Who won?

>Which company made more money counts
>Quality of the games doesn't

Yep, you are a Sony fan alright

Still butthurt 20 years later.

The N64 didn't have quality games. It had 20fps games and a lot of racers. A lot and lot of racing games. Seriously 20% of the platform is just racing games. Why is there so many racers? Don't know, maybe they're easy to make and it's easy to control how much get renders on screen, and we all know the N64 is sloooooow at 3D.

PS1, not even a fair comparison seeing as how it hit the 100 million mark in its generation.
The N64 had some amazing titles revolutionary titles, but outside of those 25 or so mosty first party games it was cursed with shovelware.

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I had both and for me I'd say Playstation had more good games but less great games and N64 had more great games but less good games

They both won. Sega lost.

>64 was even worse than the Saturn.
not even close resetera
keep inflating those sony numbers
sony is life

Are you confused?

Every kid I knew who owned a PS1 were autistic shutins
N64 kids were happy and outgoing

My heart says Saturn, my mind says PS1.

I honestly can't decide. I need to look at a top 25 list of both systems and then TRY to decide from that.

N64 hardware with it's stupid fast access speeds and double the RAM of the PS1 were perfect for action oriented games
A lot of PS1 games had you walking across vast stretches of nothing while the console slowly loaded the next area into it's paltry 2mb of RAM

>the 64kiddie keeps trying historical revisionism despite all evidence
hows that fanfic and squid girl porn

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You'll struggle to find 10 N64 games worth playing today.

>N64 hardware with it's stupid fast access speeds
crippled by bandwidth limitations by requiring e v e r y t h i n g to run in sync
>double the RAM of the PS1 were perfect for action oriented games
ended up being used exclusively for 20fps platformers and sluggish racers
>A lot of PS1 games had you walking across vast stretches of nothing
yeah like
wait what?

PS1,basically the weirdest the coolest the most obscure and the best games are all there

lmao actually all of them are playable today
you have more than that on the xbox desu

saturn and ps look like shit today

Ok, now post your list of GOOD sega games. 9/10 or better. I'll wait.

I owned a 64 as a kid.
The ps1 was better. Sony won.

Are you seriously trying to argue that PS1 is more powerful at 3D than N64? I know a couple of snoyfags are currently trying to revise history and claim PS2 was more powerful than the GameCube, but N64 vs. PS1 isn't even up for debate

>wait what?
PS1 had a lot of RPGs with prerendered backdrops where you walk slowly from one scene to the next with nothing happening in between except the occasional random battle

64 was such a shitty console

Ps1 because I owned it and not the pretendo shitty-poor console

N64 had stronger hardware
Nothing on PS1 came even CLOSE to Hyrule Field in Ocarina of Time

What else can you expect from zoomer fanboys that didn't even own either consoles?

t. owned both

playshit is literal a shit console

only trannies praise it today

PS1 had RPGs, N64 did not. It also had a lot more platformers, 2D action games, large 3D games with big levels like spyro and terracon. N64 requires almost everything to be hidden behind fog past 20 feet.

>PS1 had a lot of RPGs
Kids didnt bought those except for FF7 and some other titles.
As far as I remember it was all about racing, 3d plattformers and clunky but cool all types of games.

Yet they had way more Soul, people remember them today and are begging nintendo for a 64 mini while the playstation classic bombed hardcore and is rotting in $10 bargain bins.

>and clunky but cool all types of games
Sorry now that I think itts more like
>and clunky but cool ACTION games

I was a spic kid so i didnt even get to play on a 64, but the psx was fucking everywhere.
Sadly because im more of a nintendo fan and had to go snes>psx>gc

N64 kids:
>Total bros
>Invite you over for Mario Party and Smash
>Became chads later

PS1 kids:
>Autist weebs
>Sat inside all day masturbating and playing cringy RPGs
>Now all NEETs and losers

I don't know which is better, but I'm so glad my parents got me the 64

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Spyro was a special case, it had the advantage of coming out much later in the PS1s life cycle and they used plenty of special tricks to get the game running like an N64 platformer
>special new engine that replaced high poly models with low poly models at a distance in real time instead of fog
>filling the beginning of the game with junk data so the actual game would get pushed to the outside of the disk for faster load times

>N64 requires almost everything to be hidden behind fog past 20 feet.
Consoles still do this

I went PC after Genesis. Never owned a console since.

desu I don't know a single 64 owner who become a trannie

PS tho

>Yet they had way more Soul
did they? Most 64 games today look like blurry, disgusting and slow games. That's probably because they are. These days systems like the Saturn and PS1 are a lot more engaging while the same 10 or so N64 games are games everyone has played and I gotta say, no one wants to return to. They want to keep them in their memories.
>begging nintendo for a 64 mini
that reminds me, they wouldn't even be able to get goldeneye for it. Imagine an N64 with no goldeneye. Yikes.

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>a big empty field with nothing in it

Woah. Truly the GOAT of all time...

Termina field would have been a better example desu

I guess you haven't seen what the Nintendo user base has become

I guess you haven't seen what the Sony user base has become

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n64 lives much more fondly in memory. probably due to it having better (aging) games

Giving your kid a PS1 was essentially child abuse

Cosmo

Unless your favorite genre is multiplayer party games (which admittedly the N64 had a lot of great ones), then the PS1 objectively has a larger and more diverse library. It's not even a contest. And I'm not saying the N64 is awful, it has some great games, but the sheer disparity in the size of the library is hard to argue with

>PS1 objectively has a larger and more diverse library
It had a lot of shovelware

Oh trust me, I know neither are free of sin. That's the thing, neither are free of Sin. Sega gods and goddesses still laugh at them all.

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both had some 10/10s and 75% shovelware trash. depends on if you prefer action/adventure or platformer/collectathons. saleswise tho there's no debate and everyone agrees cartridges. loading speeds didn't make up for the lack of storage, and while the PSX had awful resolution the N64 couldn't into textures.

how is this even a debate, the PS1 was better in ALL regards

What did the n64 have? super mario 64? I'll give you that, but sony always wins baby

N64 had like 10 good games that were mostly multiplayer focused
PS1 had at least 100 10/10 games that are still played today as remasters or emulated.
Easy. PS 1.
( I owned both btw.)

Just not the better kart racer. CTR was so much better than MK64.

*agrees on

>Unless you had friends, PS1 was better
Thanks for confirming the myth

>sold the most units, by far
>had all the games
sony won.

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Strangely, the N64 had more shovelware all while having one of the smallest libraries EVER.

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Did the N64 actually outsell the PS1 in USA?

PS1. N64 had a high concentration of good games, PS1 had more games in general, including more good games (just a lower % of the overall games were good).
N64 had greater party appeal for 3 or more people, PS1 had better 2 player experiences.
PS1 had better RPGs, and significantly more atop that, N64 had some of the more unique RPGs to grace the market (including a fighting game RPG, and hybrid heaven)

>It had a lot of shovelware
I'd almost say the PS1 has more great RPGs alone than the N64 has games worth playing

i mean that first bit sounds like unbased opinion. there are many, many n64 games people remember fondly and still hold up today. how many ps1 games can you say that about?

the only kids i know who had the n64 were the ones in my neighbour, and they had a ps1 too
literally everyone else had ps1

Don't kid yourself, the PS1 had 3 times as much shovelware as the N64 had games

t. PS1 owner

N64 won
Playstation at the time only had very few good games on it and ironically history seems to repeat itself gens later

>PS1 had at least 100 10/10 games that are still played today as remasters or emulated.
Name 10.

Oh no, the N64 did half as many sales in the US as the PS1 did in the US. The 64 was a flop.

>n64
>shovelware
Uhhh..... the ps1 didn’t have shovelware? Are you fucking retarded dude?

