What do you think of Destiny 2, now that Shadowkeep is coming?

Hell, even The Division 2 is better as a loot shooter than Destiny 2

>no campaign matchmaking
literally for what purpose

It's already easy solo

You set yourself up to fail. What kind if retard thought Destiny would be a Stalker/Dark Souls in space?

its boring solo

I have 1500 hours in Warframe and about 350 in Destiny 2.
D2 is better.

Still has RNG armor rolls, so I'll keep avoiding it.

Why the armor and not the weapons? The armor is significantly less important in the long term.

I don't mind RNG weapons, that's fine. RNG armor is a whole other can of worms.

>holiday event comes out for 2 weeks
>has an armor set you grind the event for
>finally get the set after grinding for hours
>it has shit perks on it
>grind out another set because autism

shits dead mang, damn bungo shot themselves in the foot with this series. man i always thought bungie and valve would never fuck their shit all the way up, thought they were too aware and in tune with their fanbases for that.

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Aren't they adding even more RNG with the update?

quite the opposite, now you can set perks to the armor at ease

>Bungie leaves Halo to make their own shit
>Halo turns to shit
>The thing they left Halo to make is shit too

It's like when a band breaks up, and everyone tries going solo, and they're all shit.

Loot shooters are the Pokemon of FPS.

boring garbage

So who is starting when it comes out October?
How terrible is the grind if you don't want to get everything or min max?

Game is fine to play once it goes free but user, i cannot stress this enough, do not spend a single fucking penny for anything

I'll pick it back up in october if I can get a discount on forsaken. I'm not paying 80 fucking burgers just to catch up on what I've missed out

I wish Destiny had actual depth to it's character progression. You know a game was tailored for normalfags when the most significant choice you can make is which yellow item and weapon combo you're going equip.

It's rather funny how Destiny's combat is so similar to Halo, yet worse in every regard. PvP, in particular, is a babbified disaster.

holy fuck I have never hated the PVP in something as much as I do destiny. What the fuck happened

t. ubisoft shill

this. everything I hear about div2 is that it's a ghost town and every update makes their player base more upset

Why do you hate the pvp.

Destiny's in a relatively good place now, there's probably the most activities to do that there's ever been in Destiny. But I'd never do one for fun, only when I need to to get a new gun or something. Literally everything in the game is some sort of joyless grind to get a new item, I don't even listen to game audio at this point, I'd just put on something else. I really want to be done with this game but I'm probably gonna get Shadowkeep anyway.

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I can't really pin it down. Nothing feels good in pvp. The ttk is weird and none of the guns ever seemed balanced for pvp.

>Ultimate abilities
>Low ttk combined with slow movement speed
>Generic game modes
>Auto-aim on PC
I don't "hate" it, the issue is that it's an extremely dull, casualised version of Halo's combat.

Auto aim on PC? Is this true?

>how gearscore worked in div 1: higher stats are represented as a higher gear score
>how it works in div 2: giant stat range based on gearscore where an item 10 points lower can have higher stats so finding better gear is a pain in the ass
they literally went backwards from everything they should've learned their first time through

I don't know whether it can be classified as a full-on aim assist or the projectiles themselves "track", but I'm constantly landing dubious headshots,

I think it's true if you use a controller on PC but I don't know about using a mouse

Not quite, "auto-aim" is stretching things. On console there's slight bullet magnetism in general, and slight-to-moderate aim drag depending on the weapon. On PC this remains true if you play with a controller, but the aim drag is disabled if you play with mnk.

It's boring. You fight the same 3 enemies over and over with arbitrary quantities of HP according to your scale of power. Heavy guy, medium guy, light guy (sometimes flies). Over and over and over and over.

PvP was ok, but it was so overbalanced that 90% of conflicts I saw was just kill exchanges between two players.

>I thought Destiny was kinda like "Dark Souls/Stalker in space"
You could have just said you’re a retarded donkey brained downer instead of the blog post.

the blog post is just a copypasta anyway

I just googled it - youtube.com/watch?v=nEtY1COkxas

>Poorframe
>Wait 5 days to play a new frame
>Ruled by Russians
>Boring Mass Effect 3 multiplayer but you can spin around through the air
Warframe is so fucking bad I can't imagine any universe where I'd play it for a second longer

Destiny is a game for people who like to grind, it has the benefit of being gorgeous and having a good sound track too with satisfying shooting mechanics. But ultimately if you don't like grind and you don't like repeating the same activities over and over again you are not going to like this game. Simple as that.

