Smash Fighters Pass DLC

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Sorry lad, Joker took up the space available for guns. And I mean he even has dante's bullet rain attack. Joker has pretty much ruined dante's chances of being in smash.

>Smash
>Fighting game

Threadly reminder
>Reimu had a crossover appearance with Kirby in another Bandai Namco title
youtube.com/watch?v=MY6gkmxGF2k&t=0m5s
>Bandai Namco has experience with the Touhou series
>Bandai Namco also made remixes of Touhou music
youtube.com/watch?v=0z9ygWEwK8Y
>Bandai Namco also has licenses to Touhou fan music
youtube.com/watch?v=A3Ppj87ma1Q
>Touhou is a pop culture phenomenon in Japan with two major conventions every year
>Sega and Nintendo sold arrange CDs at Reitaisai
shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19472.msg1252539.html#msg1252539
>ZUN had officially given Nintendo a license, allowing Band Brothers players to upload music based on all Team Shanghai Alice albums
>3 Touhou fangames and an official spin-off is coming to Switch fairly soon
>Luna Nights possibly has an exclusive Cirno boss for the Nintendo Switch port
twitter.com/UNTIESWORLD/status/1147796417823383552
gematsu.com/2019/07/touhou-luna-nights-coming-to-switch-in-2019
gematsu.com/2019/05/touhou-hyoibana-antinomy-of-common-flowers-coming-to-switch
>Reimu's amiibo will sell like hotcakes
>Leak mentions Rare Replay which was confirmed by Sabi, a very credible insider to be true, mentions DQ ports a month before DQ11's port got its release date announced and also mentions Touhou ports which are coming fairly soon
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/446252992/
>5ch AoCF Switch leaker mentions Reimu, Yukari, Sanae and Kanako in Smash
logsoku.com/r/2ch.sc/famicom/1564768609/

Reimu.

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>Joker took up the space available for guns.
Uh-oh!

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I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE.

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>Nintendo picks Suda as one if the first devs to see switch hardware
>Nintendo wants him to revive Travis to help appeal to western audiences
>Nintendo gives Suda center stage at the switch reveal ala Bayo 2
>Nintendo distributes and advertises TSA in NA and EU
>Nintendo is picking the dlc
>Nintendo put NMHIII in their E3 direct next to RE and Contra
I think he has a really solid chance or at least made it on the shortlist but was passed over for more popular characters or whatever Sakurai wanted.
>the livestream deconfirmation
No different than Banjo with Grant

>Nintendo character
lol

Please Daddy Sakurai. Let him be in and I will never ask for anything ever again.

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Can't wait for the next season of Roster Fagging bros

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This is infinitely better than when everyone thought the DLC was going to be Sylux/Poochy/Adeleine/etc.

No it's not.

God, I hate it. Dragonborn makes sense from a gameplay perspective, all the possible shouts make a moveset pretty easy to come up with, but Dovahkiin has no character at all. He's like Steve, a complete blank slate. Skyrim is the worst game in its series from a lot of angles, it's 8 years old and I hope that if one of the slots is Bethesda, they went with something a little more historically important.

Following that logic, Banjo took the space for 90s 3d platformer mascots who only wear pants.

You know what I mean

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shut the fuck up and stop making us look bad faggot.

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I fucking wish user, but at this point I've all but given up hope.

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>It seems today, that all you see, are third-party characters to shill for DLC
>But where are those good old-fashioned rules, on which we used to relyyy?
>Lucky theres a Roster Fag.
>Lucky theres a fag who, only wakes up to
>enter the thread so he can-
>whine and nag!

>He's a Roster Faaaaag

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>5ch AoCF Switch leaker mentions Reimu, Yukari, Sanae and Kanako in Smash
I actually checked it
They had different IDs
logsoku.com/r/2ch.sc/poverty/1556340765/58
If there's something I don't know about 5ch, please let me know

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Reimu makes perfect sense if they're aiming for weebs and otaku who would buy a Switch, Smash Bros and the DLC just for the fact that there's Touhou content in Smash.
Nintendo wants all the money, after all.

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Smash bros you need to get in here NOW

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She will be in

Stay mad otisfag

That maybe true, but than again, anything goes in smash.

I wouldn't throw in the towel quite yet anons. I'd say he has quite a chance considering he's the type of character Sakurai would pick + he's friends with Shu irl + Nintendo would probably choose such a Nintendo supportive character.
He's pretty much in direct competitive mode with Dante, Leon, or Monster Hunter though.

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Apparently there are two ID's.
Thread poster ID to keep track of what the poster posted on that thread, and another ID that identifies the poster.
The first part of the poster ID does match, the "ﾄﾞｺｸﾞﾛ MM" part.

I can dream

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yeah that's why I've given up hope though user despite his history and connection to nintendo and capcom being likely to get a dlc character he has to compete with Dante, Leon or Jill, and Monster Hunter all of which I believe are more likely. I just really hope that sakurai goes against the grain and throws out the capcom curveball that would be Nick because I want him in smash more than anyone else.

>The first part of the poster ID does match, the
>"ﾄﾞｺｸﾞﾛ MM" part.
I don't see it
Is a 5ch only thing that Logsoku doesn't see?
5ch is blocked in Burgerland so I resorted to Logsoku

sorta unrelated and may be considered a shill, but is my gmod vid based or cringe

youtube.com/watch?v=bUUPmFbUhWw&t=
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Here are the screenshots of the original posts.
It's a 5ch thing.

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interesting, can you compare them to other posts to prove that this ID is unique that meaning they are the same person?
apologies for being a bother but I demand proof

Why the fuck is there a sudden rivalry between Crash and Doomguy? They don't even cover the same niche.

