Let's be honest:

I've seen a lot of mixed opinions about Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Is it worth getting full price or should I just wait for a sale?
I'd appreciate the opinions of anyone who's played/completed this.
Do you recommend buying something different like Tropical Freeze or Hyrule Warriors instead?

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In the terms of price to gameplay content, it's really up there, the main game and side blade stuff alone could easily hold you over for 100+ hours. The gameplay is fun, but the story starts off good, has a draggy as fuck middle with some cringe sprinkled in, but ends on a nice note. Be careful though, it is one of those "gets better 30 hours in", so keep that in mind I suppose.

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You'll get plenty of bang for your buck, but the majority of the game is grindy open world MMO content. If that's not your thing, then get Tropical Freeze instead.

I love it but it's very flawed and has a slow start.
If you aren't sure that it's up your alley, definitely wait for a sale and get something you're more certain you'll like first.

It should be easy to find a cheap used copy by now

But yeah its worth it

this user is pretty spot-on, it's a good game but takes a while to get going. I almost dropped it around 20 hours in as the early-mid portion just drags on, but it does get better and I'm glad I kept going. The prequel/DLC is good which a much faster pace if you want to try that out as a taster before diving into the main game I suppose. Having said that, Tropical Freeze is phenomenal so I'd strongly recommend picking that up as well if you can, but if you're really short on cash and won't be able to afford new games for a while then XC2 has plenty of content to tide you over for a while; DKTF is kinda short. I haven't played Hyrule Warriors.

It's one of the worst RPG's I've ever played

If you are a pirate chad like myself its a decent enough time and there is no reason not to give a shot
couldn't recommend it for more than 35$

XC2 isn't open world, it isn't an MMO, and it's hardly grindy at all by usual JRPG standards.

Nobody plays this game to rush through the story, user. The vast majority of your playtime will be spent on rolling blades, doing side quests, salvaging, mercenary missions, filling out affinity charts, etc. It's a massive grind. Don't be disingenuous.

I didnt think I would enjoy it but I loved it. The OST and settings are tremendous, the story is decent (with some cringe mixed in). The main story and side quests provide a wealth of content.

Do you like JRPGs? What's your opinion on Xenoblade 1?
I'd say get it because I enjoyed it tremendously, but I was also a huge fan of Xenoblade 1 and X so I was sold from the start.

It’s the most fun I’ve had with a game as flawed as it was but I can’t recommend it to everyone. I only bought it because what I had seen from it matched up with my taste in environments and it payed off because I also ended up likinh its combat, music, most of the characters and the themes it goes into.

Tropical Freeze is the better put together game, and much easier to recommend if you enjoy platformers.

The battle system isnt for everyone and the mechanics are NOT intuitive at all so theyll have a bit of a learning curve.

I hated auto attack mechanic and just waiting for meters to fil up so you could special attack, then rinse and repeat.

Just watch some gameplay on youtube. If you like waifus and offline MMOs then go ahead and get it.

the story is the main part of the game, most people are not going to try and do every sidequest and get every blade - there's no reason to do so. The main story alone is a good 70+ hours on an average playthrough, and makes up the vast majority of the game.
Personally, I clocked in 100+ hours and still didn't do all the sidequests and kept grinding to an absolute minimum as I wasn't interested in doing any of that. I rarely did any salvaging at all as it's mostly redundant, same with grinding affinity charts as they fill out on their own through normal play.

>I hated auto attack mechanic and just waiting for meters to fil up so you could special attack
That's what pouch items and art cancelling are there for.

If you scroll through Japanese seasonal anime and look up “isekai”, “harem”, and “shounen” in the genre list, then yes this game is for you.

If you hate those genres, then no.

you're supposed to setup blade combos, not just wait for the party gauge

>Xenoblade 2
>isekai

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I hate isekaishit and liked XC2. The only thing it really has in common with modern anime is the character designs and a couple comedy scenes.

XB2 is a late 80's anime though.

>Isekai

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The story is definitely not the main focus of the game. Xenoblade 2 is a side content grind focused game. If it wasn't, Monolith Soft wouldn't have spent literal months pumping out DLC content that supplemented that grind. If you engage the game's content in earnest, the majority of your time will not be spent on story-centric stuff. You're being disingenuous and misrepresenting the game via your own choice to ignore all that content.

> waiting nintendo IPs to go on sale
oh no no no no

I tried it after playing the first one and I didn't like it. It tried way too hard to be an anime and had the cringiest fucking voice acting I've heard in a while. The story and interactions between the characters has such obvious wish-fulfillment and fan service that's intended for beta cucks. It's also pretty grindy like the first one and the battles are full of fucking noise with the characters shouting their moves and enemies using the same 2 lines over and over again while you're fighting them; the first one had nonstop interactions between the characters in battle as they missed attacks and whatever but it was honestly fucking worse in this shitty game.
1/10 would not recommend unless you like this kind of shit.

Hey now, I saw Breath of the Wild on sale for 50 dollars once on the eshop!

If you're looking for sheer hours to play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or Hyrule Warriors Complete are both great choices. Tropical Freeze is amazing quality-wise but clocks in significantly shorter.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is great if you want a middle-ground between those two factors though. Fun combat system, fun characters, and hours of stuff to do. Just don't play it undocked if you want to be able to see what your doing.

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>The story is definitely not the main focus of the game
stopped reading right there
you're retarded

XB2's been on sale multiple times before, no reason to assume that won't happen again. It's also one of the Switch games that seems to have been permanently reduced to $50 at a bunch of retailers now, too.

>it's hardly grindy at all by usual JRPG standards
The Blade Affinity Charts alone kill this argument.

you can mute battle voices

>hundreds of hours of side content
>50-70 hour story at best
>"The side content is totally not the focus of the game, you knows! It's a linear, story-driven JRPG! I swear!"

they fill out on their own, I didn't have to do any grinding for them at all.
>>hundreds of hours of side content
but that's wrong, most of the hours are spent on the story

Nah, the story isn't actually that long. 40-60 hours at best.
The game neither focuses on story or gameplay though. It does both, since it expects you to explore the world, grind some stuff, do the sidequests and to focus on the story.

