>everyone on Yea Forums trashes it
>plays it for the first time three months ago
>genuinely one of the greatest games I’ve ever played
Everyone on Yea Forums trashes it
Felt the same, op.
i just arrived at terra tower, im confused as fuck with the plot and there are far too many party members in the game
The plot is absolutely retarded, preachy and decided to take a dump on Trigger for zero reason.
Character roster is insanely huge so 90% of them don't get any characterization whatsoever.
Most of the character designs are ugly beyond reason.
>genuinely one of the greatest games I’ve ever played
Congrats on playing your tenth game!
Adding to this, the battle OST is shit and the game drags later on.
>zoomer discovers how to emulate for the first time
>plays cross before trigger and thinks it's a cute anime game with some 2deep4u plot lines
Congrats on being blissfully ignorant.
It has problems but genuinely the most kino video game aesthetic ever.
>implying Yea Forums knows anything about video games
>ugly
You take that back, those massive hands are cute!
>everyone
OP there are a lot of us who fucking loved Chrono Cross. Yeah, it had its weaknesses of course. And specifically it wasn't at all "Chrono Trigger 2" which is what a lot of autists wanted, it was its own unique thing. But it was fucking awesome, great world, great experience, some of the best art direction and look of the PS1-era, and one of the best OSTs of the PS1-era.
Remember Yea Forums is full of edgy contrarians who will see something that's popular and an 8 or 9/10 and call it 1/10.
its not a cute anime game with some 2deep4u plot lines because another game exists in the chrono universe. Great post.
You need to stop listening to triggerniggers.
>And specifically it wasn't at all "Chrono Trigger 2" which is what a lot of autists wanted
I never wanted any followup to Trigger to begin with.
One of the biggest Cross' faults is that it IS a followup to Trigger that shits all over it.
boomers still seething it wasn't chrono trigger 2.
>that shits all over it.
It doesn't though.
>Yea Forums
>chronically wrong
What else is new?
Trigger fanboys love shittalking Cross because they're too stupid to understand even the basic premise. You can usually tell from their endless whining about how it "shits on" the previous game's accomplishments. Meanwhile it does anything but.
It does. Thematically it goes full fucking retard with its "humans are the blight on the world" bullshit. All Trigger characters get fucked over for no reason.
People hate it because it isn't Chrono Trigger 2 and because of that one bit that rubbed off wrong on Trigger fans.
Also people don't like the many party members but at the same time a good chunk of Yea Forums loves Suikoden... Makes you think.
I love both equally, but apparently you're a zoomer if you do, even if you're not, because some retards on Yea Forums again and again fail to comprehend other people like other things and want to turn it into an echo chamber just like all other social media.
Cross is the ultimate proof Yea Forums is nothing but zoomers who have shit taste becuase most of the retards here dislike it.
its a genuinely excellent game and probably one of the best examples of Low Poly and jRPGs
Music is excellent, gameplay is fun. locations are great, characters (while not fleshed out, are memorable and good looking, theres a choice for every taste) it has great challenge that weeds out weaklings.
Trigger fags are just boomers in denial.
>Thematically it goes full fucking retard with its "humans are the blight on the world" bullshit
It literally doesn't though! Are you fucking stupid or did you just not finish the game or something? The dragons are literally part of the final enemy you seek to destroy that join up with Lavos, and you do so. The whole "bad humans" thing is enemy propaganda brought about by the far future descendents of the lizard people from CT in an alternate reality where they won and exterminated humans. Then they get their shit kicked in by Chronopolis.
In the end humans win and that's not shown as a bad thing at all. It's a bit of a genuine twist that it seems at first like it's going to be some "oh evil tech is bad FATE is all bad" like is so common in JRPGs but no, FATE was actually the human created AI and sought to defend humanity from the bio-AIs made by the filthy lizards.
Like this is actually interesting to me, is this why so many people didn't like CC, because they just couldn't comprehend or didn't get far enough to get this? FFS.
>The dragons are literally part of the final enemy you seek to destroy that join up with Lavos, and you do so. The whole "bad humans" thing is enemy propaganda brought about by the far future descendents of the lizard people from CT in an alternate reality where they won and exterminated humans. Then they get their shit kicked in by Chronopolis.
God, just reading this shit makes you wonder what the fuck Masato Kato was smoking when he wrote this story.
never played the games but i can play radical dreamers on guitar sweet song
>You didn't like game I like? You must be low IQ, unlike myself.
The fatal flaw of this game is the battle music. It's shit. IIR the rest of the music is great.
I wish someone would mod the game to change this.
Clearly the mayor of porre being swayed by a piece of jerky is a far superior plot
How do you beat the fucking Hydra? I keep getting one shotted when he's almost dead, completely unfair. Difficulty spiked a lot for no reason. I've got the doctor and the caveman with me.
>Clearly the mayor of porre being swayed by a piece of jerky is a far superior plot
Makes more sense than him raising an army with Dalton and conquering the entire Zenan continent in five years. Also, it was his ancestor who was swayed, not the mayor himself.