I think it has to do with people assuming we can only have one more western rep in the game given Sakurai being worried about the language barrier regarding Banjo, chances are he wouldn't risk 3/5 of the DLC going through a process he has no familiarity with

people are just obsessed with the us vs them mentality, you're either with us or you're against us and rooting for another character and hate your character
it was first Steve and Banjo, then became Leon vs Phoenix, now Crash vs Doomguy. Who will be next? Think of two random characters and that'll be it.

Smash bros you need to get in here NOW

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there was also some beef between possible Bamco characters as well

Remember that image he posted?
Its gone now
Even the imgur link is dead

Still got it here.

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I feel like the editing for some of the clips is a bit sloppy and some parts drag on for too long but it's fine aside from that
Even if it was a pretty run-of-the-mill video and I didn't really find much in it funny it's still better than most of the shit posted in these god fucking awful Smashfaggotry threads

This is the post where he said it's Seirensen.

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Based, I also want my boy in

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The worst of times are when lawyers have to force their biggest smiles.

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I meant show a post that isn't his to prove that the poster ID is unique to him

What was it anyways?
I used Google translate and from what I can make out, he stopped because he didn't want to be arrested or something

hes in

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at least Leon and Phoenix are from the same company. This new shit is fucking retarded

What stage would you want user? I figured Uraya made sense since it has a pretty iconic look and shows up early on so as to avoid spoilers.

I suppose but I honestly feel like it was 90% false flagging for someone who just wanted to pick a side

That should be simple enough.
Also about the image, I'm just quoting someone else.
>I don't think the pic is related to smash.
>He uploaded it to show how loose things are there. This image is leaked from someone working with Touhou officials.

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thanks mate
>Touhou officials
>officials
Isn't it just ZUN?

Other than ZUN, there's Tasofro for the fighting games and some publishers he works with for the publication of fangames on consoles so he can get his fair share from his IP, namely PLAYISM and UNTIES.

That would be cool or maybe something like traveling across all the titans

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ZUN is the core developer, but he has some staff help out with licensing, etc.

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what could the image be for?

Ideally, a storyboard of her Smash animations.
Realistically, storyboard for another Tasofro game or unrelated fangame.

Is it weird to be hyped for the animated reveal trailer? All the Ultimate ones have been at least 8/10's so far.

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Touhou is also pretty damn popular in China and guess where Nintendo's releasing the Switch soon?

Fan games go through that?

>muh china
You pulled this shit to argue for mai too
Fuck off

Never thought Mai was in the running. if SNK's getting a rep it's fucking Terry.

If Nintendo wanted to appeal to chinks they'd put in Teemo from League of Legends or some other MOBA shit

Nope, Terry's already in Fighting EX Layer. If any SNK rep were in Smash, it would be Kyo.

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Forget your SNK rep, we'll get a Koei Tecmo rep

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>SFM porn girl along with Doomboy
Yikes!

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>Kasumi

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Fuck yeah we'll get Kasumi!

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CERO!

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Still no idea who Cero is but keep pushing your literall who

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Entertainment_Rating_Organization

can't wait

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>5ch AoCF Switch leaker mentions Reimu, Yukari, Sanae and Kanako in Smash
Look, I'm a massive Reimufag but this idiot shot himself in the foot since
1)Kanako would be nothing like Yukari
2)It's incredibly unlikely that Sanae would get support from Kanako without Suwako
Unless we're talking about simple color schemes and not alternate skins, it's just not happening

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Dunno what post was but nigga...
>base geet lvl 3 counter btfo of FT every time

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It was the discord shill again.

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Based Travisbros.

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King boo would be pretty epic as a floaty heavy weight guy. Make his up b same as Rob

God help me, I unironically want another FE rep. Doomguy first though

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Duly noted

who the fuck are Joker, Hero, and Reimu? Fucking weeb characters. Where the fuck are Crash and Spyro?

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I can't wait to see this whole board get BTFO when Sora gets announced

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>thinking another cereal mascot will be added into smash.

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Better than these weeb characters that no one who's ever had a job has ever heard about

Post them.

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Based

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if you think Geno is the most likely you are a genuine retard.

Incredibly likely - Chris/Jill, Chosen Undead
Good chance - Dante, Hayabusa
Moderate chance - Doom Slayer, Leon, Crash, Goemon, Terry, Alex Kidd, Bond, Reiko Nagase
Poor chance - Indie shit, zoomer shit
No way - Anime except Lum

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I think he is the 3rd most likely. Isn't 1 supposed to be the most while 3 is least?

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I haven’t followed these threads in awhile. Are there new rumors?

There's been a few rumors going around about alex being in the fighter's pass, don't know how legitimate it is though.
The only concrete rumor I've heard of is of a pic of a black dude in casual clothes making it in as a slot. Don't know the character though.

>Alex
Oh no no no no

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why do you need this thread multiple times a day every single day

why is he naked?

>reimu
>another swordfighter
cringe and bluepilled picks desu senpai

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same reason your mom sucks BBC every day every single day

I unironically would want King Boo, it's a shame that this season pass seems to be gearing for third party characters.

Please tell me we have a ghost type character that fits into the third party criteria AND it's popular.

Are they meant to have the exact same Up B?

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He's in

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>complaining about cereal mascots
Nintendo’s mascot is a literal cereal mascot. I still think Doom guy would be great.

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>codename pony hair
>Codename Jane
>Two leakers reporting a female fighting game character.
>Koei Tecmo making Hyrule Warriors, Fe Warriors, three houses, mua3
She's fucking in.

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She's a strange choice when you consider that Ryu Hayabusa would have a better connection to Nintendo with the classic Ninja Gaiden games, but considering Koei Tecmo basically said in an interview that they want to put Kasumi in over him sort of adds to her chances.
I'm indifferent to her, as long as my boy Doomguy gets in I don't give a fuck if Steve himself is the fifth fighter I'll be happy.

