Bethesda is shit, but they scratch an itch no one else does
Liam Bell
One day lad... one day...
Jace Nelson
Literally nothing. Why do you think Bethesda games sell? It's because they are literally the only player in the space.
Asher Lewis
kingdom come deliverance for something similar but no really
Liam Ross
check out mount and blade bannerlord
Aaron Scott
Bethesda has a monopoly on highly moddable open world sandbox rpgs. That's how they get away with all their Bethesda jank bullshit. The sooner someone makes something similar along with some software for modders like the creation kit, the better.
Aaron Cooper
Not much competition. Pretty much all other open world games are so-called "ubi-worlds" with actual shitty writing, TES is not bad relatively speaking.
Aiden Kelly
>but without a million bugs
Angel Cooper
I beat this recently, got oblivion vibes the whole time.
Jack Butler
Are your parents related by blood? If you enjoy cheesing the shittiest AI ever implemented in gaming history more power to you. M&B has no redeeming value of any kind.
Elijah Mitchell
Fallout New Vegas, except for the bugs.
Ryder Peterson
And shit combat.
Joshua Watson
Seconding KCD, OP.
However, unless you like historical realism and have an appreciation for European ambience, your enjoyment will be probably be quite limited.
And the railroaded narrative path they force on you.
Connor Bennett
Boiling Point and Xenus 2. You play as a premade character but otherwise the game is very open. It's made by slavs so it has some jank but nothing worse than your average bethesda game.
Jaxon Jenkins
>Lacks a custom character So close yet so far.
Christian Allen
this. no matter how fucking dogshit bethesdas games are they're still somehow the only ones making that type of game
Josiah Hernandez
Imagine the fucking money another developer would make by just apeing what Bethesda did.
Jaxson Peterson
>kingdom come deliverance >Blank slate custom character no
Lucas Adams
kingdoms of amalur tried but it was only a few months after skyrim released and it fucking bombed
Lucas Sullivan
I think that was more to do with bad release timing, and also the shit tier MMO loot grindfest. Developers need to stop thinking RNG loot drops with "infinite possibilities" are good.
Owen Nelson
"infinite possibilities" CAN be done well but you have to design the entire game around it and not just tack it on at the end like every single fucking developer does
Matthew Gonzalez
Nah, I personally prefer a predetermined set of items. Gives you something to aim for at the end of a quest or dungeon.
Kayden Wright
It's so bizarre that given how the industry loves to chase trends, no one will imitate and iterate upon Bethesda's design. As another user said, Kingdom: Come Deliverance is the closest you'll get, though you play a set character.
Other than that, your best bet is just to play immersive sims.
Camden Harris
that's why i said the game has to be built around it. minecraft does infinite possibilities well because that's the point, but skyrim doesn't because skyrim only applies it to loot and nameless one shot npcs for repeatable quests with no reward
Mason Barnes
trying to get the perfect bethesda game is like trying to get the perfect hit of crack
Camden Perry
nobody copying bethesda is just as bizarre as the lack of porn for square enix properties. the final fantasy franchise as a whole only barely has more than fucking renamon despite every game having 10/10 cum dumps
Henry Foster
The closest hit I've ever gotten is Divinity Original Sin 2. The writing is okay, passable. The combat is pretty good even with the bizarre armor system. Undead for skelly nerds, lizards for degenerates, elves and dwarves for normies. World interaction isn't as extensive but better than most. It's like that intermediary alternative that just scratches the itch but you know it needs more.
Gavin James
This thread made me realize how weird it is that Bethesda games are so popular yet there are no non Bethesda games like them
Ethan Cook
>tfw you realize the billions that the elder scrolls has raked in was probably spent on making sure nobody copied them since literally fucking anyone else could do better i'm surprised they've allowed mods to exist for this long because it proves that someone with literally no money or experience can improve the property tenfold by themselves
I was really hoping that Cyberpunk 2077 would be third person because another good part of Bethesda games is the endless character customization. Feels like it was a wasted choice to go first person because it neuters dress up. The only thing you see outside of the inventory is your mechanical arms which we know you can heavily customise thanks to the trailers.
Charles Campbell
stardew valley
Kevin Powell
How do you think they're gonna implement the tranny customization?
Camden Barnes
If we talk about "modern" things, the best we can hope for will come from Obsidian and CD Projekt Red in the future.
And no, I'm not talking about The Outer Worlds necessarily; I'm talking about the game they created with Microsoft's money. Give Obsidian 3 or 4 years to work and the result could be spectacular and incredible. But only if they have a good budget and time.
>EGS exclusive And every human being with a PC stopped caring.
Camden Cox
I don't hate M&B but I don't like it either. It was like a proof of concept demo that should have been the starting point not what they released. You can see the pieces of a good game in there but nothing came together. Mildly hopeful for Bannerlord.
Daniel Rogers
it looks god awful. probably gonna make people realize that making a beth game isn't that easy.
Ian Ross
In some ways i think baulders gate II and pillars of eternity allow for some of this feeling
Parker Hughes
Kenshi, it's like Morrowind on steroids.
Matthew Anderson
There's also gothic and arx fatalis
Carson Diaz
If I could play as a hot girl in a full set of plate this game would have been perfect.