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i couldnt even finish kiwami. so many boring sidestories that youre forced to sit through, and its so long. als you have to mash to get up a lot which is annoying

>sidestories
>forced

what

also yes kiwami is garbage, should've played the original like a non-pleb

I'm waiting for the physical release with all three games.

>$60 port of games I already own now with less content and more censorship
If they were selling them separately I'd buy 5 for $20 just for the fps increase. But they're not, so fuck that.

>now with less content and more censorship

Elaborate.

I will when the PC version comes out.

>less content
the original Yakuza 3 was already censored to fuck. The only thing they content that they removed in the re-release is a subquest involving disgusting trannies

how do i safely buy something on psn without using my debit card directly

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This. Original Y3 localization was a terrible hackjob.
I might try to get tranny back when I'll get it on pc, but honestly who gives a shit about that chase?

Wait but I actually liked running from the tranny was it replaced with something else?

so literally nothing
awesome

that subquest lasts like 5 minutes and failing it implies Kiryu got assraped
it was removed for being poor taste
that's it.

saying the game was censored or content was cut is retarded considering how much more and better shit they restored

You're a fucking idiot.

Adding a bunch of stuff back is less content?

fuck off Barry

See or just use Paypal. They accept that, too.

>uh other stuff that never should have been cut in the first place was restored so further censorship isn't actually censorship
yakuzafags have become truly insufferable, glad i gave up on this series sooner rather than later

What do you want, a medal? Fuck off already.

>further censorship

fuck off retard

YEAH

Me too user..me too

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I'm waiting for the physical copy

>people still buy physical copies

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fucking kill yourself already

I just beat Dead Souls
What the fuck man that was some fun garbage

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This, only plebs hate Dead Souls.

>"hahaha, Majima is such a funny character, I can't wait to play 3/4/5 to see more of him"
>"hahaha, why is Majima beating his wife?"

How will ledditors handle this?

They'll forget about Majima when they see based Akiyama, the true best boy.

none of you faggots even play yakuza
fuck off

they're gonna completely re-translate the lolrape bit

I did years ago. Waiting for that physical release.

Hey man he only hit her once and she sort of deserved it having an abortion without telling him she was pregnant.

Look how fucking mad this makes you.

Nice to know he moved on.

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Unless you have played since 2007 dont talk to me.

>Hank Pym only beat his wife once
>Majima only beat his wife once

I guess It's okay to smack them around once then.

Uh actually it was before all that.

Unless you have played since 2005 don't talk to ME.

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*once a day
Well maybe Not on sundays.

y-yes sir

Ok? What do you want us to do? Nobody can force you to enjoy a game you don't like, but also nobody is forcing you to come into this thread.

Do you reckon we'll have to pre-order? I really don't like doing that but it says "limited".

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Waiting for the physical release next year. Pretty dumb release schedule for them honestly. Why not just release them one by one?

>playing past 2
If you don't play the later games, your daughteru can never get teen pregnant

>each game is getting a fresh localization
>Yakuza 3 getting all the side content that was gutted from the OG US release
>literally only one sidequest was removed in the process
>it was also gone from the JP version because the devs felt it didn't fit Kiryu's character
ok retard

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>I know a guy who ACTUALLY pre-ordered the yakuza 5 remastered edition
>mfw

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I'm not interested in buying censored games, sorry.

Fucking hell, calm down shills. While it's in no way a deal-breaker, user is entitled to be unhappy about the removal of any content for the sake of some people's delicate sensibilities.
As in, you think they'll re-record it? Would be funny if there's a new clean joke in the subtitles but the dub still says "reipu? hahaha". Wonder how they'll translate Akiyama's reference to "tranny bars".

You fucking bastard, I wanted to post this, but you beat me to it.

>less content
(You)

classic niggas

do you post stupid shit in every thread on purpose or what

If I started when 0 was released but I played in order as if I started in 2005, am I allowed?

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I already did, on the PS3, and four and dead souls, didn't play 5 tho so looking forward to that

no
loser

Already unavailable on Amazon.
The official site only links to some literal who Canadian site so I don't really know what's going on

Also
>comes with a PS3 case for Y5
But why

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Why not? For collectors

But... we played the same games...

>But why
babbys complained there was no physical Y5 release.
Now they can put this on their shelf to collect dust until they finally pack it away, and never look at it again.

I think that's because it hasn't gone up yet. Not sure though.
>But why
Because it never got physically released in the West, so they want to give people the option to complete their shelf. I think it's nice and I'll probably use it.

Look bich.
I was there through the original Yakuza 3 beg threads. We literally had to kill ourselves for Sega to release Yakuza 3 on PS3, and then they fucked it up.
You weren't there. It's like visiting Vietnam today, and telling people "you were in Nam".
We lived it.

>Yakuza 3 beg threads

never happened

>We literally had to kill ourselves for Sega to release Yakuza 3 on PS3
I'm still dead inside.

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Here's where the official game site links to for pre-orders
videogamesplus.ca/the-yakuza-remastered-collection-day-one-edition-ps4-plus-points-free-shipping-p-27183.html

Looks like you can pre-order now
But I looked on some other sites and didn't find it, so I don't really know what's up

>But why
Because 5 was digital only and leaves a gap in your collection unless you imported the JP version an official box you can stick the PS4 version in is a pretty nice thing to do for people.

stop pretending to be an oldfag
it's really embarrassing

Tell me, why do you have a tripcode? Why did we need to know that if was YOU posting and not anyone else?

I'm not pretending, I'm just fucking with him.
I played the series after 4 was released in the release order.

>all these poorfags going physical only

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digiphys master race

how long do you think it will be?

>hacked console to mod Yakuza
>still no new firmware so can't play new games
>can't leave cfw because I'll lose access to Yakuza 6 Demo
>copies of HgG and Judgment stare at me from the shelf
Shit sucks.

>ps4
no

mid/late next year

It won't come out. Too much work just so a few hundred PC cucks pirate it on release.

oh look captain faggot put his trip back on so he could pretend to be smart and knowledgeable again. get a life, faggot.

Hey, Moose, I forgot. Do you play PC ports too?

>already unavailble
It hasnt gone up yet.

