>Year of DOOM >One of the most influential games of all time >All Doom games now on Nintendo consoles >Doom64 has yet to be revealed for Switch and could be to promote both that and Eternal >Doom Eternal lead dev randomly brought up Smash in a conversation about MK11 and right after the other dev glances at him quickly as if he shouldn’t have said that >Bethesda being the last big third party supporter Switch and Todd Howard was in the initial Switch direct >Pete Hines has hinted at Smash twice with “who knows, maybe more surprises for Nintendo fans of Doom along the way” and “oh yeah” when asked about if Bethesda has talked about Smash >No FPS rep yet (Dark Samus doesn’t count) >If amiibo theory is true and DLC4 is released by the end of November around Doom: Eternal’s launch >Every fake leak that gets pushed around mentions DOOM for some reason
Before you say that Doom isn’t popular in Japan remember that Metroid got two new reps despite Metroid selling like shit in Japan
They won’t allow the word “Doom” to be in Smash because they want it to be friendly to teenagers. Adding Doomslayer would raise the rating.
Jonathan Cooper
Persona 5 is rated M and it didn’t change anything, neither did Bayo in Smash 4
Brayden Brooks
>Pete Hines has hinted at Smash twice with “who knows, maybe more surprises for Nintendo fans of Doom along the way” and “oh yeah” when asked about if Bethesda has talked about Smash We don't know the context for the latter and for all we know the "surprises" were for the Switch ports >No FPS rep yet (Dark Samus doesn’t count) Quotafagging is degenerate Don't use it, you're better than that >Every fake leak that gets pushed around mentions DOOM for some reason Because people expect him Shovel Knight was all around fake leaks for Smash 4 during the Ballot and he didn't make it in >Bethesda being the last big third party supporter Switch and Todd Howard was in the initial Switch direct Nintendo and Ubisoft have a decent relationship with collaborations like Star Link and Mario/Rabbids Rayman still isn't playable Koei Tecmo and Nintendo have a great relationship yet nobody from Koei Tecmo is in >Doom Eternal lead dev randomly brought up Smash in a conversation about MK11 and right after the other dev glances at him quickly as if he shouldn’t have said that That's reaching beyond reaching Unless you professionally understand body language, you shouldn't say such things Both men were tired and weary and for all we know, Hugo could've turned his head to see if he would finish speaking. People don't like staying still.
I want him in but please stay rational
He was actually It just took the 2016 port on the Switch
Doom 1 and 2 were only Nintendo consoles DECADES ago. The only ones they were missing were 3 and Final. Final has still yet to be ported to a Nintendo system.
Matthew Gray
Cookie a cute.
Jackson Peterson
>Before you say that Doom isn’t popular in Japan remember that Metroid got two new reps despite Metroid selling like shit in Japan
This is the worst comparison ever. Nintendo OWNS Metroid.
Noah Torres
Doom will be in smash, but not as a fighter. Itll be items and background stuff. No levels or characters
Dominic Flores
should've added that Sakurai personally called DOOM 'the father of FPSs'
Christopher Green
Wasn't Doom 64 leaked for the PS4 and PC?
He called Carmack that
Owen Evans
>Wasn't Doom 64 leaked for the PS4 and PC? Yes but no. That rating went up the same day as doom 1/2 released/went up. The thing is though, Doom 3 never got a rating, so it was probably a fluke and the rating dude interpreted "The first 3 numbered doom games" as "1, 2, and 64" instead of 1, 2, and 3. Nightdive has kinda been hinting at something 64 related though, so maybe it'll be revealed soon now that they're done with their turok 2 port.
Xavier Gonzalez
Source on Nightdive doing that?
Austin Davis
Well the "source" isn't something specific. Just tiny things such as them doing the eyes emoji under a post about the doom 64 rating. More specifically, Stephen is doing that (the dude in charge of 64 EX and is super high up at nightdive. They've both been equally """hinting""" at it. That stopped a week or so after the rumor though so who knows. Could just be them messing with us.
Charles Sanders
Does Bethesda and id even care enough about 64?
Liam Long
Its just things to note, I’m not saying this is evidence I’m just saying Doomguy is likely but I’m not giving my hopes up. No other character has this amount of hints. Koei Tecmo has spirits and an assist trophy if anything was from them it would have been in the base game
William Collins
Have they messed with people in the past like Boon or the stunt this year's EVO pulled?
Kayden Smith
I have no idea desu. It's possible they did, but no one knows for sure. They have been on a role of remastering old n64/pc games so who knows. Panic button was in charge of the Doom 3 port, so bethesda isn't against the idea of handing over porting rights to an outside source.
