RIP Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Battlefleet Gothic: Armada
DoW: 2 was fine, just a different playstyle than the first
40k: Space Marine is well liked and one that I personally enjoyed.

This is just a few off the top of my head.

>they crank out shitty titles all over the place.
Games Workshop lends its IP out to different developers, sure, but this isn't bad. It allows for more creativity and a larger thriving game world.

>What fucking facts do you ant? The games are ass
I don't know, some actual fucking opinion besides LOL GAME SUCKS. Why does it suck to you? Which ones do? There are quite a few.

They had the numbers at release and after.But they've decided to go to work on console version even though pc version had a lot of bugs and needed more QOL and other updates.
On top of that they made promise for a boat load of features that they've never delivered.

They took vacation and after that we have seen only shitty weapon skins and few reskins of V1 map,for a expansion price no less.

Bonus they will introduce PVP to boost the player number.

FUCK LARDSHARK.

This
someone give us a fucking rundown, I haven't played this game for a long fucking time

It's dead, Jim

>Play as Iron Breaker Dwarf
>Protect team from the crazy damage number of the recent patch
>Shield bash EVERYTHING to take advantage of the new damage multiplier
>face tank chaos spawn grabs with gromrils curse
>Score card at the end shows that I had low kills, low damage, low monster damage, etc.
>Team comments how useless I was
If they want shields to be used, maybe don't make it so damn unsatisfying.

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Gothic armada is a niche title only enjoyed by a specific group of people
Dow 2 is shit. Playstyle was crap and it signaled the shit show dow3 would be.
Space marine was incredibly generic. Don't give it a pass for being meh at best.

Go look up Warhammer games on steam and tell me 95% of it isn't trash.
Why are you defending games workshop? This company has always been money hungry, their tabletop game is one of the most expensive neckbeard hobbies.

I hope none of you buy Vermintide 3. You just know that they're making it right now and they'll make a shit ton of promises that they'll never keep, just like everything that was in the original (now deleted) roadmap.

When Vermintide 3 comes out, it will spend its first year and a half being unfinished, broken and buggy shit. Please try to convince me otherwise. You can't. It'll be just like Vermintide 1 and 2 in its post-release cycle.

What happened here? i see alot of people shitting on this game after the release of the winds of magic dlc.

In terms of patch notes, I think the complaints are about how dodging backward got nerfed, making it harder to kite things. Having played it yesterday, game feels about as same as when I last played it, back when challenges were new.

I will say that this new expansion though is definitely not worth the full non-sale price ($20), because its only a single adventure map, and then a bunch of weird seasonal leaderboard stuff that just seems misplaced, here. I'm sure some people like the weaves, but I'd have much preferred two more maps.

please explain what's going on, l've not played this for a few months

This is such a useless post, all you've done is say "I didn't like them though", there is no critique of any depth or value here, just you dismissing games using the most generic phrases possible.

This is why I kick IB shitters on sight

>STILL NO DEDICATED SERVERS

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>Gothic armada is a niche title only enjoyed by a specific group of people
Which is why it has 2 games and is still updated and getting DLC?

>Dow 2 is shit. Playstyle was crap and it signaled the shit show dow3 would be.
Cool opinion, but it's just different from DoW1. It did not signal shit for DoW3, nobody expected it to be hot MOBA garbage until it was revealed in the trailers and shit.

>Space Marine was incredibly generic
That's not the point though, GoW and CoD are incredibly generic but yet are still the most popular. The fact is that it was fun, the game had good mechanics and a great feel stomping Orks. Sound scape was amazing and like most 40k games, did great on the detail of the world. Which is what I look for in a 40k game, a detailed game world.

>Go look up Warhammer games on steam and tell me 95% of it isn't trash.
It's literally not.

>Why are you defending games workshop? This company has always been money hungry, their tabletop game is one of the most expensive neckbeard hobbies.
So you're too poor for tabletop and hate Games Workshop for running a business. Got it.