>but that's wrong, most of the hours are spent on the story
If you ignore most of the game's content, then sure. But you're not intended to play the game this way.

>they fill out on their own, I didn't have to do any grinding for them at all.
I'm sure you knew exactly what enemies to kill, and what certain items to feed them all by yourself didn't you special boy?

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based

It's more about the similarities in tone presented in both XB2 and most isekai animes than about XB2 having an isekai story.

says who?
I killed most enemies in my path, I never found myself going out of my way to kill anything. I didn't 100% the game but I did the majority of it until I was satisfied

>most of the hours are spent on the story
Wrong. I've put 400 hours into the game, I cleared NG story in 60 and skipped all cutscenes in NG+.

X is shit

the hell took you 300+ hours to do in the game?

You're shit, X was the best open world game ever made.

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>similarities in tone presented in both XB2 and most isekai animes
How so?

>says who?
Says the structure of the game and the way Monolith Soft handled its DLC content.

I'm also curious. I feel like I did my fair share and even started a NG+ run, and clocked in at 155

jerking off to anime titties like a degenerate

well I certainly felt no obligation to 100% everything.

S-ranking all Rare Blades, including Torna and DLC Blades, filling in all Driver affinity charts (including the NG+ ones), beating all of Challenge Mode on Normal and most of it on BoC, completing all sidequests, testing various builds and team setups.

If you like jrpgs, anime aesthetic, large explorable areas, a long and winding story, and lots of systems, you will like it. If this doesn’t sound appealing, skip it.

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That doesn't mean the game doesn't incentivize you to do so. Xenoblade 2 definitely encourages you to at least ATTEMPT to 100% it, even if you fall short of doing so.

same as me, I clocked in about 140 hours and left very little extras behind to do. Must've been at least 95% completion. Does that extra 5% really take that long?
>S-ranking all Rare Blades, including Torna and DLC Blades
but...why? Do you always level every character maxed out in every RPG you play as well? I never understood why people feel compelled to do that, there's no point.

>doesn't count my vote because I put never
nice rigged shit poll fucking nigger

in what way?

>Xenoblade 2 definitely encourages you to at least ATTEMPT to 100% it
how?

>but...why
Because I love playing the game and filling in affinity charts gives me an excuse to keep doing so.

>Do you always level every character maxed out in every RPG you play as well?
If the gameplay's fun and I can keep playing after defeating the final boss, yes, I usually do it.

Fan service, stupid comedy, harem shit.

Is Dragon Ball an isekai?

Yeah, I'm sure you've already played this game, cabalspammer

In a Cosmic sorta way yes

fair enough if that's what you enjoy, but personally I don't see that as the content of the game since you don't actively play it, it's something you can optionally grind in the background (for basically no reason at all besides personal satisfaction)

Great Game with LOTS OF content

Xenoblade 2 has similar gameplay to Elder Scrolls because you level up.

That's how stupid you sound right now.

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Those aren’t exclusive to isekai, nor are they indicative of similarity with isekai tone. The world, history, environments, music, character/villain dynamics and motivations, themes, etc create a massively different atmosphere from any anime from this decade, let alone seasonal isekai anime.

Played it, loved it so much I 100%'d it. It's an absolutely fantastic game, one of if not the best JRPGs in years and is well worth playing.

Preferably without any spoilers if you can manage it.

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yeah it does have similar gameplay to elder scrolls; they're both shit

>quests around every corner
>lots of rare Blades to roll
>repeatable mercenary missions
>field skill obstacles everywhere
>tons of salvaging spots
>unique monsters and super bosses
>Tiger! Tiger! and how it ties to the trio of Poppi models
>you can backtrack to any location during almost any point in the game
>Blade quests and affinity charts for rares
The list goes on. It dumps a lot of stuff on you and wants you to spend time on it.

>Is it worth getting full price or should I just wait for a sale?
Definitely wait for a sale. XB2 is a mixed bag, and even hated by some, for many reason.

First of all, the story and character design goes back to full on generic anime stuff. All the games are in a way, but XB2 goes full on "eyes come star shaped/catgirl noises/Mc getting getting slapped because he fell on the girl kinda trope/maid bots" anime.
Not everyone's taste. Plus, half of the game's characters are waifus.

The technical state is a bit more difficult. But its easier when comparing it to 1:
>no more field guide to reward exploration and most maps were linear as hell
>no more visible equip changes and no more equip changes period. instead you get timed MMO items that run out
>no more skill crafting to craft the skills you want and synergize with equipment sets
>no more dynamic slots but two set cores
>no more crafting of passive effects like running speed, but instead these things are locked behind buying all items in stores but their inventory unlocks throughout the game and you have to look up a guide so you dont unlock +ele resist when you wanted running speed
>citizens are not all characters anymore but most of them are generic NPCs now, and they dont have a shcedule but instead warp in and out when they need to be somewhere
>no more town affinity showing connections between town citizens and quests helping them
>+450 side quests in 1 reduced to roughly over 100 including blade quests
>gacha in a single player game meaning that you have to grind to use the gacha roulette to get the character you want and still might miss out on them on your playthrough
>rare blades have dialogue and come with their own quests so you might miss out on content as well

someone sure upset a lot of anime fags itt

He probably didn't put 300-400hrs in. There was a bug early on where the game counted playtime even when the Switch was in idle mode. I've got something like 300 hours clocked in and I've only probably put about 100ish.

>this stuff exists therefore you have to do all of it
I'm assuming you're someone that 100%'s every game they play then.

I thought that only happened to me, pissed me off so much when an extra 72 hours got added I almost reset the game

No and I didn't 100% this game. However, I did spend the majority of my playtime on side content and not story sections. Hell, I probably would have spent even LESS time on the story if I hadn't gotten the game at launch and took advantage of all the tweaks that later patches introduced.

