way, it's the reason why everything needs to be shitty flash action now.
>saved ff
Think you're talking about XIV, did you know that THAT mmo funded XV? :)
He absorbs the crystal, but the Darkness destroys the crystal on the outside. Whoops, now Noctis is dead in the aether and the World is doomed. GG
So when's Final Fantasy 16
Even worse was his asinine claim that there is no story or purpose to the Costlemark dungeon, which he is also wrong in stating it has the "same tileset as every other dungeon" when A: It's a Solheim era dungeon and Solheim invented Magitek, and is full of Daemons, which he should know are humans and beasts turned into because of the Starscourge, with that Solheim Magitek being ancient tech from an advanced civilization, and B: of which there are only THREE dungeons in the entire game being Solheim dungeons, and of which 1 of them is only post game, on top of that only 1 of them is actually a main story dungeon with Steyliff having similar designed interior, while the Costlemark dungeon is the optional one.
But he pretends like there is no world building or history even though it's clear he really didn't pay attention to anything at all. So not only is he wrong about how it looks or its purpose but he can't even rub two brain cells together to actually see why it is the way it is, it's like he ignored the daemons and the entire Magitek originating from Solheim stuff, or ignoring how NIflheim based their Magitek from Solheim's tech which is why they have tech extremely similar to it, which is why Niflheim are stationed around Steyliff, the Solheim dungeon you go to as part of the story because they are mining Mythril from it, and also are using Daemons to create the Magitek to begin with. Like dude, did he even pay attention to anything?
Did you really not expect anything else? The series is old enough to be someone's dad. Like it or not, kh is better than any FF game other than XI and XIV
Lol.
Should have known the first three posts would be the Nomura defense force, OP
It was already proven a KH fag postsd the cp and gore after barry got banned in that thread
>Easy to spot
Anons, you haven't seen Barry without his body to keep him from typing so erratically. Seriously, it's like his psyche's under a microscope or something!
Never underestimate the power of a such a strong heart.
Nah you're fucking gay, kid. Sorry. Keyblade armor is corny as fuck, and Sora/Riku/Kairi is corny as fuck. Kingdom Hearts doesn't work without Donald and Goofy. If we're playing a Disney game, we're playing a Disney game, so suck my cock. God, you're so stupid.
Seething 18 year old
Yoshi-P's in charge, so less than 10 years
There isn't a single O hold in that entire clip
Stay invalidated
I really liked KH3, looking forward to D23 this weekend for possible ReMind news. I'm also gonna leave this thread immediately, all KH threads on Yea Forums are shit
KH has always been rated mid 80s.. No KH game is better than any FF sorry. 5-12 blow every KH out of the water.
I don't care for XV but Super Eyepatch Wolf's videos are awful.
I'm fucking 30. Most of the FF series is better than any KH game.
Why? I think he does a god job explaining himself and having actual sources and evidence.
But you are in denial over facts
FF7 sold 6.57m in 2 years
FFXV sold 8.4m in 2 years
FF7 didnt hit 9m until 5 years after release
FFXV hit 9m 2 years 6 months after release
FF7 and FF15 are the only FFs to have hit 9m+, XV is outpacing FF7 sales by years
Stay seething zeal you cunt
Wait, what proof was there? I'm sorry, I don't believe I got the memo.
Also, to continue on from , Barry's Nobody is much more interesting to watch. He has a Discord, a cult-like Twitter following, and everything! Like the friends Barry will never have!
Still doesn't excuse the lying, white supremacy sympathy, and SQEX employee impersonation, though. It's fucked up the wazoo.
>But you are in denial over facts
But KH3 didn't bomb, it was the best-selling game in the series
Why lie like this? I mean, why say things that people can easily fact check and disprove?
>le xv/kh boogeyman
See SEW didn't source a single thing, he literally lies and makes shit up and retards fall for it every time because of his soi whisper voice
KH3 is less fun, less immersive, and less interesting / disappointing than even XV, faggot
Then again, he worked on both
FF7 came out at a time when only nerds and college kids played vidya, compared to now when almost everyone has a console of some kind.
FF14 makes less money than the ffxv mobile game does
And XIV didnt fund shit, other mobile stuff funded xiv and xv
That's fair, I admittedly didn't play much of FF15
>12
Your opinion is discarded, delete every post you made on this thread immediately.
>didn't source a single thing, he literally lies and makes shit up
You do this every day
FFXV is one of those games that don't sit well with you the more you think about it. The "Epic" road trip is about the length of 30 minutes if you don't make constant stops, you only have about two sort of big but not really areas to explore that don't really have all that much in them, and most of the map was cut down to the point that you spent the second half of the game on literal rails.
Not to mention how disconnected you are from everything, you only see Noctis' "Love" maybe two or three times, and everything else like the occupation of Insomnia and the happenings of the Empire happen in the background.
Its not a bad game, but its not really great either. I feel like it had too many Prima donna directors to get the game going proper.
People can say what they want about Kingdom Hearts, but at least Tetsuya Nomura was allowed to just go autistic on a franchise for a handful of games.
Sure there isn’t, Barry.
Are you fucking retarded? He absorbs the crystals light but Ardyn had taken the crysyal to insomnia and hung it in the throne room after noct had absorbed its light
the glaives had no involvement in anything noctis did and he woke up because he finished absorbing the light of the crystal
Pride. I'm assuming there's a bit of "I'm pretending to be retarded" as well.
Stop.
You watched a 52min video in 8 minutes?
>he just didn't pay attention to the game's genius
Care to defend the phoenix down system in this game?