Carter Smith
Reminder that save for Joker Sakurai is listening to the ballot
>B-but no one wanted Hero Yeah, if you listen to only the US, DQ was a popular pick in Japan
Doomguy wasn't even uttered during the ballot, he ain't getting in.
Brody Fisher
What the fuck is amiibo theory?
Lucas Scott
Hugo Martin has been at the helm of the reboot and his first game was Doom 64
Charles King
Thank you non-biased cow
Gabriel Bell
Nintendo chose the DLC
Basically things lining up with amiibo wave releases since Joker and Hero were released when new amiibo came out I'm not sure about Doomguy being Eternal promotion seeing how that game comes out in mid late November and odds are the third character won't be out until December
Matthew Green
The word "Hell" is in the game.
Charles White
I think shovel knight would be better set for the theme of smush, and much easier to pull a moveset from source material.
would be cool to have another small heavyweight like wario and bulbasaur.
Sebastian Davis
Tell me why Nintendo would choose Doomguy then?
Parker Stewart
>Nintendo chose the DLC My point still stands.
Jason Bailey
>>It just took the 2016 port on the Switch I hate these kinds of fans. Crashfags especially think they have a chance because their souless port got on the Switch after it being PS4 exclusive.
Liam Harris
Because they themselves refer to the series as Iconic? Because Sakurai knows of Doom's importance to PC gaming and the FPS genre? Because they could promote Doom Eternal that way?
>Because they themselves refer to the series as Iconic? How wow, a headline. Truly Nintendo must value this series enough to add it to Smash.
>Because Sakurai knows of Doom's importance to PC gaming and the FPS genre He gave Carmack his due and called him the father of FPS, that's it.
>Because they could promote Doom Eternal that way? This applies to more than just Doom
Caleb Hill
> Muh influence That's literally irrelevant you fucking faggot, nobody gives a shit about PC games. The only time it was ever as mainstream as console gaming was in 2004 when World of WarCraft came out. PC games from the 90s are utterly forgotten in the 21st century aside from StarCraft & Half-Life
Jacob Hughes
post yfw the 5ch leak ended up being real but they fucked up and thought steve was in instead of banjo
As annoying as it can be, its to be expected considering when Nintendo's third party was barren during the Wii U, people thought indies were the only viable candidates and were flabbergasted when Ryu and Cloud got in
>That's literally irrelevant you fucking faggot, nobody gives a shit about PC games
Yeah that's why Valve is currently one of the biggest video game platforms. Also Gabe Newell founded Valve because of id Software. Shut the fuck up retard.
That wouldn't make sense If the leaker had any legitimacy, he wouldn't have fucked up considering he flat out fucking say that Steve was a character planned for launch but got held back for Dungeons promotion and even acknowledged the skins he'd come with
William Torres
they did that for crash too
Cooper Brooks
I truly wish but I'm not getting my hopes up. Doomguy is the only character they could possibly add that'd get a soiboi reaction out of me.
Camden Evans
What does that have to do with Smash or Nintendo though?
Thomas Anderson
Good point. But you'd think being on a Nintendo console being a major necessity would have stopped when Cloud and even fucking Joker got in. The imaginary rules are annoying if you ask me. I think the only rule is they have to be a video game character, seeing that Sakurai's said no to Goku and now Captain America recently
Jonathan Harris
Fuck Smash, I only care about them releasing Doom 64.
Cameron Bailey
There were definitely more than just Indies being requested. Back during the ballot you had characters like Crash and Klonoa even getting requested. Klonoa who has been dead for years by the way.
James Reyes
> Final Fantasy (NES, 1986) > Megami Tensei (NES, 1986) Both of those are Nintendo franchises you absolute retard, every franchise has originated from a Nintendo platform or Arcade except Sonic.
Brayden Jenkins
>Doom 64. It's a little surprising they haven't re-released best Doom on the Switch, yeah.
Colton Ward
My parents literally don't even know what Tetris is, what makes you think they've heard of literal who shit like Doom?
Elijah Evans
Persona stopped calling itself SMT: Persona since P4G, Persona is it's own series now.
Gavin Thompson
Yes but the indies overshadowed them by a large margin Shantae and Shovel Knight were reaching the higher ends of polls because their devs pushed for them and people assumed that indies could make it as the Wii U didn't have that many options for third parties in its line up I highly doubt that if the Wii U had decent third party support, we'd still see that many requests for indies
>Cap It was Iron Man but yeah, same thing
Matthew Johnson
Means nothing you faggot, Persona is apart of MegaTen.
Ethan Martinez
honestly why would Captain merica be in smash? Still think of the shield bounce possibilities.