PC

I mean it's not wrong. Have you ever found it odd how prevalent N64 nostalgia is despite the PS1 outselling it near 4 to 1? It's because even if you didn't have one, the N64 was a highlight of hanging out with friends. It was the go to multiplayer console. Just about everyone played MK64 or Mario Party with buddies

>days without desperately trying to crawl out of Nintendo's shadow
>0000

At least make some sort of meaningful comparison. At least the case could be made during PS2/GameCube/Dreamcast/XBox and the WiiPS360 generation was much closer. But even N64fags will agree that the PS1 won and had a ton of great games.

>Did the N64 actually outsell the PS1 in USA?
Haha, no.

> how many ps1 games can you say that about?
Probably more than there are games in the entire 64 library.

3DO Chads rise up

they all do, but you can only scroll past so many winnie the poo, disney, wrestling and racing games before you just tune out. The PS1 has more games in a single letter of the alphabet than the N64 has worth playing in the entire library.

Name 5 then

can't really tell, I liked the games on both consoles, used N64 more. played with friends

If even 1/10th of all PS1 games were worth playing, that would still be more games than the entire N64 library

PS1 obviously won in sales and variety in games, followed by the Saturn that did poorly in sales but still has a great library with the N64 in last place for having the worst selection of games out of the 3

For me its hard to say. The 64 had some good multiplayer memories with Goldeneye and I still enjoyed Marokart and the Snowboard Kids game. I'm trying to wrack my brain though as to what other games I enjoyed for it but I know there were a ton.
Playstation, on the other hand, was the system to have for RPGs. Beyond the Beyond is a game I remember fondly and enjoyed playing it and need to got back to it. I would say Nintendo won on variety of good games but Playstation won when it came to straight up hours I put into it due to role playing games.

Fanboys can't into math lmao

>Shining Force III
It still hurts that I've never been able to play this fucking game to this day.

64 if you had friends

ff7, ff tactics, metal gear solid, crash, spyro.

For any metric PS1 easily won the gen, ti's not even close like it was for SNES/Genesis.
N64 had way more classics and masterpieces in it's much smaller library though.

Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Silent Hill and Resident Evil.

correct take. theres a reason N64 is the one people always actually talk about, PS1fags forget this

sure lets use the letter A. Ace (air) combat, Ace Combat 2, Ace Combat 3 Electrosphere, akumajou dracula x - gekka no yasoukyoku, alien resurrection, alundra, ape escape, arc the lad 1, arc the lad 2, arc the lad 3, arcade gears 1, arcade gears 2, arcade gears 3, armored core, armored core master of arena, armored core project phantasma, assault suit valken 2, azure dreams.

18 games. That's 8 more than the 10 good N64 games! Impressive. The PS1 just needs 1 letter to destroy an entire console.

i have heard of so few of those games its unreal

What "classics" and "masterpieces" did the N64 have? Why are they "classics" and "masterpieces?"

Praystation had quantity over quality in every sense of the word

i was born poor never been able to afford a console, i am still poor, can't afford anything i want

Only 2 good games there, and those aren't even that good

im a zoomer who never owned either but i know how to emulate
i think ps1

That's okay, everyone is a casual at first. You grow out of it the more games you play. Once you play more games you also get better taste.

>It's another gamers pick who won a generation when half the faggots here were barely out of diapers during said generation episode
Jesus christ this episode again, do you shitsticks really wanna know who won the PS1/N64 gen? We, the gamers did, we got an assload of great games across multiple platforms and the financial success set up the next gen to be even better.

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>turbo-casual nintendo zoomer hasn't heard of good games
shocker.

PS1, why we do we even keep having this debate?

yeah im sure playing outdated shit on a console from 25 years ago is the way to go

kys

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Such terrible taste. Ape Escape alone is a superior game to every N64 game, especially Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. It's amazing how consistently great the game play in Ape Escape is while how padded Mario 64 feels.

>N64 still being played at houseparties today
>PS1 classic failed hard

Gee, I wonder

other way around, nintendo has been in sony's shadow since 1995. even when nintendo sold 100 million wiis to casuals and nursing homes, the pstriple was all anyone cared about.
>b-but muh handhelds!
handhelds are the minor leagues, home consoles are the major leagues and the market has revolved around sony since 1995.

how else would you reframe it so the losers can feel better about it?

It definitely is, it's why you're in the thread at all. Older games are just better, more creative and more enjoyable. Otherwise go back to sitting and watching red dead 2.

The N64 really has fuck all games when it comes down to it. I owned a PS1 when the GC generation had already begun and bought an N64 later, so I suppose it's not really a case of accurate experiences with it but PSX had stuff like SOTN, MGS, Megaman X4, whereas beyond the first party games, Nintendo was lacking on the 64. The 64 games they made are great of course, but it's not exactly comparable.

>N64 outsold PS1 in Europe
>PS1 outsold N64 in South America
There's a reason we call them Son yggers

Those sound like ps1 games

Because the result changes depending on the time. Euro and USA Yea Forums have different opinions.

you can also play the sequels that came out a decade or two later if you're curious.

If you were Japanese the PS1 was the better console hands down.

>Vaping
>in 98

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>N64 outsold PS1 in Europe

[Citation needed]

If you were alive the PS1 was a better console.

I think the PS1 was ultimately the better system.
N64 just couldn't compete with the sheer volume of good games coming out on PS1.
For every good N64 game theres like 3 good playstation games, and N64 had a lot of good games so thats a pretty amazing selection.
Plus the cheaper cost of PS games meant more people had a wider variety of games. N64 had an issue where every kid had the same fucking games cause they'd only get 1 or 2 games a year so they'd pick games they played at friends houses and shit.

LOL! The N64 got murdered because of two to three reasons. The first is that people really liked cds and it became an obvious choice as it doubled the console as a CD player and family entertainment device. The second is that Sony was offering premium contracts to whom ever came to their easy as fuck to make games on platform, combine that with nintendo being niggers in the past it meant companies who were pissed off at them like id software could fuck them hard in the ass and often did! Running over to the playstation and producing games for fat stacks of cash. The third Final reason was because it came out sooner and got a lot more exposure as it was the first console of the future with real 3d hitting the scene.

This just made it a no brainer for the average consumer, if some one DID wait on the N64 the library for the PSX at that time had become so large it was STILL a better offer for a cheaper console with more games.

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>But even N64fags will agree that the PS1 won and had a ton of great games.

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>look at europe now.
look at america now, wait dont do that you might get hit by a stray bullet

The saddest thing is when you look at nintendo power at the time. Imagine being the guy who was the dedicated RPG writer for the N64. Your entire career can be boiled down to talking about 4 games that came out, overhyping utter shit like quest 64 and sweating bullets at your job security once mother 3 got cancelled.

If you look at the nintendo power issues however, you'll notice a consistent pattern. A game will be announced in 1997, will come out late 1997, and they'll still be talking about it in december 1998 because there was no games to talk about. It's depressing. Nintendo lost Konami, Capcom, and were stuck with a middling developer like Rare.

Take smaller bullets to increase your immunity to larger caliber bullets.

>The second is that Sony was offering premium contracts to whom ever came to their easy as fuck to make games on platform
they didn't even offer premium contracts. they just charged a far less expensive licensing fee because they weren't greedy pricks like nintendo.

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>But even N64fags will agree that the PS1 won and had a ton of great games
No you obviously were born past that gen PS1 had great games but not nearly as many as N64 which also blew PS1 out of the water on multiplayer

>Black Ops 2
>in '98
Don't hurt yourself, champ. Thinking isn't your strong suit

Nindendy won since it had bing bing wahoo 64 and zelda games.

That N64 guy was probably erect for the entire duration of Paper Mario after the drought of good RPGs.

You might get hit by a stray truck, bomb or rape gang in Europe though, I’ll take the stray bullet over that

And nintendo still had the balls to hurt rare from time to time.

That's when he was born, user. That other stuff isn't all from 1998 either.

Only half life was good

>actually taking the bait

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The one with final fantasy 8 on it.