All guns have basically a hidden bullet magnetism stat, and having better range = better bullet magnetism.

>escape from activision
>first thing they do is put exclusive shit in the eververse that you can't earn through lootboxes from playing while also making it appear on the map screen so you see it constantly

We are just a poor indie studio please buy our expansion, season pass, and lootboxes

"Dead".

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What are you talking about? It's fair game to call them out once they hit steam but as long as they're on the blizzard launcher it's still activision destiny.

>Certainly it's the best on the genre.
>Destiny 2
>Warframe
>Not fucking Earth Defense Force

Game still suffers from lack of reasonable and timely updates/QoL patches
Grind for the sake of grind
Not worth getting into

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Based EDF user

Well, at least it’s a troll and not a real thought someone had.

If the good parts of Warframe and Destiny were combined it would be the perfect game. But both of them are fucking up in their own ways.

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Played on PS4, Forsaken and Season Pass and all. Going to transfer my save and buy all the shit all over again on PC. I am not proud of this.

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>Certainly it's the best on the genre.
That would be Warframe

what y2 stuff are you planning on doing after switching? You can still use all your gear that you've got on PS4 on PC, so unless you really want to rerun last wish, scourge and crown there isn't that much point to rebuying it.

SHAME! SHAME!
shame this man

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loot's bad and endgame content is clearly intended for playing with friends

This thread is further proof that Yea Forums doesn't play video games and never knows what it's talking about.

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Shadowkeep is the only option on the Steam page so I assume it'll come with the rest of the content

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division is better. destiny artstyle makes it feel kiddish

Yeah, it should come after Shadowkeep's launch. I assume its not on Steam right now because Forsaken is still under ActiBlizz legally.

>"ART DIRECTION BAD"
>"REALISM GOOD"

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Either way, according to that image I posted, you can just go straight into Shadowkeep, no Forsaken required so that'll help a bit

K you got me. Enjoy your superhero capes

well, Mr Wiazrd of wisdom, tell us how to have fun then.
Im sure there are games you play that i dislike in the same way

>>ruled by Russians
>not being one of those Russians
aнoн...

i will
Thank you for being so polite

and your p2w mechanics

Of all the things you could criticise Destiny 2 for, you chose the aesthetics?

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post some of the cartoon enemies

Are you retarded? Destiny 2 has literally zero, zilch, pay to win mechanics.
The only things you can buy with money are shitty cosmetics you can get from playing the game normally, and exclusive weapon skins.

The the Division have an aesethetic or clear visual style other than 'realistic'? It just looks like TPS Call of Duty to me and I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

Idunno. I just feel like there are still some comfyrolls and exotics I want to work towards, maybe even some specific activities I want to do from time to time. But maybe I'll occupy myself with the Shadowkeep stuff and wait for the old to inevitably go on sale.

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ok I'm mistaken grind 2 win. I only played it for a few days. dont get how people can enjoy doing the same boring missions over and over again.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Shut the fuck up.

At launch you just do your weeklies on a Tuesday and the play something else for the rest of the week. You can still do that now but it'll take more than a day unless you no life it.

try and make me bitch.

You know if Titan didn't have the stupid helmet antennae or the can opener on his left shoulder this'd be a decent set.

A game with shit art direction?

>grind to win
That's more like it, literally this game is all about grinding.
You're not supposed to play it for 8 hours every day, unless you have a mental illness/addiction to grinding.
I just play a few hours every now and then and get together with friends on friday nights to play some activities while talking.
It helps not having crippling autism.

The Dreaming City armor for titan is breddy gud.

I know you not allowed to praise it in any way on Yea Forums but Borderlands is so obviously better than any other looter shooter game

well there are a couple of aspects
its a mindless activity that you can easily memorise so eventually you use it to socialise with friends
"hey wanna grind x mission"
you chat and fuck about and make some jokes
one of you gets the item
the other stays.
or you could slap a music playlist or podcast on and relax.
I wouldn't expect 10/10 story unless your a lore nerd that enjoys spending 100 hours reading additional material (some of it is pretty interesting)
Some games aren't for everyone and that's ok

I can't get over the cringe writing/humour and the ugly artstyle.