>She's a strange choice
I don't see why, since she's the mascot of KT

It's no different that Konami putting Snake in before the Belmonts

True enough. I only think it's strange because Ryu is more 'Nintendo' than Kasumi, but they may want her in because she's more relevant than him in their eyes. I dunno, man.

Dead or Alive 6 will be getting a switch port at the end of the year after the DLC for DoA6 is fully released. It'll be a definitive edition and she'll be a Koei Tecmo shill character. She's smash 5's Bayonetta.

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I am confident that Kasumi will be character #5 in the Smash DLC. Just as Smash 4's DLC ended on a low note, so will Smash Ultimate. An overtly sexualized boring literal who female shill character would be pare for the course for Nintendo.

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Funny. I have the same feeling that she will be pushed in as the #4 character, so they can end with a bang.

Why are people obsessed with characters that might be DLC on a Children's party game?

>this thread

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Reimu more like reimwho?

Convince me why Reimu wouldn't be a great addition to the game.

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Then kys

Doomguy, Leon or Jill, and Porky Minch as a bonus fighter.

It 100% was, most Leon/Phoenix fans are completely fine with either option because both are fun characters.

Touhou is too good for Smash.

Reimu doesn't make much sense to me as a pick. None of the mainline games are on Nintendo consoles nor is there evidence they will be, Touhou is relatively unknown outside of Japan, and Nintendo hasn't seemed interested in pushing the Touhou games they DO have on their systems. I know some people say that they might be negotiating with ZUN to bring more games to the system, but you can make that same argument for almost anyone. I just personally don't find it likely

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I want another FE character.

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Touhou has a big character-driven audience that hasn't had much of a reason to buy a Switch or Smash yet. It's the perfect candidate for a DLC character.

But like, you could make that same argument with League of Legends too is my point here. There's no evidence that Nintendo has tried to work with ZUN. Even Banjo has Nintendo and Microsoft actively working together before the announcement, we heard of xbox live on Switch long before Banjo

Yeah, a perfect DLC candidate for that specific niche of people who likely will not shell out ~$360 for a character from mostly free games. Nintendo is smart enough to not waste dev time on a character that most of its audience won’t recognize or even know about.

you are Fucking Gay

It'd certainly catch everyone off guard since everyone has wrote him off due to the chances of a 2nd SE rep being unlikely (yeah I know he's technically owned by Disney but he's still associated with SE)
But I like me some surprises so I'm down for having another shitstorm

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MY NIGGA

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There's no room left, Maybe next time Lloydfags, Oh, sorry you're another character. Still, No room

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I really want Sora in the game. I do acknowledge that Hero made him unlikely, but I still have my fingers crossed

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I want the slayer and the slasher.

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BIG FAT REMINDER IF REIMU GETS IN.

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Jill is more likely than you, Leon

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Lmao.

Sora's my dream pick, but if Leon gets in I'd be equally happy
Here's hoping Leonbro

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>No way fag
>Turns and runs away
Kinda funny, admittedly

This. Hell even stuff like LoL, Dota and Overwatch would be more plausible since it's more known over the world instead of one very closed fanbase in the east. (Not that I want any of those games to be represented)

Add to it that Touhou is a fangame. It's doesn't even make tv-advertising or web-advertising. Most people wouldn't even recognize any of the characters since they haven't been in iany type of contact with them. Even though the fanbase is huge, it's a completely closed niche.

>Touhou is a fangame
No, it's an indie game series.
>It's doesn't even make tv-advertising or web-advertising
Quite a few Touhou fangames got advertised for the Switch, one being on Nintendo's official English Youtube channel, and an official game is coming to the Switch fairly soon.
>Most people wouldn't even recognize any of the characters
Spend some time on the internet and you would've come in contact with several touhou related memes by now.
Also, Joker and Hero.
>Even though the fanbase is huge, it's a completely closed niche
Touhou can easily be well received by weebs and otaku. Touhou is not that closed off of a fanbase.
Also, Joker and Hero.

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also, fuck roster wars and that "spirits deconfirm" meme

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>people who likely will not shell out ~$360 for a character from mostly free games
Based on what? The games are what they are because of their respective distribution platform. If the fanbase was known for being particularly stingy, companies like Good Smile Company wouldn't bother to obtain 2hu licenses, let alone release figures of the franchise all the time.

>It's doesn't even make tv-advertising or web-advertising
Cannonball and Lost Word have actual TV commercials, off the top of my head. All the games on Switch also have trailers.

>he's a shantaefag, a ashleyfag AND A LLOYDFAG

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>fefag can't read

what the actual shit, can't you read or somehting? these are my least wanted, you mongoloid

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With the "worldwide appeal" argument it can go both ways. Dragon Quest was never as huge in the west as it is in Japan, but if places like Yea Forums are any evidence, smash is a damn good vehicle for advertisement, so even people who aren't already fans can still feel inclined into trying them out and become new fans, pushing sales on both new games for the system and the DLC. Something like this could easily happen with 2hu in the west. People meme about the difficulty but they are actually pretty easy to get into

One argument against 2hu as a possible pick though is the lack of a push on Nintendo's end. Shilling AoCF and the fangames would be a good start, but they don't seen to be doing so at the moment.

Nigga get yo eyes checked

Too be fair least wanted is still a forming of wanting. It should read unwanted.

>Doomfags want a lame censored version of their character that'll fit into an E10+ rating
>Reimufags want smashbaby secondaries to shit up their fanbase into the ground
Wow characterfags are getting masochistic this time around

gameplay wise is there anything interesting she offers to the table?

i thought the least wanted combined with the assist trophy pic meant he didn't want them stuck as a spirit/assist, my b

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No

The western fanbase is already shit because people get into the series through porn and 10 year old IOSYS videos, quickly becoming secondaries who don't give a shit about the games. Smash would unironically be a better entry level because it would at least stick to canon and give a better idea of what the franchise is all about.

As the one singer once said:
Everybody makes mistakes
Everybody has those days.

