What makes a good JRPG? These are the top 3 from this decade, as an example

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No sjw crap.

music and settings help me humor a lot of things

I don't think I would've gotten through Xenoblade 2 if it was Tron with boobs for instance

>Nier
>jrpg

>These are the top 3 from this decade
horrifyingly bad decade

They make their games thinking about their fans, instead of trying to be politically correct.

i don't know but xenoblade 2 is trash and nier is good but it isn't an rpg.

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It's far more of a JRPG than a fucking Persona, that's for sure.

>What makes a good JRPG? These are the top 3 from this decade, as an example.

Setting, Characters, Story, and Gameplay

They have cute boys in them

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I love women, but only pretty ones

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>another c-u-m-brain thread

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funny how the spam completely disappears during the night, morning and noon and is only around late afternoon and in the evening, it's almost like it's just one autistic child doing it

Imagine having women in video games in 1981+38

fpbp

fucking based.

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Cute

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this but unironically

left one isn't a JRPG
never heard of middle one nor is there really some kind of title or indicator of a JRPG
right one hasn't even releas-oh wait this is the other character that looks exactly the same from that other character in another later JRPG. Well xenoblade chronicles 2 is a boring game and it has no huge print on the market. it seems popular in the switch jrpg crowd but it's largely unheard of and uninteresting elsewhere.

>never heard of middle one nor is there really some kind of title or indicator of a JRPG

I think Middle is Dragon Quest 11

well OP could've put the name in but unfortunately OP is the type of "person" who thinks the quality of game is defined by characters in it and identifies games with those characters. he is unfortunately, if I dare say, an in-sentient cumskull.

Yeah it's Martina/Jade from DQ11

based

If you dont recognize the most shilled character from the most recent dragon quest game, I dont think you have any right to make any assertions about jrpgs

I love Lila

This. It's as much a jrpg as Metal Gear Rising.

xbc2 isnt even the best xenoblade game

>xenoblade
>not persona 5
It is tho

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Love and care, actually. Or to make it simple, soul. You just know the teams behing those 3 games had fun making them, and it just shows when you play them.

you must smell like cheese

>XBC2 is B tier, doesn't deserve to be up there with a top tier DQ game
You are silly

xenocringe 2's fanbase is approaching smash/pokemon/mlp levels of cringe.

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female protagonists that fuck black guys like these three

I wish I was black ...

>what makes a good jrpg
It being an SMT game.
With that being said, your list is inaccurate as none of them are smt games.

>2 beautiful waifus and one disgusting piece of trash, so vile that anyone who even would consider her should be erased from existence
To enrage Yea Forums, i wont say which one. Its up to you to decide whether you should live or not

I love Nier but that's bullshit, it's an action game with stats, not even an ARPG, and Xeno2 is inferior to XenoX.
DQ11's a damn good RPG, though.

OP said JRPG though

>Several people suggesting Persona 5 as one of the best RPGs of the decade when it's arguably worse than 4.
Christ.
Even ignoring Scarlet Grace and Etrian Odyssey 3, we've had games like Bravely Default, SMT4, Radiant Historia, etc. Is P5 really that beloved?

For some reason bloggers, youtubers and reddit REALLY liked it. Probably because of the menu graphics.

Literally nobody who actually plays video games thinks it's worse than 4.

Persona always resonates the most with the era of the time, P4 was set at the start of the information era so if you played it at that time you probably really enjoyed it. The increasing urbanisation, and information through television, small stores disappearing because of hypermarkets. Where the old world is still present but the modern is already taking over. Now that atmosphere is mostly forgotten, everything is already urbanised, the old myths are gone, who watches TV anymore when you have smartphones.
P5 is in this modern information era of modern life so obviously it resonates more with people now than P4 does.

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>Game's half VN, but the character writing for optional characters is significantly worse, almost every single one that isn't a party member or weird (tied to story progress, tied to side quest progress) is the exact same story with a different flavor of waifu attached.
>Introduces designed dungeons, but only two are actually an improvement over the random generation dungeons while lacking the benefits of random generation, also mandatory random-gen grind tower as well.
>Added elements just make the game even more "exploit the weak point over and over."
>Confidant bonuses simultaneously make combat significantly easier and remove choice: prior S Links are basically optional and chosen based on what story you want to read, now there's a meta where not gunning for Kawakami is gimping your run.
>Recycles the skeleton of P4's plot beat for beat despite being a completely different kind of story and not benefitting from this.
>Recycles character archetypes to an alarming degree.
>Really awful, brain dead "puzzles."
It's a step down in all but visual presentation.

I haven't even played it yet but I'll say Scarlet Graces because SaGa is sick. Other than that I can't think of any good JRPG from the last decade honestly. Maybe some Megaten games.

>Fire Emblem poster projects retarded pseudo-analytical garbage.
P4 wasn't even very good and ended up screwing itself by taking a lot from P3 (a very flawed but at least unique game) that it didn't need to while changing elements in such a way that it actually hurt the overall experience. I don't hold 4 on a pedestal, I'm saying 5 is designed like trash.

