The PlayStation 1 took the following series that were iconic on the Famicom and Super Famicom away from Nintendo

they had the best first party games during the ps2, it did taper off again with the 3 and 4 but it was there. ratchet, jak, sly, god of war 1-3 were all great

>Nintendo had Castlevania
The N64 lineup would be better if it didn't

>What I'm curious about is just how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive the PlayStation 1.
nintendo was a name brand, playstation was the knock off brand
you can sell more of a knock off brand at walmart when it's cheap, but people still know what the premium brand's value commands

Do you think it hurts to be this based?

Attached: basedvillager.png (370x370, 16K)

>OoT and Mario 64 were better than anything on the PSX
Those are two games for a period of 4 to 6 years. Even with your whole list, you would go months with only one that last 20 hours at best.

>how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive
Same way they survive today. They create better games than everybody else. Sony is stuck making walking simulator or censoring games, Nintendo actually still makes jrpgs so Sony has regressed to what Nintendo used to be like in the 90s

Attached: 1559371904047.png (612x625, 97K)

The PS3 only has two games that really have my interest- Demon's Souls and Katamari Forever. I can't judge the PS4 vs Switch just yet, but the 3 was the first time I preferred Nintendo's system

Nintendo 64 sold well in western region but didn't sell in Japan due to N64 doesn't have a lot RPG and 2D games

that was the era of multiplats for me, i didnt really care too much for the exclusives on either the wii, 360, or ps3.

>What the fuck is going on at PlayStation
They have 3:1 against the Switch and the Xbox and have no reason to continue maintaining the PS4 brand since they make an incomprehensible amount of money on the 30% cut
This is why every time the Xbox or Playstation is ahead, they stop caring about PR. They do not need to answer investors asking "What are you doing to catch up to the sales of the other system? Why shouldn't I invest in them?" They get to just sit back and let the money flow.

>They create better games than everybody else.
A H A H A H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A HA H A H

64fags are known to replay the same exact game for years and pretend they are more than what they are. When they are not chimping out at the PS1 beating their shit console to a pulp they are chimping our at the newest Nintendo games for not being having the "amazing" controls some primitive ass 64 games had.

Seventh generation was the worst one so far imo
I say this as someone who mostly plays fourth and fifth gen. Seventh was basically everything that sucks about big budget games today but without exciting mid and low budget games, and no companies really even trying to win appeal among their core audience
It was just a bad time all around

Attached: ps3xbox360-1l.jpg (868x502, 39K)

>ratchet, jak, sly, gow 1-3
Imagine being this fucking late to the 3d action adventure party.

As someone who owns an xbone and owned a ps3 last gen all of the good playstation exclusives were either stolen or copied but better a long time ago by MS. It's a weird thing to brag about though.

>along with the Nintendo 64 being a simply terrible piece of hardware
Everything else you said is more or less true but the N64 was superior to the Ps1 in both rendering and processing speed. It's a 64bit vs a 32bit console, there's no comparison there. Anyway Nintendo survived via strict financial control of their platform and everything on it, along with the small N64 library being packed with first party slam dunks that guaranteed sales. Nintendo has also hardly ever sold anything at a loss since their inception.

I disagree. Gamecube’s first party is better than ogxbox and ps2. Ps2 has the best third party support ever tho. This thread isnt about that gen tho

>What I'm curious about is just how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive the PlayStation 1.

Considering the Switch, it arguably *didn't* survive. The Wii caught fire with normies for a bit but other than that the N64/PS1 generation was the beginning of the end for Nintendo's dedicated home consoles.

That's cool but not a single word you said refuted anything I said

Half of those games are on the Saturn too, they ditched Nintendo but not for Sony alone

Yes, clearly the most downloaded .isos in all history are such titles as Nathan Drake: The Lost Fortune

gamecube has melee and sunshine, a worse controller than the ps2. it does run most multiplats better so ill give it that

Yeah, Nintendo was infamous for being a meddler and being costly to dev to until Iwata arrived

>worse controller than the ps2
???

fuck i wish generations didnt change and it was perpetually the 90s

>clearly the most downloaded .isos in all history
Because Nintendo's trash consoles are the easiest to emulate retard. The Wii is two gamecubes duct taped together, the Switch is two Wii's duct taped together.

Do you not know how to use words? "???" isn't a sentence retard. The gamecube controller was garbage.

