What's gonna happen in 2-3 years when everyone is maxed out on everything...

never ever, retail cuck

I think expansion specific servers are unlikely because it's opening the Pandora's box. You know there's some weirdo out there going "Mists of Pandaria was PEAK WoW, I want to play that again".

Shit is not even out yet and fuckers already want next thing

Smart money is they continue to release expansions at a steady pace until they catch up with live, at which point they will start over again.

I'd bet money what prevented Classic from happening until community outcry with the whole Nostalrius getting enough attention and all was just executives not deeming it worth the effort. Keep in mind Classic as such probably required back end work, but no new content as such. Everything is already in the game.

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its going to happen. classic is just a repeat of history.
youtube.com/watch?v=fLWuADfyq7E
this is blizzards core demographic

Keep in mind that contrary to popular opinion vanilla is not for everyone. It's just people getting easily swept up the bandwagon. Most will give it a week, give up and go back to retail/whatever they're playing.

You don't know MMO players.
There are the biggest nerds who constantly want content and loot pinatas to satisfy their virtual ego since they have no life.

They will close the servers since everyone will be playing on retail

yup, and they'll definitely not change anything in order to try to get more people back on, for sure

I always thought this girl had a nice voice to listen to but jesus she lost the genetic lottery.

Blizzard is an out of touch, soulless husk of it's former self but they're not stupid enough to make two games compete with each other.

If they do update Classic I think they'll at least *try* to keep the old long investment slow progression RPG style while making retail more fast-paced and instance-y.

They won't because it would be pointless and just piss off another potential income avenue. Have Classic crowd and have Retail crowd. They're all paying $15.

>a jew
>lost genetic lottery

>get to level 15
>never occurs to her to go into options and turn instant quest text

I don't think there will be specific servers, I think they will just continue Classic into BC. Too many people like BC for them not to do it. Every expansion gets worse and worse though so who knows what will happen.

it's a blizzcon demo with instant 15 premades

People wanted vanilla WoW not a progression server, though.

>Alliance
>Obviously

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It's not even how stupid she is as much as her insufferable know-it-all attitude while doing it. I am amazed.

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And by the time BC 'Classic' comes out they will have had it for a year+ They will be itching for something new. You are thinking in the present not the future.

if blizzard was smart they'd take their time with phase content updates

And then people will want the OG experience again?
That was the whole point of bringing classic back in the first place : Being always able to play vanilla.

The "no changes" fags will make sure that doesnt happen

People have the attention span of a gnat. After they have had classic for a year they will want something new.

If the no changes crowd had that much influence, they never would have added layering. If I’m not mistaken, they did say they were open to osrs style updates

its still pathetic as shit. Watch her die after aggroing 50 mobs 10 min in, the offended "wtf i can die in a video game" shit is foul

But seriously, they should balance the specs some at least. For example, ret pally was pretty viable in the beta. Then they decided to remove Crusader Strike for some reason making ret unplayable for all of vanilla only to add it back in in BC and make ret viable again.

You don't even know if classic is going to be a success on the long time or if people will indeed beg for TBC (the trash expac). Also there's always retail.

No-changes fags want Classic to be classic. BC was not Classic. People are pretty unanimous about what is bad about BC.
Flying mounts
Welfare epics
PvP epics and progression
Resilience
Now if zoomers and family fucks start wanting it, dumbass ideas will start flooding into the mix like sharding, level sync.

>classic WoW isn't even out yet
B-but guys what will happen 3 years from now?

>for some reason
Kevin Jordan deemed it too similar to warrior gameplay, he was against homogenization and so tried to flesh out the seal system

TBC classic. There's your next 2 years, easy.

Keep classic, Classic.

Just use new servers to experiment with, everyone is happy.

Finishing all the cut vanilla content would be nice, not to mention all the 'old world' things they added in expansions that could just be slotted in after some tweaks, Karazhan is something that springs to mind.

Depends on the person really, a significant amount probably just want blizzard to push the reset button so they can try again without fucking everything up.
Time will tell what the majority end up wanting, whether that's a periodically reset vanilla server or a progression one, chances are they'll do both if there's enough of a playerbase for them
A periodically reset server doesnt exactly require much work other than routine maintenence after all.

They need to earn good will first before making weird changes.

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>these are the trannies that say classic will fail

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>pick pally in classic
>best healer in classic for pvp and second best for pve
>if they release BC still be best pvp healer and still top teir pve healer
>if they relese wotlk be can be top teir pvp healer and pvp dpser and top teir pve doser and healer.
I 100% plan on grinding corrupted ashbringer as well

Today boomkins don't ruin out of mana and tomorrow we'll get a fucking LFR. NO CHANGES!

Screeching retards aside something like that requires trust between developers and community. And Blizzard is so out of touch with their fan base it's not even funny. I had more pleasant experiences with real life bureaucrats.

Night Elf.
Male.
Druid.

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And have 3 version of WoW? No way. The drug addict who always want more will play retail, that's all.

because your time could be better spent, and thats not meant to be a jab at retail, but honestly there is no point in playing retail if you're not raiding/pushing high keys, or doing some sort of progression

so...pick pally?

she actually isn't a tranny, she really did just have this happen to her .
but at least she makes guides for raids and has one of the less annoying voices/better quality mics

i made this for you

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>best healer pvp
heh

hello anime tranny, i see you lurk every thread and pounce with this picture

Wait, there are trannies that unironically want to play TBC again???
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Retail is for you, 4 elf races, you won't believe it!

What is stopping Blizzard from giving Classic brand new, exclusive content like how OSRS gets exclusive content?

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I use INV ASMON LAYER as well. Don't judge me.

We see where that got him.

Because people asked for Classic WoW, No changes

I mean, this is the current type of WoW player that retail caters to. Classic is bringing back all the people who weren't morons and dropped the game when it went to shit. (Late TBC)

youre an annoying faggot, knock it off

It would be a big threat to retail and the Warcraft franchise as a whole.

I wonder if they'll put the cucked bosses in from release or put in the nuclear bomb shatter Gruul as he was on release.

No.

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dont worry, they'll fuck it up somehow, you people are fucking crazy if you think they wont make QoL changes for the kind of room temperature IQ player in the video

My dream is that classic turns out like OSRS, minus major changes like the grand exchange.

dick is diamonds buddy

They are the best healer in pvp, cleanse, BoP, BoF, and bubble. Other healers can get locked down and stunned/interrupted/poly'd etc.

No better ally to a warrior than a paladin.

>Retail
[server]
[server]
[server]
>Classic
[{Vanilla} server]
[{TBC} server]
[{TBC} server]

Not exactly difficult to implement from a technical perspective, but again it depends on the amount of people who would want it.

cuz the loud minority wants their couple of months of nostalgia over years of sustainable content.

I'm doing the same. It's pretty shitty but leveling a new character is distraction enough for me.

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They will create progression servers that add in patches and expansions at an accelerated rate. They might allow transfers of Classic characters onto them.

Literally just copy the diablo 3 system they have.
When they finish making tbc, announce that before release you can either a) migrate your character to the TBC expansion b) migrate your character to a non-seasonal classic realm.
Ideally after WOTLK, they can just announce that from now on there will be a 2 year release cycle of classic/tbc/wotlk with one of the expansion always beign the currently active ladder realms, and three non-ladder realms that allow you to play any expansion you like.
It requires zero maintenance from Blizzard, and leaves the window open to expand the game with newer patches every new ladder if they'd like to.

Because OSRS took years to build up enough exclusive content to get a growing playerbase after people dropped the game after a couple of months. They're not comparable games though, OSRS added alot of content to ease the mid-game grind but that'd just be like adding another UBRS/LBRS which wouldn't help the people who are burnt out after Naxx. The only thing I could see happening is Blizzard porting over existing raids but tune them for 40 man content

Pallys are why ally won premades

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>People keep saying they need to release TBC afterwards
>Main world is dead again as everyone is now AFK in Shattrath
>No one is raiding MC, less than 1% of the playerbase has beaten Naxx again because TBC made it irrelevant
>People are now asking for Classic Classic

Why are people so fucking braindead? If they were to release post classic content, increasing the level cap and releasing quest greens that are better than raiding epics would be an awful idea. I would totally be open to them re-imagining old unfinished zones but in the classic timeline. Let us go into Hyjal, let us explore some classic version of Gilneas, release some raid in Uldum.

IMO releasing any sort of expansion that makes large swathes of previous content irrelevant would be the death of classic and cause a new resurgence of private servers.

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they started to monetize the game in Wrath so they will like to advance it to that stage to do it while saying it is vnailla like

Whatchu gonna do as a priest when an undead rogue pops out and starts stunlocking your shit while your friend while he's fighting someone else and needs heals/dispels etc?

scream? Nope undead
shield? sure but you are still stunned and now your friend is out of heal range
mind control? kick
heal? kick
use engineering shit to run away? Nope, sprint.

Too similar to warrior because it was an instant attack? I guess, but it would still have been better than having a completely unusable spec.

>feared
>trinket
>blinded
>stoneform
>seduce
>bubble
>hoj
>team kills warlock and rouge cuck
Nothing personal kid

They would have to make content for 2 mmos. That would cost huge money and would only happen if classic blows up like WoW originally did. They would probably need to hidlrebmore staff.

I've been looking forward to this but my best friend decided he wants to play on a PvE server of all things.

Wtf do I do.

Keep thinking this m8 ill enjoy unlimited mana and 60 lives

arent druids and disc priests the best pvp healers in tbc

how bad wow is correlates strongly with how bullshit paladins are

Tell him to man up and stop being a baby.
Otherwise, get better friends.

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>Requirements
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>About us
Since the majority of the player base here consists of shitters, we are recruiting from other places too (mostly theory-crafting discords). Our core comes from a top 20 guild in retail, so we know what we are doing unlike most of the guilds here which had 10 years and achieved nothing.

>Application
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THE JEWS FEAR NFA

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I can understand wanting no changes, but do people not want vanilla to be balanced?
Like make paladin tanking better like it was in TBC, or make druid and warlock not so terrible compared to warriors in pvp?

Not something huge like, warlocks tanking 5mans, even if that would be pretty neat, since life drain tanking sounds fun. But something minor to atleast make the trash classes actually less of an uphill struggle for raiding or pvping.