>he claims against a video that has gameplay footage where as his inane rambles didn't source a single thing
The fact that barry posts got deleted earlier in the thread while that gore cp posts didnt get deleted means barry didnt post that otherwise they would have been deleted when he got banned
typical zoomie can't comprehend anything that isn't button mashy flare shit
>FF14 makes less money than the ffxv mobile game does
To be fair, that mobile game makes more money than the rest of the franchise combined, maybe two times over.
Oh, and in case you're wondering, I'm not him. Why on Earth would I start acting like I work for Square Enix when really, I'm a team member in a Sonic fangame?
Context for anons who don't know who Zeal is:
(pic related) is the 'boogeyman' that XV-kun fights against the hardest. He's a lying sack of shit who sows false hope amongst Versusfags (such as myself).
That just makes me all the more disappointed that he and Takahashi were so deprived from being able to make their babies in the first place. Honestly, even though I actually enjoyed XV very much, I found myself pining for Versus whenever the iconography showed itself.
It's just too sad, really. Like with governments and the people that rule them, game companies should exist and bend to the wills of creative producers and directors. Without them, companies and governments are nothing!
More like
>XV thread : o posts replies
>kh thread: o posts and replies
BUT IF YOU
>GAME SUCKS : 200 REPLIES
>WASNT THIS IDIOT BAD: 166 REPLIES
>HOW CAN THIS DEVELOPER MAKE GAMES : 231 REPLIES
Force threads
>lumping in sekiro, dmc5 and p5 with garbage like kh3, ffxv and the shitfest that ff7 is undoubtedly going to be
KH3 is not known for selling well to begin with so that is not an achievement, also it was only fastest selling within the launch timeframe, kh2 and kh1 still sold more
not only that but any report after SE said that at KH3s launch are only accounting for US only, not worldwide
Can we at least agree that Kingsglaive was pure kino, and Sean Bean and Aaron Paul were great casting choices?
>Who is Junichi Masuda
>Who is Hideo Kojima
>Who is older Shigeru Miyamoto
>Who is Keiji Inafune
>garbage mmo
Shadowbringers was the best Final Fantasy project released since FFXII, and will continue to be so for the next decade that it takes to shit out FFXVI.
>KH3 is not known for selling well to begin with
Yes it is, it's been well documented as the best-selling game in the series. Nomura has posted about it numerous times.
>And XIV didnt fund shit, other mobile stuff funded xiv and xv
They said in their financials that:
>XIII's sequels helped fund ARR
>XIV's subs and sales funded XV
>Mobile funds the company as a whole
>XV's sales funded itself's DLC after release
This is all public info btw
>Moving goalposts
Have you never played Comrades? Because it sounds like you haven't
The movie was crap up until the Nyx saved Lunafreya and the fighting really started, and even then it was a let down that detracted from the game itself.
you mean this thread? obvious content warning if no one in the thread has seen it before:
boards.fireden.net
Thankfully at least first post was saved in this thread
That's Yea Forums 4u
Lmao nope
>Is it safe to assume that this is the most expensive game ever made, if account for the entire development cycle, before you took over?
>Tabata: No, it's not, even including that. From what I've heard, we're nowhere near what Destiny or Grand Theft Auto V [cost].
>But Destiny's budget is projected over a ten-year timeline.
>Tabata: I suppose if you consider it from when we started Versus XIII, we've been at it for ten years as well. The budgets for all of our projects are controlled quite strictly, but on a company level, so it's not been allowed to go that far out.
gamespot.com
Destiny budget is confirmed $140m in pic related
FF7 budget is confirmed as $145m-226m
Here is Squaresoft stating FF7 sold 5.16m by Dec 24th 1997, it released in Jan 1997.
web.archive.org
Here is Squaresoft official statement that FF7 sold 6.57m by Jan 1999, 2 years after release.
web.archive.org
Here is SE state XV hit 5m on day 1 and is the fastest selling FF game
dualshockers.com
Here is Tabata stating XV broke even on day 1
>G: There has been a lot of speculation on how many copies the game needed to sell to break even. Are we there yet? Did Final Fantasy XV break even and is now into profitable territory?
>HT: Of course, we broke even on day one.
dualshockers.com
Here is official report confirming XV was close to 6.6m by Nov 2017
twitter.com
Here is SE confirm XV hit 8.4m by Nov 2018, 2 years after release
jp.finalfantasy.com
And now it's at 9m+
No I watched it when he first put it out and have been calling out retards like you that shill it despite him literally being wrong about everything he says in the entire video.
Already on his first point he is completely wrong. Insomnia literally has a wall build around it protecting it from the daemons, empire and monsters outside it, which is why it had prospered as a modern city while the rest of Lucis was run down backwater desert, grasslands and small settlements, those settlements all have the protection of the Hunter HQ which are the ones who are killing monsters and Daemons around Eos, and the entire rest of Lucis is already under Niflheim control too, that is why they had Niflheim garrisons stationed around Lucis, and where places like Lestallum and other places around Lucis are already under Niflheim jurisdiction.
You know how you are picking up Hunts during the game? Yeah guess why those hunts are being given out and by whom, and also guess who else is also doing those same things, Yep it's the Hunters from Meldacio Hunter HQ, this is pretty firmly established in the world building of the game, you can see this from the war torn areas around Lucis too, but I can already tell just from the first 5 minutes of this video that this was going to be a poorly researched and half assed video full of inaccuracies.
He completely ignored the existence of the Hunters from Hunter HQ which are stationed in every single outpost with weapon shops and gear and are in Militia gear being the ones fighting the monsters and Daemons, not to mention this is only further established in Comrades when the Hunters and remaining Kingsglaive join forces.
