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THIS WILL BE GRAPHICS IN 2014

>wow wild pokemon
>near urban landscape

because it worked out for zelda with TP

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This is honestly peak UI.

>nintentards secretly want their games to look like sony games
I should be surprised but I'm not.

It's a good UI but I agree that it just looks so fucking empty
Where are my massive pokemon roaming in the distance the size of buildings

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You'll need based Monolith Soft for that

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NINTENDO

>games are going to be amazing in the future I cant wait

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It hurts

Literally Shadow of the Colossus, I like it

It is soulless as fuck

Good because it's the gameplay you're getting

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depresing

I wish

I'm not going to imagine because this is fucking stupid. Pokemon is best when it feels small and cozy not huge and full of nothing.

>open world bad
>cheap game good

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>what if we took X and made it into a dark souls or botw? XD
Dude lmao now this is epic

yikes

can you imagine if they made WoW into a souls like? Now THAT'S how you save your game blizzard

cringe

Your mother is a soulless whore

how about fixing the gameplay first, for starters?
who am I kidding ever since the Switch happened, seems like everyone turned into graphicfags.

Fuck that looks cool.

I know...

It's already full of nothing despite being small.

Post your sword and shield pre-order.

You'll buy it anyway.

No I won't.

Pocket Stranding, coming exclusively to Nintendo Statation 5

Normally I’d laugh at HIRE THIS MAN posts but for Game Freak it’s serious. You guys have no staff as is you should unironiclly Hire this man and several dozen other men

>Normally I’d laugh at HIRE THIS MAN posts
Some of them genuinely look great but people like you shitpost about them just because they became a me. If game freak actually made something this people would lose their minds, but because it's a meme we get faggots like this

NINTENDO, HIRE THIS MAN

NHTM

epic

Hire this man, for the love of god

ecks dee

NINTENDO

I'm not a hardcore fan of either but I would play the fuck out of a Dark Souls/Pokemon fusion

I'm being serious here.

Pokemon skyrim

Looks like death Stranding

S O U L

GAMEFREAK

KILL

YOURSELF

you're still okay sometimes Yea Forums

>tfw no game like this with Nier Automata style movement and combat and fluidity
>as well as a Tribes ground slide for fast traversal of vast lands and cities

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this is just Shadow of the Colossus, I don't even understand what the core gameplay is.

Explore an immense region, visit big cities and small towns, learn their culture, make friends, create new bonds, make yourself stronger and face legends that want to test your limits.

pokemon/raidou kuzunoha/shadow of the colossus game when

Pokémon has enough money to make it real.

>gets asked for core gameplay
>proceeds to list a bunch of gay story shit
never make games

BOTW was in development for 6-7 years. Game Freak has to shit out a new Pokemon game every year. As long as GF is in charge this will never happen. Now if Nintendo came in and told Monolith Soft to develop this on the side maybe it would be feasible but this is never ever going to happen.

>>Explore an immense region, visit big cities and small towns
>>proceeds to list a bunch of gay story shit
Are you all right?

Spin-off?

sadly the games are still made for japanese 10 year olds so this shit will never happen

>Are
Look, I too can quote the only part of the post I want to make arguments ! And exploring is not a gameplay element

>games are still made for japanese 10 year olds
>never happen
I don't know, user, maybe in 5 years things will change, if you know what I mean...

Ok.... turn-based combat?

Hire him to do what? Take someone's environment concept art and then throw pokemon stuff at it?

Pretty sure they're on record saying spin-offs are for mobile. Nobody involved has any interest in pouring a ton of money and time in a game like this when they're current strategy had worked for over 25 years.

>Exploring is not a gameplay element
What's gameplay then? Go on, define it. The dogshit 4-move menu simulator that mainline Pokemon has been since the Gameboy games? No one plays Pokemon or any turn-based RPG for its "gameplay" to start with and if they do they're beyond braindead

Yeah, I'd imagine the games being relatively easy to pump out year after year is part of what makes them profitable

NOOOO the graphics need to be dogshit unlike those SNOY movie games so Nintendo puts our money towards this revolutionary gameplay
I eat shit btw

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NINTENDO

I just want Pokémon's potential to be exploited.

