Why the hell does this game get so much praise?

So, you had ESA, which was good. But then you also had Rabi-Ribi, and Momodora, and Guacamelee, and Axiom Verge, and none of those were really good metroidlikes.

Reminder.

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ESA and Rabi-Ribi are excellent. I put them on par with Hollow Knight.
Momodora was great.
Bloodstained was great.
La-Mulana 2 was great.

And while it's not a metroidvania/metroidlike, let's just throw in Rain World there as well for good measure.

this

anime has a massive subreddit too.

Because its challenging fun and has an interesting world.

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zoomer's first metroidvania, all of the castlevania and metroid game's are better

See

what?

The term Metroodvania is fucking retarded.
More than half of all Metroidvanias are closer to being Metroidlikes or platforming adventure games because they don't feature rpg mechanics from Iga's Castlevania games.

Is this the only good Metroidvania available on Switch?

>answer the question
>hurr so what???? xDD
Happens to every overrated piece of shit on this board filled with casuals now.

La-Mulana 2 and Rain World are better than Hollow Knight, that's for sure...but they came out after Hollow Knight, ya dunce. I'm not sure why you even brought up Bloodstained.
ESA is on par with HK, but it's also ugly as fuck and pretty niche so it's obvious why it didn't get as big as HK. I actually only heard about it because of HK threads.

Basically, before HK came out we mostly had poor attempts at recapturing Metroid that really took the easier option of having linear maps without an interconnected world. The exceptions had other flaws.

>Hollow Knight is overrate-

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Step aside Bloodshills and Hollow Cucks.

True kino is coming.
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Bosses have never been what I played metroidlikes for.

Looks like ESJ but boring.

I love metroidvanias but HK is shit. The world is boring and ugly and the game is way too big for its own good.

>Boredomlands 3
Why?

> NOOOO YOU CAN'T INSULT MY INDIE GEM IT HAS ONE REALLY HARD BOSS FIGHT SO IT'S GOOD

I disagree. I loved exploring the world, whether it was grey-coloured or green-coloured, and I never had any problems with pacing.

It is not even in the top five most difficult boss fights in HK...

Because we're starved for a Metroid game and will accept any substitute at this point. JUST GIVE ME METROID 5 ALREADY

I shamelessly used the 2nd phase tactic on my first radiance kill thanks to this webmaster.

Samus Returns?

its good because four random australians got together and pulled it out their ass - what looks and feels like a fucking great game

There aren't that many good Metroidvanias. Hollow Knight is one of the very few that get it right.

>tfw still waiting on that $8 sell to use my 800 coins

>ONE
Oh my sweet summer child...

Every remotely popular game has a subreddit

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

JUST GIVE ME SILKSONG ALREADY YOU UPSIDE DOWN PRISON COLONY SPIDERFUCKERS

A semi-decent remake of the worst 2D Metroid isn't going to cut it.

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People like to overpraise difficult games, either for virtue signaling or because of stockholm syndrome

> missing the point this badly

>radiance
>hardest boss
I hope for your sake you got filtered by Cornifer

HK isn't even that difficult. I swear to god Yea Forums after 2010 was a massive mistake.

The game itself isn't, but the postgame DLC stuff gets pretty ridiculous

It's mostly easy with a few spikes here and there with certain challenges/bosses, but it can be evened out if you already know the game well enough to leave the harder stuff for later.

That you haven't played the game? No, I understood that point quite clearly

no I have played the game (didn't finish it though, got bored) I just think pointing to a hard boss and saying "look the game's good now" is a shit argument

People liked it enough to praise it, not that hard to understand

It's zoomers. This has been established before. Move along.

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True. Yea Forums is mostly casual now so they call slight challenges hard.

That kind of platforming is the laziest game design.

