>Sega Rep: Joker - Persona series >Square Enix Rep: Hero - Dragon Quest series >Microsoft Rep: Banjo Kazooie - Banjo Kazooie series >Capcom Rep: Leon/Jill - Resident Evil series >Activision Rep: Crash Bandicoot - Crash Bandicoot series >All reps are from the most recognizable and profitable video game companies in the world.
>not a MonHun rep Into the shitter sitter, quitter
Lucas Hall
Monster Hunter has no set characters outside the Monsters and palicoes. Making a hunter with seven different weapons in its moveset isn't unique, it's cumbersome. Rathalos is fine in the role it plays.
James Hall
as much as I want reimu in... I have to say that the idea of a major video company being represented is what makes more logical sense. but leon/jill ? there has to be something better
Jayden Foster
MvC:I Hunter is a fantastic character trapped in a shit game. She needs to come back.
Dylan Martinez
>Crashfags coattailing again
Ryder Lopez
What fucking 1 billion dollar franchises does Microsoft have except minecraft and maybe halo.
Ryder Thompson
She can stay in that game where she belongs. Doesn't the Monster Hunter team have a embargo on stuff like that?
Elijah Thomas
If we're going off the value of the franchises them selves, then the next characters would have to be >Space Invader >Dungeon Fighter Online character How the fuck has Dungeon Fighter made more than Warcraft I know nothing about it
Jayden Taylor
>Leon/Jill You know we're getting my boy Phoenix Wright for Capcom
They have to be currently popular/highly requested picks since people pay extra for these, so Space Invaders is unlikely.
But shitty generic humans with fucking guns are somehow more unique and entertaining than a full fledged hunter? RE fags deserve the rope.
John Moore
yes, because they have personality you make the hunter, and even if they have cool weapons they are a blank slate in the character department t. wouldn't mind if either got in, but not rooting for either of them
Liam Walker
>No doomguy
Neck yourself
David Jenkins
>But shitty generic humans with fucking guns are somehow more unique and entertaining than a full fledged hunter?
yes, Do NOT reply to me as it proves my point if you do. however if you don't reply that means you are afraid to defend the game which also once again proves my point. I win.
Monster Hunter Stories would be a cool hunter chara gimmick if they could implement a Monstie right.
Robert Morris
if you knew anything about Joker, his guns are model guns that fire cognitive bullets, not a real firearm.
Luis Martin
it's a fucking tokarev, it's a real gun.
Josiah Edwards
>Sega What are their 2 billion dollar franchises?
Joseph Kelly
>people still shilling Crash I hate to be one of the never ever guys, but get real.
Gavin Cruz
a model of one. in Persona 5 the Phantom Thieves use model guns. They also don't fire real bullets.
Owen Green
>he says, in the series where Link, Pokemon Trainer, Villager, and Hero are playable
Jackson Flores
Sonic and Puyo Puyo.
Joseph Sanders
If you give Doomguy a big exaggerated burst particle then he'd honestly be fine.
If Joker can have a fucking handcannon with the excuse being "uhh yeah these are IMAGINARY bullets" then Doomguy can get in more or less uncensored.
Oliver Kelly
Doomguy and Monster Hunter are my picks, but we'll see around when Banjo is released I figure...
Carter Smith
>if you knew anything about Joker Do you think the casuals that play Smash know anything about Joker? To them it just looks like a regular gun. It's not like players are reminded in-game that Joker's gun isn't real every time he pulls it out.
Cameron Morris
and that excludes the realism of it how? it's still a real looking gun with real looking firing sounds, it's a fucking gun. doesn't matter if it's a model, it's still a fucking gun.
Ethan Reed
>Capcom rep Megaman Ryu
Luis Gomez
it's only real if you perceive it to be that way, that's the power of cognition
basically it looks and sounds like a real gun but it's only not real because you know it's not. It's pretty real otherwise but it still follows the rules of Smash guns via technicalities.
John Davis
this is some mental gymnastics, no matter what context you make it, it's still a realistic firearm no matter how much lore you say it isn't, if it looks like a real gun, it is a real gun, that's how ratings go.
Blake Miller
but lore wise it's not a real gun. You can call it real all you want, but it's not a real gun. At the end of the day, it being a model gun that fires imaginary bullets is still canon.
Parker Thompson
Are you serious?
Mason Howard
>Wanting another character as boring as DQ hero Shit taste friend
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shoots bullets like a duck, it is a duck. This is on par with the "draw a girl, call it a boy" phenomenon.
Aiden Martinez
you're not understanding. no mentioning in smash does it say it's a fake gun, and it also looks real enough to be a gun, therefore to, say, the ESRB and general public, it is a real gun.
Easton Carter
Call of Doot is more relevant to Smash than Crash.
Leo Hall
>Wanting any mundane human characters to rep Resident Evil >Not a Tyrant
Just suck it up and admit Joker doesn't use a real fucking firearm already. You can keep saying "well it is because I say it is" all you want, but that doesn't make it true.
ESRB doesn't rate DLC, and anyone who's played Persona 5 knows it's not a real gun.
and anyone who hasn't played P5 doesn't know. your point?
Zachary Perry
That you should educate yourself, faggot.
Robert Moore
Just give doom guy the plasma rifle as a neutral special, make it like bayonetta's feet guns. Or better yet, make his smash attacks a shotgun blast, and take a page from quake and make his recovery rocket jumping Boom, solved it
Matthew Ward
people shouldn't have to extensively try to find out if a gun is real or not, those kinds of technicalities don't matter if it's just from glance, it's still a hand gun with metallic texture and the sound it makes is the sound a pistol makes. it's a realistic firearm even if it's fictitious in nature.
Jeremiah Collins
Crash is relevant to Smash in the same way Sonic is, as the de facto mascot of one of Nintendo's biggest industry rivals. youtube.com/watch?v=mTi5EaocGaY
iirc, the hunter girl was added to MvC without the monster hunter devs' blessing, and they were pretty pissed off about it
Zachary Kelly
>>Capcom Rep: Leon/Jill - Resident Evil series And why exactly would we get a 4th and 5th Capcom rep instead of a 2nd Namco rep or soomething from an unrepresentedn company
I don't think it will ever happen but I kinda want to see Richtofen as the Activision rep, using only wonder weapons so they don't have to use firearms I think it could be possible to make an interesting moveset with that
Nathaniel Lee
Yeah because that's the problem, realistic guns Not like half the cast isn't running around with swords
Ah yes, Joker, my favorite Sega character And I'm sure the reason they put Banjo in is because they wanted a Microsoft rep. Never mind the fact that there was only one Banjo game on a Microsoft system, and it was poorly received, and Banjo isn't using his design from that game. Patternfags are retarded.
