Where are all the isekai videogames?

There's a shit-ton of JRPGs, but they're all generic fantasy shit, with an in-universe protagonist. Isekai would fit perfectly for a videogame, since having direct control over the MC makes it easier to self-insert. How is isekai so popular as an anime genre, but almost nonexistent as a game genre?

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whats the difference between generic fantasy shit and generic fantasy shit but in the opening cutscene your character was moved from the real world into the generic fantasy shit world?

Isekai is more immersive, since the player's knowledge of the setting is equal to the protagonist's. If the protagonist is in-universe, it leads to people having to lecture the protagonist on the history and rules of the world so that they player can learn them, even though the protagonist should already know most of this stuff.

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Guess.

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that's how the intro level is for most games though.

Wouldn't it just be the same as playing a NG+ run with less loredumping?

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God fuck I want aqua to sit on me.

Same desu.

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I want to hold hands with this autist

Army of Darkness: Defense and the maxtrix games

Ni No Kuni?

Scalebound was going to be one.
>Speaking of the protagonist of the story, players would have been in control of a fashionably questionable young man named Drew. While his in-game backstory remained sparse, the character of Drew was born when Platinum desired to increase the players sense of immersion while in the world of Draconis. Drew was from our reality, a young man thrust into a foreign and hostile fantasy world, and like many young people around Drew’s age his character was reckless and hot-headed, a result of the overestimation of his youth. From the footage we had of the game in-action, this certainly seemed to be an important theme that would have been explored in the final game.

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It's a lazy way to make the main character more relatable. It's also wish fulfilment for weebs that feel like their regular everyday knowledge of the modern world would make them genius in a pre-industrial society.

I guess TWEWY and KH could count as Isekai

It's for retards

There is no point. What would a fantasy game gain from the protagonist being isekai'd?

Is there any isekai where the world is not a videogame or follows video game rules?

Unepic is an isekai Metroidvania. It's ok but I think The Messenger pulls it off better.

That's what I said.

Yeah, NNK2 is the only fantasy isekai that comes to mind honestly and even then it's about a freakin president with a gun being transported to miyazaki world so he could teach a lion prince to be a man...it's not as weird as it sounds, okay.

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that makes no sense just play an rpg as it is holy fuck

you are literally fucking braindead
stupid fucking retard
anime watching faggot
stagnant human being
no value

>op

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Did you not play Cheetahmen?

Ironically, this was a pretty common thing 20-30 years ago. The entire Ultima franchise had you (the player) as the protagonist, teleported to the world of Britannia. This meant a couple of things, such as you becoming the Avatar in U4 and are known as the Avatar in later games, or facts about the world you learned in one game can end up being true in later games. Well, until U9.

Wizardry involved a party of characters from another world, frequently literally, so they could be whatever you imagined. StarTropics had the kid being a main character from the "mainland" being invited to C-Island and having a wild journey there. Earthbound, and even the first Pokemon, started you off as an unnamed kid who just moved into town and then set off exploring to have the game adventure. Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon similarly have you showing up from nowhere, with some contrived excuse, to just start performing the game. There's also Lost in Blue. Heck, the Broadcast Satellaview had you make your own character and travel into the games it featured as the main protagonist.

The main reason it fell out of favor is the more cinematic style of storytelling meant more emphasis on the story of the main character - which requires there to actually be a main character, not a blank slate. It's very hard so self-insert or to have the MC's reactions be reasonable expectations when they are their own character with screentime devoted to their personality. It also fell out of favor for much the same reason; most VG players now think of the silent protagonist as "bad" and think that the protag should have their own character and own voice in the games. See how much people bitch about Silent Link.

I wish it would have still come out even if it would’ve been bad from microsoft’s medding. There’s too few dragon games that i would have still tried it

Final Fantasy X
Dragon Quest III
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
.hack

Not strictly isekai, but all of them involve a fish-out-of-water protagonist getting trapped in an unfamiliar world.

I remember when the isekai trend started in light novels then it slowly moved to manga then anime and now there's practically a few new isekai shows a season.

I'm surprised they havent tried cashing in on this by implementing it into their games yet because I honestly can think of a single one that does that light novel shit

>.hack
>not a isekai

play Crosscode.

SIGN is the only clear-cut case. Both Kite and Haseo can just turn the game off whenever they want, and Haseo was already a veteran of the game, so he's not even a fish out of water.

