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Shit game.

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What are you trying to say, retard?

>Nerf Brigitte into the ground because Tracer and Genji mains piss and moan loud as you like until it happens
>Moira can still go 5 golds every game without a lick of effort
>Can't actually play who you want to play because people will instalock their mains and absolutely refuse to play anything else
I don't want to play Overwatch.

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There's nothing on this board worth archiving

>kept playing as deep as the Brigitte release

You never had any hope. Go back.

No thanks. I moved back to TF2. Made me realize how much more I liked it in comparison. Overwatch is literally only good for fapping.

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>New Hero has power over gravity and lacks sanity.
>Lol chuck rock and calmly toss diet scatter arrows.

I still play it when some faggots drag me in for a game or two. Doesn't mean I enjoy it.

The r34 has slowed down drastically for Overwatch so I quit playing it for awhile. I check in once in awhile to see Windowmaker's beautiful ass.

>Windowmaker
Garbage taste my guy, right next to D.Va faggotry

could have been a character that has 1 ability that pulls allies and enemies towards him and another that knocks shit backwards while dealing damage. his ult could've been like a big area effect that slows and damages whatever is in it so that the gameplay is all about controlling and denying space.

nope, instead BALLS AND SHIELDS

t brownfag or fatfag detected

I am right now.

But its garbage

All Overwatch characters are trash.

>t.Brigitte main
You know the only reason they added her is because trash tier players were crying about getting dabbed on by good Tracer and Genjis.

>Nerf Brigitte into the ground
Brigitte is way stronger now thanks to the three charges of her heal. Sure, the shield basically breaks as soon as someone looks at it, but at least it involves some decision making now when using it.

Why cant we just have Overwaifu threads without the false pretense of actually playing the shitheap that is the actual game?

As if I get to fucking main anyone in this game, all the pro widows, hanzos and genjis refuse to play anything else so that leaves me grabbing whatever tank or healer is going to carry their useless fucking asses the hardest.

I did, today
People are still retarded in that game though, so it's no fun

>pharah main
>2 new hitscan heroes
>1 new hero with another skill that eats ults instantly

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I tried fucking playing it but this shit keeps crashing in the middle of games

Check your RAM. When Blizzard games start crashing there's a good chance that your RAM is dying.

who are you quoting?

Okay but I get the Hog

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nah
maybe if they added some actual cool characters instead of generic anime waifusluts id be interested

my ram isn't even six months out of the box, could my luck be that bad?

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why do people edit clips like this, you can barely tell what is going on

Blizzard should just do porn

I wish I got any chances at all to practice playing Ashe

>you will never fall asleep with ur head between Brigittes tights while she is reading on the bed

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taking control away from the character is lazy design change my mind

I can smell the casual from all the way here, I think the Blizzard forums are more to your taste faggot.

I'm not going to, because you're right. The game is full of stupid design choices, or maybe it's more accurate to say it keeps reusing the same few stupid design choices.
Two characters have what amounts to hacks in other games, so many abilities prevent the target from taking action, everyone has infinite ammo which promotes just spraying into a hairball and picking up random kills, many characters are countered by so many new additions and have been basically forgotten about. And they just keep adding more and more fucking barriers to the game, as if anyone finds it fun to put down a wall and sit behind it, shooting at the other guy's wall while anyone who flanks gets picked off for not being behind their team's wall.

Funny, nigger. I looked at their forums and they're more anti-Brig than anyone. Why? Because you're all fucking epic "mains" who legit cannot fucking play worth shit.
You instalock your favorite character to DAB ON THE ENEMY TEAM like an EPIC GAMER and then get bronze medals if you're lucky. I'd be less fucking irate about it if I weren't getting all the gold medals as a support, but you useless cocksuckers are beyond help.

In short, neck yourself you pointless waste of carbon.

AND NOW I WANNA
BE YOUR DOG

>when he's a mcree fag

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you are cliche

all these Sigma shitters making this the best patch to be a Sym main, ngl

>Sym main

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i like lasers

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You even talk like one too, that's kind of crazy, I think you should go back there you definitely fit in more there than here.

