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Pick one and only one.

where is that implied? I said ideology in general, not MY ideology.

Form of media then, if that suits you better.

Fuck off back to redddit

This is not your safe space.

based image, people are retards, YouTube's algorithm is dogshit and encourages loud idiots to generate fake controversies, Yea Forums died in 2013, etc etc

If it doesn't call out the Jews, it's not redpilled.

>There's a difference between political setting/theme and political ideology
No there isn't.

>fictional story
>fictional story (in a setting far removed from our own)
>fictional story (in a setting far removed from our own)
>rewriting history in an incredibly explicit and hamfisted way in order to push a hot-button narrative

one of these is not like the other

Yes, it is.

Oh, ok. I'm gonna leave now.

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Yea Forums died in 2014. Gamergate killed it.
Not that it was in particularly good shape in 2013.

Yes there is. Trying to present politics in a game world is fine, as long as you try to make it bias free, or bias it equally in both directions. It should never be 'religion is always bad' and that's that, well done politics in games will allow you both perspectives on a narrative and allow you to make the decisions.

When you have something, especially about modern day issues (religion, feminism, actual politics, etc) and present one side as arbitrarily correct in your narrative and nothing else is allowed/acceptable, that's using video games to present your real life politics. A subtle but important distinction between propoganda and just developing an intricate world.

It's important to note that there are exceptions though, especially in comedic or non-serious games. Nobody cares if some jrpg paints the church as the ultimate bad guy when they're magical, empire crushing madness or something. These arguments only really apply to serious or dramatic representations

It's not like Battlefield is trying to be immersive. Besides, I think you can compare Battlefield to Assassin's creed in that they're both set around real events but take big liberties with realism and historical accuracy.

The people pointing out politics in video games quite obviously mean when the political stance is represented in something out of the ordinary and doesn't benefit any narrative. If you make a WW2 shooter than tries to conform to realism, but make the soldiers strong women because you think they should be represented, you're not making a political story, you're forcing your belief in to something that doesn't benefit from it.
I don't give a fuck about politics in games, but comparing political storytelling to something that honestly just comes across as a marketing plot to get attention online by making unnecessary "statements" to win points and irritate right wingers is stupid. If things like making Ariel black in the live action Little Mermaid didn't easily incite braindead debate and market itself, it wouldn't happen.

meh, without religion we'd be traveling the stars by now

except assassin's creed is, at its core, an almost entirely fictional, sci-fi story that is, at best, loosely based on real life historical events and characters. it's got a futuristic backdrop, all sorts of made up characters and secret societies and magical artifiacts, and it's got aliens in it, for fuck's sake.

BFV flat out took a specific, real-life event (the Norwegian heavy water sabotage) and wrote out all of men that actually did it in favor of pushing a singular, strong female character, clearly with an agenda in mind. obviously, people are going to find that sort of thing grating, particularly when you consider that, by and large, women did not serve in the military in WW2 (or in most human conflicts for that matter). BF might not be the most true to life game out there (and nor are most WW2 shooters), but they are nonetheless representing a real life event and trying to be -somewhat- true to it, if somewhat embellished.

notice how effectively nobody has ever complained about female soldiers in another game in OP's image: halo. because, it's a fictional setting, and their inclusion feels organic, rather than hamfisted and backed by some kind of ideology.

Act mans problem wasn't that game creators puts their politics in their games and people discuss the politics which is in the game, his problem was people using games as a way to spread unrelated politics. Like for example smash ultimate was spammed with a bunch of pride flag stages or a more recent example ion fury was being heavily used by people to talk about trans and censorship because two devs said something about trans people which was completely unrelated to the game

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The problem comes is why do you care so much? Why does it matter that they added women? It's literally just a marketing ploy to attempt to broaden the buying market of the game. They push a hot button issue not to spread an agenda, but to simply try and get more people to play the game.

It's also not re-writing history since no one is going to use it as a reference point in the future. No one person is going to use this to teach in classrooms.

Besides all of this, the actual issue comes with little critique of gameplay because everyone is so focused on a made up boogieman. Admit it, did you even play BF5?

Who is going to play a battlefield game becuase they saw a woman and not becuase it’s battlefield? The controversy itself is what they want and you’re right in that aspect just not in the same way. You’re right, the gameplay is the same since 3’s watered down bullshit. 4 was even the same exact game but with hilariously bad maps.

>hey, push the progressive angle, get people talking about it. If you don’t like it it’s becuase you’re a misogynist incel. It’s a red herring

> I have the argumentative skills of a cashew and can't refute anything he said.
> Im going to ask him why he cares instead. That'll get him for sure.

>Video games were NEVER politica-

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This game is basically socialist propaganda

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>FFVII - pro-environmentalism, anti-corporation
>Tales of Vesperia - pro-environmentalism, anti wealthy elite
>SMT Strange Journey - pro-environmentalism
>SMT in general - anti-organized religion
>FFVI - pro-environmentalism, anti-industrialization
>FFX - anti-organized religion
>MGQ - intolerance is caused by organized religion
>Tales of Symphonia - anti-racism
>Tales series in general - anti-discrimination
>Sonic the Hedgehog in general - anti-industrialism/pro-environment (save the animals from the evil machines)
>BOF II - anti-organized religion
>Grandia II - anti-organized religion
>FFT - anti-organized religion
>Valkyria Chronicles - anti-racism against Jews, anti-imperialism
>Spec Ops - anti-American interventionism/exceptionalism, anti-war
>Mass Effect -pro- (genetic)diversity, LGBT
>Fallout -anti-American jingoism/ultranationalism, anti-nuke
>Fallout 2 -explicitly anti-Scientology, anti-American jingoism, anti-Republican
>Civilization (in general) - anti-Republican
>Oddworld in general -anti-corporation, anti-industrialization, pro-environment
>Doom - anti-corporation
>Ratchet and Clank - pro-environmentalism, anti-corporation
>Mind Forever Voyaging - anti-Reagan
>Alter Ego - anti-conservative
>Bioshock - libertarianism and Randian utopianism ultimately fails and turns into a dystopia
>Halo (in general) - basically an allegory for post 9-11 fundamentalism
>MGS1 - your genes don't actually matter/define you
>VtMB - anti-Bush, anti-Republican, anti-elite
>Lunar Eternal Blue: anti-organized religion
>Assassin's Creed (in general): anti-organized religion (Templars are evil), religion is also a lie
>Arc the Lad- anti-organized religion
>GTA (in general) - le both sides are bad
>SMTIV - individualism bad, collectivism good
>RDR - pro-feminism, anti-racism
>Fire Emblem - anti-ultranationalism, anti-racism
>MOTHER 3 - pro-environment, anti-industrialization, anti-capitalist
>Catherine - pro-LGBT
>Fear Effect - pro-LGBT
>MGS3- pic related

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>Straight white males are bad
There are virtually no games that do this. """Identity politics""" is just you getting butthurt when a black woman pops up on the screen. Ironically it is you who are engaging in identity politics by getting mad about it

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Kinda off right? Game rips on almost every religion or pokes holes in it. But not jews. Least not that I remembered

you know there's a board dedicated to discussing politics right?
go there and never come back here