Yeah, there's a bit of a stretch with that list since 2 of them are going from fantasy world to another similar fantasy world, 2 are time travel, and hack is vrmmo

Before it got canned it looks like microsoft wanted this to be an online co-op monster hunter type shit.

So on one hand, I'm pissed because I was really looking forward to some platinum games+dragon rider stuff but microsoft likely wouldve fucked the game up beyond recognition.

when VR gets more depth and is more easily accessible, JP devs will start making isekai type games

I'm a manga expert and Isekai are trash 99% of the time. Out of the literal 6,000+ that were created this decade, only about 10 of them are good. That's 1 in 600. In other words, you'll have an easier time finding a Rod of Discord than you will finding a good Isekai.

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Koei Tecmo trademarked "Isekai Musou" so you've got that to look forward to at least.

There was a crossover musou earlier but it's mechanics are flawed

The worst part is is that One Punch Man would've been the best fit with the Musou genre out of any anime, and yet it's stuck with a shitty 3D arena anime fighter instead of the Hero vs Monster Musou it so rightly deserves, and shitty Isekai get a crossover Musou made by KT themselves.

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who will be the first big Japanese dev to make a VR isekai game that strokes the player's ego by making (You) the OP protagonist? who will be the first one to let you actually fuck your party members?

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The ES series is the closest thing I can think to be an Isekai (and the lore even somewhat accomodates it), just think about it:
>You awake with no recollection of your past (unless you're RPing) or knowledge of the world (unless you're a full on lorefag)
>The world is going to shit and it just turns out you're the one who can save it
>People tell you about really well known divine beings while you have no idea they even exist
>You slowly assimilate the world around you and your "destiny"

Feels pretty isekai to me.

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Take a regular low-effort waifufag pandering anime game like Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and slap a 1-minute cutscene on the front of it where the main character says they're an average everyday japanese person in the real world before suddenly getting sucked into a portal.

There you go, instant isekai.

The thing about thevopm game is that it kinda goes against the whole punchline of the show. A musou where he's curbstomping hordes woukd be much cooler but when it cones to anime games, areba fighters are the safest bet.

I really don't want any more musous or arena fighters. Do the studios have some blank gameplay templates that makes these two genres most convenient for licenced games, or something?

>One of video games main features is being able to play as whatever character, creature or thing the game allows you
>Even normalfags acknowledge this and praise it
>Weebs and hikikomoris only want to play as themselves
Modern weebs were a mistake

FFTA exists.
Of course it wouldn't be popular even during the current isekai craze because the MC isn't a fucking loser who just wants to lose them self in escapism and actually drags his loser friends back to reality.

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Why are people so triggered by isekai existing?

No argument there. Isekais have gone full circle and back and it's still garbage.

There were a few that I considered enjoyable for being a parody of the genre(like konosuba) or a "deconstruction" like Re:Zero(where the MC is a weak idiot) or Grimgar(where teenagers realistically get their asses handed to them by goblins and learn that RPG worlds suck) but yeah still 99.9% garbage.

I guess the investors/devs dont see isekai as a safe bet to develop a game around. As a book publisher you can pay mangaka/ln writers literal peanuts in comparison and if it actually sells the anime will make itself.

Now do the same with romance or action and you will get a similar number

digimon, konosuba and overlord are the only good isekais ever made. the rest is pure garbage.

This is isekai.

Technically.

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FFTA is more of the "going from one fantasy world to another even weirder fantasy world" ala FFX and (to an extent)KH.

The message of ffta is pretty relevant in todays isekai trend.

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I fully accept this argument for a wide range of (mostly RPG) titles.
Unless one of you can convincingly argue against this, OP will have converted me to an Isekai fag.

Never you mind that competent world building doesn't have to have exposition dumps and the world can be built slowly around the course of the adventure.

Granted, most RPGs have your character start in some dung heap town in the middle of fucking nowhere, only going on an adventure because the villain burned it down. So the hero usually has about as much knowledge of the world as the player does anyway.

I think the popularity of Isekai can be explained by pointing out that it's really easy to write (pretty much every damn Isekai plagiarizes the good ones heavily), and they can get away with making the MC a blank slate instead of developing their personality and them as a character.

