>Persona 5 sold over 2.5 million >Xenoblade Chronicles 2 sold 1.8 million >Fire Emblem Three Houses is poised to be the best selling game of the franchise >Final Fantasy XV is the fastest selling game of the franchise >XIV is the most successful MMORPG currently >Nier Automata sold 4 million and it's the most successful New IP this gen >Octopath probably has sold over 2 million >Breath of the Wild is the best selling game of the franchise >Tales of games are selling well too >Ni no Kuni II did amazing as well >Kingdom Hearts 3 is the best selling game of the franchise
Why are JRPG and or anime games having so much success?
>And for you question op it’s because anime is more mainstream then it’s ever been I don't know if this is true or not. 1999-2002 anime was fucking huge.
Jose White
>1999-2002 dont talk about better times user pls it makes me sad
They never stopped being successful. There was a short period during the PS3 generation I guess but even then there were a lot of successful JRPGs holding it down on handhelds.
Joseph Phillips
>Nier Automata sold 4 million and it's the most successful New IP this gen >new IP
Jace King
>tfw you unironically feel nostalgic for blink-182 when you remember actively hating on them back then Wtf happened bros m.youtube.com/watch?v=vVy9Lgpg1m8
Because the west only produce pozzed shit full of Mtx and devs think of you as paypigs. Meanwhile you get real,honest and feature complete games in the east. Also people are tired of shooters.
>H-hey atlus is p5 milking done yet? "p5 milking" barely even exists compared to the shilling that 3 and 4 have received.
Levi Price
hey ranger can i please die soon?
Blake Hill
You fell behind
Chase Martinez
Because as quality and complexity goes down more monglets can appreciate it, and the marketing increase until you're left with nothing but a hyper popular soulless pile of shit for NPCs.
Cooper Sullivan
This. Atlus basically makes a Persona game, then gives the licence away to literally any studio that has any idea of something to do with it, then comes back a few years later with two or three remakes. There's been dozens of P3 and P4 games of all genres.
Easton Diaz
Honestly I think it's because Japs still remember that games are supposed to be fun, not a vehicle to push an agenda. I don't even like the anime aesthetic but I still play the games because honestly Western stuff is just shit.
Nathaniel Phillips
E.D.F! E.D.F!
Angel Long
build a time machine user and take us back
Lucas Hernandez
>persona automata is most succesful new ip this gen What? Horizon Zero Dawn surpassed 10mil
Carter Cox
The bitch on the right has zero thigh gap lmfao
Isaac Collins
>Nier Automata sold 4 million and it's the most successful New IP this gen Congrats on being the biggest dumbass on Yea Forums. It isn't even the first Nier game. Not to mention the fact the series is a spinoff based on the worst ending of Drakengard 1.
Bentley Harris
Ranger will I get laid soon?
Ian Gomez
>Nier Automata sold 4 million and it's the most successful New IP this gen Since when are sequels new ips? For fuck's sake there are references galore to the first game.
Cooper Sullivan
>>Kingdom Hearts 3 is the best selling game of the franchise It was also the best selling game of the year until MK11 IIRC. It even outsold RE2.
Ethan Gonzalez
>salesfags >fatefags heh
Ryan Wood
>H-hey atlus is p5 milking done yet? You know P4 was a PS2 game right? You saw how long they milked that for.
Landon Butler
Im sorry
Nathaniel Sullivan
Dont say stupid things
Easton Peterson
Can I get laid on my terms for once in my life?
Alexander Garcia
Should I eat this fucking tasty ass burrito?
Thomas Brooks
Is life worth living ranger?
Jeremiah Allen
Thats impossible
Xavier Fisher
SO ITS BALAM TIME RIGHT?
Nolan Hughes
>You know P4 was a PS2 game right? You saw how long they milked that for. To be fair, it was a very late ps2 game.
Easton Williams
Global population is still skyrocketing and internet is becoming cheaper and easier to get anywhere. Eventually there will be no niche games anymore. There will just be too many people using the internet to enjoy anything for long. Yea Forums is a perfect example of this, most of the good posters moved on and shitty young people moved in to replace them.