Stop being useless.

tanking is just straight up useless in this game, more damage and breakpoints is always the answer

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They nerfed backward kiting, and made enemies more health spongey. That plus there being no new rewards for the new difficulty really set people off

The dodge mechanic has been reworked to have a smaller window of effectiveness
>Slayer and Shade babbies complaining that they can't dodge spam anymore
Staggered enemies now take bonus damage.
>Shields not fun to use but are now very useful

Imagine if instead of tanking that Chaos Spawn for like 4 minutes you could have pushed it off a cliff with all the bombs you had gotten your team from playing Ranger Veteran

Not that I like to engage in metafaggotry but there's a reason everyone hates ironbreakers

Vermintide 1 was incredibly fun, especially with friends and gave me hundreds of hours of gameplay
Vermintide 2 was incredibly fun, especially with friends and gave me hundreds of hours of gameplay

Why wouldn't I buy Vermintide 3? All I want is more voiced lines and new levels and I'll be happy.

Heavy, swingy weapons too, I guess. Like if you sweep with the 2H hammer, you make enemies you didn't damage much before take more damage for your next swing, or the attacks from the others.

In any case, game doesn't feel that different. If there's anything to complain about, its that the expansion just isn't worth buying and in it fatshark is concentrating on the wrong thing with this weave nonsense instead of just making more levels and weapons.

>x is niche
>y is shit
>z is generic
Compelling argument

Come back when DoW2: CR stops having the best campaign in the entire series and I'll reconsider your criticism of DoW2

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WHERE THE FUCK IS VERSUS

What do you mean you don't like having 20-30 minutes of progressed getting completely wiped out because the host disconnected just as you're about to enter the bridge of shadows? Stop being such an entitled gaymur!

>using shield on IB
>not using your pickaxe cave in SV and chaos warrior heads
shield users are subhuman

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They should have followed the roadmap they gave on launch then. Fuck fatshark

>No green circles
Actually useless.

Why would I waste my time making some in depth post about these games? People don't get their minds changed on v. Your taste is shit. We won't agree. That's it man.
Go back to r e d d i t where you belong

Any of the new weapons actually good?

I just picked it up on sale for $6. I played a little bit of the first one and had fun and played a little bit of the beta for 2. I remember liking the knight dude and caving in skulls with the big hammer. what am I in for

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>release unfinished game
>charge for additional content

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Flail OP, Throwing axes OP, Billhook OP.

caving in skulls with a big hammer
do NOT buy any of the DLCs unless they are on big sale, they are insultingly overpriced

Had fun with kerillian's spear+shield yesterday. Don't know how it stacks up compared to the rest of her weapons though. Felt decent enough.

I still like it. It really doesn't seem that bad to me. Hopefully after all the patches it evens out into something better.

Why bother with CW killing when you have at least two other people in your party that instakill him anyway?

looks like the 2 old packs are on sale right now and I can get them for a little over $5. still too much? probably wouldn't pick them up until further down the line anyway since I literally just bought the game, but is like $5 a fair price for them?

It's not the developers fault you can ungrateful teammates. What are you even complaining about?

Now this post I agree with.

>be fatshark
>release a buggy fucking mess and overpriced DLC that use existing assets
>refuse to fix bugs and introduce old bugs in new patches
>still can't skip all the fucking animations for any of the crafting despite how fucking slow and obnoxious it was in the first game
WHY THE FUCK IS THE INVENTORY SO BAD, I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE FOR 30 FUCKING MINUTES OPENING CRATES, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU FATSHARK

DON'T BUY FATSHARK OR SUPPORT THEM, THEY ARE TRASH, BECAUSE DESPITE ALL THIS THEY FUCKING RELEASE A NEW GAME FULL PRICE BUT IT'S LIKE ALL OTHER RELEASES AND GARBAGE AT LAUNCH BECAUSE OF BUGS

BUGS AND FATSHARK, THEY WILL NEVER SEPERATE

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not to mention
>fucks with drop rates and beneficial values for a singleplayer game so people play your shitty grindfest for the 1 weapon they want
>everyone says how they hate it
>nerf the chances even more, nerf upgrading % chance, make things cost more, etc

the only reason i can think that they would do this is so you would play more, but now i just don't fucking play

i also tell friends to not buy this game or any other games from fatshark because of these fucking issues

What was unfinished?

eh

I don't even understand the new stagger skills, just spoonfeed me on which one is the good one?

