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Dark Souls 3 gets worse the more I think about it but Dark Souls 2 gets better the more I think about it.
Yet, I could never see myself preferring 2 over 3.

this, but unironically.
shut the fuck up, nigger.

>Armored Core died for this zoomer trash

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>shut the fuck up, nigger.
Make me you little manlet bitch

These games are utterly soulless. Brown and drab mess.

Dark Souls 3 is garbage in every way.

fpbp

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Demon's has such an excellent art style, it still looks great even on PS3.

I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW ANOR LONDO

You are garbage and your parents hate you.

SOTFS = BLOODBORNE > DS3 > DS2 > DS1 > Sekiro > shit > Demon's Souls

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My parents like him.

This is some pretty bad taste but still pretty based

What tower? On the left or on the right?

This taste is fucking horrendous.

>ds2 and scholar above anything
>demon's below anything

I want to protect the DS3 firekeeper

worst starting area

Mechanically, this game was too much like BB for me. Loud annoying enemies flailing wildly, best way to fight is to hit the super aggressive enemy before they hit you and R1 spam to stunlock them. Repeat for every enemy.

>Loud enemies

Name 5

cry more ACfag

this is dark souls 3? the graphics barely look any different than the first game

BB > DS1 >Sekiro > Demons > DS3 > DS2

I thought we already had this thread today.

>resorting to fucking jumpscares in Irythill Dungeon

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What's so bad about Dark Souls 3 other than the linearity?

Anyone else finds it extremely lame how you just port to high wall of lothric?

old gud
new bad

it's boring to play

Okay you ready.

Sekiro>DS1>Demons>BB>The Surge>Lords of the Fallen>DS3>DS2

A bit. They could have connected it to the shrine, or even the untended graves.

compared to the previous slower games?
I think not contrarian

>never played DeS

shocker

>never played DeS

shocker

what an amazing game

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I like that it's fast paced, but I do feel enemies are just a tad too aggressive.

I did but I still think it's a poor design choice when Lothric is this close to the shrine.

>implying circle strafing and back stabbing is any better

i dont get it

those are still quite viable in 3 so I don't get what point you're trying to make

demons souls nexus fit that way narratively. not quite the case with ds3

games cannot have glitches user. how dense are you?

what glitch though?

>is not majula

Cringe

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the worst are the dogs before the chapel. They can just randomly teleport on top of you

too big

running through the banister.

>try tongue but hole

out fucking skilled

>Clean, beautiful aesthetic
>Comfy ass music
>Feels like an actual safehaven
>Survivors actually liven the place and don't literally sit and mud and puddles
>Best lvl girl

Demons is so based

This. Also PvP is a fucking joke with people rolling around like balls of turd and their I-frames while doing so were way too long. Poise being tied mostly to weapon attacks instead of armor was stupid too, combine the two and as a result juggernaut builds were simply not viable in pvp.

horse

why

don't forgot dodging/rolling taking next to no stamina like BB

also poise is retarded
as much as I dislike 2, it got poise right

Best tutorial area in any Souls game

Irredeemably shit taste.

>mejulie

fuck off ali g

guys i have a question: from firelink shrine we see lothric castle from back, right? i´d like to map every location we see in ds3 but i´m not sure.

No, games shit. But I'm playing through the Cinders mod right now. It's actually makes the game pretty decent. It's amazing how much the bonfire placement ruined so many levels.

Yes

>"hub" isnt even connected to the world
>tries to copy DeS circular hub but only 1 thing to exit from
Its like they tried as hard as they could to miss the point of a map hub.

jesus, people shiling the cinders mod as good need to fuck off

>Cinders mod

garbage

Ah... Home.

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ty

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better than vanilla.

>Cinders mod

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>Cinders mod

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What's Cinders mod? What does it add?

>Durability exists!
>Durability has been changed so it is now actually possible to break your weapons if you attack without care. The intention is that weapons will last between bonfires, but if you skip bonfires you'll start to risk your weapon. Remember that you can use more than one weapon and that Repair Powder exists.

>Where is the Grand Archives Key?
>The Grand Archives Key is now by the Lothric Knight in the room that immediately follows the Dancer of the Boreal Valley. This means you can enter the Grand Archives without having to defeat the other Lords of Cinder first.

>Where is the Small Doll?
>The Small Doll is dropped by the Sulyvahn's Beast on the bridge in the Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, so don't worry about having to go to the Cathedral of the Deep for it.

Sounds worse than vanilla to me.

