bruh moment
Bruh moment
What part of "Only a Battery Upgrade" don't you and Gamexplain understand?
>only a battery upgrade
>worse performance
Didn't think it meant a framerate downgrade, you nintendies really love eating shit don't you?
They didnt upgrade the battery though. They upgraded the chip. Pretty fucked if the drivers make a more efficient chip run worse than the older model
botw uses double buffered v-sync, when ever the frame rate drops below 30 (aka, only in Korok forest) it throttles it to 20fps. Any frame rate seen below 30 but above 20 is just the switch in the split second process of throttling down the framerate to 20 for it's v sync. The new switch throttles down to 20 for roughly the same amount of time as the old switch, there is no real difference, and presenting the data without context and improper insinuations is disingenuous. You should be ashamed of yourself.
*farts*
bruh
*takes a whif*
bruh.........
so its just a performance downgrade to make the same battery last longer?
There's a line right there in the fucking image that shows you're wrong you fucking idiot, the new switch is consistently performing worse than the original.
In what fucking world is 20fps acceptable?
Did you watch the video that this is grabbed from? You're arguing by using a cherrypicked part of the plot, the reviewer DigitalFoundry says themselves that they both perform equally, and that the double buffering forces them both down to 20
>battery upgrade
>everything else downgrade
the switch really is a legendary piece of shit.
It's a processor upgrade, not a battery upgrade.
Lmao who cares. If you did not play BoTW on CEMU you did not play the intended way to experience it.
Thank fucking god I didn't buy this game for my Switch.
it's a fucking die shrink
the transistor pathway is the SAME
the drivers are the SAME
This could only be explained by maybe a different time of day in game.
>presented with counter evidence, making me look like a dumbfuck
>"Y-YEAH WELL THIS SHIT'S DUMB ANYWAYS LOL BTFO"
nice one user u made post!
lol
thank god I bought the original Switch, ai’d be pissed if I got the version with lower framerates
A agree a die shrink shouldnt cause drivet issues
You lost.
>20fps for a previous console title ported over
no comment
Based.
Eat shit, latefags.
You will never ever know the ecstasy that is being a preJuly Switch owner.
Have fun with your circumcised consoles, homos.
>22/20 fps Docked
I really wanted to get a Switch for cheap for the next Zelda, but god damn dude. How are you going to release a new version of a 2016 console that runs fucking worse?
> it lags even MORE in Korok forest
Bruh
When it only happens in very specific areas of the map
Because it isn't a "new" version really. It only gives you better battery life which was proven true.
Imagine being you having to wake up tomorrow to a world where Nintendo is STILL one of the most successful video game developers and BOTW is STILL one of the most beloved games of all time despite ally your valiant efforts
I have a lot of respect for Nintendo not allowing themselves to fall into the whole competitive pissing match thing that Sony and Microsoft have going on, sticking to doing their own thing, but I truly wish they'd get their heads out of their asses and at least try to even pretend they're catching up so I can try to gain some interest in investing in their shit again.
imagine being the one coping with having not played BOTW at 60fps with mods
>This what console fags unironically believe
Dude that game came out 2 years ago
Hmmm it's almost as if op is cherrypicking and that the framerate fluctuates hmmmm
I died laughing when consolefags were saying TW3 ran at a locked 30fps on consoles.
are you really so blinded by console war faggotry that you would deny that different areas in games have different requirements?
IT FLUCTUATES YOU FUCKING SMOOTHBRAIN
I have a fucking toaster of a laptop with CEMU on it and I play BoTW at 20fps too. How is this acceptable? I can you go out and BUY a new system to play a game at 20fps?
ITT: morons who didn't watch/understand the fucking video
Imagine not playing portably
>are you really so blinded by console war faggotry that you would deny that consoles aren't powerful enough to deliver constant 30 fps of current gen titles?
FPS is all that matters. 20 is completely unacceptable. Make the game look like an N64 game if you have to to achieve at least 60 fps.
Imagine being a manchild playing Zelda portably.
that's a nice attempt yo move the goalpost user but i'm gonna need an answer for the initial question. Are you really such a console war faggot that you would claim different areas in games don't put different strains on the hardware?
That is still fucking unacceptable. 30fps is the bottom tier of performance and consoles can't even fucking maintain that on the entirety of first party games. That is fuckin bullshit and defending that is ridiculous.
>different areas in games put different strains on the hardware
Can't deny that
Still the 2019 hardware should be powerful enough to make every area of a game released in 2017 run at 30fps at least.
>i'm gonna need an answer for the initial question
The fucking irony >b-but high strain
Optimize your shit.
consolefaggotry is gross, it literally breaks your brain like this dude
i'm not copernicus, i'm a different user pointing out how retarded you are to claim that games can't have issues running certain areas well while being fine in others.
