In retrospect, was the Wii the worst thing to ever happen to Nintendo?

You can do this with any system if you're stupid enough.

>the point where nintendo realized they had to carve out a niche for themselves instead of trying to outmuscle others' hardware for nothing, because pedro, muhammad and seba will not buy the kiddy brand as their fifa machine anyway
if anything, it saved nintendo

nah, right off the bat I can say the gamecube had metroid prime and f zero gx and resident evil 4 which were exceptional. can't think of anything for the wii.

All shit, sorry.

Two Mario Galaxies, Xenoblade, Muramasa, the best Metroid Prime.

That's because you most likely didn't have anything beyond wii sports.

In a way, yeah. In the back of their minds they secretly want the old people back, that’s why 1 2 Switch exists. I’m still surprised it wasn’t bundled with it.

No but the Wii U was

>Galaxy Series not good
>Xenoblade somehow not good
Man its like talking with a baiting retard.... oh wait

>Two Mario Galaxies
both worse than sunshine
>Muramasa
shit controls and translation, both of those problems were fixed on vita along with more content
>the best Metroid Prime.
prime 3 is easily the worst, prime 3 suffered because of muh halo and muh story

will admit I never played xenoblade though

Great consoles are defined by its catalogue. PS2 didn't have any hardware gimmicks and is one of the best consoles there was entirely because of its catalogue.

>>all shit, sorry.

No. Nintendo realized that competing on power was retarded and was a zero-sum game, so they differentiated themselves by innovating. Video game industry owes at least half of the standards nowadays because of Nintendo.

People bought PS2 to play DVDs, that was a gimmick in 2000.

How's a massive and unexpected by Nintendo and their rivals success even a bad thing?

The Wii is a great console,it has really good games and it's really cheap right now if you want to play them

Plus the retrocompatibility of the console it's really good both with official releases and Homebrew

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They're not shit, but they're all worse than their predecessors or obsolete.

>no hardware gimmicks

The PS2 was in every home because it was a cheap dvd player as well as a new console. High install base leads to more games because they're guaranteed to reach a larger audience. Without the dvd player gimmick PS2 wouldn't be half as big as it was.

I always felt that they should have pushed forward with the 64 addons. They had an epic expansion for ocarina of time on the way and FF7. The rift between Square and Nintendo over not releasing the CD addon is probably the biggest tragedy in gaming history and was the point where Nintendo started getting weird. They lost all their 3rd party support after that and things were never the same for their consoles.

You know the wii has the best version of Resi 4 right?
Then there's
Sonic Colors
Madworld
Trauma Team
No More Heroes 1 and 2
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
MH Tri
Sin and Punishment Star Successor

And that's not even counting the new entries in Nintendo series that blew their GC predecessors out of the water and revivals like the Galaxy games, DKCR and Punch Out.
Honestly the wii had much better games and support than the GC.

except for sonic which I think sucked I'll check these out. S&P is the sequel to an N64 game right?

>Sonic Colors
>Good

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Wii Sports is a good game.

>which I think sucked
It's one of the only good modern sonic games user.
And yes S&P Star Successor is a sequel.

What is this, Yea Forums's contrarian power hour?

The Wii is unironically a good console
>great 240p output for retro games
>wiimote actually has a better dpad than the Switch Pro and Gamecube controllers
>Wii Sports was fun
>Brawl was pure kino
>everyone bought TP on it, don't even pretend you didn't
>full GC backwards compatibility
>amazing when softmodded
>that perfect case aesthetic
In terms of "worst things" to happen to Nintendo that's more likely to be the Virtual Boy or Wii U.
Wii was a good console on its own and did well financially as well.

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>>great 240p output for retro games
emulators on the wii are kinda balls though.

you win some you lose some.

Bit.Trip Complete
Blast Works
Deadly Creatures
Dokapon Kingdom
DKC Returns
Endless Ocean 1 and 2
Excite Truck
ExciteBots
Fatal Frame 2 and 4
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Fortune Street
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Ghost Squad
Guilty Gear XX AC+
HotD 2 & 3
HotD: Overkill
Kirby's Return to Dream Land
MadWorld
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Monster Hunter Tri
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
NBA Jam
NSMBWii
No More Heroes 1 and 2
Pandora's Tower
Punch-Out!!
RE4
Rhythm Heaven Fever
Rune Factory: Frontier
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom
The Last Story
The Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
Trauma Center: Second Opinion and New Blood
Trauma Team
Xenoblade
Zack & Wiki
Zangeki No Reginleiv

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Wii era Nintendo made more profit in a single year than Playstation made Sony in it's first 22 years combined.
So no.