I like the graphical fidelity of DaS3 but it's so fucking brown and dull looking except for Irithyll, it's gross

So how am I to believe that this is NOT bait?

it's fucking shit
don't bother

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G-guys...

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The older games let you choose where you wanted to go for the most part.
You could handle any of the great souls/lords in any order.
Das3 a shit and I didnt even know until I wanted to do archives early yesterday just to realise I coudlnt despite handling dancer finally.
You'd think a boss would be enough gatekeeping but nope.

Hi Max

okay

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Not bad for a trip tranny.

>people hating on the Cinders mod

you guys are so fucking pathetic, mod is fun as fuck, 10x better than the garbage ass vanilla game.

kodamas are bros

If you really wanted to know you'd google it you fucking retard.

repeating something to yourself doesn't make it true you autistic faggot

Adds cut content, changes bonfire placement and enemy placement, lets you progress at a different rate. It also adds alot of items that will make the game too easy really early if you start min/maxing

Durability should NOT exist in souls games. It's a vestigial mechanic from survival games, where item management is part of the gameplay and means something.

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>waahhh i hate everything and everyone, am i cool yet Yea Forums??

kys you fucking mongoloid cretin, you people who just hate everything for the sake of hating are ruining this board.

it basically doesn't exist, even in the mod. It just makes enemies that break equipment more of an annoyance.

The idea is solid but the key placement is retarded.
Doll should be in the crucifixion woods guarded by the black knight, and the archives key should be in the untended graves.

>Cinders mod
Dumb faggot
It's not

I guess you're right

Cinders is trash. If you want a good Dark Souls mod play Prepare to Die again.

just fucking use CE or a trainer for infinite durability

Hahaha bully him more!

It dosnt know what it wants to be. Its like BB but with the option to block, but you dont attack as fast and even fat rolling is normally better than blocking. Even using a massive fuck you greatshield is normally a poorer choice than rolling. Then there is no poise which makes it even more like BB. Enemies have infinate stamina and are fast as shit which again makes it better to just roll instead of block. Then magic fucking sucks and its inly somewhat viable if you get the right items, and miracles are a waste since you can just uses your flasks for healing instead of splitting them. And if you focus on dodging it looks retarded since there is no quickstep lile BB so you just look like a knight rolling around like a fucking idiot.

This game lacked focus but i still put it above DaS2.

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nice overreaction

Nice reddit spacing

>gets assblasted into oblivion
>h-hehe y-you s-suck!
kys

>Adds cut content

such as

okay honey

What's wrong with ds2, autism-San?

What makes Cinders so bad?

>firelink shrine isn't connected to the rest of the world physically

Yea not my firelink, bitch.

You do not see whats wrong with DaS2?

seething

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Well think about it more because it'll eventually all click.

>not the hunter's dream

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yep keep going

old.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ahwshw/dark_souls_3_original_plot/

imgur.com/a/yEcES

Only the durability bullshit. You have more rings to use, more weapons (even Bloodborne weapons), more spells and all areas are way fucking better because of more enemies or new enemies. Don't listen to the fucking idiots saying that it is trash, it's easily 8/10.

Majula will always be a better hub.

tries to make the game less linear and fails

adds stupid unnecessary shit like

Theres no actual content in 3 that holds up other than a few boss fights an decent online.
2 has tons of neat mechanics and secrets hidden all over its world yet the clunk and stupid online retardation made it unplayable for half the community.

So 3 is the one to play but 2 is the one to like.

At least it was before I fucked everything up

>linking redit

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But the stupid shit literally makes the game less linear by allowing you to complete more areas out of the "proper order"

No, only played ds1 and 3.

k ill link sheeky forums next time

Based fat fetishists. I'm fattening my gf right now irl and it's much better than your faggy cartoons. She's getting huge and loving it.

>>gets assblasted into oblivion
All you did was cry about him hating stuff. No one sounds ass blasted but you.

the linearity in 3 is fine

durability is good in 1 especially on weapons that can spend it on special powers. It created additional risk/reward layer. In 3 weapon arts shoulve costed durability instead of mana. At least for non magical weapons

2 just needs some damn polish. The flat lighting with the shitty levels is pretty fucking jarring. It just looks bad, DaS1 manages to still look good to this day, despite the dated graphics.

