Do you play Grand Strategy games Yea Forums?

hm got me. I never tried DH, is it worth it?

EU4 and CK2 ARE modern Paradox titles, you fucking zoomer

Fucking same. Every so often I’ll give one of these a go but I don’t have the attention span for it

I think Vicky 2 is the easiest for starters. Not much to worry about in contrast to eu4

it's quite good but really the only reason to play it is Kaiserreich (which is excellent)
that's literally what he just said
learn to read

but the are good for beginners?

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they're marketed to people who have never played Paradox shit before, you'll be fucking fine
except V2 has so much stuff going on that you can't comprehend as a beginner whereas EU4 is just build big army -> smash enemy

Hoi4 is probably one of my biggest time sinks. Playing as Germany is the only real way to play, though. They U.K. has lots of resources, but no manpower. The commonwealth divisions are shit, and the French always get overrun. Playing fascist Britain is a must, but without a focus tree it’s just dead in the water. Same thing with fascist USA or Russia, no focus tree in base game. After learning the basics, playing the game with mods is almost mandatory. Best mods are Kaiserreich, Road to 56, player led peace conferences, and x10 (for absolute chaos). Problem is my internet is shit and i can’t find anyone to play with so I’m stuck playing single player.

A friend of mine gifted me EUIV and when I booted it up I was treated to what I could only describe as an Excel spreadsheet with a map of all the countries pasted on.

I used to, but I've came to be kind of bored of the whole "national focus" and "events" in Paradox games. It's not that they are bad or boring, there's just not enough meaningful complexity under them - on the actual ground of the game - to enact swiping changes to the game's procedural line.

I don't know. Sorry, Yea Forums

>Hoi4
retard
>EU4
>in any way spreadsheet like
retarded casual

as long as your aren't afraid to die and press buttons to find out what they do you can get into and enjoy CK2 pretty quickly.
maybe check a playthrough by Arumba before so you know if it is something you might enjoy.

thanks bro

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>tfw when Imperator: Rome

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Just play EU: Rome with that mod that makes barbarians actually fun

>EU4 is just build big army -> smash enemy
not really after the newest updates. All that shit like forts, loyalty, corruption, spy networks, relation modifiers etc. Vanilla V2 is way easier, diplomacy is easy to understand and so is war.

I was hoping it was going to be good, I haven't gotten into an advanced 4x before and I was hoping to get into that one. Besides Stellaris of course, which is just really freaking boring.

>Imperator: Rome

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Yeah

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have you played Vicky 2?

It'll take years to fix it like they fixed Stellaris.

Nope. There a particular reason I should jump on that instead of CK?

>fixed Stellaris
didn't they just turn it even more into EU4 in space? I stopped paying attention when I read that they removed everything but hyperlanes and made it so you have to explicitly claim all systems
it's the best Paradox game
just play both

>stellaris
>fixed
Only mods fix Stellaris.

>modifiers are content
retards like you is the audience that has degenerated paradox into dlc cancer

Field of Glory Empires is great

I bought Field of Glory 2 in the last sale, haven't played much more than the tutorial
Empires takes place on a grand strategy map and the battles are simulated, right?

The planet layout fix made it more like Vicky, and while removing all travel methods but hyperlanes sucked at first, it also made the game much more balanced, and easier to further balance in the future.

>muh balance
fuck off Johan, go play another office MP game

Only HoI4, mostly modded. Been playing the OWB mod again. Makes me wish for an entire standalone GS fallout game. Also fuck those devs for deciding to make some fan fiction mexico instead of the rest of the USA.

Victoria 2 is the greatest gsg of all time

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Only ck 2, because family/dynasty simulator roleplay appeals to me.

Balance is not all about MP bruh, it's also about making several styles of play viable.

>18.96M
goddamn I love new world nations

CK2, EU4 and I've been trying to learn HOI4.

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All of the family shit and whatever the fuck is confusing as hell in CK2, I'm glad I've gotten it for free instead of wasting money

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HoI3 is just a micromanagement hell for autists.

EU4 or CK2

Ah, what SHOULD have been...

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grand strategy is for autists

Hoi3 sucks ass and aged poorly

games don't age, you're just underaged

yea

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> Stellaris
> Fixed
It's legitimately never been worse than it is today

get with the times grandpa

Doing a Shogun run. Used custom nation to see how broken it could get.
Basically stacking dip rep to keep liberty desire down and diplo vassalize countries with less than 100 development. Used other ideas to reduce the warscore cost of provinces so I can vassalize bigger countries in wars.
Light blue areas in the picture are my vassals so far.

