Want to make game

duality of man strikes again.
be social. find a friend. you learn to work together on projects, not to dream up a mindless scenario where you make a whole game yourself. making a "game" is inherently a group effort.

for me, art is getting simpler every day. it's all a matter of who you talk to.

>programming is the easy part
lel fuck you my man i wish i knew how to program instead of art

Undertale's art was made by multiple people, dude. And that's fucking undertale. the pixel art is nothing to call home over.

wish i had more time

BUT HOW THE FUCK DO I DO THE PROGRAMING WHERE DO I BEGIN WHERE DOES IT START WHERE DOES IT END WHAT IS EVEN THE LANGUEGE DOES ENGINES INVOLVE THIS SHIT WHAT THE FUCK INFO TECH DIDDNT TEACH ME THIS BULLSHIT

There you go OP
Just have these guys do the art
This guy can do the music

Ill help for free

Okay. I want to make a game - think like minecraft except for furries.

I already have the logo and social media accounts set up. I'm going to start programming the game tomorrow. Are you in?

But we all have different ideas for a game

> can do art
> can do programming
> lost all the motivation I had in my early 20s

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>learn about dijkstra pathfinding
>try to find examples and tutorials of it
>fucking nothing cause the only ones who use it are a few roguelike devs
>they never bother making tutorials of it since they too busy writing up bloat mechanics

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just make a mod for minecraft then?

>want to make game
>can't do anything
>thankfully i am hideo kojima

Unity uses C#
Gamemaker uses the piss easy GML, easy to learn but proprietary so kinda useless outside gamemaker

>tfw can do it all

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>want to make a game
>western artists are 0 imagination talentless hacks that just draw shit from reality and put a filter over it
>charge hideous money for their "work"
>no longer want to make a game

>Try to make game
>Five thousand lines of vulkan boilerplate later, have selection, model rendering, and basic camera movement
>Sick of boilerplate
>Move to babby mode opengl prototyping library
>Get most stuff going in a few days
>Try to do something that the prototyping library doesnt support natively
>Fuck
>Opengl
>Back to writing thousands of lines of boilerplate vulkan
Fuck man why is this so miserable

do all of the official unity tutorials then pirate the udemy unity videos

Look up analysis paralysis and the pottery metaphor. Then you shall know what you must do.

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Art is also the easiest thing to hire out for. There's way more artists willing to work for peanuts than there are competent programmers willing to waste time on a game.

talentless western hack here, please name some good artists

>childhood bro doesn't want to make game anymore

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makita aoi

I have no money

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>Pretty talented full stack developer wage slaving for a large soulless company
>Want to develop my own service and start a business but have zero ideas or knowhow of how a business works
>Most of my buddies from college who had business degrees have pretty successful startups and some don't even have to work anymore because they got bough out for millions while I'm just a code monkey
YOU TOLD ME TO GO FOR STEM Yea Forums. WHY DID I LISTEN TO YOU?

Pay them with exposure.

If you're such a good programmer then find jobs doing that to pay artists.

nvm count me out

>programming is the easy part
Are you fucking kidding me? I can't even look at gamemaker without getting overwhelmed
It fucking hurts being technologically illiterate.

kek
Yeah my game being flung onto itchio is gonna help them

>talented
>can't develop your own ideal
um sweetums your not talented at all your lazy

>PROGRAMMING IS THE EASY PART
>just build a fully working physics engine bro

Wow that's the pinnacle of art for sure.

any games youve made?

>want to work on my game
>have to finish uni stuff

Minecraft for furries.
Can you try and sell me a little better than that?

This
as a drawfag the job is the life
just go to /agdg/ and make the next va11-ha11a

Don't forget CaveStory

Just use "programmer art" that's crude but gets the job done. Once you have a proof of concept, find an artist.

Use a free library.

SHUT THE FUCK UP. I HAVE TO SHOW UP AT WORK AT 6 AM AND LEAVE AT 5 PM. I'M NOT LAZY AT ALL YOU RETARD. HOW LONG DO YOU WORK FOR?

its on kickstarter right now
its gonna fail but i got around 100$ so far

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is gamemaker even a good engine tho? imean i dont mean to be nitpicky or come off as ungrateful but last i saw gamemaker in use was a crappy slow doom clone horror game.