>rebbit

definitely not bothering now

stay mad tranny

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>cant get any items or gear from grand archives/irythill/profaned capital/dungeon/anor londo/archdragon peak without "progressing the game properly"
Fuck that garbage. The other games actually let you figure out ways to skip tons of content to rush for gear you wanted

DS1>DS2:SOTFS=Sekiro>Demon's>BB>DS2>DS3

Sounds like trash

git gud and kill dancer early

Some places in 2 look fine and others trash.
Some places in 1 look fine and others trash.
Whats the issue?

it sounds awful
shill harder tho

test

nice filename, moron

>hurrr im retarded
You cannot get into the archives early dipshit.
You can only do lothric castle and the garded/untended graves if you do early dancer before your greeted with a locked door and no key until you get all other lords of cinder.
Which begs the question WHY HAVE DANCER EARLY TO BEGIN WITH

>this faggot sperging out because nobody likes his plebbit mod

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fuck no. Corridor levels coupled with extremely close bonfire placement makes the game feel like a shitty action game instead of porper adventuring like ds1

you can't get to a few places early in 1 and 2 either

shut the fuck up

Cope

1 had its fair share of awful bonfire placement l.

Cinders does alot of unnecessary things like changing up upgrades works (you get ALL of them at the start and the ember pickups are now useless)

Dark Souls 3 is fun

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>das1
>get master key as gift
>do quelagg backwards
>do gargs backwards
>early sens to anor londo achieved
Then you can go anywhere

>das2
>get early bonfire aesetics
>get 1 mill souls from ezpz great one
Then you can go literally anywhere after only 2 areas

DaS3 is the polar opposite forcing you into the same 3 areas each playthough then the cathedral and catacombs if you want to get to irythill. Then all the lord souls so you can finally get into archives.

Even BB did it better my guy

NOOOOOOOO

OLD GOOD NEW BAD

literally the other way around lmao

That mod had potential to be good but they fucked it up by changing too much shit for the sake of changing it.
The ideal changes would be:
>Reintroduce the cut armor sets
>Reintroduce some cut weapons (only if they utilize cut weapon arts)
>Reintroduce some of the cut enemy and boss attacks
>Reintroduce the cut epitaphs
>Enhancing existing magic / faith (I'm even open to adding new spells as long as they're not plagued with retarded fanlore)
>Drastically reduce the cost of weapon arts
>Add slight amounts of passive poise
>Increase heavy armor defense
>Reconnect Irithyll to the Catacombs
>Reconnect Pit of Hollows to Profane Capital
>Allow the archives key to be obtained early
Where Cinders fucks up:
>Adding over the top ugly spells
>Adding middle school tier lore
>Rainbow pyro gloves
>Changing bonfire placement
>Adding set bonuses to way too many sets
>Changing the starting classes
>Allowing you to warp to 7 places from the start (1 was bad enough)
>Changing item placements
>Ds2 durability
I honestly dropped it after seeing this shit. I'm sure there are more retarded changes that I didn't spot

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Let me suckle upon your weenor, user

where did you get this picture of me

I think they changed the warps. You could only warp to the High Wall when I started playing. And the change in bonfire placements is one of the best changes.

thats true but for the most part it stays consistent and often times presents you with a dilemma of whether to push forward or to backtrack and save your souls. It also completely fucks over invaders because its literally impossible to catch a host mid level with his pants down because he has all the time in the world to run back to safety and fight you with double the heals and extra 20% hp

Not him but here are a few reasons I don't rate it as highly as the other games
>how fast you drink estus and how many rolling i-frames you get is governed by the agility stat and the game tells you jack shit about this
>Game has the worst hitboxes of any other souls game, YouTube "darks souls 2 bad hitboxes" and you will see tons of vids for proof
>shitty throwaway bosses such as a giant stomping his feet and a literal rat mob
>you can not move omnidirectionally, for some reason you have 8-way snes style limitations

Its a good game overall though. Its still Dark Souls and it's leagues ahead of any of the souls imitators

Is there different mod thats worth checking out?
Some of the shit you listed is weird as hell so not sure I'm down for cinders

>and the game tells you jack shit about this
Gotta love how being forced to use the stat menu is bad in das2 but good in des
Some hitboxes are wonky for sure though.
Many of those "bosses" would actually be mini bosses in other titles, sekiro was the first time they actually made the distinction.

Got gud fagot.

to add to the ideal changes:
>Increase damage on some of the lackluster weapon arts like Dancers
>bonfire placements is one of the best changes.
There wasn't anything wrong with the original bonfire placement.
Unlike Ds2/Sekiro the unnecessary bonfires didn't do anything to ruin level design, they were just unnecessary.
Unfortunately there aren't any good ones, and it's a shame because the Cinders guys are clearly capable of making a vastly improved version of Ds3, they just lack a proper vision.