>You might get hit by a stray truck, bomb or rape gang in Europe though
>things that happen rarely
vs
>daily mass shootings
yes he's american alright

>Dreamcast was the best 90s console

If you're a JRPG fag like me the PS undoubtedly takes it. N64 is full of solid titles but the lack of JRPGs lowers it quite a bit for me.

The N64 was really expensive and mostly owned by nerds who already knew about Mario and Zelda. Goldeneye really helped everyone else warm up to it though. But I was 14 and had grown out of gaming when the PlayStation came along and everyone was talking about these new titles: Resident Evil and Tomb Raider and Metal Gear and Final Fantasy. We'd hang around playing Bushido Blade, Abe's Oddysee & Crash in between loitering at night and smoking cigarettes. But I'd still sneak off to hang with the nerds and play Perfect Dark and Smash Bros.
This is all irrelevant though because the simple fact is N64 did OK, had some great games, but couldn't dream of reaching the same heights as the PSX.

No dude, they offered fucking support ontop of having constantly updated library and resources developers could use.

That's one of the reasons why N64 needed an expansion, the only fucking game that uses it was Majoras mask.

define mass shooting

Well this isn't Reddit, so you aren't gonna get any post karma for it.

Stop shitting up the board.

There were a few games that required the expansion pack, but only 1 that really needed it. That one being majora's mask, the rest were made to sell the pak or were simply poorly programmed.

The PS1 (100M) won with a huge gap to the N64 (32M) who itself had a large gap to the Saturn (10M).

The gen started out in 1994 with the Saturn in japan, but it sold pretty bad and then the PS1 released very close and started dominating.

Sega went to an american convention and did a "and it's gonna be released tomorrow" surprise launch in America and the Saturn sold terribly because of it and because it was already flopping in Japan anyway, the PS1 released a bit after and dominated it like everywhere else.

The N64 released very late, almost two years after and sold even worse than the Saturn in Japan, in America however the N64 actually did incredible and was even the market leader for a short while and then matched the PS1 in sales. however the PS1 outlived it and while the N64 lost steam around 99, the PS1 kept going strong and took a huge gap over the N64.

In Europe it was the PS1 destroying everything.

Also Segafags like to say the Saturn sold great in Japan and that it creamed the N64, this is not true it barely outsold the N64, the Saturn was a PSV "success", almost 6 Million and it's best selling market but that is still incredible bad sales compared to N64 5 Millions (Which flopped according to Segafags) and in terms of software the N64 had 5 million sellers, the Saturn only had 1.

>define mass shooting
american custom

PS1 raped the N64.
Are people honestly trying to dispute this?...

Yes, because of a lack of support from the developer and massive hoops nintendo would make them jump through.

It's defined as 4 or more injured also he's not even that far off when he says every day. We have some huge fucking problems.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019

Look at that shit.

But muh blast processing

>You're sooner to be hit by lightning

Go home muslim, you're inbred.

>DK64 didn't even let you listen to the DK rap without the expansion pak

There are like 10 great ps1 games for every great 1 N64 game

>Go home
>you're inbred.
but im not american

A land mass the size of the entirety of europe, vs a state or two.

Fuck off.

For an actual on topic post, I would say PS1 won. I owned both.

Outside of Zelda and Mario games there's not a ton of gems on the N64. However on Ps1, especially in the area of RPGs, there were many many options to choose from.

>mass shootings
>daily
No
>rape gangs
>still allowed to operate by your government and calling it out gets you thrown in prison
I’m not American though, I’m from America’s hat

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

lmao america btfo

American's aren't inbred, just muslims.

Mass shootings every other day then, look at this shit

It's a blacks problem. Remove Chicago and balitmore.

>a state or two
>Texas, Missouri, Virginia, Alabama
I know it's hard for you but I count more than two Jamal Gonzales

>ITT european kids revising history

??

Okay, let's look at the shooting statistics for the entirety of Europe. They don't seem to have a page for shootings in 2019, so I went by the total number of recorded mass shootings and there's about 50 total.
>As of July 31, 2019, 248 mass shootings have occurred in 2019

Okay.

Chicago appears 56 times, Baltimore 23. So you may be on to something. At least you aren't as patently retarded as the other guy.

Which games had the most impact on gaming?

Ps1
Final Fantasy VII
Gran Turismo
Tekken 3
Metal Gear Solid
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Medal of Honor
Tomb Raider
Ace Combat 2
FIFA
Silent Hill
Dino Crisis
Oddworld: Abe's Odyssey
Spyro the Dragon
Ape Escape
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2

N64
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Mario Kart 64
Super Smash Bros.
Banjo-Kazooie
Star Fox 64
Donkey Kong 64
Pokémon Stadium
Goldeneye 007
Perfect Dark
Paper Mario
Mario Party
F-Zero X

>American's aren't inbred
SWEET HOME ALABAMA

Oh wait, I was wrong,a lot of the Chicago mentions come from the Chicago Sun Times reporting the shootings, so it's only 33 for Chicago and 17 for Baltimore.

I'd say give them their own balkanized countries, let everyone else have their own thing and call it a done deal.

Gun violence and racism in America solved. Africa2 can take care of itself.

I turned 20 during the PS1/N64 generation. They were the first systems I bought myself. N64 had perhaps ten great games, maybe twice that if you're counting the wrestling and Gauntlet Legends and other multiplayer games that were fun but forgettable. PS1 easily had twenty great games alone and the count could probably get up to 100 just finding all the fun ones.

Okay, let me rephrase that: even the non-retarded N64 fans will admit that the PS1 had a huge library of good games. It's just the retards who think that Mario and Zelda alone were the only great titles that came out that generation.

guess that's one way to end the conversation

DURKA DURKA MUHAMMAD JIHAD.

>I turned 20 during the PS1/N64 generation
t. incel who still hasn't turned 20

>Final Fantasy VII
>Metal Gear Solid
>Castlevania Symphony of the Night
>Silent Hill
>Ape Escape
holy shit how could anyone hope for Nintendo to compete against that?

It was Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time by far.

In America FF7 and Goldeneye were also important but more of a local impact.

PS1 still won, the N64 was more influential, the Saturn sucked, there all happy.

Having Ocarina alone on any list makes the opposing one invalid by default

I'm sorry, I'll stop posting.

PS1 was better.

>I turned 20 during the PS1/N64 generation.
You have to be over 18 to post here kid

ps1 by far. ff7 and mgs' influence is undeniable, medal of honor (and alien resurrection) set the standards for modern fps on consoles, and sotn has inspired tons of shitty indie copycats.
in contrast, mario 64 only lives on through nintendo's own rehashes of it, and not even nintendo makes oot-like games anymore. the most you can say for the n64 is that collectathons eventually mutated into the ubishit formula that dominates gaming today, but that's a negative impact, not a positive one.

PSX by the numbers and legacy

Saturn was 10 times better than the N64.

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Amén.

>Which games had the most impact on gaming?

>Super Mario 64
>Banjo-Kazooie
>Donkey Kong 64
>three games in the same genre
>one of which is generally considered very poor

>Star Fox 64
>when the only other rail shooter to come out after the N64 was Sin & Punishment

>Paper Mario
>when the concept has never been copied by another publisher outside recent indie titles

>Pokémon Stadium
>literally dropped by Nintendo
>nobody else even has the games set up to attempt such a thing

I'd argue that Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Mario Party weren't really copied that much until more recent generations. And Perfect Dark/Goldeneye wasn't anywhere as influencial as Halo.

I'm not claiming that the PS1 list was necessarily more impactful, just that your N64 list is filled with duplicates and games which really haven't inspired anything.

>wasn't anywhere as influencial as Halo.
Ah yes, the ps1 classic Halo.

Shot by a nigger, yeah

as an FPS, goldeneye was more influential than halo. Halo's influence was largely it's network/online features on the side of consoles, very few games took from halo gameplay wise

mario party is just a knockoff of bishi bashi special and point blank.

>The N64 was more influential

So influential that they were forced to go CD, produce an actual fucking controller, watch in horror as their newest competitor moved and sold product in a way they couldn't imagine while televised on the news 24/7 with the PS2 and dropped to their knees and blew third party developers for anything they could stem the tide with.