Good Isekais:
>Shield Hero
MC has an actual personality and isn't just a nice guy. Plot actually goes somewhere, the MC isn't the strongest guy in the world, and he doesn't get a harem (not for a while, at least in the original Web Novel)
>Mairimashita Iruma-Kun
Incredibly unique compared to the other Isekai. Doesn't take place in "another world", but rather the demon realm. MC has his own personality, and he earns his lot in the world instead of being gifted a "cheat" or a harem
>Strongest Sage
Clear emphasis on world building, MC isn't a blank slate, and it makes good use of him being near god-like thanks to him reincarnating in a world much weaker than the one he came from.

Hell, you can tell if an Isekai is good or not by just reading the first chapter and seeing if the MC is just not-Kirito (avoid) or unique (read 5 chapters and see if its good). 99% of them are fucking Kirito rip-offs, though, and it fucking blows.

Absolutely not. The situation is kinda dire for romance, but if you cut out shoujo, yaoi, and yuri, you've got a ratio of 1 good to every 4 bad instead of 1 to 600.

No one samples Isekai at random, though. Not that your argument is actually based on this interesting piece of statics, but it'd be safe to assume that the popular Isekai stories have some quality that appeals to its audience, since they manage to convince others to read/watch it.

>well it doesn't count if I cut out these other sub-genres I don't like
Come on now

Skyrim

It's hard to find good new Isekai among the sea of swill. It took me an actual year of searching to find The Coffee Shop in a Different World Station because it was hiding within a mountain of shit.

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I think the single most irritating thing an isekai does is having stat menus.
The only time it hasn't pissed me off was in that spider one, Shiro is a good girl even if she is terror incarnate.

It's pretty easy to sort out the shit that's for girls/fags though. It's not like you're going to run into shoujo manga when reading a weekly shonen series, nor are you likely to run into BL.

>Good Isekai
>Shield Hero

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Haven't you played the Isekai game to end all Isekai games? The citizen kane of Isekai?

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t. Spear Hero

>Implies.
t. Knave.

Hey man in its defense. I think it's perfectly fine as a guilty pleasure. It's not what I would say good but it's okay enough for a seasonal.

>Good Isekais
>doesn't list No Game No Life

Spider is pretty good, yeah. And I wholeheartedly agree with the stat-menu thing. I cringe whenever it comes up. Shield Hero did stat menus alright, mostly because it ignores them more often than not and focuses on non-numerical battle strategies. But then you get "MUH CHEATS" Isekai and the MC just has to have 100x greater stats than everyone else, making it a shitty version of One Punch Man without the tension OPM manages to have even with a ludicrous MC. This one page from One Punch Man has more tension than every single Isekai with a stat menu + cheat power.

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>Feudral or Time Travel Isekai
Kino
>Fantasy Isekai
FUCKING TRASH ALL THE TIME

How do Fantasycucks even live with themselves?

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no game no life

Just because every Isekai that came out after it basically started being Chinese knock-offs of it doesn't mean it's bad. It did most of the modern Isekai-tropes first, and it did them extremely well.

Yun-yunny

You're obviously very dedicated and knowledgeable about isekai. Thank you for sharing your expertise. Too bad it doesn't appear to be getting translated at a reasonable rate.

Amen brother

Don't go putting words on my mouth. user. That's gay

>Japanese MC gets isekai'd to a medieval fantasy setting
>they still have fucking hot spring baths
Because you can't have an anime without a fucking hot spring/beach episode, can you?

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sauce?

Eminence in Shadow is always good for a laugh even if only because its ridiculous.

I think you might be retarded

user please

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NGNL, Shield Hero, KonoSuba, Kemonomichi, Iruma-kun, spider-chan, Strongest Sage, Coffee Shop in Another World, Mushoku Tensei, Re:Zero, and Tanya

Am I missing anything? I think that just about covers all the good ones.

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>Set in an era that has a not-Roman empire.
>Doesn't do the logical thing and use local bathhouses.
Bikinis are the worst offenders.

isekai is just the modern way of doing "everything goes back to Japan". It's like when you play a Japanese game not set in Japan. The game will go out of it's way to remind you about how great Japan or some particular aspect of the country. The consumer base of these products generally have no idea about anything non-japanese so it's extremely hard to keep them interested without some guy giving a comparison to a Japanese counterpart. For example:

>"We are going to celebrate our hunting festival! Come help us chad-kun"
>"I don't know anything about this hunting festival stuff but the booth their building looks a lot like the Japanese festival stalls of glorious nippon."

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Hey, let's not forget about all those hot spring inns littering Europe and the Americas during the medieval time periods.

Does Overlord count as an isekai? I wouldn't mind a game where you somehow get into that world and ends up a minion for whatever side you chose. Character creation a la Black Desert of course.