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Nope. Switch.
The Switch is the worst fucking platform in vidya history. I'd unironically rather play on a Chromebook.

>inferior hardware for the 80th time to cut costs
>game library is non existant (2 years in, i've still only bothered to pick up 5 games; mk8 deluxe which came with the system, botw, odyssey, splatoon 2 which ended prematurely like the first game although that time it was cause the wii u was dying, and smash) rest is awful 1st parties that are forgotten after a month, half assed 3rd party ports, and shovelware (i will defend the wii u ports, since nobody bought the wii u versions, 10-15 years from now they'll be hard to find and the wii u eshop will have become an hero by then)
>laggy online (again) that regresses by bringing back friend codes and charging for it, neither of which were on the wii u
>i know i already brought up the hardware, but this bullshit deserves its own segment: 32gb hard drive unless you sacrifice more bing bing wahoo dollars for an sd card
>no proper virtual console, instead we get that subscription where you get 20 or so nes games we've already seen multiple times on vc, still no way to play gamecube unless you buy from price hiked ebay listings or risk your isp cutting the internet down by pirating
>the whole gimmick is thrown out the window after you use it for a few hours; handheld mode has an absolutely laughable battery life, tv mode it still carries over the power of a handheld so you might as well play the 360 since it's about on par with that graphic wise, and tabletop mode is almost unusable since the charging port is on the bottom; the fact that they're coming out with a handheld only version (which it should've been to begin with, but muh innuvation) proves this point further

>The Switch is the worst fucking platform in vidya history
I could think of at least five that are worse.

The wii was one of nintendo's best consoles. It had a ton of great and unique games. I prefer if over the swtich

>inferior hardware for the 80th time to cut costs
The Tegra X1 is still one of the best mobile power houses, even after all these years.
>>game library is non existant (2 years in, i've still only bothered to pick up 5 games; mk8 deluxe which came with the system, botw, odyssey, splatoon 2 which ended prematurely like the first game although that time it was cause the wii u was dying, and smash) rest is awful 1st parties
Fire Emblem was great, Astral Chain is coming out soon.
It's already got a better library than the Wii U.
>>laggy online (again) that regresses by bringing back friend codes and charging for it, neither of which were on the wii u
you can get online for free
>>i know i already brought up the hardware, but this bullshit deserves its own segment: 32gb hard drive unless you sacrifice more bing bing wahoo dollars for an sd card
it's not a harddrive.
SD cards are cheap and plentiful.
>>no proper virtual console, instead we get that subscription where you get 20 or so nes games we've already seen multiple times on vc,
This is a legit complaint. NES online is trash.
>still no way to play gamecube unless you buy from price hiked ebay listings or risk your isp cutting the internet down by pirating
oh so you're one of those cucks that bought and unhackable system?
that's on you.
Also you're scared of your ISP, what are you 10?
>the whole gimmick is thrown out the window after you use it for a few hours; handheld mode has an absolutely laughable battery life
I often use it handheld, I rarely need to play for more than a few hours at a time.
If you're on the road or on a plane maybe you'd have a point but planes have charging ports and you can get those for your car.
> tv mode it still carries over the power of a handheld so you might as well play the 360 since it's about on par with that graphic wise
both incorrect, it overclock in docked mode and the Switch performs far better than PS3/360 in multiplats consistently.

>laggy online (again)
That's a problem on your end if it's a consistent thing you know. Personally I get perfect splatoon, MH and Smash games on the regular, it's only bad if I'm paired with an obvious spic.

>Great consoles are defined by its catalogue
Wrong. It about tech AND games, as tech think of what the game system has to offer not "muh graphix!"; Wii made the cut for this one. Meanwhile PS2 was a disgusting hardware, even underpowered Wii was solid.

>Using emulator on a home console
I was gonna call you a retard but it'd be redundant.

>It about tech
This is bait.

>emulate on a console
>bad
this site is 18+

Having a straightforward 240p output is a really good thing for emulating if you want a decent picture without jumping through a ton of hoops. If emulators on the Wii were any good it would be easy to recommend.

Sonic was never good

So it is the contrarian hour

Thing is you don't need them; you have VC, or simply connect a computer to a tv/monitor and that's literally it. Wii not having emulators or them being shit is a petty argument to claim it as a some sort of a drawback.