The fact that you are unironically shilling him just proves you have no actual fucking argument.
Man too bad the game isn't very good
Modern FF is a meme
So you can't cite your claims nor defend the phoenix down system?
ff7 remake won't make mistakes xv did like tabata telling them to make it less like a video game..7 is gonna be great
Yes, the barry posts earlier in the thread all got deleted when he was banned but none of that gore cp did, meaning barry didn't post that stuff because it would have been deleted too when barry got banned
seeth
cope
So you literally ignored that he used a NPC design not even from FF13 as evidence of FF13 having good world building through NPC design?
He never said that, he just said to focus on making the animations for the monsters realistic FIRST before making it game like, they are all inherently gamelike, also enemies in the FF7R trailer like sahagin and sweeper lack hitstun when cloud hits them with basic attacks
>So you literally ignored that he used a NPC design not even from FF13 as evidence of FF13 having good world building through NPC design?
He didn't tho. Save the copypasted ramblings if you're not gonna cite yourself or try to justify the points SEW makes about combat and phoenix down being garbage.
Finally, some patrician taste! If Versus/XV were released as Nomura had enivisioned which most likely would have been in accordance with the Ferrari storyboards as seen in (pic related), it probably would have occupied same power space as XII, XIV 2.0 and beyond, and Bravely Default Flying Fairy.
All of these, however, occupy a power space just below V. Not only is it a fantastic game, but it's also the most quintessentially Final Fantasy out of all of them.
And with that, Zeal's Heartless, known as Barry, outs himself. And his next line is most probably kys KHfag, for lack of originality.
This one user (boards.fireden.net
>Ever doubting Tetsuya Nomura
I hope you are ready to apologize. Final Fantasy VII Remake looks absolutely incredible. With how godly FF 7 Remake is shaping up, makes me even more sad we will NEVER get Nomura's Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Yes he did, did you even watch the video you're trying to shill?
Did I step on an autism landmine?
I have and he doesn't. A timestamp shouldn't be difficult to find if you're so convinced.
XIV is the worst FF
>Literally every dungeon is a hallway with ironclad linearity
>Literally every boss is just a dude in a circular arena
>Everything related to PvP is shit
>Open world zones are tiny, empty, have nothing going on, and are separated by loading screens
>Zero player choice in character building (stat choice, skill choice, talents, gear choice, etc.)
>Gear is universally boring (No gear sets, no unique effects, etc.)
>Classes are completely amateurish in their design (combos that only exist to be done in perfect sequence, two separate abilities like Demon SSlice > demon Slaughter that could be done with a single proc, etc.)
>Boring questing with awful instancing, unlike TESO/GW2/etc with unique instanced zones only for questing
>Over-complicated crafting which is ultimately just as meaningless as WoW's because it only exists to make catch-up gear and consumables
>Shitty graphics looks worse than early PS3 games
>Barely any voice acting
>Worse than PS2 tier animation
>Constant dissonance between gameplay and narrative
>Extremely unpolished
>Shit just fades in or out on screen, no actual animation to make it feel like a believable world being interacted with
>Shit MMO hotbar "gameplay"
>Empty areas with nothing to do
>Tons of immersion and lore breaking, inconsistencies, retcons, asspulls and other generic shounen tier shit
>Nonsense lore and garbage forgetable characters that no one even knows the names of
XIV is trash and it needing 4 fucking expansions of backstory, lore, development etc just to lead to ShB just makes it worse. Not a single person who jumped straight to ShB has said its good, the only people shilling it pretending ShB is good are XIV fags who've been subbed to it for 6+ years and have stockholm syndrome for pouring 6 years of their life and money investment of hundreds of dollars into into it. Yoshida said you could jump right into ShB but NOPE, please pour 300 hours of your life into shit just to get to more shit.
He helped make TWEWY so his shitty writing in KH is collateral as far as I'm concerned.
Hi Falk.
No it isn't
KHBBS, DDD, Days, Coded all sold less than 1-2m
They never said XIV funded XV especially when XV got its budget before ARR even launched so it literally couldn't have.
user, that exploded years ago the moment he threatened to rape someone simply for shitposting against him. Re:MINDer in (pic related)
I'm sorry, who is Falk? If that's a member of the 'Order' of 'Versus' Discord that doesn't exist anymore, I'm someone else who got kicked out, though.
Have you? It literally has no bearing on anything in the story and is less important to XV than Crisis Core or Before Crisis are to FF7
those storyboards are 95% exactly what final xv ended up being
It was literally one of the first fucking points he brings up in his autistic bullshit about world building and NPCs you dumb cunt
Falk is a member of music side on Sonic fan games like sonic BTS music and also is a sound engineer that worked on various SE games like KH1.5, 2.5, 2.8 and XV too
In fact the menu music remix of prelude was done by him
I haven't been on these threads before. Holy shit what a fucking schizo.
twewy has shitty writing though
That picture is a falseflagging KH fanboy trying to create a fake boogeyman to attack
Well then you literally find me a timestamp very easily if it's in the first 5 minutes, can't you?
Nigga, the remake ain't an action game. The action aspect of the combat is VERY basic. The game flows in a way that it encourage you to use the ATB for abilities (to fill up stagger meter) and spells (for damage) instead of just mashing or holding square, hence why the ATB meter shoots like a motherfucker with each hit. It wants you to use them. You go in expecting it to be played like KH2, then I'd say that you WILL be dissapointed. Though to spice it up, I'd rather the stance change (triangle command) to be changed into heavy attacks.
You say that, and yet you have none of the chuuni juxtaposition and balance between the humorous, comfy light-hearted bro road trip and the grimdark, somber central conflicts that Nomura would have portrayed as he did in KH, and as his Versus staff members had portrayed in TWEWY even when he was merely producing.