You do whatever activity rewards the item you want. You want raid gear? Do some raids? You BA gear? Do some forges. You want some Reckoning gear? Fuck you.

I don't know how this compares to The Division but one RPG-lite live service loot shooter ripping on the other has to be a pissing match.

>The Dreaming City armor for titan is breddy gud.
That's just reskinned blues. Last Wish titan armor is sick though.

I'd agree if the gunplay could hold a candle to Destiny's. Or if it had stuff like Strikes and Raids

>reinstall BL2 because of the final free DLC
>remember everything in the main campaign
>can't skip cutscenes or lines
The dialogue gets old after a few playthroughs and you can't even skip it. Then again I played it to hell and back already.

>You want some Reckoning gear? Fuck you.
Triple fuck you because I'll probably go for Reckoner just to out autism Dredgens, and Reckoning is shit.

The writing and gunplay really put me off it

Not him, but I wish Borderlands had a lore collection like Destiny does. Only, you know, handled by decent writers.

the writing has actually been very dry since they killed off the only comedy relief (who they overused to no end during the story)
and is taking a darker tone for the next expansion.
Cant stop you disliking the artstyle

Thats the thing from my play time no one was social. I only play the first division and people actually talk on it.

They're buffing drop rates soon I think. Also how often do you see leavers in prime?

i feel like borderlands shouldn't have had a sequel
the 2012 lol randum XD writing was a product of its time and aged poorly in my view.
Of course making autistic limited builds and seeing how quickly i can burst a boss down will never get old

Bloodsplosion Krieg is fun as fuck

Seeing 999999K damage after a chain reaction never gets old

Not very often, but it's a constant swarm of afkers. It's both good and bad because the massacre medals for reaper is my first struggle and there's less competition for them at the cost of being able to progress the wins.

i personally want local voice comms to come back to games in general
divison did show it would be used
You gotta go out of your way to add people as friends and ask em to do stuff with you, most people now are conditioned to just soloing stuff.
Getting a small group to do raids with and other stuff in spare time is well worth.

You don't see as many leavers as you see AFK bots.

I haven't played the first one in like literally a decade but I remember the tone being definitely darker than its sequels. Guess they hadn't decided which direction they wanted to take it. Then along comes fucking Anthony Burch.
At least we're not Anthony Burch.

Not proud to admit I basically AFKed all my Gambit matches for the solstice gear.
FUCK GAMBIT

I think the entire looter shooter "genre" is garbage and nothing but a mindless time waster.

>mindless time waster.
videogames

>mfw 50 bounties and 75 PVP Arc Weapon kills
This is gonna fucking hurt.

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All video games are mindless time wasters

Too much of the good content is locked behind paying for the DLCs. And they keep releasing more DLC (which I get, it's an MMO) but they keep charging absurd amounts for it; which gatekeeps you, which locks you out of the best stuff (and also can lock you out of certain weeklies/etc). And all the base content isn't amazing; it's fun and can be good, but you basically NEED to buy every DLC to have fun.

Also if you aren't playing with friends it can be lonely/boring. Plus the best content, Raids, are locked behind forming bigger groups which is a hassle/can be annoying/there's no matchmaking.

I like Destiny, but I want to love it. I desperately hope D3 is better; if I even get it at all. Also they should stop with the "buy game day 1 it's shit must wait 2yr before all the good updates come out" thing.

50 bounties sound daunting but it can be done. You have 18 daily planet bounties plus a shitton more from the Spider. And that's before vanguard/crucible/gambit bounties.

For arc weapon kills just use riskrunner. Also kills by your team count.

So distant and cool.

what ideas would you add to make it more worthwhile, i mean, the core loop is proven to work, any gimmicks or additional mechanics make it interesting for you?

Distant, cool, and objectively correct. Which is the best kind of correct.

Gambit is unironically one of the most fun MP modes I've played in a long while. The problem comes from the random players (if you aren't playing with a clan/friends).

>Don't shoot enemies
>Don't collect orbs
>Don't fight invaders (just hide or die instantly)
>Meekly fight the bosses; but don't ever fight the mote bank defenders "lol let someone else do it"
>No coordination about what to attack, when to use supers, who banks when, etc
>And more

It would be easier and more fun to dive head first into a running woodchipper and try to survive by sheer force of will than it would be to play random Gambit.