Like make shadow priests being acceptable in bigger numbers for raiding instead of just bringing one for the debuff to help warlocks out.

Yeah he didn’t think it was a complete success, but they did try tweaking things. A tiny buff to seal of righteousness’s damage had the pally slam dunking every other class

Pallys are still top teir because now they can wear plate and still have op blessings and auras

retail is balanced, play that. Vanilla is rogue mage warrior priest game, snowflakes belong in the corner

Literally happened to me. I thought I was going to be Dps/off healer if needed. Nope. Ended up spamming flash of light.

Today boomkins don't ruin out of mana and tomorrow we'll get a fucking LFR. NO CHANGES!

All I remember from TBC PvP was that Druid/Paladin combo was near unkillable in 2v2 arena

NO. FUCKING. CHANGES. NEVER. NOT NOW. NOT IN 2020. NOT IN 2025.

The seal system just needed to be reworked I think, but they gave up on that starting in tbc for the most part

>partner actually needing healing for the duration of being raped
>not juking kicks
>arbitrarily placing friend out of range
>not playing with a warrior

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some people want no changes.

some people want similar balance to TBC.

i personally want an OSRS style polling system put in place in a few months after the zoomers realize what a grind vanilla is and drop it

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8 days.

8 fucking days.

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Classes in vanilla were built around the concept of primary roles, not talents deciding your role. This is why priests and paladins and whatnot are better healers. When they started homegenizing the game in tbc is when it started going to shit

A pally and a warrior team would kick a priest and a warrior teams ass warriors are hard counterd by CC and a pallu counters this

Yah rdudu and disc were easily the best PvP healers in area. I played a Druid on Warmane for a while and being able to hot and run is really strong. Even if they catch you, you can go bear and wait for the peel. Mostly just pop out from around pillars, hot, and pop back behind.

if it was 2 sets of bots, sure

>tfw you share this board with "people" who will unironically play alliance

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if you buff paly tanks it's straight to wrath aoe facerolling, paly/druid can tank 10/20 man fine

Hey vanilla Alliance was the only Alliance worth playing

>Using skill to out play your opponents while using a sub optimal build
>Not doing the same thing but with an optimal build
>Claiming the optimal build + skill isn't the best

For what purpose

Reminder that bc and wotlk are shit tier expansion even mop was better if they add anything classic+. If you think bc or wotlk were good kill yourself.

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Any serious player will go alliance, enjoy playing with a million ud rogues and troll warriors

>implying classhit will last more than a month
it will die the very second asmongoloid's zoom zooms realize it's a shit game and unsub. so the first month.

Friendly reminder that all the cancerous memers that destroyed Yea Forums likely played "for the horde"

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It sounds like you are more worried about blizzard being incompetent, then the actual changes themselves.
I mean blizzard are incompetent, but it's ok to want good things yaknow.

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If it's popular, they will obviously continue with TBC, and so on.

>t. SEETHING alliance ERP tranny

Why do you say obviously? Not all of us are fans of TBC and would like to see more Vanilla content instead

Explain how a priest is a better pvp healer then a pally.

given how prevalent the kek meme became, hard to say he’s wrong

TBC was the best expansion, fite me

Classic won't even last 2 - 3 months, let alone years. You guys are delusional.

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t. sl/sl lock

"kek" is from old school korean starcraft, though?

I wish classic was an alternate timeline in which other clans ions get released, but with the original wow game design window, none of this “bending the knee” to casual complains should be allowed
Imagine wrath but no lfd, no various difficulties, no silly tokens for loot, etc

>All streamers decided to roll on a single server
>as did their sycophants
>Not even the server that Blizzard is telling people not to roll on any more because it's full and they face 10k queues on release

You are making the same mistake that the moronic streamers like that dipshit who tried to start a black list made, overestimating how big they actually are and how much influence they have.

Spoiler: It's fuck all.

t. druid cuck

this. it's the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.
>dude wow classic will destroy retail and XVI and everything else that lives in my head rent free and it's going to be the new fortnite and bring a new era of vidya
classicucks are unhinged

kek is what alliance sees when horde types lol

actually no, I was a paladin

>ERP tranny
>Didn't actually become a thing until well after vanilla

It was all about barrens chat and chuck norris jokes back then, kid.

This, I would have liked if they balanced some of the unplayable specs, mostly Druid and paladín but it’s possible that even the slight changes will shift balance a lot

Imagine the whole of WoW slowly being redeveloped to be more like Classic. No welfare epics anymore, no flying mounts, no dungeon finder, no raid finder, no absurdly high damage and health numbers... man, that would be fucking amazing.

it's a reference to an older meme
'keke' is the korean version of 'haha'

t. blood elf tranny

ugh, theres nothing worse than feeling someone else's stubble sandpaper across your arm first thing in the morning

Dwarf female paladin

Does it matter? Your histeria around Classic will still be priceless

Most /pol/ election tourists play Alliance.
Alliance is unironically the edgy faction now.

sure there is, sleeve tattoos

This. "kekekeke" used to be spammed in starcraft
That's why they made it so that in WoW lol+language barrier = kek

Am I the only person on Yea Forums who loved the Blood Elves for real gameplay reasons? Playing as a Mage Blood Elf MALE was my favorite time in WOW ever.

Eversong Woods is an amazing starting zone. My only regret is Silvermoon City being abandoned for fucking Org of all places.

>>Didn't actually become a thing until well after vanilla
Night Elves were part of the Alliance since vanilla

>mana burn
>more damage
>aoe cc
>mind control
>offensive dispel

Wow referenced it yeah but the meme here is kek not keke

none of those things have anything to do with healing

if you want more damage bring a mage along with you they do way more damage than a priest.

Nice meme tranny

Nope, unlike goats BElves weren't loreraped except being forced in 2 factions world and making Kael villain completely off screen

Dwarf female paladin, in a duo with a dwarf female warrior.

and? you're the tranny ERP faction now and have been so for a decade and will always be
vanilla is never coming back, classicuck

>Kael villain completely off screen

Please don't remind me. I loved him in WC3.

>Resilience bad!
Biggest brainlet filter in the whole universe.I am saying this as someone who mained Rogue from Classic to Woltk and got Gladiator aswell.

I agree with everything else,except PvP-Epics aswell.Most people never got to shoulder/weapon raiting and even with Resilience in the game people still abused PvE-Items.
PvP is non ironically better with Resilience in the game.

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Eversong and Ghostlands were such good leveling zones. Blood Elves aren't my favorite race, but I can see why so many people play them.

D A P YU VB

reroll

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I hope Wow Classic causes an internal civil war within Blizzard and Activision.

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imagine being this retarded

>explain how a priest is a better """""""pvp"""""""""" healer

"h-huurrrr their offensive kit has nothing to do with being a healer tho, all that matters is the healing spellz!!!"

t. someone who's never been above 1500

>making Kael villain completely off screen
That's a lore rape, considering Kael made the Blood Elves. The Blood Elf lore was all about warcraft 3. TBC nullified their entire campaign. In WoW they are just High Elf who somehow went to Horde.

I want to go back.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZNstdF54ypo

>TBC nullified their entire campaign. In WoW they are just High Elf who somehow went to Horde.
Are you retarded? The fact they went to Horde is already enough proves that Blizzard didn't revamped race totally like draenei

But goldshire ERP faggotry wasn't.
This is a pointless argument though, because you weren't posting here or playing the game at the time, so how could you know?

At the end of the day, the view was Alliance were "normies" or "boring" people while the Horde were the edgy, outcasts and degenerates.

Guess which alligns with trannies more?

My guess is theyll have amuch longer release schedule for content. Vanilla was out for 3 years before TBC dropped, my guess is theyre gonna space the phases after BWL much farther apart, itll be probably close to 4 years before they drop Naxx is my guess.

They might also be using this as a test to change the direction of WoW in general. Moving on from Classic will be a different Xpac from TBC or War4 maybe even.

It also really makes no sense that the humans abandoned the High Elves and threw them out of the Alliance. You know, just their major allies since the second war when they saved their ass.

1500 what? Are you seriously citing arena stats in a wow classic discussion sonny boy? Not only did I get grand marshal I helped two other of my guild mates get it by playing on their accounts.

>Guess which alligns with trannies more?
One what have matriarchat society

So you gotta ignore the rest of my post?
Btw the fact that they went Horde is another dumb thing.
>wot if we joined the faction that tried to genocide us and which is at the opposite of us on the civilization spectrum??

>HoJ
>LoH
>BoP
>HoF
>fire aura for fire mage
>frost aura for frost mage
>shadow aura for warlocks and shadow priest
>Devo Aura for warriors and rouges
>can self peal
>gets mana back when heals crit
>cleanses magic, posion, and diseses
>

>played Horde from TBC to Cata
>quit game
>excited for Classic but want to play Alliance

The Alliance has fucking amazing looking zones and comfy inns and houses but all the male models other than Dwarf look like shit.

This, I’m still making a prot paladín and even though from experience I tanked all the way to bwl, if you buff paladín single target it will be back to wrath
I’m happy pulling entire dungeons and tanking specific shit like whelp rooms or adds

The worst case is Tyrande :
She's eager to help them, have good relations with Kael. During WoW she completely forgets about them and instead goes to suck the dick of some gnoms, dwarves and humans she knew nothing about.
Then in TBC she sends Night Elves to kill them.
I swear TBC is such a garbage expac in terms of lore. Just because the chinkz wanted a pretty race in Horde we got this.

Fuck a polling system, Zoomers outnumber people that actually played classic by a large margin. If you use polls you will just end up with another retail WoW where everything is just given to you and it you want any sort of challenge you need to get mythic purples not normal purples.
Too obvious
PvP epics, even with Resilience, were good in PvE, that was a problem. Handing out any epics at all for PvP just seems really dumb to me. I get that you want to just sit in town queuing for PvP all day but having a system that encourages and promotes doing actual end game content is far better and promotes a social system and living world.
Resilience is bad because it just adds a required stat that you need to stack to be good in PvP, it makes raiders and people that do actual end-game content weaker than people that sit in a queue all day. If you think resilience is good, please give me some reasons why, it is just an atrocious system in my opinion.