>quests around every corner
"go fetch me 3 buttons"
>lots of rare Blades to roll
"if you release this blade you may never see it again!"
>repeatable mercenary missions
"squawk dont touch my feathers xD" for the 100th time
>field, skull obstacles everywhere
"help i can't open this door even though i can blow up even stronger material"
>tons of salvaging spots
pushing a button 3 times to get rewards sure is great content
>Tiger! Tiger! and how it ties to the trio of Poppi models
8bit game is better than this shit game
>you can backtrack to any location during almost any point in the game
like almost any game?
>Blade quests and affinity charts for rares
bloat

My review is that I enjoyed most of it. There are some glaring issues with pacing, level design (especially toward the end) and the gacha system, but the multitude of gameplay systems featured in this game weave into each other in pretty solid ways such that eventually you'll feel yourself actually playing the game of you actively engage them and take the time to understand how they layer with each other. And the environs and music are also pretty damn solid.

I went into this game wanting for a bogstandard JRPG experience with all its trappings, tropes and big tiddy anime girls and walked out 120 hours later satisfied.

All that said, FUCK whoever it was who thought it was good level design to place enemies 20-30 levels above the story point that auto-aggro you SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR STORY PROGRESSION PATH. That's the sort of shit you do 1 or 2 times as a gag, not regularly like it was a good fucking idea.

>All that said, FUCK whoever it was who thought it was good level design to place enemies 20-30 levels above the story point that auto-aggro you SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR STORY PROGRESSION PATH. That's the sort of shit you do 1 or 2 times as a gag, not regularly like it was a good fucking idea.
just avoid them dumbass

Oh and another thing. You thought games with mandatory stealth segments was bad? Try games with mandatory stealth segments THAT DON'T FEATURE STEALTH MECHANICS.

What do your quality judgments of that content have anything to do with this discussion?

XC1 >>>>> XCX >>>>>>>>>>>> drinking toiletbowl soup >>>>>>>>>>>>> anime trance music videos >>>>>>>>>> XC2=isekai anime

It's a very good game user, it's worth it, only contrarians a fagg*ts that don't like busty female characters hate it.

>Yea Forums suddenly hates Xenoblade Chronicles 2
What the fuck happened?

It's a good game. Just expect some grinding and rng.

Who the fuck needs to grind affinity charts to finish the story though? Besides completist autists. My charts are only 3/4 complete, and almost never went out of my path to fill them, and had no problems progressing through the game. Grinding is only there for those who want to grind in the first place.

>Yea Forums is a hivemind
people gave it a shot after seeing all the shill threads made by isekai lovers and realized it's fucking shit

most of this thread likes the game

haha yes i too remember when Yea Forums was genuinely excited for the game and not wildly shitposting 24/7 about "TAAAKE THIIIIIIIIS" or "CHOOOOORGE" or how xenoblade lost all its dignity with anime tiddy waifu otaku weeb neptunia pandering and like 25 other buzzwords while XCX magically became the most beloved game in the series for being so dark and mature even though that was shitposted in the exact same fucking way when it came out

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Yes that's generally the case, but i feel like it's just better form to either chuck them in the corner for players exploring and seeking a challenge, or have them not aggro you on sight.

The way it's done in XC2 makes me feel like some level designer cheekily looked at his supervisor and said "isn't this funny? Aren't we such clever boys for sticking a high level enemy smack in the middle of a corridor that the players must pass through? What a cheeky gag; what devious sods we are."

I love the game but the combat takes way too much time.

They either need to reduce the number of encounters, or shrink the health of the mob enemies. Boss fights were fine though.

where does this happen?

I dont remember this, are you mistaking it for DQXI?

But even the people that like it are criticizing it and acknowledging it's flaws, which I've rarely seen happened.

They even use the dreaded "It's not for everyone"

It's been sitting on my shelf for 6 months now. I've played it on and off since then but I just can't get into it for some reason. I've been at the point where you've got to rescue Nia for about 3 months with very little drive to keep going. It doesn't help that the dub is pretty bad (although I admit it was sometimes "so bad it's good"), but since most of the characters names got (((localised))) playing with the original audio is jarring since what you see and what you hear is completely different. Should I keep going Yea Forums? This thread seems to indicate it gets better after awhile but I'm still a bit hesitant to waste my time on something I won't enjoy

Its gets better but not by that much

When was there a stealth section in DQXI?
There was that brief part at the beginning where you escape from prison, but I wouldn't call that a stealth section because it was basically "Go to X, but with these paths blocked off"

almost as if the people who say shit like "it's the best game ever made and you're an sjw roastie cuck if you disagree" actually want you to hate it and are trying to bait you into doing so

but no one on Yea Forums would be that petty, right

>which I've rarely seen happened.
What do you gain from just outright lying about this?

Watch the game on Youtube, is pretty much a movie, the gameplay is horrible specially the gatcha RNG side.

Late in the game like Chapter 9-ish there was this hanger leading to a bridge where a rare spawn mech spawns between two already troublesome large mech enemies right in front of the bridge; it definitely felt like the game wanted you to stealth that bit or grind endlessly until you could beat all three cuz taking them down one at a time did not feel like an option. Maybe I did it wrong.

you're really reaching here, you said Yea Forums hates the game when most of the threads likes the game and have now moved the goalposts to people merely criticizing parts of the game.

Ah yes, so all the brainless waifuscum that spam off-topic porn threads are just doing it ironically.

Also, even single person that picked the "We should have daily threads" option of the strawpoll totally don't want to spam them with the same off-topic waifufaggotry.

I took them on but it took me a couple of tries. Wasn’t even overlevelled.

it gets better, but if you don't enjoy it don't force yourself to keep playing, as other anons have said it's not a game for everyone.

I took them on one by one, you can do so if you position yourself properly.