James Wilson
Yes, any that aren’t owned by Nintendo shouldn’t be in smash
Dominic Fisher
>any that aren't owned by Nintendo shouldn't be in smash.
>you're fucking stupid. There's genuine support for her. So don't you say that and eat your own words later.
Noah Morales
>There's genuine support for her. On Yea Forums only.
Jaxon Diaz
Seriously, I've looked around in numerous social medias and communities and I haven't heard of a single person wanting Reimu. Only Yea Forums wants her for some unknown reason.
Tyler Garcia
>An RE rep over Dante Sounds boring enough to be true. Crash'd be cool though.
Parker Gonzalez
Reminder Yea Forums since the beginning of it's inception were big fans of the Touhou franchise, so it's understandable why anons would meme the shit out of her.
Rathalos was your MonHun representation. May not be a character, but there it is.
Lucas Morris
THIS SHIT IS RIGGED AS FUCK THE FAT AUTISTIC GROWN MEN RIG IT EVERYTIME, UGLY BEAR CUNT DIDN’T ACTUALLY WIN IT’S RIGGED AS FUCK!
Alexander Rogers
>Activision Blizzard >Not Tracer
Dylan Roberts
Doomguy hasn’t been requested since Melee.
Alexander Garcia
Woah...
Kevin James
I think Crash would be an appropriate character and I like him but god I can't imagine him having an interesting moveset.
Leo Garcia
>"Hey I know this looks like a real gun and sounds like a real gun and it's firing bullets and has a muzzle flash but it's totally fake because the lore of my game states that it is, that means everyone should treat it like it's fake"
Crashfags have become the new Stevefags. Prove me wrong.
Kayden Campbell
The left is inevitable at some point but the right is just another Leon, another Capcom character who’s talked about way too much.
John Bailey
his victory screen could be him fucking coughing to death while unshaken plays
Aaron Wilson
You’re so right, crashfags hang on to the fact that just because on cereal mascot got in, another one is guaranteed r-r-r-ri-right? Fuck no it isn’t COPE HE’S NEVER GETTING IN!
Robert Smith
They've made the Wii Fit avatar a character. I don't think they'll have trouble making Crash interesting.
Levi Sullivan
Travis better get in, i also want to hear the remix of his theme.
They're Stevefags trying to play themelves up as the next in line and extremely dedicated despite barely ever talking about wanting him in until Banjo got in.
Hudson Powell
Honestly, it's pretty crazy how she keeps popping up and placing decently in western fanpolls despite only showing up in like 4 games overseas anyone got that pic with all these fanpolls combined and shit? thought i had it but i guess not
Evan Williams
Funny as Leon and Crash are my two most wanted characters. Others would be an Ubisoft rep like Altair or indie rep like Shantae.
Crash doesn't really do anything but run, jump, slide and spin. And there's nothing about him that a regular human can't do. If there was going to be punch kick the character, it's him. Except he has a bazooka as a projectile.
Jeremiah Lewis
>Overall these polls show that japan wants more Kirby and that K Rool was a worldwide pick even though he said he was only added to please the west.
Daniel Richardson
They say a hunter should not be used as a face for the series and has refused including hunters in anything besides merch
John Barnes
By he said I meant Sakurai
Gabriel Anderson
I will say, there would be a point to be made if Smash referenced this lore. But it doesn't, neither in the game nor via external Smash material (not even Joker's overview video clarifies the nature of his Gun). Joker's Gun, as it is represented and explained in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, is for all intents and purposes a realistic firearm.
Plus even if this Joker lore justification was still a valid argument against Doomguy's "realistic" weapons (it really truly fucking isn't though), you could very easily give Doomguy sci-fi-sh designed equivalents from Quake. Pic related is the Super Shotgun from Quake Champions; this shit is far from realistic.
I don’t even give a shit about Crash, but why does every other characterfag become the “next Stevefags”? I’ve seen people say this about Reimu, Phoenix Wright, Leon, and Chosen Undead.
Isaac Jenkins
>that random ass coiled spring at the bottom for what purpose
Wyatt Evans
Stevefags didn't dissappear after the Banjo reveal. They're still here just not organised and falseflagging and shitposting under different characters I'm guessing.
Leo Morgan
I KNOW it's not a real firearm. But you're missing the point. If LITERALLY the only thing distinguishing the metaverse guns from real guns is that you call it a metaverse gun, it is still effectively a real gun. For all intents and purposes, it is a real gun. Refer to the earlier analogy of "draw a girl, call it a boy". If I show you two identical anime girls and tell you that one of them is actually a boy, it in no way changes the pictures themselves.
Nicholas Fisher
He never defended or supported Resident Evil either.
Caleb Phillips
Crash has less moveset potential than Banjo. Literally all he has is spin. That's it.
Jayden Gonzalez
Activision isn’t getting one only reason miscroshit did is because they are sucking off nintendos chink penis to stay relevant
Adrian Long
>says that while posting Banjoke Zero self awareness
Caleb Cook
Microshit does a lot of more than games retard
Jace Torres
The next one is probably and unironcally a souls character even if it doesn’t sound interesting at all
Landon Nelson
It’s probably banjokes who want crash just another ugly corny cereal box character
Jason Jones
I never said that. In fact I'd swap Resident Evil for another series in a heartbeat. Fuck realistic humans in Smash.
Parker Perry
Most people would have rather had a new Kirby character over bascially any of the newcomers this game blame hackuri for having a hate boner against anything that isn’t from his games
Robert Wright
Faggot
Kevin Martinez
Yes they suck dick only one that should have been added is sonic and Agumon and u can’t deny this
James Wilson
t. idiot that spams SERIAL MASCOTS Give me one reason why realistic humans should be added over cartoony characters.