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>So you gotta ignore the rest of my post?
Yeah because I already said that making kael villain was a lore-rape and poorly done lore-rape since it hapenned off screen
>Btw the fact that they went Horde is another dumb thing.
>>wot if we joined the faction that tried to genocide us and which is at the opposite of us on the civilization spectrum??
Sounds perfectly fine for them since they already passed the morale/ethic side of the question when they allied with nagas and Illidan and started sucking daemons to get their fix.
And didn't lore mentioned that they cut off all ties with Alliance back in TFT?

I found Horde zone way more comfy. Especially if you are a warcraft 3 player.

I mained a Blood Elf Mage from TBC to Cata becuase Blood Mage was my favorite hero in WC3. I remember being very confused as a kid why the Elves were on the Horde.

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Blood Elves being part of the Horde was destined to happen right when Blizzard decide that there will be only 2 playable factions, Alliance and the Horde
>She's eager to help them, have good relations with Kael.
Yeah because it was before they got green eyes and attacked NElves in Outland
>Then in TBC she sends Night Elves to kill them.
What a lorelet

All the inns and houses are dirt huts or rotting, broken down houses in Undead area. Meanwhile the Alliance everything is clean, nice and lanterns all over

Did anyone come off well during TBC? Atleast Vanilla had excellent writing for your player character with the hand-written class/race notes in the starting zones to hook you in, but every single WC3 character in TBC felt raped and the writing was terrible. Atleast Garrosh being a whiny bitch was a refreshing take on orcs

It's not Horde-Alliance it's more Kalimdor-EK

>Not enjoying camping out in the desert and nature.
Stay in school kid

Turning Blood Elves into High Elves with piss eyes have nothing to do with Kael becoming a villain again.
>Sounds perfectly fine for them since
No it's not perfectly fine to join the genocidal beast that raped your family and are proud of it, embrace their nigger culture, etc. No matter how edgy you became.
And indeed they sided with Nagas and Illidan because it was a matter of life and death. Kael had no other choice. He would be disgusted with the current state of the Blood Elves, hanguing out with the Orcs who destroyed his kingdom, which is probably why the writers had him killed.

So if i wanna do both pvp and pve healing, whats the best bet to pick if they do realse tbc and wotlk

>frogposter
you dont deny anything with that

>Yeah because it was before they got green eyes and attacked NElves in Outland
How does one incident would change Tyrande's view. If she knew about the Outland thing, she would have known that they had no choice but to side with the nagas, etc.
>What a lorelet
That's more or less what happens. Night Elves are enemy NPCs who tries to fuck with the defense of Silvermoon.

I'd like to see them slowly drip feed in new content, like an alternate vereion of what the Hyjal zone might've looked like if it got finished or a dungeon where that portal is in Stratholme
Realistically they'll just stop updating Vanilla entirely and move on to Burning Crusade.

>Running around in the plains of the Barrens
>Watching the gazelles run around
>Drums in the background
>All that nice flat land as you numlock and just watch the terrain go by
Horde might have gotten the short stick in terms of buildings, but their zones are peak comfy to travel around. I don't care if everything is brown and red for 30 levels, I love it.

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ret pally chads check in

>STOP SAYING LAYERING IS BAD! STREAMERS SAID IT IS NECESSARY

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no one said layering is bad retailtranny

>Turning Blood Elves into High Elves with piss eyes have nothing to do with Kael becoming a villain again.
So you was talking about Fury of the Sunwell, also agree
>No it's not perfectly fine to join the genocidal beast that raped your family and are proud of it, embrace their nigger culture, etc.
Projectin much..?
Also, how
>embrace their nigger culture, etc
exactly reflected in the game?
Also2 did you forget about it
youtube.com/watch?v=o5laLYzUU-0

>He would be disgusted with the current state of the Blood Elves, hanguing out with the Orcs who destroyed his kingdom, which is probably why the writers had him killed.
Quite larping

Ahh *cough* ... one last time *cough* .. to revive my past ... *cough* ... friends ... why can't I *cough* see you ... *cough* ... different layer? ... *cough* *cough* ....... not like ... this .... *dies*

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>I don't care if everything is brown and red for 30 levels, I love it.
you know there is a whole other continent right?

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Plans for levelling?

I'm going tank for EZ dungeon finder bonuses / insta-queue

Probably hit 60 in a day lol

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cant wait for barrens bois fuck i like barrens experience so hard man. everything was there enemies difference atmospheres of areas. Especially wailing caverns that still is my fave dungeon.

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>How does one incident would change Tyrande's view.
Because dealing with daemons is probably the biggest NO in Night Elves book?
>That's more or less what happens. Night Elves are enemy NPCs who tries to fuck with the defense of Silvermoon.
As I said lorelet

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>just remade all my characters without losing the reserved names I made

Awww yisss! Finally ready for Classic.

Barrens chat won't be what it used to be. See the people in this thread? That's what barrens will sound like.

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I get your point,that the gear shouldn't be flexible enough to be viable for raids.But even back then you needed some PvE gear in the mix to run Raids,also PvE Gear at the End was always better.
Meanwhile PvE Trinkets,Set Bonuses and Weapons were always notorious for being abused in PvP.
It is just such a non argument,because PvE-Gear even dominated the best PvP-Gear,in Classic/TBC/Woltk.
Especially the Trinkets slots were so garbage compared to PvE trinkets,legendaries also would carry you atleast 200 points.Also a ton of Classes abused PvE-Tier bonuses aswell.
Resilience is legit the only stat,except maybe Stamina,that made PvP-Sets viable for PvP.The PvP-Sets where no way near as good in PvE,as the PvE pieces were in PvP.
Just look at the Woltk Privat Server scene,on the Arena Ladder for 2v2 out 50 teams 48 were Human/Human,because 2 PvE trinkets with new racial is too OP.

Raiding Bis=Full PvE
PvP Bis=Weapons PvE,Trinket PvE,sometimes 2 pieces of PvE for bonuses,or other things like necks for more.
Especially Rogues in TBC after s3 with cheat death were notorious for abusing PvE Gear.Also Warriors/Casters became completly insane at the end of Woltk because of PvE Stats.

>Resilience is bad because it just adds a required stat that you need to stack to be good in PvP, it makes raiders and people that do actual end-game content weaker than people that sit in a queue all day. If you think resilience is good, please give me some reasons why, it is just an atrocious system in my opinion.
But why can't people that compete at 2200 Raiting have better Gear for PvP(which as mentioned before is not BIS in some slots).But raiders can have the best of both worlds?Where is the difference between PvPing a lot,or raiding?

Resilience makes sense,you will see it in classic.If Warrior McThundercock crits with MS or gets a few lucky Swordprocs,PoM Mages,or Rogues in general.
It is just so toxic to get globaled with 0 counterplay.

>Leveled in the barrens countless times in retail pre-cata
>Leveled there a bunch of times on private servers
>Still love the zone and have never gotten sick of it, often staying there until I have to go to another zone
>Find myself leveling characters only to drop them when I'm done with the barrens
How did they make a zone so perfect? I literally can't wait to level there again when Classic comes out. That is, if all my friends weren't all rolling Alliance.

based ACTIVISION CLASSIC™ BVLL

Can I play Shadow Priest in Vanilla or will I ALWAYS be made to spec to Holy.

I think the only solution is just to add new content. If you don't add expansions or new content, the game dies. If you add expansions, which is the easier and more likely route, where do you stop? Eventually it will no longer be "classic" and you'll end up either rereleasing more expansions or allowing the game to die.
New content allows for more longevity and will force the devs to be confined in the classic framework that they're setting up with the rerelease.

If Blizzard adds OSRS polling, classic wow will have transmog and mount cheevos, guaranteed. Retailfags who don't even play classic but still share the same subscription will log over just to vote for them, because they won't play it otherwise. The playerbase loved flying mounts and dungeon finder, you have to realize that people are fucking retarded and don't know what they want.
No changes, just give us burning crusade.

What’s a better class to level along with a rogue
Mage
warrior
Paladin

The autism will not stop. They will REEE their way through expansion reboot after reboot. 5 years later we're here stroking our nostalgia boners once again and shitting up /v with WoW Classic 2 threads

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One SP spot per raid.

Same, just gotta get those heirlooms and mount and sit back in SW queueing like in the good old days

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Rarely in her human form Tatelis is almost always semi-nude almost never wearing a top a reminder of ber beastly nature. Her womanly curves are still apparent in her muscular, furried form.

Her breasts are pillowy and inviting, topped with dark onyx colored nipples and areolaei that stand out against her already dark colored fur. Her broad chest tapers into a slim, muscular waist and then expands into a voluptuous curve at her hips, thighs and rear- her ass being as large as a prize winning pumpkin.

If anything were to draw your eyes to this savage Worgen - it would be the massive poorly hidden member bulging against the crotch of her leathers. The Worgen's thighs squirm together forcing her member to stand out even more as her arousal is foremost on her mind.

Check your calendar again, bud.

paladin

i already contacted some old friends from high school they said they are gonna ''try it''. Cant wait to bring back memories and fucking burning blade medallion.

Unfortunately i believe it will not last long. But im all in for the memories.

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Blizzard incompetence is stopping Blizzard from releasing brand new exclusive content. How can you trust them to understand classic when they fucked up retail?

Warrior for usefulness at 60, Mage for speed/pvp

I'm hoping they go the OSRS route and implement updates that are voted on by the players.

Your tranny race ruined the Horde asthetic more than transmog.

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Was there a single caster weapon on vanilla than when you saw it on someone, it made you realize how much of a badass they were

>implying it wil last even a year

Then they just need to make it so you need to have a level 60 character to vote or something.

I cannot wait to see Yea Forums seethe about how empty servers are in a few months

What about dungeons?

Benediction

>playing Horde

Isnt that what BRs play?

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>benediction/anathema
>that sword from golemagg
>staff of the shadow flame
>rank 14 weapons
Pretty much those only. AQ40 and Naxx loot wasn't all that impressive looking. Biggest joke is that corn staff model from BWL or emerald dragons.

Need cross classes because of pve fags and pvp fags. Nessecary evil. What would a realistic change to bc be?