All of this could have been prevented all Nintendo had to do was run the n64 off of CDs and not fucked the controller up it wasn't even that hard Nintendo is just dumb

remember you can thank nintendo pulling a backstab on the SNES CD add-on for Sony spanking them 4 generations straight.

needed real 3rd party support. the library is abysmal outside of mario, zelda, and a handful of rareware games

The Saturn still would have tanked Sega and the 2008 financial crisis still would have gotten every mid budget studio bought by EA and Activision or turned to the gambling industry like Konami and Sega
Be thankful that games are beginning to become enjoyable again because it was incredibly bleak for many years after 2008

Attached: m99sopb20fh01.jpg (632x5129, 661K)

I will never forgive Sega of Japan for denying us of the Sega PlayStation and instead vomiting out the Saturn
Sony went to them before making it themselves. Sega of America said yes.

Attached: Sega.png (1500x1500, 3.12M)

*3 of the 4 generations but generally agreed

Attached: wii-remotes.jpg (619x550, 127K)

>What I'm curious about is just how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive the PlayStation 1.
A lot of people bought the N64 after the SNES, as opposed to the PS1 after the SNES. Yes, a number of people bought the PS1, but there were enough people going SNES-N64 to keep the system alive. And once you had a N64, it was far more practical to just buy some good N64 games than to buy a whole new system and games for that one. Needless to say, this caused more drop-off from Nintendo's consoles with the GameCube (even though the GC had a large number of good PS2 games) until the Wii hit and found a whole new audience.

Plus, remember, that Nintendo had the Game Boy. Game Boy saved their asses, especially since there was no real competition for it. Game Gear sucked, the Playstation memory card "systems" didn't even make it out of JP, and even GBA was successful enough to keep them afloat until the Wii/DS boom.

You're a fucking zoomer retard and need to go research the topic, I'm not being paid to educate special needs children, fuck off.

You guys realize that Sony announced the partnership before Nintendo was ready so that Sony could force them to accept terms more beneficial to Sony than Nintendo right? Nintendo was afraid of ending up a Sony subsidiary with the amount of control they were looking to have over the project. If Nintendo hadn't backed out they wouldn't be around as we know them today, for better or worse.

They're revising history, obviously they don't care about facts.

The lack of 3rd party support was directly caused by the lack of CDs they where cheaper and held much more data than cartidges not to mention being easier to manufacture

>Bottom right
Is that a Net Yaroze?

Attached: NetYaroze.jpg (300x225, 22K)

Nintendo were purposely doing stall tactics during negotiations to delay Sony's entramcd as long as possible. They never had any intentions in signing the contract. Just to keep Sony mislead. Nintendo knew if proper hardware competition entered the race, they were fucked.

Also because of Kaz Hirai's policy of keeping PSX a 3rd-party friendly platform by not imposing arbitrary barriers just to avoid getting your own games outsold. Sony pretty much let 3rd parties rule on the PSX whereas on Nintendo they were just bogged down by Nintendo's ridiculous policies. PSX was a huge boom for 3rd parties both for PSX being very easy to develop for and for Sony's assistance. Remember Net Yaroze? Sony supported indies 20 years before it became cool.

Well you have a point that and Nintendo was still huge on censorship then lot of foolish hills to die on

Part of the reason Nintendo choked out third party devs so hard during the 4th and 5th gen was because they didn't want to be responsible for another market crash like what finished off Atari, who was once the undisputed vidya juggernaut at home and in the arcades. So Nintendo did stuff like make third parties pay the printing cost of their own cartridges on top of whatever licensing was involved. That acted as both a barrier of entry, and also ensured that if devs put out a shit game that Nintendo wouldn't lose a dime on the bomb because the devs paid out of pocket for that. In the end this obviously made third parties resent Nintendo though.

>Nintendo knew if proper hardware competition entered the race, they were fucked
That didn't happen though

I had both a PS1 and an N64. And as I recall I played my PS1 a great deal more than I played my N64. But that's not to say N64 didn't have it's niche. I'd argue N64 was the console you were playing when you had friends over while PS1 was the console you played primarily when you were alone or only had a single friend/sibling to games with. N64 came with 4 controller ports while for PS1 you'd need a multitap and most games didn't support 4 way split screen.

Looking at my collection (I don't actively collect retro-games so these are what I had as a kid) I have a total of 12 N64 games and 88 PS1 games. When it was Friday night and my friends were over and we were ordering a pizza looking forward to the weekend we played Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye, Bomberman 64, Gauntlet Legends, BattleTanx, Smash, ect and we didn't all sit around Playing Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil or Xenogears.

Attached: faggots playing n64.jpg (2048x1536, 780K)

>N64 was the console you were playing when you had friends over while PS1 was the console you played primarily when you were alone
It's funny how accurate this is. Everyone has memories of playing Mario Kart 64 since all it took was one friend in your group to have the system, even though the system didn't sell well.