>No one plays any turn-based RPG for its gameplay
You have no idea what you're talking about. Pokemon being bad doesn't mean all turn based RPG are shit. There's a lot of people who like to just wait and plan strategies. And we can even go back to Pokemon, explain the Smogon community and the constant 2000 players on showdown if they're all playing for the story.
>What's gameplay then?
What I do with my controller in hands. Like it or not "4-move menu simulator" the gameplay of Pokemon

You can have strategic turn-based combat and a beautiful and deep world to explore, both are not mutually exclusive.

Most turn-based RPGs are completely braindead and devoid of any strategy, Pokemon most of all. You can just spam your strongest attack with type advantages to get through the main story, and PvP is just flowchart shit with everybody copying synergy. People who argue that turn-based RPGs have some grand complex big brain strategy behind them are lying to themselves because I've not played one yet and would much rather play an engaging reaction-based game, or at least an ARPG.

The sheer number of pokemon is what would make a project like this impossible. Like, even having just 150(not necessarily the original 150, just 150 period) and recycling the animations they've been using since XY, they'd still need to add some new stuff for pokemon to believably mesh with the environment rather than just robotically following you like an MMO pet. Even a short list like climbing, resting, and idly examining their environment is hundreds of new animations to add.

And yeah, they've got the budget for it. They absolutely COULD make something like this if they wanted to, but there's no passion in the people holding the series' leash.

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Never said it was. Exploring would still not be called core gameplay though
>Most turn-based RPGs are completely braindead and devoid of any strategy
Yes.
>People who argue that turn-based RPGs have some grand complex big brain strategy behind them are lying
I don't know all of them but there are surely some. You could just release a copy paste of chess or go, slap some story elements and additionnal numbers on it and release that tomorrow. It would be classified as a turn based RPG and you couldn't argue that the game is for c󠛡u󠛡m󠛡b󠛡r󠛡a󠛡i󠛡ns because it would just be Chess+. And I'm pretty sure that we already have some games that are really complex to play PvP but they must be hidden somewhere because people didn't give a fuck

Look at all the game content in that screen! A game like that totally won't be filled with empty space like all the other open world games!

Sooo... why are people okay with all these entitled fucks trying to dictate how a company makes their games?

Why are people okay with these devs that hate the franchise stifling and actively sabotaging it's potential?

We probably could have had this kind of game by now if Kantofucks didn't fucking complain about the direction Pokemon was taking during Platinum and Black&White.
Now we have GameFreak churning out shit like Sun and Moon and LetsGo! instead to appeal to your drab millenial childhoods that you can't fucking move on from.
Good job fools.

Anybody other than Nintendo making Nintendo games can only be a good thing.

Shadow of the Fug

Platinum sold great. It's only BW1 that sold like shit because they only let you use the region pokemon for a huge part of the adventure which sucked dick.

I'd prefer it because it's something different atleast

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BW1 sold more than 15M

>entitled
Read a book, you ignorant son of a bitch.

Why are these kinds of large scale environments never done in video games? The only games I can think of that do this are Shadow of the Colossus and Destiny.

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I remember growing up on Pokemon Red and Crystal thinking that the games still had some merit them even as far as BW.
But holy fuck, I distinctively remember the fucking hostility towards the changes over the years in the game's because some neckbeard basement dweller thought the designs and everything was nothing but ass the whole time, screaming that they should have never changed the series and kept the games exactly the same.
I was only a kid and knew better: it was the equivalent of baby-tier thinking and knew it would only cause problems.

Now look at the fucking state of the series.

Because faggots like the ones in here call them empty as fuck and complain on social media that its empty and theres nothing to do.

Can you fags seriously just let go of Pokemon already. There's other RPGs. Better ones.

Because nice views are cool and all but actually putting stuff in them is hard

it looks like shit, kys faggot

no u

t. Kanto faggot who can't let go of his past and wants GameFreak to do nothing but shitty fucking Kanto every fucking time.

I don't want to imagine, it hurts knowing this series will never see even half of its potential because GF has no incentive to put any effort in while everyone still eats it up. Maybe we'll see early PS3 graphics a few generations from now.