That shit ends with shadowkeep, armour rolls with random stats but you can now put any mods on your armor

I like Gambit too but my issues with it stem from the imbalance in roles. It's PvEvP but it's clear the Invader is the most important person in the match.

pretty shit game
gameplay is boring beyond salvation

Yeah the balance is kinda fucked. Plus certain classes work for being the invader way more than others. Also, I played back when (it could still be ongoing even) there was this machine gun in the meta. It was some MG that would kill in 3 hits; only 3, no matter what. And it shot super fucking fast and had super long range and was extremely accurate. 80%+ of my deaths in gambit ever where from Invaders who used that MG. It was pretty bullshit.

I basically only play solo because all the people I used to play with all have had schedule changes and I have to solo queue Gambit.
It's the reason why I just said fuck it and decided to AFK the 10 gambit matches for the solstice gear. Most infuriating experience ever.

>randies hoarding motes but not banking
>enemy team about to invade
>two randoms with 12 motes each
>clearing the bank so they can come back quick
>they decide to try and get 15
>INVADER INCOMING
>it's another hunter virgin with a Hammerhead
>RANDIE RETARD #1 HAS LOST 15 MOTES
>RANDIE RETARD #2 HAS LOST 13 MOTES
>THE ENEMY TEAM HAS A PRIMEVAL
>manage to summon our own primeval
>randies just straight up don't shoot the primeval or the envoy, just fuck around, hide behind a pillar or keep trying to get motes (???)
>enemy team melting their primeval fast as fuck
>ours has over 70% HP
>round ends
>45 enemies defeated, 50 motes banked, 6 guardians defeated, primeval damage 45%

RINSE AND REPEAT EVERY FUCKING MATCH
FUCK GAMBIT SHIT FUCK MOTHER NIGGER FUCK I'M NOT EVEN GOOD AT THIS GAME AND I STILL SOMEHOW MANAGE TO ALWAYS GET PUT WITH THE MONKEYS

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The Hammerhead from Black Armory.
Biggest cancer in the game, next to Truth and Thousand Voices.
Every virgin coming to Gambit to flex on randoms with their Mountaintop/Revoker, Recluse and Thousand voices.

I feel you on the motes lost. The amount of randoms that sit there with 10-15 motes and NEVER bank is insane. Like they fundamentally do not understand what they are there for.

Or the retards that are holding 10+ motes but never bank when we only need 1-9 motes to summon the primevil. I mean, maybe they're trying to get 15 to get the Large defender but it doesn't make sense because getting the evil out and killing it is more important.

PVP in this series has always seemed fucked up. Why power levels and weapon stats matter in it is beyond me. It should have 2 modes, one where levels and power means nothing and all weapon types function exactly the same and one where levels do matter and weapons do different things. I imagine the former would be more like Halo where each pistol does the same thing, each AR does the same thing, etc. It would be more fun that way I think. And for the piss babies that want to do cancer shit like double thorn shot kills every single game or Hammerhead every second could still do it in the other mode.

Outside of invasions with power ammo+supers ready the mode could work if it didn't depend on needing a stack. Half the time even when you get people who are playing (afking still a current issues) they're often working against you if only because Bungie's bounty+pursuit design has made it counteractive to actually play the match regularly and not just have a laser focus on the bounty or pursuit.

I thought power levels didnt matter in pvp except for iron banner.

i've never played this series but watching lore videos is pretty cool.

the vex and the big space marines guys are the more interesting enemies imo.

They also matter in Gambit and Gambit Prime.

Could be dece

They dont but the weapon stats matter. If you have a handcannon and so does your enemy, if you both shoot each other, and his is faster, you will lose every single time without fail. You and your teammate can both have shotguns but his can have longer range because "reasons", etc. Its just supremely unfun to get ass blasted every game because you arent using whatever meta meme gun is the new hotness. Plus some weapons are just useless (handguns, bows arent amazing, most smgs are terrible, etc).

Id prefer it was like Halo where every weapon type was exactly the same functioning way regardless of what it was.

It’s like an extremely handicapped Diablo 3 with even worse loot and without the personality from Borderlands

I think you should post guardians

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They do matter.

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I only got 1 on this laptop though.

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Damn

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I quit permanently with the introduction of the new eververse.
It's badly designed and nigh impossible to find what you're looking for. The seasonal cash shop engrams contain year 1 eververse shit. They deliberately tried to force you to buy things with silver.
On top of everything the new cash shop has horrible microstutters. The game will die when shadowkeep comes with fortnut style battlepass shit.