Then why are you posting? You emluate on PC, but you wouldn't know that, kid.

>or simply connect a computer to a tv/monitor and that's literally it.
it really isn't that simple if you're planning on emulating on a crt tv

I don't think he's ever tried.
Or has an interest in retro games for that matter.

You could say that for basically any game.

Prime was better than Fusion, GX was arguably better than X, Resi 4 was better than everything that came before. Try again.

Shitty bait but here's your (You)
Literally this

>They still make games for this
But no that'd be the Virtual Boy

Nintendo has never made a bad controller or console before. The only people who disagree are braindead Sony and Microsoft kids whose first console was big bros. It's even pathetic that the Virtual Boy has more original and exclusive games than the Vita or PS4 or Xbone.

This is bait.

>let's make a gimmicky controller
>it's horribly inaccurate and fucking awful in R&D
>fuck it, ship it anyway, we'll just convince the stupid masses it's good just like we did with Mario 64 and the N64
I will never understand what the fuck happened to people's common sense. Anyone looking at any of this shit objectively would laugh their ass off at how fucking stupid it is.

Exactly that's why you use the game system of said games. The other option is emulating on PC.

sure but there'd be nothing wrong with emulating on a console if the emulation quality were decent because it's so much easier to get a good video setup

>with emulating on a console if the emulation quality
That be the Wii VC to some extent. Which is also meant for CRTs.

Yeah, the Wii VC is okay. I think there are some problems with getting a good 240p output though, so I tend to stick with homebrew emulators. It'd also be nice if the console were powerful enough for better 5th gen emulation but alas.

One of the nicest things about the PSP was that if you got the video-out cables you could play PS1 games in original resolution with no hassle.

>more original and exclusive games
I know a goalpost on wheels when I see one.

the snes was nintendos last good console. you can count the games worth playing on every console since on 2 hands.

Why doesn't Nintendo make a real no gimmick console again?

Rockstar made RDR2 with 3000 people. Nintendo made BotW with 300 people, and that was like three times larger than any team they've ever used.
Graphics are expensive.

Because you'll buy a PlayStation instead anyway.

Holy shit are you me? This is pretty much what I came here to post, racist banter and all

True. It was a popular point in Sony's court back during the cafeteria conversations days. The only games people actually went nuts for on the thing were MGS2 and FFX. Anything else you've heard was a niche pick at the time, even Kingdom Hearts. You zoomers don't realize the early oughts all anyone really played were sports games and Halo with the occasional side game. This is pre COD and all that shit. DVD playback was HUGE for a lot of people

t. Boomer

This

Because the last time they did they were driven to market irrelevancy?

The market is already clearly oversaturated just by having 2 "diet PC" consoles, Nintendo making a 3rd one to throw into the mix would be commercial suicide.

It was their only decent home console this century.

nah, The curse of modern games consoles is that technology has expanded faster than project management capabilities. Nintendo hardware being underpowered is a blessing in disguise since it helps to hold back project bloat relative to competing systems.

The 64 was worse
The fact that they opted for cartridges and lower end hardware still haunts them to this day

The Wii was not bad for them by any metric. Wii U was, but doesn't compare to Virtual Boy. That thing was a legit stillborn.

>lower end hardware
lolwut?

>best version of resi4
That isn't the current pc release. Mouse trumps motion anytime

It made them a bunch of money.
The wii u failing ruined Nintendo

No, it has a great library

What does Disney and Trump have to do with this?

>Trauma Team
Based. I'd also add Trauma Center: Second Opinion to that. I think Trauma Team is the more solid game, but Second Opinion is the much more challenging and in-depth game.

New Blood is the hardest of them all but is also extremely infuriating.

I got one recently and damn, what a fucking piece of junk. I've only played Twilight Princess for now because I've used it mostly to hack it and play real consoles on it but the motion controls are pretty bad.
I was also impressed that the quality of the materials is laughable too, the fucking motion sensor cable ... I have had headphones that give you on trains with better cable quality than that, I still do not know how I have not broken. And the fact of having to spend more money to play in a normal controller.

The WIIU did not give me this feeling but the switch gives me exactly the same feeling, what a couple of fucking pieces of shit. The switch is even worse because the wii still had some curious experiments but the switch is pure decay

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a "normal" controller because it has to be plugged into the fucking nunchuck so it's wireless but not really, a very weird thing...

Nintendo never made really good desktop console except for the gamecube.

Yep, they have so much saved up from the Wii that they could keep the Wii U going for another 5 years and still be in the green.