3rd person shooters fucking suck

They are fine, but imo they work best as single player/coop games like Vanquish or EDF.

This. They really arent great for pvp.

That is my favorite genre and I agree

Play all of the following
>Gears of War 1, 2
>Vanquish
>Uncharted 4, LL
>TLOU
>Max Payne 1, 2, 3
>Metal Gear Solid V
>Red Faction Guerrilla
>Bullet Witch

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3rd person was good for max payne cuz bullet time, any cod like game thats 3rd person is trash becuase its unnatural feeling and sluggish when you look around

i just picked a ps4 and am seeing that majority of the games seem to be 3rd person. 3rd person works for fiction games, non-fiction games require more realism to be engaging and 3rd person and realism arent usually a natural combo

bullet witch nigger are you serious

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max payne works because of bullet time.

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>cover shooters fucking suck
Fix'd

3rd person is great for non fiction games
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this

Bullet Witch is good actually

*blocks your path*

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>more than 3 decades worth of games
>only small handful of must play tps games
ignoring mundane shit like gow, red faction, bullet witch etc.. why this genre is so shit?

Try Gungrave, although some people will say it doesn't count as a third person shooter and consider it a 3D Run n Gun

It's a symptom of consoles games because controllers fucking suck and consoletoddlers can't hang on pc games. It's a good containment genre desu.

i think this mostly has to do with my hatred of them.. i grew up playing max payne and gta in middle school but had a computer at the time to handle it (dads computer) when i got older switched to consoles because computers cost as much as a used car now and YES the controllers make 3rd person games unplayable

they are way better than first person shooters.

Play this, Resident Evil 4, Max Payne 1&2, Winback (PS2 or N64), The Suffering 1&2, Gunvalkyrie and Red Dead Revolver.

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Get gud

>shooter that happens to be in third person
can really good
>shooter that needs to be in third person because you're pressed up against chest high wall for 80% of the "gameplay" while you waggle your thumbsticks into position because controllers are literally incapable of aiming within a reasonable amount of time
always really bad

There were already solutions for console games before cover shooting became the only option developers went with. The most common one was a light lock on, which makes sense in a genre that in theory prioritizes movement and isn't competitive. Why everyone dropped this in favor of bland cover shooting is both from laziness and because ultra serious mature gaming has no time for platforming and fun.

but cover shooters have an element of stealth.

like why world war z is third person makes no fucking sense at all

fps games are more popular for multiplayer, so that's what devs make mostly. max payne 3 is amazing and is what shooters should be

don't you mean slides in your path?

Spacial awareness.

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>max payne 3 is amazing
yes it is, and thats the way aiming should be in ALL 3rd person games

holy fuck you just ticked my nostalgia
fat chance, but is this game still active?

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Max Payne isn't a bad game but it lacks variety and the fact you can't really aim is annoying for a PC shooter.

>Resident Evil 4

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TLOU multiplayer is good singleplayer not so much

Read what I already said to you, WRPGkun.

Vanquish is the fucking tits, fuck that other shit just play vanquish

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Last good TPS i played was GunZ.

dip shit logic

1st person shooters don't even offer you a fraction of the actual awareness you do have, as you can't look all around or peek in the manner you would irl. its like looking through the eyes of a fucking robot with limited movement or some lame shit. only mental midgets think "hurrrr durrrr first person more realistic durrrrr". the irony of 3rd person is that you do have that awareness.

also theres far more potential for aesthetics and customization in 3rd person games in general. especially with good motion capture and quality character animations, 3rd person games shine in this department. 1st person games are almost all identical and un-inventive and limited in terms of gameplay/character animations.

Originals server died because publisher died and MAIET closed, private servers are still around but with 200 people tops.

There is always one guy that opens a private server for Yea Forums alone before christmas and has 800 people at the start and slowly dies to 150 by the end of December.

You mean cover shooters right? Because these indeed suck ass.
>Stick to the wall
>pew pew
>press F to stick to the other wall

>Gears of War 1, 2
The most horrible cancer shit
>Uncharted 4, LL
>TLOU
moviegames
>Red Faction Guerrilla
Horrible GTA
>Bullet Witch
DAFAQUE?

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First person is the worst perspective in gaming.

Based and slidepilled

its okay for pve

>Uncharted is a movie gam-

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that guy passed away a few years ago. Got to meet him in colorado at buffalo bill memorial mountain. Really cool guy

should add Army of two 1/40th day as long as you have a friend to play with

>playing on Easy

The first Army of Two was good. Games that you stick to the wall like Gears of War instead of just crouching behind it are irredeemable trash.