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BASED & SARMATIANPILLED

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Ugh...
What could have been

How easy is CK2 to mod?

I want Templars with guns

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Of course, look at my EPIC REDPILLED GROẞGERMANIA!!!!

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why does ckii just look so much better than eu4?

yes

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Manchuria/Siberia is such a pain in the ass to play in, not sure how you can bear it. It takes some three months to move from a province into another

ck2 has soul
youtube.com/watch?v=PvO50GYniiI&list=PL01FEDE76AFEE713D&index=7

>all we wanted was a good mix of CK2, EU, and Vic 2 set in Antiquity
>couldn't even deliver that
I'm very despondent over the state of this game

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The political map is transparent so you can actually see the geography, while EUIV has no transparency so it looks like playdough.

don't worry, johan will fix it

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Buffing up on my history and I'm gonna try this soon. How forgiving is it to play as the Confederacy?

So when the fuck is Paradox actually changing jurchens/manchus not to be a horde? Because they're not supposed to be a horde.

Those trailers were kino.

>playing Hoi4
>playing EU4
>playing CK2
Those aren't grand strategy games, people

Hopefully never, they're the most fun Horde left in the game.

They already improved the game immensely since launch, doubt anyone here stil plays it. Right now is less of a mana management than EU is. almost 300h in

>Those aren't grand strategy games, people
In case of ck 2, that precisely why I like it.

Hordes are such a pain in the ass though. They're really fun to play in CK2, but on EU4 it's just terrible. You are pretty much forced to jump into wars that will absolutely rape you and you get random stab hits every 2 minutes.

based retard

I was looking into getting into it, but I think I'll wait a bit longer.

ck2 is literally best game evear tho

Still shit compared to their older titles though

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Arma has them

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UGH

>i wrote a blog post a while ago about why I fucking hate video games

>estonia and karelia not part of greater finno-ugric empire

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i play civ 5 with vox populi and all dlcs. served me pretty good so far. of course it's not hoi tier but still pretty good for sunday mornings.

Ugh...

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Still incredibly bare bones

>Playing Darkest Hour instead of Hoi2 Doomsday

Ugh... what could've been...

North and South on NES

What was disgusting was the interview in pc gamer with Johan. The arrogance of this cunt.

pcgamer.com/uk/how-paradox-is-rebuilding-imperator-rome/

Wat game

UGH

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If it had ck 2 style family trees and traits then I might be interested. It doesn't, so... I think Jewhan hates ck 2.

jesus christ how do the mountains and wastelands look worse every game

Based. This is the ideal Europe.

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It has traits, and family trees will be made more intricate in future updates

>fail to comprehend post
>best throw out a buzzword
literally kys yourself my man

CK2 is nice because of he stories you can create.

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>Finland doesn't have Petersgrad

Puukko this guy.

When was the last time you saw Ottomans get fucked early on by the AI? I swear it's been several patches for me. Sometimes I'll see Venice do well against them in current patch but the Ottomans don't cease to exist soon thereafter.

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The only thing that could make this game good was if you could start a industrial revolution in the roman republic

>buying paradox dlc dog shit

How will syndies ever recover?

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>make a game about Rome
>have it end right before the empire is formed
I would say "what the fuck were they thinking" but I already know what was in the heads of those money grubbing cunts

>going with the union instead of restoring the federal goverment
gaay

>wanting a gsg where half of the map is one country
dumb retard

What was in the head was probably an extended timeline as DLC a la CK2.

>got civ 5 last week, very comfy
>play for an hour or two, save and take a break
>can't get back into old game
>delete it and start over
>repeat
Have yet to get past mediaval era.

Then they should actually have mechanics that make it hard to maintain an empire so huge.

what the fuck am i looking at

I do not play grand strategy games, and I have little interest in them.

How does MacArthur’s boot taste?

Thanks for contributing, we're all very glad to have your opinion.

Ck 2 is pretty fun but I keep pissing off everyone no matter what I do

my IQ is too low for this type of games

Restore democracy

>Union State
Based. Fuck the Federals, the w*st coast, syndies, Mexico and Canada.