It got a solid 10, the shitposting will never stop user
Other than the whole "not CT2" thing, I think the battle music might be the most divisive thing about Chrono Cross. Seriously I see either your opinion or the opposite defending the track multiple times in every CC thread, and not even just on Yea Forums.
>>everyone on Yea Forums trashes it
What are you talking about? Its one of Yea Forums's most beloved games.
Are you new?
The only thing people don't like is the unnecessary connection to Trigger, but mechanically, aesthetically and design wise, its a 10/10 title that even got rated as such in a time where it really wasnt as common as it is today.
>to Trigger that shits all over it.
Lmao Trigger was a decent standard SNES JRPG but nothing more than that.
CC is ten times the game that Trigger never was.
Trigger isnt even the best RPG on its own console and gets surpassed by Terranigma.
Well yeah...but it's not Chrono Trigger so it's bad...
>no rebuttal
Typical.
>Trigger isnt even the best RPG on its own console and gets surpassed by Terranigma.
Nah, Terranigma had some pretty rough spots with its level scaling and boss fights. Trigger is a smooth ride from start to finish and has much better pacing and design.
>expecting a "rebuttal" for a bunch of shitty opinions and that's it
whew
>and decided to take a dump on Trigger for zero reason.
its like you're pretending it wasn't written by the same person who has stated they executed on the vision exactly as it was
I don't hate it but I kinda see the dislike of it. It's rather low energy and just comes off poorly.
It does sounds a little better in Radical Dreamers though
wait there are unintended consequences for messing with the flow of time? its not just happily ever after?? fuck this game.
>Its one of Yea Forums's most beloved games.
???????
No, no it fucking isn't.
>preachy
How?
>decided to take a dump on Trigger
How?
>Character roster is insanely huge so 90% of them don't get any characterization whatsoever.
Hi individual who has never played JRPGs.
>Most of the character designs are ugly beyond reason.
Most of your opinions are shit beyond reason. Answer the questions so we can all laugh at you wholeheartedly
I don't see how you could claim something so untrue and have the balls to try and call someone else new. It's as hated as FF VIII on here.
t. newfag
>facts are opinions because I don't like them
Again, typical.
Enjoying your first week I see.
We've had circlejerk threads for this game on this board when you weren't even born yet.
>its like you're pretending it wasn't written by the same person who has stated they executed on the vision exactly as it was
Kato was kept on a tight leash by Horii and Sakaguchi during CT's development, which helped wrangle in some of his wackier ideas. I seriously doubt those two wanted Cross to take the direction that Kato took it. And you can't say their input doesn't matter - they're the ones who led and organized CT as a project.
>Hi individual who has never played JRPGs.
Man, what the flying fuck is this annoying retort? Are you saying that people who play lots of JRPGs take problems like an overabundance of party members for granted and not be allowed to complain about it.?
Yea Forums usually loves this game. You just put blinders on and pay attention to the few negative posts about it because you have special snowflake syndrome.
t. 20 something who thinks he's old.
You're both retards and ave never actually read Chrono Cross threads here. Just because the game is posted about doesn't mean it's loved, you illiterate chucklefucks.
>Enjoying your first week I see.
>"It's one Yea Forums's moved beloved games"
The irony.
Don't respond, that just encourages them.
Are yo going to expand on the dumb claims you made, or keep dodging like a child?
>preachy
How?
>decided to take a dump on Trigger
How?
But the objective fact is that the plot is good and doesn't dump on trigger at all, and most of the character designs are great. How can you be so objectively wrong and still keep breathing?
I dont get why the hate with Cross. It literally shows, along with Trigger, how they fucked up and created shitty timelines after the Mammon machine incident. It's not that hard to understand.
>Yea Forums usually loves this game.
No way user. It's unironically "divisive", in fact one of the rare vidya that genuinely for real seems to be "love it or hate it", unlike all the games people always say are that way but aren't really. But CC has always really gotten Yea Forums going, anons who think it's dogshit vs those who thinks it's awesome and not a whole lot between them.
Just seems to have settled that way despite the fact that the latter are correct and it's awesome and the former are all wrong.
I'm not the same person as you were previously addressing. I'm just saying that point is bullshit.
>facts
We both know everything you posted is literally your personal opinion, you simp.
>the plot is good
>doesn't dump on trigger at all
>most of the character designs are great
>objective fact
You just said the inverse of those statements are opinions, congrats on outing yourself as a baiting retard.
Some is and some isn't, it's a fact that the roster is bloated and most of them don't get characterization while it's an opinion that the plot is shit. That doesn't mean I can't easily back up both statements though.
Chrono Cross seems to be a perfect example of a game you can't discuss normally on Yea Forums.
It isn't though. Play more games.
ANSWER. THE FUCKING QUESTIONS YOU FUCKING RETARD . STOP DODGING HOLY SHIT
But it's one of the boards most beloved! It's my 4th dat from Rebbit lol!
>one of the greatest games I’ve ever played
you have not played many games then.
Nah it's a great game, go away Trigger babby
>Yea Forums is one person
its the best PSX game and has the best OST of all time.
CC is the definition of a game with heart.