>Preferably without any spoilers if you can manage it.
>Posts Pneuma

If it's the room I'm thinking of then taking them down individually is easy, they're not close enough together to all aggro at once unless you get knocked towards one of the others.

It's a really iffy recommendation from me
I personally really like it but I recognize that a lot of its flaws in presentation can be dealbreakers for a lot of people.
I'd say, if you really want to try it, wait for a sale or get a voucher and then clear a weekend.
In terms of general appeal, Tropical Freeze is a much safer buy

Well, I cheesed it with some vague kind of stealth method. I was being facetious with my earlier claim then, my apologies.

But it on sale.

Its a mediocre JRPG and an embarassing Xenoblade game. You'll notice that most threads about the game are just waifu threads and that is everything you need to know.
The only way it could even considered good is either if you're really into Tales Of and the generic Tales Of weeb shit, or if you're just into generic JRPGs.

Its rated 82/100 for a reason

>Shulk, Fiora, T-Elos are end-game content
>Grins your ass off for costumes
> Gacha-shit mechanics

The game does a lot right but it's full of frustrating designs.

>Mediocre
>82

Fuck off.

I feel like avoiding spoilers in this game is pretty difficult simply because it's so damn long. Chances are, at some point or other the game introduces a mechanic you'd like to have a long term plan for (like for instance anything that relates to core crystals), and you wanna know if there are any pitfalls to avoid, and then poof, someone mentions that one thing or other that doesn't happen until 40-60 hours of gameplay later that has a drastic impact on this one mechanic. I'm not even talking about a specific thing with this, it's happened to me several times now with this game.

anything less than 75 on metacrtic might as well say irredeemable shit on it from the perspective of the journalists

>caring about the story of this shit game
lol based klaus from xenoblade 1 is the architect haha epic! none of the bad guys are actually bad rofl!

xb's staple is being filled with time sink mechanics. i cheated the discovery levels in x just because thats some bullshit

The biggest thing is that while from the game world, Rex is a nobody with nothing special going on. Then in the opening act he gets thrown into a situation beyond his knowing, is given the keys to God's car, and becomes destined to change the world. Some of the comparisons are allegorical(I'll be a bit saucy and note that the game literally takes place in a parallel universe), but it definitely fits the mold.

what?

>he didn't enjoy exploring mira

If you like Xeno, you'll like it. Otherwise look up a couple videos on the gameplay because it fairly different.
The biggest gripe people have is the gacha, a majority of bitching outside of that is that one faggot who keeps reposting those two webms like they are the entire game.
If you more want something to play in small bursts, get Hyrule Warriors instead.

>Rex is a nobody with nothing special going on. Then in the opening act he gets thrown into a situation beyond his knowing, is given the keys to God's car, and becomes destined to change the world
You just described one of the most common plot set ups in fiction. Good job.

>The world, history, environments, music, character/villain dynamics and motivations, themes, etc create a massively different atmosphere from any anime from this decade
Imagine being this delusional, it's literally every shonen anime and JRPG ever made.

It has the naive young protag, tsundere bitch love intrest, an evil priest cliche, the dubious god, all the works, and you still claim it's somehow unique, and just like "The good old days of anime" you weren't even alive to see, just because you slurp up whatever crap the writer spews out about how he was inspired by his childhood anime.

The only thing worse than a boomer, is a zoomer pretending to be one.

This is Fei Fong Wong from the first Xeno game ever made. He will never appear in other games thank o the fact that Square Enix is holding him hostage. Say something nice about him.

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>If you like Xeno, you'll like it
I like Xeno, and thought it killed the series, don't lie to him.

Have you never seen a classic adventure anime or even adventure novel before? Random kid getting caught up with an important girl/weapon in a massive scale journey is hardly a thing that is exclusive to isekai. Rex’s character is also rooted in his upbringing which has a strong cultural place in the world, being the village that the hero of the old days founded. Also, Alrest is literally the same Earth from before the experiment.

i did but worrying about coming back to a specific spot that i might never visit again just to get that discovery was a shit mechanic

Why do Xenoblade 2 fans always compare their game to his?

you are retarded though

You barely addressed anything I mentioned. Seriously I can’t think of any 10s anime with all the stuff I mentioned like Xenoblade 2. Feel free to remind me which ones though.

Just because I don't have battered wife syndrome and convinced myself the mediocre game I spent 60 dollars on was somehow good after 75% being horrible experience doesn't mean I'm retarded.

Who the fuck said i was comparing?

Shulk, Fiona, KOS-MOS, TEL-OS and Elma literally appeared in Xenoblade 2 and all that was missing was the grand daddy of them all. The original badass himself.

>I like Xeno
>But this one killed the series because I said so
Uh huh, nice lack of reasoning, shitposter.

Literally all shonen anime is like XC2, shonen anime is completely unchanged to how it was back then, if you say classic anime is like XC2, then so is modern anime, you just grew up, or I would say, if you were an actual boomer and not a pretend one.

I said I thought it killed the series, that's the truth.
I like the series, and I thought it killed it, so saying he'd like it just because he's a fan is meaningless.

Why are you so pissed?

Wasn't saying you were, I was just cruious.

You still haven’t actually tackled the argument, user. Where are the 2010s anime with the world, history, environments, music, character/villain dynamics and motivations, themes, etc like Xenoblade 2?

You're still not giving any reasoning.
Don't bitch about my saying if you like Xeno you'll like 2 and that 2 "killed the series" if you're not going to actually formulate an argument as to why I am wrong.

It's hard to compare stuff like history, environments and music, because video games have a lot more room for that kind of thing, but as I said, most shonen anime in the 2010s are pretty similar to Xenoblade, shit like SAO, MHA, Black Clover, it's all the same shit.

I'm just saying don't claim he'll like it just because he likes Xeno, especially because of how many people like me exist in these threads, you can claim it's only shitposters, but if you do so, you're probably one of the same people sucking XC2's cock hard.