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Saturn was a pathetic console. Especially after the excellent Genesis.

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Mario 64 set the standard on 3D player controlling, OoT took that to another level, the games we play today control the way they do because of them, they are by far the most influential games of that era for developers and players.

FF7 for example is said to be influential, but not really, it was more that it made America a market for JRPG, but it didn't left a impact in game design or anything. American devs are not making JRPGs today, they are making shooters (goldeneye, halo) and 3rd person camera games (Mario 64, OoT).

What games took direct inspiration from Goldeneye? As in, what games obviously looked like Goldeneye clones or took ideas that Goldeneye established? I'm not calling it a bad game, just asking what games it ended up influencing.

Time splitters and any game with headshots.

the entire generation had shooters on N64 following goldeneye's example. In the same generation as Halo, people were taking from CoD or medal of honor

The shovelware that is completely forgotten about outside of memes like Bubsy 3D. Every dominant console gets flooded with shovelware. Just look at the garbage that gets put on PSN and eShop.

Both.

Everything you said it's about hardware sales, it sold poorly, doesn't mean it wasn't influential, Mario 64 sold 12 Million, that's more than every single PS1 game.

It had high software sales, but not enough software.

PS1 went full Atari with shovelware because of how cheap CDs were

Saturn was basically a genesis 2 in terms of library, if you actually liked the genesis and not a mascot platformer you'd know this.

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They both had their positives and negatives. The N64 had a solid amount of really good titles but overall the amount of games on the system was limited The PS1 had a massive variety of titles spanning all genres and the games were far more affordable. I'd say overall that the PS1 was better and I was a massive Nintendo fanboy as a kid that only wanted Nintendo consoles. In hindsight I would have asked for a PS1.

That's not an example,

Playstation had the better game library but N64 is fine too.

>Amerifats still comparing events from 5 years ago to multiple yearly school shootings

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Nobody liked Sega software that much, that was Saturn's problem, the Genesis did great in America because of marketing, the attitude, the grown ups console, the radical console, Sonic, and so on.

Sony saw that and took that market for itself, leaving sega with nothing but it's hardcore fans, and they dissapointed even them with not doing a single Sonic game.

Turok 2

I thought I was looking at one of thoss old 1920s movies, but then I remembered it's Panzer Dragoon.

>Saturn was basically a genesis 2 in terms of library
Bullshit. Saturn was the original no games machine.

Nintendo's N64 era involved more influential breakthrough's only for several their major franchises but not for the game industry as a whole (ie. "We found a good new format for our for Mario and Zelda, so fuck our supporting parties"). The influence of the PS1/PS2 reached far wider.

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>crippled by bandwidth limitations
lol
>N64 - 9bit bus x 500MHz clock / 1 cycle per required / 8 bits per byte = 562.5 MB/s bandwidth
>PS1 - 32 bit bus x 50MHz clock / 1.5 cycles per required / 8 bits per byte = 133 MB/s bandwidth

I'm not complaining about Mario 64 being on the list. I'm pointing out that Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong 64 shouldn't be on the list, because nothing was inspired by Banjo-Kazoonie; it was doing the same thing that Mario 64 did.

Castlevania SotN spawned a whole genre. Tony Hawk helped spawn a ton of skateboard games, although I don't recall when those got popular. FIFA is still going on today, Medal of Honor was certainly influential on later console FPS titles, Metal Gear Solid is fairly famous, Silent Hill and horror games became a lot more noteworthy on the PS1, Tekken is still running all this time later. And despite your claims, JRPGs got a lot more cinematic after FF7 showed them what they could get away with by using cutscenes throughout their games. A technological leap which wasn't possible with earlier systems, sure, but it was the first game that kickstarted the whole thing - there weren't Saturn RPGs that were using FMV like FF7 did.

Sure, there are games on the PS1 list which are pretty irrelevant. Ape Escape was more a tech demo of the twin control sticks and those controls weren't used in much else. Oddworld didn't inspire many new adventure games. But I'd say that far more of the PS1 list inspired future games than the N64 list.

PS1, they entered the console market for the first time and fucking killed nintendo and sega

They were so not influential they had to follow sony in format, controls, business, they had to change tactics so god damn much. Stop running your mouth with your little apple-tier anectdotes and shit. Gran turismo sold nearly just as fucking much as mario 64, are you going to tell me that this racing game is fucking influential? Fuck off, it's over you lost in every way you could lose.

>arcade gears
you don't actually believe that was worth mentioning, do you?

No that's the N64 silly.

>everything must run in sync or else it all falls apart
lol
>N64 - 9bit bus
N9

I never really played PS1 so I'm biased. However, I do enjoy Metal Gear Solid. Even compared to its sequels, it stands out as more simple, pure MGS.

Except it's the game themselves the influentials, not the format they were delivered on, nobody is claiming the genius of sticking with carts on that era.

You guys play 3rd person games with a certain control of the player, of the camera because of those two games.

Before them things like Tomb Raider which was 3rd person had Tank Controls like Resident Evil.

Both won because they're both worth having and both have games that are still worth talking about as well as playing today.

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>I have this game.
It's that one game I never wanted to pop in. Same with the Razor Scooter game, just stayed away from both of those.

>No that's the N64 silly.
Funny coming from the guy who has exactly one game series he shows webms of in every thread to try and proselytize how good the Saturn is. Talk about cherrypicking.

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64 bit instructions
cope

>N64 has no games

youtube.com/watch?v=3sIYe74sczE

It's an okay version of Tetris. One of the few N64 games that actully ran at 60fps.

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If we're going by pure quantitative results, N64.
If we're going by revolutionary and qualitative then it's a bit more muddy. PS1 has the Resident Evils, MGS, Chrono Cross and others but N64 basically mastered the art of 3D platforming and made several entirely new genres with OoT, Goldeneye and Super Smash Bros.

In many ways that webm is fucking amazing.

0/10 bait

>"We found a good new format for our for Mario and Zelda, so fuck our supporting parties"

20 years later and Nintendo is still like this.

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The saturn gave us the console dashboard,
The fuck did the N64 give us?

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I had more fun on my friend's n64 than I ever did on my ps1 because I was a brainlet child and couldn't play anything with mechanics deeper than a puddle.

Playstation.
N64 sold so poorly that to this day, Nintendo still is unable to afford making a console on par with competitors.

Proper 3D
Non meme architectures
Analog stick

>You guys play 3rd person games with a certain control of the player, of the camera because of those two games
I'll concede to that.

>mastered the art of 3d platforming
>Platforming proceeds to die.
>Made several new genres!
>Not on their console, had to beg for a survival horror, smash is a joke of clacking.

The PS1 outsold the N64 even in the US to such a degree that to this day it's still a puzzle to me how it seems "canon" wisdom that the N64 won in the US.

Actually playable games.

PS1 obviously, as the 64 is an abortion of a console with exactly 2 good games, and one of the worst controllers ever. The only people who defend it are people who grew up with it or Nintendo fanboys.

4 player split screen

>Proper 3D
PC did that,
>non meme arch- seriously nigger I can't even type that.
>analog stick
We had that back during atari, fuck PC had one for a while.

You fucking idiots. There's no winner in this. The "console wars" are dumb. If anything, BOTH consoles won.

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1999 zoomer here. I owned both but PS1 by far. Crash 3, Spyro 3, and RE2 were some of my favorite games in childhood. N64 was great but I never owned the classics like mario kart 64 and smash.

fog, lots and lots of fog.

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I owned both

What's stopping you? All 3 parts emulate well in Mednafen and SSF these days. Just get MedGui Reborn if Mednafen's command line style bothers you.

It's also really fucking good like you're really missing out

Do you notice that every 64fag just asspulls anecdotes every time this thread is made?

Show me an actual analog stick, as in one used by just your thumb before N64.