What we got was a heavily sanitized version of the Ferrari storyboards that had no tone, no emotional engagement with the world in which Noctis lived (which is what Takahashi makes sure to do with his protags, BTW), no 'real' stakes and deontological conflicts Noctis would have between staying alive and letting the world stay in darkness vs. saving the world at the cost of dying, no chemistry between Noctis and Faux-Stella beyond what was seen in flashbacks in Brotherhood, no Reality upon which the Fantasy is based upon, the list of cutbacks goes on. (pic related) is my last spoilered point in this paragraph brought to life by Nomura's rendition of Carbuncle (which thankfully did get used in the final game).
Oh, Falk Au Yeong! That guy. I envy him--if only I could get so close to SEGA while remaining the Sonic fan that I am.
That reminds me, if there's anything I'm pining for more than Versus XV and all 6 episodes of Xenogears Perfect Works, it's Sonic Adventure 3. Yes, 06 exists, but it's more appropriate to call it Sonic Adventure REBOOT than anything else.
Post your address
Person who played FF7R demo at Gamescom said its downgraded already from the E3 trailers and looks worse than FFXV too.
forum.beyond3d.com
>On the other hand, the graphics already looked downgraded from what we see in the trailers. They had some sort of a grainy look about them and Cloud's hair had a lot of aliasing, which was distracting. Overall it looked like an early PS4 title, not some next gen title. I hope it was because the monitors were shitty and/or it looks better when released. A FFXV in image quality this is not otherwise.
OH NO NO NO
So you didn't even watch the video you're shilling
Fuck off cunt
FF7R is literally an action RPG and they have always said it has action combat
Honestly? I'm just waiting for Nomura/Kitase to confirm an Active version of the battle system where there's no time slowdown.
I mean like, could be Active Dimension Battle--the best hybrid turn-based/action battle system FF has used--in a much more refined form, and and I am here for it, as I was when the best numbered FF game got its remaster two years ago.
Compared to KH, TWEWY comes off as better in comparison.
>XV in image quality
XV looked like shit on the PS4.
It would appear it is you that didn't watch the video because he doesn't do that. Since you admittedly only watched it when he first published it maybe your memory is fuzzy. I'm also waiting on you to defend the games combat system and phoenix downs.
>Cloud's hair had a lot of aliasing, which was distracting
It was not distracting, stop fucking lying
So you're just projecting your own dumbassery
That is not Nomura art you lying fuck, that's Hasegawa art because HE designed XV carbuncle and the monsters and summons, none of that fanfic shit you said ever existed in nomuras cancelled version either
your house
Having played it on base during launch, can confirm. Gamescom most likely used base models--and even KH3 looked much worse during prerelease playable demos than it did now (ALSO in the hair, I believe).
user, that's what happens when you allow creators to let loose and just produce whatever they want on a budget you limit for them.
There's a reason why I call TWEWY Chrono Trigger for Zoomers (even if TWEWY and CT aren't all that mechanically similar), and yes, I know at least one person will take issue with that.
I just got my bachelors in East Asian Art and Media and Game Design just last year, and you're explaining to me how line weights, ways by which the pupils of eyes are drawn, and crosshatching abuse work? Take multiple seats before you get rangebanned again.
FUCK I meant to say base PS4 models, I apologize. That's where FFXV's hair was most grainy--I imagine it'd be the same here for FFVIIR.
It looked great while FF7R looks worse than XV according to that person who played the latest gamescom build.
So not only are you lying but you are in denial about getting BTFO.
Oh, I’m not complaining about KH’s story. I still enjoy it for the wild ride but I just think that TWEWY has better writing compared to it.
So you're blind and can't even recognize artstyle that is 100% inherently hasegawa's? fucking retard
Are you gonna threaten to rape me as well?
Barry absolutely destroying e-celebs
Ahem *ting ting ting ting ting*
A-AHEM *ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting*
I THINK TABATA SUCKS
>turns the best FF game since FFXII into a GTA bro trip sim
>has literally NO sense of tone, soul, taste or music except for the Versus
>FFXV ships as a LITERALLY unfinished game
>All DLC cancelled and Tabata is BTFO by Square after losing $33 million thanks to Luminous
>Which, by the way, is CONFIRMED still working on a PS5 exclusive
>Nomura CONFIRMED reviving Versus XIII and teasing us with Verum Rex, which is, in Nomura's words a separate project in spite of many visual similarities though singlehandedly ruining any and all XV discourse through his own salt
Lmao completely fucking anally devastated, not long before XV-kun, Barry and Bazztek, are finally put in their place. We won the long game Versus lads or shall I say Versus CHADS.
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Stop fucking SLANDERING Zeal Stellafag for all you know he might be telling the truth and using some lies to cover his tracks
Wouldn't you do the same if you were a SQEX employee working on VS to keep your fucking JOB
Says the falseflagger tranny
Fuck off Zeal you retarded cunt
Versus was a failure while XV is the most successful single player FF ever
Destroying them so well that he can't even defend the actual gameplay in his game or provide a timestamp for an argument SEW didn't make
that looks like shit (which is appropriate, since it's a shit game). ff7 remake looks kino regardless of what some random guy on a message board says.
felt fine to me, nothing was too convoluted or anything
Nope, it is kino while FF7R is confirmed to look like shit
which ps2 game is this?