>especially because of how many people like me exist in these threads
So a whole three of you? Because I guarantee you more people like all three than people who like 1 and X but not 2.

>More people like
Okay? That doesn't mean people like don't exist.

Stop acting like you speak for the whole fanbase, kid.

>Stop acting like you speak for the whole fanbase, kid.
How about you do the same? Especially since you're still avoiding trying to explain why 2 supposedly "killed xeno".

So you have no argument? Because you didn’t even mention how those are the same as Xenoblade 2 in the aspects I mentioned. And you can’t just brush aside stuff as important as world, history, environments and music. Older anime did do good with those.

>>Grins your ass off for costumes
This kinda bugs me about the Challenge Mode. To get any of the costumes I had to grind my ass off on the same few challenges over and over again.

>How about you do the same?
Never implied it was anything but my case.

You're acting like no other opinions are allowed in your magical hugbox fanbase, if you want that kind of shit, go to ResetEra.

Good god, you don't have a reason do you?
But hey, keep attacking me over actually making an argument, you look super cool.

>Older anime did do good with those
Like?
Because older anime I've watched looked and sounded like complete ass, and the only thing they had going for them was the aesthetics.

I can't recall a single anime I've watched from that period that a good story, or visuals, they were like just dumb fun in a "turn your brain off" kind of way, they much more like western cartoons than they were today.

I'm not falling into your trap.
You literally want a hugbox with no outside opinions, I'm not gonna let you form an imaginary hivemind to gangrape me for my opinions, that's a ResetEra tactic.

It's the most embarrassing game made in the last 20 years. If you're over the age of 10, I doubt you would make it through the dialogue and "story".

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Why are you going off on a tangent? At least try to back up what you were saying initially.

This is the post to go with OP

You sound like a certain someone who was recently banned.

What is this boogieman shit? You come in and make a statement, but won't say why because you're literally delusional and think I'm going to waste my time samefagging to attack you even though you've been attacking me this entire time?
Fuck off, you cowardly shit.

>Why are you going off on a tangent?
I'm not? I'm just stating my honest opinion and am curious what anime you watched from that time that made you think the story and music were anything but 80s western cartoon tier.

>At least try to back up what you were saying initially
I'm not even that original guy, I just hate the "XC2 is just like muh old Japanese animes, they don't make him like that anymore!" meme

I know Pyra's VA had already come out and said the recording and dubbing for this thing was a total disaster, but I REALLY want to know more about it. This is a official first party Nintendo game and one of the best selling things on the platform, yet has cutscenes like this.

youtu.be/hxke7Op_bq8?t=4095

I kind of wish the japanese dub was a little more fully supported, like subtitles during battle or field actions, though that'd add to a already clusterfuck of a UI.

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And you sound like a paranoid faggot.

The expansion is far better than the main game because it actually had polish and there weren't any retarded mechanics put in for no reason.

get it on a sale.
let me put it to you this way, it had me glued to the screen for a week and a half and I made it to the final boss. I died to the boss twice and realized I would need to level my party. I have yet to play the game since and this was all on release.
Its a fun game, but for what ever reason the story sort of broke down at the end and I just couldnt bring myself to give enough of a shit to grind for an hour to beat the final boss.

I'm not attacking you, I was merely stating my opinion, and telling you not to claim he'd like it just because it's Xeno, when fans can, and have, called out it's glaring flaws(for good reason) and that pushing a narrative like that would do more harm than good and create an even worse divide.

It's great but the navigation and the wayfinding with the map is abysmally shit, never seen something like that before

The original comment was saying it is like a seasonal isekai anime, and then another said its like any other modern shounen anime but failed to back themselves up.

>I'm not attacking you
Yes, you are. And you are STILL avoiding the issue. Saying that "other fans have called out it's flaws" is a non-answer.

>Torna doesn't do any retarded shit with gameplay, has actual good characters, and a great first impression
>Gets no shitposting at all

Funny how that works.

>No retarded mechanics
>Final boss is locked behind sidequest completion
I personally didn't even mind it but it was definitely retarded, especially considering the other sidequest completion progress gate is only like an hour of gameplay before that.

>The original comment was saying it is like a seasonal isekai anime
Wasn't me.

>said its like any other modern shounen anime but failed to back themselves up
This was me, and I did, I gave you examples, and then you said those didn't count because they weren't as good as old anime, I asked you to explain what made old anime so much better to give me some examples of old shonen anime that were like XC2, but you never did.

Because Torna had incredibly dumbed down combat.
That why normies praised it and then immediately forgot about it.

>dumbed down villains, gameplay, and far worse restrictions
The polish wasn’t worth it

>there weren't any retarded mechanics put in for no reason
Community Level will forever prevent me from replaying that expansion ever again.

>and then you said those didn't count because they weren't as good as old anime
No, I said you failed to explain how those were like Xenoblade 2, and that you tried to brush aside some comparison aspects despite anime having done them well before. Then you went off on a tangent completely disregarding the argument at hand.

Probably one of my favourite games on the system, paid full price and didnt regret it.

alot of content, combat gets fun around mid game with new mechanics.

use the jap dub though, the english dub is one of the worst in gaming.

Okay then, let's start by looking at the lack of cosmetic armor changes outside of the DLC that came later on, the lack of bestiary, no aggro marks on enemies, fall damage coming back, the game taking forever to start up, the gacha, the fact the blade system killed all real weapons, and made every single character as un-unique as possible considering everyone can most blades, all of these issues weren't in the last two games.

Torna isn't terrible but it's painfully obvious that the original story they were trying to tell with it was pretty damn short, and all that extra padding to make it worth its price as a DLC hurt its narrative overall.
Don't even get me started on how the decision to sell it as a standalone game meant they couldn't spoil *too* much, or how little care seemed to have been put into making Torna consistent with the main game's version of the Aegis War.