>have urge to play eu3 again
>remember how everyone of war against you, even allies of allies, despite the fact that it is impossible
>remember how it is impossible to make any profit because you're expenses are always 99% off your income, unless you change treasury slider which increase your inflation which makes everything more expensive
>remember how it is impossible to trade unless you own CoT, because AI will reach monopoly everywhere else,
>remember all those aggresion wars you had to declare because getting casus belli outside of missions is fucking impossible, until late in the game
I had fun playing it, but fucking hell recalling those memories gives my PTSD
I swear atleast half of my playtime when creating germany, was looking at loading screan because you had to savescum to stay sane

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I don't think I can go back to EU3 after EU4

>everyone of war against you
what
>impossible to make any profit because you're expenses are always 99% off your income
yes so you can actually invest your dosh into tech instead of having it be bound ot a random variable assigned to your ruler that you need to share with country development
sliders are literally the best thing about EU3
>impossible to trade unless you own CoT
ahahahahahahaha
go free trade you stupid nigger
even in HttT where it was better to go mercantilist if you conquer a lot, FT worked easily for foreign trade
if you don't have a monopoly in the top 6 CoTs you're definitely stupid enough to prefer EU4 instead
>all those aggresion wars you had to declare because getting casus belli outside of missions is fucking impossible
yeah it's way cooler to just freely blob whenever you want with no investment

>never played a 4x game before
>get endless space dirt cheap on sale
>took 10-20 hours before i knew what the fuck was going on
>uninstall after 30 hours since the ai is always cheating

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>what
Your enemy will call their allies into a war, then their allies will call their allies into a war, then thier allies will call their allies into a war, so every war ends up being a continent-wide war.

they fixed that in DW where only the war leader can call allies
maybe you shouldn't be posting EU3 vanilla info

Recommend me some fun countries to play.

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The early creation of Israel from the Abassids. Some friends and I waned to have a relaxing meme game. I took the spymaster role, another became the martial and the last one was king. I became the head of Lucifer's own and got possessed. I started having tons of children to life steal from and became nigh immortal and the guy playing the high general found the fountain of youth.

Natpop AUS > Moderate AUS > Natpop USA > Totalist CSA > Democratic USA > Radsoc CSA > anything PSA

Fact

>he hasn't taken the boatpill

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None
Until Paradox learns how to make tall gameplay viable and FUN, every game will be ultimately a boring blob fest, or restraining yourself from blobbing

Game ?

is that Rule the Waves? I stuck at that game, for some reason my ships always miss
>Natpop AUS
based
nothing cooler than going full free market as well for that build speed

Can you repress the smelly plebs in Imperator with harsh reforms on labor and food distribution?

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Top left corner, champ.

No, I cant even handle a babby strategy game like Age of Wonders III without my brain melting out of my nose

So is the Cold War Enhancement Mod Kino?

ah yes my favorite game, Ship Design 1923

Byzantine empire, alternatively Sweden.

It isn't there you autistic cunt it's the ship designer

RtW2

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Its time for the real debate. Which one is the best and why is it sword-and-torch?

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Burgundy
Fuck France
Fuck Austria
Fuck Spain
Fuck England

/gsg/ is always shit but it bothers me that /gsg/ is now so shit that there are no content posters there at all anymore. Can't even see content for the games outside of a Yea Forums thread these days.

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>Indomptable
lol french is stupid
>sword-and-torch
no further debate necessary

Where do I learn to play it?

Whatever it is, I think we can all agree coast-guard is low tier.

>Greater German Reich
>doesnt control the Scandinavian countries and Finland where the largest concentration of Aryans exists

Burgundy more like Cuck-gundy! Never even reached the title of kingdom and the last duke got impaled on some dirty peasants pitchfork.

Is there any difference in heavy infantry troop types between different culture groups yet?

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Form Spain with Portugal and colonize everything.

eu4 and ck2 are the entry level ones.
if you want control over many aspects of your country, then EU4.
if you want roleplaying and a focus on characters, then CK2.

Not really though

Generals have always been a hot bed of garbage
/MHG/ finally died so we started having semi-good monster hunter threads on Yea Forums lately

Some autist has been posting a modded HoI 3 run.

He may or may not be me.

you can just let the AI design and control your botes. If you want to design them yourself then just look at historical boats, theres a lot of options but it honestly isn't hard once you know what the fuck to look for.

they're all pretty easy, once you figure out what's going on you can outsmart the AI every time

I'd say either CK2 or Victoria 2 are the best

Age of Wonders 1 is my favorite game.

>not Aragon and crusading into Ethiopia to take over gonder

The world as it should be.

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The hierarchy is sword-and-torch > party flag = saltire-and-star > coast guard. This can not be disputed.

Almost never. In a year or more.

Total War is kind of a meme grand strategy since the actual skill is in maneuvering troops in real time but it's still just as satisfying to clap an enemies huge army

>clap
back to twitter

>hoi4 removed this system
it took me a while to be able to get past the lack of it

Mewar is hella fun. Two achievements for it too.