See >So BTFO he now lies that sew never said those things and deflects to phoenix downs, ignoring that they cost less in older FFs and have methods of auto raising in older FFs in addition to ignoring the only way to get gil to buy Phoenix downs in XV is by doing sidequests out of your way just to grind gil
>ignoring the time gone by using Phoenix down by cheesing instead of playing normally and beating things faster more efficiently
Stay BTFO once again
Looks like a PS4 game
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Ugh, you people make me sick! Can't you just fuck off over to your echo chambers and break them open once you realize you're being had like I've been trying to tell people on these boards time and again? People almost died in that Discord
Line weights, boy, line weights! Or alternatively, who just got his BA in East Asian Art and Media and Game Design, me or you?
Low blow, man. Low blow.
You're fucking retarded, it's literally Hasegawa's art and that style is identical to his artwork he did in 2016 here too, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I bet you think that fanart of stella you posted was by Nomura too.
Nu-mura is trash and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything anymore, he used to be kinda good though.
Reminder that FF XIV has been closely following the plot of Kingdom Hearts so far. NOMURAAAAAAA
retard
I know for a fact that the drawing it's not Nomura's. I have the source artwork right here. It even features FF:U characters--something Squeenix will never actually do (unless you're Akitoshi Kawazu).
Also, having seen that Behemoth illustration up close now, I can confirm that it still isn't it, I'm afraid.
But enough. I'm going off to bed. This doesn't mean you win--it just means that you only wasted your time. Good night, Barry.
>so fucking upset that he fabricates arguments and starts having an emotional breakdown when you ask him to cite what he is rambling against, like asking for a timestamp
>playing the game without ignoring certain features is now considered "cheesing"
You're samefagging is obvious and you're copypasted arguments are inane because you're establishing strawmen to argue down. Give me quotes. Give me timestamps. If you're going to claim your ramblings are rebuttals then show what you're rebutting. Here's your chance to step up and show me how this deconstruction is wrong and FFXV gets unfair criticism.
do people forget what PS2 games look like now
genuinely asking. People called Three Houses a PS2 game when that's clearly the graphics of an early 3DS game.
It literally is by Hasegawa you dumb cunt, ignoring the fact that for XV Carbuncle was only created after Episode Duscae released in 2015, ignoring the fact that Hasegawa is the monster designer and also had been since Versus, ignoring the fact that the art of Carbuncle looks identical to Hasegawa's artstyle, you are seriously this fucking blind? The fucking flowy tail lineart on carbuncle alone gives it away as hasegawa you dumb fuck.
But you're the only one lying here and ignoring the video getting BTFO from the first fucking points he tries to make
You have literally been BTFO this entire thread and clearly didnt even watch the very video you try to shill
See
The gradients look like what nomura would do, and yet like you says it has that flowy tail but it's also likely that both you and are wrong cos I honestly think could be both
What does BTFO mean, I keep seeing it in this thread, what's it supposed to do?
>>>>>>>>>
lurk 2 years before posting
No they don't, it isn't Nomura's art at all, it is inherently Hasegawa's art and the lineart alone gives it away
It's like trying to say this Noct and carbuncle art by Nakaaki is by Nomura
Nakaaki, never heard of this guy before, could you keep his drawings and hasegawa's drawings coming
This is sad. No wonder you're mocked.
Star Citizen and late capitalism destroying P.T. and Ion Fury exist.
Oof, thanks user. What the heck does Barry have to gain by telling people they're BTFO? IS it his goal to get people to only say good things about 15? Does he want people to shut up so he can rule over this board forever? He has to accept that not everyone shares the same opinions as him. he can't possibly be this triggerable.
>still btfo
>>still btfo
Comparing FFXV to a turn based RPG is supposed to make FFXV look good?
The Xigbar = Luxu twist was great. Shame the rest of the game wasn't
Nakaaki is a character designer and artist at SE, he did the artwork for Sigma Harmonics
>No it isn't
>KHBBS, DDD, Days, Coded all sold less than 1-2m
I don't see what that has to do with KH3 being the best-selling game in the series, user
cope
Tetsuya Nomura > bazztek
When the vid you're defending literally tries to do the opposite?
Well it isn't, its only best selling in the US, it was only fastest selling at launch, fastest selling is a time and context sensitive statement, KH3 was only fastest selling at launch.
how long has barry been at this now? how many years?
rent free
Please put the goalposts back in their proper position when you're done.
And Hasegawa has more monster artwork in the artbook by him which have the same artstyle as his carbuncle artwork
he doesn't even exist
the kh fags have been obsessed over fake boogeyman for over 5 years now
kh3 is not the best selling kh worldwide
He first cropped up around 2013. By 2014 he was well known on Yea Forums for derailing any and all threads that even mentioned XV in any way.
He's also a notorious liar by pretending not to exist even though he spams the same copypasta and images over and over.
Case in point, delusional Nomura shills falseflagging again
It's the best-selling game in the series.
dualshockers.com
Like I said, why make up lies that can be easily proven wrong? I don't get it.
See and you can pull up multiple sources that say the same thing.
Please, show me some evidence that it isn't the best-selling game in the series. I welcome it.
okay now i know why Stellafag thinks Carbuncle is done by nomura, it's the shiny gradiented coloring and the pupils (point there) but the line weight is very much Hasegawa (point to you too)
>Barry has been obsessively shitposting for half a decade
I genuinely hope he realizes how sad this crusade is one day
>pretending not to exist even though he spams the same copypasta and images over and over.
that's the biggest evidence that it is multiple people though
the biggest evidence that it's the same person is he has a very particular writing style that is hard to imitate.
Nope, in US only, NPD is US only, not worldwide
Stay retarded
Btw, now that most of us probably are older than 20, can we all admit that Square's writing has never really been top notch?