Yeah, I'm sure easier combat would have made them ignore the cringey anime cliches.

>all of these issues weren't in the last two games.
>lack of bestiary
>fall damage
>the game taking forever to start up
Sounds like XB1 to me.

Okay, name a modern shonen anime you don't like, and I'll explain how it's rooted in the exact same shit that XC2 is.

Possibly the worst JRPG of all time and barely even qualifies as a game.
Hard skip unless you want to watch 30 hours of weeb cringe cutscenes in between button mash QTE "gameplay" sections

>Yeah, I'm sure easier combat would have made them ignore the cringey anime cliches.
It's funny because that's what happened with Torna.

How are you still dodging the argument? Just name the anime and how they are like Xenoblade 2 in the aspects I mentioned. Should be simple.

>lack of bestiary
Was there not in XC1? I remember there being one
>fall damage
Can be excused because they removed it in X, there was no reason to bring it back after acknowledging it was a mistake.
>the game taking forever to start up
Fiora dies like an hour in, XC2 doesn't have an OH SHIT moment like that until the halfway point.

It literally contains the same scene most of Yea Forums had a meltdown about.

The main game was simply to complex for casuals and normies, that's the only difference here.

There is a reason why people barely discuss Torna

Have you even watched any anime? Why are you so afraid to name some?
I named 3 modern anime, and so far, you haven't given me any hints you even like anime to begin with.

You're the one who first pushed this argument, so it's up to you to give me some examples.

If you're not, would Sword Art Online do?

>It literally contains the same scene most of Yea Forums had a meltdown about
Well, we all knew it was coming from day one, since it was referenced in the main game, it's easier to accept something when you know beforehand it's gonna be cringe.

There was less dumb anime bullshit in Torna.

Didn't she say that the voice director of the dub was the same dude who did the voices for the Ardanian troops?

>cosmetic
That's a nitpick and you know it. Yes it should have been in, but that ruins the game for nobody.
>lack of beastiary
Also sucks, but don't act like most people do more than glance at such a thing. Pretty sure the other games lack a good beastiary anyways.
>no aggro mark
What? You mean a sign of who has aggro? Because that is what the arcing line shit is for.
>game taking forever to start up
Literally every Xeno game is like this. And if you mean story, Rex nearly being murdered may not be as impactful as the Fiora thing, but it still goes off the rails, especially with how utterly mad Malos is.
>Blade system killed real weapons
Blade system was all but real weapons. You can upgrade the "weapon" itself with the cores.
>made each character less unique
I didn't realize every character had the same driver arts with a spear or axe or cannon or that every blade had the same blade arts.

>I remember there being one
Legit dementia.
>Can be excused because they removed it in X, there was no reason to bring it back after acknowledging it was a mistake.
X and 1/2 have different level design philosophies, designing a free-roam open world you can explore all of at any time doesn't require fall damage. Including fall damage in more linear, story-focused RPGs allows you to limit player exploration so they don't skip event/story flags. It also adds an extra layer of risk to exploration.

>X and 1/2 have different level design philosophies
There is also the fact that X is literally on an alien planet and the characters are literal robots.

Only retards actually believe that.
Torna was just as anime as the main game, normalfags just got mad about being too retarded for the maingame combat.

>That's a nitpick and you know it
Pretty much everyone praised the orginal blade for it, in this day and age, the fact a game went through that effort was pretty cool.
>Yes it should have been in, but that ruins the game for nobody
Yeah, it's only one issues, but with everything else, shit starts to pile up.
>Also sucks, but don't act like most people do more than glance at such a thing
What if you need to kill a certain monster, or get a certain drop?
>What? You mean a sign of who has aggro?
X had a noticeable mark above their heads, you'd know from far away, before a battle even begins, it's one of the great QoL changes that was noticebly absent from XC2 for no explainable reason.
>Rex nearly being murdered may not be as impactful as the Fiora thing, but it still goes off the rails
I guess, if he actually died and was replaced with the actual protag it would have been way more impactful
>Blade system was all but real weapons
Yeah, but all unique weapon design is out the window, when most party members can use them all.
>I didn't realize every character had the same driver arts with a spear or axe or cannon or that every blade had the same blade arts
That may be true, but the every blade having different blade arts is part of the exact issue I'm bringing up, each character is less unique when they can just mix and match to be useful, kinda like how in the new Fire Emblem, every character can use every weapon.

>There was less dumb anime bullshit in Torna.
Proportionally, it felt like it spent more time on unfunny anime humor than the main game, not more. It's even more egregious because this is a DLC that's supposed to focus on an incredibly traumatizing war that changed the world and shaped the lives of many of the characters in the main game, not "LOOK AT MYTHRA, SHE'S A GIRL BUT SHE CAN'T COOK!!!".
XB2 has the excuse of being a story about an immature kid in over his head travelling across the world in an attempt to find a legendary location. Having some goofy stuff isn't all that out of place, and the writers made the tone the game was aiming for clear from the start.
Torna is supposed to be about a group of adults in the final days of a brutal war, fighting against a very real and present threat capable of ending the world. Two continents have fallen and who knows how many people have died, and yet we're supposed to sit around and laugh at the funny anime titty girl (who by this point has already had a part in sinking one of those continents, but whoops the writers forgot about that). It's a fucking insult to the player's intelligence.

>story-focused RPGs allows you to limit player exploration so they don't skip event/story flags
That's what the roadblocks are for.

If someone runs off into an area with higher level enimes, that's his issue, he can always come back, it would be pretty hard to have major skips when the entire game is separated to into major chunks of land in a sky ocean.

>LOOK AT MYTHRA, SHE'S A GIRL BUT SHE CAN'T COOK!!!
Outside of this, and the sleeping thing, what else was there?

user will probably cite that one blade story dance bit next.

I like how it took their boogeyman saying Torna was less anime for the XC2 fanbase to admit their game was full of retarded 10 year-old humor.

That wasn't in Torna.