>Sign Moscow-Berlin treaty with Russia
>Invade America.
>Let drunk Russians throw themselves at the enemy lines while gaining me territory.

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>hammer and anvil
>EVERY SINGLE BATTLE
It's a fucking yawn fest. Skirmishing means nothing, despite being an often major part of battle to seize important areas like a hill or ford

Kaisserreich and the DH Fallout mod

Hmm I never play any Indian country before, anything I should know?

you aren't using skirmishers right then

No general with the possible exception of /kspg/ is or ever has been worse than /gsg/, I flatly refuse to believe it.

At least someone's trying.

yeah yeah whatever faggot, everyone knows about hammer & anvilling in TW but you're unique and totally use skirmisher tactics
shut the fuck up

The upcoming cicero update seems cool, but the launch was absolutely abysmal. I still hope it'll get good with time like Stellaris did.

Brandenburg of course, and form EPIC MILITARIST PRUSSIAN SPAYCE MARINES :^]

Yeah.
Anyone know of a Vicky II mod that actually splits up the North American cultures a bit better?
Even HPM has fucking Texan as independent from Dixie yet the western area, like California, Oregon, Utah, etc are just "Yankee."

Cavalry is too reactive and disciplined in TW. They can charge in, rekt skirmishers then run away. In reality they would be slow to react and could quite likely become ineffective for the rest of the battle, but there's no such risk in TW games.

Playing online, no one uses skirmishers unless it's a very specific hard counter to a meme faction in a no rules game

I'm gonna play Brandenburg unironically in the next Europe update.

because yankees go to colonize there and USA has incredible assimilation modifiers
what cultures do you expect? and why would it matter?

Look up Hindu events is the only special thing I'd tell you. Every time you get a new ruler you can select a deity that specialises in something (building/development cost, discipline etc.) and you may get events that will let your ruler devote more time to prayer or some shit and thus increase admin/dip/mil gain by +2 or something (in just one field not all 3 at once), but they price is -50% heir chance and -1 diplomatic relations. These negatives last only a few years though while the bonuses are permanent then on. So it's good to keep in mind to have one diplomatic relations slot free.

Use the F10 function, it takes a nice screenshot of the map using the current map mode. Dipshit.

>DH Fallout mod
My nigger. Have you tried the Fallout mod for 4 at all? Its not half bad, and the Enclave submod for it is unironically pretty great. I hope the base mod stays alive long enough to reach the Eastern Seaboard.

Is there a reason none of the mods that i try to install work? They show up in the launcher and i enable them but there is no actual effect in the game. Pirated btw because fuck paradox dlc bullshit.

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stellaris has to be the slowest piece of shit game in existence

fair enough, I haven't played since Shogun 2

what are pre-gunpowder TW online games actually like? I've only seen some FotS footage
also brehs if you want a gunpowder game with TW-like combat that actually has a tiny bit more tactics than "form line, let enemies walk into it", try Ultimate General: Civil War

Still better than 95% of the map being made-up literally-whos that have no significance whatsoever.

yea

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are you sure they're compatible with your version?

>no manpower
retard
>not making own division templates and actually using commonwealth divisions
retard
>Clearly too poor for the DLC's
poorfag
>Singleplayer
All is explained. Play multiplayer or don't talk like you know how the game works. Every retard can world domination on singleplayer.

if german reich screenshots piss off leftycucks so much i might start taking them

Yes i'm sure.

They are cancer. It's usually just you trying to out Hammer and anvil the other guy
The most fun I've had was playing like 4 or 5 person FFA's back in the original Rome

Stellaris>EUIV>HoI4>IR new patch>cuck porn>ck2>blacked porn>Vicky 2

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not anymore

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>serbian australia down there in the corner
kek

Timurids into Mughals is currently insanely easy and OP if you want to be a big blobby powerhouse. Probably the easiest way to world conquest. Castile into Spain is also overpowered due to reliably getting tons of personal unions through missions/events. Blobbing is the de facto way to go in EU4, so you might as well go all out.

this but the exact opposite

I want an independent California.
I at least want Texans to be Dixie and "Rocky," or something, to be its own group.
It just annoys me.

based

well you better not fucking look at the cultures in Europe then if inaccuracy annoys you

HPM fixes a lot of Europe, at least.
But when I want to play an exclusive Yankee USA in just the north, I'd rather California have their own culture.
Thy sure as Hell aren't Yankees.