Ding ding ding!
This fucking game was developed along the switch by Nintendo, and yet they are fucking unable to at least make it stable.
That is laziness and incompetence
of course it is, but claiming different areas in games don't put different strains on the hardware is fucking retarded. Look at blight town on DS1 for a strong example of this.
>console made for previous console still running sub 30FPS at all, period, let alone the big portions of BotW
It's not, the parts where it dropped to 20fps (basically ONLY the Korok Woods, but still) were the most disappointing part of BotW.
Playing on PC is uncomfy. I already suffered the decades of constantly debugging fucked up emulator settings and bugs back when I was poor. Don't want to go back to that shit.
30 FPS is already shit, 30 FPS with drops is absolutely shameful. At that point you either need to fire all your programmers or scrap your project in favor of something that can actually run on the targeted hardware.
Seriously, gamer standards are so fucking low. 60 FPS should be the bare minimum. Anything else should get you laughed out of the industry.
cringe
>programmers
no fire the retard(s) in charge of the hardware
Muh strains
DUDE your hardware is shit, period. Nobody claimed nothing about different areas of games not having different strains, because the hardware SHOULD be able to run all of them smoothlywhich means only 30fps for console, a shame
You know it's real because DF didn't make a video on it because that would be bad for nintendo sales.
DF will shill for nintendo regardless
>uh this game drops below 400p and dips below 30fps constantly but it's good because switch hardware is bad
I don't understand what this means so I'm just going to call you a faggot instead.
>i'm not copernicus
No fucking shit.
>can't
When 30 is as high as it gets, they shouldn't.
Of course they do, that's fucking basic. But the thing to address is the incompetence/laziness of the devs and/or how fucking weak the hardware is.
my first response was some retard posting that console users actually believe that slow downs being localized to certain areas is an actual thing.
than dark souls shouldn't have been made because blight town ran like shit? that game also ran at 30 for the most part.
apparently not basic enough for to grasp.
He's referring to how retarded are console zealots for thinking that's an excuse.
I also think that way
>than dark souls shouldn't have been made because blight town ran like shit?
Basically, yeah. Not really. You can't really cancel a game when you suddenly realize you can't optimize for shit or the hardware is fucking trash.
But ideally at that point they should actually try and optimize it, not say fuck it and ship it at silky smooth 20FPS.
they made dark souls run 60FPS on subsequent hardware. BotW is sub 30FPS on switch
How the fuck do I fix this Yea Forums, do I seriously need to wait 5+ for the game to start on CEMU?
It's only on first launch. Unless it decided to fully recompile them for some reason.
how is a game having a certain area run like shit not acceptable? like i keep bringing up with this mentality dark souls outside of pc becomes indefensible because of blight town and bloodborne is just flat out indefensible. The switch is an underpowered piece of shit that can barely run anything without a specific art style but a certain area of a game running like shit shouldn't be enough to write off a game.
considering most areas in BoTW run at 30 how does it play into your scenario? What about considering the fact that they also improved the performance with post launch updates.
with frame drops on everything besides the xbone x, the fight against sif in particular pulls the ps4 and xbox one to 30-40 fps.
okay
>a certain area of a game running like shit shouldn't be enough to write off a game
I'm writing off their technical development as fucking shit, that is quite reasonable. Again, 30 FPS is fucking bare minimum before becoming a powerpoint presentation, not being able to maintain at least that throughout the whole game is ridiculous
Why the fuck do you keep bringing up souls, you faggot. Yes, it's also retarded and unacceptable, are we done? Anything else?
No, you went from criticizing the game to criticizing the hardware, you insufferable faggot
>besides xbox one x
and ps4 pro
yep, autism
For a first party game developed along the system, that's one in the same nintenfaggot
no it isn't you massive retard. BOTW wasn't even originally designed for the Switch.
New switch runs at a stable 20fps, while the old one fluctuates a lot.
>People STILL whine about frame rate
What a bunch of fucking babies.
in what way is that reasonable when the 20fps drop is the exception and not the rule? If the game consistently had frame drops to the 20's then i would say yes it completely failed at the technical level but basing it off 1 area running like shit is fucking retarded.
cause it's a pretty fucking poignant example of a game that had issues with it's frame rate but is still considered a great game which is pretty relevant when discussing games that struggle with that issue.
also takes a hit at times, doesn't seem to drop below 50 but it does drop. xbone x is the only one to keep the frame rate locked at 60.
What? Was it developed for the WiiU? That even worse version?
BoTW is a system seller, of course they developed it with the switch in mind
you what? it was initially being developed for the wii u but the release date was pushed back in order to release it along side the switch as well. hence e3 presentations and shit talking about it being a wii u game.