I play with my friends a few times a week but man does the game feel stale. The level design and modes stifle creativity, especially with the role queue in effect now every match feels more and more the same.

Also, does the 2-2-2 seem like Blizzard's way of admitting they have given up actually balancing the characters?

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This is seriously one of the worst designed currently active MP games.
So incredibly shallow, poorly balanced and designed that anyone above average intelligence gets mored within second of playing the game.

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>You know the only reason they added her is because trash tier players were crying about getting dabbed on by good Tracer and Genjis.
Supports can't do anything against them, that's the problem.
They're just healbots.

Paladins is unironically a better game. After playing both for 200 hours, I can say so. Less sjw, more characters, more fun.

never

i had lost gallons of semen to Overwatch bitches...
never touched the game, zoomers fuck on it.

Can pharah get a rework please?

The game needs a rework.

I don't understand how a billion dollar company with hundreds of workers can only manage to crank out a few maps every year. I mean maybe they could make a couple of esport tier perfectly balanced maps a year, but as a casual player I would have liked dozens of new maps to play on. It got fucking boring after 6 months because boring chokepoint maps and too much focus on balancing instead of fun.

>Also, does the 2-2-2 seem like Blizzard's way of admitting they have given up actually balancing the characters?
Jeff admitted that 2-2-2 is to help them balance the game, which actually says a lot of how bad they actually are at their jobs.

I love my wife Olivia!

No! Take this, OP!

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Where's my Tracer/Mei feet skin, Blizzard?

Because new maps and heroes don't actually make them money.
Time exclusive events with exclusive lootbox content are the biggest cash cows. So long as they have that they don't need to do shit.

Why would you want more maps? It just creates more randomness, and most of the new maps Blizzard put out are terrible anyway

Where's my wife Mei's swimsuit skin?

I want to see her in a two piece swimsuit and bridal dress.

>It just creates more randomness
because I'm not an autistic who needs to read up the most effective strategy for each character on each map and would just like to experiment myself. Why do blizzard keep adding new heroes with new abilities? It just creates more randomness. Like I said they need to identify that their casual audience has different values than their esport streamer audience.

tshlop!

>adds role queue
>still can't opt out of maps and modes

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Role queue saved this game for me. I can just spam braindead Reaper every game and gain elo.

youtu.be/aGl6z8fEMKU

I prefer SMITE, gets new playable characters and balance patches way more often than OW does.

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Are you a robot?
>I can just spam braindead Reaper every game and gain elo
Reread what you just typed and fix your brainlet mentality. This is even worse than being a blizzdrone.

Give me one (1) good reason why the shitty medal system shouldn't be replaced with a proper scoreboard.

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Because Blizzard thinks it would be toxic.

brig's healing is strong as fuck now.

She is almost entirely converted to another healbot support now, like the rest of them.

toxic players will use scoreboards to flame others

I play with friends a few times a week as well, Love 2-2-2, we can actually get competetive games consistently now rather than having to deal with 4-5 dps shit every other game.

The only map we all hate is Paris, it just needs another way to the point other than that hard choke at the cafe.

Would you rather Pharah's abs or Brigitte's abs?

No

Balancing a character against every possible squad combination of, what, 30 other characters? Is an impossible task. Not saying they're off the hook, just saying they were fucked from the start.
There is no gameplay niche that hasn't already been filled at least twice over in the roster, it's ridiculous.

>billion dollar company
>hundreds of workers
That's not how budgeting works. The map creation team don't get to just dip in to the entire Blizzard bank account, nor do they get to commandeer as many of those hundreds of staff as they need to create new content as fast as possible.

They most likely have some content schedule based on how much they need to trickle out to the user base in order to sustain interest. Then an appropriate amount of people and resources would be budgeted to meet that schedule, no more no less. They are releasing this few maps because they simply don't want to release them any more often than they are.