>Mega Man

not even remotely
9, 10, 11 were all on nintendo systems
>Mega Man X
enjoy your awful games, I guess. No real loss there
>Pac-Man
world 1 was god tier but 2 is on GC and was fun
>Final Fantasy
7, 9 and x are on the switch, cloud is in smashcouldnt even get cloud in PSABR LMAO
>Dragon Quest
all on 3DS/switch
>mana
died on the SNES, so....
4 was best on GC/Wii, sucked ASS on PS2. 5 was mediocre, 3DS got mercenaries and revelations, 6 is cancer, so congrats on 7 I guess
>Dino Crisis
capcom killed it anyway, who care
>Digimon
niche game few actually played past the 1st
>Ridge Racer
who cares
>Mr Driller
literally who cares

This was pretty accurate. You used the N64 for Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and any other multiplayer game. You used the PS1 for RPGs and so on. The only multiplayer time I remember on the PS1 was Monster Rancher, and that involved spending hours on your own training your monster before a one-round fight where you both were playing.

Oh, and there was multiplayer in Legend of Mana. That was fun.

white>black>grey

>Mega Man X
>enjoy your awful games
Edgy

Yes decades after the ps1 final fantasy 7 came to the Switch

That happened with home consoles.

Would''ve happened with handhelds aswell but NDS became a huge unexpected hit with the non-gaming crowd which expanded the handheld audience massively for that gen.

Don't act like Sony is a victim, they wanted an insane percentage of control on Nintendo IPs

everything after X3 ranged from just ok to pure garbage

Nintendo survived because they put out quality 1st party titles
>along with the Nintendo 64 being a simply terrible piece of hardware
It shits all over the gaystation1 what the fuck are you talking about

And Nintendo made them believe they could have that for stalling tactics. Sony was so sure the contract would happen they even went out and advertised it and then suffered a huge humiliation for it.

>Nintendo survived because they put out quality 1st party titles
and that's all they'll ever need to do because their games are just that good

X3 was pure garbage, X4 was leagues better.

I don't think that bringing up games or ports over a decade later really invalidates the claim that the PS1 got all the games, and that third parties left the N64 barren. Not all the claims are accurate, mind you, but a lot more are than you seem to imply.

>Mega Man
Inaccurate. While MM9 was not until two console generations afterwards, PS1 only got MM8 and it was generally poorly received. Mega Man classic would still be best described as a Nintendo series, especially with Mega Man & Bass coming out on GBA just two years later.

>Mega Man X
Accurate, although I'd say MMX4 (despite its faults) was an excellent game.

>Pac-Man
I'd question the other way. Was Pac-Man really a big Nintendo franchise? The game itself was on all types of systems, and while I don't remember Pac-Man on Genesis, I don't really remember it being significant on Nintendo systems either.

>Final Fantasy
>Dragon Quest
Both of these were solid Playstation series, especially if you wanted new ones. True, DQ1-3 got Game Boy versions and the games before FF6 got GBA ports, but all the new games were on Playstation consoles. It wasn't until the 3DS that recent Dragon Quests games were on Nintendo systems (not counting DQ9) and FF7+ still isn't on Nintendo.

>Mana
Legend of Mana was the best game in the series, fight me. Although I'll agree that Mana basically died after that so it didn't really matter which system it was on.

The point of Dino Crisis, Digimon, and Mr. Driller is that they would've been on a Nintendo system, presumably, and kept more people interested in Nintendo. As it was, the games kept people playing their PS1, and why bother picking up a N64 for Pokemon Stadium when you could just get Digimon on the PS1?

I'm not sure who cared about Ridge Racer, though.

>how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive the PlayStation 1
They didn't, really. Nintendo Sirvived via Gameboy/Gameboy color.
God, Play 1 and 2 were such amazing consoles. I miss old Sony so much.

Nigga you deadass sound like the Webster dictionary defition of a bitch nigga. You can't even hold a valid arguement when you love a game made on ps1.

The Wii was the only Nintendo home console to be successful after PlayStation entered the chat

Attached: Nintendo_Switch_Sales_over_Time.png (2000x4000, 356K)

Mifflin Devin, is that you?

Attached: 1565522712228.jpg (750x745, 52K)

Mgea Man X for the SNES was the best Mega Man
Change my mind

do you niggers know how to read

I was siding with nintendo

Fox, Prime, Pokémon Sonority, Kirby, Paper Mario TTYD. First party was better.
But third party in Ps2 was insane. It's, of course, even better.

You called X awful which I'll agree it did become awful later on but X1 is the best Mega Man

The Switch is already a huge success and still selling like hotcakes. It's likely going to end up pretty close to the Wii's numbers by the end of its life.

>Change my mind
I'm not going to change your mind, because it is right, but MMX4 was quite good and gave a ton of content to play through. MMX kind of died after that, with MMX5 being weaker and the following games going to shit.