>still can't back up his statements and merely deflects back
Disappointing. I didn't push any argument, I was still reacting to the initial statements made about seasonal isekai which you went and supported on another level regarding shounen anime, which you failed to back up just like the first poster. Guess its my fault for expecting any better? Whatever.

Most of the slice of life stuff that took over Torna when it was meant to be how that user mentioned. Off the top off my head you had Mythra getting chewed out in quirky ways for her brashness, Haze competing for her masters attention, Mythra getting poked by Milton and made fun off for eating so much, Lora's doki doki scene, etc

>Ask for anime
>I give you anime
>Ask me to explain
>I agree but ask you to name some
>You refuse and say it's my job
>So I ask if one of precious mentions, SAO is alright and will gladly explain in detail why I chose it if it's okay with you
>You respond by saying I'm deflecting

Brain problems.

Also, technically One Piece and Naruto can count as modern shonen because they're all still around, also Dragon Ball Z is sorta still around, so add those to list of names I brought up before, but if those don't count, there's still MHA and Black Clover.

>precious
previous*

It's funny how two years later you are still crying and obsessing every single day.

You're the only obsessed one here, number 1 fan.

Oh god it's actually him. That explains a lot of the post ITT.

Good job admitting to ban evasion, cuck.

I never admitted to anything.

Why'd you call me paranoid when I was clearly correct? Stop ban evading.

>Why'd you call me paranoid when I was clearly correct?
Because you call any post critical of XC2 me.

because he's desperately trying to avoid being banned for ban evasion again.
But he's too retarded to do that

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If you want to say something to me, don't reply to someone else to indirectly say it like a coward.

This isn't your magical friendly hugbox where everyone comes together to defeat the big villain like some gay anime RP.

It's true. He keeps outing himself by autistically repeating the same "arguments" and buzzwords over and over to the point that he might as well put on a tripcode and it would barely make a difference. Dude has no self awareness, especially when he's the one who blogs about his gay bonding rituals with his brother.

Nobody was speaking to you, you little cuck.
Cry more about the cabal killing your sister in-law.

Exactly. he actually believes people can't spot him immediately.

Whatever happened to "I wait out my bans," kid?

I love how you guys always cry about my posts being off-topic, but I'm the only one talking about the game right now, you're crying about me and my brother and my personal life, while here discussing the game.
Proof I'm ban evading?

Are you mad about being called out for not actually having played a Xeno game?

You ban evaded multiple times in a single thread, that is a perma ban.
And you admitted it's you, you dumb cuck.

>No response for this
As I thought.

>but I'm the only one talking about the game right now
If by talking about the game you mean repeating the same posts in an effort to wage some war against a fanbase you are pathetically obsessed with then sure.

>You ban evaded multiple times in a single thread
When?

>repeating the same posts
Show me where in the thread I did this.

here
And multiple other times as well.

Nice try, Xcuck.

How do you know I got banned for that?
My posts were only deleted.

And then you suspiciously stopped posting.
Mods can't mass remove posts without a ban, by the way.

And good job admitting it was you spamming, funny how all of your cucked excuses were raped to death (like your sister in law) in that thread.

Almost every post you've made in this thread is a variation of previous ones in past threads simply made because of your obsession. You will never accept this yourself, but you very easy to spot.

There's been a bad storm where I live the past few days now.
I stopped posting because I literally couldn't, my internet went down.

arch.b4k.co/v/thread/474416157/#q474435449
>The only danger I have of being banned would come from Xander
After which your posts got nuked.

I think it's pretty safe to assume what happened.

>Almost every post you've made in this thread is a variation of previous ones in past threads
Highlight them, link them right now, I dare you.

arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/good boy's club/
Looks like you were shitposting just yesterday.

>2 year old game
>Wait for a sale
Console players are truly cucked.

In this case, I deleted them myself to give the illusion I was banned just to miss with you guys.

We know you posted yesterday, you dumb cuck.

This guy knows the mods?

My internet doesn't stay down in the storm, it comes and goes, in that thread yesterday, it went down in the middle of the thread, so I left to play the new Fire Emblem.

I’m enjoying it but it’s going to take me years because my usual routine is

>play switch game docked for a couple of hours
>retire to bed and play game in handheld mode

I can’t do this with XC2 because handheld mode for this game is eye cancer.

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>I was only pretending!!!!
LOL, you got cucked, ban evader.
It's that simple.

And nice how you pretended you never spammed, while being the only one who does.
how weird.
It's almost like you are the only spammer and tranny here

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I was, you're delusional and sound very obsessed right now.

>all these retarded excuses
>i was merely pretending to be banned
lmao does he actually expect anyone to believe him? Why bother?

samefag

>he says while being obsessed and still COPING over XC2
LOL

And why didn't you respond to the second part?
Because you're cucked?

In case you haven't noticed, he lies about literally everything.

Name an anime already so we can continue this on-topic discussion, stop hiding already and address my argument.

Nope, you're the only samefager here, Xcuck.
he only spammer and the only samefag, it's weird how you are the only one guilty of anything you accuse others of.

And still didn't reply to the second part.

I don't lie, I'm not my good for nothing father.

>only one person is capable of seeing how retarded I am
Cope

you're trying too hard

No one is going to have a serious discussion with a known ban evader. If you don't like it you could just leave, but we all know this thread is your "eternal womb."

It's not bad, just expected more, and some parts are tiresome

>isekai
Imagine being this wrong and imagine showing the world how wrong you are and how you never played the game. XC2 is *literally* the reverse of isekai. XC1 and XCX are technically isekais though.

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you sound fucking mental right now

Respond to
now
Do you want me to explain why SAO is just like Xenoblade 2?

Still didn't reply to it, Xcuck.

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I can somewhat understand XC2, but how the fuck is XC1 isekai?

Why are you shitposting?

>Xfag still can't confess to ban evasion
What's the point? He gets his ass banned every other day anyway.