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>me so hardcore
>me so good
>LOLOLOLOL
>LOOOK
>LOOOOOK AT HOW MUCH TIME I WASTE IN THIS SHITTY INDIE GAME
>THE DARK SOULS-LIKE OF INDIE VIDYA LOLOLOL LOOK AT HOW I DID AHAHHAHAHAHAA
>I GOT ALL ACHIEVEMENT LOL IM SUCH A TRYHARD
>ME AN AVID ACHIEVEMENT HUNTER
>I SWEAR I GOT ALL THESE BY MY OWN HAND NEVER EVEN USED AN ACHIEVEMNT UNLOCKER
>I LITERALLY HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAT TO NO-LIFE SOME SHITTYY FAGGOTRY OF AN INDIE GAME THAT'S CONSIDERED HARDCORE JUST SO I CAN SHOW OFF MY AMAZING SKILLSET
>LOLOLOLO IM SUCH A GAMER RAWR XD
>I SWEAR I DONT WANT PRAISE HAHA SILLY BOYS
>BUT I MEAN IF YOU DO WANT TO PRAISE ME AND TELL ME HOW AMAZING I AM FOR DOING ALL THIS STUFF THAT I'M OBVIOUSLY SHOWING OFF TO YOU, THEN GO AHEAD HEHE
>I WOULDN'T MIND

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>hk shills are this buttmad
The game is highly overrated, dropped it so quick.
>melee based metroidvania
>lets not give any decent movement options for like at least an hour of game time
nah

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Because it's gay and people like gay stuff nowadays.

I didn't know HK players were this mentally ill...

Yeah, the early-game is the weakest part for sure

>I didn't like how the game seemed to have a lack of movement options in the first hour or two, so I refunded
this makes sense
>SO I'm gonna be permanently buttblasted and call people shitters for liking the game whenever it gets brought up on Yea Forums
this i do not understand

The game is highly underrated.

It's also optional

>SO I'm gonna be permanently buttblasted and call people shitters for liking the game whenever it gets brought up on Yea Forums
when did this happen?

What about it is lazy?

Have you never been in a Hollow Knight thread before?
In this thread alone you have people like who feel the need to plop their 45 minute opinion on a game which came out two years ago just because it's in the OP (even though it was asking why it was liked).
Every thread always has a flood of people saying it's a bad game, and when you ask why most say they only played for an hour before they quit because of the grey scenery and lack of movement options. But, man, why would you still seethe about a game you spent one hour on two years ago?

ah, heh, of course zoomers can't appreciate this
this game actually has soul
you know, hand drawn art+animation
lots of customization
cool combat, cool bosses, cool levels
challenging but not too hard
amazing atmosphere
idk, what game do you think is better than this, if you hate it so much?
link me one game ;)

I pirated it, dropped it, got gifted or on sale or some shit, gave it another try, and dropped it again. Overall I have like 3 or 4 hours into the game.
>OP question is why does it get praised
>get answers
>get mad because it isnt your opinion
cool shit dude

>melee based metroidvania

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No, user, think about this. user asked why it got praised, so you took the opportunity to explain why you think it's bad. But he didn't ask you why you think it's bad; he probably already thinks that. The only reason you'd post something like that is because you're genuinely still seething about a game you only spent three hours on, by your own admission.
Is it just because you're buttmad it's popular?

Dark Souls of indie games? Sure, it's hard and sometimes frustrating, but I thought that was just because I'm bad at games lel.
Its beautiful, though. I really like the aesthetic of it, and how chill it is.

>"Why does it get praised?"
>I dunno lol it fucking sucks
>"That's not very helpful"
>WOOOOOOW I gave you an answer and you didn't like it because it's not your opinion
epic

>every post I don't like is the same person
ps. I never bad, I said overrated and babbys first metroidvania. It's not bad but it's overrated and boring. What you guys are doing is looking at what you want to look for and blindly defending a game because ???
>pls dont say meen stuff about my epic indie game
whatever fags

It's a simple question, user. What drove you to answer OP with your irrelevant take? It was butthurt, wasn't it? Just like OP, you can't understand why everyone keeps praising this game, and that's why you're still posting about it years later when you didn't even play it for more than an afternoon.

Started it recently. Almost done with Vanilla.
Pretty cool looking, nice music, obscure lore, great exploration, dirt cheap. But either it has some input lag or my controller (or myself) is fucked

HK and Bloodstained are games i'm glad got funded because I like metroidvanias.
>Inb4 hurr shitstained

Actual shill
>the big post quoting everyone defend the game in an all caps shitpost isn't butthurt
>the guy who says it gets so much praise for being babys first metroidvania and is just overrated is butthurt worthless opinion
have fun with my last reply, hope it was worth the $2.00 in you bank account

>Shitstained

Thanks for proving my point.

>the big post quoting everyone defend the game in an all caps shitpost isn't butthurt
Well, who knows. It's an anti-HK shitpost, but it IS a shitpost. It could be made by someone who likes Hollow Knight for all anyone knows.
>have fun with my last reply
Seems like I caught you out. Think about your motivations before you post irresponsibly next time, user.