>How the hell did Nintendo make it?
because their 1st party titles are sublime, and because heritage
it's the same that is happening with Sony now: it's not their best time at all, but people still buy the system out of heritage/nostalgia/defacto standard
It's one of the reasons why the Switch is an hybrid console: to avoid competing with the PlayStation, and their stunt really paid off

Shut the fuck up reploid scum you defamed X.

The switch is a handheld

Attached: progressive_womin.jpg (1076x688, 153K)

5 would be good without the 4th armor. you get none of the initial difficulty that comes from not having parts. kills any challenge there would be

X8 was a better game than X3

It's a hybrid that took the place of both the Wii U and 3DS. It's very much still a console.

congrats on worst post of the day

Attached: 1537641755273.gif (382x554, 2.57M)

So Reddit it hurts

You've got shit taste bro, and sorry it's inoperable.

Attached: data preserved.gif (316x231, 327K)

It's 1995. You're a kid sitting in your room. You're listening to your mom or dad's radio station being played across the room. You're looking inside the package your dad got you on his way back from work. It's a gaming magazine. You're reading it and you hear about this 'Mega 64'. You're excited. The Super nintendo you had been playing has fallen behind a bit. You were tempted into trying to persuade your parents to get you the Playstation, but you hold out. You start jumping up in down in excitement on how you really want this mega 64 thing when it comes out.

Flash forward. It's christmas of 1996. You unwrap a present and it's the N64. You're excited. Really excited. What's the first thing you try and boot up to play?

crash bandicoot, but i cant because they got me a shitendo 64

>What's the first thing you try and boot up to play?
A rope because my parents bought the bing bing wahoo console instead of playstation

This. 7th gen was the era of dudebro pewpew AAA bullshit.

At least the 8th gen brought back a little bit of the charm of 90s/early 00s gaming.

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3

Attached: 1545247861127.jpg (306x306, 23K)

>it's not their best time at all, but people still buy the system out of heritage/nostalgia/defacto standard
Partiall correct, sentiment is wrong. The PS4 as a platform is considered the defacto, so that you are correct about, it sells well because everyone wants Call of Duty, Fifa, Madden, NBA 2k, Grand Theft Auto, Battlefield and all the other games most people buy. As far as Playstations own games go, this is critically and commercially their best generation ever.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the N64 really only was popular because of three reasons:

>Household name
>Incumbent console
>Video Store Support

These are the reasons why Nintendo wasn't completely floored by the Sony playstation. Other reasons include:

>Sony was a newcomer to the console market
>Sony was known more for their electronics than their computers
>CDs were still viewed as 'expensive technology' in the eyes of some.
>Some people just didn't believe some of the hardware. See Crash Bandicoot E3 premiere.

>What's the first thing you try and boot up to play?
Super Mario 64, and I'd probably get motion sickness like I did the first time I played it in a store demo.

Mario and zelda, duh

Zoomers

Boomer

See, your elitism has clouded your minds. Back then, as a kid, console wars meant nothing. You were happy with what you had. This is coming from a guy who got a PlayStation as a kid, and this was much later when it was on sale.

It's more of the perceived value
Imagine the Switch sold more because of Halo and NBA live. It would be a commercial success, but the old aficionado would feel different.
I feel the same with the current state of Sony. They have culturally peaked. They are the standard on this gen, but the og people are very dissatisfied
Sony not going to E3 is the biggest joke ever
There is a real disconnection between their fanbase and their hw sales right now. Not that their pockets are not full, but the satisfaction is not there, and at the end of the day, the og people are the real audience... they casuals always move on, and mobile is bigger than ever

That's more about how you personally feel, not about how their general consumers fee..
>There is a real disconnection between their fanbase and their hw sales right now
Based on, their first party titles are regularly hitting series highs, and many new IPs are pushing well past previously well established IPs, and their hardware continues to do well.
>they casuals always move on
You're ignoring that the PS4 has captured the core market almost entirely, they will be moving onto the PS5, definitely.

this. ps4 is the first playstation i never bought, and i dont plan on it. aside from medievil, they have nothing i want coming out or already released

You're absolutely right. I've supported Playstation since the early days of the PS1, I perservered with the Vita for years after it "died", and now you mention it I haven't turned on my PS4 since January.

As a switch owner

HOW FUCKING DARE YOU NOT BUY A PS4 YOU FUCKING CUNT I NEED PEOPLE OT HATE FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR FAT RED ASSED MOTHER

>they will be moving onto the PS5, definitely.
casuals will move to the first streaming service that offers a vault of casual game "services"
ie: the FIFA game subscription, the platformer indies "channel"... I understand the USA is way behind in terms of internet access, thanks to the horrible lobby you have there, but here in EU, I've been playing on geforce now for an entire year, and this is so the future it hurts
it really works. console hardware is a thing for the ogs
in a matter of two years, they will sell more bluetooth gamepads for your smart tv than consoles, and your TV will include Playstation Now

You have no idea what you are talking about

Not a whole lot of options for christmas of 1996.