>Censored sidequests
>Cut content
>Changed character models
>Same rehashed gameplay
>Same rehashed map
If you're a recent Yakuza fan and never played 3 - 5, don't fucking bother. It's the exact same shit as the modern games but worse. 3 and 5 are especially bad.

they're gone
you're too slow

go away

Got 10 copies for myself, you are too slow

Just trying to save somebody from you delusional overhyped drones. This series is more stale than Musou.

>just here to shitpost

thanks for confirming and making it easier for the mods

fuck off

0 babies talking out there ass yet again. 5 was the biggest and most ambitious Yakuza to date making 0 look bare bones in comparison. Shame about the story though.

I stated clear and accurate reasons as to why the games are bad and why these versions of the games are inferior to the originals.
Meanwhile you're making worthless shitposts that aren't even about video games.

Apart from Haruka being retarded and the ending story was decent

wheres the pc port sega

where is judgement and hokuto ga gotoku for that matter

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welcome back

>accurate reasons

No you just posted random parroted nonsense to shitpost for (You)s.

>0 babies
How am I a 0 baby when my post is talking about the older games, you moron?

5 is the worst Yakuza has ever been. It's worse than Dead Souls, which at least had some originality.
It's a shameless rehash of 4 with easily the worst story and writing in the series which barely comes together at the end, chapters are based around garbage minigame gimmicks, there are 4 or 5 cities but they're all lazily made and somehow worse than Kamuchoro, and it dredged up some more shit from 4 for muh fan service.

>acknowledges that he shitposts for (You)s
>gives him (You)s
user, please.

don't feed him

my bad

>random parroted nonsense
What are you attempting to say, brainlet?

Yakuza 3 did censor and cut several sidequests, Yakuza 4 did change the character model of a main character to an inferior one for stupid reasons. Where's the nonsense?

>Doesn't know about how Sega has been wanting to port their games to PC for a while

We'll get it within the next year or two

You talking out your ass boy.

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>stupid reasons
They have no choice in the matter. That's just how it is.

>Yakuza 3 did censor and cut several sidequests

stop spreading this blatant bullshit

Except 3 is objectively superior to the original English release and cutting three substories means nothing when it introduces 20ish new substories we never had period, all the pre-order content is available for everyone, you have the cabaret plus hostess maker when neither were in the original, mahjong, shogi, an entire retranslation by the looks of things, and probably more I'm not thinking of.
4 only swaps out Tanimura's actor and voice for someone else's because of the controversy surrounding him and he's out of the entertainment industry so they never would have been able to get him back even if they wanted to. If you're going to get mad about this then you better also be mad about Judgment replacing Hamura. If anything this is a good thing because it means he can actually return to the series instead of being a black sheep never spoken about again. Outside of this the hostesses are a mix of original and some from 3. That's pretty much it.
5's only change was also the hostesses if I remember right. If anything 5's would be superior just because they would bother to translate the things they missed on the digital copy.
To top it off all of this is at 1080p/1440p 60 FPS solid when the originals are below 720p outside of 5 running at 30 with drops. They even uncensored certain lines from characters in 3, specifically Riona.

Only for modding.

Not sure Hokuto was big enough to justify a PC release. It was just a little side thing, done in the 0 engine after 6's release.

cmon man you gotta provide a sauce for this stuff you're posting.

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You pathetic little fanboys should consider posting on Reddit if you don't want to see contrary opinions.
Nobody can be allowed to state valid criticisms of the Yakuza series now it's popular. The absolute state of this fanbase after Y0.

>valid criticisms

nice try fuckface

It literally did. Don't get me wrong, I think it's balanced out by the new stuff we westerners are getting but still.

Artist is Ayane. It's all X-Eros stuff so it's not on the panda.

Unfortunately this. I would be damn surprised if HnK made it to PC. I don’t think most RGG fans even played it. Actually, I don’t even think most HnK fans played it.

you're not posting valid anything
just spreading misinformation

neck yourself retard

Do you visit places like Yakuza modding shitcord for modding?

For the hundredth time, no I'm not buying your stupid black box over exclusivity, that only encourages the practice

pic sauce?

"Blatant bullshit" stated by the developers themselves, dickhead. All the content relating to the character Michiru was censored and cut.

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nothing was censored you fucking idiot

pic sauce

>literally

shut the duck up idiot

Again, nothing I said was incorrect. Please don't downvote my posts anymore bros!

>Not an idort

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oh no a shit tranny character that shows up for 10 minutes and rapes kiryu was removed for being lame
how awful

seeth harder tranny

Nah, I just meant in the file replacement sense. You know, throwing models from one game into another like this. Also the various licensed music mods but that's about it.

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No problem, I'll find it. Thanks.

Ah, alright. Consider trying out DoD mod for Kiwami 2, it looks really neat.

this is a good thing you fucking tranny

>actually waiting for it
you're crazy but that's still better than buying both since they're blatantly trying to make people double dip.

this isn't what censorship is brainlet

>so desperate to shitpost that you'd go pro tranny

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>It's fake! It's fake! Stop bullshitting and spreading misinformation shitposter!
>So it's real but who cares! Cope harder! You're mad!
Why the fuck would a tranny want the "offensive" tranny character to remain in the game? Are you legitimately retarded?

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>nothing I said was incorrect

moose already blew you the fuck out so leave already

it wasn't offensive
they removed it because it was fucking stupid

>Complying with Resetera's manufactured outrage and censoring your previously released works is a good thing
Extremely based and incredibly redpilled. Censoring offensive content to own the libtards.

I honestly don't know who played it. Saw someone post their RGG game collection on reddit (lol) and people were asking why FotNS was there, so it looks like a lot of RGG fans missed it. And I can't say I'm big enough into HnK to have a gauge on who in that fanbase knew about it.

Wrong thread, you retard. This post goes into "Ion Fury Shitposting Thread"

>All the content relating to the character Michiru was censored and cut.

and how is this a bad thing

Tranny substory removed because it's offensive. That's censorship.

That's not censorship.

>Self-censorship isn't censorship
>Implying Toshihiro Nagoshi even wrote those sidequests in the first place
You're a smart guy.

>People still give him (You)s
Yeah, good job on fucking up whole thread you retards.

>removing 3 tranny subquests
>adding 20+ subquests
>"cut content"

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great contribution

Oh, they're removing everything "stupid" from the old Yakuza games now?