Carson Hernandez
>linking joker to sega >linking Banjoke to microshit That’s like saying bayo is a Nintendo character glass urself
Henry Howard
Because they are gay bing bong whaooo trash first thing I would do is remove all the donkey Kong/mario character get those ugly boring fags outta here and toss Banjoke into the incerator
Tyler Mitchell
>Square Enix (7) Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, ...?
Dominic Sanchez
Now I'm convinced that idiot is a bot based on how he replied.
Jason Howard
>Agumon Fuck off you falseflagging faggot. Don’t use Agumon in your shitposts and put a target on his back.
To the people sperging 'Joker's gun is a REAL GUN!!!!' As evidence of broken rules or gun characters like Dante I'll fill you in on a little secret: The guy that made the final character choices in the game is still Sakurai. Nintendo chose the characters but they allowed Sakurai a final look to decide if they'd get in or not Sakurai knows Joker's Gun isn't a real gun, therefore he's in with gunplay intact This fucks a RE Character/Dante in the ass Doomguy has plenty of fantasy weapons to not be outright excluded so he ain't out yet but don't confuse Joker's guns with real guns, Sakurai actually plays games so the ESRB can suck a dick
Nolan Harris
U know I’m right
Asher Phillips
>t. Bing bing whaooooo basedboy Cope faggot mario and donkey are a gay and ur a gay for like that
Blake Kelly
Trying way too hard.
Jace Foster
>U Are you that underage ESL in that last Banjo thread? If it’s you fuck off. Keep your Banjo hate boner, he’s still getting in the game soon. But don’t use any other character in your shitposts you brain damaged hobgoblin.
Austin Morgan
Does the ESRB care if the gun is a make believe gun? Actual question.
Dominic Sanchez
Remember Doombros, don’t be this guy. No character is a lock until they are shown to be in.
Cope ya seething autistic manchild >doomfags suck themselves off because no one else will Absolute state of them
Christian Morgan
Unironically depends on their mood that day Realistically, a fake gun, if it looks realistic and shoots a damaging projectile should count as a real gun by their (hilarious) standards But they have ignored it a couple of times in the past
Cooper Fisher
I don’t care for master queef but he would have been 10x better than Banjoke sense u know he isn’t forever dead and people actually know what it is and isn’t backed by autistic annoying cringe lifeless manchilds
Hunter Lee
>Blizzard, King and Activision separate
COPE
Jackson Howard
If there’s anything to dislike about Sakurai it’s certainly this
James Morales
Hey the ESL tranny is back.
Sebastian Sanders
>Doom is to the U.S what Dragon Quest is to Japan fucking delusional
Adrian Price
That goes for any character. Making a claim that someone's in is always going to blow up in your face. You can like a character but don't claim that they're 100% in.
He has Aku Aku, but Banjo already has the feather move that does the same thing
Jonathan Butler
It’s my opinion ya fucking retard go be gay somewhere else
Evan Roberts
It’s fake character 66 was Belmonts
Aaron Ramirez
It will never not baffle me the extent to which Doomfags will suck off Doom. Not even the most popular game in its genre yet somehow even in the same ballpark as Dragon Quest to them. I don’t even now if outside of games and the old comic if Doom even has anything other media.
Mason Rodriguez
Nah, you don't say.
Jayden Carter
>not an argument Also ya know I’m. Right seethe more Banjoke
Oliver Rodriguez
I mean sure, but as of late I have seen primarily Doom supporters act real smug about his chances as if he’s all but confirmed at this point.
Andrew Green
Imagine thinking the Crash games are good. Even by PS1 standards, they're not. Also, why the fuck would you be buying a PS1 and still playing fucking kid shit?
Isaiah Reed
I mean Diddy was a western character in Brawl so it's nothing new
Isaac Gomez
In a Japanese franchise
Samuel James
If you want me to take you seriously, learn the difference between "sense" and "since.
David Evans
It fires a hook at enemies and can either pull them towards you or you towards them
Lucas Peterson
No shit that's an offical Halo render
Grayson Powell
Crash Bandicoot 1 has a proper tommy gun and is rated E10+. I don't think the ESRB cares about whether or not Joker's gun is real (although I maintain that it effectively is). It doesn't cause blood or brains to fly out of the people it shoots so it's not too violent to go beyond "cartoon violence".
Tyler Gonzalez
>Sakurai only pays attention to the good games Nah, that's actually pretty based.
Daniel Johnson
>began in the hands of British >laid dormant until it got picked back up by Americans Is it really?
Point taken. I don't even think DOOM is that popular in Japan which like it or not does play a factor. Banjo had traction in both the East and West and someone like Crash who I'm only using as an example so fuck off to any of the shitposters - Crash who has had some notoriety in both the East/West does seem likely though Activision may not want to play ball. But that's just my take on it, not pushing it as a fact.
Gabriel Sanders
Part of the dk series u retarded emojiposter kys
Oliver Smith
Not him, but Donkey Kong himself is a Japanese creation. And anything related to him is owned by the Japanese despite the hands laid on the series being different from time to time.
Caleb Davis
I don’t care what ya think u digusting incel cringe virgin
Jeremiah Brooks
>Sakurai only pays attention to the good games
He really fucking doesn’t
Christian Scott
But Donkey Kong Country didn't. Would you really call Metroid Prime a Japanese series even if Metroid itself originated in Japan?
Yes. Doesn't really matter since Banjo was made by Rare in the UK, and now is owned by Microsoft in the US so any region "rule" is broken.
Austin Diaz
>Leak that states that Ori, Cuphead and Xbox Gamepass would be coming to Switch >Gamepass would come with MCC >Both Cuphead and Ori are now on/coming to Switch Look I'm not saying he's in but he's likely
The Donkey Kong Nintendo made and the Donkey Kong Rare made are hardly even remotely alike or have anything to do with each other by any means. DKC was practically a completely new IP with the only similarity being the name of the starring character.
And furthermore, the DKC series was always and still is developed exclusively in the west, and yet a character made just for this series and is still most prevalent in this very series is considered Japanese just because of an arcade game he has absolutely nothing to do with.
>another western boring miscroshit character NO FUCK OFF Banjoke shouldn’t be in either only in because microshit has to suck off Nintendo’s nip ween to stay relevant in their gayming section only reason he was added is because they whored Banjoke out for free probably in hopes for some antention because they are that irrelevant why do u think they are doing the whole cross pay Xbox live on switch because they are dying and they know it
Ian Walker
>it is essentially a new IP with DK for marketing. So, like Skylanders but better?