Mainstay if you have it
Assassin if your character is high crit/elite delete
Hero Power increase for range breakpoints if needed
Smiter makes it so only the first target hits get the stagger bonus, and not any cleaved targets, so could potentially be a downgrade depending on your weapon/team comp

I think one is meant more if you're hitting a lot of targets at once, the other is meant for if you're more focusing one at a time.

Basically AoE vs single target, choose based on the weapon you're using

What do you want the new enemy in Vermintide 3 to be? Greenskins or undead?

MF greenskins.

Not to be a complete shitter but did this game get a lot harder? I get chunked for half my health in veteran from a regular rat now? That wasn't there before right

Greenskins would be more hype, but wouldn't make sense for "muh lore," while Undead would work in the End Times setting since the Blood Dragons joined Khorne and Isabella was ressed by Nurgle, so there are some Chaos aligned Undead available during that time.

>Vermintide 1
shit game, buggy mess, devs more focused on DLC than fixing anything
>Vermintide 2
>people are surprised it's a shit game, buggy mess and the devs focus more on DLC
WOWWWWWW

>i was pressing buttons and still died
>WOOW
>hawhawhaw

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Contemplating playing this a bit again with a friend.

What can I expect?
I played Sienna the most.

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The flail is amazing

>buying the scam dlc
no

>REPENT
>REPENT
>REPENT

>FACE SIGMAR'S WRATH
>I AM THE COMET! I BURN THE IMPURE!

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I'd say for 5 quid they're worth it. You'll get I think 7 new maps total and new skins (if you're into cosmetics).

>sienna
why does she play like shit broes?
is she really just for utility and crowd control?

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Lizardmen

The new talents are actually interesting this time around. Combat is perfectly fine despite steam babbies crying about it. What is not so fine is how regular Gors are Maulers on cocaine, doing stupid fast attacks with miniscule animations.
Unchained is a melee machine, really fun if that's your thing. And with the new talents BW can be built around spellcasting, DoT, or something inbetween everything. No comment on Pyro, that's my least played Sienna career. Obviously ranged build, but no idea how it feels.

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I played her because she was best at dealing with situations where shit hit the fan. She was a pub-saver.
Is she still that?

>maulers
dude seriously fuck maulers, i can't even parry because they just continue their fucking animation, when am i supposed to attack?

>just tanks everything to the face
>saltzpyre zealot
>THE MORE YOU KILL ME, SURROUND ME, OR OTHERWISE, COME NEAR ME, I GROW STRONGER
>proceeds to flail everything and the boss in 10 hits

good times

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also fuck fatshark, i have like 30 crates and i don't want to open them because they take so fucking long

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>Footsoldier kruber
This fucking skill is hilariously fun, especially in tight corridors. Also what are krubers best weapons?

>Fatshark thinks 5 new weapons, one map, and a shitty grindfest gamemode that resets is worth $19.99

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I got almost 300 emp vaults, 200 emp chests and a few hundred commendations and champion vaults, whatever they were called.

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What build should I use for Victor and with what weapons?

and it looks like its going to get like that for me, but i've stopped fucking playing because of fatsharks shitty updates
>can't play with randoms or theres a chance some fucker will give me an infinite loadscreen
wow guys, it's been how many fucking updates and this still isn't fixed?

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Fatshark are among the most incompetent devs I've ever seen. I legitimately cannot believe they made Vermintide.

also
>can't load into my own fucking lobby sometimes
>can't have more than 1 audio output connected or the loading screen is infinite
>can't have my vr headset plugged in or it causes infinite loading
>can't have anything else besides my fucking keyboard mouse and headset in or it causes fucking infinite loading
what the fuck is this?