>"Some things that were considered OK at the time are not as good as the current moral values. You know, Japan's social atmosphere has also changed a lot in recent years
>"to match the current MORAL VALUES and judgement standards."
Ah yes, what he's really saying is they removed it because it was stupid.

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>And I can't say I'm big enough into HnK to have a gauge on who in that fanbase knew about it.
Weren't they the ones who were championing it when the survey came out asking about localizing it? I'd imagine the fans of it grabbed the game at the very least, but if you didn't know it's an RGG game and are a fan of RGG then it probably flew over that radar.

>suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient".
Ok mate. Like I said, I don't really see this as a big loss on balance, but the fact is that it was cut and I'm not fond of that fact in isolation.

If you fuckers didn't start trying to argue against factual statements from the developers I wouldn't have made a second post ITT.

Wanting the tranny substory in is in no way "pro tranny". The removal of said substory on the grounds that it is offensive is "pro tranny", because we can't make fun of THOSE guys.

>literally only one sidequest was removed in the process
Actually they also remove Answer X Answer

get over it trannies

Yes, that's the definition of cut content. It doesn't stop being cut content when different content is added.

See I don't think anybody wants the transvestite in for representation.

was this removed in Japan's version?

>tranny tranny tranny
he was a drag queen, you fucking morons

Yes, along with the Answer x Answer arcade game.

Exactly. Besides, I'm a NEET and can't afford to double dip.

It was along with Answer x Ansswer, they were pretty mad. Even stuff detailing the differences between OG and HD have posts about how they're pissed content was removed which is fair because on the Japanese side they are losing content.

it's pandering to trannies
it was in there to mock them

Yes. Can't you read the thread before posting?

Tranny lost all meaning in this place just like cuck, literally, incel, etc. user sees a trap? Tranny. Someone has a gender bender fetish? Tranny. And so on.

literally the same thing

transvestite is a cross-dresser / drag queemn

At most you're getting 6 in 2 to 3 years, and a bug-ridden broken version of it, too, just like 0.
It's okay to be poor, just don't expect actual games to come out on a spreadsheet machine.

what? just finished 0 last week and it was fine 100%

Transvestite. Tranny.
Reminder that Akiyama calls Michiru's sort of establishment a "tranny bar" in the original localisation. Looking forward to see how they change that.

Wait what, does the pro run at 1440p?

What a dumb response to criticism lmao.

what was i japanese? that's what matters

>removing cigarette from cover art
>removing smoking animation
>removing tranny mockery

let me go back

1440p on the 4k mode. I believe it downsamples from 1440p at 1080p mode.
faq.sega.jp/hc/ja/articles/360018934573--PS4-龍が如く3-PS4-Proでプレイした時にはどのような違いがありますか

With the way RPCS3 is progressing, I probably won't even need an official port. That being said, if companies are willing to give us those, I'm happy to pay for better performance.

>guys my cancer sticks don't make me feel cool if kiryu doesn't smoke
Cut the middleman and swallow a razor

Oh great, 0 didn't?
Time to turn super sampling on again.

edgy

imagine getting pissy about something as minor as some dude smoking a cig, you're the kind of people that look down at their shoes when our eyes meet, faggot

str8edgy*

he's probably 15

you are a retard, it was changed due to Japanese laws on smoking and littering

Ishin, 0, and K1 were before the Pro came out so they can only take advantage of Boost Mode which kept it at a stable 60 (Outside of a very rare case if you had tons and tons of money flying) and got rid of the rare screen tearing entirely.
6, K2, and Judgment have Pro enhancements by default, I think 6 was the only one at 4k, I remember reading Judgment was at 1080p still on 4k mode? Not sure how accurate that is.

You'd never tell me this to my face, incel

it's a fucking video game..

Yeah I think DF said Judgment is 900p on Base and 1080p on Pro.

That tranny mission was dogshit anyway

now i know everything i want about 3-5 remasters
thanks moose
what can you say about combat in these games?

go tell that to Japanese law makers and CERO

I'm on my phone doing a poopoo, someone post Anri webms

Steam when?

Name a better villain from a vidya in the past 5 years

You can't

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completely beside the point

spoilers you phoneposting fuck

How the FUCK do I beat Shin Amon in judgement? Help me brehs this is my last side quest. I even literally learned how to play Mahjong just to complete all the friendships, I just can't seem to get past this guy

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Thankfully at least 3 years away, just like Judgment.

stop trying to hard to spoil this game in every thread

Sorry famalam my bad. But honestly you should avoid all threads like I did while playing the game

These threads are for people who've completed the game and want to discuss it

3 is clunky and everyone blocks
4 fixed that
5 is 0 but with one style per character

yeah these yakuza threads are for people who have played and completed Judgement!

Y3 is out again so Mine

But it's stupid. He still smokes, just not on the cover.

Judge eyes is a Yakuza game

I have finished it. Spoiler functions exist for a reason, dumbfuck.

Delete it you monkey. Just do it with a spoiler, it's not hard.

playing 3 now and it doesn't feel clunky at all

>3 is clunky and everyone blocks
this fucking blocks
fuck this im still gonna for plat
nothing can be worse than puyo puyo kamuro go challenge in judgment

If you didn't figure it out the moment he tried to pin the murder on Ayabe despite it being so obviously a set-up and him allegedly being an ace detective you're a pleb

>These threads

OP says Yakuza 3.

I knew from the first moment he was on screen and didn't flinch at all and seemed to be smiling slightly.

3 iterates on Kenzan so enemies still block a lot which is something you need to get used to.
4 improved a lot on it and it feels a lot more like the modern games.
5 experiments a bit with the characters and various mechanics but it's very solid.

Phase 1 you want to stay away. As long as he hasn't grabbed your phone the majority of attacks will just be attempts at your phone. If you keep away he will sometimes throw grenades, if you wait until he's almost primed the grenade and then start up a Flux Fissure you'll super armor the grenade and land a fully power FF on him before having enough time to run away from the explosion.
Phase 2 you want to chug a Rejuvination Extract and go into the style he is. Once he starts his high damage projectiles go into EX Burst and start wailing on him however you feel like, get off as many variants of Heat Actions as you can during this time to deal the most damage you can. The projectiles give you a bunch of Heat and deal next to no damage as long as you're in the style he's in, you die in two hits if not.
Phase 3 is phase 2 but now he takes chip damage unless you're opposite the style to him. The idea here is to stay in EX Burst, wait for him to style change, start up a combo in the opposite style to him, and abuse the fact that invincibility doesn't run out until your final attack of a combo meaning you can get to the final part of a combo, then switch to the style he's in. The problem you're going to run into here is sometimes he will have projectiles up in both styles and you get sniped during the style change no matter what.