Aaron Wood
>what is punctuation
William Stewart
And?
Camden Jackson
Don't give the ESL attention.
Aaron Ortiz
Yes
Gavin Wood
I never claimed they were “the same” my whole statement was about the literal ownership. Japan still owns the series, so it’s legally a Japanese franchise.
Elijah Brown
Either this guy overestimates how popular Doom actually is, or he doesn’t know how fucking insane Japs are for Dragon Quest.
At Least u admit that he was only added because of the current state of microshit
Henry Morris
>fatlus gets their own copyright in the game alongside sega while rare gets nothing Don't think Captain King is particularly likely but that strikes me as fishy when both of them had some sort of notable involvement in the DLC (Atlus let them use unrevealed P5R stuff like the grappling hook and Banjo's original artist did the updated Smash design). If this was a few years ago before they started whoring themselves out to everyone I could've seen Microsoft going "ok, you can have the bear as long you in our golden boy" Does Japan even like Halo? I know Doom has a niche WAD community but a Xbox-exclusive shooter sounds like a recipe for disaster over there.
If it was based off of how successful the games are, then why is a Puyo Puyo Protagonist and Master Chief in Smash?
Robert Watson
Microshit is the one who pushed Banjoke on to them there was an article on ign stating there was no ceo to ceo talk and hackuri had no say other than going okay
Nathan Morgan
>Win game >Win animation is Well What is it
Evan Wilson
>ign Tranny please.
Charles Murphy
>Cuhrayyyzayyy
Dante would he a wack Bayonetta clone. RE could atleast bring something unique to the table.
Gabriel Ramirez
based
Brody James
Still is true and he couldn’t say no without a bunch of incel cringe manchilds threating him if they found out he turned down there autism bear and wanted to shut ya annoying fags up literally thought rool would please ya fags but nothing will stop rosterfags from wanting there next meme character
Dylan Watson
various resting animations at a bonfire >default rest >sleep >stretch out
Juan Ortiz
RE woud just be Snake but with actual guns.
Sebastian Allen
Why are people still responding to ESLfag? He doesn't even use proper punctuation. That should be a dead giveaway that he's a buttmuncher not worth anyone's time.
Logan Walker
The gimmick about weapons in P5 is that there so realistic that the shadow’s cognition has them behave as though they were real weapons, even down to guns having limited ammo. There’s only one exception to this rule, and you know as well as I do that he’s a really weird exception
Grayson Gutierrez
Sakurai didn't pick the DLC, Nintendo did, he just told them if he could make their choices work.
William Watson
It's funny.
Chase Cook
He had to okay it u absolute 1 brain cell drooling retard imagine if he turned down autism bear and all the manchilds found out he would probably get fire bomb easier to deal with them then listen to them cry for more time
Lucas Lopez
>Dante >Bayo close If it's one thing Dante has it's moveset potential, aside from Joker stealing rainstorm. REp would be cool too though.
Joshua Peterson
>Rep The developers do not give a fuck about "representing" companies. They only care about if the character is an interesting inclusion. The company they're from only enters their minds when it's time to license.
For example, those dumbasses who tried to push the Banjo VS Steve war over being the "Microsoft rep", when the developers thought process was probably: >wow, a lot of people want Banjo >let's see if Microsoft is up for it
So Smashfags trying to use these companies to see patterns where there are none will just make them look dumber.
You can even tell it’s that same brain damaged faggot. With the way he keeps misspelling words and using: >U >Ya He’s even in another thread sperging out.
Cameron Gomez
No no. Ugly Bear Cunt user is someone else. Both mentally ill, but someone else.
Michael Butler
I, THE UGLY BEAR CUNT CHAN ACTUALLY HAS GOOD GRAMMAR YOU RETARD, ESL IS A DIFFERENT PERSON ALLTOGETHER
Jose Garcia
>ESLfag and UBC-Chan are one in the same I mean, it's bullshit but that would make a lot of sense.
Joshua Miller
Okay it, as in tell them he can make a character out of it, nothing more. He didn't go through a list and got to pick who he wanted.
Colton Brown
>I, THE UGLY BEAR CUNT CHAN ACTUALLY HAS GOOD GRAMMAR >HAS
Halo isn't a massive thing there by any means but it at least managed to top Japanese sales charts in Japan when 3 was released, though if it was longer than a week is unknown. Still, for a franchise exclusive to a system that flounders in Japan to even top Sales charts at all means it has at least some following in Japan. Plus while it not as big of a deal in the US as Dragon Quest is in Japan, its definitly one of the more closest given it's spawned books, toys, TV shows, events like Outpost Discovery. I'm sure he could get in based on that alone given Hero is in. Still, I fully accept that he could simply not happen.
Blake Hughes
You chased it away big kirb
Joshua Gomez
>he believes this when joker was the first one If u seriously think joker was on Nintendo ur a retard
Eli Barnes
I, THE UGLY BEAR CUNT CHAN ACTUALLY HAVE GOOD GRAMMAR YOU RETARD, ESL IS A DIFFERENT PERSON ALLTOGETHER
Jaxson Young
Too predictable.
We might get Crash and/or an RE rep, but the last character is going to be someone nobody expects. A true wild card.
Aaron White
I call it Banjoke cunt is offensive and mean shitlord faggot
Daniel Perry
Persona Q2
Asher Perry
But Joker already has the Wild Card
Caleb Fisher
Yes, if Sakurai got to pick Rex would be in the DLC.
Charles Fisher
Remember to buy Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers for Nintendo Switch, featuring Joker as seen in Super Smash Bros Ultimate!
Leo King
>good grammar >putting 2 independent clauses together via a comma
Jeremiah Foster
Yah because they are gunna shill a dead system 1 brain cell post
Ethan Lopez
And that’s a good thing
Bentley Stewart
LOL! user reversed HAS and HAVE. I am actually happy you're back.
Luis Nelson
Where’s the lie? Doom is the grabdfather of the FPS genre, DQ is the grandfather of the JRPG genre. It’s that fucking simple
James Ramirez
>Thinking Nintendo seriously cares about some low budget multi-plat spin off Atlus doesn’t even care about it, they haven’t advertised it out all since it’s announcement back in April
Thomas Peterson
There was never a "no third parties" rule so I dont get this image
Brandon Turner
>Joker's not on Nintendo >Well what about this game >THAT DOESN'T COUNT Every time
There was never any rule besides "has to be vidya". They just represent imaginary rules made up by rosterfags.