Why isn't that a problem in other games?

>Balancing a character against every possible squad combination of, what, 30 other characters? Is an impossible task. Not saying they're off the hook, just saying they were fucked from the start.
Dota 2 can manage to get over 100 heroes viable and picked in the international but Blizzard can't balance their fewer and way more shallow heroes?

I want to be the meat in that sandwich

>you still can't choose what map or ever what game mode you want to play in overwatch
>not even in quick mode or arcade
imagine actually playing blizzard games, how can you have such little self respect to deal with their shit

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because overwatch, despite being one of the most hugbox game possible, has a massive toxicity problem

that guy is still a retard though it's not a valid excuse

>Balancing a character against every possible squad combination of, what, 30 other characters? Is an impossible task.

No its not. Almost 90 Gods out of slightly over 100 were used in pro-level in SMITE. Blizzard just doesn't know how to balance shit at all. Easy fixes for Overwatch balance would be to double the damage across the board and halve the healing (so you don't get healed back to full right after a fight, but that you got healed so you survived one teamfight but wont survive a second one if you dont back off to heal).

Couple of years ago SMITE had an overall healing nerfed with every god and the healers got a lot of damage or hefty QoL buffs to balance that out. As a result teamfights are much faster, things die much faster and yet healing is still very important because its the primary way to reset after a teamfight instead of during it.

And one very simple fix to the weakest OW heroes is to give them antiheal in their kit. If Torb gun- and turret shots give a heal debuff to the target for 3 secs (that doesn't stack) with each shot he makes, suddenly he has a very important role in the game despite sucking hard otherwise.

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If you can do this you must be in bronze. Even in gold he starts becoming useless against decent players.

No
Dota 2 and soon the Master Chief Collection outshines your shit game in every way shape and form and girls that look like Brigitte hardly even exist in gyms
Fuck off

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current OWL stage locked 2-2-2 and for the first time every character has been used in pro play.

>Easy fixes for Overwatch balance would be to double the damage across the board and halve the healing
Those are massive changes, you can't know that this is the solution to the balance problem without collecting data over many hours of testing from thousands of players, never mind the fact that you won't even get useful data until players have had time to adjust to such enormous changes and re-learned how to play.

Just double the damage, he says. Good grief.

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Is that supposed to be impressive? They're restricting choice and the potential for more varied & unique lineups to use 2-2-2 as a crutch for their shitty balancing skills.

>Just double the damage, he says.
OW also has a problem with way too long TTK. Hopping around in a circle slapping each other with wet rags is not fun gameplay or gunplay for that matter. Overall TTK is so slow that teams have to rely on extreme single target burst damage to kill anything.

overwatch would be a better game without full support and tank heroes. They just enable shitty players to keep playing like shit

I haven't played since season 2. What's the meta like now?

No, the shields are aids.

More shields and more heals and nobody dies now except from a lucky sniper shot.

>easy fixes for Overwatch balance would be to double the damage across the board and halve the healing
So time to kill is less than a second and both Hanzo and Widowmaker one shot to the body. And this is balance.

Maybe MOBA balancing tricks aren't automatically good fixes in a game that's also a team based FPS.

this was jeff's plan all along. kids don't like dying so the game is filled with healing out the ass and shields never seem to disappear

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On the contrary. When a 3rd person MOBA has more fast-paced teamfights than your "fast-paced shooter", then you got severe problems with your gameplay. Heres some highlights from a SMITE pro-player for example:

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You can see the difference, Hi-Rez both has background in making a PvP based shooter MMORPG and a teambased arena shooter so nowadays they know how to balance that shit out.

You even have other teambased FPS games with slightly longer TTKs than say CS, simply copy their ideas. Like lets say Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, average TTK 2-4 seconds, not 9-10 seconds like in OW. An FPS should not be more slow-paced than a fucking MOBA game and yet Overwatch is exactly that. Its boring jumping in a circle, shooting each other with peashooters because nothing fucking dies.