Charles Cox
kek relevencycuck is still trying
Juan Myers
My point being is that Doom is basically the reason FPS games are popular and Nintendo as well as Sakurai himself consider them important stables of gaming history just like Dragon Quest.
You're honestly fucking stupid if you don't think Sakurai or Nintendo wouldn't want to have Doom represented in Smash.
It needs to be on all the systems, imo. Mostly because I don't own a switch.
Daniel Cook
I was mistaken it was Iron man but Stark was definitely requested because of MCU and End Game coming out around Ultimate
Bentley Gray
He's an assist trophy already, do you want the waluigi fags to have ground to stand on?
Jonathan Walker
Your parents are zoomers. There's your answer.
Grayson James
> MUH INFLUENCE Dragon Quest is a 12 billion dollar franchise and originated on the NES, Doom sold like shit & nobody played any of the ports because GoldenEye existed. It was only popular among PC boomer fags who couldn't afford consoles
Josiah Hughes
>It needs to be on all the systems, imo. Mostly because I don't own a switch. It probably will be. Assuming PEGI's rating wasn't a massive screwup, it'll be coming to ps4/pc/xbox as well like doom 1/2
Jace Thompson
>It needs to be on all the systems I mean, you're right because everyone should have a chance to play it but I'm saying it's especially odd the port machine doesn't have a port of one of the best third party Nintendo games when said third party was releasing a whole bunch of them at once.
Andrew Barnes
My parents are like 40 years old, cope more Doomcuck. Your shit game is literal who tier, influence literally has no impact on people giving a shit about your game decades after it comes out. Nintendo fans don't give a shit about Doom
Juan Nguyen
Japan doesn't give a damn about shooters, and Dragon Quest is a juggernaut in Japan. Doom isn't even the most popular shooter out.
James Powell
Kill yourself, Doomfags are literally the ones who started this relevancy bullshit in the first place. Every thread they spam "Muh it was influential so that means Doomguy is in"
Kayden Gutierrez
Wasn't Doom so popular people had it more on their computers than fucking Windows?
Grayson Stewart
In everywhere in the world but Japan. Not to say I don't want him, the exact opposite really, nor am I saying it's impossible.
It's not like Doom is obscure in Japan either. It's not popular but most people who are into gaming there have at least heard of it. nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32801219 Take this video for example, 300 000 views. That's pretty good for niconico numbers. youtube.com/watch?v=m5_rmF1B8Mg Reupload of the niconico video but on YouTube, over 600 000 views. Pretty good numbers. youtube.com/watch?v=XDSaotNuKnw Another Japanese video about Doom, over a million views.
This is just modern Doom too, classic Doom has a cult fanbase in Japan as well. doomwiki.org/wiki/Japanese_Community_Project There's multiple Japanese modders and map makers for the game. There's a good amount of Japanese fanart as well.
In conclusion, Doom isn't popular in Japan but it's not like it's unknown. FPS is actually a pretty big genre in Japan surprisingly and while Doom isn't as popular as other FPS games there, it's significantly more influential and has more history with Nintendo.
Doom sold more copies than Windows at one point and Doom 1,2,& 3 on Switch are all selling like hotcakes in EU & NA
Jonathan Roberts
It was popular among PC fags, which were a minority until the late 90s. North America has always been dominated by Nintendo, Sony dominated Japan. Europe was the only place were PC gaming was popular
I never said it wasn't influential, it's simply not popular or relevant among people under the age of 40. Which is objectively true.
Oliver Young
So every fan of the new Doom reboot must be 40 and over
Connor Perez
Neither is Dragon Quest and look what the fuck happened. Now shut the fuck up and sit down.
Chase Carter
I specifically said Japan didn't care about shooters and that Doom isn't even the most popular shooter in the west where as Dragon Quest is an absolute juggernaut in Japan.
Anthony Gray
t. faggot who knows fuck all of what he's talking about Dragon Quest is fucking huge in japan even today, and guess where Smash is made.
Blake Howard
> Literal 12 Billion dollar franchise > Thinking it isn't popular among all demographics when even the Japanese government had to acknowledge it as the most culturally impactful media franchise in Japan > Comparing your literal who shit is remotely as popular as Dragon Quest Doomfags are mentally ILL
Jose Johnson
So? Smash doesn't solely revolve around what only Japan wants.
Matthew Brooks
And Doomguy wasn't even wanted until AFTER Smash Ultimate released. Doomguy isn't even the most wanted shooter character.
Oliver Kelly
Japanese game retard, every 3rd party character is popular in Japan.
Ayden Jackson
With the exception of Ridley and Dark Samus, yes it really does.