Daniel Price
>implying he isn’t the 4th one Shiggy diggty
Mason Gray
How is he wrong? Super Smash Bros was and still should be celebrating nintendo history, NOT the faggoty bullshit retard gaming cross over you twats want.
Nintendo IPS should take precedent over 3rd party/indie shit. 3rd party/indie shit is allowed under two circumstances 1. It's been relevent/important to nintendo history. 2. Nintendo gets a new game from that franchise on its current system within two-three years of the release of that Smash Bros.
If third parties/indies can't/won't do this. Fuck. Them. Nintendo shouldn't be wasting money on royalties and rights for ips they don't profit off of, and just advertising for their rivals. Anyone who disagrees can die.
Yes this includes trophies/spirits as well. Literally everyone wins this way. Old franchises get new eyes on them and a new game/hd release, thus new fans. Nintendo weeds out the leeching whores while getting tons of new games secured. Fans get a good luck at gaming history and guaranteed games to enjoy.
Caleb Richardson
Reimu
Dylan Miller
but he actually has said it has to be from a video game you mouth breathing mongoloid.
Jason Morales
Not everything has to be a shill ya fucking turbo autist If I had to pick I would chose tails does that mean because of the upcoming sonic Olympics game no retard he picked joker because he likes the characters u forget these are people making the games not robots
Juan Smith
Yeah, that's what i said, you illiterate dummy.
Isaac Allen
Well for one, Doom doesn't send half the population in a frenzy with every game release
Colton James
Sonic is the only deserving one prove me wrong u can’t
You literally don’t determine that, faggot. Fuck off with your God awful shitposting.
Liam Sanders
>These two are similar in one way so they are similar in others. Doom isn't even the most popular franchise in it's genre and barely exists outside of the games. Fortnite is more closer to Dragon Quest than Doom is.
Colton Butler
>Proven wrong >Spergs out Calm down dude, don't get so angry just because Persona's in Smash
Throw in megaman and Pac-Man too though, no other deserves it desu
Carson Murphy
COPE FIRSTPARTY KEKS ARE WINNING ALREADY SINCE 4/5 OF THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS ARE GUARANTEED CUTS NEXT GAME
Owen Murphy
Halo would be more like DQ's counterpart because no one gives a shit about it outside America
Sebastian Lee
FIRSTPARTY KEKS*
Asher Peterson
What does that have to do with anything? DQ is the godfather of RPG games. Doom is the godfather of FPS games. Both series are iconic. Both series popularized a genre.
Joshua Ramirez
Cooks is now keks...shit
Julian Thomas
It's non-Japanese crash, no soul from the original
Nathan Perry
He has the most history cope
Carson Harris
Popularity? DQ is a force of nature in Japan.
William Allen
Anyone has any ideas on this supposed leak?
Joseph Thomas
You still don’t determine who “deserves” anything. Regardless of their history with Nintendo or not.
Nicholas Nguyen
Joker is one of only few characters I like in the game besides the Zelda, fire emblem, cloud, sonic, snake and bayo all i was saying it’s annoyingly how u fags think they have to rep something and can’t be used because they liked there character and wanted to use it shut up
>all i was saying it’s annoyingly how u fags think they have to rep something Dude you said Joker wasn't on Nintendo, and I just pointed out that he was. You're the one who got super upset over that.
Asher Garcia
somebody please explain to me the appeal of Leon, because i think he would be a very boring fighter
I don't even see him working in a fucking Smash trailer.
Levi Watson
Ridley was also massively requested in the west and first party, Doomguy fits neither of those descriptions.
William Rodriguez
you must have missed DOOM 2016 and Eternal
Asher Ortiz
Resident Evil's a fun and well known franchise of a genre that isn't really represented in Smash and Leon's the protagonist of the two most popular games in it. That's basically what it comes down to for me. I also want to see what the hell they'd come up with for an Up Special.
Gabriel Parker
y the fuck does the jerry gas can have an inset face
Benjamin Mitchell
DOOM and Eternal didn’t even come close to being that hyped.
David Cruz
You’re definitely overstating the hype for Doom 2016 or Eternal.
Nathan Davis
Why say “Doom is what DQ is to Japan” instead of “Doom is what DQ is to RPGs”? He’s clearly talking about popularity and not the influence they have in their respective genres.
Cooper King
No I said it doesn’t have to shill anything learn to read u fagggot
In smash they don’t care about pushing ugly bear cunt anywhere else
Gabriel Kelly
Oh? N-No it's fine if you want Doomguy more than Dovahkiin... really... I just thought having Skyrim™ in Smash would make sense it's just... y-you know it's fine just forget it....
>biggest fighting game / video game crossover of all time >heh, yeah they care so little that they push Banjo into THAT, heh...
Christian Taylor
>implying Nintendo or Sakurai want Doomguy.
Ethan Brooks
Sakurai is a Fallout fan
Henry Barnes
U mean whoring itself self out to stay relevant?
Ian Foster
Can Doomfags stop acting like Banjo is at all an apt comparison? Banjo has YEARS of fan demand behind him. Doomguy only started getting requested after Smash Ultimate was released. Neither Sakurai nor Nintendo would give a fuck to add him without fan backing.
Michael Phillips
Than make it a Palico. They could use the boomerang, lay traps, and so forth.
>if you knew anything about Joker, Which is what Soccermoms totally are when they bought little Jimmy Joker DLC. If they look like a real gun, shoot like a real gun...
Carter Cooper
Puyo in Japan, yes. Sonic in the West, yes. The games and merch get mostly bought from there.
Austin Brown
No one gives a shit about halo anymore. It also didn’t start shit other than the decline of FPS games.
Leo Gray
Nothing. People just like the character and want him in smash without thinking about how to do it. None of the REfags have thought about what a good moveset could even be.
Joseph Murphy
The thread boils down to you seething
Jaxson Davis
>Dante >Bayonetta clone This is how you know people haven't actually played DMC.
Aiden Gomez
>west gets sonic >japan gets puyo perfectly balanced
>No Doomfag has managed to post a good argument on why he is totally in the game Nah, I think I'm good.