OK, clunkier as the title after it.

isshin and kenzan when?

Same, I may be dumb for this but looking at the physical games I own makes me happy.

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>0babbies crying about spoilers
CIA, twin brother, rubber bullets, etc.

>why yes we respect women how can you tell?

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>play yakuza 3

no thanks

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I still don't see the problem.

Yea Forums is obsessed with trannies.
It makes sense for Sega to want to avoid SJW lash back over remasters.

>lash back

lashout*

>changing original content to fit your agenda
fuck gaming

Am I doing it right?

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>cant buy the game you want
>literally forced to pre-order
fuck off

It's pretty shitty of them to make it a set pack.

you can buy 3,4,5 jap version if your autism want boxes on shelf and get digital eng version
>hurrr im poorfag
your problem

Can you not buy one individually?

no, not even digitally

Well I guess it's not too bad as the full set is about the price of one game. Still scummy though.

I will.
In February 2020.

do you think ill be able to play Y4 on PC before the year ends?
I dont have a PS4 but I wanna play best boy's game again

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I doubt it'll happen before Y5 releases. You should probably just bite the bullet and get one. You're missing out on 6 bro.

yes lmao

idk man year ago i probably would have gotten one but with everything getting ported to PC i cant really justify it.
After playing K2 at 60 I dunno if I can handle the blurry 30fps on PS4 with Judgement and Y6.

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just wait then

is it out on pc? No? Then shut the fuck up.

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okay?

W-will Yakuza threads finally be good again?

lol

>FF7 Remake the following month

holyfugg

>FF7 remake
>TLOU part 2
>Yakuza 3,4,5

Gonna feels so good being a sonychad next year. As if Death stranding in 3 months weren't enough excitement.

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Park happens AFTER Makoto.

To the retards saying it's censored, it's censored MUCH LESS than original PS3 localization and this time around it's not Western censorship but censorship in Japan itself due to CERO changing over the years, the only thing removed is the sidequest where you run away from a horny tranny.
But they actually replaced it with new quest in its place where you run around with Eddy Murphy.

Are you me? Minus the "copy of Y6 staring from the shelf part".
Also hope ya enjoyed the Y6 demo seeing as I provided it.

>TLOU part 2

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where is this image from?
pic unrelated

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Someone should make a porn compilation of all the jav girls by series.

I already played it back on the ps3. No reason for me to redo everything.

plenty of reasons actually

Thank you so much again, man.

>playing Yakuza 0
>Breaker style

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Y6 runs at 1440p 30fps in 4K mode on Pro but drops frames like a motherfucker and has screentearing.
In 1080p mode it has no screen tearing and runs stable 30fps.
On regular PS4 (as in, not Pro) it runs at 900p with same screentearing and framedrop issues as 1440p on Pro.

For K2 and Judgement they removed the 1440p entirely, instead in "4K" mode it just renders in 1080p 30 FPS while regular PS4/Non-4K mode renders in 900p

I was looking for it obsessively since forever so it was just as much for myself as for others.
I just hate hoarders and collectors so whenever I get my hands on rare shit the first thing I do is upload it for everyone so people like me out there can also enjoy it.

It's also majima's best and most broken style, literally spin to win

Fuck me why do they keep bringing Amon and his bullshit moveset and overblown HP-pool back?

>you will get to platin Yakuza 5 yet again in February
My dick can't handle this

Sure, where's the PC version, SEGA?

>Everyone posting nonstop about one shitty 5-minute side quest being removed but nobody caring about the fact they recast Tanimura with a completely new actor, gave him a different face and recorded every line

The absolute state of Yakuza 0 cucks

Eh, maybe the new guy's actually better.
Could've been worse is all I'm saying.

But that was such a nothing part of the game. Who cares?

It doesn't even fit Majima and it's literally copypasted from a boss in Yakuza 5.

The new guy is unironically better and they didn't recast him because they wanted to, they COULDN'T use original guy because he permanently retired due to (false) drug accusations.

Yeah but that required topical knowledge of Japan so not even they care it was removed.

>breaker style
>not this as theme youtube.com/watch?v=MYB-D9qEwzI

So people who bitch about how it's not DMC on DMD can shut up.

still have to finish kiwami 2 dude

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I still gotta buy it. Waiting for it and the pre-order bonus to be below the price of the game by itself.

If you're playing K2, at least do yourself a favour and get the true DoD mod.
nexusmods.com/yakuzakiwami2/mods/36/
K2 absolutely raped Kiryu's fighting style.

Is it the yaoi anime sidequest?
Kiryu's VA actually did a hardcore yaoi OVA in the past.

They removed one of the worst substories in the game. I see that as a positive.
And not worse as in "I'm a tranny and it hurt my feelings", I mean it played like fucking ass.
This change is only limited to Y3 by the way. All the other games are essentially unchanged ignoring one character from 4 having a different face because the actor for him got blacklisted.

After Fist of the North Star, what if they tackle a Dragon Ball game? I would love that shit. Like same formula just with DBZ moves and world.

No thanks.

Spotted the 0 fag

Bamco has exclusivity rights to Dragon Ball videogames, so SEGA can't do shit.
Same with JoJo.

cry me a river gatekeeper

Breaker style for plebs

>Ran directly to steam to pick up my copy of Yakuza 3
>It wasn't there

Fuck sony ggers we'll get it by christmas Kiwami 2 only took 9 months since PS4 release

Can't wait to play Y5 again

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That sidequest is great.
The entire Kiryu section is pure kino, complete with taxi driving.
Y5 is my favourite and part of holy trinity with 0 and (original) 2.

Why do people hate gatekeeping?
Like, it's just curating the community so you don't get consolewar shitters and wojackposters, who inevitably show up when you don't gatekeep. Just look at JoJo's threads on Yea Forums.
They fucked up.