Yeah, I can't stand him either

HPM is too busy adding cultures to Africa, you racist

they sure as hell aren't Californians either at the start of the game, and V2 doesn't have population identity slowly crystalizing in colonies other than straight assimilation
you don't give a fuck about history you're just a stupid Ameritard

I have over 2K hours in Vicky 2 and around 200 or so in EUIII so I figured CK2 would be up my alley. I'm enjoying it a bit but here's a compilation of things that make me want to drive a fist through my monitor
>plague hits europe and I have to stop whatever I'm doing to swap council members and set their actions every fucking week
>Council members always default to being against most decisions and the optimal solution to this is waiting until you have enough cash to bribe anyone who isn't a loyalist
>early starts always end up with fucked up maps
>10% chance of dying while plowing your wife super hard
>characters never seem to have any real priority asides from standing in your way
>"the arabs might be crawling europe's asshole but we need to crusade against this lollard dutchy"
It's a fun game nevertheless, sometimes all the DING DING DING DING DING gets annoying too though

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Fuck off, retard.

Any games about one of the greatest military campaigns of all time?

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Literally never. I absolutely hate that 1444 is the start date for this game and it's just terrible and unfun to play anything near ottomans unless you pull retard cheese tactics like no-cb byzantium in early game.

I will never not be mad at what they've done to Stellaris. Get that shit out of here

yeah, Medieval 2 has a crusade addon

Paradox can't into domestic mechanics anymore. Everything is press button, spend mana and domestic issues are resolved.

What I dislike about Civ is how shallow and fast the early eras feel.

Most blunder filled campaign of all time

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Ugh.... mein Großbalkisches Reich

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Oh it’s gross alright

Paradox is making the maps uglier every game

The Alexander campaign in this game is pretty fun. Other states and Hegemony III are a bit underwhelming though. Haven't tried Hegemony Rome.

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I also liked it.
Haven't started III yet, though. I know when I do, I won't be able to stop for ages.

Are there any grand strategy games that are truly grand? (i.e. not paradox shit that boils down into some stupid meta, or is actually pure casual shit once you scrape off the convluted turd veneer).

Why are Germans such disgusting savages hellbent on despoiling everything good? Just like niggers, they can't swim either.

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>tfw I modded hoi4 to add a scenario where The Netherlands and France annexes Canada and South Africa

any moments where you got saved by sheer luck?

this was such a hype moment for me

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I like Stellaris, haven't really tried others

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Anyone know what game this is?

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Would love to play this but I just don't have the time to really dig down and learn the mechanics .

Something on the level of a game like Victoria 2 would be perfect for me. You can just jump in and play and learn as you go instead of not being able to make a single move because there are a dozen mechanics you need to fully understand to accomplish anything.

Shadow President.

>Kosovo
>Serbia

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Timurids into Mughals seems too easy and I don't really like continent size empire anyway.
I was thinking about Persia, how is it?

DEFCON

thanks m8

i hope so too, and that they add a US central authority in Washington
Restoring the USA as the former government in the DH mod was fun as fuck

>Playing as Germany is the only real way to play, though.
I have literally dominated the globe as Afghanistan. New Persian Empire.
>playing the game with mods is almost mandatory.
Kill yourself
>player led peace conferences, and x10
Kill yourself
This was my most recent game.
Stellaris is far better than Civ. Civ is grand strategy for babies.
Stop using mods and get good.

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Favourite cheevos?

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Germany is statistically the most fun nation to play as in HOI:4 though. Also there's nothing wrong with playing with mods and considering HOI:4 it wouldn't have done as well as it has if it wasn't for mods.

eu4 ottomans

literally autopilot for the first 50 years

great horde > golden horde > mongol empire

I never tire of killing the chink

absolutely nothing fun about Great Horde into Golden Horde

When is it going on sale bros? I want to get it at some point but can't justify putting down $40 on a game that wasn't well received.

>statistically
Is there a poll or something somewhere wtf?
Mods are ok, the ones he listed however just look like a crutch for someone that has no idea how the game functions.

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what mod?

ugh...

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DIE

CK2

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Wew, lad, I didn't know siptarzergs actually had functioning internet in their shitholes. Don't tarry now, you wouldn't want your goat-sister-wife to start missing you.

Anyone got any idea on some fun custom nations?