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kys James

Pokemon is just a simple turn based RPG they don't need all this shit

I honestly wish Nintendo will buy up GameFreaks share in Pokemon and then let Monolithsoft make one.
Imagine what Pokemon could be with competent developers.

wait until Death Stranding comes out. Kojima is one of the few madmen crazy enough to do something like that

play smt then, faggot

NINTENDO

You mean making them interesting from a gameplay perspective? I think it's fine if there's a way of traversing all the empty space quickly, SotC seems to be regarded as one of the best video games of all time and Agro isn't even that fast.

>dude just make her a dyke lol and change nothing else haha
good exploration bro

So basically:

>BLAME! scale
>open world
>diverse biomes
>ecological simulation
>pokemon

yeeaaaaaaaaah, I'd like me some of that.

pokemon shitters need to be gassed

SMT is nothing like pokémon

neither is OPs pic

Gamefreak's not going to sell until it can create another profitable franchise. For now, the devs will keep sucking on this teat.

I imagine something like Monster Hunter World's ecosystem. Even fucking Pokemon Snap had the pokemon act according to their ecology.

NINTENDO

>that screencap

Also pokemon should never have realistic graphics, that would be fucking retarded. Breath of the wild style would be perfect.

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But it's what it can be.

Although it would be cool to have an SMT game with a semi-open world with scenarios similar to those of Strange Journey.

Personally, I'd love a more somber and grander scale pokemon game that had large, open vistas like SotC, but I'd never get it.

And it wouldn't even be hard to fill that space; wild pokemon are *everywhere* in the pokemon universe. You literally trip over them. But whatever, Gamefreak doing the same shit its been doing for twenty five years and counting will still make them all of the money for no effort. God, I miss Pokemon Coliseum.

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If this was the case I'd fully support Nintendo and Gamefreak. But we're in the wrong world.

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Pokemon models are non issue, also creatures do the models and animations not GF.

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Bruh some pokemon models had more poly's than Lightning from FFXIII.

Theres a reason Pokemon ran like shit on 3DS.

models only need better textures and animations

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It can be great.

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Unova...home.

Even if you gave them all the money in the world pokemon would still be shit. Rather than putting their ego to the side to have someone competent give you a decent pokemon game, Masuda and co. would rather give you a shitty game because they want their name on it.
This is basically my Jr. High basketball coach
>Have players that can cooperate and know the game better
>Puts his own incompetent son as the lead
>Easy to prevent mistakes like turnovers occur, can't get to the other side of the court fast enough, blames everyone but him
>The other team is confused
>Even the crowd of parents are getting fed up with this shit
>Coach tries fixing things by keeping his son and swapping another player

>Pokemon Souls
Sounds fucking amazing
>Travel the world as a character
>Get to control your pokemon in a fight

I think dripping over Pokemon is fine, there are tons of animals all over rural areas which would translate to Pokemon. They just need to inspire awe when seeing Pokemon that should be "rare" or awe-inspiring.

The easy solution is to just do Kanto dex. Maybe a couple of the mascots from other gens too but they're not even necessary. You may not like to admit it but you know I'm right.

Fuck off genwunner.

Just give a good spread of mons. No need to shove kantomons only.

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By easy solution I mean what would please the general public, not what I personally want.

It would probably run into the same problem World has though, where that big ecosystem is mostly just set dressing for the gameplay loop. Someone might play for hundreds of hours without knowing that Rathalos will fly to water and take a drink, because the only way players can really interact with a Rathalos is through beating its fucking face in and skinning its corpse to make a new hat.

In a pokemon ecological simulation, what would you do with the pokemon besides fight them and/or capture them? I guess that's where the pokedex comes in, but then you might fall into the same trap where you just run around beating up and kidnapping nature, which kind of runs contrary to a loving depiction of an ecosystem. Maybe the local professor specifically wants to see pokemon observed in a natural state, but then how would capturing and raising your own pokemon play into that? Shit, I'm not a game designer.

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General public is a bunch of shit eaters. And Kanto wank is western thing.

Gooks were perfectly fine with BW dex.

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>dude imagine if pokemon was edgy and made for "adults"
dude imagine if you moved out of mom's basement

>That amount of likes and retweets
I don't care what they say about you Yea Forums you guys are aight.

>Asking for improvements is being edgy.