>unavailable on Amazon
Get fucked Amazon plebs.
Went to Gamestop to pre-order it :^)

Didn't even know Gamestop was still in business.

Freaky shit.

>Censored sidequests
Only two were removed and both were garbage. I'm sure you wanted to play another terrible chase sequence or do trivia about Japan.
>Cut content
See above.
>Changed character models
Changed one model and they had to.
>Same rehashed gameplay
No shit it's a remaster.
>Same rehashed map
You didn't play 3-5

A Dragon Ball game would work with Yakuza's style, but specifically pre-Z era. Z is when everybody started flying and shooting nameless Ki beams.
Imagine the substories

It will always make me laugh how Yea Forums has "refined tastes" yet eats up weebshit garbage assetflips like nothing

>I'm sure you wanted to play another terrible chase sequence
They are still in, they added new quests with the Eddie Murphy character to fill in the missing tranny ones.

Yes, I'm sure your tastes are way more refined, you buzzword-spewing retard.

dame daneee xDDthey put it in for the 6th time omg

Cry me a river, you pathetic loser.

I am so annoyed by people who started with Y0 and then get all uppity when they see Majima is basically a different character in Yakuza games proper.

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tsk... baka
now uve activated my heat attack and cool tattoo cutscene

I think 4, 0 and Judgment is enough Yakuza for me. They pump these out too fast. Japanese AssCreed.

Didn't really notice a difference in K1 and 2.
Is he so much different in 3 and thereafter?

guys, have you seen kuze? imagine kuze in yakuza.

Dragon Quest 7, 8 and 11 are basically this already, with 11 doubling up as Chrono Trigger 2 and the world's first good One Piece game.

Still waiting, goddammit.
youtube.com/watch?v=RdDwucaAm8Y

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Is 0 good? Its on sale and i only really played the first one.

Still sucked that it got removed, I'd soon get raped than do all the hostess stuff, still nice to see they put the rest of the side quests back.

It's the best one. Don't start with it or else.

It's very good.

Imagine being a fucking gatekeeper thread.
Yakuza fanboys are more onions boys than Nintendo. Enjoy your anual games with remaster,remakes,main games, sequel and prequel.

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Generally regarded as one of the best.

>ESL
Discarded.

Alrighty then, guess i'll drop the 12 bucks on it later, thanks

Not sure where you saw gatekeeping in my post. user said he didn't like game. I said ok.

>300
>only ~10 mentions of pc
whats going on

0 is the one that really broke the series into the mainstream. Take that as you will.
It's a lot of fun but I would argue that playing it as intended (i.e. on the assumption that you've played the others) might enhance the experience. On the other hand, nothing in the plot really has much wider relevance to the series outside of fleshing out some backstories so it's not a terrible place to start.

Not like it's gonna change anything.

SEGA already got bribed for a timed exclusive and there's nothing anyone can do about it now.

still 6 months to go

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Sony allowed this but censored dmc 5

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it's still censorship, imbecile

>sidestories that youre forced to sit through
But they are called SIDE stories for a reason, nobody forces You to do them.

Why the fuck should we complain about something we literally cannot have any influence over?
The guy did coke, got busted and he's out of japanese entertainment industry forever. No amount of complaints could bring old Tanimura back

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How much is 3 digital? I might paypig and buy it then buy the physical because I'm in such a game drought.

20 buckaroos though I'm not sure if they sell it outside the collection.

Which boss used it besides majima

>Besides Majima
Majima never used it in 5.
It's Ogita's style.
youtube.com/watch?v=GZvMdcZSnrk

Except he didn't. Some friend of Tanimura's VA uploaded a photo of him on the internet with him sitting on a couch near a table that had a bag with white powder in it. People obviously got mad at the actor for doing coke but others didn't believe it and after searching around found out that it was some kids candy powder or whatever from the bag near the powder. Tanimura's VA pleaded innocent the whole time. After this shitshow his "friend" apologized and got shunned by the industry while Tanimura's VA was invited back but he told them to fuck off and said he's never coming back since no one but his fans believed he was innocent and everyone believed his friend instead.

I'm kinda autistic in a way. It's a year since I played through the series, the only game I never touched was Yakuza 3. So I need to play through 0, 1 and 2 again before starting 3 to satisfy my autism.

>tfw was excited to play 0
>it's barely better than 5
I knew people were exaggerating when they shilled this shit.

>tfw you try to backstab your friend because you're jealous that he's more successful while hoping you get more good boy points for outing him doing "coke" but it backfires and you get shunned instead
Based karma. Sad that they all fucked over Tanimura's voice actor so much though.

The point is that it's not SEGA cutting costs, the guy is simply out of the industry forever of his own volition and they can't bring him back.

0 is good but I wouldn't consider it the best entry in the series. Most people love it because it was their 1st Yakuza game and what came after (Kiwami, Y6) were worse.

Where the FUCK can I preorder the physical collection?

>play yakuza 3
steam version or gtfo

EB Games
While I was there, I also learned Nintendo really jakcs up Switch digital prices for Canadians. Fucking $50 for SR3 when Canadian Gamestop of all places has it for $35, and I get a discount because I have one of their gay little cards

Im in burgerland, it's not on gamestops website. I'm just worried how limited this is gonna be.

Sega claims they've built up too much of a relationship with steam users to bother with Epic.

Just go in to the store mate. They usually have the things on their store computers even days before the announcement.
The two chicks behind the counter at mine even knew what Yakuza was weirdly enough. They didn't know what Disagea was though, so they probably thought I was a pedophilic weeb

Stop shilling these shovelware movie games here.

>he says this and then goes to a Rockstar thread

I was referring to Sony, not Epic.

What's making me wait for the physical release is knowing I can't buy any of them piece meal. Cause truthfully I'd rather just play 3 right now, but I also don't want to spend $60 right now while the others unlock.
Plus, the physical version comes with a case for Yakuza 5. My collection can finally be complete.

I got to beat the living shit out of that crossdressing faggot and the girl in kiwami
why wont sega let whatever is in yakuzie 3 slide?

Because it's a big hairy man in a dress and it's implied they rape Kiryu if you lose.

shit I don't want that for kiryu

Wouldn't be the first time Kiryu got raped by someone.