Jeremiah Hernandez
>>Comparing your literal who shit is remotely as popular as Dragon Quest >literal who
Hey remember when Stevefags used this "popularity" argument against Banjofags? That ended well for them.
I won’t say you are wrong user but I will say to temper your excitement so you aren’t disappointed. If on the off chance he is announced I will be right there with you screeching at the top of my lungs like an autist that escaped his handlers
Chase Smith
I own every first party Nintendo game from the past 6 years and DOOM is one of my favorite games of all time. You don’t speak for Nintendo fans retard
That sounds retarded. Do we know the amiibo release schedule through the rest of the year? Also, Banjo is most definitely going to be out before December. In fact, that's when dlc 4 should be releasing with the last pack in either late Jan or Feb
Bentley Phillips
>Doomguy/Doom Slayer can't get in Smash because he's not famous in Jap- Ridley and Little Mac. >Doomguy/Doom Slayer can't get in Smash because he uses realistic weap- Joker >Doomguy/Doom Slayer can't get in Smash because of mentions of religion and Hel- Captain Falcon, Rodin, Simon and Richter. >Doomguy/Doom Slayer can't get in Smash because he's too Viol- Bayonetta >Doomguy/Doom Slayer can't get in Smash because it'd ruin his ima- Tony Hawk on PC. >Doomguy/Doom Slayer can't get in Smash because he's Wester- Banjo and Kazooie
Keep pushing those goalposts. You're really setting yourself up to get BTFO, Yea Forums.
>odds are the third character won't be out until December December isn't Fall dumbass
Adam Cook
Can you get in trouble if you lie about talking to another company?
Nicholas Perry
No. Lying is part of NDAs.
Zachary Garcia
I meant fourth My bad
Luke Lee
i'd take Doomguy if that means At Doom's Gate or Rip and Tear make it into Smash
Josiah Perry
Highly requested party and another first party
Sure, the gun rule was dumb but Joker was a Sakurai pick
In since the first game, an assist trophy, highly requested and the last one is an echo
Won the smash ballot
Has nothing to do with Smash
Highly requested.
Justin Hughes
> Ridley & Little Mac Nintendo characters in a Nintendo game > Joker Popular Japanese character in a Japanese game, spin-off of a franchise that originated on Nintendo consoles > Captain Falcon, Rodin Nintendo Characters in a Nintendo game > Simon & Richter Japanese characters from a franchise that is basically Nintendo exclusive in a Nintendo game > Bayonetta Nintendo character in a Nintendo game > Banjo Kazooie Nintendo character who was later bought out by Microsoft in a Nintendo game > Doomguy Literal who boomer character that nobody cared about until the recent Smash leak faggotry, has absolutely no popularity in Japan, is irrelevant among Nintendo fans.
Andrew Kelly
It's easier to get a Nintendo owned character that's heavily requested than a third party and Doomguy wasn't even on anyone's radar until after Ultimate came out
Alexander Lopez
No I meant this >Bethesda and Nintendo never talk about Smash >Hines lies and says they did I know lying is part of NDA, I meant if there wasn't any discussion, could Hines say that there was and not piss off Nintendo?
Ryder Walker
Rodin and Bayonetta are owned by Sega you fucking idiot.
Noah Clark
Adding first parties requires no effort, Doomfags are desperate & have to latch onto first party characters due to them being completely BTFO'd by the 3rd parties
Let me put this in context for you. People in Japan give less of a fuck about Doom than they do Halo. And Japan doesn't give a fuck about Halo and hate the Xbox. Whatever fanbase Doom has in Japan is minuscule.
Colton Miller
Unrelated note, but how did the Japanese pull off RE7? That was a very competent horror fps
Yeah, funnily enough Nintendo is the only console manufacturer that has had the entirety of mainline Doom (64 counts, the reboot goes from that continuity) on their systems now that 3 got released
Joshua Torres
>those names in the No Confirmed Release Fucking RIP
Justin Walker
Doomfags are the most autistic pieces of shit on this entire board, even worse than Sony wojak spammers.
Jordan Murphy
>Literal who boomer character that nobody cared about until the recent Smash leak faggotry, has absolutely no popularity in Japan, is irrelevant among Nintendo fans. Sadly this. As much as I want Doomguy, to say that he has a huge shot at getting in would just be denial. Doom is iconic as fuck and does deserve to be in Smash for the sheer legacy but there's nothing that's giving him a chance other than that. Doom has little to no presence in Japan and he was never requested in any ballots even from the Western side until after the characters were decided. In fact I'm actually kinda sad that he was barely mentioned way back in the ballot as much as he is now, because if Sakurai saw all these popular votes for him and with the new good relationship with Bethesda, Doomguy would be a fucking shoe-in. But because there was no demand in the past as much as there is now, here has an extremely low shot. The only thing we can hope for is another Smash Ballot after the pass is done if he doesn't get in to show how much support Doomguy has. Until then, I'm just hoping on Sakurai actually wanting him for the legacy and Doom Eternal, but it's still such a longshot.