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I figure the entire emphasis is about catching pokemon. Going to a specific environment that they'd likely be, maybe lure them out somehow. Time of day, weather, etc. The reason I brought up Snap is because the only way to get slowbro is have a shelder bite on a slowpoke's tail. I mean things like that in terms of an ecosystem. The pokedex does make mention of all sorts of ecology, like predator/prey (pidgey and caterpie) or rivalries (zangoose and seviper), so use that as a basis for this ecology.

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Sounds comfy as fuck.

>open world = edgy

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You can place Pokemon strategically before a Legendary battle assuming you don't get caught or if they're somehow not waiting for you already, and then you switch between them in battle manually to attack/flee/defend or give them orders to act automatically. Keeping the trainer safe is a must and the most important place. Nintendo hire me

thread theme
youtube.com/watch?v=C1Y_d_Lhp60

I think it could work if you have a device that lets you traverse the vastness at a decent pace, while still being able to enjoy and explore the view

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>nintendo
user, I...

desgining those kinds of spaces is hard, Anthem tried their hand at it and did a decent job as well with these grandiose mega structures you can run along

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I feel like the line between interesting and empty is tough to find

I think to some extent Pokemon Stranding would be a pretty good game. Really show off what an actual Pokemon journey would be like. Vast stretches of nothingness between cities, just you and your Pokemon training and shit, chancing upon an opponent in the road and battling it out like wandering ronin for a chance to test your skills.

Instead of ladders you get your grass pokemon to do vine whip, ride your water pokemon down the river for a shortcut. I'm not saying it'd be a masterpiece or even particularly fun, but I think it's a game that's worth having. Doesn't everyone dream about really living in the Pokemon world? I thought that was why everyone wanted VR so bad, so you could experience what it was really like to spend 8 hours a day walking to the next town over with your Pikachu.

>MHW x Pokemon
Nice

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emptiness can be interesting though

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I think this game would be fun as fuck even w/o the pokemon license, but it def wouldn't be as popular.

sad to know that Nintendo would never do something this gritty and interesting.

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If I wanted to make an open world with not a lot in it would I run into performance issues? That's the first thing I think of when wanting to have a bunch of floating islands you can jump between, rendering them from such a large distance wouldn't be easy right? How the fuck do people do it.

It's mostly about varying your player's direction of movement. No matter how well-made your terrain is, fundamentally the player's going to get bored if they're just holding forward all the time. Make them turn a bit to avoid a rock, make it more efficient to climb hills on a shallower gradient rather than straight up. Give them lots of little things to look at and minor obstacles to move out of the way of. Try and emulate the feeling of actually walking through a field as much as you can.

Boy, this all really puts into perspective how truly awful SwSh are going to be.

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pokemon company doesnt understand its franchise anymore.
we want a world to get lost in and vast woodlands, mountains rivers to traverse.
instead we get cramped routes and annoying npc companions interrupting you every step.

This, most people are familiar with Gen 1

thats totally true, I fell in love with SotC when it released on PS3. It's all in the way they execute it.

Define empty.

It's entire possible to have a empty area while still being interesting. Xenoblade do a good job with that most of time. Also for pokemon it would just need spread around like real animals.

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Clever loading and deloading as far as I know. You don't render more than you need to.

Just play pixelmon

Pokemon works great for this, different terrains of movement complementing flying, surfing, ground and tunneling, etc

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Fill those large spaces up with large pokemon to fight and catch and you're good

This would be great as a one off area in the game where you can let all of your pokemon out to walk around and just chill and relax for a few minutes.

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this proved that Earth is indeed flat.

The issue is that most pokemons aren't that big.

Charizard is like 190 for example.

Predator/prey relationships might be hard to depict because of the pokemon company's constant tiptoeing around the idea of pokemon actually being violent.

One of things I liked about xenoblade's areas were the occasional enemies that were just way fucking stronger than you possibly be capable of fighting when you first got there. It forced a level of awareness to your environment, and gave you something to tackle on return visits.

Shadow of the Pokemon

A circle is just a bunch of straight lines.

>hard to depict
It can be as simple as finding pidgey near where you'd find caterpie.

that minimalist shit is a blight on UI design

Even on a sunny day, this artist forces a cloud to take up the entire sky. They must be depressed.