Japanese players are not stingy like americans that are used to pirating games. If they enjoy something, no matter if it comes from a free or paid game or series, they'll spend mad money on the merch.

What, you think the Touhou fanbase isn't already filled with secondaries? At least some of the people who get into it via Smash might actually play the games.

I'm putting my money on Doom Slayer and either Leon or Ryu Hayabusa as the last reps.

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FUCK HAYABUSA
FUCK TEKKEN
FUCK REIMU
FUCK SHANTAE
FUCK DOOMGUY
FUCK CRASH BANDICUNT
FUCK NAMCO

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>generic fighting lady
yawn

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>Doomguy
>Least wanted

Zoomer confirmed

Reject them, refuse them, deny them, it doesn't matter... They arrive all the same. They are inevitable... Sakurai and Nintendo decided on these characters and cannot be undone.

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>I want it so its GOING TO HAPPEN

A very large chunk of the doomfags nowadays are 2016 zoomers, and "rip and tear" "man too angry to die" meme shitters.
He has a legacy, but he absolutely is a zoomer pick.

How did Kasumi suddenly become relevant to Smash rosterfaggotry? there was a decent period where the only character from Tecmo that was being name dropped was Hayabusa. Now Kasumi comes out of nowhere, is it quotafagging from expecting a female character?

Who knows what insane theories people use to justify faggotry.

Because some unproven leaker said the next DLC is gonna be a female fighting game character.
So of course it must be true.

>maifag 2.0

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Just as the Kronorium predicted...

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Do not leech of Leon, fag

I bet you're the guy who was always bringing up Jontron in Banjo threads before E3.

Desire plays no factor in these characters inclusion.

>Not OG Doc
Now that's just silly. It'll obviously be Nazi Dr. Richtofen, and then BJ to balance it out.

>This is what rosterfags actually believe

Oh really?

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Nope, i just tells it how i sees it.

Regardless if I want them or do not want them, they are the chosen dlc. Our feelings regarding them cannot change fate. It is, so it shall be.

Me after I shoot up heroin and the stars reveal to me Rayman is the next in the fighter pass.

There is no second fighters pass.
There is however a bonus character in the same vein as Piranha plant.
It's metal Mario with the Meta Crystal stage.

Solaire's in Smash, the final character though is something you stupid fucks haven't seen coming.

If only they'd do the right thing and remove fucking Gatornigger from the game.

Nostaliga faggots should KYS asap. No one gives two shits or knows about some faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced.

Literally should have never got in smash. Bayonetta got in because she was relevant and a recent game release, not some literal who green shit.

> inb4 muh rob muh pacman muh duck hunt muh banjo

Icon characters of different eras or mascot characters. No one gives two shits or knows about literal who the gator.

Is what I say after I smoke that sweet peyote and the spirits personally hand me the smash design documents.

This is a false statement made by a man with a penis under 6 inches. Women can barely feel him, so why should we take anything he says with merit? We shouldn't.

Fucking lol.

Smash bros you need to get in here NOW

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Fuck off papagenos stop advertising your autistic smash cult.

Based boomer

You'll see, bye niggers!

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Small penis confirmed based on response.
Holy shit imagine getting btfo by one user's (You).
Kek

I used to be the biggest advocate for Ex-Aid getting in, but his time has passed.

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Nobody knows or cares about her. If we're getting a Tecmo rep it'll be fucking RYU.

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They should put in Kefka from Final Fantasy 6

user the leaks say Hayabusa is in Kasumi's final Smash...

You're full of fucking shit.

Give me one good reason why I should believe this supposed "leaker"

tecmo didn't even talk with nintendo about smash you moron

>nobody talking about the actual next fighter to be revealed
Now I'm mad! Yea Forums!

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Wow, fans have made Touhou memes? That surely means that the core audience of Smash including kids, casual players, and worldwide players have heard of this nearly Japanese exclusive character! At least DQ and Persona have mainstream relevance outside of Japan.

- Leon Kennedy & Jill Valentine are alts of each other with 4 skins each.
- Raccoon City stage.
- Kasumi playable, Hayabusa appears in her final Smash.
- Bonus gag character, Metal Mario with his N64 appearance. Fighting polygon team final Smash. Meta Crystal stage.

Wrong character

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Because he spoke to user through the mirror? Could a fake leaker communicate using user's own reflection?

SOURCE OR FUCK THE FUCK OFF

user, can’t you realize that this “leak” was made by the same guy who keeps spamming this to force their picks into discussion?

Fuck. I just now noticed that. I’ll fix it.

>MCU reference!

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Best list by far

Now this just makes me wanna root more for Doom Slayer and Ryu.

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This is the well known leak going around the insiders circle. Waiting on a few more leakers to have their sources confirm before you'll see the virginbens and sabis coming out with it publicly.

Agreed.

Who's art is this btw?

He looks almost afraid, like he's loosing control of his body or some shit

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Well my mom had an affair with somebody who worked for Nintendo and I heard Toad was getting in as DLC

Just wait a week until some random youtubers confirm it, it's totally legit

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That's funny, my sources have told me the Rabbids and Dig-Dug were the last two fighters. In fact I'd say it' only a matter of time till Vergeben backs me up.

>Toadfag attempting a resurgence after years of getting btfo of smash.
Pathetic.

No it isn’t, you’re making this up so people talk about your shitty picks and by extension shitty waifu

Sorry, the truth hurts. Toad and Reimu are the last two fighters.

>Rabids
Your choice in character disgusts and repulses me.

It's not my choice, it's Nintendo's. Just wait.

There, should be fixed.

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>Reimu
Universal flag for being a pedo.
Kys

So what Nintendo characters do you think got snubbed, whether you actually like the character or not?

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Reimu is probably older than you.

They're inevitable.
Papagenos will make a video on them tonight

Papagenos is a faggot.