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Yea Forums boards, as usual

>kidnap someone
>using dark magic made me an ugly hunchback

g*rmans are the ultimate LARPers of history

I can't believe there are zoomers who got into paradox games after they went full greed mode with dlcs. They will never know the feel of playing a complete game with only two expansions

>start a new game on CK2
>saxons - just trying to keep the old germanic faith alive
>franks split up and revolt
>manage to grab a holy site as the result and survive
>fight against my norther neighbors and gain another holy side
>reform germanic
>player character is now the high priest of the new faith
>gets a legendary bloodline for being so religious
>keep raiding England for fun and money
>event pops up which lets me search for the grave of Alexander the Great at the cost of several thousand gold
>do so because i can afford it thanks to all the raiding
>gain another legendary bloodline after finding it
>basicly say fuck it and let my character go berserk in the fighters society
>he actually gets a third legendary bloodline as the result and now he and all his decendence are top tier fighters
>decide to go auto mode and spectate the world to see what happens next without me influencing anything
>my character and his sons conquer pretty much all of central europe and even sack Rome and Constantinopel
>everything is germanic
>even sub-Saharan Africa
>after 500 years of spectating the family of my character consists of like 5000 members and the world is pretty much divided between them and Chinas slave protectorate states

I think they made bloodlines a little too OP

Carthage, because PDX are too big of cowards to make it formable

t. french, or even worse, *nglo

Ternate
Caddo
Carib
Bosnia
Hejaz

alexander bloodline is just op as fuck, the rest of them are mediocore

>LARPers

This whole game is made for larping though, why complain about the main demographic?

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Are people seriously saying Stellaris is good now? People have done nothing but shit on it since release.

Germans are the literal niggers of Europe.
They can't stop trying to destroy it
Fuck Goths
Fuck Teutons
Fuck Germans

you seem obsessed

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literally every nationality has a cleaner conscious than the germanoid creature

Nobody is saying that.
Stellaris is getting worse with every new update

>game at release was barebones as shit with the early game being the only somewhat interesting part of the game
>people still see potential
>Paradox fuck the game with shit like Unbidden, Zergs and Robots for endgame
>which is as interesting as fighting the Grox in Spore
>push out DLC for pointless shit nobody really cares about
>remove actual features like travel options in order to "balance" the game
>make the endgame even worse than it was before
>wars are still shit
>factions still have zero personality and the alien faces are the only way to distinguish them
>actual diplomacy is still non-existent
But hey we now have pointless economy and better robots

Not really, germans set themselves up for cultural suicide and only managed to take the swedes with them
There's gonna be a lot of collateral damage but other countries will survive in the long run
Good ridance

Paradox games have stagnated, Imperator should be proof enough of that. My only hope for the genre at this point lies with indie devs.

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Which is more fun, Mewar or Punjab?

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Unfortunately a lot of indie GS is even more shallow

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play the ck2 warcraft mod

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Sounds like anglo projection, never forget its you people, slaves of the jew, that have nearly ruined western civilization.

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the Prussia of India of course

>all that wasted ocean space when there is no naval warfare
Looks pretty shit desu

how is that relevant

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It should be used for more detailed, bigger landmasses
It's essentially wasted space

>Road to 56
That mod is so fucking bloated that every nation has its own alliance. Even with historical focuses Britain goes fascist and Poland forms its own alliance leading to Germany shit-pumping Europe in every game. If Germany can get a peace conference with France then the AI can't remotely handle Germany.

that would mess up the aesthetic though
and it's not wasted space because there is no limit on space, nothing was given up to make the continent an appropriate distance from one another

>remove actual features like travel options in order to "balance" the game
People are still crying about this oh lawd
You know you can research the other forms of travel right?
>wars are still shit
Wars are perfectly fine, and there are like 5 ways to fight wars depending on your civics so I don't really get why you are bitching.
>actual diplomacy is still non-existent
More diplomacy than civ or HOI4
>But hey we now have pointless economy and better robots
Robots were literal shit after the tile revamp

And paradox gave the justification for no naval combat being that naval combat was irrelevant in the middle ages, which is so wrong I cant even begin to understand why they'd say that. They are lazy, and their lack of understanding of basic medieval history is why vanilla ck2 is so garbage, it's a meme pastiche of the middle ages for teenagers that watch isorrowproductions.

I unironically forgot that turd existed. How do you even manage to make a game so forgettable?

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UGH

I can understand visual modifications, but I can never understand why someone would throw all the balance out of the game that the devs have worked so hard (and continue to work) to create. Is it perfect? No. But they make it better and better every patch. Sure it pissed people off when they released restrictive trees that blocked you from doing shit, but that's kind of the point. Little nations can do what they want but big nations are bound to their tree more.