Atiesh

Blizzard confirmed over 10 million names were reserved early in the week. Seethe more retailtranny.

Really hope they add the vanilla TCG mounts and pets in as cash shop items..

they already added new server because so many people were on the server go seeth more you retail tranny.

Help me out fellas, I am playing casually with a group of friends on alliance, they want to go hunter and mage, I'm thinking of either going tank or healer for 5 mans. What's the most fun between warrior/druid/paladin for this? My main character I play the most will be a priest so I'm excluding that as an option.

>ladders with new gear
>runewords
>tabards as awards for speedruns
>rare drops from the main bosses that can be combined to summon super world bosses
There, I fixed it

No, Yea Forums will make the usual 'I got banned for saying X in chat, how is this legal?' threads for acting like Yea Forums tools on the internet because they can.
I will be reporting every single person who says tranny or racist/edgy things.

The End of Dreams made anyone look 100% more badass than they deserved to be

>scared already

Because blizzard will fuck it up. Just like jagex does to osrs

>Speedruns in classic
Can we fucking not? It's bad enough on retail with everybody having this 'go faster get this shit over with' mentality, we don't need it in Classic too

they are literally bursting at the seams, begging people to not sign up so quickly

How many of those people will give up in a week/month though? How many are tourists trapped in the hype, just to find out they really arent into Vanilla WoW?

>implying she's not hotter than any girl you'd ever get

Remember that Nost had 30 million accounts created. Most people will stay and play. Your time is over, retailtranny.

Normally I'd agree, but it depends on how popular classic becomes - and its looking fairly popular so far.

Anyone going to the BC lights hope servers when classic launches?

She's average at best

>It is just such a non argument,because PvE-Gear even dominated the best PvP-Gear,in Classic/TBC/Woltk.
This is false, sure there were certain PvE items that were good in PvP, but a fully geared PvP player would dominate a fully geared PvE player, that is a problem.
Now before someone gets their panties in a bunch, I like PvP more than PvE. But when you can just grind out your gear by doing battlegrounds all day and then decimate a guy that has been working on actual end-game content for a month, that seems wrong to me. The coolest part about classic was seeing someone with rare items that you had never seen before, if everyone can get epics with little effort then no one is special.
>Resilience is legit the only stat,except maybe Stamina,that made PvP-Sets viable for PvP. The PvP-Sets where no way near as good in PvE,as the PvE pieces were in PvP.
It was a stat created just for PvP...maybe that's why?
>Just look at the Woltk Privat Server scene,on the Arena Ladder for 2v2 out 50 teams 48 were Human/Human,because 2 PvE trinkets with new racial is too OP.
So? The problem is that there is an arena ladder at all. Perfectly balanced 50% winrate shit ruins games and normalizes everything. A Rock-Paper-Scissors system is far superior and more fun.
>Especially Rogues in TBC after s3 with cheat death were notorious for abusing PvE Gear.Also Warriors/Casters became completly insane at the end of Woltk because of PvE Stats.
When you balance a game around 3 v 3, 2 v 2 or any low value of players it is obvious balance issues will arise.
Some classes were better at things than other classes, they were never designed around being in a 3 v 3 arena team.
When you start forcing arena as the main PvP gamemode you legit fuck any fun that may have been in the game. The whole "homogenization" and "balancing" of classes started with arenas, and ever since then the game has suffered. Every class now has to have a heal, CC, escape ability, invulnerability, etc.

I could see BC and maybe Wrath if they make enough from classic. Also MoP was peak post cata.

I knew a full gmarshal druid, his gear was good up to BWL, then he had to raid.

Kael was already a villain in TFT you fucking retard he literally pledges allegiance to the Burning fucking Legion. Just because he starts off sympathetic and you play from his PoV doesn't mean he's not a baddie, by that logic Arthas isn't a baddie either.

I play Warcraft 3 to rinse myself of the lore clusterfuck that happened since then. Other than that working on bfa pathfinder cause why not.

70% of retail servers are dead, they can use datacenters for every expansion there is

How did they clean their faces of frosting?

>pledges allegiance to the Burning fucking Legion
???

watch the blood elves last mission outro

Arthas did LITERALLY nothing wrong

He lied to his men, and betrayed the mercenaries that fought for him.

Yes and??? Why are you fucking lying???

Resilience was bad.
It was good too attempt to give PvP centred players a way of getting to the top without having to raid, but it ended up swinging in completely the opposite direction and rendering PvE gear worthless for it.
All it changed was who was doing the stomping.

It's ok for games to have an end, for content to deplete, and for people to move on
The opposite mentality is why BeefA and it's infinite grind system exists, no one wants to do the same bejeweled minigames a thousand times while hoping for that 0.02% chance at bis gear that will be obsolete in two months anyway

>Kael was already a villain in TFT you fucking retard he literally pledges allegiance to the Burning fucking Legion.
Nope he pledges allegiance to Illididnu

>create new BC only servers

It’s not a hard concept. If Blizzard thinks it will make them money, they’ll do it.

Who became the Legion's lackey for the third time at the end of the campaign, asked Kael and Vashj if they have any problems with it, and they said nope.

>no more skelebros, just twinks and soi orcs

How about ditching the retarded shit where Blood Elves go from manipulating the light out of spite for it failing them to worshiping it because Velen gave a speech and dropped a naaru corpse in the Sunwell.

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Come play a REAL mmo faggots. Classic is literally low IQ.

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no shit

I've gotten hotter girls, and I'm me.

>2
how hard is it nigger for TBC #nochanges faggot

>specifically says that this isn't for her
I'm fine with this.
She and everyone like her stays in retail and I don't have to worry so much about pugging the odd dps.

redpill me on eve

soul harvester, baby

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Same boat than you. Droped my hunter in the alliance to switch to Male Belf mage at the end of BC and lasted till end of CAT, where the trainwreck became unbereable.
Best time ever

Great game, But I'm taking a break right now ready for Classic WoW.

took me 1 hour to figure it out how to use the fucking data probes

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What? Take the dick out of your mouth and try saying that again. Maybe then I can understand you.

Implying people will play the game long enough and it wont fail in the first 3 months due to lack of population.
But y, it will propably get new content.
Not him, but people eventually grow tired of doing the same things over and over again (see afps genre). The game needs new content to keep players, hence the game needs changes.
I'm not talking about t4 sets in classic or end game content. But maybee some in between leveling dungeons like a new lvl 21 dungeon etc. some new questlines and overall balancing

Any insight into why the main story in BC was so bad? Different writing team?

also the tier 5/6 attunements are pretty much indefensible, literally just screws up guilds for no benefit

It's like playing microsoft excel. A "game" for literal autists

There was no way for Tyrande to know what was going on in Outland. I mean, pls. Stop

It's subtle but Kael was deff a burning legion member by BC. Vashj was also an agent of The Old Ones.

They are all imo
Druid is great while leveling and open world pvp, can’t talk about endgame
Warrior is good dps and good tank
Paladin is big buffs you can level as ret and heal or tank during dungeons then respec at 50 once you know what you wanna do

First, Zoomer or family man?
>Implying people will play the game long enough and it wont fail in the first 3 months due to lack of population.
I guarantee it will have a better population than retail. And I am a Dead on Arrival guy. Game has a lot of dumb shit (layering for one) but people will gobble it up.
>But maybe some in between leveling dungeons like a new lvl 21 dungeon etc
I'm not totally against this, but if you want new dungeons why not just play retail? And if they added end-game shit that would be pretty bad unless it had been out over a year.
>balancing
Yeah every time blizzard has tried to "balance" the game they have just royally fucked it up. I have zero faith in them on that front.
Games balanced around 50% winrate statistics are fucking boring and normalized. When everyone is the same, no-one is special.

They're going to replicate the entirety of the past 15 years. Then, in another 15 years, when the nostalgia comes full circle, they'll release Classic Remastered and start the process over again.

Welcome to Mr. Blizzard's Wild Ride.

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so you are full of shit.
Went from
>"he literally pledges allegiance to the Burning fucking Legion."
LITERALLY
Also no, it's only happening in your head. There's no subtle thing at all with Kael being friend with the Legion giant retard

I'm not that much about pvp when i talk about balancing, more things like a removal of the dotcap. People could play a lot more classes with a stronger variety in gameplay.
For that you could buff the bosses to make up for it. It would do nothing but giving the players more option in which role they want to play
>First, Zoomer or family man?
a jaded NEET boomer, but what does this have to do with my arguments?

The Legion turned out to be the good guys in the end lmao They just wanted to destroy the void/old gods

They don't deal with demons they deal with fucking illidan and his nagas. Same people who worked with Malfurion to save Tyrande.
>As I said lorelet
The fucking irony

I want to know where shitty opinions are coming from.

If they're removing sharding before phase 2 that means they're expecting a massive population decline, right?

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>TBC drug addict actually defending the garbage lore like Kael being a villain and Blood Elves going Horde
Jesus fuck, i was right all along : WoW became shit only because of the devs pleasing their fans.
You want to experience TBC again? Play BFA.

K, they come from old classic players who want to play a good game rather than revoking some dumb childhood feelings.

The population would have to drop by over 80% for them to remove layering based on what they have said (~2500 per layer)
If you think they will ever remove it you are deluded.

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>Vashj was also an agent of The Old Ones.
No. Stop pretending that you played Warcraft 3.

someone post the clip of the guy getting layered while in a group

>There was no way for Tyrande to know what was going on in Outland.
There was

Being able to heal dungeons but contribute to questing would be ideal, so probably scratch warrior. So I'm between nelf druid or dorf paladin, thanks for your input!

2 things can happen
a) 90% of the players quit before p2.
b) They won't remove layer

The majority of Classic players will be Zoomers and people that have never played the game, so your opinion is invalid. Most people that used to play are now with family and their opinion has been poisoned.
The 1% that are true NEETs are the only voice that matters.

is this reddit humor?

clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInterestingClintCeilingCat

By killing everyone. They're not good guys in the slightest.

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thanks

If they do TBC legacy servers they will keep it as close to the final patch experience as possible. That's the whole idea of Classic in the first place. I just hope they hurry up and get to WotLK, that's what I want back almost as much as Vanilla.

Not happening retailcuck. Stop trying to poison Classic just to protect your mount portfolio.