Attached: Christmas 1996.jpg (1820x563, 218K)

While streaming breaks down the biggest barrier to entry video games have, the large initial buy in, they just aren't quite there for mass adoption, and most of that is the latency, a problem that isn't really going to go away.
It's easily the only competition that the PS5 has to it's dominance, but I'm still doubting that it makes any real dent, even then the PS5 while losing it's dominant position within video games that it has will remain the main platform for dedicated gaming hardware, Niche games continue to sell overwhelmingly on Playstation hardware.

I only had SNES and N64 until around 2003 when I got a super cheap PSX bundle as a present. The PSX has more of my "all time" favorite games now in 2019 but I am happy I had the N64 when I did. It was the type of games I liked at that time and awesome 4 player memories I treasure.

>latency
I really have to disagree on this
I understand the complains about it if you are playing Doom or some other fast twitch game, but for everyday gaming, its perfectly good, and I don't mean "fine". It's really really good
As I said, I only play games on the cloud since last year, and I don't miss my rig at all.
There's plenty of agenda from journos and the current industry to shit on Stadia and similar just because they want their industry to keep being the same, but in terms of technology, we are already there
Go play on Geforce Now if you don't believe me: it's freaking free

The console that made nintendo lose good 3rd party support forever and ever

Attached: 12548954324.jpg (1000x1000, 347K)

When sony announced the "partnership" their announcement was a console called the Sony PlayStation, with nintendo games on it.

>foolish hills to die on
It seems like a dumb idea now, but at the time there had been congerssional hearings on banning video games outright every other election cycle.

>How the hell did Nintendo make it
Legacy and first party titles.

Pac Man World was so good. Looks like you're missing Tekken 2/3, THPS2 and Abe's Oddysee though.

Whats a "good third party"?

PlayStation games don't have replay value. Hell they barely have play value.

>fast twitch game
So everyone is going to be playing Fire Emblem or some other turn based game? even platformers will be hard, and most people want fps, tps and racing games, games that just aren't compatible, a delay of 1 second which Stadia is surpassing is too much for these games, realistically that's too much for any game, but some people play phone games.
Not everyone lives close enough to these server farms to enjoy even a reasonable amount of latency.
I live in the middle of nowhere, my latency will be shit either way.
Streaming has been around for years yet we haven't seen anything catch on, it's going nowhere, Playstation will continue to be the dominant gaming brand.

Absolutely deluded.

Go beg more for Persona 5.

Why is the black Yea Forums hand so fucking funny

>still hasn't gotten back even fragments of that support
nintendo are truly pathetic.

blackweeb is kinda based.

you are parroting journo lies
the only game i've found the latency to be noticeable is Doom on Nightmare
once again, go play on Geforce Now: it is free
BTW, Sony has their own cloud service, and the catalogue is free
the only people complaining about latency are journos, wifi retards, and data cap lards

>Persona
I didn't even want Joker as a character in Smash. He's an eyesore, kind of like you niggarell.

Sure as a dumb kid you were happy with what you got. But with adulthood, you can just look up at the era and come to the conclusion that PSX was objectively superior in near every criteria in the book. The huge library of games and their variety simply wasn't on N64 at all.

Attached: psx.jpg (640x1024, 230K)

When did Nintendo ever have Ape Escape?

Anyone know of a simple/cheap way to connect ps1/2 memory card to pc ? I know of the ps2 fmcb method but was hoping for something more like the ps3 card adapter, which are pretty expensive for an adapter. There's the dexdrive as well, but that + cable is kinda expensive and risky because of possible compatibility issues.
Is there anything else?

Attached: ye.png (628x640, 934K)

>What I'm curious about is just how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive the PlayStation 1
Because they have a metric fuck ton of their own IPs that can support a system and create selling points on top of the fact that they've mastered the art of game development and know how to keep costs low but the quality high. Its why their failurea can usually make them a profit.

Nah Nintendo is doing great and always have been

I live in the middle of nowhere in a backwater country, I'm not going to be able to get a good idea of what streaming for most people will be like
Clearly there are problems outside of latency, game streaming has been around for more than 5 years, yet it's still very niche.

As an adult I realized the 5th gen was inferior to 4th. Low poly just didn't age as well as peak sprite.

>Digimon
Except Digimon existed before the ps1 as the v pets themselves.
Also the first video game proper was Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers on the Saturn if I remember right.