Cave story took 5 years on and off with people from his academy helping Pixel out

Youre a genius m8
Maybe im too stupid for this

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>listening to Yea Forums for career options

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Hotline Miami is made in Game maker
So is Nuclear Throne
And Undertale
Its a good engine for relatively simple 2D games

risk of rain and i think undertale were made with game maker and the respective devs are millionaires now, risk of rain 2 was unity though

the engine doesn't really define the game you make but the limitations you work within

When my game comes out, it’s going to be a hit. Stay tuned...

is it gta with furries?

Nothing matters but how well you shill.

If you're anything like me, your problem is that you want everything to come out perfectly first try.
You have to get over that and just get the work done. You will fuck up, you will make things that are far below your ideal vision, but you'll make progress.

Want me to give you the fucking redpill on becoming a good artist?

Cheat as much as you possibly can get away with.

Be lazy, use shortcuts, do not waste time on shit that brings small result. If it looks good it LOOKS GOOD. Things such as tracing can be super useful to help you learn how to draw better, just as long as you watch out for bad habits that might hurt you down the line. Art is just an illusion, use whatever trick you can to make that illusion better.

Sure, learning to draw is mostly practice. But there is so many dumb tricks you can use to get better results.

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hard shilling will still fail if you make a game that doesn't suit the audience. undertale would have failed miserably if it wasn't piggy backing on the homestuck fanbase, or its own music

dont give away the secrets

Undertale has a combat system thats interesting enough
Too bad it was only really utilized twice

>make a huge awful mess
>just looking at it drains all motivation
>give up

>tons of programming help, free resources and free code you can use without even giving credit
>dumb artists barely make free anything and even have multiple communities that compile others asking for free art to shame them
Why are artists so greedy? It's expected to have multiple projects up on github or somewhere if you want to be taken seriously as a programmer.

This. I found out it was easier to just steal someone else’s model and edit the limbs a bit for my models.

Seems like a lot of people struggling to stick with an idea and see it through. How about this idea: Yea ForumsICR - Yea Forums Indie Consortium Royale. At the start everyone who wants to 'play' puts in their game ideas and either gets feedback or teams up with others to do a specific idea. This could go more the route of a game jam where ideas are randomly picked and each team has a week to complete their game. Or each person/team has to create the same game (say a breakout clone) in the specified timeframe. If you fail, you're out of the consortium. Just spitballing, but is anyone interested in something like this?

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I can and have worked on games. IF anyone making a cool game or whatever give contacts ya fags, I wanna do something cool

Because artists don’t make money. They need to act like jews or they’ll get fucked over.

Artists are subhuman. It's the duty of every righteous man to cheat and trick them at every opportunity.

Have any links to your art/work?

Sign me up, Yea Forums would actually be about video games in making them for once.

Just read up on it from a good source such as Introduction to Algorithms by Cormen. Try out BFS and DFS first though and you'll understand shortest path algorithms better, most of the classical stuff is built on them (Bellman-Ford, A*, Dijkstra, etc.)

a game jam is much easier than putting ideas down, just doing it and working in a random to make something in a short amount of time is the way to go.
You'll learn loads from doing it.

something like this already exists newfags

Make the art for my game user we'll make game babies

I'm not going to /vg/. You can't make me.

Not a bad idea
Doubt this would take off though
Best thing of note this board ever made semi recently was that Dont Hug Me Im Scared dub

Outside of a dedicated few, artists can't program and programmers can't art. It's always been this way. The two require completely different mindsets. Even if someone can do both, one will come easier and the other harder.

>just make your games look like shit
Good advice

So how do I draw? Give me a step by step. Hold my hand through the process. I need structure and unironically wish I had an ideas guy friend to order me around and give me projects.

Link it.

at least it's done and not just in idea phase

>want to make game
>at best I can putz around in blender and make """low poly""" landscapes
>could probably follow some basic unity tutorials to make a walking sim/exploration game
>have no idea how to in2 sound design or texturing so all I have is untextured grey blobs (because honestly, most of the quality in low poly comes from the textures) and a text file full of jotted notes
>have other actual work that sucks away my spare time too
I need someone to beat me with a stick until I finish something passable.