It's insanely easy with heirlooms and even the chauffeur 'mount' I took a Paladin to 20 in under 2 hours. I will admit that Paladin on retail is far better than in Vanilla though. Paladins got fucked in Vanilla.

Blizzard in their entire history never gave a single fuck about PvP.It was super rare that they ever touched any class only because of PvP,because they earned a storm of PvE tears.Classic is also far away from Rock/paper/scissor.

>The whole "homogenization" and "balancing" of classes started with arenas, and ever since then the game has suffered.
This is also a big lie,this never happened because of arena.It happened because of PvE players and not wanting bosses needing certain classes.Especially for 10 men,this was the case.
Also Arenas peak was in TBC/LichKing,everything after Lichking is irrelevant they removed 2v2 in s6 and Cata was plagued by Ladder cheating.
They never gave a fuck about PvP or Arena.If they did,they would have stomped Restro Druids S3,DKs s5/6 and Paladins through the all of Woltk instantly into the ground.
S5 Paladin/DK was 18% of all Gladiators(no combo was ever as strong) and you argue that they ever nerfed anything because of PvP.Paladins were the top tier healers through all of Woltk.
Arena was non ironically more balanced in s2 and s6-7,than Classic ever was.You argue about rock,papier,scissor when that existed the least in Classic.

>But when you can just grind out your gear by doing battlegrounds all day and then decimate a guy that has been working on actual end-game content for a month, that seems wrong to me. The coolest part about classic was seeing someone with rare items that you had never seen before, if everyone can get epics with little effort then no one is special.
The rank14 grind is more challenging than anything in classic.You have a handful of people that no life for gear that gets exchanged in AQ/Naxx.
The 0.000X on the server that do this have than Items that matches Raiding gear and is slightly better in PvP.
And if you talk about Tbc/Woltk the gear was always from the season before or 2 season before.These sets were absolutely dogshit for PvE.

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No there wasn't. If that was the case she would have known about the bad shit Illidan did, that Maiev was imprisoned, etc. and immedialty go to stop him like she did in TFT.

> that Layering
how much shitting on Classic are we going to see within a month from all gamers and neckbeards complaining about it AFTER they have given up on Classic?

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I think they expect population to stabilize
Waigies will go back to their jobs and only play on weekends, kids will have school and neets will be on 24/7

The whole idea of Classic WoW, was to get an experience as close to vanilla as possible. TBC is not vanilla. Everyone thinks vanilla was a masterpiece. Everyone agrees there was a lot of fuckups with TBC.

It is also pretty highly regarded that every expansion got worse and worse.

Do we know whats going to happen? Nope. But just re-releasing all the games in order would be a bit pointless wouldn't it?

>layering
>not already poisoned

I'd like changes that are good but changes that don't disturb the spirit of vanilla wow.

Though I think that Bliz will probably fuck it up so it's the most safe just to do no changes. Better safe than sorry.

Since you already plan to main a priest
Maybe go paladin and tank at 60 for your buddies you can tank all the way to BWL, can power level alts in dungeons or sell runs
If anything you can go holy but that’s boring

same as this, don't let fucking retards poll shit or things like the grand exchange get pushed through. Also no bonds/wow tokens because its an MMO not a fucking store to buy your gear on.

>Blizzard in their entire history never gave a single fuck about PvP. It was super rare that they ever touched any class only because of PvP,because they earned a storm of PvE tears.Classic is also far away from Rock/paper/scissor.
This is just straight up false.
>The rank14 grind is more challenging than anything in classic.
wut
>They never gave a fuck about PvP or Arena.If they did,they would have stomped Restro Druids S3,DKs s5/6 and Paladins through the all of Woltk instantly into the ground.
They go off fucking statistics not what every mindless grubber wants. 50% winrate was a huge cause of this, when everyone is running the same shit, it looks balanced on paper. When it looks balanced on paper they don't touch it. Another reason I don't trust blizzard to balance shit.

>This is also a big lie,this never happened because of arena.It happened because of PvE players and not wanting bosses needing certain classes.
Talents were removed solely because of PvP so how can you say the game was not balanced around it?

it'd be cheap, easy money which is all these corporations care about

I dunno, she looks like a night elf

This game is going to bomb if they don't put QOL changes like the findgroup channel which was imho really useful for me since i was selling ubrs key, and dungeon stone summoning. The only thing i hated about dungeon stone summoning, was some lazy fucks would just wait for summons, heck if you had a warlock in your group, they wouldnt even run to where they died, they'd wait for a summon. Maybe its ok if they leave out stone summoning.
But i think warriors should get some love, i mean we should be allowed an offspec for pvp fun.
Smh fuck playing warrior, i loved my 25g repair bill after wiping on onyxia because the fucking priest couldn't position himself properly.

Cheap, easy money is called retail.
They won't invest a cent into TBC because 30 autists want it. It would also make people angry cauz AGAIN it won't be possible to play vanilla.

Someone already made a lfg addon for classic

Honestly gmarshal weapons weren't even needed. If you hit knight lieutenant you had access to the gmarshal gear, then you could just pug a raid with a guild or in lfg chat grab perditions blade or obsidian edged blade and you're gtg.

Kill yourself
So? It's not even needed, that aside people have to use it for it to even work, so enjoy telling every person you meet to go download it.

Praise, finally.
I hated having to travel to selpucher just to find no1 is running SFK.

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That does sound fun, I like that. Thanks user, I think I'll do just that.

If you want TBC and WotLK after Classic you're fucking retarded.
>horde paladins and alliance shamans
>horny jerkbait races added to both factions
>resilience gear
>arenas
>flying trivialized gathering and made an easy escape for world pvp
>old world (80% of the game's content) made obsolete
>mindless boring daily quests
>sanctuary cities with portals
>badges to trade in for gear because RNG is too hard
>world epic drops no longer a thing
>recycled content with heroic dungeons in tbc
>even more recycled content with optional difficulty raids in wrath
>shittiest BGs with siege tanks and other fun shit added
>the fucking argent pony riding shit

i can tell you with certainty that they don't have a plan

>The majority of Classic players will be Zoomers and people that have never played the game
>Source: My ass
>The 1% that are true NEETs are the only voice that matters.
yes, you mean the 1% that wont be enough to sustain the servers.

How hard would it be to implement expansions with the stats/levels/skills locked to their expansion content?
ie: BC is released on Classic, but when not in Outlands your character is reverted back to 60 and can only use Vanilla gear. When going back to BC zones/content your character automatically goes back to their BC levels and is able to equip BC gear.

The only issues I can see would be the history of talent tree/skill revisions Blizzard has done through the years and if they’ll implement that with each patch/expansion native to only the content of that expansion.

Explain. Because PVP was full of retards with raid gear getting glad for free because they had glaives or high end raid trinkets. All the arp in Sunwell made warriors ridiculous in the arena, especially because it was flat armor reduction.

Badge gear is fine because retail has shown us that RNG is fucking gay

That's why people that think they will be released without changes are fucking stupid. Too much trash and failed experiments in the expansions for them not to change it.

Do you really want nu-Blizz adding content to WoW Classic?

>You think you do, but you don't (Version 2)

Yes. I dont want to do the same shit i did years ago again and again.
Some new levelingdungeons, questlines, maybee 1 or 2 leveling areas for both fractions, and maybee another raid like ubrs.
Theres nothing ti explore if you allready know everything.
You diehard "no changes"fags will learn that the hard way once you grow tired of leveling to 60 and quit the game again

More like where homogenization got the game, it's been dogshit for 10 years now.

You're an idiot. They have TONS of unused server space. The only way this flys is new separate sets of servers for each expansion. Those who want to stay in Vanilla do. Those who want to move on to TBC can roll new toons or copy their Classic level 60 to a TBC server to keep going with their Vanilla char but also preserve it's Classic state. It's pretty simple really. Do same for Wrath then you have the perfect 'Word of Warcraft Classic Legacy Collection'

>1% beating Classic naxx
It’s piss easy, are you retarded?

No they didn't. Shut the fuck up cuck.

Are they actually physical servers or just one big server with tons of virtual machines? At least for classic seems like just doin VMs would be really cheap.

Not him but yes. 6-8 months or so after the final phase drops. Community vote with 95% to pass. Debuff limit should be the first thing to go. Although I'm probably just going to quit playing when world bosses roll out and layering is still in effect.

Level cap doesn't change and no new landmasses added. Most new raid gear being sidegrades to t2/2.5 with a few exceptions for final bosses and difficult quest chains. Release unfinished zones as max level group-recommended areas, lots of 60-62 mobs and plenty of elite quests.

Do low-level quests and mobs give reputation in classic? I thought that was removed around BC or WotLK.

I want a kodo as undead, can I do all the tauren quests at level 60 for rep or do I need to go there right away and do them before they turn grey?

A lfg tool for classic would be useful user. You know how long it takes to get a group together, travel to the instance, figure out how to get inside, buff up, then spend two hours wiping because retail noobs can't understand needing hard cc and threat management? Fuck man I got a life now. I got a wife, two kids, a dog, two side chicks, and I'm also trying to get it in with my cute cousin. This on top of keeping my drug habit under the radar. Fucking mortgage, car payments, college debt, fucking screaming ass kids constantly sucking you dry with their needs for iPhones and smart watches and all that bullshit.... Fuck man I don't have time to go through all that BS to run a dungeon. Just give me a fucking lfg tool in classic and I'm good.

Yeah the talents,that solely evolved around PvP like Macestun for Rogues,Warriors or Blackout for Shadows.Or preperation not giving Blind twice,these changes 100% did not happen because these abilities were so broken in PvE.
Or Blizzard removing H.A.R.P spec(a spec that didnt exist in PvE) and nerfing preperation again.Most of the talents that were changed because of PvP,were also often only useful in PvP aswell.
It is not like the PvP Community had such a big influence on nerfs.
They nearly never touched things,that would affect Raiding in a very big way.

>>The rank14 grind is more challenging than anything in classic.
Please tell me anything that is bigger time waste,or takes more no life.Only to get some pieces of gear that 100% get outscaled later down the line.And don't argue Classic encounters take any kind of brain activity,except a few bosses in AQ or Naxx.