Will I be able to improve my life beofre I turn 25 EDF-kun?
Jason Gomez
More like why are PS4 JRPGs having a lot of success
Parker Campbell
will i get fully healed?
Gavin Foster
If you are being genuine it's simple... A lot of japanese companies work with a top down/word of god corporate structure. IP's are typically either pet projects of the permanent elite at the top or they are handed to the elite on roulette.
What this effectively means is... All the blame can be focused on one creative head. But likewise most IP's from japan have creative leads and thus they are often passion projects for these leads.
The IPs that don't do this... Like for example sonic the hedgehog. Remain inconsistent between every release and constantly shift focus due to the lack of a creative head.
Western games are this amplified, they are creative cesspits either due to office politics and power games or because they are design by statistics and marketing.
You want a good game, you need someone heading it who cares about its lore, world, internal consistency, characters and gameplay. Western games tend to prioritize one of these things and let the rest be handled by metrics.
Small devs and indie games have a good rap in the west because they buck that trend.
Matthew Taylor
>real,honest and feature complete games remember FFXV?
Mason Perez
Yeah, and we got P5 at the tail end of the 7th gen, when with gen was already out. Keep in mind that 8th gen also lasted a fucking century. The PS3 and 36p came out early 1900s bro.
Ayden Sullivan
why don't girls wear skirt + thigh highs anymore?
Brody Johnson
Its cold outside
Mason Ward
based ranger
Jason Sanchez
The western industry is currently fucked off by being over highly influenced by suits and micro-transactions, profiteering, poor attempts at balancing and input from the worst people to listen to, esports, and the fact all of these things and or a combination of various aspects of them leads the core audience to not care and not purchase or to blindly buy and give no construction input.
Nicholas Phillips
Came out way the fuck more complete than andromeda ever did
Camden Collins
Remember what I told you yesterday?
Nathan Perez
Eastern gaming went through a shitty phase and powered out western gaming went through a shitty phase and came out splintered, comprised of agendas and politics
Charles Moore
but global warming n shit
Kevin White
will i ever
Nathaniel Roberts
All these games have good looking female character as well as good stories. Also, they are fun and there no politics.
Matthew Rivera
Unironically it's because anime is much more mainstream these days and isn't seen as pure cringe. Netflix, Crunchy and Funimation and whatever TV networks that air it have exposed it to far more people. Also movies like Your Name. All these normie tier films that get really popular make it easier for people to accept anime themed shit like games.
I assume their companies are less infested by retarded suits who have never even played a video game.
Xavier Young
Welcome to the mindset of automata babyboys. 2B's ass xD
Dominic Robinson
It's because of our declining intelligence and morals
Jason Hill
The real question is why are you pretending weeb shit doing less the half the sales of western games is a success? Half that crap is on par with the likes of Wolfenstein 2, a game Yea Forums routinely calls an abysmal failure as far as sales are concerned.
Jackson Evans
Do i get to fuck any fictional girl of my choice?
Bentley Kelly
Soon you niggers are going to say you're nostalgic for Justin Beiber
No it isn't Watch Dogs sold 11 millions and Horizon Zero Dawn sold 10 millions.
Leo Walker
Because WRPGs sucks now besides Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn there isn't a single worthwhile WRPG this generation.
Hudson Murphy
>Why are JRPG and or anime games having so much success Because people enjoy beauty?
Blake Nelson
Will i do it this year ?
Jeremiah Peterson
Will I find gf that likes either vidya, anime, photography or plastic models?
Christopher Brown
Nice Yukiko cosplay
Robert Wright
you have the option of beautiful games with vibrant characters and great music or ugly games with characters intentionally designed to be ugly to appeal to western audiences? and generally bad music, there are exceptions but its rare for a western rpg to have good music
Aiden Hall
too much to ask of thots. She couldn't even be bothered to tuck her shirt in.