Jason Long
>Nintendo approaches Bethesda to add doomsayer >bethesda sees easy profits and a chance at some of that smash brothers money and agrees without hesitation >suddenly Todd kicks down the door to the board meeting >carrying a large flat square item covered in a sheet >uncovers the sheet revealing a pitch to get pipboy into smash with moveset ideas and everything >the board agrees but Nintendo reps say no >Todd spergs out and demands everyone to leave >they just add Steve instead
Robert Campbell
That was present on the Doom 1/2 ratings too, so it'll probably be coming to xbox/switch as well.
>"People in Japan give less of a fuck about Doom than they do Halo" kotaku.com/poll-japans-favorite-first-person-shooters-and-third-1795534424 I don't see any Halo here, but I do see Doom. What makes you think Halo is more popular than Doom there? Doom definitely has a larger fanbase than Halo in Japan lmao, stop making shit up.
Jason Kelly
>Being in talks with Nintendo about Smash doesn't mean they actually went anywhere. If Nintendo approached Bethesda, it'd make sense especially since Reggie said nobody has turned it down It wouldn't make sense for Nintendo to make a list after working with third parties for permission
Levi Cruz
didn't make the meme, just posting for relevance
Ayden Davis
> Implying Doomguy a literal who shitter would ever be considered Doom literally isn't iconic among normalfags
Henry Hughes
Can we please have a fanbase for a character that isn't completely autistic? How hard is it to have a decent argument without resorting to name calling when you run out of arguments?
They also didn't put up a rating for Doom 3 because they got it confused with 64, it's never getting out of licensing hell
Samuel Torres
You are such an idiot. This is so overly complex and stupid it's proof you've never designed a game ever.
Dylan Collins
God this hurts but you're right. He's been my most wanted since before the 2016 game. I even voted for him during the ballot. But he only got popular as a Smash pick because of the leak which was after the DLC was decided. Missed opportunity, man. Hopefully next game he'll have a bigger presence.
Dominic Reyes
>Doom literally isn't iconic among normalfags Most normalfags may not play it, but they're still gonna recognize what Doom is
Asher Watson
That Otis poster is one of the few people in these doomguy smash threads who isn't a complete shithead. Otis poster if you're reading this, props to you.
Do you even know how many people are on this poll?
Hunter Powell
I have high hopes for Doomguy but not high expectations.
Owen Lewis
>it'd make sense especially since Reggie said nobody has turned it down Didn't one of Sakurai's articles say they have had negotiations fall through on some characters though?
Xavier Gutierrez
This, most people that want Doomguy/Doom Slayer acknowledges the chances aren't the greatest
Eli White
That's probably the likely story but man, it'd be super cool if it wasn't the case.
Adam Myers
I just imagined Todd Howard coming into meetings and sperging it up trying to get one of “his” characters into smash I’m not trying to act like that’s canon.
Jace Taylor
I mean yeah I never designed a game but isn't Robin and Hero pretty complex? Robin particularly because his moveset is different depending on if he has the sword on not.
I like your shield special idea and weapon switching, although I disagree with the execution of the specials in your moveset. I was thinking he'd be able to run & gun. Like his f-tilt, jab, dash attack, and f-air could all be basically the same move. Kinda like how Megaman does it, except Doomguy can switch his weapons. Pressing shield and b will bring up a wheel (like in Eternal) that allows Doomguy to quickly select a weapon. He could switch between the super shotgun, chaingun, rocket launcher, and plasma gun. However, each weapon requires ammo. Doomguy replenishes ammo by using his chainsaw, like how he does in 2016 and Eternal, which is used for smash attacks as well as an aerial or two. Normals that don't use guns or the chainsaw have Doomguy use his fists. As for the specials, they'd use weapons not already used for the weapon wheel. These weapons wouldn't take ammo though. The exception to both of those prior sentences would be the up b which uses the rocket launcher. Doomguy shoots it downwards to gain vertical momentum. For his neutral special, I was thinking something like the gauss cannon from Doom 2016. It's basically a gun that shoots a massive laser beam but it takes a while to charge and you have to hold still while charging it. Side b and down b could use other weapons from Doom 2016 and Eternal, don't really have any ideas rn other than the flamethrower since I never played 2016. I only ever played the classic Doom games.