I booted up FF 7 after 11 years, but after 20 hrs I couldn't stand it, especially after playing the shit out of games such as Hashino's Personas and even crpgs such as Planescape:Torment.
Sounds like every nomura fag in this thread
Autists never change though. They never get any better.
It doesn't say anything about US only, it just says it's the best-selling game in the history of the franchise
Why even tell lies that people can easily prove wrong, user?
VII is a game that tells the story through setpieces not through particularly interesting writing with the exception of Cloud
it's also been imitated like one hundred times over
>FFXV's combat was straight up shi-
user it's simple, just link the Kingdom Hearts game that sold more than KH3. Since it wasn't the best-selling title (according to you) you can obviously prove that, right?
NPD is US only, are you retarded? The link literally says ACCORDING TO NPD which is a US only sales tracker
Why are you so fucking stupid trying to talk about shit you know nothing about? You're the only one lying here.
ting all over KH by how based it is
KH2 sold 6m
KH1 sold 8m
KH3 is still only at 5m
You won't get an answer. He'll just deflect and/or strawman you like always.
This.
user, what game sold better than KH3 in the franchise? Please, I'm waiting for an answer. Stubbornly claiming others are wrong isn't proving anything.
Can you prove that? I can't find anything to back that up
See
You can stop samefagging now.
>Source: Trust me bro
Well, true, maybe the fact that in my country (average european kne where gaming only ended up existing after the PS1) many think of it as "the greatest rpg ever made" and stuff like that.
I even tried to re-play through the first hours of Chrono Trigger (probably the most significant 20 hrs of gaming of my early teenhood), but after this FF 7 "experiment" I'm kinda scared of ruining some of the most memorable experiences in gaming I've ever had
>mfw watching KHfags and FFfags argue with eachother
Both of your games are casualshit for dumb asian children
p-pls no bulli DQ-san
Tabata is a shit.
It's really sad to waste time in threads for games you don't play
This is probably why you have no friends
>He fell for the 'KH is casual' meme
>yfw i'm shitposting to pass time before meeting up with my gf to go out with friends
Nah we're just having fun laughing at ol' bazztek having another autism fit.
That's still sad, user. You could be playing video games or something.
Based.
That's okay mate we're finished so you can come pick her up now.
I just told you that, KH1 sold 8m and KH2 sold 6m
KH3 is still only at 5m
Here is what SE said in August 2018 about KH3
>Having surpassed 5 million shipments and digital sales following its launch earlier this year
Now here is what SE said about KH3 in February during its launch at the end of January/Start of February 2019
> SQUARE ENIX® proudly announces that KINGDOM HEARTS III, the latest mainline entry in the beloved action RPG series, has shipped more than five million units globally, both physically and digitally, across all platforms since its January 29 release, making it the fastest selling game in the history of the series.
Note that fastest selling is only because they decided to ship 5m units to retailers that bought stock at launch period, it no longer applies and as you can see they shipped 5m units at launch and counted any digital sales on top of that shipped units as being over 5m shipped and digital sold
Then by August 2019 they just reworded the same thing saying KH3 surpassed 5m shipped and digital sales which means it has not actually sold more than 5m, as that 5m number was for shipped units to retailers, not customers
In addition this is ONLY talking about the US only as NPD only tracks US, in addition they track revenue not actual units sold, they estimate units sold from revenue made, since games cost more now than they did on PS2 no shit it makes more revenue even if it sold the same amount, hence them saying "best selling" which is not actually even about unit sales but just by revenue and for the US only.
KH1 sold 6m on PS2
square-enix.co.jp
KH1.5 sold 1m on PS3 and 1m on PS4 too, making KH1 sales 8m
he's better than nomura
and since making this kh3 has a lower mc average than xv does too
Why do you only have sources for some of this stuff and not others? Also
>FM counts now
Also you didn't even bother finding KH2 numbers.
Wow you're a faggot, Barry.
That entire clip is literally just pressing 1 button.
August 2019*
>He's a lying sack of shit who sows false hope amongst
I'm well aware Zeal is a lying cunt, but still VersusXV is an actual thing
>VersusXV is an actual thing
>Here's absolutely no evidence to prove it
Plus he included the HD collections into them to bump up the numbers. Disingenuous as fuck.
You can't even do any research on your own you sperging fuck
And KH3 DLC adds more sale value to KH3 same way any FM version did for themselves
>Frame Perfect pressing of one button over and over
Nice webm
You can pretend all you want Barry but that shit was disingenuous as fuck as pointed out
Are all FF and KH threads this autistic?
Worst JRPGs, worst fanbase. Who knew.
>I don't like these franchises, that's why I clicked on this thread
Kinda your own fault, senpai
I still like FF and go to Nomura threads out of a morbid curiosity
Then why did you say
>Worst JRPGs
The only actually bad ones I've played were KH games.
FF are merely lesser than their brethren.
People can enjoy bad things. Barry should know.
The thread was started by a shitposter, what did you expect?
>No no, I hate KH so that's why I clicked on this KH thread
I mean, still seems like your fault
He's ok when he was someone sat on him stopping him doing stupid shit. His Eden concepts in FFXIV has been fine so far.
>I am blind
Seek an oculist
See
>go to Nomura threads out of a morbid curiosity
Well?
Then why are you surprised that autism happens there
This still seems like your fault, even more now
>2k19
>Bazztek still hasn't gotten over his gamefu being stuck in mediocricy
At least provides with entertaining threads
That's not Junichi Masuda.