Austin Gray
Apocalypse soon?
Camden Thomas
>Kingdom Hearts 3 is the best selling game of the franchise
I was 7 in 1999, but, I don't think it was as big back then as it is now. Today you have normies watching shows like Attack on Titan and One Punch Man, absolute normies who typically don't consume any Japanese media at all. I don't think there was anything comparable back in 1999.
>>Persona 5 sold over 2.5 million >>Xenoblade Chronicles 2 sold 1.8 million >>Fire Emblem Three Houses is poised to be the best selling game of the franchise >>Final Fantasy XV is the fastest selling game of the franchise >>XIV is the most successful MMORPG currently >>Nier Automata sold 4 million and it's the most successful New IP this gen >>Octopath probably has sold over 2 million >>Breath of the Wild is the best selling game of the franchise >>Tales of games are selling well too >>Ni no Kuni II did amazing as well >>Kingdom Hearts 3 is the best selling game of the franchise >Why are JRPG and or anime games having so much success?
Skyrim sold more than all those games combined.
Jordan Morales
>JRPG released in 2017 >WRPG released in 1998
why not use modern wrpgs?
oh right there aren't any because your genres dead like rts lmao
>XB2 >regarded by JRPG fans as one of the greatest games ever made stopped reading there. its literally the worst received blade game to date and its only talked about due to waifus what kind of delusional and butthurt fanboy do you actually have to be to do that?
Caleb Thompson
>stopped reading there. Have you actually browsed Yea Forums for any decent amount of time? XB2 is constantly praised and talked about as one of the greatest jrpgs ever made.
Jaxon Hughes
>modern >2014
Gabriel Diaz
>Why are JRPG and or anime games having so much success? people are becoming increasingly isolated, uneducated, and depressed
Robert Foster
JRPGs were always somewhat popular, even outside of weeaboo culture. Now though anime is more mainstream than ever and that obviously has played a role.
I doubt anime is as popular as it was during the time of DBZ and Saint Seiya, then later Naruto
Andrew Foster
>I doubt anime is as popular as it was during the time of DBZ and Saint Seiya, then later Naruto Anime is so popular now that it's getting Hollywood adaptations (Alita, GiTS).
When has that happened before?
Jaxson Nelson
>XB2 is constantly praised and talked about as one of the greatest jrpgs ever made. Not him but you're talking out of your ass. Its only shilled in its own threads which are 90% waifu threads and people butthurt over XB1 an X being rated higher. Literally nobody would think that its one of the best jrpgs ever. Certainly not franchise fans and definitely not those of other franchises.
Connor Harris
lmao, thanks for answering my question. EXTREMELY delusional and butthurt obviously.
Hunter Young
As always the best post is ignored
Evan Kelly
Give it a shit or maybe emulate one of the earlier ones first.
John Stewart
>Never played Fire emblem. Should I try three houses? Start with Fire Emblm 7 or the Sacred Stones on the GBA, see if that whets you appetite for the sries
Yep I watched some devs documentries on youtube and on the japanese side you have people like Kamiya, Daisuke from guilty gear, Yoko Taro, Koyimbles, Itsuno... people with a vision and passion.
Meanwhile on the western side characters are created in a lab by consensus. Look at Aloy from Horizon, in the interviews they excplicitly talk about how a lot of people were responsible for her design and "personality" and that they tried to create an "iconic" character. The end result is a bland protagonist with no personality or consistency, for example Aloy is supposed to be 16 but looks almost 30 and has a weird face because they are super proud of not making a "sexualized" character in 2017 like we're still living in tomb riders ps1 era. She's also supposed to be an outcast and everyone in her tribe is forbidden to speak to her, but somehow Aloy is the most sociable person in the game who even flirts "ironically" with some females, but at the same time has no sexuality and feels no love.
Tyler Carter
i unironically think its one of the best JRPGs ever made, even being indifferent to the "waifus". More so because of it's soundtrack, battle system, world building, complexity, and storyline.