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That's some japanese bullshit though. Fucking ridiculous that a guy has to not only retire but also get erased because someone decided to finger him for coke.

Did they really have to remove Tanimura's actor though? Is there some law in Japan that says that?

They probably just don't want to give him money. Like when they changed the one guy in Judgement who was involved in a cocaine scandal.

>cocaine scandal
He failed a piss test but they never found any drugs on him or at his apartment. But apparently that makes him a horrible criminal in the eyes of Japanese police.

The Japanese police is a joke in their own right anyway.

They'd sooner try to sweep a case under the rug before actually trying to solve it.

He retired OF HIS OWN VOLITION, IT'S THE ACTOR HIMSELF THAT REFUSES TO LET SEGA (OR ANYBODY ELSE) USE HIS LIKENESS

>Y6
I liked it :( My only problem is that it felt short.

Did he not sign a fucking contract for the use of his likeness and performance? If not then Sega are fucking stupid, imagine if Rockstar had to get the fucking idiotic facial capture setup going again to replace some actors in LA Noire for the PS4 version because Greg Grunberg didn't want them to use his likeness?

Fucking hire better lawyers Sega.

I really liked Y6 too. I think it told a good story about what family is, which is always what Yakuza has been about. Yes it's somewhat disappointing that the last guy Kiryu faces is some desk jockey but it's a fun ride from beginning to end. I don't understand why people say the combat is bad, it'll never not be amusing to grab some chinpira by his heel and fucking giant swing him into all his buddies so they fall into the harbor.

Well Rockstar made the same mistake but not licensing the music in their older games indefinitely.

I thought it was decent but I think it had the same problems than Y3 which is a console gen change so they had to spend more time on dealing with that rather than having interesting moveset/setpieces/substories/etc.
It really shows when you compare Y6 to Kiwami 2 but then again that's just what I felt.

NOBODY does "indefinite" contracts in Japan, literally nobody.
It straight up doesn't exist in their industry because it's not a good deal for an actor/musician to sign such contract.
Old contract expired so they can't use him anymore, simple as that.
It's also why the remaster removed 5 out of 10 original hostesses.
Original Y3 had 10, 3 in Ryukyu, 6 in Kamurocho and last one was a bonus queen for doing all other ones.
In the remaster, there's only 5 + 2 are copypasted from Kiwami 2 for a total of 7 (3 in ryukyu, 3 in kamurocho and last one is the queen).

I unironically liked the final boss thematically but think he was poor from a gameplay perspective.
He works great as this game's foil to Kiryu as the son of a gangster whose father didn't want him to join the Yakuza. And he contrasts well against the other villains by being the first one for whom Kiryu shows a lack of respect, and even a hatred. The fight is really easy which allows you to feel Kiryu's anger and the difference in their power (the man vs the little baby), but as THE final boss it's a bit shitty to not give us a proper challenge.
And yes the combat throughout 6 is fucking joyous.

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Can somebody tell me why I should play the original yakuza over kiwami

>first one for whom Kiryu shows a lack of respect, and even a hatred
Kiryu had no respect for the corrupt chief of police in Y4 either.

Original Y1 no reason, original Y2 because it has better music, better atmosphere, more content (about a third of the game is cut in the remake due to it being low budget deal made only for westerners and chinks), actually accurate 2006 recreation of Tokyo, instead of Kiwami 2's being 2016 Toyko complete with smartphones, smart toilets and whatnot pretending to be 2006.

The only game where it's justified is 2.
Apparently they cut out an entire location and 2 minigames, one being Kiryu as a host.

I'd have said fuck the new dragonengine if it meant we'd get a proper remake.

It doesn't make sense to use it just to go back to the old engine in 3 anyway.

>2 minigames
They cut a lot more, but those 2 """mini""" games were actually pretty fucking big.
One is Kiryu being a host complete with its own story and about 3+ hours of gameplay.
Another is a club simulator tycoon where you own and manage your own club, buy furniture, pay wages, scout out hostesses, train them and shit.

Kiwami 1/2 are remakes, 3/4/5 are merely remasters just like the 1/2 remaster for PS3 that we never got in the past.
Said 1/2 remaster is objectively best version of Y2 btw, complete with 1080p 60 FPS and no loading times.

He also didn't fight him; he fought Daigo.

Do you mongs even play these games? The sidequest wasn't pro tranny. It was your typical mockery of okama and trannies in general.

It literally has the best two heat actions in the game. Fucking essence of blade biting is the coolest in the game, even compared to the legend styles

I wanna play Yakuza 1-2 on the PS2 emulator
What are the best settings?
Pic related, some image I saved from some thread

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>a third of the game

You have a source on that? Far as I can tell all they did was remove one area that didn't have much content in it anyway and moved some conversations that would've happened in that area.

Boy I can't wait to play slots, pachinko, roulette, and chohan again. Fuck the new games for removing those.

The host Kiryu questline still bites.

That's the one thing I was actually expecting and looking forward to ever since Kiryu himself said he wouldn't mind being a host in Kiwami 1 during his conversation with Goromin.

Location and its sidequests are gone, 3+ hours side quest story about Kiryu working as a host is gone, club management tycoon game is cut and replaced with a bare bones cabaret from 0-6.
Also a lot of side missions are either cut or simplified into one.

Slots and pachinko are the most boring games in the world. Cho Han is also pretty fucking close there, it's literally play pretend slot roulette you just have to guess odd or even.

6 didn't have cabaret.

The fact that they exist in the game forces me to do them. Only way for true niggas to play a game is 100% run.

I used to think that when I was poor and needed to get the most out of every single game I purchased but now who fucking cares? I'm not going to learn the fucking indoor golfing shit in Kiwami 2 when there's better things to play.

But he knew the situation and was going specifically against the mastermind, all of them were. They just didn't know who it was so they put the cash as bait and waited. Since 4 people showed up, they had to fight 4, Daigo wasn't even the villain there, just had his hands tied.

Those are outdated, these are the correct ones Mind you any higher resolution than the one specified in those settings, even 1 pixel more, will completely misalign the lighting and post processing, causing an extremely horrible ghosting effect.

The source is fucking being a fan of the series since its inception and playing every game to 100% completion.