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Playing some Stellaris rn

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Doesn't seem arrogant to me, seems like a dude that wanted to try something different because he got sick of making the same exact thing wityh different coats of paint over and over again.
He's in the A.C. Doyle situation, in which he has to keep making the same shit he's starting to hate because fans want old thing but more

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that game really needed a campaign or something
with the historical games you dont really need that shit because people can relate to and care about the nations you see, I dont gave a shit about anything in stellaris, no flavour to anything

how can you even stand to play after 2300?
at that point the AI offers exactly zero challenge when you have your first 100k fleet while they still scramble getting 1/10th that

the thing is that he literally made the exact same thing with different coats of paint

t. yohan

France will die before Germany.

>imperator
>different
Look at this whale.
Imperator isn't even a game yet, it's at most a DLC platform in the making where you buy retarded cosmetics and mechanics that should have been in the game from the start.

It's shit

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>Weimar tricolor
Should we tell him, lads?

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Who even plays 4X multiplayer for that to matter

the black red and gold has nothing whatsoever to do with the Weimar republic you pseud

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Stellaris is a shittier game now than it was at launch, and that's an impressive achievement

except the weimar republic being the first time the german national flag was red black and gold

I havent played since they replaced planet tiles to whatever the fuck the job system was, what else have they done to fuck it up?

based retard

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What is your point? That the colours had some relevance in Germany beforehand? Duh, otherwise they would not have been chosed to be the national flag.
Doesn't change that it was the Weimar Republic who introduced it as the german flag.

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I stopped caring after they removed 2/3 of the starting ftl options and made both jump drives exactly the same. Also the '''faction''' system that has no depth, paying $20 for a single ship dlc in a patch that also nerfed battleship weapons to push you to buy it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_Parliament

Truly a better world...
>tfw you will never live in the North German Republic

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Cool, you want to make a point?

The shit blood and piss flag was never used in any formal capacity until weimar. But you know that, you’re just being an asshole.

Dream a little dream stinky kraut.
youtu.be/Tj4QH0af5PY

I already did by disproving your claim
see

Yes, you are.
>one uprising
>national flag

That wasn't me senpai. My point was that is simply wrong to say the flag has "nothing whatsoever" to do with the Weimar Republic, given the fact it was the first time those colours were the national flag of Germany.

ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH
ALLAH HAKKIN LİLLAH
ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH
ALLAH HAKKIN LİLLAH

ALLAHU YA HANNAN
ALLAHU YA DEYYAN
ALLAHU YA HANNAN
ALLAHU YA SUBHAN

ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH
ALLAH HAKKIN LİLLAH
ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH
ALLAH HAKKIN LİLLAH

ALLAHU YA BURHAN
ALLAHU YA SULTAN
ALLAHU YA ĞUFRAN
ALLAHU YA SUBHAN

ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH
ALLAH HAKKIN LİLLAH
ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH
ALLAH HAKKIN LİLLAH

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>those soldiers

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>Al Sa'ud

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Nowhere in that article is the tricolor codified as an official national flag.

There’s also two different posters here, which is obvious by the post times and lack of continuity in responses. Idiot.

Is that game fun yet?

I have 300 hours into HOI4 and I still fucking suck ass. It's my first grand strategy game. I went non-aligned Britain with Edward and I invaded Iraq and Saudi Arabia for the oil. I then declared on Iran while WW2 lite was happening in Europe. I still don't know how to fight in the mountains. I had 500,000 manpower at the beginning of the war, and after going to extensive conscription and bringing my army from the entire fucking world I still had a really hard time. In the end, I had 0 manpower but I eventually beat em. So hurray.

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Should’ve played DH

>nationalist movement chooses the flag a century before Weimar
>nationalist parliament chooses it as its flag
>but it's totally just the weimar tricolor

>persia in tact
ok this is based

I am unironically too brainlet for most of the big Grand Strategy Games by Paradox. Mainly because the Tutorials are a nightmare to go through even if you pirated all the DLC. A friend of mine even offered to play multiplayer with me to try and get me to figure out how to play it, but it doesn't work because we keep on doing something wrong.
How the fuck do people play these games? Am I just a brainlet?

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id rather watch paint dry than play this boring genre

You're probably a mega brainlet if paradox games are legitimately giving you a hard time.

"yeh i plai bran bratetigy gaims!! :D"

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I feel like you're telling yourself they're too complicated without even giving a serious shot
these games are not hard
you can paint the map as most nations without a single fucking clue, all the nitty gritty shit can be mostly ignored unless you play some OPM on the hardest difficulty

of fucking course it's two posters, I told one of them I disproved their claim and the other to look at my post
are you too stupid to read?
>fleet ensign isn't a national flag
yeah okay and the Union Jack was only first officially used in the 1700s right? who cares about it being used on ships in the mid 17th century

>unrecognized as legitimate by German states for nearly a century
Yep. You said it.