>preachy
It's preachy because it waxes a shit ton of rhetoric about destiny, consequences, and humanity in massive late game plot dumps to try and raise the stakes of its own narrative. Read through some of Balthasar's or Lynx's dialogue, or hell, even the ghosts of the 1000 AD CT cast. Lots of pretentious tripe in there.
>decided to take a dump on Trigger
The events thought up by Kato to continue Trigger's continuity are pretty stupid. Porre taking over Zenan and conquering Guardia is stupid. The existence of a parallel world where the Reptites became the Dragonians and did some other shit is stupid. Every playable character in CT from 1000 AD and beyond dying is stupid. Balthasar being a 5D chess playing keikakumancer is stupid.
>"I"
Wow you have awful taste, OP.
Just awful, fucking awful taste...
Completely awful.
End your life.
>You just said the inverse of those statements are opinions
And you just said the inverse of those statements were facts what now child?
>The existence of a parallel world where the Reptites became the Dragonians and did some other shit is stupid.
I mean, you say that but there was an ending in CT where that happens if I remember right.
>having such bad taste he dislikes CC
You should just launch yourself in a rocket into the sun now user your life is unsalvageable.
Neither of those questions relate to what I said, what's your point?
Not that guy but:
>decided to take a dump on Trigger
Inferior art style, got caught up with the sort of battle system experiments that plagued PS1 JRPGs instead of being like CT which was, even for the time, a fairly streamlined system with one neat gimmick in dual/triple techs. All of the main characters unceremoniously killed off screen and all of their work negated, which was not the case in Radical Dreamers. Parallel timelines destroy the singular timeline framework of CT. Why are there dragons out of nowhere and what the hell do they have to do with CT?
>Hi individual who has never played JRPGs.
CT is in the 10%.
>Most of the character designs are ugly beyond reason.
It's true though, seething won't help you.
Tips on good PS1 rpgs?
Beaten:
>Grandia
>FFVII-IX
>Xenogears
>Breath Of Fire III
Yeah, a non-canon joke ending, much like half of those in that game. Well, until CT DS happened and introduced that colony of Reptites that survived the fall of Lavos and formed their own society on some remote island on the northeastern-most part of the world. But we don't talk about all the bullshit that version introduced to tie itself more closely to CC. It just adds more fuel to an already putrid dumpster fire.
>what's your point?
cross is better than most other jrpgs and is a personal favorite of mine, the battle system is very unique and I love that grinding is nearly nonexistent
I completely agree with the first two points (except maybe the preachy part) and add that the game focuses more on set scenes rather than interesting characters and a coherent story (like most subsequent Final Fantasy).
The third point is more subjective.
This is what most Cross threads are filled with, not praise.
No, the reptite joke ending is not the same as a parallel timeline; CT works on one persistent timeline that has parts of it rewritten, not parallel timelines.
Wild ARMS and Wild ARMS 2
Dragon Quest VII
Arc the Lad 2 if you're into srpg
Legend of Dragoon
maybe the first two personas I haven't played them personally
might as well paly chrono cross as well
So you don't actually have one and are grasping at nothing in a poor attempt at bait. 4/10 for getting me to play along for a while.
You were both already blown out earlier in the thread. Take your garbage fire 'hot takes' and fuck off to a Trigger thread, fanboys.
All Chrono Trigger characters fucking died in a fire.
They had godlike powers and they defeated LAVOS, they could've easily cast some shit like blizzaga, but NO, because the edgy feline needed to succeed for plot reasons.
>So you don't actually have one and are grasping at nothing
You're mentally deficient. You don't know what the word "I" means. Incredible.
imagine having to (You) yourself
>talk like you're the person who made the original post.
>confused when people assume you're the original person that made the post
Both of you should fuck off, regardless.
I made my point clear, if that's just going to be ignored then I have nothing else to say.
Imagine making a meaningless post.
> in an alternate reality where they won and exterminated humans
shitting all over the structure of the universe established in CT, like I said. Everything beyond that point is irrelevant.
His design was awesome. Wish he wasn't a jobber tho
>Have a character named Slash as a reference to the musician in the JP script
>Can't call him Slash because another character in Trigger got renamed as Slash as a reference despite his original name being a joke about sauces
>Have to call him Nikki instead because muh localization
T...thanks Woolsey.
Play the SaGa games.
Fuck off.
I think Cross is a good game but a bad sequel to Trigger, also didn't like that 90% of the plot was explained to you literally right before you fight the last boss.
same guy from
I forgot to say play Breath of Fire IV if you liked III
it has wonderful sprite art and one my favorite jrpg antagonists
Beware if you're a physicalfag though it'll run you about 60usd
still a good reference imo I love Motley Crue
Also happened in the MegaMan series where they changed Vava from MMX to Vile and then they had to change Dr. Vile from MMZ to Dr. Weil.
Was the english version of BoF4 ever hacked to remove the censorship?
>shitting all over the structure of the universe established in CT
Except not at all. CT never addressed many-worlds hypothesis at all, and that you messing with the timeline might split off a new universe each time meaning that every (non-joke) CT ending is canon. It just wasn't something in the game, nor would it actually matter since it'd still make sense for you to try to create a good end universe through your own efforts. It doesn't mess with CT one bit by definition.
I don't think so sadly