Lincoln Martin
Sora is unironically my most wanted Smash character, even if it seems unlikely for this pass
James Wright
This. It's always just "he's iconic!"
Julian Green
It doesn’t look right...oh yes that’s why M$ is there i forgot
Ryan Collins
Nobody could argue for crash or leon either
Logan Watson
Personally I think Kingdom Hearts is dumb as shit, but I can absolutely see Sora being the finale pick. >one of the very last big and longstanding fanwank characters left, a considerable favorite request in every corner of the world >would be a big "shock" announcement, not for being a left field character but for his reputation of being perceived as impossible or difficult to negotiate/justify for Smash, alongside what a large profile series KH is >overall, the perfect pick to top off Ultimate and basically say "Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again" The big things going against him are, naturally, having to deal with Square Enix AND Disney since they're both well known turbojews. (Disney saying that they'd be OK with Sora in Smash is not the same thing as having free license to go wild with KH content.)
The moveset I understand, but I can see an RE character having good chemistry with the rest of the cast if they go for the B movie feel of the early Resident Evil games. It's really hard to be bad on purpose, though.
Jeremiah Mitchell
Well its a good thing I’m not arguing for either.
Michael Rivera
I can't think of a single most boring and sterile third party than Leon
Makes me wonder why you all go after Leon and not Jill. Although, this feel of absolute, total rejection reminds me of something. I can't put my finger on it. Is it like an animal character or something? I can't remember them, but it surely must be because they were irrelevant, had no move-set potential or would've just been a clone of an already playable character, right?
>can get the rights to dq but kh is to hard Really now?
Parker Moore
>K.Rool >third party Retard.
Kevin Richardson
>Doom Slayer can't get in because of reasons. >Other characters DO get in because they can, with no back up whatsoever.
Fucking hypocrites. If you are going to discredit the motherfucking Doom Slayer, then go on ahead and please elaborate why your shitty character WILL get in...
As soon as you say "It's because it's from Nintendo", I'll automatically label you a fucking retard.
I was backing up Crashfags, but they are talking mad shit about Doomfags pretty lately. I cannot respect backstabbing pieces of shit, since I wanted Crash and Doomguy to be in. Yeah, I am such a good human being, aren't I?
Julian Hall
what newcomers do you want user?
Carson Evans
Sora will never get in for one reason. To be accurately portrayed, he absolutely must have Donald and Goofy with him. They are not originally video game characters. Sakurai likes to make characters as accurately depicted to their original games as possible, and in the case of Sora, it just wouldn't be. Ironically enough, Goku getting in would be the biggest green light for Sora getting in.
Hudson Myers
Geralt, Dovakin, Doomguy, basically any western character, there's ton of boring characters out there
Mason Cruz
>Fucking hypocrites. If you are going to discredit the motherfucking Doom Slayer, then go on ahead and please elaborate why your shitty character WILL get in... >As soon as you say "It's because it's from Nintendo", I'll automatically label you a fucking retard. >I was backing up Crashfags, but they are talking mad shit about Doomfags pretty lately. I cannot respect backstabbing pieces of shit, since I wanted Crash and Doomguy to be in. Yeah, I am such a good human being, aren't I? Remember, Yea Forums. Hulk ALWAYS knows best. Look at this worked jabronie.
>Fucking hypocrites. If you are going to discredit the motherfucking Doom Slayer, then go on ahead and please elaborate why your shitty character WILL get in... >As soon as you say "It's because it's from Nintendo", I'll automatically label you a fucking retard. >I was backing up Crashfags, but they are talking mad shit about Doomfags pretty lately. I cannot respect backstabbing pieces of shit, since I wanted Crash and Doomguy to be in. Yeah, I am such a good human being, aren't I?
I don't even want Sora. I just why Sora WON'T get in. What the fuck are you on about?
Brody Anderson
Absolute cringe
Noah White
*explained why
Daniel Robinson
Even if people are delusional enough to expect Doomguy, it's not because of fan demand it's because he would be a neat shill pick. That people want him is a bonus.
Jayden Morales
He doesn’t need Donald or goofy kys >durrr he can’t be in because I said sooo Durrrr Okay retard go being a retard somewhere else ya big gaylord
Owen Nguyen
I asked for a simple explanation why your shitty characters are getting in... I can wait here all day.
Sebastian Murphy
That’s wat I said ya gay
Robert Moore
>muh boring moveset everyone started the same shit with fucking Hero (or erdrick) because they thought he's be "another anime swordsman" and yet has unique specials, RNG spells and critical hits, then start shitting themselves because >"HE'S OP REEEEEE" hang yourselves.
Jack Diaz
Arguable, but there were some who even predicted him as well.
You might as well put Steve in there >icon of sandbox open world games
Jaxon Sanders
Already the 1st 2 lines of your premise is flawed. >Sega Rep: Sonic and Joker(Persona) >Sqare Enix Rep: Cloud(FF7), Hero(DQ)
Josiah Jenkins
I'd be very happy if the pass ended like this. I voted for Travis in the ballot and am thrilled the series is making a comeback.
James Hall
Crashfags aren't harassing any specific group, and they aren't using a grotesque version of the character to piss people off.
Nolan Watson
I am convinced that there will be a Bethesda rep. Really don't care who it is though I have muh Banjo.
Hudson Davis
It's the same guy. Just because there's only space for two more characters in the season pass doesn't mean he can't want more than two characters in SSB. If one of them gets left out, he can always wait a few years for another game at least.
Adam Jones
I honestly hope Doomguy gets in just so you rosterfags will hang yourselves and never flood the catalog again.
>icon of modern weebshit >icon of irrelevancy It still holds up
John Howard
Absolutely based.
Brandon James
Oh shit true. He’s being more green that way.
Liam Brown
>Doomguy can't get in because he's Wester- Banjo. >Doomguy can't get in because he's too viole- Bayonetta and Ridley. >Doomguy can't get in because he'd just rip and tear every- Then I guess if Sonic got in Smash he'd be too fast for his opponents-OH WAIT. >Doomguy can't get in Smash because he's not famous in Japa- Ridley. >Doomguy can't get in Smash because he uses a realistic weapo- Joker No more goalposts to move anymore. It's fair game now.