Better than your "hurrr I don't like game its bad" analysis dicksucker.

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It's because it isn't complete trash, is trendy, jerks the player off, and the flaws require you to think a bit longer than the instant needed for feel good or feel bad.

>YOUR ARGUMENT IS YOU JUST DON'T LIKE IT REEEEE
If you actually care about discussing P5's design I'd be happy to, but you know damn well that you've already decided I'm wrong because you enjoyed it. You don't want to talk about how systems originally implemented because of P3's story, tone and ideas on party management don't translate well to P5, or how the writing has shifted to direct gratification over all else, or how adding nuke, psy and gun when Persona already has a problem with balancing its abilities to be useful for things besides whack a mole isn't smart.

If I'm wrong just go ahead, I'd love to talk about it, I just don't want to humor this "it's the times" garbage.

I noticed that you're very good at talking in circles already
>bad thing is bad because I don't like it and it's bad therefore it's bad and I don't like it
Is pretty much all your posts boil down to.
It's a turn based rpg, literally no one, not a single soul cares about the "combat", you do the tutorial, repeat it for 50 hours and that's it. The important thing is the story and the characters and my hypothesis makes perfect sense as to why P5 is popular today and P4 isn't.

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>Would you like to talk about one of these things I think is bad? I would love to talk about these things.
>Look you said it's bad because bad look how stupid you are
Bitch can you read? I am putting out my feelings, not explaining my logic. If you wanna discuss we can, but I'm not wasting the time to explain myself if you just want to shitpost at me.

>The important thing is the story and the characters
You wanna talk about this part? It's a good starting point. We could talk about the structure of the narrative or the way S Links are handled. I would be happy to talk about why I feel confidants have weaker writing as a whole, or 5's tendency to recycle templates, or maybe something more specific. If you wanna throw out a part you enjoy about it and why or point to something I said and tell me why I'm wrong that works too, whatever gets the ball rolling.

I'm just making sure you're understanding that I have yet to make an argument and am eager to discuss video games on Yea Forums, but if this is just shitposting and anime reaction images in an attempt to farm (You)s, I'm afraid no more will be following.

eric is approaching ac/barney fag levels of autism.

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Your logic is "it's bad because I don't like it" so who cares, go in if you want it's not gonna make a difference.
I already talked about it, and you called it "pseudo-analytical garbage" so you can suck my dick.

And here's another anime image because I see that it triggers you.

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Trash "critique," P5 is great and the sales don't lie. Keep seething, P3fag.

Yet, Persona 5 is fucking garbage. Fallout 4 is a better JRPG than Persona 5.

It's a million times worse than 4. Holy fuck you have to be a brain dead nigger to disagree

Nier Automata is weird.
Its combat system is more nuanced than most ARPGs.
But the core combat is still dumbed down by stats and an arbitrary leveling system.

>Its combat system is more nuanced than most ARPGs.

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Castlevania SotN has a leveling system and stats too but that doesn't make it a JRPG

>a Platinum game has poorly thought out defensive mechanics
Nothing is new.
But anyway, this is a single basic low leveled grunt.

The bar for ARPGs is still extremely low.

SotN doesn't have towns and hubs with lots of NPCs, side quests, overworld or nearly as much customization as Automata.

P5 was complete shit

And you need an every single bit of that agility not to get fucked by some bullet hells.

based

>People arguing about Nier, Xeno and Persona.
>All agree 11 is awesome.
Based Dragon Quest.

I've seen a lot of hate towards 11 from personafags.

I personally think that DQ11 is the best Square Enix game made in this console generation.

I bet those are falseflaggers

Haven't played DQ yet, waiting for the Switch version.
Automata is decent enough, but much weaker than other Taro games.
P5 is trash.

>Automata is decent enough, but much weaker than other Taro games.
From technical and gameplay standpoint it's far, far better than any of his previous games.
Narrative-wise it's also one of his strongest games, with clear and well-developed themes led to their ultimate conclusion without enormous fuckups of his previous games like the lack of true ending inside the game itself like it was with first Nier.

>From technical and gameplay standpoint it's far, far better than any of his previous games.

to be fair, Platinum did the gameplay of Automata

Of course, Cavia were literally inept in gameplay department and i'm surprised they managed to exist for over 10 years.

People tend to not like it as much because Nier was more explicit about its ideas.

Exposed

Good battle system and good gameplay in general. "Story" is a humongous meme. Octopath and Epic Battle Fantasy 5 are the best JRPGs this decade.

There's not a lot of competition, almost all their good games are farmed out to other devs.

top cringe

Automata was soulless garbage that only ironic weebs like.

>Octopath
>a game with random fucking encounters
>good gameplay in general

>Epic Battle Fantasy 5
Stopped reading here, that shit was garbage on Newgrounds and it's still garbage now.

See, this is the problem with people shitposting about Automata, you motherfuckers always operate on buzzwords like the mindless drones you are.

i've always liked the music, with the setting being close second
but somehow the late 90's jrpgs are the best

Just get the scholar skill that reduces encounter rate

You can also just fast travel town to town as you please

cringe

>speaking truth
>"mindless" buzzwords"
Ironic weeb detected.