Aaron Moore
Cope more > Doom 4 sales in Japan > PS4 - 0.04 Million > Switch - 0.01 Million
Jaxon Thompson
>Doomguy can't get in because of my made up rule!
The only rule there is, is that a character must originate from a video game. Why can't you retards comprehend this?
Neither is banjo faggot, and yet look at the seething going on regardless.
Joseph Ward
I think he said for Smash 4 We know Hugo and Marty are cool with Doomguy in Smash, so why would they say no?
Daniel Scott
No they won't you delusional piece of shit, the only FPS from the 90s they will recognize is GoldenEye 007
Cooper Bennett
Lmaooo that's still more than what Xbox as a whole sells in Japan. Besides, new Doom isn't as popular as classic Doom in Japan due to all the gore in new Doom.
Joseph Torres
Basically this. I hope they do one more ballot to finish off Ultimate, but I doubt they will.
Josiah Powell
That’s not bad actually in the Japanese market for a game like that.
Cameron Gutierrez
Doomfags are literally the ones making up rules & using them as arguments as to why Doomguy "will" get into Smash. Their only argument is spamming
John Phillips
>saying this when the word "Hell", religious symbolism, and guns exist in the game >thinking the word "Doom" is anywhere near as bad as these
>307 votes >Thinking that's a good indicator of anything Halo 3 at least managed to top Japanese Sales charts in Japan when it released, plus Halo rates higher and google trends shows it gets seached more than Doom does.
Matthew Thomas
>We know Hugo and Marty are cool with Doomguy in Smash, so why would they say no? Not him, but do Hugo/Marty have a say in it? I always thought it'd have to go through the higher ups of bethesda itself considering they own id software (and doom because of it) first. Could be wrong though, I'll admit I'm not that best at legal mumbo jumbo.
Wyatt Taylor
Love the weapon switch idea but it should be it's own special move. Also there should be other ways to reload I feel. He wrote as Hero exists.
Carson Ross
Doom 1993 is even less relevant now Banjo is popular you fucking retard, literally the 3rd most requested newcomer in Japan behind Magalor & Waddle Dee. Nobody gave a shit about PC gaming in the 90s, it was a complete afterthought. It was all about the console wars between Sega & Nintendo, and the Final Fantasy vs Legend of Zelda arguments
Jaxon Brooks
I don't know how true it is exactly, but I read somewhere Nintendo might actually own some parts of Doom 64, although I think the major hold up is with the composer. Yeah, that might have been the case with 4. It bothers me we'll probably never find out who they were either.
Robert Ross
I'm a Doomfag but it's disengenious to compare Doomguy to Banjo when discussing Smash. Doomguy and Banjo are both legacy mascots but Banjo has a way stronger tie to Nintendo than Doomguy, plus Banjo was a Smasn "never ever" up there with Ridley and K. Rool way back since Melee. Doomguy is only recently getting popular because of his reboot/sequel and recent leaks.
Dylan Hernandez
Not only Bethesda but then make it pass through zenimax
It’s why fuck all happens at Bethesda. and when something does happen 9 times out of 10 it’s “fuck yeah we put battle royale in fallout 76”
Sebastian Roberts
>Final Smash is BFG >They obviously can't say it's the big FUCKING gun so they call it Big FinalSmash Gun
Julian Harris
Hypothetical: Jacket is revealed as DLC #4. How do Doomfags, Leonfags and the indie shills (Reimu, Undertale, etc.) react?
>although I think the major hold up is with the composer. Oh? I always that Midway was the one holding the rights to themselves since they had publishing rights.
Mason Martinez
Or just call it "BFG9000". Doom 2016 never specified the acronym, but we all still knew what it was for.
Sebastian Brown
Isn't it canonically called the Bio Force Gun?
Tyler Lewis
There's an assist trophy literally called the devil, stop baiting
Owen Morris
Or they'll do what one of the mission challenges in Doom 2016 did and go BIG [REDACTED] GUN.
Lincoln Gonzalez
I wouldn't be excited for him but eh, it'll give me an excuse to try hotline miami atleast.
I fucking love Jacket so I would be in full support of this.
He would play as a glass cannon weapon user that hits as hard as Ganon and is as fast as Captain Falcon but is a super lightweight.