Why do you argue PvP-Players should have no advanage in PvP with their gear,but PvE-Gear can be viable in both or bis.
Not a single fucking set of PvP Gear was ever BiS in PvE,especially the Honour only Sets.
You wouldn't get a raiding spot in TBC/Woltk from a top raiding guild if you had it.
In Classic you can legit dominate both PvE and PvP with only Raiding.
Just accept that the homogenezation largely happened because of PvE players.Arena was done with Cata.
If you care about >MUH EPICS ,they could have made the PvP Sets blue for me,if you care so much about your pixel statuts.

You are 100% a shitter that was nowhere near Gladiator,or someone that is mad that People got some decent gear for sacrificing their life(R14).

It is such a gigantic lie,that anyone would take you to the current Raid in PvP-Sets alone.

>They go off fucking statistics not what every mindless grubber wants.
>meanwhile Paladins in Woltk,where the highest % gladiators every season
>Hunters were the lowest class % TBC/Woltk
>talking about forced 50%
>mfw
Activated my almonds.

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There gonna remake it with a new engine but its gonna be photo realistic so half people that would normally play will quit while the people who are just bored with life will play it.

Its the stat. By large most people didn't experience Naxx because the gear requirements in an age lacking in information.

Because there was no 'new content' until BC and THATS HOW ITS GOING TO FUCKING STAY SO SHUT YOUR FICKING WHORE MOUTH BEFORE I COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND ASSFUCK YOUR GOD FORSAKEN ROTTEN SOUL YOU FUCKING BASEDBOY LEFTIST PIECE IF SHIT KEK!!!

>tfw you hear Arthas VA during Naxx
I hate Blizz so much for what they did after vanilla

But user if you dont sit in trade for 3 hours to get a group for BRD because your guild doesnt want to run it you're literally killing the community

I believe you can do them at any level for full rewards.

They should fire all of the writing team and get someone not retarded to take it in a different direction. BC should have introduced a third faction of blood elves, Draenai, Naga and filler race

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING LEFTIST FRENCHIE KEK! THERE IS NO FUCKING CLASSIC + AND WON'T EVER FUCKING BE! YOU TAKE THAT SHIT AND SLIT YOUR FUCKING WRISTS YOU ABSOLUTE SUBHUMAN GARBAGE!

Why doesn't WoW Classic just go for a Runescape Classic system? Start classic and update with 75% majority polls for content. Deviate from classic with unique updates that weren't part of vanilla, branch off from how retail became over time.

Realize how wise your friend is and stop being a victim of poopsocking incels trying to live out their power fantasy. You are basically helping them cum. This PvP is for faggots.

Why do all the specs I like suck ass? I even took off work for this but now I don't even know if i'll bother.

Assuming classic is sucessful, It would pretty obviously be TBC
unlike with vanilla, every for TBC is still there in the game. Now that the client has been updated, its likely less work to release the entirety of TBC than it would be to make even a single new raid.
Additionally, if you look at historical sub growth its pretty clear that TBC was well received even with the issues it had. WoW subs basically peaked at the end of TBC and stayed flat throughout wrath before falling in Cata.

If classic is crazy sucessful classic+ in addition to servers offering progression though TBC (and perhaps Wrath) might be a possibility but blizzard has mentioned not wanting to develop content for 2 versions of the game at once

i wish we got wotlk instead of classic, or some kind of frankenstein modified wotlk

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Remember the trailer? That dwarf hunter with his bear made me buy the game back when I was a wee lad full of hope and promise.

Now that that went nowhere I think I'll play Horde

FUCK YOU! FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT CLASSIC + SHILLING KEK! YOU GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD RIGHT THE FUCK NOW OR SO HELP ME FUCK I WILL DESTROY YOUR FUCKING ENTIRE BLOODLINE!

the most annoying shit they would do is nerf single target then compensate with aoe since that doesn't effect pvp, enjoy your rip nerf so pvp shitters stop crying, but don't worry here's +20% to swipe :^), can't fucking buff disc because of arena so here's your +20% to prayer of healing :^)

The concept of "seflless healer/savior guy" is nailed quite well, but the real issue is Blizz in fluff built up pala's to be epic shitstomping crusaders who can smite 6 Horde-niggers and a legion of undead just by pissing in their direction. so the healing/helper side is good but presenting them as solo king chad heroes is kinda weird in an mmo

But then you actually play and it's just some limp-dick auto attack shit with a few passive buffs for like 50 levels so the whole thing feels shit

>Being this cucked
We don't want you on the Alliance. Stay in your containment faction.

Wrath was the peak of World of Warcraft. Take your pandashilling elsewhere cuck. Only whites are allowed to post here. (eurocucks don't count as white. Only Americans)

If OSRS can get Theatre of Blood, classic can get exclusive new content too

why do you have this in your computer user?

lol

What'll happen is Blizzard will likely let people transfer to a TBC server after the final phase of the Classic server. Or just copy over.

Effect will be that people will end up getting servers specific to the different expansions and gradually go on to the next if they want, so Blizzard can experience each one the way they were actually designed rather than with the most recent expansion grafted onto them.

>How long will she need to do vaginal dilation?
>Forever. Yes, that’s correct.

xD

Kinda sorta makes sense given how different retail is, people got babied with the quest tracking telling you every little thing to do for any quest ever.

And holy fucking shit guess what people asked for when OSRS was on its way?

>2-3 years
More like 2-3 months

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TBC sucked in comparison to the god of all expansions Wrath of the Lick King. You can't argue with the facts. Wrath had the most players and the best content (ICC and it's 5 man's and yes Ulduar which was inferior to ICC but still good) The LFG tool (fuck you I liked it. Building dungeon groups is a tedious chore and teleport to dungeons is hella convineant) Trial of the Crusader and Trial of the Champion and the whole Argent Tournament shit was fucking great. Finally getting to Dalaran, finally setting foot in Northrend. Leveling was still challenging and the questing was peak storytelling. The Wrathgate was epic as fuck. Onyxia and Naxx remaster was awesome. Wrath Naxx was the gateway to serious progression raiding for a lot of characters. It was accessible but still challenging enough to train new raiders going into the second tier of content. Wrath also had a way for those who couldn't raid to get some decent gear in the heroic 5 man dungeons (especially on the ToC and ICC five man's) and my personal favorite dungeon content ever The Frozen Halls dungeons aka the ICC 5 man's. Those were absolutely epic and none of you can deny it.

Iirc the Classic team is comprised mostly of what remains of the blizzard old guard. So yes, i would put that in their hands

>Comparing jagex to the corporate soul crusher that is Blizzard
>The same company that demands people have phones for their conventions and video games

Keep seething retailcuck. We can all hear it from here.

It's easy to tell which posts are yours because you can't space after period properly.

In your own post you prove my point, they tried and tried to balance PvP without it affecting PvE and in the end realized it was impossible and removed talents altogether.

>Please tell me anything that is bigger time waste,or takes more no life.
High Warlord

>meanwhile Paladins in Woltk,where the highest % gladiators every season
I know this is hard to understand for you, but number of gladiators has nothing todo with the winrate of the class. If a pali fights another pali, someone has to lose.

It's the last standing MMO and has been around since 2003. Because its a sandbox it is imperative that you join one of the many communities. Everyone in the game is pretty friendly and overall the game is way less toxic compared to WoW (especially private server/classic players who are a bunch of screaming autists).

It's a great game that allows you to play how you want. Want to be a jew and just play the markets all day? You can do that. Want to just pvp? You can also do that (though you will need to get isk, ingame money, somehow for your pvp ships)

Blizzard is legitimately preparing for a huge player drop after the first month

How long will Classic last me as someone who didnt play Vanilla but played most expansions after on and off?

>He actually payed $15 to reserve a fucking name
the absolute STATE of retailcucks

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>Thinking forty is old

they'll use classic phases as distraction for retailchads before our content patches and expansions
you're mearly playing a minigame classiccucks, thanks for paying for my mounts and pets

>source: dude trust me

You had better be pretending to be retarded.

$15 for half a month of time and having your names which you'll use in the game for years is pretty important.

1 week at most
gameplay is garbage if you're used to current wow

They can only do legacy expansion servers. They won't ever do any such thing as Classic +.

But most people excited to come back are retail players

no you don't no cross classes actually means your choice of alliance or horde matters homogenization is not a good thing baloney is not good user

Clueless brainlet spamming thread like these never cease to amaze me.

Its going to go the TLP servers route that has already been doing wonders in many older mmo.

>He shitposts for free about people being excited to play video games

Shard 8 ... Layer 47 ... Home ... for this session at least ...

I want them to put Karazhan in classic. I love that raid.

based anime tranny present in every thread

>your choice of alliance or horde matters
>you can be a shitty hybrid only good for healing
>OR you can be a shitty hybrid only good for healing

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My girlfriend is a literal 9/10, sounds like you're projecting kiddo.

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Nah.

Building dungeon groups meant you had to get to know people. With dungeon finder you suddenly had that all stop and it started the decline of quality of the community on servers to the point where you can't really say you have communities on the servers.

The Naxx change was nice, but also kinda shitty since it was taking the old raid and just retrofitting it so people could play it again, rather than make a new raid.

>having your names
>is pretty important
levels of autism previously thought to only be theoretically possible

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Wrath was when the game when to shit, retard. TBC too. What people don't understand is that both TBC and Wrath lost old players and just made up for it with new subs FOMOing in. There's a reason we call you niggers Wrathbabies.

>reserving cringe memer/weeb/edgelord shit like Pepethefrog/Hatsunemiku/Reaper is important

vanilla feels nice desu, retail you just right click and numbers start popping up and it's not satisfying

>He doesn’t know

Bro if you haven't gotten a name chosen by launch day and later decide you wanna play Classic, enjoy being Gbhjmenfe or something because all semblance of actual names will be taken.

>t. faggot with wonky alt-character name that will never get invited to shit because it takes 28 keystrokes to type out your name

Yeah im sure people totally invite to raids based on name length lmao

Because progression in 2007scape left a lot of room for new content and Classic WoW ends with Naxx. OSRS has been trying to deal with power creep a lot too but ended up adding stuff like the Toxic Blowpipe. Runescape is also a very different game from WoW.

youre a fucking retard

No it wouldn't. Fuck off I want a version of my character on each kind of server: Classic, BC, and WotLK.