He confused it with Lost Paradise I wager.

>You have a source on that?
Google "Kiwami 2 Shinseicho cut", Tokyo Harbor is also cut (that's where 2 main story scenes and Amon fights happen in original).
All the sub-locations associated with Shinseicho are also cut naturally.
Y2 sidequests count: 120
K2 sidequests count: 75
Multiple of those 75 that are returning from Y2 are actually simplified/shortened by the way, such as "The Ring/Woman in Red" quest.

Well ok, that's a bit disappointing, but at least they added that Majima mini-story.

I know, but that's my point. They avoided giving Kiryu this utterly hateable cunt in favour of a respectful duel against Daigo.

K1's difficulty is just "make the AI obnoxious" in an attempt to emulate 1's difficulty, which came from other causes.

Kiwami 1 is literally the worst nu-yakuza game. Just play 0

this.
this too, I'll be sure to continue my kiwami 2 walkthrough very slowly

Kiwami has the weird style shit from 0, which makes no sense, and locks Kiryu's real moveset behind a series of "le wacky random majima" fights meant to pander to people coming from 0.
Kiwami 2 has fucked a lot of things. The music is changed but if you're on PC there's a mod to fix that. No mod to replace all the lost content though. Similar problem with style chronology where Kiryu has his fighting style from 10 years in the future.

>the worst nu-yakuza game
That goes to Kiwami 2.

Fuck, I completely forgot that I wanted to make a mod that would remove Majima requirements from DoD.

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>supporting censorship
It's ironic how beta the Yakuza fanbase is.

The fish market is so comfy.

It's clearly 6 you dunce.

>those mat_fullbright 1 looking graphics
Jesus someone either had a really bad PC or was very bad at emulating stuff

There is no music fix for K2 yet, the mod you speak of only licenses the Crazy Ken Band licensed music, but it doesn't bring back the actual music from PS2.
t. author of the mod

Isshin getting a remaster would be awesome but lets not forget about Kenzan and that eternally awesome Sengoku Jidai setting.

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Kenzan would need a remaster, not Ishin.

It's not a third but it's pretty bad, the games still worth playing for fans but K2 is like the most overrated game in the series.
The game just feels like it was made based on fan requests, more Majiima, bring back the hostess stuff from 0, more silly side quests, make Yakuza 6 combat more like the older titles and a lot of it's just not that well handled.

Ah, just as 3, 4 and 5 aren't whereas 1 and 2 were?

They've been hinting at a full-blown remake for Kenzan, Ishin getting a release wouldn't surprise me with how much extra work they put into the 3 remaster just related to the hostess's

>Kenzan
Isshin is better tho, Kenzan is fine too but not near the same content as Isshin

For real? I was under the impression that it was released day 1, and fixed the sfx in the stabbing scene too.

Ishin has a ton of content, but there's too much fanservice and grind.

This is the issues with most of the spin of titles.
Including the remakes and 0 in that.

I'm saying Kenzan needs the remaster, Ishin is fine to go as it is.

Kenzan needs 3, 4, and 5 treatment.
Ishin already runs at 60fps on PS4.

Again, that's only for Crazy Ken Band, licensed music.
In Kiwami 2, they replaced both the original music AND the licensed music.
Licensed music was replaced by this trash:
youtube.com/watch?v=-Twv8I4ve8U
youtube.com/watch?v=hdf7gIW_hls
In stab scene, ending scene and credits.

My mod simply restores the original Crazy Ken Band songs to those scenes, while also getting rid of the stab SFX.

I didn't do shit about overall music yet for K2 because it's a lot of work and I hate K2 too much to bother.

People really love the story of 2 but after playing Kiwami 2 I was kinda scratching my head. The story is marginally better than 1 but you still have a big dumb villain who fights because... fighting, the fucking gold castle, and you have the badass "Yakuza Buster" be damselled almost immediately

Only thing worse than the story of 2/Kiwami 2 is how the writers change in 3 just disappears Yayoi Dojima, and puts Kaoru on a plane to America where she is then promptly forgotten about. I know it's a general problem with this series that characters tend to disappear without a trace between games but that's by far the worst.

I CAN FEEL THE SOUND OF YOUR BREATH.
I find both music good, sue me

>They've been hinting at a full-blown remake for Kenzan

source?

Oh sure but when it comes to translations, I'd rather they translate Isshin since the story is better, imo. Japan was going through a rough time during the period Isshin takes place in. Kenzan is just about Miyamoto Musashi and his antics

Foreign release of Ishin would be pretty easy since it wouldn't even involve any porting work. Yeah they'd probably still need some engine support to help the localizers but it's still a PS4 game.

why not translate both

M8 its sega they will probably won't even do 1

>3 just disappears Yayoi Dojima
This is the biggest shame, i wanted to see her go on a rampage with a katana some day.

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Kaoru was fucking worse. She was ready to die with Kiryu and help him raise Haruka but once she got that gig in America she was all "smell ya later pops.'

As someone who got into the series in 2008, I still don't get what people saw in 2's story. For me it was the music and atmosphere.

She should have appeared the ending of 6

>She was ready to die with Kiryu and help him raise Haruka

so which one is it

Well, I've just finished 6, so I'm gonna go through Hokuto ga Gotoku and Judge Eyes before I cop K2 on PC for one last goodbye to our boy. You've got till then.
Jk obviously but can I ask why you hate K2? I know they gutted some content but I was led to believe that it's at least decent compared to K1.

The story was overall just fun, it was action packed and did not stop mid-way to focus on some side plot for the entire chapter.

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>ut can I ask why you hate K2?
Because it's a major downgrade compared to original in literally everything that isn't the graphics?

>even Ryuji's moveset was downgraded

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>I was led to believe that it's at least decent compared to K1

dog shit doesn't smell as bad as cat shit

Ryuji mostly. It's very rare in this franchise that they actually build up the main antagonist properly, or that they don't ruin the ending by making an old fat guy the real villain. 2 does that as well but it swerves at just the right minute to save it from the brink by giving you that final elevator fight with Ryuji.