Christian Howard
Don't forget >DLC 2/3 had an eastern/western theme with Hero and Banjo/Kazooie, which is why they were in a dual reveal to please everyone >DLC 4/5 are believed to follow a similar pattern and several leaks have pointed this out, but it is not as heavily weighted like DQ and BK are If we get doomslayer then we are probably getting a jap character like monster hunter or dante
Alexander Morris
Doomguy has been cheered for, EVEN ON HERE, since brawl. Since when snake unlocked the floodgates of “BRO WHAT IF X”
I don’t want doomguy ONLY to keep Bethesda’s dirty paws as far away from smash as possible” other wise I think he’d be cool as fuck. But don’t act like there weren’t doom threads on here before 2016
John Mitchell
....Ryu Hayabusa?
Lucas Miller
It really isn't even that good. And shouldn't be listed as influential at all. Anyone over the age of 16 was much more impressed with build engine games. I remember showing doom to my friend's dad and he was like "let me know when you can jump, even arcade games from 10 years ago let you jump!" believe me, duke3d blew his fucking mind. jumping, ducking, looking up and down, blowing up walls, riding subways, believable urban environments, destructible fire hydrants, toilets, reflections in mirrors, mirrors and lights you can shoot out, trees that catch fire, all kinds of interactivity like this that no other FPS had before...
Austin Myers
Would be neat if they used the mask as a gimmick Makes me think of my pipe dream indie choice, Jill where she would use mixing drinks as that have different effects on her or enemies if she threw them at someone
>jap character like monster hunter or dante Is Dante big in Japan? Not saying he's irrelevant, I just never hear of him being brought up as a japanese character (even if Capcom owns him). I always saw him as a big Western character.
Andrew Roberts
based ninja gaiden bro
Ryder Collins
Doomguy will NEVER EVER make it into Smash Enjoy the Chosen Undead and Dovahkiin
Alexander Powell
The only reason Doom gets all the praise it does is because it got a signal boost thanks to it's gore and being caught up in the whole video game violence thing.
Levi Cooper
Sorry, meant to reply to
Connor Walker
But if they weren't in talks Could Hines get in trouble for saying that?
Ryan Moore
Yeah, but Midway Games is defunct and I'm not sure what happened to the rights in the sell off. Hotline Miami switch ports are out tomorrow. Try them
Nathan James
> Can only spam buzzwords because he just got BTFO'd Typical doomfags
Oliver Diaz
Even though I've never played much ng, I would love if ryu got in. He looks really cool and I'd love to see how a ninja plays. Plus if we could get "Unbreakable Determination" as a song then that will be my default stage/song forever. Before you say it no I refuse to play as a frog or zelda in disguise If he got in instead of dg I'd still be happy so it's a win/win either way.
Jack Gonzalez
I wouldn't mind
I wouldn't mind this either, but it just wouldn't work out. All Jill does is browse Yea Forums, smoke, masturbate, and mix drinks. That wouldn't translate well into Smash
Phoenix, Kyo/Terry, or a Namco rep would probably better, Monster Hunter is already repped
Christian Nelson
That's up to Nintendo, I don't think there are any laws against that kind of thing.
Andrew Rivera
Anything's possible with Villager and WFT being in. But she's actual never ever tier. I'll eat my Jill plush if she gets in though
Eli Lopez
>Yeah, but Midway Games is defunct and I'm not sure what happened to the rights in the sell off. Oh yeah, forgot they aren't a thing anymore. Would the rights not go right back to id since they made it/own the ip?
Thomas Cooper
You assholes gotta stop this campaign. You keep getting my hopes up, and making my heart set on Doomguy, I won't be able to take it when he is (obviously) not in.
It's gonna be Shadow all over again. :(
Tyler Thompson
This thread: >general rosterfaggotry >zoomers trying to talk like they know what the appeal of doom was when it released 20 years before they were even born. >E3 “leak” levels of bait
So in other words just another day at the office
Leo Gonzalez
Oc course there were Doom threads here before 2016. I was in them. I love Doomguy's "character" and have wanted him in Smash since forever. I even played that mod that turned Snake in Brawl to Doomguy wearing his classic armor. I'm just saying he only reached relevancy on a comparatively massive scale with normies thanks to the reboot (and even then he's not THAT popular compared to, say, Master Chief) and he only got popular on a comparatively large scale amongst Smash players thanks to that early leak with Steve, Doomguy, and Ryu Hayabusa.
Henry Foster
I too have fallen for this trap brother. It's like they always say: Expect the best but prepare for the worst.
I want one too. I'm too poor for the McFarlane figures so an amiibo would be great
Jaxson Wilson
No clue. I guess if there's enough demand, they can probably get a legal team to sort it all out. Not for HM specifically, but it's been lumped in with a SUPERHOT port by insiders for a while now. SUPERHOT got confirmed yesterday when Nintendo pushed out a patch on their servers
Gabriel Adams
What would he do in Doom Eternal?