The Gamcube was far more powerful than the PS2, and with less overhead it could edge out the Xbox in certain cases as well

>only 2 good games
>only 2
>only
>2

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Emulate DK64.

2600 doesn't have an analog stick

>N64fags had to deal with these pieces of shits while PSXchads had the GOAT SOTN
>hell the N64 barely had any 2D sprite games
>neither did it have Tekken, Soul Edge, Altered Beast or any other 3d fighter, if you where looking for a serious fighting game on N64 you only had the butchered port of Killer Instinct
>racing games aside from Mario Kart and F-zero where barren, PSX also got the better ports of games like NFS and WipeOut
>no JRPG's or RPG's in general aside from Quest 64
>no unique genre's like Stealth Games, Horror Games, Flight games, Puzzle games,
really the N64 was only good if you liked Mario and Zelda

FPS multiplayer on consoles and Platformers in 3D done right
Also the targeting system and 3rd person combat done properly as well as cinematic story telling with ingame cutscenes

Objectively the PS1. I enjoy both, though.

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>As far as I remember it was all about racing
I'm still amazed at how many racing games I owned for the PS1 back in the day, I'm not even into racing games.

N64 dabbed. If a kid had N64, you were 100% guaranteed to have fun if you went over to his house.

PSX was great, too. But I'd give N64 the slight edge.

>Proper 3D
already wrong. arcade games gave us that.
>Analog stick
sega had it first.

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PS1 for my money. I owned both. PS1 games hold up to this day, I played one on the weekend. The only 64 game I've played in the last decade was Ogre Battle 64.

If the only thing you like are 3d platformers and racers then buy a 64. If you like any other genre PS1.

To be fair the way N64 fanboys jerk off OoT and SM64, it might as well have two

Imagine the Saturn trying to render something like this instead of tiny corridors. Fucking lol, it would explode.
>emulate
Disgusting.

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Yes but it also had more than 10 games.

Yes, Mario and Zelda

>Altered Beast
I think you meant to say Bloody Roar

the Saturn in particular has really crisp graphics. None of that wobble like the PSX (it does a bit in some games) or blurry textures like N64.
N64 games had the physics computation advantage. Racing games on the N64 were really solid and had more realistic physics than titles on the other consoles. It's action-adv games benefit from this too. The PSX was really slow when given any demanding mathematical tasks. Gran Turismo is an astounding technical achievement but its simulation and logic run slow as dogshit. I think the Saturn was just kind of complicated so ports and arcade-style games, relatively simpler 2d games and rail shooters were just easier to make and took advantage of the system's strengths well. had it had a more cohesive development and a longer life, it could have easily had the best library.

alot of the shovelware overlapped between the PS1 and N64
dont forget the N64 also had its own share of shovelware

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Saturn kids:
>Dead as a Dreamcast
>Faked death to move to Japan for JP exclusive Saturn games and to train under Sega Sanshiro.

N64's bandwidth demands were much greater due to e.g. having a z buffer and very high random access latency

But what about the CHOCOLATE CHIP KOOKIE discs that lack the space for PS2 and Xbox games?

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What, foggy fields? Shouldn't be a problem. Imagine the N64 running anything at 60FPS.

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>already wrong. arcade games gave us that.
We're talking about consoles
>3rd party add on
lol

fuck i need sleep

Nintendo gonna Nintendo

Yeah, Saturn's got quirks in its visuals but never gets as extreme as the PS1 with how heavy the 15bpp dithering or wobble can be at times.

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>The Gamcube was far more powerful than the PS2,
Unless you wanted to do alpha effects, or particle effects, or framebuffer effects, or any kind of physics.

>F-zero
>Smash bros
>Kirby 64

I don't disagree about DK64 or Banjo, the N64 is all about Mario 64, Zelda and a bit of Goldeneye.

>Castlevania SotN spawned a whole genre.
Metroid did it before just without levels, you call them metroidvania now for a reason, not sotn like.

>Tony Hawk helped spawn a ton of skateboard games
Tony was popular from the start, but it's not a point for the PS1, those games were everywhere, including the N64 itself, also Tony kinda started a gen and killed it in the same gen, like the collect a thon platformers that Banjo inspired.

>FIFA is still going on today
FIFA was on Genesis before and was not the top football game, that was PES/Winning eleven, it's on the PS3/360/WII gen that FIFA became the number one.

>Medal of Honor was certainly influential
Like Goldeneye was, both are dead now.

>Metal Gear Solid is fairly famous
Yeah, it was.

>Silent Hill and horror games became a lot more noteworthy on the PS1
Not true, Silent Hill always sold terribly, horror games were never popular, Resident Evil was the popular one and got a lot of attempts to make it big like it did, but no one succeded except for more Resident Evil (who got more and more action and sold more and more).

>Tekken is still running all this time later.
Sure, but Virtua Fighter came before and was the template for 3D fighters, Tekken became more popular but that doesn't mean that much, might as well claim Smash as the greatest then.

>Gran turismo sold nearly just as fucking much as mario 64, are you going to tell me that this racing game is fucking influential?
Yes? but because you're a retard, you don't see every single racing game that tried to be GT in every single gen until now, including MS own Forza.

they just downgrade the sound quality and textures, the latter of which just makes the GC ports run faster anyway.

Wow that game with about a one inch drawdistance with the some of the most boring gameplay I've ever experienced is really impressive. Thank god they released that instead of a good Sonic game like someone on the planet might of actually wanted.

>Snoy grasping at straws

absolutely SEETHING that sega beat nintendon't to the punch again.

BING BING ONE BIG YOSHI PLEASE

>denial

>very high random access latency
>N64 RAM latency - 60ns (retrocdn.net/images/6/68/Direct_RDRAM_datasheet.pdf), down to 15ns in cache (retrocdn.net/images/c/c3/Oki_Concurrent_RDRAM_datasheet.pdf)
>PS1 - 60ns latency (retrocdn.net/images/a/a9/KM48_datasheet.pdf)

Rayman 1 was the best game of that gen.

Nope, however Rayman 2 was indeed the most ported game of that gen.

RPGs weren't that big of a thing to begin with. Everything outside of Squeenix wasn't played.

This but swap PS1 and N64

>>racing games aside from Mario Kart and F-zero where barren, PSX also got the better ports of games like NFS and WipeOut
Wipeout 64 is still really good
also you're forgetting:
Extreme-G 1 and 2
SF Rush 2 and 2049
Top Gear Rally
Ridge Racer 64
Crusin' USA and World
Vigilante 8

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>The N64 didn't have quality games. It had 20fps games and a lot of racers. A lot and lot of racing game

Playstation had way more franchise racing games. Most of them horrible

Both had their pros and cons. My older brother owned a PS1 and I owned a N64. Eventually I got my own PS1 by 1998 for the RPG's, Crash, Resident Evil games, ect.

>Extreme-G 1 and 2
>SF Rush 2 and 2049
>Top Gear Rally
point taken, i didnt have these ones on the system
>Ridge Racer 64
while a good game id rather have all the other Ridge Racer games that where still on PSX, same deal with WipeOut
>Vigilante 8
another game that had a better port on PS1

Is there a reason to play the N64 or PS1 versions of SF Rush 2049?

Also this salty console war bullshit.

Guys. WE won. Consumers won. Both had fun games, passion projects of their creators. Guilty pleasure "bad" games. Fun games to play by yourself. Games to play with friends. Games with soul.

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Yeah this, they were a ton of JRPG but they didn't sell all that great, even for Squaresoft itself.

The only big JRPG was Final Fantasy, with the best selling being 7 and then dropping a bit with 8 and dropping more with 9.

DQVII is the best selling non FF JRPG (4M) and it was released only in Japan.

What FF7 made was a local impact in which JRPG actually could sell in america instead of flopping hard, but it didn't completely change the market to jrpg domination, one of my favorite games Xenogears barely made it to 1 Million, Chrono Cross didn't make it to 2 Million either and they were very high selling jrpg of the era.

>Who won?

Neither.