As far as Klaus and Galea are concerned, they were thrown into a brand new world that's not Earth with special powers. The only difference with your regular isekai, is your MC with special powers has God Powers.

>but how the fuck is XC1 isekai
I assume he's talking about Zanza and Meyneth's point of view. It's sort of an isekai for them.

I never get banned, but okay.

That's not the MC though, and in X's case, the whole entire world goes to another planet.
Do you hate the first two games this bad that you stretch the truth like this?

Still didn't reply, XCuck.

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Prove it.

I was in that very thread and watched all of your posts get deleted at the exact same time. It is impossible to delete that many of your own posts at the same time.

strawpoll.com/8hfdh85d
Which one of the 11 are you?

Why is spamming okay if you do it, Xcuck?
Or is your brother's dick too far in your throat to answer?

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If that's the case, then maybe I did get banned and evaded unintentionally, My internet did go down the other day, and that likely changed my IP. if that was the case then I'll gladly accept a ban because I deserve it.

I can't.

>Do you hate the first two games this bad that you stretch the truth like this?
No, because I don't necessarily see isekai as bad, heck, fucking Alice in Wonderland is isekai already, and it's a masterpiece. As such, I don't care what XC1 and XCX aim for, I liked them enough. I wasn't the stupid fucktard calling XC2 an isekai when it literally isn't.

>i ban evaded on accident!
I'm speechless.

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>Why is spamming okay if you do it, Xcuck?
Wait a second, are you admitting you do spam?
That's kinda wild.

It's more like shit mobile game stuff

>Xcuck can't read
You literally said it was okay for you to spam before, what happened to that?

If that's what happened, yeah.
I have no way of knowing, but that's the only possible explanation, my posts are usually deleted anyway and I don't get banned, just warned.

You're the one using buzzwords and outdated memes to try to win an argument, if that's not spamming I don't know what is.

Xcuck still evading the question and his ban
Why can't you simply answer?
Does it hurt too much to admit you're the only spammer these threads ever had?

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What a bunch of fucking losers you all are lmao get a life mates

>I have no way of knowing
Really? Because this post suggests you do know what happened, and who did it, by name even.
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/474416157/#474434114

I don't even know the question, you just called me a cuck and a tranny or something.

That was when I was faking a ban to try and make Xander into my new boogeyman.
It didn't catch on.

see

If you've played 1 it's worth it. Definitely worth if if you'd played the other Xeno games

World design aesthetically is 10/10
Music is 11/10
Everything else about it is 5/10

So you were lying.

>all those deleted posts
Holy fuck

Why does everyone jack this game off? It looks like a PS2 game. In the beginning cutscene when Rex is “eating” a crab leg, he’s biting air. No excuse for an AAA first party game.

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>Xcuck got banned again
Never stops being funny

>Why does everyone jack this game off?
Who? Even on Yea Forums it is clearly divisive.

That guy is definitely a massive autist

Did he make over half the fucking posts in this thread? Did he "pretend" to delete about 150 posts again?

Xenoblade is not a AAA franchise by any means, and XB2 is no different. The games are lucky to make it to 1 million sold.

Mods probably deleted some other people replying to him as well.

Great. They deserve it for taking the bait.

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For one, you don't remember what PS2 games look like. For another, this is not even remotely AAA.

A shit ton of them were indeed his, but you could just tell from his repeated retarded arguments and general posting style. I still don't get why he keeps denying everything when he gets exposed hard like this.

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lmao
>Monolith Soft
>AAA
This series runs on instant ramen.

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Holy shit this thread lost like half it's posts.

>No excuse for an AAA first party game.
Good thing it isn't that then.

He will pretend this was all him deleting it at once as well.

What should one do before going into NG+?

>half the posts deleted
what the fuck, get a girlfriend

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>Raise baby Armu to level 99
>Finish Ursula's quest if you started it already
>Play Torna

Mods, just know you're based sometimes.

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Finish any Blade quests that you've made decent progress in and don't want to do over again. Ursula's quest is usually the one people highlight here.

>Nobody plays this game to rush through the story, user.
I did. I had to force myself to do sidequests most of the time since I was pretty much interested in how the main story would turn out. You'll have plenty of time do roll for blades after the story is over and should probably do that anyways unless you want to kill yourself.

xc2 is only isekai if you consider Klaus to be the main fucking character.

Not even. Klaus is just Klaus. He originated from Earth, and stays on (over) Earth all along. Nothing is isekai in XC2 as nobody leaves good old Earth.

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Finish feeding the Armu then kill it. Finish any long-running quests you have. Finish buying all the shop deeds.

Not even then. XC2's world is a post apocalyptic Earth, Klaus never went anywhere.

If anything, XC2 is Planet of the Apes, while Isekais are Alice in Wonderland.

Is the cringiest shit I ever played

>Nothing is isekai in XC2 as nobody leaves good old Earth.
Shulk, Fiora and Elma all technically get isekai'd to Alrest. But that's all noncanon side content anyways.

Also get 99 cores of each type, that way you can start rolling the Torna Blades right away

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my take on xc2
i hate most jrpgs because they waste your time and tell a shitty disjointed story.
xc2 doesn't really waste your time (other than one chapter of 10) and tells a tight, interesting story that fully resolves itself without any bullshit questions
the battle system is perfectly acceptable, it's just that enemies don't force you to change tactics so you do the same thing to almost every enemy
the gatcha system was bullshit, and so was the sending groups out on missions.
but overall it's a charming game, one of the best jrpgs i've played.

If anything XBC1 is the isekai and that's really fucking stretching it.

While XCX was literally STUCK ON ANOTHER PLANET and I quite liked it

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No its a forgettable no name experience that is only relevant because of smash and switch having no games. Pretty weak for a franchise.

Rough diamond. Well worth it.

wut, XC2 is one of my favorite games but it wastes your time a good amount, primarily in the first half with chapter 2/4 and the bana shit in 6