Can't believe Yea Forums is still assmad about some literal who indie game after two years and a half.

I've only played 3 indie shitvanias but

axiom > shitstain > hk

Because it's actually that good.
Personaly, I pirated it since the devs are faggots, but it's a good game.

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how are the devs faggots?

>putting anything above HK
Shit list

>hk
>good
exactly where that overrated game belongs, just good

Anyways, why is terraria there?

They're australian.

HK is underrated.

HK shill

HK has sexy characters that I would gladly impregnate many, many, many times over but that does not throw it into the underrated category

we expected a 6 and got an 8, people buying it for the hype expetc a 10 an get an 8, so they get the oposite reaction.

No it's not.

I wish MaZe was still around so I could ask him what the fuck his gibbering mind was thinking with Apotheon.

>seething shitstain backer
It's okay i'm sure Konami still loves you.

>super metroid and sotn have shitty bosses with 1 or 2 attacks
>hollow knight bosses are a straight improvement
>i didnt really care about the bosses anyway
you're such a fucking retard, just kys dude

That, and a lot of people buying it after the hype had built were clearly not fans of the genre. I suppose it's like the backlash to BotW. I don't like the genre at all, so I was very unimpressed with the game in comparison to the praise it got.

I've been playing Hallow Knight for the first time recently. It's a fun Metroid-vania with fair difficulty.

Yes, it is.

Why are you so arseravaged, user? You've just explained why I don't play metroidlikes for the bosses.

>hasnt finished the game
>strawmanning this hard
FUCK summerfags

you literally get the dash and walljump within the first hour

It's good, but it's not underrated.

>shitstain backer
what does Konami have to do with this?did they make a game that got your panties in a twist?

>t.didn't get past False Knight

>Blasphemous is Team17
How the fuck did I not know this by now
How the fuck do you go from Worms and Escapists to fucking Blasphemous

because its a retarded argument
its tantamount to arguing to remove all bosses from metroidvanias altogether

Looking at Rain World, I think I'd prefer that.

>it's not underrated.
It is.

>highly overrated

You're points are completely uselss if you only played 465 minutes of it. I don't think there's a single game outside of Tetris or Pong you could make an accurate opinion of in 45 minutes

wew lad

There's almost universal praise for it outside of Yea Forums
Stop using this shithole as your only source, retard

It's underrated.
Cope.

Literally seething lmao

If anti-HKfags get baited by something this obvious I can see why they're so angry all the time.

Minoria looks good but knowing rdein it will be over before you even blink

>Anything over Cave Story

Underage

It's fun to watch when a game becomes a hit on Yea Forums and people that aren't really into it can't understand why and start going absolutely bonkers. It's not liking being mad when a AAA game you hate sells well among the general population. That's just sort of accepted. Rather, it's their favorite community banding together around a game and them not being able to comprehend it. It makes them feel like they're being left out of their favorite community and they start throwing tantrums. They normally think Yea Forums is a place with somewhat better taste in games than the general population so when something is adored this much that goes against their own taste it makes them insecure as fuck. It's kind of sad really.

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Not really. HK does metroidvania far better

>Dark Souls of indie games?

I feel Salt & Sanctuary or Death's Gambit should have that title

imagine how upset you have to be to make a post like this to blindly defend a game

btw tl;dr

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Based

Cringe

>walljump
>within the first hour
Maybe if you've completed the game already and know exactly where to go. But I'd estimate most people would get it between 3 and 10 hours in depending on which areas of the map you discover (there are about 7 different regions you can unlock in any order).

You know you've got a problem when you can only express negative opinions about things. That's why 90% of posts on Yea Forums are 'this thing sucks'. People are too afraid to be positive about anything, there's this vocal majority who will shit on absolutely anything and everything simply because it's easier.

dilate

Where's the board where I'm allowed to like video games?

ok maybe hornet takes 50 mins/hour but the intended path leads towards the fungal wastes anyway
from there its about 20 or so minutes to find the mantis claw

I had to use a guide

/reddit/

>Beat it the first time without finding double jump or acid/poison immunity
Felt pretty based sequence breaking it on my own to be quite honest. I'll have to do a normal playthrough soon.