Because there are performance and memory constraints to consider, also the fact that wide tracts of fucking nothing, despite the nice scenery, are boring and turns off most gamers.

Bungie doesn't really do anything different from its peers, the only thing they do better is selling the illusion of scale and making godly skyboxes, it's smoke and mirrors all the same, just like every other game though.

>I'll never lose my virginity
>stop trying to make me grow up Yea Forums
Neck yourself you sperging tranny.

XBX one of largest open world and run just fine.

The thing is that few people know how handle such thing.

Fuck off, armchair psychiatrist

>animation
>4 attack moves

Have you never gone outside? You can walk between overcast and sunny.

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That's more of an implication than a depiction. A depiction would be seeing wild pidgey attack wild caterpie. Even then you couldn't show a pokemon getting killed and eaten onscreen, so it would probably just fade away or something.

>being this much of a fag
Edgy=good

No I fucking won't.
I literally bought every Pokemon up until SwSh and it stops here.
Deep down, I know their sales won't be seriously affected either way, but I sincerely hope my distaste will be noted.

>Hire him to do what?
Decide everything about the game. He has the ideas, all that is needed now is money.

I wonder how long it will take for vidya in general to look this good, some games obviously look good but it isn't consistent, it's always something I think about and I hope Pokemon reaches there one day

>Locating evolutionary stones by studying groups of Eevee that migrate to them during certain weather's
>Stumbling across the rare Deoxys meteorite event in the early game and managing to cheese past the radiation damage only to get destroyed by the legendary pokemon
>Bypassing doors in city areas by hacking security measures with Porygon
>Completing enough high morality quests to have certain wild pokemon act friendlier to you and get access to fairy areas
>Being enough of am asshole that Dusknoir and Gengar come for your soul and you can catch them
>Comfy gossip about Mew and Arceus being in the game

It doesn't need to be more than an implication. The main point is that if you want to find a pidgey, look for caterpie. If you want to find a caterpie, find some forest, etc.

I don't even know where to begin.
Maybe I'll go left to right.
> aversa is now fat and wears a bodystocking or some kind of sweater
> I think this is supposed to be sully? except her nose occupies twenty times too much space and she's black for some reason...?
> ok that's a half decent libra but maybe tone down the nose
> dude. please. Just shrink the fucking nose. Lon'qu doesn't look like this he's supposed to be vaguely asiatic even among people drawn in an animesque style already
> Holy fuck olivia's entire THING is being small and waifish why is she fat and black and once again why is her nose so fucking big
> fat black tharja with the biggest nose yet, I'm almost numb
> gremlin nowi with an outfit that covers 100% of her body because "MUH ACTUAL CHILDREN ARE AFFECTED BY LOLI"
the worst part is I can actually see at least comedic merit in lonqu dating libra, but not like this

A more tomboy Samus would be cool, like Ripley from Alien.
Just dont make her a butch lezzy

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Anything that isn't this pic is unacceptable.

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This can all be simplified and automated.
Take a pokemon and build it with a premade set of fields.
Where does it nest? What does it eat? What does it do when it's not eating or sleeping? When is it awake? What weather does it react to?
These five answers will go MILES in determining pokemon behavior if you build and code the world properly, with minimal additional input per pokemon.
Just for an example, let's fill this out for some early-route bird pokemon. Call it Pidgeot or anything you want, really, they're (mostly) interchangeable.
Where it nests:
> Trees, high-up nooks
What it eats:
> Bug pokemon
What does it do otherwise:
> Find a mate
When is it awake:
> early bird, daiurnal (awake from sunrise, settles down before sunset)
What weather does it react to:
> Rain
This will create a species of bird pokemon that:
> wakes up from its nest around sunrise
> travels somewhere the local type of bug pokemon prefers, then begins hunting
> hangs around for awhile, possibly checks multiple spots
> travels to other viable nest locations to find mates
> more or less recedes to their nests before sunset
> will rest during inclement weather and hunt more readily afterward
From here, all you need to do is apply standardized "tags" to the correct areas in the world and boom.

Obviously she should still have big tits

nope this is too much to ask for from the biggest IP the world has ever known. modern standards are too difficult, hell even recycling the same game for 15 years is too difficult according to gamefreak.