Caleb Lewis
will my gf do anal ?
Camden Phillips
Will I pass?
Ayden Ross
they are having new golden age because more kids grow up and see how shit mobile phone games are.
shh, he's a niggerfaggot kid who until recently only played phone games. snake, candy rush and guild bukkake was his world.
Jaxson Clark
Will this finally be the year I kill myself?
William Hall
>NEW IP WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU DOING ON HERE, KID?! ITS PAST YOUR BEDTIME!
Leo Rogers
Should I call in sick for work today
Joshua Walker
Call of Duty and Fifa do all those numbers in a month
Xavier King
You W0t?
Nathaniel Hughes
>H-hey atlus is p5 milking done yet? hahahahaha no. There's the musou, the fighting game, and three more registered domains with the acronyms "AG", "M" and "B".
We're gonna be knee deep in Persona 5 milk until 2030.
Zachary Ross
>>Final Fantasy XV Fuck is this true? Series is 100% dead then, oh well.
William Ross
>cosplaying a (((bisexual))) character Yikes.
Jaxon Sanchez
Will I be clutch for my job interview tomorrow?
Owen Morris
>>Final Fantasy XV is the fastest selling game of the franchise
and yet one of the worst quality FF games out there. I mean THIS is your "combat" all because the director wanted to pander to those Casuals.
>Ni no Kuni II did amazing as well What exactly does this mean? I heard and am seeing the exact opposite. I'd even wager to say it probably did worse than the first game. Am eagerly waiting to be proven wrong. Protip: you can't
Brody Kelly
>nier automata >new ip Kill yourself you faggot I hate all you fags that jumped on the game’s bandwagon
>and yet one of the worst quality FF games out there. I mean THIS is your "combat" all because the director wanted to pander to those Casuals. As opposed to the incredibly complex and highly challenging combat of past Final Fantasies?
>>new ip It might as well be considering Nier didn't exactly set the world on fire.
Ethan King
I guess so. Stream it faggot
Lincoln Bailey
Will I get her?
William Murphy
Because whatever poison got into the bloodstream of the west, full force, hasn't fully penetrate the east yet.
Angel Baker
Will I get fired today
Ian Hall
haha Galuf died
Josiah Hughes
>western characters designed to be ugly to appeal to a western audience
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
No, fucking seriously? WHO? Literally fucking who wants this? I never asked for this shit. I grew up on awesome art in the PnP RPGs and shit, and that's what I expected to be fully represented in western RPGs one day. I never got that. We skipped it. We went straight to EVERYTHING MUST BE FUCKING UGLY
Frank Frazetta Luis Royo Boris Vallejo Victoria Frances and so many other western artists are out there to use as a basis for fucking BEAUTIFUL western art in games and developers continually fucking ignore all of it. Remember the art for the dragon lance novels and pnp books? Remember the beautiful dark sun art?
Did we EVER get that in a game that was technologically advanced enough to ACTUALLY depict the art instead of vaguely hint at it with over pixelated shit that we could barely make out?
NO
I WANT THAT SHIT TO BE OUR GAMES NOW
I want western RPGs to go back to the art behind the old western RPGs and actually try and depict that beautiful fucking shit.
Hell there are even modern artists they could use for reference, creating beautiful art that modern idiot developers pass over completely in favor of beating everything to death with the ugly stick.
>Did we EVER get that in a game that was technologically advanced enough to ACTUALLY depict the art instead of vaguely hint at it with over pixelated shit that we could barely make out? >NO
The in game visuals lagged massively behind what the art represented. You see the east actually trying to bring their art to life in these games, and succeeding even. In the west? Old games like dark messiah couldn't handle the visuals the art demanded and now that we have the hardware power to do it all the devs want to do is create the most ugly shit imaginable.
Hunter Cox
>Name a modern WRPG with challenging combat.
that is a good question, I haven't touched any modern WRPGs outside of Skyrim
Look at Dark Messiah's concept art. It struggled to even come close to depicted what the art is meant to be. It's just trashy old 3d graphics low poly, jerky animations and muddy textures.