This is wrong. The reason you have limited awareness isn't the location of the camera, it's the field of view. 60 fov games are cancer, and 60 fov TPS is exactly as bad as 60 fov FPS, just with awareness of about 2 feet directly to your left and right. You have nearly 180 fov in real life, so the most realistic option is to do a fisheye ultrawide FPS. That's not practical, so a 120 FPS is a suitable alternative. 120 fov in TPS looks as bad as a fisheye, and that's why high fov FPS is better than high fov TPS.
>aesthetics
hurr expensive art assets = game quality
shut up and play

Splatoon would like a word
Also first couple gears of war were comfy and had good gunplay

all new games are movie games

>1st person shooters don't even offer you a fraction of the actual awareness
must be why mostly all zombie games that require acute awareness are first person... but go on...

That's like saying "first person shooters fucking suck" in the 2000s. It was true, but the issue was the games, not the genre.

The overabundance of shit games sure doesn't help, they're all unoriginal and just repeat the same broken mechanics over and over again. But it's not the genre.

New AAA games*

>1st person games are almost all identical and un-inventive
hmmm because all 3rd person games aren't crouch and shoot ...but go on...

fagpilled

No need, OP.

so they are actually AA

I wish 3rd person shooters had some fog of war mechanic, or blurring the view beyond cover, providing some awareness of your surroundings, but no clear vision.

This is how you fix the 3rd person shooter.

>But it's not the genre
but doesnt the genre require the broken mechanics you speak of?

I get motion sickness playing 1st person shooters. All that wobbling, shaking, and swaying. In 3rd person shooters, you at least have the character as a fixed point on the screen, to stabilize things.

It's bad for rpgs it's bad for shooters. What's it good for?

>bad for shooters
kek

I completely agree with you, TPS are the shittiest of all genres

>kek
lawl

why have sights on a gun in 3rd person, you dont fucking use them? tps is literally garbage, fps is ideal for shooters, tps are for 14 yo old try hard edgy bois

When fps was good you didn't look down the sights anyway kiddo.

normally they're not good but sometimes they're good

I would kill for a remaster of this
fuck activision

They are trash because gathering information should be inherently risky or come at a cost.
In 3PP you are free to continue camping and looking around with the only possible threat coming from behind you, which is a threat regardless of the camera being used.
They slow games down in order to make bad babbygamers feel safe. "Cover shooters" are a step beyond even this, adding another level of degeneracy to remove even more control and skill from the gameplay.

fps and TPS have a thing that even when they suck they still can be pretty fun.

>still no sign of lost planet

it is not fair bros

tank controls in a shooter, hard pass.

>fps were good when you couldnt aim down the sights
so now that you can fps are worse... whats the logic here bub?

Stylish eSper Shooting Sports League

max payne 123
get fucked

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ADS slows the game down and is a boring mechanic.

The only good cover based shooter is vanquish

aiming with a reticle the size of a quarter on your tv slows the game down cuz you cant accurately aim

Splatoon is great.

Sounds like a you problem. ADS should be for snipers only.

>he never played gears during the last golden age of gaming

so making games more realistic is a problem for you...?

Glad that you agree RE4 is bad horror and shooter.

>Always pick up the sniper weapon
>No scope all the way

Absolutely.

Vanquish and Kid Icarus exist.

whys that?

A bunch of contextual kills proves it's not a movie game?

Because I think it usually results in a more boring experience. Compare an arena shooter to Arma and I'd choose the former every time.

the fuck you're talking about? what tank controls?

>arena shooter
which are usually fps... so you do like fps!!

I don't hate them. I just often prefer tps. And I think modern FPS is super trash for the most part. I had more fun with Lost Planet 2 than any FPS in recent memory.

Actually Hunt Showdown is pretty damn good.

TPS games without cover are fucking awesome, too bad this style of the genre died out after Gears of Shit came along.

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nah u rite senpai

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They can be good if they control more like your typical FPS instead of your typical cover-based TPS.

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Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was the best 3rd person shooter I've had, that shit was cash back when I still had my origin account

Haven't played it. How are the boss fights?

Not sure if anybody remembers, but Ghost Recon Online was THEEE shit, so is s4 league

Gears of War 1-3 were the best TPS I ever played.

Top down shooters > any other perpective

no