Eminence in Shadow and that Paladin one where he was raised by undead.

Got bland pretty fast. The premise by itself is pretty good but weebs these days are spineless fags, so at the end you end up with the same mix of self inserting shit, harem shit and japanese sitcom shit where nothing interesting happens ever.
No game no life doesn't count because the MC is actually a Chad with a neet look. Also, it does what original Yu-gi-oh did, that's why is good.

Yeah, Overlord is Isekai.
Even if the other world is a game its still an Isekai.
Log Horizon counts too and the first part of SAO also counts.

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You forgot the actual good ones. You also listed some shit ones. Might wanna try again.

>Digimon season 1
>Digimon Frontier episode 50
Wait a minute....

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Such is the nature of LH translations. It's damn relaxing, though. Put on some Miyazaki-movie music (Kiki's Delivery Service especially) and enjoy the ultimate comfy.

youtube.com/watch?v=vD1yAEWpzeQ

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You literally just described regular and battle harems which were popular for years and had the exact same complaints from idiots like you.

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I'm not wikipedia and I don't know every anime that has ever existed

Definitely, the only difference from KonoSuba being Momo already had a sweet max level avatar to reincarnate as instead of his lousy IRL self like Scumzuma

How new are you? Lurk the fuck more retard

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Didn't Koei recently trademark an isekai musou?

You know it's a good isekai when it feels like a regular fantasy manga instead

How the fuck is that a good thing? It makes the Isekai aspect totally useless.

...Eh, shield hero, I enjoyed the beginning, I like that it was a different take on the "summoned hero" trope but it eventually goes into generic isekai territory by making him the "I'm the underdog but I'm OP at thecsame time", everyone but him is an idiot, and let's be honest, he eventually gets a harem too.

Iruma-kun, is fine since it's more of a "dude gets sent to hell" premise, and it's more of a comedy slice of life than an escapist power fantasy like the rest of them.

Strongest sage, I only read a bit of the manga but MC is "reincarnated" as an OP child and goes back to school where he can show off how OP he is while getting a harem of school girls despite him mentally being an old man on the inside.

As long as an mc isnt OP or a bland kirito then I'm usually fine with isekai. But it's embarrassing how many fail to meet suchba low bar.

They did but they're releasing PW4 next year so it's gonna be a while before an isekai musou shows up

>medieval people didn't have hot water

you're a retard

I wholeheartedly agree. Especially if it doesn't involve guilds, stat screens, and cheats.

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That's because all anime trends, at least the ones with a shonen demographic, end up in the same way: self inserting + harem + nothing ever interesting happening.

Then why the fuck are you reading isekai?

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based terrariaanalogyposter

Just off the top of my head;

Star Ocean
Final Fantasy X
.Hack
Like, half the Mario games
Link's Awakening
Majora's Mask
Turtles in Time
Literally every visual novel made by Winged Cloud

>Not strictly isekai

What's the difference between Isekai and just a generic fish-out-of-water story?

>Japanese MC gets isekai'd to a medieval fantasy setting
>"durr I'm gonna use my superior nippon steel katana to show these armored knights how much better my thin and fragile blade is against their dull garbage"

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The Shield Hero isn't OP, though. Most of his "power" comes from his OP sidekicks that outclass him. He's actually relatively underpowered compared to not!Kirito and Spear Hero, but he actually trains and they don't. Also, 2 daughterfus that love him like a father does not equal a harem.

>but MC is reincarnated as an OP child and goes back to school
He was OP in his previous life, too. As per the title, he was the strongest sage in his time and was born with a body with severely limited growth potential, so he commits sudoku to teleport into the future, only to find that humanity is struggling to get back on its feet because SPOILERS it's actually post-apocalypse and went from being a Final-Fantasy-esque Magitech advanced world to being a barely feudal Medieval society with a pretty well explained and detailed world.

>As long as an mc isnt OP or a bland kirito then I'm usually fine with isekai. But it's embarrassing how many fail to meet suchba low bar.
Yeah, I'm with you. Strongest Sage would normally only be a 7.5/10, but against the backdrop of all the SAO-rehashes, it looks like an amazing 9/10 story comparatively. It doesn't stack up to masterpieces like Komi-san, One Punch Man, or HunterxHunter, but compared to everything else in its genre, it somehow manages to be a breath of fresh air even with the biggest Gary Stu MC.