>Some dumbass leaker no one cares about will vindicate me!
I scream as my car slides over the median

Lmfao
Based

Unironically isaac. I’m not a fan of the character, nor do I hate him, but it seems like he got snubbed pretty hard, even to the point of getting a mii costume AND an upgraded assist trophy. This means that sakurai is aware of his fans.

I guess Waluigi? And I'm kinda surprised no ARMS people got in

Based

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>Reimu.
Will not be in super smash bros ultimate as DLC

I hate how real the vibes feel from this
.. FUCK

Everyone in the image is based except for the 3 in the middle (steve,reimu,frisk)

>A post with the most basic ideas
>FUCK... TOO REAL

Every Kirby rep that's not from a Sakurai game.

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Since we know trailers can be continued, I have a suspicion that doomguy would be revealed as a continuation from the Ridley trailer where ZSS is trying her best trying to beat Ridley but is losing but before he lands the final blow he either gets shot or gets grabbed by the tail then rid looks over and boom its doomguy

This is fake for one glaring reason: too many details. When Erdrick was leaked, we only knew the character and nothing about the stages, alts, or final smash, and even then it wasn’t only Erdrick who was included. Even when Banjo was leaked so close to E3, we only knew that the character would be in with no further details. It is improbable that so many details would be leaked at one time when we know nothing else about Banjo yet other than what was in the trailer.

>Metal mario when the metal box is still in the game
Yeah, sure

Cant wait for all the Yea Forumsirgin tears when she gets announced

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Spring-man for sure, I guess Nintendo gave up on ARMS pretty quickly.

>Eggchad

if only

I guarantee my normie coworkers in Dominos wouldn't know this character, which is why Joker got in and she won't.

>when your character is the anthithesis of sexiness so you turn her into a fat whore

there was a 5ch leak from march that said the dqxi protagonist was the default and dqiii hero was one of the alternates

Persona mainline isn’t on Nintendo consoles, but Joker got added. Touhou is getting a Switch release of AoCF.

Don't do this, Ashleyfags and Deefags got cocky amidst the evidence and they ate shit. I want her too but she can very easily not make it simply because of the amount of competition.

>tfw Goku would actually have potential to be fun just from all the shit he can pull from
>could bring the power pole, kamehameha and all of its variants, instant transmission, spirit bomb, dragon fist, kaioken, his dozen other transformations
>could have a zenkai boost mechanic where as he takes damage and loses stocks, he can powerup further and further
Instead we'll get something disappointing.

I just want a Smough and Ornstein boss fight.

You expected Reimu but it was actually me, her totally not fake mom, Yukari!

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>Persona mainline isn’t on Nintendo consoles, but Joker got added.
Yeah but they had Persona games made BY ATLUS on Nintendo consoles. And Atlus has been making games for like 30 years for Nintendo consoles. I don't think that's the same.

Byleth, except you don't actually play as him, you switch between the three protags from Three Houses like PT.

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He said 70 percent could be lies but the things he heard the most were Reimu, Yukari, and Youkai buster

>measles thread

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Getting real tired of you fucks pretending Touhoufags actually expect Reimu or think she's particularly likely, and not just a cautiously optimistic hope.

>Dragon Quest was never as huge in the west as it is in Japan, but if places like Yea Forums are any evidence, smash is a damn good vehicle for advertisement, so even people who aren't already fans can still feel inclined into trying them out and become new fans, pushing sales on both new games for the system and the DLC. Something like this could easily happen with 2hu in the west.
See, here's my problem with that argument for me at least. Square has been actively trying to push DQ in the west practically since the series started. The same cannot be said for Touhou. I just don't like this idea people push where they assume that Touhou has all this upcoming content for Nintendo consoles because it's popular in Japan. There's really no other evidence or basis for thinking it.
>One argument against 2hu as a possible pick though is the lack of a push on Nintendo's end.
Yeah and this really is something I cant stress enough. Nintendo doesn't seem remotely interested in pushing Touhou outside of Japan. I just can't believe that they'll wait 'till Touhou is announced to start pushing it then

>expecting any fighters from Capcom or Konami in the DLC
>expecting any more Sega/SE/Microsoft characters in the DLC

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ZUN showed interest in expanded overseas but he never went as far as making official localizations for unknown reasons. Fans do make their own translations so it could be that.

I am hoping we get to see the AoCF port being at least acknowledged during a direct or indie event.

saki amamiya
the poor guy didn't even get his assist back

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>saying this about everyone but namco
If anything, namco is sitting this one out

based on what?

Alright fags
Do you think we're getting a second fighters pass or not, and if so, why?

>ZUN showed interest in expanded overseas but he never went as far as making official localizations for unknown reasons.
Well yeah, user that's kinda my point. ZUN may have expressed interest in that, but I don't take the lack of any official localizations as proof that he's planning to make a bunch of Switch ports. It just feels like an enormous leap.

I dont think there will be a 2nd pass but I'm thinking they might do one more bonus character after the FP ends

I think we might get more bonus fighters, but maybe not a second fighters pass. Sakurai doesn't seem to like the idea of season passes.

Even better.

>Do you think we're getting a second fighters pass or not, and if so, why?
Not expecting it, but it's welcome. Seeing how well the switch and smash is doing it'd be weird for Nintendo to pass up and supporting the game longer. I'll happily by bonus characters here and there, even if it's just an echo.

I don't think they'll do a second season pass. Like others have said, we may get 1-2 more bonus characters but honestly I kinda doubt that too

more fighters would be nice and I'm sure it'd make a lot of money, but I also want Sakurai to take a break and get some well earned rest

It could just be him testing the waters. AoCF already had a translation that got used for the PC version and it sold pretty well. If the switch port performs just as well it could lead to him porting more games. Handheld Touhou is something that hasn't been done yet and can only be done on the switch because of the screen size and controls.