Aiden Morris
Just pointing out that WRPG fans can't throw stones.
Nolan Long
>Just pointing out that WRPG fans can't throw stones. Nobody said anything about wrpgs until you did, in a desperate attempt to find a strawman.
In fact, the poster complaining about FFXV's dumbed down combat was complaining it specifically in contrast to other FF's, not wrpgs.
Tyler Reed
>dont play rpgs because both jrpgs and wrpgs have shit combat Feels good to be better than little JRPG and WRPG bitches
There are multiple posts in this thread that say lots of things about WRPG before I in the post you're quoting. So, now that we've established you're a liar, we can assume that everything you've said prior, now and beyond this point is questionable.
Cameron Price
Frankly Persona 5, Nier Automata, Breath of the Wild and Kingdom Hearts 3 have made this generation of games pretty great for me. I know people here shit on them but I unironically love them all
Most western games I play these days are strategy of some sort, the occasional indie, or something not particularly mainstream. A lot of other genres the west is known for like shooters have mostly gone down the shitter, and WRPGs are dumbed down husks of their former selves.
Don't mind Eric, he loves to say stupid shit about XB2
Jack Evans
I want Poppi to punch me
Dominic Wood
Don't mind user. user is user about being user.
David Gomez
Will my future wife be into anal?
Dylan Campbell
>its literally the worst received blade game to date and its only talked about due to waifus hi eric
this isn't the Awakening effect where a normie friendly game ruined the otherwise obscure franchise ofr the hardcores. this is just shulkbabbies mad that the franchise has roots in weebshit that they refused to acknowledge because they didn't play any other installments that were not Blade 1 or X
Luke Smith
>no budget >box office bomb >tried to recreate scenes with crigey results >Hokuta No Ken was a LITERAL WHO anime in the west in the mid 90s
Angel Sanchez
can i join Storm team?
Julian Edwards
What's funny is that XC1 is anime as hell >Shulk gets his obentou delivered by his osananajimi, who berates him for being such a baka airhead who forgets to eat >then the GIANT GUNDAMS ATTACK and kill his childhood friend >but she's not dead! she's a SEXY ROBOT LADY IN A THONG NOW! >but not just any robot lady, she's POSSESSED BY THE ROBOGODDESS who returned from death to stop the current conflict! >and the main character was ALSO POSSESSED BY AN EVIL GOD who they kill with the power of friendship! Not anime though, absolutely not.
Isaac Foster
Because nobody wants to play an ugly character in a politicized game. Even ResetEra trannies fap to anime girls.
Liam Cooper
I havent played a single game on that list.
Ian Miller
You don't enjoy games?
Bentley Phillips
Should I bother chasing after that Canadian girl?
David Walker
will gamescom deliver
Benjamin Walker
What happened to western games bros?
Jackson Gonzalez
I mean, you can't name one WRPG with decent combat, new or old.
>The real question is why are you pretending weeb shit doing less the half the sales of western games is a success? they generally have lower budgets to begin with, and different sales expectations because they're niche products.
Camden Howard
>wrpgs >beautiful they have always been boring ugly slogs, and almost always take place in either a generic tolkien dungeons & dragons setting or a generic sci-fi setting.
Oliver Ward
My guess? Unironically graphics. We always had "anime games" but take a look at some PS1 or PS2 games. They don't look like anime. Even the pixelart ones, while nice, looked more like pixelart than an anime on screen. But the most recent games, with their shaders and filters and resolution of graphics, can make it look like an active anime when viewed on screen. And so the big anime fans are all into JRPGs since it's not like they have any standards to begin with.
Just look at the list you provided. Everything except Octopath Traveler looks like a bunch of anime cutscenes, and not just in a few select FMVs.
I'll also note that you are probably padding your numbers a bit. "Best selling game of the franchise" is pretty much what you'd expect since hobbies tend to grow over time. Unless there is a serious downturn, I'd expect most sequels to end up the best selling of their franchise just because new fans aren't going back to buy previous titles in the series.