>Look at all this theorycrafting and speculation
Do you guys know what evidence is or what
Because somebody STOP me
Just go play video games you like instead of going to threads for things you hate
In fact that goes for everyone here in this thread
It isn't and that image has been debunked ages ago
That Nyx realtime thing was a Nvidia tech test made in 10 days that is using movie assets in real time using supercomputer parts that are not in regular retail, that was just to show what ps6 or ps7 graphics could look like by rendering CGI movie assets in realtime
Yes you are blind.
Fuck off Zeal how fucking retarded are you?
This was taken directly from the TGS (which falls on September 12th to 15th) press kit according to the user who got it, then that user posted it, then it got deleted.
>muh boogeyman rent free
more sales than any other FF in the same timespan so nope
>This was taken directly from the TGS (which falls on September 12th to 15th) press kit according to the user who got it
See this is what I have a problem with. The evidence is literally a Yea Forums post. and the source is "dude, trust me"
You mean the lying sack of shit Stellafag mentioned above? Nope, not him, sorry. If you think I'm familiar, I wrote this post, though—
No it wasn't, SE did not make any TGS press kit when you posted that a few weeks ago Zeal, its obvious you posted it on /vg/ first Zeal. Fuck off Zeal you spastic fuck
See Fuck off Zeal
Well, that's interesting. A prior response from me to someone else somehow counts as evidence. What other proof do you have that I'm Zeal?
Not him but you're getting super defensive about it, makes me think you're Zeal now too.
That is literally an image of timeskip noctis from the main game with basic text overlayed that anyone can fucking do, why are you falling for Zeal's obvious bullshit? He always makes fake versus or xv or ff "leaks" pretrending to be an insider prior to game events, he's done this for MULTIPLE YEARS and then when the event comes and goes he deletes any post on his twitter he ever made about it. He's a fucking larper that pretends to be a SE dev one day and an "insider" the next, Zeal literally tried to claim he worked on Versus AND CHRONO TRIGGER
Fuck off Zeal.
Zeal on suicide watch
Based.
>not an Area 51 conspiracy nut who believes in other conspiracy nuts like Paul Joseph FUCKING Watson and the Clinton Body Count people
>actually wants Vic Mignogna taken down like the sack of shit that he is
>not white, and am conscious about spelling
There's my evidence. Not reading his tweets is self-care, holy fuck.
NuDisney is not Disney
Will we ever get a good sequel of ff type zero? Honestly the most interesting ff in recent times.
>theorycrafting and speculation
So you really have vision problems.
But don't worry, here: I made it so clear that even a literal blind person could easily see it:
Square-Enix needs too stop put him on very project at the same time in different cities.
See Stop falling for Zeal's shit, he posted that pic to /vg/ claiming it was from a "tgs press kit that then suddenly got deleted right after he saw it", then zeal responded to that post with an image he posted on the same exact day with the same exact unusual dimensions on his Twitter
>still being retarded
DLC had to fill shit in, no amount of denial and semantics will change that.
>Here, I'l show you the theorycrafting and speculation again
I don't see how this changes anything, user. Especially when this is just a Yea Forums post someone swears is legit.
>It isn't and that image has been debunked ages ago
How?
>That Nyx realtime thing was a Nvidia tech test Gee, I really wonder what were they making that tech demo for! And guess what, they just happened to choose a subject that would confirm a prior "fake" leak!
FF Type1/Next was being made after Type0 came out but before they merged them with the Versus team to make XV team in mid 2012, so it was only in prepro for around 6-7 months before being put on hold, then in 2014 when type0HD was greenlit they decided to add a CG bonus ending scene that uses FF Type1/Next concept, but it was just a concept nothing was set yet, now that Tabata left unless other Luminous Productions devs want to make it it'll most likely be shelved forever
>That is literally an image of timeskip noctis from the main game with basic text overlayed that anyone can fucking do, why are you falling for Zeal's obvious bullshit? He always makes fake versus
Because if it was Zeal, he would've already bragged about that pic to everyone on twitter, instead until now he didn't utter a single word about it, like he didn't even know about its existence
See The Nvidia guy literally said HE asked Tabata 10 days ago to throw something toghther for them to show, SE were never making it on their own volition you dumb cunt
Zeal brags!? What the fuck. Now I wanna know what fake leaks he posted here before. Can anyone make me some sauce, please?
He did, he posted a picture of "world of the versus epic" on his twitter and posted that same exact image with the same dimensions in response to the pic being posted on /vg/
not only that but zeal is the only retard trying to keep using "true" as some kind of important term and keeps spouting it
>muh zeal
Just like Kagari? badonkadonk? KH-kun? Lightningfag? Neithof? SBK? Like the countless otherboogeyman you've been talking about?
arch.b4k.co
Reminder that XV-kun has shitposted against
>Xenoblade X
>all other FF games
>hates other XV fans
>KH
>DMC
>RE2
>The Witcher 3
>some other games that people mentioned on /vg/ but the only archives left for it don't allow searches
Sorry, I guess it was unfair of me to think that just enlarging a picture could magically bring eyesight back to a blind person.
No, he isn't Hajime Tabata.
zeal made that fake versus leak where there was a street drug in insomnia that noct was hooked on, he literally linked to the thread on his twitter as if he just stumbled upon it
zeal deleted every twitter post he ever made a few months ago so shit he did years ago he deleted to hide the evidence
user, it's literally all speculation from some user who swears it's real. It's not evidence. Why do you pretend it is?
he also shitposted against persona 5, sekiro, monster hunter, and probably countless other games.
based
Oh shit. An actual bazztek thread, huh? Been a while since I've seen one of these shit shows.