The only isekai aspect in that manga was the how the guy came to the new world and his wife turned into a catgirl. No generic RPG elements either.

It's just a weird thing to be all hyped about as a new thing. The genre has been around literally as long as fiction itself, so calling it the HOT NEW THING is just...weird.

Isekai aren't just foot-in-the-door affairs.
In .hack you're just playing an MMO, you can log out at any time and will do so regularly. Lots of fantastical shit is happening but its not really an isekai, Kite can always escape at any time by logging out.
He isn't trapped there and the MMO isn't a real place, it is strictly virtual.

>attacking the girl with the non sharp end
dude deserved to lose

If grorious nihonese samurai aren't OP, how can you explain Atomic Samurai being the 5th strongest hero in all of One Punch Man?

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>MC gets isekai'd into 1400's Europe
>Teaches them about crop rotation
>No one points out that crop rotation has been around since 6,000 fucking BC

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If he was so OP then why isn't he the 1st strongest?

Nigger. Read my point again.

This changes the formula enough that I keep forgetting it's an isekai. It's a shame the chapters come out so fucking slowly.

But user, most of the playable characters of those games have defined personalities and motivations, you can't really self-insert as most of them, and that's actually a good thing.

Honestly, self-inserting in a video game is only cool when the game is Wizardry tier or something like that, with brutal difficulties.

It had been, but crop rotation as an idea was mostly nonexistent during Medieval Europe, and had mostly been forgotten. That's why yields were so low and Medieval Europeans were the shortest people in European history. Immediately after crop rotation was reimplemented, heights went up an average of 3 inches the very next generation.

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it's crazy how different prime digimon was from other isekais even though it was made way before isekai became a trend.
most isekais are gary stu wish fulfillment fantasies. digimon in its prime was like a group therapy session in the middle of a war zone.

He's the highest ranking weapon user. 3 of the 4 people stronger than him are all really good at punching things, and the 4th is Tatsumaki.

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Isekei is a garbage series.

Honestly. If an Isekai feels like a "generic" Isekai it's usually trash. They all follow the same formula without any charm and writes like a high schoolers self insert.

There's some good ones shown in the thread

>MC suggests designs for machines like water pumps or even steam engines
>Somehow skips over the hundreds of years of advancing metallurgy and forging techniques that would be necessary before a 12th-century farmer could even attempt to build the fucking thing

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I love when when this shit hapoens, it's just so stupid it's funny.

>"hey you uncivilized dark age motherfuckers, guess what? I just invented something called a 'sandwich' it will blow your mind forever!"

There's one where a dude gets rich for "inventing" shampoo and literally a few others where they get rich for inventing mayonaise.

doomguy got isekai'ed into hell

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Being a high-schoolers self insert is mostly the point

This is why mooks in For Honor are manlets

>Isekai guy introduces technology and other stuff
>He gets burned alive on the fucking stake in the middle of the town village.

Are we talking about Isekai or whatever this generic Isekai new term is?

This is true.

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers games maybe?

>Behold! I bring you... fire!
>We HAVE fire.

A fucking Martin Lawrence comedy is more internally consistent than most "real" isekai. Hell, it's a better isekai in general than most Japanese examples. Not as good as Army of Darkness, though.

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Most of them are written by Highschoolers or those who couldn't cut it writing for other genres. The audience is also mostly just Highschoolers.

Does Zipang count? Going back to an alternate past is kind of like an isekai.

Saihate no Paladin? I don't remember any reincarnation or transmigration shenanigans there, it's just pure fantasy. Not even very good fantasy, what with the MC banging not one but two gods by book two.

Why do I keep seeing Isekai shit everywhere recently. It's literally about as enchanting as "IT WAS ALL A DREAM LOL" after the first time you come across it. There's nothing wrong with a seperate tutorial or the main character themselves having thoughts about stuff/a journal to clue the player in, hell even just an ingame encyclopedia is more than adequate.

>.hack
>FFTA or A2
>Digimon

>"HURR DURR THEMS NOT ISUCKEYES"

So by definition, Yea Forums's idea of an Isekai is "anime gary stu gets transported to generic medieval fantasy world and has a harem"

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What are rules for something to be an Isekai?
1. Protagonist must be transfered from his original world to somewhere unfamilar is a given

Self-inserting is a pretty old term dude. It was probably invented between D&D game sessions and was exported to Japan with Wizardry and Ultima games.