Kenzan does it the worst of them all. The whole game builds up to Musashi VS Kojiro and its one of the best boss fights in the franchise. And then you have to do a dungeon gauntlet where you kill four sumo ninjas. And then you fight the actual final boss, who is a fat 70 year old man with a gun who blows poison dust in your face and runs around a giant rock in circles trying to heal why you slash him to pieces for five minutes. Ishin learned from that mistake, you get the gauntlet first, then the great final boss fight, and then when the real villain shows up it's just a cutscene where you immediately kill him.

Still kinda baffles me that they made the final fight so much easier in K2.
I remember spending almost 3 hours trying to kick his ass but he just kept tanking everything and i had no healing items left. I also got instakilled by the final QTE even though i was expecting it by pressing the wrong button.

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>the fucking gold castle
C'mon, wacky plot points like that are par for the course.
The plot of Y2 is as stupid as every other game but the narrative of rivalry, and the two dragons motif is very kinographic.

>It's very rare in this franchise that they actually build up the main antagonist properly

They don't do this with Ryuji either. He fights you at Omi HQ then fucks off until the end of the game in the castle. Then is the final boss. Goes from wanting to take over to going on about dragon autism.

Properly built up antagonist, large variety of events in the story, good love interest that works out well, some nice action, very high stakes in the ending that don't feel like they come out of nowhere.

>Properly built up antagonist
see He's not well built up at all.

K1 is actually better than K2 by virtue of being a a more faithful remake.
Majima Everywhere is the only major flaw of K1.
The amount of horrid shit in K2 is too great to list.

>very high stakes in the ending

high stakes fake bomb

>Majima Everywhere is the only major flaw of K1

and damage sponge bosses along with the shitty kiwami system during said fights

Yea no. It's all just pandering to 0babbies with the styles and Majima, and it plays nothing like the original even with the OG fighting style.

>Goda at the Grand
>Omi fight
>Him appearing at the funeral
>Kamurocho invasion
>Dragon tattoo quest
>Golden Castle
>Finale
He appeared plenty of times in the story, though

>He's not well built up at all.
You forgot the part where he's introduced way ahead of time before you even see him, then you meet him in the club before the Omi HQ which further builds him up, he's once again build up in Omi HQ, then the entire Kamurocho Takeover which again is his doing long before you actually fight him, all culminating in the fight at the end.
He had plenty of buildup for a game of this kind.

For comparison, final bosses of 4, 5 and 6 come out of literally nowhere and 3's final boss while appearing decent amount of times earlier in the story is never even remotely hinted at being the bad guy until the penultimate chapter where he stomps over an orphanage of poor kids like a mustache twirling cunt.

He shows up at the funeral too just to pay his respects to Terada and to shit on Daigo.

>Goes from wanting to take over to going on about dragon autism.

The first time he meets Kiryu he spends five minutes talking about how they're destined to fight because they both have dragons on their backs. His intro cutscene is him going REEEEEE on one of his underlings because he called him the Dragon of Kansai. He's always Dragon autism all the time. The only time he isn't is in Dead Souls. Kiryu doesn't give a shit because dragon tattoos in the yakuza are like wolf fursonas eg. the most common fucking thing ever.

His actions at the castle is what made me like him. You're right though, he's barely in the game.

>high stakes fake bomb
>Fake
All the bombs were real, Majima's crew, cops and Tojo all work together to defuse all of them except the last one and the last one is sabotaged by Daejin Kim, it was still very much a real bomb and nobody knew that Daejin already sabotaged it.

Well that's part of the Memejima Everywhere flaw because it locks out DoD behind it.

>even with the OG fighting style
And this is how I know you're full of shit.

Your mistake is that you think that only boss fights count as appearances/buildup, further examples of which have already been pointed out.

He's around more than Nishiki, Mine, and the clowns from 5 and 6.

>And this is how I know you're full of shit.
The inability to turn around mid-combo is what made Y1's combat. It was slower, and you had to think about whether or not you want to invest in an attack, because fucking up can get you punished. To balance this, enemies rarely hit from behind, allowing you to take your time facing each enemy.
In K1, Kiryu doesn't play like this, and the enemy AI is changed to accommodate this, being more aggressive as crowd control becomes more important.
They do not play the same. Don't be silly.

>they removed Kazzy

dropped

>The inability to turn around mid-combo is what made Y1's combat.
You are a huge faggot for actually thinking this, kill yourself. I'm out.

You gonna in anyway tell me why or not? Are you really gonna argue that it's not a big difference?

>The inability to turn around mid-combo is what made Y1's combat.

Fuck off Hyperbithero, you get an ability at level 5 that lets you turn around mid combo which is basically mandatory since combat in 1 is shit and enemies dogpile on you while Kiryu has very few options for dealing with them.

One of the main improvements 2 made was making that ability default from the start of the game, the others were fixing the lock on, the dodging and heat gauge loss

Never said 1 was good. Just that it plays differently to K1.

playing 3 right now and fuck is the combat better than K2 just because hard is legit hard, it's nice to have enemies that aren't trying to take damage.
Fucking solidated my view of 3 being far better than 4.

Hyperbit, when is Yakuza K2, is bad coming out, I'm sorry, you had a point about K2, I'll forgive you calling Yakuza 4, 3 but better

You said pseudo tank control were what made Y1's combat. You then gave glowing testimony about the quality of Y1's absolutely dismal combat. Your point about the comparison with K1 is absolutely correct, I'm insulting you for praising Yakuza 1's combat engine.

The blocking in 3 is just way too tedious for me. I prefer the enemies doing way more damage, like how in the coliseum the high end fighters can melt your health bar in a single combo. I'd rather being punished for fucking up and getting hit than attack the same enemy for three times longer than on lower difficulties, not because he had more health but because half my attacks didn't mean shit. Not to mention it made timed stuff like IF fights a colossal pain.

3's definitely underrated though, and the semblance of actual difficulty is a part of why it should be more highly regarded. I like how Tiger Dropping always incurs a bit of damage in 3, the trade off for a last second counter is you get slightly nicked where the safer Komaki Parry leaves you unharmed but does way less damage.

Bro just do dodge attack bro

>glowing testimony
I apologise if I communicated that poorly, but you've not gotten the message. I don't think Y1 has great combat. I think it's serviceable and is cohesively designed but I'd take basically any game in the series over it. And yes, the controls and its limitations literally ARE what makes the combat; the rest of the design is built around them.

play mahjong

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