I can agree with that too. The best looking games of 5th gen are 2/2.5D for that reason.

Attached: sotn.jpg (640x480, 34K)

yeah, but that is because it is very expensive
Geforce Now is free, and you play the games you own on Steam/Epic/Uplay/Origin
worth a test
to put it in perspective, video encoding technology is freaking amazing now, and game streaming is more like youtube than a game

>Because Nintendo's trash consoles are the easiest to emulate retard
Which would mean that there's an incredibly high demand for their games.

>which presumably
Thats a fucking strech buddy, the saturn existed and got RE1 and tomb raider where N64 didn't

t. zoomers

Eh, at the very least Nintendo stuck to their guns and just made whatever they felt like as usual.

>>Mega Man
>>Mega Man X
To be fair the ps1 did ruin these. It wouldn't be until Zero that Mega Man got back on track.

>nintendo still has Resident Evil

huh... i must have missed that switch copy of REmake 2 somehow

Attached: C4DEBDB9-B6A1-41AA-B94C-769E5A9716E9.jpg (602x655, 297K)

LMAO AMERICANS

not to mention RE7 (lol onlive streamed shit only japan) and castlevania is dead

>They create better games than everybody else.

absolutely no

>remember old playstation

who cares?

why not talk about the PS3 or PS4's library?

oh right they were awful dog shit my bad

Those have kino games

Attached: 45689867645664.jpg (1440x1440, 582K)

Will tendies ever be able to stop based blackweeb in his savagery?

Tell me about it, my ps4 hasn't seen a new game in forever let alone a good exclusive.

>7,9 and x are on the switch

CLAP EVERYONE! ONLY TWO DECADES LATER! WE KNEW WE SHOULD JUST WAIT BACK THEN! PAID OFF! THIS TOTALLY MATTERS WHEN DISCUSSING N64 IN 1997

Capcom

>9, 10, 11 were all on nintendo systems
As well as the zero, BN and ZX series.

wot

using your logic PC is best because 20 years later guarenteed every game is on it

>good
>killed off their good IPs like BoF and Dark Stalkers
>slowly killing off the rest by pandering to the west

I've never seen ps1 in colors other than grey, what did they release these other colors for?
>What I'm curious about is just how the hell Nintendo's home consoles managed to survive the PlayStation 1.
Financially they barely did, the N64's sales were abysmal by comparison and the Game Boy is what kept Nintendo alive.
>How the hell did Nintendo make it?
See above, the Game Boy and its hilariously massive sales.

Attached: reasons to live.jpg (480x365, 24K)

>sequels, ports, remakes, and cheap ass half-digital classic collections
>good

this is your brain on crapcum

Except they are absolutely peak right now you retard and no one ever cared about those two franchises even then. No one cares about darkstalkers outside of capcom illustrations and artwork, hence why they were able to just last month sell a new collection art book in place of an actual game

Attached: C3C276D4-728A-43EC-BD3F-E0D203884DB7.jpg (1434x1934, 646K)

The only thing I hated about the 360/PS3 rivalry is that EVERY multiplatform game ran better on 360, because of (I assume) more ram.

What do you "wot"? If they're some of the most downloaded games to the point where rom sites closed due to not being able to make enough using the remaining platforms they have then clearly there's a much higher demand for Nintendo games.

Demand doesn't just come from what you pay for you idiot.

That weird, you basically jusy described Nintendo but inserted the word "capcom" instead. Huh.

Attached: 3C9E8A44-D55C-45C7-8F97-0CEA7099E5E9.png (522x502, 282K)

>Except they are absolutely peak right now
Sure if you're a bootlicker, they couldn't even make a good Mega Man game themselves.

>has the most easily to emulate hardware on the net
>like its EVERY console they EVER made, handhelds too
>most emulated end up being them

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Not him but when was the last time Nintendo made a compilation game?

>but nintendo

when was the last time Capcom even made a new IP?

Are you being an idiot on purpose?

Ok contrarian lets pretend they didn't release 2 GOTY contenders this very year alone sure. Anything to be hipster on Yea Forums huh?

Attached: 905AD9CE-6893-4342-B460-92D15ECA7B11.png (680x596, 543K)

They released whole mini consoles

>Except they are absolutely peak right now
They have a laser focus on only three IPs right now and don't make anything else.
MH
SF
And DMC hopefully.

That's very far from "peak".

Are you?

The two blue ones, one is review model for magazines, the other is developer? I know the black one is net yaroze, but what's the white one with video CD written on it?

Which aren't digital only compilations.l like that user said.

I heard psn name change can erase trophies, are there other issues?