I mean, yeah, sure, it could be him testing the waters. But this entire thread is about Reimu in Smash. I can't see an upcoming port signaling that he's getting a character in Smash

This was the true, less-spoken patrician Sun/Moon Pokemon choice and you can't convince me otherwise

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It was Buzzwole, nobody cares about that bear fag

no
yeah

A question for you unironic remiufags: Would ZUN actually be alright with Reimu being in Smash? I know he's cool with selling fangames and such but I know he has like some weird restrictions when it comes to big names using his characters like he doesn't even want official anime or anything. Would he really be alright if Nintendo asked to bring her in Smash?

That's just people gatekeeping the "must be in a nintendo console" fan rule.

>side character instead of a main character

Hayabusa never was popular before either. He only came up along with Kasumi after it became clear KT needed a rep.

I remember people pining for Ryu Hayabusa from the start of the pass till there was some statement or something that said KT wouldn't get a rep.

What are his chances, lads?

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>from the start of the pass
That's basically when the Kasumi popularity started too. Probably even earlier since KT tweeted at some point they would go with kasumi if they were ever asked.

What statement was there about KT not getting a rep?

>SFM dog porn girl before Ryu Hayabusa
>dollar store Tekken before SNK fightan rep, Tekken rep or MK rep (all more important and liked than Dead on Arrival)
>wanting ryonafags to take over Smash discussion
Fuck off, your D-tier waifu isn't gonna be in Smash and she never will be

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Probably not happening

Here's mine
>Terry, Zero and Alucard
>Doesn't want Sora or Undertale
>Mains Mega Man, Hero and Simon
Now THIS is what a based user looks like

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I really don't remember as I don't really follow that stuff that closely. I thought it was like a tweet from KT or something, but honestly I could be thinking of something totally different.

What? My argument is that it makes no sense for Nintendo to go for it. This is like saying that the Heavy has a shot in Smash because it's popular, even though it'd make very little sense for Nintendo to do it.
I just prefer a bit of logic when making my decisions for Smash

40%. He's got fan demand and there's no reason he can't be in Smash but I doubt Nintendo would want to try and hassle with two western companies for Banjo AND Crash.

Sora, Jill, Frisk and Crash are characters I'd like to see, personally.

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Then stop shilling your virtual wife, she's not going to happen.

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Fucking kek

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I don't think Raybros would even be mad about Ezio's inclusion.

I don't think KT will push Hayabusa over their mascot, especially since they basically tweeted it

How hard is it for you to understand that this is an expectation, not a wish.

youtube.com/watch?v=ecxlsjSm_Ss Does anyone buy this leak?

But user, an expectation based on your hopes IS a wish.

>this bait again
Cope. Your shitty generic knife guy will never be in. Here's the real Ubisoft rep.

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My wish is to get Wonder Red and Heavy, maybe Crash. Those are based on hopes.

My expectations are Kasumi and Doomguy, maybe Chosen Undead

I expect for Sakurai to come to your house and break your fucking arms.
You'd like it anyway since Dead on Arrival fans and ryonafags have such an overlap.

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he's likely, but not guaranteed

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I have never even played DOA.

Why is this making you so mad?

Doom Slayer's chances: 70%
Ryu Hayabusa's chances: 50%
Leon's chances: 60%
Crash's chances: 40%
Everyone else: 10%

>Mild support in the ballot
>Two remasters that sold well and are on switch
>B tier iconic
>Activision are jews and should not be trusted
>Western
I'd say a good 6/10 at best.

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>Doom Slayer
Please just call him Doomguy

>B tier iconic
D tier

>Doom Slayer's chances: 70%

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t. someone who thinks Remu is B-tier

meant for

Then in that case Banjo is F tier

Can someone please fucking explain otisposting to me, I don't get it at all
Based

Honestly, I'm fine with whatever.

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Peer pressure made me post it.

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BITCH I WILL CALL HIM WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT

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Who?

>Joker got in because Persona is hot as shit everywhere in the world right now
>Hero got in because Dragon Quest is hot as shit in Japan
>Banjo got in because he's nostalgia bait because 90s nostalgia has been hot for a long ass time, especially in the west
>every single character has generally been pretty recognizable to core audiences
>which is why people in these threads think that we're getting absolute literal fucking whos in the pass
No one knows who half of the fucking characters in this thread are

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But Doom Slayer sounds so silly.

M8, nobody here lives inside Sakurai's head or works for Nintendo to accurately predict what characters they want and why. We can speculate about whatever makes a character more or less likely but that's just what it is, speculation. Nobody fucking expected Piranha Plant or Joker as part of the DLC because they don't fit the usual fan rules.

If you want reasons to why they would want Reimu though, it would be the fact that she is one of the oldest and biggest indies while being relatively easy to negotiate through (read: no Square ish jewery), tons of potential in all areas (moveset, stages, music, etc.) and doubling as a shmup character who panders to the already profitable otaku crowd. Obviously there are other big names they could go with but the point is that she does have her unique pros that make her stand out on her own.

Ah, I appear to have misjudged you. You are at least somewhat based.

Fuck off, we don't need another FE swordsman in smash

And Doomguy doesn't?

And Doomguy doesn't?

I need a little help lads. Can anyone identify the songs used at
youtu.be/0hclKa_jLMY
0:46 and 1:02 in this video, and
youtube.com/watch?v=40zrOI-pc6I
0:32 in this video?
Thank you

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And still nobody suggested Astral Chain main character?

I mean yeah. Doom Slayer is way too melodramatic and like "WOAH EPIC" so anytime I hear people say anything about him using that name I just baka.

Capkeks are at it again

The thing I hate the most about these threads is how people refuse to aknowledge how big a character/franchise is just because they're not familiar/don't care about them
Like most people I've never cared about DQ but I've always aknowledged its importance, and the same should be applied to many others characters

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Fuck off and die, LaxChris.