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I agree I think all the souls games are fun

How is your taste this shit?

Sekiro > DS1 = SOTFS > DS3 > Bloodborne >DS2 > Demon's Souls

I don't care how, but put and end to your life

The worst Soulsbornekiro game, by a long way

BB > DS1 > DeS > Sekiro > DS2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS3

And for DLC:

BB > DS2 > DS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> DS3

>there are people in this thread that have never played souls offline without help from others or messages to hint at secrets
You dont even know what atmosphere is.
These games are fantastic single player RPGs and are only hampered by the mediocre online.
But boy is it fun sometimes

I recently replayed das3 and holy fuck why is TRC such a fucking terrible DLC.
At least snowy land is a place but fucking hell TRC is gutter trash as far as design goes.
Looks pretty though

3 is the best game.

Now that's some shit taste.
TOH>TRC+AoA>AotA>>>Crown trilogy

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Not to mention the horrible, ugly modded weapons. (They just shrunk or increased the size of weapons in the game and called them new.)

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>enemies that spam shots while you run between cover 4 TIMES
>enemy placements that make das2 ganks look like 1v1s compared
>TWO FUCKING SWAMPS after all of them in the base game
Yeah its trash.
Then they wasted the entire story of it because muh painting

>early sens to anor londo achieved

how is it early

wow you're a fucking crybaby faggot

Holy shit that's bad

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Your mod is trash.

>skip burg
>skip parish
>skip depths
>skip 90% of blighttown
All you do is go below firelink take an elevator and cross some poop water to spidertits.
If you go right back up from there (or homeward bone if your smart/speedrunning) you can sprint through the drakes valley (literally 30 seconds) into the forest and come up behind the smithy.
From there its literally one building to get through for the gargs.
So all in all you have to clear exactly one building of enemies to get to sens.
You only use 10% of blighttown, 15% of the forest and a skip through the valley.

Meanwhile you have to clear how many bosses in 3 to get anywhere?
Kind of defeats the purpose of getting a build early if half the games already cleared

>i'm shit and i know it
lol

Fucking yikes.

How can someone see that as acceptable?

Modders

you can't skip parish retard

my taste is absolute and i say all soul games are inheretly flawed one way or another. from never got one of them 100% right and every step in the right direction meant 2 steps in the wrong one. even then, they are all fun games and i would recomend any of them to anyone, from the most casual normalfag to the biggest tryhard faggot in this place.

that said:

PVE

sekiro > bloodborne > ds1 = ds3 > demons souls => ds2

PVP

ds2 > ds3 > bloodborne = ds1 > demon souls

STYLE/AESTHETICS

bloodborne > sekiro > demon souls > ds 1 > ds3 > ds 3

WORLD DESIGN

ds1 > sekiro > bloodborne > demon souls = ds3 > ds2

COMBAT/GAMEPLAY

sekiro > bloodborne > ds3 > ds1 > demon souls = ds 2

THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND (YOU) CAN NOT REFUTE THIS

You can skip 90% of it retard.
Walk from andre to the boss fight.
Thats literally all you need to do in parish.
No walk up with the bull, no side rooms with squiggly hollows, no balder knights guarding entrances and side paths.
Just you and a straight shot to the gargs with only one building of enemies in the way.

Sorry your too stupid to read between the lines. I clearly meant 90% of the parish if you read the route taken dipshit.

Only a handful of enemies are like bloodborne though. The Grave wardens with the 2 swords, The guys by the crab area with wooden thing around their neck, the hairy crocodile things, and the Hand faced hippo things. Everything Else I can think of is pretty average for darksouls.

The bird people in road of sacrifices as well.
And people arent talking about the visual design (which also has too much BB in it), they are talking about how they behave.

More than ever before do most enemies have stupidly aggresive flailing attacks, massive lunges across the area.
To top it all off retarded delays that are literally just a noob trap so you cant win fights off intuition alone which makes it much worse than BB for me

Speaking of souls modding, this madlad is reintroducing the cut lighting back to DaS2 with improvements:

twitch.tv/staydmcmuffin/videos

Finally this thing will get an ounce of soul into its levels.

>Hand faced hippo things
those things really bother me more than it should.

Dont forget the spider monstrosities and the centipede women.