>Company A got a lot of games so CLEARLY company B should've automatically bankrupted
>No their games don't count of course

N64 sold 32 million units, PS1 sold 102 million units. PS1 won that generation by a longshot in terms of sales. And the N64 sales were down from the SNES's 49m. The next gen was even more of a gap with 150m PS2 sales vs 21m GC sales, though you have to keep in mind that a big reason the PS2 sold so well was because it was for the time one of the cheapest DVD players you could buy AND it played games.

You wanna know how Nintendo weathered this storm? The Game Boy sold 118 million units. The GBA sold 81 million. Nintendo survived on its handheld market because let's face it, they were the only game in town. Who was gonna compete with them, the fucking Wonderswan? 3m sales, the Game Boy wipes its ass with the WS's numbers.

Attached: NOPE!.png (648x450, 307K)

What has that got to do with anything?

>contrarian
Do you even know what this word means? It's not some kind of beat all defense you know.
Regardless only two good games in one year is absolutely abysmal.

OH WELL FUCK ME! THEY ARENT DIGITAL! I DIDN'T REALISE THE DISTRIBUTION METHOD WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART! ALSO HE DIDNT ACTUALLY SAY DIGITAL AT ALL RETARD! WELL DONE!

>what has that got to do with a company who pumps out nothing but sequels, remakes, ports and classic collections and will do so for the foreseeable future

who fucking knows retard

How many good games in one year does Capcom need to release???? 8 months in?

>they will be moving onto the PS5, definitely.
The PS2 had a much higher percentage of market share than the PS4 does and look at how that panned out?

Correct? What DOES that have to do with A N Y T H I N G? make your actual point or fuck off. Are you saying "bad game"? What? What is your actual fucking point?

>Street Fighter V
>MvCi
>he thinks crapcom can't sink one of their franchises at the drop of a hat

>ALSO HE DIDNT ACTUALLY SAY DIGITAL AT ALL
>and cheap ass half-digital classic collections
Maybe you should spend less time defending capcom and more time in basic literacy classes.

How what panned out? Both those consoles are massive succesful.

>le pretend to be retarded because you've got no argument argument

commit suicide anytime bro

Also you have to keep in mind inflation on console cost. Yes it says the NES/SNES were $199, but in the times they were released that was the equivalent of 500/400 bucks respectively. And if you're curious, no that doesn't mean the 40 bucks you spent on videogames in the PS2 era is the same as 60 you spent now, 40 bucks in 2004 is about $54 now so you're still technically paying more than you did back then.

Because unlike Sony, Nintendo have been making high quality video GAMES themselves for the past 35 years.

>they didn't release 2 GOTY contenders this very year alone sure.
DMC and...

Why are you posting some other user? I replied to this guy with my comment and that is clear? You fucking retard?

Attached: 043EF228-A092-45AA-933D-E67A56A77672.jpg (640x144, 68K)

Are these spray painted or official colors? They look official to me.

this kid is unironically a fucking retard

I'm referring to the PS3's pathetic launch.

You STILL aren't saying ANYTHING. WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING POINT? oh no! Two GOTY contenders are sequels so.... doesn't count??

...

A lot of PS1 games also had companion titles for GameBoy Color.

The N64 financially tanked, you can't dispute this. It sold less than a third of the competitor, over a quarter less than the previous Nintendo console. and hurt the company to a level that they didn't recover from console-wise until the Wii era.

epic bro. Simply.

xbox and nintendo still aren't competition to Playstation, and the PS5 is already drumming up a lot of attention, specs wise it's already more powerful than the xbox next and Playstation exclusives have really come into their own and are one of the main attractions of their platform, Uncharted 4 is past 15 million units, it's the best selling single player exclusive this gen.

What was the most expensive console?

You forgot to post your words user. You wasted everyones time.

Oh yeah well that was pretty bad. That said, it should have done Xbone numbers but didn't somehow. People still suggest it outsold the 360 in lifetime sales.

>Why are you posting some other user
You mean the user that sparked your rage and posted the part I was referring to?
I don't know why I would be posting that.

Oh and if you didn't pick up on it I'm being sarcastic.

...

>specs wise it's already more powerful than the xbox
[citation needed]
>Playstation exclusives have really come into their own and are one of the main attractions of their platform
PS2 had waaaayyyyy better exclusives, and most of the normies I know that own them use it as a COD/FIFA/Madden machine
>Uncharted 4 is past 15 million units, it's the best selling single player exclusive this gen
Mario Odyssey is only half a million sales behind it on like 40% of the install base

>Uncharted 4 is past 15 million units, it's the best selling single player exclusive this gen.
You know Odyssey has outsold it as of July, right?