I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be Henry, because he wrote it in blood

I think a game where you need to actually pay attention to the pokedex could be fun. Talking to the locals of the area to hear rumours about "strange call at night during storms" would lead the player to explore at night during a storm and possibly find a pokemon that wouldn't otherwise be available. They did a similar thing with pokemon ranger where exploring the environment got you rarer stuff than random encounters. Also encountering the pokemon itself could be fun by making the player learn about its diet and actually using the cooking shit I think they did in one of the games.

looks more like ffxv

I'd honestly fucking love ANY amount of detail put into the actual gameplay surrounding the pokemon themselves, other than how they are in a fight.
You've got a fantastic set of ideas and any one of them would make a pokemon game pop out among the droves of samey things and spinoffs that just put the pokemon on as a sticker.

I think feeding pokemon is definitely something that should be in there. Using food as bait, using it to placate aggressive pokemon, and just keeping your own team fed and happy.

I think team logistics would be an interesting element in a game like this. Maybe stronger pokemon have greater and/or stricter dietary needs compared to smaller or weaker ones, or having a pokemon with a predatory relationship or type advantage to the local wild ones will make them more wary of you.

mainline pokemon is the hugest example of an IP with wasted potential in existence. I just don't get it.

i dont know, the leviathian FEELS massive, its one of my favorite "levels" in any vidya ever, shits cash
youtube.com/watch?v=vZScNJtWd1w
like, if that doesn't feel like all one massive interconnected labyrinthine machine, i dont know what does. and that intro sells the scale perfectly

that looks nice. i like light rain and fog.

Would it even be worth it making something like this without the product recognition of pokemon? Designing dozens of monsters/animals would be hard enough but making them as unique and liked as the original pokemon would be a feat.

it would be the same pokemon, dipshit. you just get to explore a world and actually see these massive pokemon rather than waddling around in the same grass in every town.

Up until now, it's always been possible to extract some modicum of engagement from the games by playing online in the endgame with fun and unique strats.
It's starting to look like SwSh is going to deliberately try to kill that, forcing everyone who plays above the level of "use type advantages lol" into line.
With mega evolution and z-moves gone, a lot of depth has already been taken from battles. I wouldn't put it past Game Freak to also take out moves and abilities- anything even slightly difficult to code and/or balance is probably out.

It's possible you could make something like this without it just being pokemon, but the thing is, pokemon has covered so much ground and dominated this genre for so long that even if you did have original, legitimately charming creatures, they'd just be compared anyway.

these backgrounds are super pretty. where are they from?

If you wanted to be a huge hit, probably not

But you could always do it anyway to show what could be done with the idea

dont ruin her for the love of god

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they already said to fuck off with the old pokemon. just make only enormous pokemon for the next game.

>I kind of want to play concept art.

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GAMEFREAK HIRE

Same.

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where the actual fuck are the roads. everytime you think there's space inbetween those houses there's actually another house. you have to walk through 17 living rooms just to reach your apartment.

GF is retard and think that making pokemon big means something.

Battle revo had proper scaling and looked just fine, also first thing they shown on trailer was a fucking wailord properly scaled.

You honestly telling me that you wouldn't play games that looked exactly like their concept art?

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Everyone just flies

how can something look like a robot, wizard, and samurai at the same time

NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN

That looks like Unreal Engine garbage

What is there to use aside from unreal? Unity is even worse. That's basically it unless you try and make your own which would be a fucking nightmare.

okay this is pretty comfy

You do realize that most company use some version of Unreal Engine right you fucking retard?

>Pokemon is best when it feels small and cozy
More like ps1 texture rail road game right fellas?

How do I get to this level of art? I can barely do the outline. Can't even imagine doing proper environments.

Destiny is a master class in how to make interesting skyboxes.

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Bungie has always made amazing skyboxes and environments. I remember playing Halo 3 and Reach and loving the stormy and starry skyboxes they had for some of their singleplayer maps.

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They still haven't lost their touch. Sometimes I stop playing just to sit in some spot to take a good screenshot because of that weird feeling of wanting to go to some of those places.

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>interesting
>literally nothing but eye candy
Bet you won't even find out why those things float.

the clouds are holding them up