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>Comparing a moba to fps balance
Yea Forums is full of dumb fucks, jesus.

>wait for Q the game
no, no thanks

But they already use the medals for that.

>"Its fine when my fastpaced shooter is slower than a slower gaming genre!"
Turnbased RPGs end up having faster teamfights the way OW's balance is going.

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I dunno her healing is pretty damn good now, to the point where you're getting 90%+ kill participation cards on most matches. Release brigg was fucking retarded and you know it.

>800HP shield
>instant heal + armor overheal
>Armor was way stronger back then
>Rally armor was an extra 200 permanent armor
>5 second stun that could go through shields rendering heroes like Reinhart and winston useless in a teamfight
>The whip combo

People often say that Mercy is a braindead hero but release brig topped that because you're literally a dps/tank/support hybrid that could do anything and even carry your team without putting in any effort involved. It just goes to show how fucking retarded her kit was to the point where core mechanics had to be nerfed to tone her power down. If anything she actually warrants a complete rework from the ground up but these changes are acceptable for the time being.

Because it's targeted to kids.

Dumbfuck.

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Having faster time to kill would fuck up Overwatch even more and make Widow/Hanzo completely useless. Overwatch is slow because teams keep waiting until they get their ult to fight again, ults should be something that you have to carefully think when to use and not something you use every fight.

>Overwatch is slow because teams keep waiting until they get their ult to fight again, ults should be something that you have to carefully think when to use and not something you use every fight.

And the gameplay is this way because you can't win by gunplay alone. Too often the gameplay turns into a stalemate of healing and shields, so the only way to break that stalemate is to either get one very lucky kill or rely on ults. Faster TTK means guns are more powerful, which means you don't need ults in every single teamfight and positioning becomes far more important than jumping in a circle.

Once again things die much faster in a 3rd person action MOBA game and teamfights are over much more quickly. Overwatch really has no excuse for the fact the healing and shields are too strong and the game lacks any real AoE nukes to counter turtling- and bioballing tactics.

based

Thanks user

I was gifted the game a few months back and am curious how this game has survived this long when all Blizzard does is release two or three maps a year while recycling their dumb holiday events

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Blizzdrones are blind. Thats the main reason.

What is their content release schedule supposed to be?

>three heroes a year
>three maps a year
>systems updates every year

Having every character with a strong TTK would make healers useless, they need to completely change Overwatch to make something like this work.

I think having healers like Mercy was their biggest mistake since it requires nearly an entire team effort to kill a mercy focus healing someone, if they had only healers like Lucio and Zennyata this game would have a healthier meta.

They want the game to be low maintenance game like lol/dota

On the contrary. That was what an ultimate at the begining, used on targets who are already injured? It took like 4 seconds to kill them, longer than a number of ults in OW. I can hook and kill someone in like a second with a basic ability in Overwatch. Overwatch TTK is around 2 seconds generally. It's only 9-10 seconds if you're not good at aiming and you're hitting a target that's being healed by both supports or there's a barrier. Overwatch time to kill is about 2 seconds because the practice bots in the training range have 200 HP and you can kill them in like 2 seconds with body shots on many many characters.

Should I be thankful I don't know the context nor source of this?

Pharah is such an odd character, because if she doesn't have anyone to pocket her then she's effectively dead weight if the other team has hitscan. Plus her ultimate is like giving the enemy team a rope so they can hang you with it.

>Having every character with a strong TTK would make healers useless
No it doesnt. It ironically makes healing stronger because it becomes clutch- and reset healing. A person who can survive 4 bullets is more likely going to survive than the person who survives only 3. Once more in SMITE healing was nerfed across the board in the entire game but nowadays its more important than ever because it gives the team an edge in a teamfight, it just doesn't heal you back to full in seconds anymore like it used to, so if your team won but is badly blooded, they might have to pull back to heal in a safer place for a while.

In OW's case it would make the map health position control much more important too and add a whole new layer of depth to the game if healing wouldn't be so overly easy that it negates 95% of all gunplay happening in between ults.