>How the fuck do people play these games?
watch a youtube tutorial letsplay (around 4 hours) then aimlessly play the game for 50 hours before figuring out how to actually play then spend another 50 hours getting good at it (after which you become so good that actually playing the game becomes trivial and boring)

gee I wonder whether this guy might be a zoomer

If its so fucking easy that bumfucks from Yea Forums can do it then what stopped Hitler from achieving those results?

>different
>EU4 with Rome skin and even less content
While technically that's right

it would have been the flag if it wasnt for m*Narchs

Civ 5 is legitimately no less strategic than Paradox games

>of course I fucking knew it was two posters, that’s why I’m so fucking calm and collected after being fucking called out
Ok retard

>fleet ensign =/= national flag
That’s correct. They are two different things.

Deutschland uber alleles

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memes aside, it's because Germany is the main driver of WW2 so most people play it and Paradox gives it huge buffs
>he said fucking he must not be calm!
so just like you then
and the quote post -> write a line -> quote other post -> write a line style is common and should be immediately obvious to anyone who has been here longer than 2 weeks
>That’s correct. They are two different things.
okay very epic, good job, great argument

Are you implying Germans are known for HOOK NOSES and SMALL CHINS?

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Hitler couldn't savescum

at least change the filenames so youre not as obvious of a cringe poltard

Still crying?

>it's a fat /pol/ neckbeards live vicariously through video games episode
getting real tired of these reruns

because I'm responding? yeah, same as you

youtu.be/vcKWrl9qwK8
Johan on suicide watxh

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Other than Crete, this is fine by me.

Yeah I get too scared off by the amount of UI options and think that if I click one wrong option my entire nation will die in a few seconds. You're definitely right about me not giving them a serious shot. I just click on a few options, then see a few people have died and have no clue where to go next and quit because I realise I need more time to reseach, then I reseach and go absolutely nowhere.
That sounds fucking boring and does not resolve my problem at all.

The banks are too fucking big and too corrupt for even bases countries like ITALY, GERMANY, and JAPAN to take down.

The horde of idiots didn't understand. They were sold a series of untrue sob stories, now the children of the "allies" are all miseducated wagecucks with no property.

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I used to, until Paradox started releasing DLC every other month. Besides the cost, I can't keep up with the changes in these games anymore. I don't have time to learn new mechanics every 8 weeks.

Leftists are worse and statistically fatter

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>remove actual features like travel options in order to "balance" the game

So now everyone is forced to use jumpgates? I loved my wormhole generators back at release...

>getting genuinely triggered from a response to a grobergermaniums memepost
Your humiliation was earned.

/pol/ is Yea Forums shillstein

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>genuinely triggered
back to tumblr

wtf I love socialism now

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Everyone uses hyperlanes, unless you have Jump Drives (end-game tech that hastens the arrival of The Unbidden) or Jumpgates, which are Mass Effect-style portals from one Gate to another.

>>/pol/ is Yea Forums shillstein
no, /pol/ simply became the new Yea Forums and inherited Yea Forums's delusions about being wanted and applauded on every board

That's stupid. Haven't played in forever but i'm sure i haven't missed anything.

>vice

Losing your virginity to a man doesn't count. Actually it counts as -500 sex points.

I really couldn't give a shit, this memery has become stale as fuck ever since "muh rare pepes" started being spammed

I shiver at the thought of /pol/tards ruling such a large area.

based

>2300
>100k fleet
Literally how in the name of fuck are you people playing this game to snowball so ridiculously fast?

All I wanted, was to play as Carthage and burn Rome to the ground. That's all I wanted.
So of course the game has to be complete garbage

just roleplay bro

It WOULD take years. If they weren't busy thinking about what the most graceful way to abandon ship on Johan's shitty project is.

What do you think of Hegemony: Rome and Alea Iacta Est?

>tfw no Victoria II mod with languages as independent from cultures

yes
hoi4 or eu3. EU4 is garbage even if you pirate

they ended it at that date because their fucking peacetime mechanics fucking suck dick.

Man, Mewar is really the Prussia of India.

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any good videos for learning hoi4?

why the fuck does CK+ keep crashing

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i would if I knew anything about warcraft lore, I think i'll miss out on too much and wont find fun roleplay opportunities