Tbh, Bayonetta and Ridley pale in comparison to Doomguy when it comes to violence
Nicholas Bell
Someone give me the gist of Steve vs Banjo back in the early half of the year. By the time I learned what Steveposting even was, Banjo was already confirmed.
How bad was it?
Easton Torres
Smash threads were unusable for like half a year because of stevefaggotry
James Wood
>Downplaying Bayonetta's violence youtube.com/watch?v=MbgTYm_DuM0 It's pretty clear that Smashfags have never played Bayonetta.
Nolan Gray
To be honest, kind of Glad Banjo isn't going to have an autistic moveset like Hero.
This The less rng bullshit the higher the chance he's a consistent high tier character
Isaiah James
3 of these characters were the product of fan request (2 if you don't believe Bayonetta won the ballot but even then she got in because Nintendo funded Bayo 2) and Joker got in because Sakurai wanted him in. Doomguy has neither on his side.
Charles Diaz
I have nothing against Crash but does he even do anything besides jump and spin? Just really seems like there is no move set potential at all, that being said I haven’t played a Crash game since Warped came out
just make him a modded Mario and youre set and the fans are pleased, like dr mario
Asher Price
I can't wait for crash to not get in
Liam Green
No they don't. At least not bayo.
Jaxson Cox
ever played his games ? except for RE 2 hes been fucking physics up the ass
mah pic would be, Battletoads Alien soldier Rocket Knight somebody from Eternal Champions maybe ?
Angel Gutierrez
Finally a man who uses his brain, other than using "le crying bald man" and call it a "solid argument on why my shitty character has a chance".
Still waiting, You don't win anything by being a complete faggot.
Adam Perry
Seeing as all the DLC characters (and many base characters) use extremely similar or outright the same animations as other characters, if Dante got in he would just have rainstorm anyway. In fact if the the year old 'Joker pushed to first reveal hence no CG reveal trailer' theory is true, it could potentially mean Joker's already re-using Dante's rainstorm animation.
Hunter Harris
I'd really love Doomguy, but I have a feeling his only chance of getting in is in another dream match game after years of vocal support from fans in the West. At least Sakurai has played his games and understands the history behind them.
The bigger issue is that the devs dont feel like the hunters represent the franchise, like there would be no way of making a smash bros monster hunter that would be up to their standards. 100% guarantee smash team wanted a hunter but the devs made them settle for rathalos
Liam Bennett
Off the top of my head >Fruit Bazooka >Belly flop >Polar/boar ride >Crates in general (Bounce, TNT, Nitro) >Spin >Mind over Mutant (If you really want to scrap the bottom of the barrel) He wouldn't be the flashiest fighter, but they've made more from less.
Alexander Campbell
More like Cringe Bandicoot lmao
Brandon King
By this logic, NRS can claim every character in MK11 is just full of strawberry jam and get away with an E10+ rating.
When it comes to things like guns I don't think that's how it works.
>implying soccer moms even watch character trailers at most they'd either give him the money, or only see the character render
Bentley Jones
Nothing from valve though. probably will never be nothing from valve.
Grayson Turner
They'd have to have detailed in-game explanations like they do for Persona 5, but Persona 5 is already rated M anyways for a ton of other reasons.
Also daily reminder ESRB does not rate DLC, and this isn't an ESRB or CERO discussion.
Daniel Wood
I can imagine the nods to that game's crude nature... >"You're lucky I had to dump half my arsenal to be let in!" >"I know a girl/guy who's bigger." >one of the taunts is just like the codec calls but delivered by Birdy.
Kayden Hernandez
source?
Christian Edwards
It’s crazy how popular support for Paper Mario was before the start of Ultimate DLC speculation.
Capcom still has a ton of legacy franchises with potential, and all of Namco's remaining ones are shit choices.
Christopher Perez
realistic humans all have the same slim and slender tall hurtbox/body rather than a more unique form/shape like cartoony characters like Mario or Pac Man
Juan Foster
He was more of a third wheel than a real rival.
Joseph Turner
If Snake never got in you retards would be saying the exact same shit about a MGS rep
Jayden Jackson
>"Generic swordsmen are fine if it's from a game I like"
but he's not a generic gun man. He's a generic boulder man
Jonathan Thompson
He could progress through his forms as he gains damage.
Anthony Morris
>Generic Gun man This argument makes no sense when the only characters with guns use them for one move save for Inkling. This is like the retards who say that Decidueye would be a clone of Pit.
Zachary Jenkins
When will most of you niggers stop seething about the bear?
Yes because nobody fucking gives a shit about Doomguy, he's a completely irrelevant literal who. Boomers can spam "Waah influence" all they want, but the fact is that Console gaming is the only thing that matters. Nobody cares about PC games unless it's indie shit that becomes popular through E-Celebs
Brody Murphy
The last two are Alice and spyro, we know this already
Gavin Hill
>Sooo are we gonna ignore the fact that Doom Eternal is getting almost twice as much advertisement as Dragon Quest XI getting is right now?
Three Houses is still getting pushed hard and we don't even have fucking spirits from it
Ryder Cook
>Yes because nobody fucking gives a shit about Doomguy, he's a completely irrelevant literal who ... I need you to take a step back and remember how many times this argument has been used against past 1st party and 3rd party characters, and then think for a moment if it applies now based on how many times this argument has actually mattered.
Josiah Evans
What are Robin and Corrin?
Leo Foster
First party shill picks?
Justin Kelly
>Alice who?
Aiden Martinez
>Banjo-Kazooie's update also brings Smash Run >this is to nod to their collectathon origins
>Boss Rush Mode >Smash Run (& Online) >Homerun Contest & Break the Targets >Board the Platforms Hopefully they all get added eventually, this is Super Smash Bros "Ultimate" after all, we need more game modes.
If the amiibo theory is true then we should get DLC 4 around November 20th... You know what else is getting released on around the 20th Todd Howard was in the first Switch direct, Bethesda and Nintendo have a strong relationship right now and they are one of the last major third party supporter for Switch
Brody Collins
It should be “Leon Kennedy gets ahead”, because zombies.
Cooper Bell
>Capcom Rep: Leon/Jill - Resident Evil series I'd rather Dante for another Capcom rep.
Kayden Hall
>implying smash isnt kid shit
Robert Evans
You forgot >Sony rep: Spider-man
Jeremiah Johnson
Only if it is Japanese Spider-man.