Fuck off Zeal you retarded cunt
Stop trying to hide your tracks and pretrending those other faggots didnt all exist either
in fact neithof literally shits on you all the time on gamefaqs and always reminds people that you zeal are psxotaku which is the account you use on ganefaqs
See
Nope, that was you KH fag falseflagging
>I-it's you actually
You're a sad persona, Barry. SE won't thank you for giving your life to this
Not whoever that is but
>>actually wants Vic Mignogna taken down like the sack of shit that he is
There is nothing proving Vic did anything wrong and one of the people most vocal against him is a female VA who has been told by her own PR not to post on twitter because she's fucking insane.
Fuck off Zeal.
What's sadder is you pretending to be a writer at SE that worked on versus and Chrono trigger with nojima and kato, but you like to keep changing your profile now don't you zeal?
>Actually YOU'RE Zeal
Ok
Fuck off back to twitter and gamefaqs with the rest of your butt buddies.
Just end me now, type zero has been the first ff in a very long time that made me interested in the series again or at least that line of the series since I didn't really enjoy ff15. But now we're doomed to never have a sequel to type zero even though there is so much potential in a full sequel to it.
I think you might just suffer from some rare kind of neurological disorder that prevents the visual cortex of your brain from elaborating non-textual stimuli.
Please answer this simple test: can you see any difference between the pic on the left and the pic on the right?
If the answer is "yes", that difference is what we call *EVIDENCE*!
If the answer is "nope", I'm sorry I can't help you any more
t0 was shit. so I'm not sure what interested you.
So what triggered Barry this time? I ain't reading all that shit.
I thought it was kinda crap. Way too many choices that just boggled my mind, like no experience shared between classmates, needing to jump through hoops to use phoenix downs, can only have 1 sidequest active at a time, and countless other things.
like one of the first posts saying tabata is worse than nomura. then Barry had to let it out
he's pretty bad
twitter.com/jb_squareenix
this retard literally thinks the redesigned tenebrae symbol from xv is the original versus tenebrae symbol, and is claiming the CG render cropped pics(one of which is from kingsglaive ravus) that he posted are actual real life physical pins from versus era
Zeal continues to be the biggest retard in existence
>Keeps insisting his Yea Forums posts are evidence
I don't believe so, and as others pointed out here: and here: So I don't see why you keep pretending this is anything other than a Yea Forums post.
>REEE Agree with me!!!!
He also shitposted against TWEWY too.
Holy fuck Zeal can you please kys?
I played it on the psp, and as a psp game it was great, never played the HD Remaster, I just felt that everything was there for the game to be great, given it wasn't developed for the psp, given a higher budget and more time, something about different military classes fighting in wars tickled me pretty good and felt rather unique
NOOOOOO
CLOUD NOOOO IT WAS MY TURN TO BE FF
Barry doesn't exist
This thread was originally KH fags seething and now its Zeal shilling his fake leaks and fanfic
Nice try KH falseflagging fag
You are Barry.
>Noctis tekken trailer has more views than Cloud smash trailer
NOOO BUT SORA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN SMASH
What's funny is that Noctis was fun in the XIV crossover. The absolute state of Tabata when a crossover makes better use of your character than you did in his own game.
Nice try KH fag or Zeal, only KH fags and Zeal spout "barry" or whatever boogeyman you think
Noctis is always fun and he acts exactly the same way in that as he does in main XV, the absolute state of you nomura shill contrarians not being able to deal with reality.
Both Zeal and Barry are dirt.
Zeal is subhuman
barry doesn't exist
Nah, he's quite boring in his own game. Sorry Barry.
KH2FM > KH1FM >>>>>> KH3 > FFXV
Both FFXV and KH3 are pretty underwhelming
I think you forgot about Hideo Kojima
Nope, he's great just like in anything he's in.
Cope KH tranny
FFXV>Shit>KH2FM>KH1FM>SHIT>KH3
He literally says and does the same exact stuff in that crossover that he does in XV, why are you lying?
meanwhile all westerners care about is cutting off their genitals
t. HK user
KH trannies do do that
>Killed fallout, next game will kill eso
>inventor of the horse armor dlc
>game engine from 1998
>bug testing games is a joke
This
LMAO and Zeal claims he fucking has "the actusl VSXIII Regis throne" ? how fucking retarded can he get? Its so fucking blatant in its stupidity and bold face lie
Why are you lying? He's uninterested in anything happening around him. People talk to him, he just mumbles yeah sure, whatever, etc. And then does whatever quest they need. Even the NPC companions have more life than him.
They've always said it's a "hybrid" system. And IIRC in the latest Kitase interview, he said (through a translator) to give the combat a bit more "actiony feel". You may say that this "confirms" it to be an action game. But in my interpretation, they're simply looking at the old game combat, and tried to find a way to make it look like an action combat, while still retaining aspects of the old, but not too to go too deep into action. Hence why the action aspect in the remake, from what I've saw is very streamlined.
XII? I don't really like gambits and I've not really dived deep into it so I can't really say much about it and I haven't went and fight some side bosses. From my experience, I simply hate it because most of the time I let gambits to do the battles for me and the only input I'd have to use is the left joystick. I'd swap out some commands before fighting a hunt or a boss. But still a lot of the time, everything is automated. I know I could opt to not make the leader be auto'd, but why would I when I could just auto it. I can see how playing around with the gambits is fun to some, some hunts that I fought like the white chocobo requires bubble or some kind of a specific spell command setup to win that battle. I'm really against having gambits in the Remake for the reason that I hate having an automated system available. I tend to use that since I'm a lazy fuck. And from what I see, the combat in the remake, it seems that party members won't do abilities and spells automatically, thus in one way or the other the player has to command them from time to time and made you feel like you're actually controlling a party of allies. Something that FFs haven't really got after X (and to some extend, XII).