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Playstation killed off all the smaller consoles and if not for Microsoft wanting to enter the console gaming space there would probably only be a Sony and Nintendo system. Maybe Apple if Steve Jobs saw a hole in the market to fill.

yeah, the marketing department was like: Guys we have this super advanced 3D gaming, system, the most advanced consumer graphics. Shouldn't we focus on action games???

and so N64 became a licensed sports/racing shovelware haven, while PS1 got the rest of the shovelware.

>Segafags still coping after more than 20 years because no one remembers the Shitturn
lol that piece of shit couldnt even display transperancy

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I've been a pc fag from my youth and I play more ps1 games than I do PC games from that era. Though I just replayed some old CRPGs lately. PC was too FPS focused back then for my taste.

Not him, but you’re a retard. This isn’t a Jew thing, and I fucking hate Jews.

Fuck you asshole
We are here to argue, stop ruining everything

I owned both and enjoyed both. But I can say I preferred the PS1 without throwing a fit if someone disagrees. My brother feels the opposite, people like different things.

64 is fucking trash. It barely has games.

RPGs were always big actually. They were big on the NES, SNES, Genesis had quite a few. PS1 and Saturn had loads. For some reason the N64 didn't. I only ever see the argument that RPGs weren't big until FF7 in these N64 threads though, despite the SNES having a massive RPG presence where tons of its best games were RPGs.

Why?

People conflate their experience with the reality. They never played an rpg till FF7 so no one did.

FF1 was my first and I played the snot out of SNES rpgs. My rental store was full of them and they were often gone so people were fucking playing them.

PC gaming is pathetic. Loving the bloat of utter shit.

legend of dragoon, tales of destiny, arc the lad, arc the lad 2, and star ocean 2 were all million-sellers on ps1.

jrpgs obviously existed before ff7, but ff7 is what turned it into a mainstream genre outside of japan because sony actually put a real budget into advertising it AND released it in europe. nintendo never supported jrpgs like sony did with ff7.

Then why didn't it have any? The number of high quality action games on the PS1 blow it out of the water. I mean I liked Battletanx as much as you, but N64 has nothing to offer like a Twisted Metal or an Ace Combat.

JRPGs were mainstream way before FF7. They were a critical genre during the 8 and 16-bit eras.
>nintendo never supported jrpgs like sony did with ff7.
they did, but they miscalculated a ton of things and had a too hands-off approach to it. Not only did Sony get a killer title that they knew was going to be important, they made sure everyone imaginable knew it. They made it a premiere title. They did with it what they would do with Metal Gear Solid, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro as well.

Nintendo also had massive RPGs. They just didn't expose them to absolutely everyone and pussyfooted around their presence - at best dedicating a column in nintendo power to it.

It was already a mainstream genre, but it was never given the limelight that platformers were.

As much as I love Nintendo, I gotta give it to the PlayStation on this one. It had 3x the number of quality exclusives compared to the N64.

>JRPGs were mainstream way before FF7.
not outside of japan, they weren't. they were as niche as niche can be before ff7.

PS1 objectively but N64 had more soul

Another N64 rumor, historical revisionism does not work.

Europe is still mostly white friend. Sweden is still 90% white while america is 56% and dropping. Theres more muslims living in america and blacks than the whole continent of europe combined. Sad.

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it's not revisionism, it's the truth. i mean, just look at final fantasy alone: nintendo didn't bring several of the games over to the west, censored the few that they did release, didn't release any of them in europe, and barely promoted them. and this is final fantasy, the most normalfag jrpg series pre-pokemon. then there were other disasters like their terrible marketing campaign for earthbound.
it took sony coming along and seeing the true potential in the genre to make non-niche audiences outside of japan care.

>nintendo didn't bring several of the games over to the west, censored the few that they did release, didn't release any of them in europe, and barely promoted them. and this is final fantasy,
And they were still smash hits. Like holy shit, how incredible is that? Despite everything they did amazingly. Now imagine if someone with confidence in the genre spearheaded a benchmark release. I can only wonder what would happen...

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>And they were still smash hits.
they weren't. their sales were nothing compared to ff7.
to put things in perspective: in north america, ff6 sold 450,000 units on the snes, total. ff7 sold 500,000 units in its first three WEEKS.
the jrpg market outside of japan is like night and day between pre-ff7 and post-ff7. it's not even close.

>they weren't. their sales were nothing compared to ff7.
Of course, one was pushed like it deserved to be, the rest despite the odds stacked against them, they did very well.

That age group used to be universally considered the downfall into new school trash 4 years ago, but now you're trying to cram yourself into the old school.

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Nonwhites liked the 64, whites like the playstation. Got it.

>average sounds in a N64 game
youtube.com/watch?v=_cOkoxdzFuA

N64 was way more powerful but was held back by using cartridges, whereas as ps1 was weak but discs could hold way more so the games felt like hey had higher production value. Personally I prefer the ps1s library but there’s good exclusives on both

>who needs a high quality sound chip and storage space for samples? Heh!
CDs might take 10 seconds to load a stage but N64 music will be bad for eternity.

im glad i grew up with kino soundtracks
youtube.com/watch?v=F6Y0HFyq9CY
instead of this shit
youtube.com/watch?v=Zw7cJu-eJf0

PS1 sold more and overall had better games that helped the industry grow and develop.
N64 was still good though, but very clearly inferior in every way but graphically

Can you imagine if this clown stepped down before Nintendo made the N64
they would have actually dominated the landscape
>lol fuck 3rd party devs we are fucking Nintendo, they should bent to us or get bent we dont need them

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>that kid whose parents hated him so much they bought him a PS1 instead of an N64
No wonder he grew up to be an incel freak

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fpbp

T. Baby born in 2003

>incel
dilate

>grows up on N64
>becomes a woman

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>had both a ps1 and n64
>32 year old virgin who still lives home

>get PS1
>play hundreds of kino games that span all genres
>get N64
>eh, super mario and goldeneye with everything else being dogshit shovelware
The saturn had more games than the n64

>kino

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yamauchi may have been too much of a hard ass for his own good, but at least he didn't infuse nintendo with soi like iwata

>Hundreds
Proportional to the whole library, PS1 has the lowest number of games that still actually hold up. The system focused so hard on VA and AMVs which are now all total shit. Meanwhile the gameplay is so many is clunky as shit with truly abysmal graphics and terrible loading times.

N64 was better because its games influenced new gameplay mechanics for the industry. All PS1 did was popularize cutscenes and needless padding in games.

THE FUCKING ACCURACY OF THIS STATEMENT IS THRU DA ROOF DAWG

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PS1 sold more but N64 but N64's games were better. Think about how often people talk about the N64 compared to the PS1. It's not even close which one is more fondly remembered. Same thing with the next gen. PS2 crushed GCN in sales, but people rarely ever reminisce about PS2 because the games were mostly forgettable and outdated within a couple years.

I would be willing to take you seriously with the first half but you went full retard.

>Iwata
>the guy that saved Nintendo from the mess Yamauchi created
>soi

>saved
WiiU was a bigger disaster than anything by yamauchi, 3ds is also the lowest selling handheld in nintendo's catalog

owned both and gotta say ps1 has better game variety while the old ass nintendo had some very good games too but less variety like it was mario pokemon and duke nukem back in the day

wrong, the jRPG catalog of ps1 alone has aged better than N64 titles. The only n64 to truly be timeless is paper mario 64

N64’s only good games were Mario 64 or from Rare

i like how you ignored both the Wii, DS and Switch
the 3DS sold 80 million systems how the fuck is the lowest selling nintendo handheld when the GBC, GBA and fucking Virtual Boy sold less

>list of PS1 games that still hold up
>almost all of them
>list of nintendork games that still hold up
>NONE because they keep remaking mario, zelda, metroid,etc games all the fucking time

GBC sold 110 million, GBA is at 80 million. 3ds is 75 million

>virtual boy
meme accessory

>better fun games-to-not fun games ratio
N64
>more fun games in general
PS1
>financially
PS1
>better multiplayer experience/couch co-op
N64

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Games wise, PS1 had at least 20 times more. The best n64 games were among the best, but I feel like there are 10 at most

>I'm a zoomer and never owned either
most young people played on a PS1 or N64.
I was born in 2000 and grew up with both, hell my N64 still works.