>come back
most of them never played vanilla
and those who played vanilla are blinded by the nostalgia
they won't last long

high pop servers were always like this, pick a different name and don't be an autist

why can't she keep her eyes open????

I don't think it's gonna be THAT bad but I want the same name I had back then in order for old companions being able to recognize me when we come across each other.

It's getting removed after launch. Grow up. You will still have plenty of jewed cucks to victimize after you no life poopsock to 60 due to having no social or sex life.

What are my odds of finding an actual girlfriend (girl) on a PvP server, user? Give it to me straight.

kek
I unironically only use 3 letter names because it adds like 90% more chance to be invited to something.

0%

The problem with the poll system is that zoomers vote in retarded nu-age zoomzoom instant-gratification you-win-button shit and at the same time boomers will vote out cool and good shit for fucking retarded reasons or simply because they're stuck in their archaic ways

Example on the boomer side of that proverbial coin, the Warding skill, which would have fixed the fact that there is no skill for crafting mage armor (Melee has smithing, Ranged has fletching, respectively), failed to get into OSRS SOLELY because lazy fucking boomer retards didn't want to have to level another skill to 99 to retain their maxed status and cape. That's it, not because they thought it would be imbalanced or out of line with OSRS values or anything, just purely because they're lazy faggots

cant you see shes a junkie?

Don't you get it retailcuck? Changes are bad period. The only one that need to happen across all the legacy server series is personal loot. That needs to happen period.

There wont be any. Even obscure custom make fantasy names for characters like Galrendir or whatever will be taken. After a week you'll pretty much be forced into using a name that looks like a Chinese bot is running it.

flouride

Great idea bro!

Shut up Légôläås.

>old companions being able to recognize me when we come across each other.
now this is some real wishful thinking

wheres your handler, let me talk to them

>-You want to actually progress fast and be in a guild that will actually achieve a realm first.
Why the fuck would you want to achieve that in classic WoW. Retarded.

You just named a lot of things I value about Wrath. Fuck world PvP and fuck you for valuing it. It's bullshit and doesn't belong in the game. That's what battlegrounds are for. Flying mounts were needed just to get asshole incels like you off my back while I'm trying to do my dailies or farm. The badges are bad luck protection, gear shouldn't be gated to the no life incel crowd. You are a fucking moron.

>that faggot yesterday who kept spamming BC was the peak of WoW and subsequently, killed WoW
>all because he said so
wew lads you kids are crazy

They actually have considered OSRS voting, but only later in the game's life.

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My /wowcg/ guild is unironically is not inviting people with silly, longer or hard to pronounce names.

They could have just had alternative ways of acquiring gear that was good for pvp

>Psychopath game where everyone will try to squeeze every ounce of information flout of you as they can and save it in a file in the odd chance they see you in space and plan to be your enemy

No thanks. People who play Eve genuinely have a fucking problem. I once met someone who had heard I played Eve in passing conversation before, so they proceed to try to look up my dox purely to find out any information about my character and where I played in the game for a chance they might see me online to kill me. Coincidentally, turned out they also fuck animals while using their job as an animal caregiver to get away with it.

S5:
Paladin: 712 - 18.82%
Warrior: 210 - 5.55%

S6:
Paladin: 703 - 15.40%
Hunter: 232 - 5.08%

S7:
Paladin: 367 - 14.26%
Death Knight: 146 - 5.67%

S8 (only Season,where Paladins were not the Nr.1)
Priest: 291 - 15.08%
Paladin: 288 - 14.92%
Rogue: 94 - 4.87%

Those were the Gladiator Distrubution of Woltk for the best and worst Class.Notice anything my friend? I thought they forced ''balance'' and nerfed classes so hard for PvP.
How are paladins 3 times more prominent,than the least picked class,if they cared so much about PvP-Balance.
>I know this is hard to understand for you, but number of gladiators has nothing todo with the winrate of the class. If a pali fights another pali, someone has to lose.
Ofc not,but it shows that one class is clearly easier to achieve higher raitings with.
How can you argue Blizzard truly ever cared for PvP-Balance and "balanced around it".
If paladins are 3 times more prominent than lowest Classes in the higher Elos,for 3 seasons.

>High Warlord
This is exactly what I said,why do PvP-players literally have to waste their lifes for gear that get outscaled.
Not only that,they are also the 0.000X% of the population,to get gear that matched PvE Gear in Classic.
Are you this mad people got PvP gear in TBC/Woltk,that was garbage in PvE? Don't act like 2 Season old gear was an invite to Sunwell or BT.

That's bullshit. You couldn't even use it until 80 anyway.

Honestly, nobody will even want to friend you with a name like this
so annoying to bother typing this or copying it

Image if the released brand new content but soley in vanilla wow and with a vanilla "style"

Well I remember a lot of people from.my old guild.

They are going to be surprised. People will get invested. There is a reason Vanilla was so popular and addictive. It's a good game. A great game. Near perfection (wow perfection is Wrath. Deal with it, you know it's true).

I'm 28 and I can relate

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>There will never be an an unironic Legolas or derivative made ever again
>Zoomers too young to care about LotR
>Boomers only care about the Simirilion

>what's gonna happen in 2-3 years when everyone is maxed out on everything?

You mean 3 months right?

Yeah. See where the game went.
They could’ve just tweaker pala numbers up to be viable, but they pay hybrid class tax on top of having the best buffs in the game

Fuck.

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Not him but I also got to play in the stress test for a weekend and I get to mess about on retail. Sort of fun to make a new toon and see how fast you can get to 15 with the heirlooms and chauffeur mount. I always was an altoholic. It reminds me of why I want Classic back. It's too easy now with all that shit. If love to get back to Wrath though. That was the good shit.

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How deluded you can be in believing people will play classic wow in the 20s?

he pledges his alliance to illidan in return for illidan offering him a new source of magical power to tap from. And in the outro of the BL campaign illidan just says he will do his best to kill the lich king, not be a power of the burning legion

That's bullshit. You couldn't even use the thing until 80 anyway. Also you couldn't raid with it. It was just for bgs and five man content. That was a good balance.

totems and blessings are pretty big.

No one cares about your opinion autist. Keep shitposting on this cesspool. I'm just a tourist here laughing at the absolute state of you sad fucking incels. I almost want to make a PvP server room just to buttfuck all of you and steal your playtime. The only things stopping me are that I have a life so don't have time and also you all aren't worth my attention. I'll keep fucking my wife and my two side chicks thank you.

didn't they enable LFD for leveling dungeons near the end of wrath, creating the whole dungeon spam leveling method

play eve online faggots

Do you really want to raid MC/BWL again and again for the thousandth time? DO you really want to do ZG every 4 days? ZG is literally the definition of suffering because of the amount of time it takes to clear all the bullshit trash.

You'll also be having to deal with all of the layering bullshit.

R14 ally staff is honestly most memorable

Again, you are looking at "Gladiator Distrubution"
Just because a class is used more, does not mean the winrate is less, or more, and since blizz gives us no statistics we don't know what stats they are using to balance shit.
>How are paladins 3 times more prominent,than the least picked class,if they cared so much about PvP-Balance.
Maybe because some streamer popularized that class. Maybe people saw a lot of high arena ranked palis and copied them, point is who cares. The number people using a class has NOTHING to do with the winrate of the class, it just literally means more people play it.
>Are you this mad people got PvP gear in TBC/Woltk,that was garbage in PvE?
No, why would I? Sitting in queue for day should not give you gear equivalent to end-game raids.

>Zoomers spamming twitch emotes in chat 24/7
>Streamers getting everything blown up their ass acting like they own the server
>PvP is a fucking mess
>World PvP is literally just some asshole killing you while you do a quest
>"Huge" world pvp is just 100 retards spamming AOE like it's some sort of Wotlk dungeon
>Pve consinst of exciting things like: Kill these guys 5000 times for rep, bring me 20 bear asses for rep
>Dungeons have interesting and difficult mechanics like: "Don't stand in front of boss, don't stand behind boss"
>Raids have hard mechanics like group up when Boss does X or split up when boss does Y
>Your reward for raiding is gonna be a single piece of equipment every 100 bosses cause you have to share it with 39 other apes and in the end the streamer gets the item anyway

Blizzard couldn't pay me enough money in their life to get me to play this crap.

Most people won't even get past BWL

Nope that wasn't until Cata. Or at least the cata pre-patch.

Remember to go exploring, user.

>Play Eve!
>Complains about the time it takes to do things

If that isn't irony, I don't know what is.

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You are turbo mad apparently

It's rather poetic that the strongest bros in history were Paladin and Death Knight

If you do they wont be mentally sound

What realm is Yea Forums going to play?

>im down with them bringing bad blood elves
kill yourself

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>tfw in the time that I waited for Classic I finally got laid

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Priests rose above their class to define something new in the world - the Paladin. Then they were risen six feet more - the Deathknight.

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>Honey, why can't I see my group? What is this layering? Is my alzhiemers acting up again?

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>wanting the race that killed the Horde

Please, die.

Considering I met a girl on Discord and she ghosted me, I've a feeling I'm not either.

Arena would be perfect if it worked like an actual arena and was only available on the weekends or some shit instead od being on-demand

Would be cool to be in the audience and be able to bet gold on fights too

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I gave 8 years of my life for this game I am not gonna give it another minute especially not for classic where you have to play 5 hours a day or more to even get the chance to see the endgame.

nice

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Congrats, user. I hope things work out if you continue past that, and that feelings don't linger if it was a one-night situation.

A Wrath server sounds fucking retarded. BC/Vanilla has a more non-linear end game to it, but Wrath is literally railroaded. Once you get to 3.3, what the fuck is there to do? Just run ICC until you die of boredom? It's like 2010 all over again.

and if they removed pilars

There's a difference between doing raids/ranking in classic for the thousandth time (trust me it fucking sucks. Put hundreds of days into emerald dream/nostalrius/anathema(elysium) private servers) and doing something completely new.

>Literally living for the endgame

How about you speedrun to your endgame right now, fucking zoomer.

I want the race that saved the alliance

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Most games don't even last 2-3 years. Just enjoy classic.