Jack Cook
the real truth is that xeno has always been trash. xenogears and xenoblade x were unfinished, the xenosaga games were abysmal, xenoblade 1 and 2 were cringe shovelware. it's easily one of the most overrated series of all time.
Oliver Parker
>Congrats on being the biggest dumbass on Yea Forums. It isn't even the first Nier game. Not to mention the fact the series is a spinoff based on the worst ending of Drakengard 1. >Since when are sequels new ips? For fuck's sake there are references galore to the first game. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT OLD SHIT GAMES TARO PUKED OUT BACK THEN.
Jayden White
I wish I was a 12/10 girl
Grayson Rivera
Baldur's Gate story is lowkey but hardly regional on the grand scheme of things
>Baldur's Gate story is lowkey but hardly regional on the grand scheme of things Sure, but a new god ascending to the pantheon and taking over the portfolio of his predecessor happens all the time in the Forgotten Realms. It's just business as usual, and doesn't lead to any world-ending scenario like in XB2.
Michael Reed
there hasnt been a good game released from either in the last 5 years
ugh
Chase Diaz
>always take place in either a generic tolkien dungeons & dragons setting If anything, jrpgs are for more guilty of that.
A good way to demonstrate what I mean is to look at how jrpgs utilize their settings. For instance, if you look at wrpgs that aren't high fantasy, like say Fallout, Deus Ex, Jagged Alliance, Vampire The Masquerade, etc. they tend to incorporate aspects of their setting in their gameplay. And I don't mean things like characters using guns. I mean stuff like Fallout having a barter economy, which is logical in a post-apocalyptic society where monetization has broken down. Or how cybernetic augmentations in Deus Ex take the place of a more traditional RPG system. Or the whole mercenary company aspect of Jagged Alliance.
It's obvious that a game's setting should inform its gameplay. But jrpgs really don't do this. Even jrpgs that take place in modern or futuristic settings, such as Persona or Xenoblade, still revolve around typical high fantasy cliches like dungeon crawling and god-killing shenanigans. The characters even still use medieval weaponry. Heck, Symphony of the Night is a Japanese RPG where you play as a vampire, yet you can't even bite anyone to drink blood, meaning you can't even fulfil the basic function of a vampire. How lame is that? Or take Lost Odyssey, a game where you play as immortals, yet you can somehow still die from combat.
Another baffling trope is when jrpgs take place in a world such as various Final Fantasy games, where the technology and level of civilization is far more advanced than our own, yet the world still functions like a pre-industrial society, with small settlements separated by vast, uncharted expanses of wilderness filled with wild beasts and roving bandits, and characters still using medieval weaponry. What is the point of going with a futuristic setting if it's functionally and thematically identical to a medieval fantasy world?
>post-apocalyptic smt nocturne >fictional real-world persona >steampunk resonance of fate >cyberpunk soul hackers >superhero fiction z.h.p. unlosing ranger vs. darkdeath evilman >science fiction ar nosurge >alternate history valkyria chronicles >urban fantasy the world ends with you >high fantasy dragon quest >science fantasy ffxii >in before "those don't count because they don't use their settings exactly the same way as my cherrypicked wrpgs!"
Ian Morgan
>>in before "those don't count because they don't use their settings exactly the same way as my cherrypicked wrpgs!"
Okay, genius, if Valkyria Chronicles is supposedly alternate history, then explain to me where the Jews are in the world of Valkyria Chronicles. If it really takes place in an alternate version of WW, where are they? Where are the british? The americans? The germans? The russians?
NO RACES are ever identified in VC, except for two: Darcsens and Valkyrur, none of which have ever existed in our history.
That's why it's not alternate history. Its its own completely separate fantasy world.