Quality swedish coding.

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why does the smokebomb do damage, i assume they're playing champion or something?

>killing your teammates and yourself right after adding the last barrel for gunpowder in V1
the best ranger trick

>there are still skills with no artwork
how can they be this lazy

It was a super early build of V2.. Apparently at one point some moron at Fatshark thought RV's Smoke Bomb should do 1 point of damage.

these people don't play their own fucking game

how am i supposed to deal with rats solo on harder difficulties now that the dodge is so fucking short? I feel like I can't keep damage off of me and it frustrates me.

>t. bad player

it's like the game wasn't made to be played solo

i wasn't actually solo, just the last man alive, how am i supposed to get there within the 30 fucking seconds of free time that the horde isn't there? or am i supposed to dodge block and look where i'm going only to die to some speed hacking rats

>DoW2 signaled the shit show of DoW3
>Game A signaled Game B being a shitshow despite them playing entirely differently
The game was a squad based strategy game for the most part. It wasn't about death blobbing like in DoW1. Just because it was a different style of game doesn't make it a bad game.

>Gothic armada is a niche title only enjoyed by a few people
Nice goalpost shift, show how it's shit or you've lost the argument.

>Space marine was incredibly generic
There is a difference between meh and shit user, nice goalpost shift again. Show how it's a shitty game or you lose your argument.

>dodges onto a prop, blocking himself
why is there so much garbage on the maps, this happens way to often and i can't memorize every little fucking bucket or rock pile

A last man standing situation should be nearly unwinnable, to get yourself into that position your team has royally screwed up. Before this it was just "oh watch this guy kite all the enemies for 5 minutes because a good player is practically invincible thanks to dodge". Fuck that.

>400h in the game
>take a long break
>hyped for beastmen
>all those combat changes
>so much negative feedback

fuck man I just wanted more of the same game god dammit fatshark.

>dodge for 5 minutes
o fuck right, i can't believe i forgot about that since i'm usually the one that survives, you're right fuck that

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The changes haven't impacted the game in my opinion. The DLC is a total fucking 3/10 letdown though, it should cost like a third of its current price if even that. All they had to do was make more of the same content, why is that so hard.

Oh and the biggest changes are in the skill tree. Bunch of cool new ones and I don't even remember what's gone but I assume those removed skills are what people are pissed about.

>implement new Level Cap
>people 30 (100,000,000,000,000) aren't retroactively made Level 35 but instead have to level up 5 times to get their old Level 30 class Talent

Literally how can one company be so stupid. How.

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Unchained was pretty good as of the beta and BW can be made functional to some degree but Pyro was dumpstered. They nerfed all her staffs so she wasn't soloing the hordes and because of how Temp health works you can't keep the pressure up if your team is retarded.

Unless you are Unchained of course.But Sienna as a purely ranged blasting machine is pretty much gone. Unchained is a tank with strong burst AOE and great melee with the Flail. BW isn't nearly as strong, easy to use or as helpful to the team. Pyro is just flat out the worst career now.

It's not, but making it basically impossible to survive without your team is a stupid choice. This kind of balance is under the assumption everyone is playing with friends when in reality the vast majority of people are randoming into Quickplay. This entire combat change feels like a way to buff Shield weapons because they couldn't figure out how to make them not fucking garbage.

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>1v1 me breh
>actually, brothers come get a piece of this fine ass(HELP ME OH, GODS, PLEASE HELP MEEE)
>throws axe at the lowest damage dealing person
>stands there for a solid 10 seconds while we kill him
truly a great boss fight

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Considering you don't actually have to buy the expansion to enjoy the new levels or enemies, I'd say it's fine

>changed literally 5 things
Yep, pack it up. Game's dead. That's it. It's unplayable

>limitless pistols on witch hunter
This picture didn't age that well

what about Mechanicus

Is this game as boring as vermintide 1?