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>waaah i cant do art which means there is absolutely no way to work on my game!
you're just a lazy fuck whos using a shitty excuse to not make a game. literally just flip assets or make your own shitty sprites.
Art should not even come close to being an obstacle when programming until you're really far into the project

LETS MAKE THE NU-BLIZZARD YOU FAGS.
NO DIVERSITY QUOTAS,
NO PUBLISHER CHOKING THE CREATIVITY.
PURE AUTISTIC MERITOCRACY. WHO WILL TAKE THE FIRST STEP???

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I'M STIIIIIIIIIIILL
IN A DREAAAAAAM
STICK BEATERRRRRRR

NONE OF THAT $60 MULTIPLAYER ONLY BULLSHIT

Read Loomis and practice every day.

/agdg/ is a circlejerk just like this about how hard it is to get motivated. That plus everyone shilling their game to 10 other people who don't care

Good, I'm willing to set this up. Is there a good alternative to discord because I'd rather not use it

>Stardew Valley
>Tetris
>shit
Gain taste

Thanks user, you gave me a genuine smile

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This.
Art is a luxury and only matters in the final stretch unless you're working with a team and can afford dedicating someone's time away from the meat of the game.

it would take so freaking long because im kinda bad at art user. is that a lyability to your game?

Practice what though.

You could always use irc.

Good alt to discord?
We could go back to Skype :^)

they really aren't a circle jerk
your pretty much doomed to fail and spend more time setting up this then making a game

I know an artist that looks for a job, got a diacord man?

To be fair I didn't see Stardew Valley. I have some mad respect for ConcernedApe.
Tetris however is not a pretty game.

For REAL THO. IF we organize our collective autistic power could make the best game ever in existance. Games nowadays are garbage and focused on squeezing the moost money anyway. Now some of you homos actually like DMC5 over DMC3 which means there is a lot of loser idiots who dont know shit around here, but still there is plenty of great AUTISTIC POTENTIAL.

I hear TeamSpeak or Mumble are good

>Practice what though.
I don't know man, I'm not an artist.

>fumbles around in a discord for two days and everyone bails

Youd need someone to more or less make the initial framework for it to happen
Games take a long time to make and use every artistic medium humans have ever made so its a lot of parts that have to fit together

Pls no.

needs good leadership and clear goals

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>IF we organize our collective autistic power could make the best game ever in existance.
No we can't, that's now how a good game is made. Yea Forums is too diverse in taste for any conglomeration of autists to finish a game let alone give it a cohesive narrative, setting, gameplay and balance.
Do you really want to have to break up the fights between the dexfags trying to buff their katanas because strchads were fucking them up in pvp while some furry keeps adding his romancable self insert OC back into the code base each update build?

Get a bunch of virgins in a discord or whatever (NO ANIME AVATARS) and see if there is enough interest and skills to pull something off, cant hurt too much.

We could always just kick the furries out

>expecting anything from a group that can't even produce new memes anymore

I'll do it tomorrow™

You think we haven't all tried this already?

which crypto-fag is gonna pay our wages?

>NO ANIME AVATARS
Enjoy having shit tier programmers.

Keep throwing shit at the bank vault door and eventually we'll break through to the gold beyond at

Alright, here we go. Presenting the Yea Forums Indie Consortium: discord.gg/hQerv47.

I-it was all just a meem, man. I-I don't w-wanna talk to ppl or m-make anything

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invalid lmao

He put a dot in the end cuz he is retarded

Isn't this how Skullgirls got made?

Perish, discordqueer

And a few others, join the disco

omega lul
the diffrence is that one was good with art. im just shit with it but its all i got

>Be me
>Want to make Game
>Still too much of a noob to program, so I functionally can't
>Still too much of a noob to CGI, so I functionally can't
>Can't into good drawing
>Can't into music
You don't know true hell

Didn't want to but it's most convenient.

We got Artists, Music people. Need coders. Join in!

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you have my sympathies my dude.

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Art is fucking simple dude, you don't need to be an artist to make a good looking game, and with the right tools you can just push and pull things together until you get something you like. Plus there's so many workarounds such as looking at what other people made and just emulating that, cobbling together a new type of visuals like Dead Cells, or just outright making your game look like shit and having people praise it for being unique like Sword and Sorcery.

Now music, that's what the hardest part is, and music can make or break an indie game. Pretty much every single popular indie game in the last 10 years relied on its music for memorability, and that's not something you can just emulate by playing with programs. Hiring a composer doesn't fix the issue because the game stops being your brainchild, and it loses its "one man's dream" soul appeal. Eric Barone was a musician turned dev/artist, and Stardew Valley has a 10/10 soundtrack as a result, that props up the rest of the game.