This $1000 bad boy. Yes that's a thousand after adjusting for inflation, and this machine was insanely powerful for 1990. Even most PCs weren't on its level. It was so expensive that it was originally just for rental in Japan because they knew no one at home would be crazy enough to buy it. Good games too assuming you like SNK.

Attached: 1920px-Neo-Geo-AES-Console-Set.png (1920x634, 714K)

>Look up N64 sales
>Sold over 20 million in America alone
Why did America love the N64 so much more than everyone else?

>GOTY contender

Who gives a fuck about king of shit mountain. Can you tell me with a straight face that DMC5 is better, or even worth playing, over DMC3?

America has half the population of the entirety of Europe in it.

He's never played previous entries in the series, that's how it usually is with modern capcom defenders.

And a quarter the population of Africa. Doesnt mean those fucks buy games.

No? But its up there and a good game? Why are you being sucj an absolutist retard?

My point is we have a lot more potential buyers than Japan.

I'd say it's less about visuals and more to do with controls as no one had quite figured out how to properly control a 3D character in a 3d world alongside a 3D camera that would track the player and keep on the action on screen without being a total mess, yet. Controllers needed to evolve, the PS1 and N64 contollers as they were at launch weren't right and it wasn't until dual analogue took over and we had games using one stick for player movement and the other stick for the camera that 3D games really came into their own. Mario 64 defined 3D character movement as needing analogue to feel natural, D-Pads just didn't work well with 3D characters in 3D environments but the N64 only had the one stick so camera controls sucked, dual shock comes along and brings much needed analogue support to the PSX but no one knew that the second stick should be used for the Camera yet and not a whole lot of support for dual shock. So we got some games with dual stick support but the controls but people still hadn't figured out how to use it and since dual shock was optional not many took the dive. Also you had the problem with just performance, both N64 and PSX struggled to maintain playable framerates. We all remember various N64 games like Goldeneye struggling to maintain 10fps but most PSX games weren't much better.

So when PS2 and Gamecube came along with that second stick as a standard and enough horse power to actually render games in 30 or 60 fps that's when 3D finally got out of it's awkward phase.

Then again if you look at PC 3D FPS games made it through this transition just fine because the mouse and keyboard was more than capable of handing pointing, shooting, and player movment which took care of 3D player 3D world and 3D camera all at once. Games like Wolf3D and Marathon (pioneered Free/Mouse look) pretty much laid the groundwork for the entire genre so as a result those games as still perfectly playable. Quake, Duke, Unreal, Half-Life, Counter-Strike ect

Nice assumptions i guess. Its easier to just fabricate "the enemy" in your head than to make actual arguments i guess

Attached: FFDD6A0D-125F-43B0-8A17-D36009297AA8.jpg (1786x2048, 609K)

Because Perfect Dark was the best game exist in that generation. It was a complete console game in an era where multiplayer was basically just two people.

The point is that I could be playing hentai games with more effort in them than the 2019 GOTY list, and abandoned indie projects with more heart than the entire 3rd party lineup for the past fifteen years.

>The point is that I could be playing hentai games with more effort in them than the 2019 GOTY list

I think you are being quite unreasonable here and that probably many oher would think so too.

N64 was the birth place of console shooters.

Attached: B1EBA5AC-C522-487C-8FE1-2CF295B7BDEF.gif (500x232, 989K)

Nintendo was an industry leader before PSX and did fine while it was out. There was also Pokemon like others said; if Nintendo never had Pokemon's success to fall back on, the next few years would have looked much worse for the company. Gamecube vs. PS2/Xbox was a far bigger problem for them as it seemed as though the entire industry was outgrowing them in every important aspect. PSX's introduction was primarily felt by Sega, which promptly destroyed the Saturn and the PS2 made short work of the Dreamcast. Unlike Nintendo, Sega never had the legacy, franchises or sheer capital needed to beat or even compete with Sony. Hell, the fact that you didn't even mention it shows how badly it lost; it's post Genesis/MD existence is a footnote.

Also, of the games mentioned I would not classify Street Fighter or Pacman as Nintendo games, and Dragon Quest is now practically a Nintendo series. I feel you also overestimate the importance and success of PSX games; Dino Crisis for example never broke 1M sales while games like Banjo or Goldeneye did far, far better. What was definitely a bigger problem was the sheer amount of franchises it had over Nintendo, many of which had absolutely no analogous games on the N64, like MGS or Tekken.

So you're arguing people force themselves to pirate and play Nintendo games just because it's easy? Which historically isn't even true because at least here in Europe Playstation was the piracy brand, which stopped being true only when things got harder with the PS3. Not that I'm saying this as a detriment to PS1 and 2, it's just a fact that we pirated the shit out of those games, Disney's Tarzan used to be literally my only original copy of a game