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Just to clarify, I eventually did find it when I started doing everything to 100% it (back before the DLC came out)

...

how the fuck do you even accomplish that? Only way I can think of is reaching the place where the watcher knights are via that elevator from resting grounds, but hell if I can figure out how the hell you reached uumuu without isma's tear/shade cloak

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People who dont see the appeal of this game I just automatically throw into the "you dont really understand videogames beyond handholding shooters or big titles like spiderman or god of war" category. It's like someone saying "I dont see the appeal of the Sopranos" who claims to love TV. You have objectively bad tastes but you'll just have to leave with it. Theres no hope.

Silksong when bros?

If I remember it properly, I got up to the watcher knights by down striking a breakable sign or something near the place where you would normally double jump. I got to uumuu by using the rocket launch/dash ability.

Why are people who hate hollow knight so vocal about it? It released 2.5 years ago and was made by two aussies in a basement, it's ok if you don't like it, but it's time to get over it.

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>intended path
I never felt like there was an intended path. I didn't get to the fungal wastes until I'd thoroughly explored most of the eastern part of the map, including crystal peak, resting grounds, city of tears and I think maybe even the waterways. That's what I love about the game, the fact that you can do any of this shit in any order.

because it's one of the few decent co-op series out there

When bloodstained came out a bunch of shitposters started using HK to bait them with and start up some kind of shitflinging contest between fanbases
Seems to have worked out pretty well, from the looks of it

nigga cmon
of course you can technically go to the tomb of giants or the demon ruins as soon as you walk out of the asylum in dks1 but the vast majority of players went to the parish first, as the devs intended
call it firstplayer-intended path or whatever, but you know what i mean

>"NOOOOOOO STOP PLAYING GOOD INDIES AND PLAY MY SHITTY AAA MOVIES"

What a surprise, someone that likes hollow knight like a shitty HBO show too. Its fun watching people defend this repetitive game.

I've never played DS but I honestly never got the impression there was an 'intended path' in HK beyond the beginning Dirtmouth > Crossroads > Greenpath. From there, there are 6 or 7 different areas which become open to the player to explore as they like. I'm still on my first playthrough and never felt like I had gone anywhere in a way that 'wasn't intended'.

> metroidvania tier list
> doesn't actually put any metroid or castlevania games in the list
lol
Also Axiom Verge is shit and should be lower

Are you fucking retarded? I'd play any of those games over HK. Rabi-Ribi's boss fights are so much better it's not even funny and so are Momodora's. You know something's wrong with a game when I have to ask myself why I'm playing it instead of the very first games in the genre instead because it's worse than them.

I love it.

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I was literally begged to play it for two years straight, thought it'd be great or at least okay at worst, and instead it was the single worst, most boring Metroidvania I've ever played. I would genuinely rather play Maze of Galious or Metroid than it.

Cool. Now get over it, you big baby.

But Metroid is the best Metroidvania

Cry more because someone doesn't like your favorite game.

dilate

I won't play it for the simple reason I don't like the art style. Reminds me of deviant art

that's the shittiest reason not to play this kino

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That's about as good a 2D game can look if you only have two guys working on it, unless you prefer retro pixelated games

Literal paid shill

Style not quality. Is it a mouse skeleton or what? Just looks like some random shape that's easy to draw to me

ITT: Team Cherry shills

>why yes I bought this metroidlike to fight bosses

yup my gaydar is going sicko mode right now

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I might download it for ps4. Looks fun

God I hope so
>ps4
>fun
this board isn't for you, get out, we don't want you here

You had better have good boss fights if you can't make exploration fun. Hollow Knight failed at both.

But exploration was really fun.

Unfortunately the one on the left has a wife who was the VA for Iselda.

Cringe

has a beard you mean

>have Hollow Knight on my backlog
>find out about Willoh
> get shamefully turned on
>now nervous about playing it
What else will it reveal to me? I’m scared.

>Terraria
Kind of similar concept.
Explore nearby areas to get loot that makes it easier to explore farther areas.
Content is locked by stuff from progressively harder areas and bosses.

just play it bro

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Huh? You can dash again after a nailjump??

IMAGINE

I've literally never played another Metroidvania where exploration was less fun than it was in HK. SotN was close, but that wasn't because the game was dripfeeding you anything interesting at best, it was because SotN was so braindead easy that nothing came close to being challenging.

zim zims first flash game

every zone looks the same and the combat is trash

I want her to sit on me