Your post lacks a pepe or wojak

>Flash game with sub-FF balance focused on just fights.
>"Please pay me!"
No.

>sub-FF balance

So you didn't play the game, got it.

I agree, but it's in a weird spot where it's not quite a pure action game but doesn't have enough RPG elements to be an ARPG.
I hate when people call it a JRPG though because it's nothing like contemporary JRPGs. It is a freak game that is off in its own unique gameplay niche somewhere. It's like calling Dark Souls a JRPG. Yeah, it is technically, but would you really classify it as that?

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A good story, would be nice...which is pretty rare unfortunately. Most of the time it's anime-tier writing (and yeah, anime tier writing isn't good).
Over the top, magics, gods, completely retarded plot twists, characters that most of time don't exactly scream 'intelligent.
A JRPG witch an actual good story would be really awesome: videogames in general, and the JRPG format in theory at least, is a really good way of telling a good story...
But it never happens... The only time I was at least a bit impressed with the story was Suikoden 1 & 2.
(Stuff like FF, DQ, Persona... no...)

>ANYONE WHO DISAGREES DIDN'T PLAY, DIFFERING OPINIONS DO NOT EXIST, THE FLASH GAME FROM MY CHILDHOOD IS AMAZING
It's pretty bad, user. Sorry that shatters your worldview and you need to create excuses to cope with the fact that an anonymous poster thinks you're wrong. But hey, maybe you'll sucker someone else into paying for it.

What makes 9S attractive? Is it just his androgyny? I feel like there's something about him that makes people drawn to him but I don't know what it is. He's not exactly girly, he's just kinda shrimpy.

>...
Fuck off

>spout factually wrong bullshit
>"i-it's just my opinion!!"

Cope.

There's not a lot to dislike about DQ11. It's an extremely well made game with 10/10 presentation, engaging gameplay and stellar writing. The only people who claim to dislike it are people who stubbornly insist that turn based gameplay is antiquated.

>retard zoomer detected

Why do ironic weebs get so upset when you insult their dogshit game?

Why do you get so upset at people laughing at your buzzword spouting ass you start shitting them out even harder?

We're just pointing out how braindead your arguments for "dogshit" are. All you faggots do is REEEE about anime on a fucking website based on animefags. I think it's insane people come to Yea Forums now to bitch about people liking anime/jrpg stuff, it'd be like going to a gym, refusing to work out, and just sit around making fun of everyone who's there exercising.

Yeah

>"My opinions are facts!"
Keep jerking off to your childhood Flash favorite, user. If it makes you feel better, that's good enough. Just don't sucker people into wanting their money.

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>ywn fight 9s and win over 2b and a2's hearts

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>says mindless adjectives and buzzwords like "clear and well-developed themes" when there aren't any
>gets btfo when proven wrong
>REEEEEEE stop insulting my ironic weeb sim!!!!
Keep diging that hole further. You cancerous fucks killed DoD

This literally isn't subjective but ok retard

He can keep those hoes, 21O is the girl for me.

There are retards that believe "JRPG" isn't a genre but merely a name for RPGs made in Japan. It's insane.

21O is as much drawn to 9S as 2B.

What?

Jrpg isn't a genre and so isn't wrpg. The only retard here is you.

You've never even touched DoD you underage piece of shit.

I don't specifically disagree with that notion, but I do feel that Nier is really pushing the boundaries of the term.
I brought up Dark Souls because while it is a JRPG, it has absolutely nothing in common with its contemporaries, and people tend to refer to the games as "Soulsborne" or "Soulslike" before "RPG."

how are you proving anyone wrong? LOL Please just fuck of zoomer, You suck at shitposting.

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>button mashing is nuanced
fuck off platinumfag
you probably think that DMC has a deep combat system too

Nice try ironic weeb. There's a reason no one likes you zoomers for killing a once good series

DQXI is the perfect JRPG. Everything else is an attempt to see how far they can bend DQ's design without breaking it

>thinks "ironic weeb" is bothering anyone here.

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If the battle and progression system lets me break the game, then I enjoy it. Putting Tidus into Aaron's sphere in FFX was fucking insane. Haste followed by Quick Hit 4-5 times for 9999 damage each time.

>stellar writing
It's the slowest paced entry since 7 and pulls its punches all the way until the end of Act 1. I love it, but it has problems.

>DQIII
Fixed.

It clearly is since you keep responding

No Dark Souls or Sekiro?
Shit list

i'm bored. Whatever helps your projection though pal.

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Obessed

Look at this projection. Holy shit LOL. Imagine being this mad over a video game.

I can accept that

Obsessed

>There's not a lot to dislike about DQ11
I have a lot to dislike, such as the fact that it's not called Chrono Break.
If they just changed a few names and designs, it would have sold gangbusters internationally and be hailed as the greatest RPG of all time. People would weep at the true ending.