Were you born fucking yesterday?
>but is still considered a great game
What does this have to do with ANYTHING. And I guess BotW isn't "considered a great game" anymore? Since when?
I'd like to know one reason why they couldn't get BOTW to run at 60 FPS, or at least 30 FPS without drops. Indie games do it all the time. Then again they don't feel the need to have super high def graphics or twenty mile long draw distances, or "cinematic" storytelling. it's just disappointing that Nintendo emphasized that stuff over actually making a competent product. They know they can get away with it though because of brand recognition. It's a damn shame.
BoTW was supposed to support menus on the WiiU tablet. Also different architecture comes into play. We have what ever the WiiU has vs the X1 on the switch. It took time before the "fixed" the forest section and they probably prioritized the handheld mode then the docked.
You are fucking daft if you think that wasn't premeditated. This shit is planned years in advance
Ultimately doesn't matter. Both the hardware and the game were Nintendo, no excuse.
so in your mind they announced botw in 2014 and made plans to announce a delay as well so they could wait till 2017 to release it alongside a console they weren't announcing until that year as well?
the excuse is it only happens in particularly effects heavy portions of the map very sparingly and basically you need to cope
How long do you think game and console development takes, retard?
do you think announcing a delay was good press retard?
I don't think he's the retard here acfag
shit i forgot to mention in, was it also good press to announce features using the wii u gamepad then announce you were taking them out?
It only dips that low in 3 specific places in the entire game. It's otherwise a stable 30 throughout.
and if a game has a cutscene in it it's a cinematic experience
>muh fps!
forest
town(S)
hyrule castle
It sounds kinda retarded to imply that 20 FPS is better than 60 FPS, which is what's being said.
lol cope
Yeah you are pretty retarded
>which is what's being said.
by who?
>any criticism of my favorite company makes you retarded
The fanboys of course.
what fanboys? user the person you replied to said nothing about that, hell i haven't seen anyone in the thread claiming that.
>do you think announcing a delay was good press retard?
Ironically yes. In this day and age, a company with so many fans and that keeps a level of goodwill can end up being heavily praised for announcing a delay for a big time release, as it can be interpreted as not wanting to rush the product.
And changing focus to switch is reflective of the fucking flop the wiiu was
this, who the fuck cares about framerate, it's not important lol
btw did you guys hear about that ps4 exclusive that runs at 30fps? lmao fucking movies LOL imagine playing games at such a cinematic framerate
>what fanboys
Notice the lack of standards and inability to criticize Nintendo for anything.
Stop talking out of your trannie ass. Look at the fps graph. Its literally at values between 20 and 30. Stop copy pasta dumb sentences from digital foundry fags
what about the features being cut from the wii u version? i'll give you that them announcing a delay on AC was met well recently but the game being conceived and announced with wii u specific features which then had to be taken out because of the switch version is a pretty heavy indicator that it started out solely as a wii u game.
you've quoted a person saying the parts with frame drops were the most disappointing parts of the game and someone pointing out only certain areas run at below 30fps. neither one of them is claiming 20fps is better than 30fps let alone 60.
>you've quoted a person saying the parts with frame drops were the most disappointing parts of the game
And then immediately followed it up by saying "the pc version is uncomfy, 60 FPS is shit!"
Pretty open and shut.
>Playing on PC is uncomfy. I already suffered the decades of constantly debugging fucked up emulator settings and bugs back when I was poor. Don't want to go back to that shit.
that's his exact quote user, nowhere does he mention 60fps and playing on pc being uncomfy could be anything from him equating it to playing botw on keyboard and mouse or being uncomfortable playing in a computer chair. He could mean he finds 60fps uncomfortable when playing it but he doesn't say that 20fps is better than 60 anywhere in that even if you read uncomfortable as 60fps.
He literally called the entire platform shit, so it's clear he has a problem with every aspect of it. After all, "shit" isn't exactly a vague, ambiguous description.
when he says he doesn't want to go back to that shit he's referring to debugging and messing with emulator settings user, he's not saying pc is shit but that he doesn't want to deal with the debugging and bugs that come from playing a game on an emulator.
Who fuckin cares
Where the fuck is the "upgrade" you dense retard?
Or just other kind of bottleneck, example the fact it uses DDR3.
Play it on CEMU then.
You know you can download them right?
damn this thread reminds me of 2017
How come we shit all over Sony and Microsoft when they have one of their 2013 consoles that cost $199 today play games at sub 30 fps but defend Nintendo 2017 console that costs $350 when it performs poorly?
nintentards will eat anything nintendo shits out
Why are sonyfags still SEETHING and Coping so muhh?