If there is enough demand, they will bend, it's as simple as that

That feeling when a pocket pussy feels the exact same as a normal pussy minus the stupid social aspect of it.
Though... the social aspect is really hot sometimes, but its not worth all the fucking money I poor into it. Ill keep my 15$ pocket pussy thanks. Girls are money pits.

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I don't actually care if classic gets new content or moves to BC but I find the idea of new classes getting made with old design philosophies and new assets being made with 2004 3D modeling fascinating.
>Dragon Isles with all the big shells and stuff in comfy polygons. Might get WC3 Naga bread and butter like snapdragons and coatls actually in the game.
>Gilneas and Mt. Hyjal designed like a vanilla zone.
>Death Knights that start at level 1, have class quests for runeblades, can summon mobs like nobody's business and have all the removed stuff like presences and every spec being a tanking spec.
>Demon Hunters that manage to be highly mobile under old world constraints. Absorbing demon souls actually has an effect on your character. Class quests to fight powerful demons.
I fucking love possibilities.

>tfw can't jerk off normally anymore because I bought a pocket pussy

Abstract kind of feel, can't go back.

>Grinding asteroids
>Grinding traderuns
>Waiting for at least 2 billion skillpoints just to fly a halfway-decent ship for low sec gang PvP if you don't want to be someone's bitch toy in a Goon gang in nullsec and be told how to play, which will take literal months to years
>Have to compete against people who've literally played for so long you only stand to be set back versus set them back
>Risk losing all of your shit to some fucking idiot who owns the hanger or store all your precious toys in high-sec

Don't go kidding yourself. Why are you in this thread if you don't play the game? Fuck off.

No faggot, Blizzard themselves have had multiple panels and presentations on the process and progress of recreating Classic, and most importantly, who's involved and the content the individuals have worked on in the far past

Classic will be a wasteland after 6 weeks and blizzard will chalk it up as a failed experiment

>Release TBC
>SSC dungeons are merged into one, making it a level 61-70 super dungeon like BRD
>Same to Auchindoun dungeons
>No flying, no alliance shammies, no horde pallies
>Karazhan and Zul Aman are 20m
>BT, TK, SSC and Sunwell are 40m

>Release Wrath
>Dungeon finder is not introduced
>Naxx is not recycled, replaced with Utgarde Pinnacle Raid
>Azjol Nerub zone completed
>Cash store is not introduced, no sparkly pony

>Release Cata
>Zones are not revamped
>LFR is not introduced
>Abyssal Maw raid
>DKs talents are not fucked
>Worgen and goblins are not introduced as playable

>Release Pandaria
>Talent system is not deleted, instead, expanded upon
>Warforging/Thunderforging is not introduced
>Pandas are not introduced at all

>Release WoD
>No skill pruning

>Release Legion
>No legendaries
>No artefacts

>Release BfA
>No heart of azeroth
>No expeditions
>No azerite gear

Anything else?
This is just off the top of my head for attempt 2 at WoW.

>releasing quest greens that are better than raiding epics
one of the worst parts of every expansion is replacing the gear you grinded so hard for with some shitty green you got for killing 10 mobs

>Utgarde Pinnacle Raid
Vrykrul/Ice Troll/Kirin Tor raids were not planned for WotLK. Maybe in early phases, but nothing came out of that.

dude, you're on Yea Forums, in a video game general, about a game that you don't even like and talking shit. talk about autism

There is literally nothing wrong with Worgen, Goblin and Pandas. But also nuke Garrisons holy shit. I'm not coming back to retail until every last trace of that system is gone.

It has. We're dating and things are going pretty well so far. She's even fine with me playing Classic, though I probably won't be leveling as fast as I used to anyways. It helps I've known her for a pretty long time, and we finally just decided to try dating. Turns out our chemistry is actually pretty good. Whether it continues is anyone's guess, but I'm hoping things go well. I hope other Anons can also be happy.

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Timeblocks, remove fucking time-blocks and daily quests.

>Some user, somewhere, is happy

Hell yeah. Good times ahead.

Right that shit is gay as fuck

>Like make paladin tanking better like it was in TBC, or make druid and warlock not so terrible compared to warriors in pvp?
TBC made the spec more important than the class with too many strong talents at the end of the trees, fuck that shit.

>No, why would I? Sitting in queue for day should not give you gear equivalent to end-game raids.
But it wasn't viable in PvE,it only was viable in PvP.You wouldn't get a raiding spot with any decent gear if you were full PvP gear.
Some PvE gear was even BIS for PvP.Are you this delusional?
Do you think people that played at above 2200 shouldn't get anythign for it? Which was like the top 2-1% in TBC.

>Maybe because some streamer popularized that class.
Nobody watched streamers back then you Zoomer.You legit had a handful of high rated players streaming on fucking X-Perl,streaming was not at all popular.These streams at maximum had a few hundred viewers.I legit can only remember Reckful starting streaming in s7 on Xfire.
Everyone went to Arenajunkies or Warcraftmovies for inside.

> The number people using a class has NOTHING to do with the winrate of the class, it just literally means more people play it.
Ah yes ofc.Paladins are 15% of Gladiators for 4 Season,the class was just so fun to play and not totally fotm.The Class surely had no matchups that are in their favour and a clearly higher % winrate.
Nothing to see here guys.

Look at the top 50 ladder of the Woltk-Pservers scene of 50 fucking teams 48 are Human Paladin/Warrior for 2v2.
Do you think the whole Ladder is solely this combo,because they love the paladin gameplay so much.
Or could it be that Paladin and Warriors with PvE-Gear might be a little broken in s8.

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You're talking out of your ass because you've never played the game, or at very best played the babby tutorial in high sec and quit because you're too autistic to enjoy anything that doesn't give you instant gratification.

I've played both and I'm over vanilla WoW because it's literally:
>spending hours and hours grinding to 60 as fast as possible so you aren't left behind
>do dungeons to get gear pre bis for pve/pvp
>do pvp ranking which is literally grinding BGs for 22 hours per day (been there done that) and having to deal with the autistic ranking drama
>AND(gotta do pve for gear for pvp)
>do raiding and either be with autistic tryhard nerds who expect you to grind consumables/do world buff bullshit or a bunch of shitters who spend 4 hours wiping on MC trash

thats classic wow and you people arent doing yourselves a favor playing this garbage

I'd rather have reputation than badges, because badges forces you to do dungeons that you're done with or that you don't want to do.

>>DKs talents are not fucked
also make them start at level 1

but its a hero class

I've played both. Stay mad and fuck off.

ok enjoy wasting a year or two of your life AGAIN
Have sex loser. Before you're bald and too old to get any.

They will bend to what? You are not the target demographic anymore.

>There is literally nothing wrong with Worgen, Goblin and Pandas
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is trolling.

Lol

this was rather pleasant to watch, i enjoyed this

>Getting this angry
>Projecting this hard
>Just because someone won't play your shitty space sims game

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How bad is resto/druid in general in comparison to shaman?

>tfw my best friend from school says he's going to play classic
>tfw a girl from my class also says she's making a character
God winter is going to be comfy

>draeni
>saved Alliance
They literally killed Alliance

Your mother screams when I fuck her.

Significantly worse since shaman is probably the best healer

they were the only thing redeemable about RoC

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That's bad. 5 mans were how you initially met people you would eventually do raids with.

Now 5 mans are practically a chore where you barely interact with those in your party.

Did I upset you? Which of the furry races do you yiff to? Freak.

>Release Pandaria
>Pandas are not introduced at all
???

They are by far the worst healer,you legit can run raid without them.

Your only usefull because of mark of the wild and combat rezz.
If you are the only druid in your raid or one of the few,you get mad gear though.

Just replace them with oriental humans. Keep the expansion the same but remove the fucking kung-fu pandas. People might enjoy playing monk if the lore isn't tied to some shitty Jack Black movie.
It's not hard.

>t. buttblasted furfag

more like your dog screams when you fuck it, faggot

>they were the only thing redeemable about RoC
>literally turned entire faction into ERPers

I wanted to find out if you had an actual reason. I can safely dismiss you now.

>5 mans were how you initially met people you would eventually do raids with.
Bullshit.
You raid with your guild and run 5 ppl with some random fags you'll never see again.

i literally am, but that doesnt mean zoomers wont pretend to be my demographic

na im trying to stop you faggots from wasting your life again when you should grow the fuck up

>Nobody watched streamers back then you Zoomer.
The point of my post went over your head, you could insert any justification you wanted right there and it would be pointless because the number of people playing a class has no effect on its winrate, but if you want to doge the actual point of the post without giving an answer or other perspective just to call me a zoomer go for it
>Ah yes ofc.Paladins are 15% of Gladiators for 4 Season,the class was just so fun to play and not totally fotm.The Class surely had no matchups that are in their favour and a clearly higher % winrate. Nothing to see here guys.
You have no idea what the win-rate of the class is, that's the point, you are getting winrate and class distribution mixed up.

>Look at the top 50 ladder of the Woltk-Pservers scene of 50 fucking teams 48 are Human Paladin/Warrior for 2v2.
Do you think the whole Ladder is solely this combo,because they love the paladin gameplay so much.

Without actual statistics on team winrates we can't really make a guess. And top 50 really means jack shit when you have millions of players. You don't know how a curve works.

Yeah you can yiff in peace now. Just stay away from me while you do it.

You're free to fantasize about that.

*thousands before you blow a gasket.

they have the best spamable single target heal but are pretty much worthless in other aspects

Lol

>Maybe because some streamer popularized that class
showing your age child
>Sitting in queue for day should not give you gear equivalent to end-game raids
why should killing dragons reward gear thats good at killing other players but killing players cant
PVP gear was fucking garbage for PVE anyway(you could squeeze some on a tank) because half the fucking items statpool went to stam and resilience
I fucking loved resil gear because it let raiding fags learn their own backpedaling inadequacy
Its only a shame that stacking full pve gear became somewhat doable at the end of wotlk since the amount of stats from ICC25HC was crazy with shit like 100% armor pen

>Grow the fuck up
>Play Eve

Do you even know how autistic you sound right now boy?

Didn't play Classic, does Blessing of Kings and Mark of the Wild stack?

I'm 31 years old.