Gameplay is better, really should have gotten into it sooner before FS did this giant shitty overhaul no one likes.

Why not a Mordhein game if they want PvP? And for fucks sake, add a new character-class that would make sense in-canon, like the Empire's Ogre mercenaries

>prepatch
>spam Xsword kruber
>kill everything
>postpatch
>spam Xsword kruber
>still kill everything
Stay mad elf babies

They reverted it back to 30 the very next day. But yea they still should have added levels retroactively.

Several fucked up things that came with the new DLC:
Temporary health is near useless (coz you generate less temp health, so near unexistant temp health is near useless).
Same with dodges. Dodges that don't dodge shit are, by definition, useless. Hope your weapon has enough stamina coz you're gonna shield a lot of attacks.
Some old glitches that were fixed actually came back! Say hello again to good old phantom hits and enemies spawning literally on your back and insta-hitting you.
Some stages' end events are batshit insane. Example: Fort Brachsenbrücke now has hordes AND specials AND stormvermins AND plague monks in high numbers assaulting you on the fort's small corridors and ledges.
FartShart were stupid enough to push new talents at level 35 instead of 30. Thank God they fixed it, but it means NO ONE in the WHOLE STUDIO actually thought about the issue beforehand.
They also inserted stagger as a core game mechanic and at the same time made it actually harder to reach stagger for light weapons. Thank God, they went back on this and all attacks should stagger properly.

The DLC itself is pretty much overpriced. Weaves are presented as endgame, but the fact that Weaves are separated from your current progression means they aren't an actual endgame.

All other changes are actually quite good. Stagger mechanics and the stagger related talents forces you to play with your team, which is a good thing.

>you have to 'reload' now
SIGMAR HAS ABANDONED US

I'd infinitely rather watch the dude dodge for 5 minutes and get SOMETHING out of the match than have it be an instant loss of 15 minutes where you get jack fucking shit other than a big middle finger.

Did they ever add in dedicated servers and if not, what was their reason?

I miss V1 brace of pistols
>down strength potion
>proceed to dump all 56 bullets into the rat ogres head in a short period of time
the good ole days

Vermintide 1 was so pure. This game used to have soul.

Community is so bad at the game. Such noobs everywhere many cases, sad.

That vacation was great
>launch a game
>go to vacation
>game is a mess but no one to fix it

The Game.

what a fuckin chad.
no one understand us.

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Dedicated servers were scheduled in April/May.

April/May 2018.

We still don't have them. Because I used the roadmap as toilet paper and it became obsolete afterwards.

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Trump is a piece of shit

How are people still playing this?
You don't get tired after playing the same map 100 times?

How so, the amount of pistols in the pic is quite accurate.

it's fun

>always come back for some casual skaven culling with v1
>now i always come back to cull the northlanders/skaven with V2

This is your answer.

Nice. Here's hoping vermintide 3 crashes and burns on launch. it probably won't

Vermintide 2 was launched basically unfinished. Vermintide 3 will probably will do as well.

I really like the 2H hammer, but I think 1h mace and halberd are pretty good. Can't speak on the newer weapons because I haven't tried them enough yet.

So if temp health is useless is it a better idea to get the perk that heals your teammates when you heal? Is merc affected by the bad temp health?

If V2 is any indication, V3 will be an utter shitshow and Fatshark will display to everyone yet again that they are legitimately unable to learn from past mistakes.

Some of my friends actually did that. Talents that generate temp health with multiple hits in one swing are heavily nerfed, so you'll have to change your gamestyle if you wanna play Kruber Merc.

Also, because of this drop in temp health usefulnedd, Saltzpyre Zealot has become a senseless class. Zealot's particularities are "low health = higher power". Removing temp health generation basically means the class is dead, since it almost entirely relies on temp health. Asking Zealot to stop using its passive power is akin to killing the very essence of this class.