>reddit frog

>N64 outsold PS1 in Europe
Son what fucking continent were you in?

Ogre battle 64 shits all over paper mario imo.

The PS1 dominating the way it did should never have happened. It was because of Nintendo and Sega slipping up badly why Sony was able to get such a massive success in the industry. The Genesis vs SNES was supposed to have led to an even stronger rivalry with Saturn and N64 but man did these two companies blow it. At least Nintendo has consistently been wise enough to sell consoles at a profit for most of their history though.

joel(vargskelethor) mentioned this once too while playing mario 64. he said kdis who plays n64 were good kids, wento church, ate their veggies and kids who played ps...DIVORCED PARENTS. literally just those words.

joel also doesnt like playing mascot games from PS1 because he think's he's "betraying" nintendo while doing so, he can shut the fuck up

Not gonna lie, a part of me died with the Dreamcast.

Ps1 by and large had way better library that wasn't carried by like 5 games. Either way that gen was total shit not many games still hold up

>The gen started out in 1994 with the Saturn in japan, but it sold pretty bad
Actually the Saturn did very well in Japan up until like '97, for a short while there it was the top console.

64 had better games, so 64 won

This board is 87% zoomer

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>can't enjoy a game because it got a sequel
Fucking lol

PS1

Sony won every console generation since the PS1, N64 was the 2nd in sales (thanks to the Nintendo brand name), but 3rd in library (behind the Saturn)

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>Sony won every console generation since the PS1

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>ps2
>not worthwhile
Here’s your (you)

PSX won. 64 was better

Perfect Dark.

it isnt a sequel if its the exact same game with a new lick of paint, nintendo shit has beeen the same shit for 40 years

I had both.

Oh so you are just shitposting

20 years later these manbabies that own every single system since the NES still argue whats better while owning every system and all the games on them.

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>GBC sold 110 million,
thats combining it with the original Gameboy
the GBC only sold like 30 million
>meme accsecory
it was its own console you idiot

Zoomer here.

Sony had Tifa so therefore they win.

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It means people *born* in 98 you retard

GTFO nintendork

PS2 is right there in the "console winners", it's the best system of all-times.

No u

japanese Saturn's library is superior to the N64's library, but all the JRPGs and adventure games require japanese knowledge

lots of import-friendly brawlers, shmups and puzzles tho

>Load up Silent Hill, FF7, FF8, FF9, Parasite Eve, Klonoa
>Get cool FMV cutscenes to get me invested into the game

>Load up Mario 64, load up OOT
>In-engine cutscenes

Just look at this board's obsession with gaudy rgb shit and you'll see the average age is no higher than 16.

'99 PS1 is peak console gaming, while it didn't have generation defining games like '97 and '98 did the sheer amount of great games that came out that year is just absurd. No other console will ever come close.

In terms of hardware sales, the PS1 won without a doubt (100M+ sales compared to the around 36M sales of the N64 and to the less than 20M sales of the Saturn).

Not sure about the software sales, since I'm saying all of these things based on old research, but I'm guessing that the array was the same as the hardware sale one.

Also, stop fucking saying zoomer.

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Remaking and making sequels isn't the same ya dumb dumb.

Playstation by a landside, owned and enjoyed both though, N64 was the multiplayer king because none of my friends liked fighting games.

Gran Turismo 2 was the best looking game on consoles back then

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sure kid, the same mario games for 40 years without changes are "sequels"

the rally stages in 2 were mindblowing at the time

SWEET HOME MY FIRST COUSIN

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Financially the PS1, in terms of legacy the N64. PS1 did way less for 3D game design and had less innovative titles.

N64 had better stand-out games.

PS1 had more games with varying quality.

I had fun with both.

Racing Sims have become a bit of a niche genre these days and so it's easy to discount Gran Turismo's importance at the time, that shit was completely mindblowing, no racing game could come close.

64>PS1
Gamecube=PS2
Wii

PS1 by a mile, more sales, more games, more good games, more exclusive good games, and the good games reached higher highs than the N64 ones
Only a retard would try and deny it, Nintendo shot themselves in the foot by pissing off all the third party developers

>and the good games reached higher highs than the N64 ones
lmaooooo PS1 doesn't have a game even half as good as Perfect Dark or Ocarina

>sure kid, the same mario games for 40 years
This is your brain on snoy

>m-muh Zelda, muh Rare
Solid games but shit look Squares output alone on the PS1 and they put out more good games for it than there are good games total on the N64

at the time PS1
current day N64. Sorry niggas but I just am not dealing with load times to play dinosaur 3D games that control clunky as shit.

gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Gran_Turismo_Circuits

>the first Gran Turismo had a grand total of 12 tracks
That just seems so tiny now.

>this delusion

Typical Nintendo fag revisionist history.

>PS1>>>>N64
>PS2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GC
>Wii>PS3
>PS4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wiiu

>Perfect Dark
7/10 without the Nintendo Bonus

cope nintendie
>*plays vib ribbon*
nothin personnel kid, maybe one day you'll get some games

>implying
it is the best first person shooter ever made.

>m-muh JRPGs
Lol

Perfect Dark is unplayable, the framerate is awful, Goldeneye is the best rare fps.

Keep coping. The greatest games ever and most cherished titles in history are on the 64

>always liked fighting games and rpgs
>not a single good one on the N64
>also like FPS games but also have a PC in the house
Who was the N64 for? Parents that just called every game console a nintendo?

>not becoming one with the framerate
>not playing 360 version with the better framerate
>saying Goldeneye is better when Perfect Dark is literally nothing more than a 3000% better version of the same game

Any way you look at it, PS1 won.

name them

This, it's such a 7/10 game but since it's an N64 game it gets overrated to hell and back,

Proto Xbox, Nintendo should have doubled down on Americans devs, they loved the N64, instead they dropped their pants for japanese devs for the GC and lost all the FPS / Sports devs to Microsoft.

And adventure games, shooters, survival horror, arena fighters, and dungeon crawlers
Square had a lot of variety back then

>>always liked fighting games and rpgs
Congrats. You had no friend and have never had sex

Everybody already knows what they are.

It's real strength was in the amount of cars it had, especially Gran Turismo 2. It was amazing how you could literally buy your dad's car in the game and it looked just like the real thing

I only owned an N64 but the PS1 easily beats it, N64 has quality but PS1 has both quality and quantity

Unfortunately none of those games are good. But you sure had a lot of them

>play fighting games with friends all the time
>reeeeeeeee you have no friends reeeeeeeeeee
Take your pill

depends if you were a wealthy family that buys name brand products like nintendo or from poverty and living paycheck to paycheck and had to get the off brand play station

i would like to take this moment to congratulate all play station gamers on surviving through their hardships, it must have been an ordeal to be raised poor

I own a Genesis, a Saturn(with arcade stick), a Dreamcast(with fishing reels) and a 3DO

What do I win

Oh of course: gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Category:GT1_Cars

>almost 200 cars
>in 1997

And don't forget that feeling of race modification

>mfw

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>hating objectively good games because reeeee playstation
You're dumber than a nigger

>it must have been an ordeal to be raised poor
And also not having friends

>>hating objectively good games
You didn't list any games

eurhoes mad

Front Mission 3
Parasite Eve
Tobal 2
Bushido Blade
Einhander
Chocobos Dungeon
Xenogears
Vagrant Story
Saga Frontier
That's just Square, none of the games with Final Fantasy in the title, and not even all of them, the list grows larger if you start adding in developers like Capcom or Konami
You're still a retard

That list is filled with a huge amount of filler. Half those games would be seen as unremarkable on the PS1, and thus wouldn't even be recommended.