What?

*Gets megaphone*
FUCK OFF AND DIE LAXCHRIS

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Imagine being this faggot

I just want a recurring character with a name and a face. None of this one-off JRPG protagonist stuff. Smash should be about timeless characters, not self-insert stand-ins nobody cares about after the next game in their series is released.

Nigger, Doom Slayer is basically what the demons call him. I don't care how "silly" you think it is. Demons do not say shit like "guy". This is HELL we're talking about. Not the circus. He's referred to as things like "Hellwalker" and "Unchained Predator" because all of hell sees him as a fearsome mortal warrior.

Be an adult, cut the "this is cringe" shit and deal with it. That's his canon title now.

i just need help identifying these songs used in official smash media, so i can mod them into smash. i mean, this is a smash thread so i thought someone could recognize them, but i guess not. sorry for entering the thread, i'll just ask somewhere else

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>considering Koei Tecmo basically said in an interview that they want to put Kasumi in over him sort of adds to her chances.
No, that was the director of DoA.
Snake was in because Kojima begged Sakurai for it, lil zoom.

Get off of my board

This entire post is cringe.

Based as fuck.

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It sounds so fucking stupid and you will not tell me otherwise.

I pretty hyped for Astral Chain and from what I've seen, Akira make for a really cool and unique fighter. But considering that Rex and Spring Man were considered too recent to make the cut, they seem super unlikely

im not laxchris man what the fuck is wrong with you

Crash Bandicoot and Ryu Hayabusa are going to shit on your fucking grave.

Right, and I'm speculating too user. What do you think this is, me spitting out facts?
I don't even care why people want Reimu, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't seem to make any logical sense.
>Obviously there are other big names they could go with but the point is that she does have her unique pros that make her stand out on her own.
You can say this about practically every vidya character, user.

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL HERE, GO AWAY

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>someones mere existence makes you seethe
i will enter these threads as much as i fucking want, AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME

Joker is part of Atlus, who's been making Nintendo games for 30 years. And there were TMS spirits in the base game. People expected Joker if you were paying attention, user.

i fuckin wish

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This post is the physical representation of why the name sounds dumb as hell. Thank you for putting it better than I ever could

These waits are fucking killing me
How long until the next big thing that Nintendo would announce something at? Are we going to be speculating until the fucking Game Awards in December again?

>Doomguy actually gets in Smash
>He's called "Doom Slayer"
How bad will boomers seethe?

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fuck me fuck me the last character will be Byleth from fire emblem. Fuck mother fucking cunt another fucking anime faggot sword fighter. get ready boys.

One post cannot contain how based you are user.

0:46 Virtua Fighter 2 opening
youtube.com/watch?v=P0wRd6x18LA
dunno the source of the others but 0:32 is just a remix of the Tower of Druaga theme, probably from one of the arcade collections

Good job, LaxChris. You lurked long enough to know what our buzzwords mean. I'm surprised you took the time to learn while you were milking Yea Forums for views, you fucking turbo-jew.

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>Dante
>Jill Valentine
>Chris Redfield
>Leon S. Kennedy

These are my top 4. Has to be them. RE needs a rep. Been on the Nintendo consoles for like 20 years with millions of sales.

Crash Bandicoot still fits in with that group

>Snake was in because Kojima begged Sakurai for it, lil zoom.
Exactly. I dont remember Kojima begging for Simon Belmont

Who the fuck is Laxchris? Some kind of Barneyfag ripoff?

$500 on it being some faggot nobody eceleb

What the fuck are you talking about?
Kojima has nothing to do with Castlevania.

OH NONONONONO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

thanks man

>Twitter memes
One step forward, two steps back as per usual. Hasn't your channel died off?

>some people wanting an undertale rep
>chosing sans/frisk
>not wanting undyne
Can't believe these retards

there are too many i do not want in but im not that much of a sperg to cram them all in

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Well he did apparently help with Lords of Shadows, but that's hardly relevant to your point

how do you feel about pic related

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>I'm just pointing out that it doesn't seem to make any logical sense.
Sorry dude, I have no idea of what you are trying to say.
Them why wasn't he high on the polls? Why weren't rosterfags here circlejerking over him? It's easy to bring up his pros now that he is in but he was never a highly expected character, hell, I saw more people expecting a SMT rep than Joker.

Part of the reason people probably use anecdotal arguments is because rosterfagging is ultimately treated as a competition due to the finite number of newcomer slots. If someone personally acknowledged the legitimacy of other characters, they'd have to admit their own picks have more competition.

>Sora
>Likely
Do you know how many levels of FUCKED nintendo would have to be to put a fucking DISNEY character into Smash?

Disney would have to own Nintendo to allow it.

Would Ghost Trick count as third party

Yeah I'm thinking he's in bros

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So what're the chances of this being legit?

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>Le Generic Knight Man
"No!"

SOON.

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I swear to god if we get another fucking sword user.

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0

0%

Why do you feel like that?

yeah, with more consideration, sora definitely stands too close to other disney characters to be put in. i don't think it's entirely impossible though

>undead knight
>generic
name five other undead knight protags in vidya

Yo.

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>Sorry dude, I have no idea of what you are trying to say.
I'm just pointing out that it doesn't seem to make any logical sense.
Are you just giving up actually discussing this or something?
>Them why wasn't he high on the polls?
Because Persona 5 came out after the polls I'm assuming.
>Why weren't rosterfags here circlejerking over him?
Uh, they were. A number of people said that from a business perspective, Joker made the most sense. A lot of other people tried to argue for JAck Frost though, which never made much sense
>It's easy to bring up his pros now that he is in but he was never a highly expected character, hell, I saw more people expecting a SMT rep than Joker.
Those people were dumb then, SMT is way less popular than Persona and Persona actively has multiple titles upcoming. Including Q2 a month before Smash with Joker in it.