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>dead already
Fuck, if only we had an ideas guy.

I'm a very original guy.
Make it a game about being a German channer who fucks underage girls and fights the prime evil that is adult women.

Isn't that just unulterbach or whatever it's called?

That's the joke.

I really want to make an FTL-like game with a UAB-like loli story.

It would fit perfectly.

You're gonna have to explain further on that one.

FTL gameplay
Bernd transported magically to space and now has to pilot ship.
Mix in dialogue and different alien girls you can pick up and different events along the way with drawn sex scenes.
Unlock different girls/storylines with each successful run.
Final boss is the feminist federation mothership
Boom.

>only 7 members so far
lmao call me when it gets to 20

I just can't see it working well with loli crewmates, but I guess it's not impossible.

Discord looking pretty solid so far. Currently have 2 teams each working on a clone of mario 1-1, but with variations. Join if you'd like to form a new team or join an existing one. This is the trial run so after this we'll be moving on to more projects

The fewer people the more bearable it will be, not the other way around.

Wrong attitude to have. In any situation that involves being challenged.

eh, fair enough. let me know when this Consortium releases "Minecraft for Furries: FTL gameplay edition".

>mindsets
Are you of the retarded mindset? That's not how brains work.

You're clearly not looking hard enough, /ic/ constantly has a thread about free artbook resources from not only the essentials to a growing list of whatever specific shit you're after. I've even gotten paint tool sai for free from there before. As for figuring out how to use whatever painting program you got, ive seen plenty of tutorials on youtube to help you understand specific tools and even how-tos on drawing specific subjects (gold, saliva, getting that glowing effect look, etc).

So really, I don't get you. What exactly are you not finding?

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>want to make game
>can't into programming
>bad at art
>can't make music
>only good at business
F

Those things you get for free are illegally obtained. The same cannot be said about the source code of game engines or other projects.

The original post wasn't specifying legal means(only /ic/ was the illegal part), just free resources for learning.

>tracing
If you can't even pull consistent lines (like most people can't) or have a sense for color, texture, line weight and edge hardness (like most people don't) then it's gonna be fucking obvious and it'll still look horrible.

This.

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Join the discord if you want to practice any of those. Don't have a need for the business side right now but maybe down the line

I feel its worth expanding on tracing, its a fantastic way for beginners/intermediates to figure out why they aren't getting whatever it is they're trying to draw, but its a horrible tool to use outside of personal practice, all it takes is one connection to ruin your reputation and all your effort.

>>Programming is simple m8
>>Even if you dont know how to do something just look it up

>want to make a game with vulkan
>all the tutorials are garbage
>the api documentation is a mess
>give up in the end
>"just google it bro!"

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>want to make a game with vulkan
Why? Also just use GLFW or something.

This is like trying to argue that pushing a shopping cart is difficult because you can't fly a plane.

What are you doing screwing around with vulkan if you don't have a grasp of traditional graphics libraries/ GPU programming.

I can do art and I also ERP, we can create the best hentai game e ver desu

>Wanted to make a death game VN for a while
>Can write and art but programming is shite
>Not sure if I should use RPGMaker because I have lots of experience with it or Ren'py for that true VN experience
>Would have to get MV if I want touch controls though and learn it anyway because the language is different from VXA and I'm afraid of not being able to pull the same bullshit

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>wasted my life on the internet instead of learning any skills like drawing, programming, or how to speak another language

You just have try it user, everything is daunting the first time.

The second best time is now user, go learn some shit.

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Join the discord negi. You'll figure out how you can help out with our Bloodborne Mario or whatever

>negi
Did you mean this as in negative?

just use unity or unreal lel. Enginedevving is a never-ending rabbit hole.

nice but where are the trannies

hiding, waiting for the right moment to strike

>want to make music
>too lazy to finish anything + creatively sterile

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Then why is there dozens and dozens of failed games kickstarted or otherwise by artists that can't even script a VN in Ren'Py without failing?
Meanwhile, the games with the ugliest art assets but interestingly designed gameplay have the most amounts of soul.

Iconoclasts

Mount and Blade

Team apple

>omega lul
Three hours late but go fuck yourself