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>Overwatch TTK is around 2 seconds generally.
If you're bronze. Nobody dies to Hog alone in higher level Overwatch, he always needs a combo of at least 2 other heroes and even then the target might not die. Not in higher level matches where healing and shields get obviously spammed because they're too good.

Nobody cares what bad players are doing, they stand in place shooting each other and the TTK with them is one second. If TTK would be 2 seconds in Overwatch in general, you wouldnt need every single ult in every single teamfight.

>make healing weaker so it's stronger
But what if we instead make healing stronger so it becomes weaker?

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Now I know you're in bronze or low silver. The higher in SR you go the lower the TTK is. People generally can't move their characters faster, but they get faster and faster at reacting and aiming. You can just watch higher level play and see that solo kills happen and quickly.

In a game with way less healing, what little bit healing you can find becomes more valuable. The only character you would need to change to have more of a hybrid role than just healbot would be Mercy but fuck Mercy and fuck Mercy mains.

>You can just watch higher level play and see that solo kills happen and quickly.
No they dont, because higher level players dont go solo. Now I know you're definitely a bronze player. The TTK is so slow that only high burst damage snipers get any kills outside ults, if its a match between higher levels or pros.

Show me a Pro League match where TTK was consistently under 6 seconds. And 2 second kills were continuously performed by other heroes than Widow or Hanzo.

>Nox is still the most fucking annoying god, and before the rework she was just boring as shit.
>Merlin and King Arthur come close 2nd and 3rd, and they were introduced one after the other
I still hate them for this (and Tribes), at least they have all fallen out of popularity. Also, Conquest is shit, and so is the current Joust map.

>fireden's Yea Forums archive is gone
and nothing of value was lost

>Dota 2 can manage to get over 100 heroes viable and picked
There is no viability in dota 2. It's literally a race to see who can get their OP ability online as fast as possible.

Almost any pro league match, especially if you're not a bitch who can't handle Widow or Hanzo.

Here's the first match video I found. Oh look it doesn't start with Widow or Hanzo and has some kills happening repeatedly in under 6 seconds within the first minute of the video.

youtube.com/watch?v=CEWKAD7YzvU

>went to check out the OW site to see what was new
Its just as creepy pozzed as ever
They are also advertising stuff thats three months old they really dont give a shit and neither do i.

Got to diamond within a week in season 2 or 1, I forget, game starts to get more and more boring and less fun every new patch
No thanks. The only way I would return to that poop, is if brigitte or mercy themselves blackmailed me with sex.
If they appeared through my screen and let me nut in them, that would be the ONLY way I would go back to overwatch, that or get given a shit tonne of money etc.

Also they've gone FULL sjw, it was sidelined before but not it's full fucking every character is gay, this ones queer, this ones black and gay, YOU WANT DIVERSITY? YOU WANT GAYS? PLS PLAY OUR GAME, WE HAVE SO MANY GAYS !
The only thing keeping blizz alive is classic and it's not even out yet.

Hah, stay mad bronzie, we know you don't even know what a silver match looks like, let alone pro league.

Havent played ow but she is the hottest character by far

Reaper death: 7 seconds after teamfight started. Mei, 8 seconds. Teamfights in SMITE are over in around 10-15 seconds for comparison, after which losing team either backs off or gets wiped out. Big difference.

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Do you know how to count?

Do you? 0:06 Reaper starts shooting. 0:14 Reaper dead. Tell me Blizzdrone, what is 14 minus 6?

I'm asking because you've just failed at counting. You seem to think that positioning during a fight is part of time to kill, you seem to think it's part of time to kill when they hit someone else, as opposed to when they actually start damaging that target.

>0:06 Reaper starts shooting. 0:14 Reaper dead. Tell me Blizzdrone, what is 14 minus 6?
But... that's the same Reaper. Are you telling me you think it took Reaper 8 seconds to kill himself? Are you complaining because you want to shoot yourself faster?