See Im tempted to play D2 when it becomes free on steam. but I already feel burned by Bungie even after knowing Activision cunts have fucked off (hopefully 3 doesnt have any of their shit) due to Destiny 1 a few years ago.

Is it actually any better than the first? Like I loved the visuals, could put up with the shit lore, and didnt mind the pvp (fuck golden gun spam) even if it was worse than halo and Id actually have people to play raids with if I convince friends to play it. But I dont want to get burned again or be the only sad fuck out of my friends who plays it which would be fine but Ive heard theres still no raid matchmaking etc.

The free content is not worth it. The only “worthwhile” content is the Forsaken expansion, even then it still fails to deliver consistency in quality. Destiny lacks many quality of life adjustments that should be mandatory nowadays, there is no proper in-game way to find people for 90% of multiplayer activities, which give the best loot. People use a third-party website made by some random autist to search for parties, even then it is filled with elitist retards who won’t let you in unless you have X weapon

>The genre is bad tho. "Shlooters" are weak all of them
There are some really solid shooters on PC
>Destiny 2 is the best in its genre
It's one of the worst. You haven't played many shooters have you?

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>calls destiny bad
>posts boomercore trash gunplay RS2

Yikes

Contain yourself and get back to your cucksole shootan kid.

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RS2 has trash gunplay dude. Only a brain rotten boomer retard would think it's any good.

>calls RS2 gunplay bad
>while playing Destiny and possibly shit like Siege and Overwatch
zoom zoom

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Nah, good gunplay is Quake 3/Live/Champions, Battlefield 4, Destiny, Dirty Bomb, Titanfall 2 and plenty others.
Arma, RS2 and other boomercore rotten brain garbage is not good gunplay. The fact that you compare Destiny 2 to Overwatch just shows me how stupid and ignorant you are. And by the way, Siege is a lot like RS2 in terms of gunplay.

rs2 is fucking great you gamer

>got this garbage for mid last year
>played it a bit
>in a horrific lapse of judgement bought the first DLC pack
Biggest blunder I've made in regards to game purchases in years, god this game was shit. I feel sorry for the grizzled veterans at Bungie who're stuck making dross like this.

of course inbred retards like you think so because your IQ going in the negatives struggles something primitive as recoil

and that's good, I hope you stay in you casualshit containment games

got this garbage for free mid last year*

this games filesize is ridiculous

t. low IQ mongoloid nigger that can only understand gunplay in terms of recoil

I'm done with you. Guaranteed you're trash at every FPS game you play, boomer subhuman.

>gunplay is recoil
my condolences to your mother, it must be hard trying to raise a vegetable

>I'm done with you
Well, you got hurt in a record time.

Why are boomers so low IQ and so bad at videogames that they have to substitute all their skills by playing slow campy games with nothing but one shot rifles ADS garbage.
You would be literal bottom feeder gutter trash in Quake.
Milsim boomers are literal subhumans.

Cope with your 500ms reaction times, retard.

>Siege is a lot like RS2 in terms of gunplay
You must be some special kind of retard.
>Quake 3/Live/Champions
Those are arena shooters. Were pretty cool back in the day but have been surpassed by better shooters.
>Battlefield 4, Destiny, Dirty Bomb, Titanfall 2
Those are casualshit shooters. I played all 3 of them for a while and the Destiny 2 beta (on PC) which was ass. These games start to get boring after a while though when you end up top of the scoreboard every time. They're just too easy. I quit TF2 after 60 hours of playtime, Dirty Bomb after 40 hours and BF4 after 100 hours or so.
In RS2 I have over 350 hours but I keep coming back because the RS games are actually challenging without going full autism simulation mode and still keeping that arcadey type gameplay the old skool BF games used to have.
>ARMA sucks
agreed, fuck tank controls

You're still a retard.

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Post your RS stats retard, guaranteed you're trash.

>he just keeps getting more assblasted every post

Seething shit for brains.

>Siege is a lot like RS2 in terms of gunplay
Nibba u dumb AF

Gunplay is solid. Shame weapon variety is terrible and PVP is garbage.

>Gunplay is solid
By console standards maybe.

>Certainly it's the best on the genre
that isn't saying much

just play warframe Yea Forums

Gameplay is pretty braindead outside of some puzzle minigames