Pretty much this. As long as it doesn't feel fanfiction kevel with middleschooler level of self insert power fantasy then I'm okay with it.

Re:zero is literally a cliche rpg world and the MC gets a super plot power BUT he's still a weak bitch who constantly gets humiliated, everyone treats him like an idiot since he doesn't know anything about the world, and hevalways needs help to accomplish anything.

Grimgar, a bunch of teenager get isekai'd into what's basically dark souls, they get theirvasses handed, some even die, and theybhaveva gsrd time living in a middle aged world without modern technology.

It's just weird seeing a lot of people on this thread say most of these Isekai stuff is good.

I never particularly considered almost anything named here good. Am I just too old for anime?

Because Sword Art Online and Konosuba got really popular, leading to every hack writer to try and rip them off, and every shitty LN publisher to option the rights off to whatever they can get in the hopes of striking gold again. It happens all the time in the anime/manga industry, but with it being easier than ever to publish a light novel or short doujin, the sheer volume is worse than ever.

>Saihate no Paladin?
That's the one.
I'm pretty sure its a reincarnation one.

I actually like guilds, but they're usually very poorly done. I've lost count of the number of times a manga practically opens with explaining adventurer ranks. It goes from E to S, we get it already.

Burning at the stake was relatively uncommon, and Medieval Peasants weren't actually retards. They were pretty knowledgeable and weren't actually superstitious retards. It wasn't until around the beginning of the Renaissance that Europeans became fanatical religious zealots. Arguably, most of that was due to the Black Plague.

Hey man, the Medieval Era was a post-apocalyptic society dealing with the ramifications of the strongest unifying force the world had seen up to that point (and for 13 centuries after). It was the European equivalent of the Fall Out universe, they lost a ton of technology.

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I know what self inserting is. I just assumed Isekai was anything where the protagonist gets forcefully transfered to another world. Does it really have to be self insert to be an Isekai?

Although Grimgar was good, I sometimes have questions over the writing. When one of the characters died they really really squeezed his death. They kept introducing death flags for the dude and after he got shot they had to bring him to the priest to confirm he was definitely going to die.

Now that this thread made me think about it, it could be kinda neat if your character could build stuff for himself from the real world that'd give him an advantage in the fantasy world. Like I think there's an anime where the dude has his smart phone and uses it to create Japanese furniture, guns and shit that he looks up off the internet and then he can fuck around using it in in the isekai world.

Anything that isn't an Adventurer's Guild is fine. Spice and Wolf, while not an Isekai, shows how good guilds can be to a plot.

No one says most Isekai is good. I listed the small handful of good ones earlier in the thread. Like any genre, there are some fantastic works in there just by their sheer quality. I hate Sports manga, but even I can see the appeal of Prince of Tennis. If you look long and hard enough, you can find great Isekai, but it takes a lot more effort than finding good manga of any other category.

>He follows Isekai that doesn't star big-titted demon queens.

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I don't really keep up to date on anime shit but didn't .hack do the whole Sword Art Online routine ages ago, and isn't Sword Art pretty old itself now?

Isekai is anything with mc being sent to another world. This can vaguely mean anything from science fiction, time travel, alternate history etc

But nowdays its more well known for anything that's in an "RPG/game world" and maybe a loser mc from our boring world going there

Black knight truly was ahead of its time. Army of darkness was hilarious

>mfw best weebword thing is actually western Nomad Soul

>Does it really have to be self insert to be an Isekai?
No, but its very easy self-insert bait to do because of the simple premise and how often the "normal everyday guy" gets isekaid.
Then you have cases where the MC is the garyest of stus and was perfect even before getting the kick.
Rogue Hero is an example of this, even worse because he goes back after for isekai round 2. Though his enemies are a legitimate threat I guess?

There've been Isekai games since before the target demographic of modern Isekai was born. Kohime Musou is great, and that was one of the first Isekai out there.

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You know.
Why hasn't there been a Isekai MMO?

Alice in Wonderland is the first Isekai. Unless you count the Bible. It's just easier to use the Japanese term for the genre instead of calling it "Born in Another World"

IIRC where the MC came from stays a mystery, the undead just picked up a baby one day and that was that. No memories of a past life, zero implications he came from a different world, nothing pointing towards reincarnation. Just surprise babby. It's technically possible he's revealed to be something or other later on, but so far there's no isekai elements in that one.

posers get out

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There is one
It's called Mabinogi.