Hunter Ortiz
Rayman would be a solid 3rd party newcomer and his moveset would be fun.
Jacob Flores
>>Capcom Rep: Leon/Jill - Resident Evil series imagine RE4 leon, specials would be his weapons like neutral special for his handgun, down special is the knife etc. his normals are not available until you stun the enemy with one of those specials but they would hit really hard
David Wood
>Capcom Rep capcom already has something, shit for brain dragon quest was more enix than square
Blake Lewis
>the devs dont feel like the hunters represent the franchise i need a source on that, chief
David Gray
Swords aren't the issue, it's anime sword users that plague the roster. I'd much rather take a fully armored knight over another wide-eyed weeb character
Matthew Roberts
>anime sword the issue is Fire Emblem oversaturation. they all just look samey, are about the same height and all use swords. they are the issue
Keep posting that, Somebody is probably gonna make porn of mystery fella over there.
Henry Garcia
As long as it's some good r63, i'm all for it.
Ethan Edwards
So, If Reimu would get into Smash, I think I have an idea of what would go for the tracks. 3 for the Reimu and Marisa each and 1 for each other playable character.
So it'd be like this: Reimu: >Maiden's Capriccio (Remix) >Dichromatic Lotus Butterfly (ULiL) >Mystic Oriental Love Consultation (SWR) Marisa: >Love Colored Master Spark (Remix) >Casket of Star (SWR) >Magus Night (FW) Other characters: >Lunar Dial (IaMP) >Till When? (Remix) >Faith is for the Transient People (Remix) >Invisible Full Moon (AoCF) >Beloved Tomboyish Girl (Remix) >Wind God Girl (SWR) If you wanna include the Youkai spirits of IN: >Necrofantasia (Remix) >Grimore of Alice (MS) >Septette for the Dead Princess (SWR) >Border of Life (SWR) If you also want to include the PC-98 era: >Inanimate Dream (Remix) >Complete Darkness (SoEW)
The only reason why there's 12 to 18 tracks is to estimate because DLC don't get all that much music. Even if Sakurai did borrow a whole lot of music. There would be a problem of cartridge space. And no; PoDD, PoFV, and the fighting games don't count.
Connor Rivera
touhou music in Smash. It would be so fucking hype fight with maide's capriccio or love colored master spark in the background. I would change Lunar Dial for Flowering Night.
if Persona is anything to go by we're getting 12 tracks at most, even if Touhou has the most legacy music out of every possible franchise. It's more like.
Also where the fuck are ZUN's game versions you swine
Brandon Sanchez
>Mario >Pac-Man >Donkey Kong >Pikachu >Sonic >Mega Man >Banjo >And Crash >In the same game
Better list, one for each mainline game 1. Theme of Eastern Wonderland (Remix) 2. Love-Colored Magic/Master Spark (Remix) 3. Strawberry Panic! 4. Bad Apple or Maiden's Capriccio (Remix) 5. Alice in Wonderland 6. Beloved Tomboyish Girl or U.N. Owen was Her? (Remix) 7. Necrofantasia 8. Lunatic Eyes 9. Wind God Girl 10. Faith is for the Transient People 11. Hartmann's Yokai Girl 12. Cosmic Mind 13. Futitsawa from Sado 14. Reverse Ideology or Little Princess 15. Pure Furies 16. Hidden Star in All Seasons 17. Idolatrize World
>some flavor of the week cereal mascot >Crash Crash was, like it or not, way more iconic than Banjo during his Playstation days. And that icon status has only resurged with the remakes.
Jordan Foster
Who said I was a Doomguyfag?
Ryder Myers
Good taste dude.
Xavier Jenkins
why does nobody ever bring up ratchet and clank in these threads? at all? the most obscure weeb shit chars are always mentioned but no one ever brings up r&c
Carter Flores
>sony character insomniac was just bought by Sony, so it's never happening
Oliver Wright
Imagine saying this when Banjo is the one that actually applies to. Banjo is just a furry Mario clone with one good game. Don’t know what’s up with fags thinking Banjo is hotshit now after getting in Smash.
Kayden Torres
Arle and Reimu are hardly obscure, if those are the weeb characters you're referring to.
Kayden Rodriguez
Good tastes, but personally I prefer the other list better.
Because Capcom are wishy washy with this shit themselves If you want an example Jill was recently revealed in TEPPEN a few weeks ago (some mobile shit) over Chris there's plenty of examples dating back, Jill was the sole RE rep in MvC2
Tyler Collins
So was Rachet on a Nintendo system before being bought by Sony?
Sebastian Fisher
500 shitty posts
Noah Murphy
I want Reimu but if we’re being realistic, I wouldn’t be surprised if a RE rep, MonHun, Crash, or Doomguy were to show up
See this is why I think we aren't getting a RE rep. There are like 3 different RE protagonists and each are famous for different reasons and use different arson and weapons. It'd be too complicated and unfair.
As much as I hate to say it I'm in agreement there Like it would be possible to do a Hero and have like 4 separate characters represented (eg Jill, Chris, Leon, Claire) but then the moveset has to be universal across characters. It could work in theory, but it means locking off Leon from suplexing and stuff which would be unfortunate
Jayden Bell
Exactly. It's one or none. Echo fighters are a no-go too.
Owen Brown
Went ahead and made my own roster, thoughts? There are some characters I forgot to add (Dante,Crono,Morrigan, Neku, AC MCs, Reimu) but I cant be bothered to add them atm so just remember that they're there Also I was too lazy to change or make any icons and I forgot to include the icies and isaac so I left them at the bottom
The only reason I will forgive MORE Fire Emblem and Shantae is because of Terry Bogard.
Ryan Brown
>Rayman >Travis >Hayabusa That's an automatic approval from me Also need to play TWEWY but from gameplay I've seen Neku seems like he would be fun to play too
Blake Lewis
Do you want Proto next to MM as the empty slot or at the bottom right,goes for shadow aswell
Jace Martinez
I personally think Phoenix Wright would be the most likely Capcom rep. >Visual novels haven't been repped in Smash yet >Every Phoenix Wright game has been on a Nintendo console, unlike series like Resident Evil or Monster Hunter which have exclusives on other consoles >Would be really creative just by the fact that he's a lawyer I do think a RE rep could get in, but I think Phoenix is more likely.