>post-apocalyptic >smt nocturne Wrong. Takes place in some sort of purgatory DURING the apocalypse, not after it, and doesn't explore the ethics of a post-apocalyptic civilization in any way. There is no POST-apocalypse in Nocturne because all life on the world was ended, there is no world to even return to or rebuild.
>fictional real-world >persona Again, wrong. Is fantasy. 'Fictional real world' refers to games that take place in a fictional version of the real world, without fantasy or sci-fi elements.
>steampunk >resonance of fate The game where characters use modern firearms, completely at odds with the level of technology in a steampunk setting? No.
>cyberpunk >soul hackers It has minor cyberpunk elements, but it's primarily a fantasy game and doesn't truly explore cyberpunk themes in any meaningful way.
>science fiction >ar nosurge How? Characters blatantly use magic.
Thanks for proving my point, I guess? The fact that you can't even come up with jrpgs that fit those settings only confirms the point that image was making.
Eli Richardson
Because western devs have mostly been ruined by greedy shareholders and diversity hiring/sjw practices.
Jaxon Young
>>alternate history >valkyria chronicles
Oh yeah, I totally remember WW2 involving teenage girls in short skirts fighting on the front lines and big-tittied women firing magical blue lasers and tanks running on some magical resource called ragnite.
>this alternative history is too alternative! REEEEEEE!!!
Thomas Moore
you know beepzorz is seething when he samefags three times to make it look like other people agree with him.
Jason Hall
Dragons dogma 2?
Isaac Diaz
>WW2 involving teenage girls in short skirts fighting on the front lines That's what makes it alternate history, retard.
The super sayian blue death lasers is far more fantasy, but that depends on how much you're willing to just put it down to japanese weirdness and if you consider that to be the major factor in the game, as opposed to the squad interaction. JP loves to have people spontaneously develop psychic ki death beams, but I don't know if that automatically turned everything into a magic fantasy.
Kevin Hughes
>>this alternative history is too alternative! REEEEEEE!!!
Do you even understand the basic concept behind alternate history? 'Alternate history' has as premise that our history happened. Then at some point, things diverged, that's where the 'alternate' comes in. Example:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionheart:_Legacy_of_the_Crusader >Lionheart's historical chronology puts forth that Richard the Lionheart's massacre of 3000 prisoners at the Siege of Acre, during the Third Crusade, was used by a villainous character as fuel for a ritual which tore the fabric of reality. This resulted in magic invading the game's world from other dimensions. The game itself takes place during the 16th century, which, due to the alternate reality setting, has been ravaged by uncontrolled magic and demonic creatures.
Another way to do alternate history is as follows:, things were always different, but the world at large is not aware of this, and history occured as we know it (except for secret happenings that we are unaware of). Example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darklands_(video_game) >The setting for Darklands is medieval Europe as the inhabitants thought the world was at the time. All the cities that one's party may visit in the game are real places that existed in the Holy Roman Empire of the 15th century. Most are in modern-day Germany, but some are within the modern borders of other countries including Denmark, Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Austria, the Czech Republic and Poland. The city names given in the game are old German names of the cities, some of which are now exonyms; the new local names are given in parentheses.
Notice the difference? Races, historical events, etc. in these games are the same as our world. VC does not have this premise at all. It's its own fantasy world, no different from something like LoTR.
>Unfortunately it's because the anime style in general has gotten mainstream. Hopefully the fad fades away and we can return to how things used to be. Indeed.
>Skyrim, Skyrim: Enhanced Edition (which was free if you already owned the original game + dlc), SkyrimVR >"six different times"
Grayson Perez
>>persona >Again, wrong. Is fantasy. 'Fictional real world' refers to games that take place in a fictional version of the real world, without fantasy or sci-fi elements. P3-5 Is urban-fantasy, though it's questionable if P4's setting can be considered urban.
Jackson Fisher
>P3-5 Is urban-fantasy Okay, but that's a different subgenre.
I was talking about the subgenre of fiction that doesn't involve magical or sci-fi elements. There are plenty of wrpgs that have such a setting, but I can't think of a single jrpg like that