Damn i wish i played PS1 games when i was a child.
I still had AND have a good time playing N64 games with my friends
I hope you anons had a great time playing all those amazing games.
My favorite n64 games was MM, had a blast playing it as a child and as adult when i could understand the story.

more like 0/10. perfect shart is a 5fps dumpster fire.

i literally cannot think of a action game on N64 as good as Omega Boost

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Star Fox counts?

Omega boost is all flash, no substance.

contrarian points awarded

>5 games on the n64 list are from the same franchise
nintendo fans will buy anything as long as it has Mario’s name on it

N64. Only because Smash Bros.

I won because I shelved both of these shit consoles and continued playing SNES

PS1 emulation has gone a long way. There's now:

>PGXP (reduce wobbly textures and deformations)
>GPU overclock (eliminate slowdown)
>

PGXP in action:

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4wiHgohFwm4ZVNTAce_JiWp2JDfOXyHB

The first couple of seconds in that gif looks like an actual picture of cars that could have been taken back then. Interesting.

>Front Mission 3
Thanks for reminding me I need to replay that game.

Maybe if you were blind.

Imagine having to grow up playing Smash 64 rather than Tekken 3. Could never be me.

why they would not get GoldenEye?

PS1, not even a question

No he's right, that's pretty much as lifelike as shitty mid 90's digital camera picture quality was.

The chance of being shot>Living in a wageslave shithole that lets third worlders take over their entire continent

the kids I knew:
PS1 kids:
>Invite you over for Twisted Metal and Soul Blade
>Have fun playing random demos off of demo CDs
>Would let you borrow their RPGs they weren't playing
>Had that incredibly shitty Dragon Ball GT fighting game but you still had fun playing it because Cell and Buu sagas weren't airing in North America yet

N64 kids:
>Autist weebs that spent all their time playing Pokemon Stadium

Go take a shower

Why did everyone have that stupid Dragon Ball GT game anyway? Like, everyone hated the damn game but everyone still forced themselves to play it just because it was Dragon Ball.

>Have fun playing random demos off of demo CDs
Thanks for reminding me how much I miss demo discs. It's no exaggeration to say that I spent as much time playing PS1/PS2 demo discs as I did playing games I actually owned.

N64 if you had friends

PS if you didn't

>hang out with friends that have PS1s
>play Tekken, CTR, Twisted Metal, NFL Blitz, and really any number of a wide variety of games
>Hang out with the one friend who has a N64
>play Mario Kart, Smash, or Goldeneye and only those three games
Other weird anecdotal thing, the N64 kids I knew had at most 5 games and their parents wouldn't even let them rent other games while the kids with PS1s had around a dozen games and would rent other stuff all the time
Our local video store also had way more PS1 games, the game room had 3 walls covered in PS1 games with the N64 games only had 2 shelves

>Racing Sims have become a bit of a niche genre these days
>MMOs have become a bit of a niche genre these days
>Strategy games have become a bit of a niche genre these days
Wow sounds like games fucking suck now oh wait

I blame microsoft
>Dude Halo and Gears dude, drink redbull gamer fuel dude

>Would let you borrow their RPGs they weren't playing
GOAT tier RPG that isnt being remade for some gay reason coming through

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>N64 list is filled with duplicates and games which really haven't inspired anything.
>games which really haven't inspired anything.

This is good. Because Smash consolided as the major multiplayer fighting game also 1vs1 fighting game that no other shit-copycat-enterprise were able to copy until now in recent years. That's the best part of Nintendo. Nintendo do awesome games that no junk publishers can copy even as in average.

Halo Sucks

>muh smash is a unique arena fighter
Ergheiz

And fun fact for you fucking zoomers there was a point in the 90s-00s when those three genres were fucking KING genres
>Everquest, CnC, Nascar Racing at the same time
>later
>vanilla WoW, Gran Turismo 2 and CnC Generals
Sad that gaming is a bunch of gay loot boxes now, no one would have tolerated this shit back in the day. They'll do away with violent FPS soon and everyone will only be allowed to play Splatoon and Overwatch

Isnt Smash just a faster version of The Outfoxies?

Ps1 aged better, Nintendo won up front. SotN, FF7, and MGS1 scaled beautifully in emulation. I had an N64 and wouldn't have traded it for the world, but come on though.

Ergheiz is more of a 3d fighter, the only game I could compare to smash at the time is outfoxies.

Ps1 won but N64 didn't really "lose" since it was also very successful.
Only loser that gen was the Saturn.

>Nintendo won up front
No it didn't, don't try and revise history man
Shit, Nintendo are the ones that solidified the third console curse

>EHHRRRRRGEIIZZZZZZZZ
man this game, i can still hear the menu cursor sounds. BZZZZZUUUUUIISHHSHHH BZZZZZUIIIISH

Unironically the loudest menu sounds ever i think.

Game was really cool. Loved that janky 3d RPG that was with it.

P.S.: lol youtube.com/watch?v=4TQl4sam2GY

>PS1 kids:
>>Autist weebs
>>Sat inside all day masturbating and playing cringy RPGs
>>Now all NEETs and losers

This

>smash is a joke of clacking.

Shut Up. Smash = Best Game Ever

Imagine rewriting history because of your bing bing wahoo fetish.

If true only because of Melee though

>N64 kids:
Still bitter and have to make shit up like this
>PS1 kids:
Moved on with their lives

Ever noticed how all these "The PS1 was better than the N64!" posts got a lot more frequent after Banjo got in smash and Steveposting got BTFO?

No? Not everything in life has to do with Smash my autistic friend

Well, you know... You've got a point there, since I actually do have Aspergers'.

Sorry to hear that

haha funny

>Segautists claiming the Saturn was better than the N64
lmao

N64 easily.
Also, FIFA 97-98 and World Cup where on the 64 too, my fellow zoomer

Cope

10 year old me: N64 > PSX > Saturn
31 year old me: PSX > Saturn > N64

I wouldn't trade the nN64 multiplayer memories and friends I made along the way for anything. The expansive collectathon games kept me busy in a poorfag family when I got 2 games a year on good years. However PSX holds a good 40% of my all time favorite games.
I had barely any knowledge of the Saturn back then (other than it came from Sega which was the enemy of any self respecting Nintendie) but now that I prefer faster pick up and play titles and weird experimental stuff I play it pretty frequently.

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t. Zoomer revisionism
Super Metroid did it before SOTN

thanks man

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N64 > PSX, but PSX had more variety and amazing games. PSX was pretty much just the Super Nintendo with the disk drive.

/thread

>N64 wins in America
>America has AC
>PS1 win in Europe
>Europe has no AC
It can't be a coincidence

both of them sound like the U.S.

The feeling knowing you own a Genesis, Saturn (With Arcade stick, Dreamcast, and a 3DO

You say this as if the AKI wrestling games weren't actually quality games

N64 > PS1

Name the classics/masterpieces

true

The Outfoxies - 1994

Yes, Smash 64 it looks like The Outfoxies

Kirby - 1992

Kirby (1992) is older, and it was created by Masahiro Sakurai himself. Smash 64 (created by Masahiro Sakurai himself) was more based on Kirby (1992) itself than in The Outfoxies.

true true

Kirby - 1992

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Dreamcast truly won the hearts and mind of visionaries.

Kirby - 1992 - gameplay

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The Outfoxies - 1994

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Based, fuck console kiddies

The Outfoxies - 1994 - gameplay

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>Saturn better than N64
Lol, you better get the fuck back on the banana boat

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The Outfoxies - 1994 - playing

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>tfw you were as smart kid who knew how to manage allowance and lawn mowing money, so you got to enjoy both

6+ years of a game gen is a long fucking time for a kid, so why consolewar? I don't understand how people couldn't get both consoles when for the price of 3 N64 games, you could get a PS1 to.

Eventually Saturns were on clearance for $40 as well, so it's you're own damn fault for not grabbing one of those.

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>posting low quality upscaled youtube garbage

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