I think ranking the games like this is pretty dumb, since people enjoy each game for very different reasons
I personally think whilst DaS is cool being interconnected, the level design can suffer for it, and I'd say DeS has better level design
also, style and aesthetics are highly subjective
you list combat and gameplay with Sekiro at the top, but for someone that prefers a slower pace they'd say the early Souls games are the best

basically the whole ranking thing with From games is pretty meaningless besides getting a general sense of overall quality, and if anything it's just a testament that they're a great developer

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Here's your god damn (You), I hope you choke on it

Can we just classify them as classic souls and HD souls?
Because des,1,2 are very different in design philosophy than bb,3,sekiro

Demon's Souls had the best looking armor sets. Prove me wrong. You can't.

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DS1 > DS3 > DS2 > BB > Sekiro > Demon's Souls

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nice; is there a mod that replaces some textures to be less shit and repetitive?
this looks sick so far

I think there are several but this is the most popular one which I also use(d):

nexusmods.com/darksouls2/mods/372

Texture mods would only work with the base DaS2 in GeDoSaTo but I think that modding system was ported to SotFS. It's been a while since I've played DaS2 so I'm not as up to date with the modding scene as I used to be, I just stumbled upon this neat lighting mod while lurking Yea Forums.

I'll definitely line up all the Souls games for a replay in a year or so. DeS emulated, DaS Rekindled with pic related, DaS 2 with the lighting mod, DaS 3, Bloodborne and Sekiro. Don't know if the latter have any cool mods coming up but it seems that souls modding has taken off a while ago so maybe some fanmade modding tools were released? In any case, I'm happy fans are doing stuff like this to keep the series fresh for years to come.

Also, here's a link to the rekindled art stuff (cut bosses, weapons, enemies etc.):

artstation.com/danebrennand

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I'm more of a Fluted set guy myself but the Dull Gold set is a close second.

sliders please

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and what about a mod that makes enemy placement better?
not baiting or anything just curios, I'll play it eventually when the lighting mod is done, want to experience it in its best form

Based Brosnan

imgur.com/a/wusmQnC

Such a thing is possible to do atm afaik but I don't know any standalone mods that do it unfortunately. There might be some out there, check out the nexus for such mods.

Also, the lighting mod guy is adding a bunch of assets here and there to fill empty rooms and stages with stuff which is neat, as long as he doesn't go full retard with the clutter.

>And it's a good thing!

no

Some of this stuff is really cool but the majority of those weapons and that Jar-El are disgustingly overdesigned

Agreed. I gravitate toward more low fantasy stuff that is grounded in history though elaborate designs are welcome every once in a while to spice things up. This mod is doing the opposite though which isn't going according to my preference but it's alright, new content is new content.

This Jar-El design is literally soul/soulless. All this needed was some refinement but instead the designer went full retard and added a bunch of frivolous details that don't amount to much. I hope they keep King Allants sound effects as a easter egg.

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Majula>all
I love these games. So glad these threads can still reach 200+ replies bickering about this and that.

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*Nexus > Majula > all
ftfy

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Worst home

DS1=DeS=BB
DS2-3 might as well be spin-offs made by a different company, although they're still good games in their own right.
I enjoyed Sekiro as well even though it rapes my ass. Too many Souls habits take over when I play it.
Can't wait to see more of Elden Ring. An in-game screenshot would suffice for the time being.

These designs in particular are plain shit, It's a shame too because they're clearly talented.
The "fanlore" they're writing is atrociously bad

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DS2+DLC > SOTFS

Hand of Radiance is straight out of Demon's Souls, as is the phosphorescent pole and pilgrims pavise.

In addition, the Wraithlord's sword is aping the greatswords the gold skeletons use in Demon's Souls.

I'm fine with bringing stuff over from Demon's Souls, though a lot of the designs feel a bit more high fantasy than Dark Souls even though the setting of DeS is at the same time more grounded. It's a crime that some of the beautiful designs like the fluted armor set don't get another appearance during the series. As far as I know, the "Venerable Sage's Set" is the only armor set that got brought over with DaS2 DLC as the Nothwarder Set.

>t's a crime that some of the beautiful designs like the fluted armor set don't get another appearance during the series.
This.

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>SOTFS = BLOODBORNE
This much is correct though.

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Bane was here

BB>DaS1>DeS>DaS2>DaS3

least it was til i fucked everythang up

I don't care what BBfags say, Demon's Souls has the best atmosphere.