>every single reclusive, super-powerful character in the story hovers around MC sucking his dick
>all so they can get access to his superior nippon cooking (folded 1000000 times)
>multiple chapters of nothing but them jerking off the mc's mayo and/or onions sauce

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Yeah, grimgar has its glarring faults but I was more lenient on it just for not being another cliche power fantasy, as in you actually did not want to be in their shoes because these kids were suffering. But it was funny that they expected their healer to be a tank and were shocked when they got him killed

The point behind Iseaki is that you got warped to the online game fantasy land in the first place.

I forgot if Kagome just fucks off back to her time and never returns will it affect anything?

Maison ikkoku is her best work btw.

I want to lovingly bully Yunyun!

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>I forgot if Kagome just fucks off back to her time and never returns will it affect anything?
Nope
She's also a femcel because Inuyasha never tapped that because muh kikyo.

Not a hard rule, but falling into a dimension portal, getting summoned by a hero summoning ritual, or dying in his original world (hello truck-kun) and being reincarnated into a different world are the usual generic isekai starts.

Related and similarly shitty, but not isekai, are stories where the MC meets a bad end, surprise time travels to his own past, and gets to do everything over again. Usually this involves revenge against people who haven't even done anything yet.

I just want an MMO that takes the best of .hack and Log Horizon.

.hack from what I recall only really did that shit pretty late game unless you count the whole triedge pk coma shit in the trilogy

Honestly I think the best Isekai is when a group of people get isekai'd at once. Of course there are exceptions to that rule dungeon seeker you piece of shit .

Best Isekai "game" coming through!

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Oh yeah there's that new saga manga.

>hero defeats demon king but lost everything he knew and is dying
>finds strange crystal
>travelled to 4 years ago or something

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Its rare that ever works properly and one in that group usually ends up as the MC.
The same is true of everything from Shield Hero to Kumoko and even that one with the rape bugs.

Sorry you've only read shit Isekai.

We dont TALK about ultima 9...

Nah bro fuck off. Here's the best Isekai game right here.

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But Shield is okay and Kumoko is fantastic when she eats her mother and evolves into a greater form.
When she becomes Shiro things get really good.

Dog Days was fun.

I'd like to take this moment to shill a chinese webnovel, Unruly Phoenix Xiaoyao. It's an isekai, where the main character comes from a zombie apocalypse world instead of modern earth, and lands in the middle of fantasy china imperial court political shenanigans. Following someone who's really good at healing people and punching zombies trying to figure out how to etiquette and politics is bretty good. Also the writing style is funny, and there's occasional author comments mixed in. Dude keeps getting upset at his own characters which I find hilarious.

SMTnigger that's not even an Isekai game.
This on the other hand....

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Can anyone redpill me on any of these?

Drifters is from the guy that made Hellsing, historical figures land on a fantasy world and must do battle.
The main villain is implied to be Jesus Christ.

ANOTHER WORLDDDDD
IT MAY RAIN ALWAYS

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>literally a few others where they get rich for inventing mayonaise.
You mean where a girl invents mayonnaise and is then sent to prison for life because people were allergic to it?

>KH
>Star Ocean
>Chrono Trigger/Cross
>FFTA
>.Hack
>Digimon
>Super Robot Taisen: Endless Froniter/Exceed
>Namco X Capcom
>Project X Zone/2
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games
>Hyrule Warriors
>Majora's Mask
>your favorite anime's shitty VN
>Xenoblade X
HELLO…? IS THIS THING ON? AM I ALL ALONE?
IS ANYONE THERE?
I NEED A BIGGER GUN HELP IF YOU CAN

PLEASE WAKE ME UP
NOT TO SOUND CLICHE
BUT THIS WORLD SUCKS!

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WE CLAIM THIS THREAD IN THE NAME OF SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI! ISEKAI ZOOMERS GO HOME.

There's two there that I've been following and can recommend.
7 Seeds is a (minor spoilers) post apocalyptic earth story. Shit went tits up, a long time passes, and the main cast emerges from cryosleep. Involves exploring various ruins, meeting things that could wipe out the entire cast if things went wrong, and lots of grudges based on a world long gone. Good stuff.

Drifters is basically Quantum Leap, but with a bunch of agents kidnapped from various time periods.

>>Xenoblade X
Doesn't count, interstellar travel isn't Isekai its sci-fi.
Isekai is more like parallel works or more specific "dual world fantasy".