>what a fuckin chad.
>no one understand us.

USELESS
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based

>Unironically having your PC datamined by the Chinese government because you wanted to punch rats
I'm cringing right now

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>rework the dodge system
>add a completely nessecary stagger mechanic that doesnt at all work with low stamina classes/weapons
>all in an effort to make shields not suck shit
>also buff 2h hammers, already the supreme kind of crowd control
they played themselves

>vermintide 1 maps
>new

there's a laundry list of content promised to release post launch, in particular dedicated servers. For months several core class talents and abilties were bugged out for anyone who wasnt the host, presumibly because it was supposed to run on dedicated servers.

DoW 1 and 2
Total Warhammer
Battlefleet Gothic
Warham Online

So not all

Fatshark arent malicious I dont think, they could have laden the game with DLC for dusts and lootboxes and shit. Theyre just painfully, astonishingly incompetent. I've been following them since War of the Roses and this happens with every fucking game they release. They tell flat faced lies and fuck with the game to the point where everything people liked is ruined before they move on to their next project.
Vermintide 1 was an odd exception in that regard, but it was still buggy as fuck

Thanks for the heads up user

They are malicious, they put in a monetization system not too far from EA's fuckery. Glad it killed their game.

just add versus mode then
Lmao

just release a map making tool for people to fuck around with

This guy has it. Pushing talents all the way to level 35 is incompetence. There is no other way to call it. Granted, they noticed the backlash and actually unfucked their fucked decision, but still. It means nobody in the whole fucking company decided to turn their brain on for more that five second and thinking about what a shit decision it was.

And please, don't tell me it's one mistake that only happened once and that everybody can make a mistake once in a while : they've been working on Vermintide games for FIVE YEARS. Anybody even remotely competent would understand what would be bad decisions for their game after five years.

>brings a shield
>holds right click the entire time
>does literally nothing to help as enemies targeting other players won't care about the manlet waving his shield around
>forces the party to play the match essentially with only three people
>gets mad when told to stop being a useless carried fuck

It's like you brainlets don't know how the game works.

Says the actual retard who thinks "tanking" is a thing in Vermintide.

I appreciated an ironbreaker taunting a chaos spawn so I could backstab with ease as elf shade for a quick kill, but that's about it, and that's the best case scenario

>single player game

Get friends loser

Thank god I don't have to quick play with you

how manyy new maps in expansion? is it worth it?

Don’t forget how satisfying the sound was in v1. Its half the reason I always rock it on saltz.

Nobody wants dedicated servers.

>474375905
Not even worthy of a (you)

I think this user means that FartShart would fuck dedicated servers up.

>35
But its at 30
Has been since the day of actual release for the expac

It was at 35 for some time and for all players. They had to see the backlash to understand what a poor decision it was.

Why not just add a damage taken stat

i do

That was during the beta.
Ever since the actual release date its been 30.

Well, I don't own the extension and I still remember clearly those level 35 talents in the live version of the base game.

leave subhuman

Give some more money to Israel.

Imagine being so unbelievably angry that they nerfed like two things that you now go around leaving negative steam reviews with you 4000 hours played and complaining on Yea Forums because the game is a little harder than before

Weird, day it came out it set them all to 30 for me, its Fat Shark man

Decent but small and shallow

She was fantastic before they patched the flamethrower bug. Could solo entire hordes without any even entering melee-range.

Why the fuck are weaves and forged weapons segmented from the rest of the game? You still have to fucking grind that shit out for the weapon you want. I don't see the point in arbitrarily locking it from the rest of the game.

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Fatshark is pants on head retarded is why. Same reason why they have absolutely no quality control and constantly re introduce bugs from old patches.

I think the idea is its like seasonal Diablo
Which is fucking retarded but hey thats what they've done

>Every Multiplayer game I've loved has turned to shit
God help us.

Its mostly you overplay until inevitably all its faults become more prevalent than what you enjoy.
Its why things like the recent shake-up are needed unless you get overly complacent