Connor Wilson
Well it didn't bother Nintendo since Hines showed up in their official podcast
Eli Evans
something useless. Because if it's anything good, people will riot.
Oliver Turner
>Chaingunner AT >Sits in the background and keeps shooting a random player, keeping them stunlocked until they die
Hopefully nothing. I buy amiibo's en mass and I hate game's locking shit behind them.
Landon Evans
this is it Yea Forums, i'm just gonna end it here, I dont think I can take this shit anymore. >epstien shit has me freaking out >just lost 3k in stocks >family wants to kill me >keep hearing niggers and homos giggling 10 feet from my window every night >get gang stalked every single day >older brother has recently came out as a tranny and has admitted he has sexual feelings for me Since you guys have always been my favorite board, and kept me entertained. I'll return the favor. I'll be streaming my suicide in about 10 minutes. In the mean time, I shall answer any questions, suggestions, etc
>inb4 go out in a blaze of glory No, not going to ruin other peoples lives. >inb4 why dont you make your own thread ISP is blocked or some shit. so just posting this in first thread i see. >inb4 is there anything i can do to change your mind Nope, its Happening.
Well that's probably they did talk about it, but whether or not something came of it is up in the air.
Camden Martin
Probably something meh like a multiplayer skin or consumable.
Xavier Ward
Hero literally has a move called Kamikaze, an act the Japanese performed at Pearl Harbor, exactly 77 years to the day, before Smash Ultimate Released, on December 7th 1941
Owen Reyes
RIP user may you have a good few final hours.
Anthony Richardson
dude, don't do it you're too curious to die you're never gonna see how things end call a suicide hotline
Brody Johnson
*minutes
Isaiah Clark
>See you all soon. >~tmrh Wouldn't it be see you all later?
Cameron Jones
>SMASH IS TOTALLY MATURE BROS I SWEAR IT HAS MATURE THEMES AND NO NO WORDS AND BOOBIES Smash has been pussified and for kids from Tr4sh onwards after they dropped the T rating
Caleb Nelson
Sm4sh's last character was a literal stripper who sexually tortures angels for a hobby
Joseph Cox
obsessed rent free
Angel Bailey
Censored to hell because Tr4sh was rated E10 instead of T like Melee and Brawl were. Tr4sh and Dilatimate are inferior games for the zoomer generation, Nintendo's been pandering to SJWs and trannies ever since the Wii U.
Daniel Rivera
thoughts be cool costumes could be different masks move set could be god like
Asher Richardson
It's spam. The signature is just random characters that he changes each post. He's been spamming the board for the past 20 minutes or so.
Carter Hill
Had a feeling it was fake considering he posted in another thread but with another gun image. So either 1) He wants to do a wombo combo or 2) He's just grabbing images off google
Daniel Scott
>Bayonetta is hated by western sois and feminists for being sexy >made Samus sexy which they also hated >they also hated the BOTW gerudo crossdresser guy who teaches link to crossdress because something something transphobic
>actually typing Dilatimate oh never mind i bit the bait
Aiden Robinson
how's the doom ports on the switch anyway? heard they fixed the log in bullshit
Isaac Powell
just lol at newfags falling for this
Josiah Mitchell
Doom 1 and 2 can now both be played on the Switch without the stupid log ins, but they're still terrible ports with bad audio.
Jordan Thompson
Although they screwed up again and now it softlocks you if you read the terms and conditions since there's no way to select "Accept"
Noah Jenkins
This Nobody wants pc shit in Smash, let alone garbage like Doom.
Easton Gray
Jesus Christ, Todd. It's two 24 year old games. How hard is it to just port them in it's original forms? Switch hackers already did it years ago.
Jack Scott
I'm not saying that Smash is mature, it's just that you're a retard that thinks the word "Doom" is too much for Smash
Is he really the type that would try to convince Nintendo to put Dovahkin in Smash over Doomguy?
Jace Smith
Probably not since even he knows Doom is the only franchise bethesda hasn't ruined yet, so he'll probably want to milk it while he still can.
Ethan Campbell
I mean fuck for all we know Doom could be getting milked like a cow that has udders that have chocolate milk all because of Todd himself. Hard to get a read on that guy sometimes I swear to god.
I'd prefer the Doom marine but what the hell, I'll take Chief if I have to. He's cool.
Jason Brown
>Hard to get a read on that guy sometimes I swear to god. Probably one of the reasons Bethesda/Todd at E3 is always enjoyable, they're one of the few companies that flip flop so much you never know what to expect from them.
Adam Stewart
Doomguy takes out the amiibo in-game and plays with it.