Watched it with jap dub a few years ago and absolutely loved just how serious it took itself for a kids cartoon. They were still dumb goofy kids but you really had the feelings these kids were close to dying every day they were in the Digital World.

WE DID IT GUYS. ONE MORE THREAD REJECTED! WOO

Not just a kid's cartoon, you also need to keep in mind that it was also originally supposed to be what essentially amounts to a 13 episode commercial for the V-Pets, and had a shoestring budget on top of that. The fact that Adventure turned out as great as it did is nothing short of a miracle.

>Drifters is basically Quantum Leap, but with a bunch of agents kidnapped from various time periods.
That's a bad way of putting it honestly.
Its more accurate to say a battle royal with different historical figures but even that is way off base.

Honestly just a basic premise of the plot, a man in white and a woman in black choose a fantasy world to send people to.
The man in white's reps are called Drifters.
The woman in black's reps are called Ends.
Bearing in mind that neither side are really "good" and the conflict is just one massive war between the Drifters and the Ends with the various races helping out because they don't like the monsters burning down their kingdoms.

Oh yeah there's that one too. But no, there's a lot where the MC reinvents modern japanese cuisine and everyone fucking loves it every damn time.

Notable exception being Mushoku Tensei, where people keep telling the MC his strange cooking is ok but not their kind of thing.

>Isekai is more like parallel works or more specific "dual world fantasy".
you've been watching too many anime. Isekai is where a main character being transported into another world. The planet Mira is literally an Isekai (different world).

there is final fantasy tactic though

Koihime Musou is a VN/hentai game/war game where you go between battling rival Chinese warlords and fucking them.

I love Xenoblade X, man, but it ain't Isekai. The main character didn't even exist on Earth, they were created on Mira, like Yelv.

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Tactics isn't a Isekai you dipshit.
tactics advance is though.

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"Isekai" literally just means "different world", so any story where the characters go to a different world is Isekai. The characters don't even need to start on or end on "Earth" either, for it to honestly count.

In a literal sense yes, but not really in the sense that Isekai applies to as a genre.
Xenoblade X had interstellar travel to colonise a different planet, that isn't an Isekai that's just sci-fi. Despite it being on a different planet.

Its a minor difference but despite taking place on a different planet it isn't an Isekai.

wtf this isn't a yunyun thread

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Isekai isn't strictly fantasy either.

West did isekai first before it was cool.

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This is true but the stories of being reincarnated into an advanced civilisation are few and far between.
I think the Death Mage's opening chapters had that but he was mostly confined to a prison cell.

An Isekai may be Sci-fi but interstellar travel doesn't automatically make a story taking place on wherever the ship lands an isekai.

>you play as a generic rpg protagonist in a generic rpg world
>the big bad kills you in a scripted cutscene
>get isekai'd to real life
>have to find your way back to your generic rpg fantasy world before the big bad fucks everything up.
>multiple endings including, successfully returning, failing to return in time, becoming successful in the real world then forgetting to return, and grinding enough to not die in the beginning so you can just stay in the fantasy world

>starts off as an exciting, high-stakes, sword and sorcery fantasy RPG
>immediate hard cut to an oddly peaceful sim game once you get isekai'd

Were I going into this game blind, I'd honestly have no idea how to feel about this.

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>So by definition, Yea Forums's idea of an Isekai is "anime gary stu gets transported to generic medieval fantasy world and has a harem"
So Yea Forumss definition is the correct definition then?

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>reincarnated
so a "tensei" story can still be considered "Isekai" while a Sci-fi story can't.
Both are methods of transportation to a new world.

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it doesn't need to be a high fantasy world, the only requirement is that it's a world different from their own.
you could argue that any fish-out-of-water story qualifies as an isekai but you'll get purists complaining about being in an entirely different environment isn't good enough.

Haven't you heard? DQV is an isekai now.


In all seriousness though. I doubt any of the stablished jrpg IPs are interested in isekai mcs. Best bet would be an entirely new IP.

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The US did Isekai in excess decades ago. Shit is old for us now.
youtu.be/ueTc6jhl-1I

Ha, no kidding. The worst cliche is when the MC cooks up Japanese cuisine and it's somehow THE BEST FOOD EVER.

Like, I enjoy Japanese food as much as the next weeb, but realistically most people in a fantasy setting wouldn't enjoy it as they wouldn't be used to the sort of spices etc. Plus there's a lot of Japanese food that is overrated (wow, a breaded and fried chicken cutlet, sugoi).