And by the way this is still way, way more evidence than Reimu has, which is just "no seriously, she's popular in Japan"

0
>Textleak
Literally no reason to believe this.

Gee i wonder why
>banjo and 4th dlc ripped off another theory
>codenames despite hero BTFOing that theory to hell and back
>despite the codenames it's blatantly obvious it's a doomguy/crash/geno wishlist
>an entire wol expansion, boss rush, break the targets AND target blast
>geno, again who already got BTFO'd by galeem
>MUH MINECRAFT CONTENT

>Porky as a boss
Yes please

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Banjo and 4th dlc release date ripped off from another theory*

Not very high

>>banjo and 4th dlc ripped off another theory
I'm confused, wasn't this posted after Banjo's reveal?
>>codenames despite hero BTFOing that theory to hell and back
Wouldn't Hero work in favor of codenames, though?
>>despite the codenames it's blatantly obvious it's a doomguy/crash/geno wishlist
I'm pretty sure it's intended to be Master Chief, but I get your point nonetheless.
>>an entire wol expansion, boss rush, break the targets AND target blast
I mean it's a bit much, but you have to keep the game alive beyond adding new characters somehow.
>>geno, again who already got BTFO'd by galeem
I don't understand this, I'm assuming you're talking about Spirits, but if Geno would somehow get in, they could just rename the original Spirit.
>>MUH MINECRAFT CONTENT
There's nothing that says Minecraft content of any form can't be in the game, though. And the stage isn't even a part of the Fighter's Pass, only the supposed Mii Fighter costumes are.

What's wrong with swords, fag?

>Are you just giving up actually discussing this or something?
Nah, your statement is just too vague. If you have nothing else to say that's alright.

Not gonna argue about Joker because I can barely remember that time.

>And by the way this is still way, way more evidence than Reimu has, which is just "no seriously, she's popular in Japan"
Speculative, as you said. Reimu being popular in Japan is a fact, there is a documentary that goes deep into that if you want to see it.

rent free

Lameu is not getting in

>Because Persona 5 came out after the polls I'm assuming.
I think he's talking about the numerous fan poll Yea Forums and many other websites had.
I don't remember single most wanted/likely poll where Joker ranked particularly high, if at all. Like it was said earlier, it's easy to see Joker's inclusion as logical long after it's happened, but Joker had relatively minimal push during the actual hype season

Sir Daniel
Arthas
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Specter Knight
War

Reimu makes sense for many reasons but there are other characters that also make sense, so at this point it's impossible to predict who's gonna be in.

>Reimu
>Not based
what

>Nah, your statement is just too vague.
Ok so you're just giving up.
>Not gonna argue about Joker because I can barely remember that time.
Yeah, like I just said. Even though a second ago you were arguing against Joker.
>Speculative, as you said.
Wel no, there's actually nothing besides that. No mainline Touhou games have appeared on any Nintendo consoles, ZUN has never pushed Touhou outside of Japan, and Nintendo doesn't push the fangames on their consoles. There's no reason to think that Nintendo would go for Touhou.
>Reimu being popular in Japan is a fact, there is a documentary that goes deep into that if you want to see it.
I never denied she was popular in Japan, in fact I specifically acknowledged it.

Discordfags.

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Nobody in this thread gave two shits about doomguy or reimu before the august direct last year.

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>I don't remember single most wanted/likely poll where Joker ranked particularly high, if at all.
Ok? This speculation was mostly at a fever pitch when people saw TMS spirits in the base game, and Joker was announced the day Smash released.
>Like it was said earlier, it's easy to see Joker's inclusion as logical long after it's happened, but Joker had relatively minimal push during the actual hype season
Yeah, I disagree. Those Atlus spirits in the main game pretty much cinched it that they were involved. I called Joker the second I saw those, as did others.

Based

You are contradicting your own posts, I am gonna assume that you are someone else pretending to be the guy I was talking to, this is my last reply.

Read , i fucked up there
Basically he stole the release dates from another theory floating around now so that's already null and void
>Wouldn't Hero work in favor of codenames, though?
It wouldn't because brave is literally what you get when you translate Yuusha (Hero) from japanese
>I don't understand this, I'm assuming you're talking about Spirits, but if Geno would somehow get in, they could just rename the original Spirit.
Except that's not how it works at all. Every spirit that does exist of fighters actually in the game is solely of stuff like alternate costumes
Geno can't do that since his spirit is of his normal form, unlike shit like tennis mario/captain k rool
>There's nothing that says Minecraft content of any form can't be in the game, though. And the stage isn't even a part of the Fighter's Pass, only the supposed Mii Fighter costumes are.
There isn't, but the fact that he added it in in the first place to appease virginben's "there's minecraft content guiz" bullshit clearly throws up a red flag

>Arthas
I'm not familiar with WoW lore but doesn't he become undead after the game ends?
>Christof
I dunno if vampires fall under the same category as other undead

>You are contradicting your own posts
Since you don't bother to say how or in what capacity, I'm assuming you're just straight up lying here
>this is my last reply.
Yeah I'd run away too if I had absolutely no response to this like you do.

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I care about Doomguy. I could give or take him in smash though.

This back and forth "he's in" and "he's not" is retarded.

What's some music that your Smash picks would bring with them? Hard mode: They get the Final Fantasy treatment.

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Only good post ITT.

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>Chrono
>Pork
Based
>Gaymu
Yikes
>Ness
Double yikes
>Lucas
Basado

>DDLCuck calling Touhouchads "c-cringe!"
Every damn time

It's completely unimportant to his "character" and design. It'd be like if they added Skyrim Vikingman and he didn't use shouts but you'd say "name one other Nord (Elder Scrolls Race) Dragonborn character in gaming!". It's not even visually distinct in his design that Le Generic Knight Man is Undead. For example, Sir Dan - an unread Knight, is clearly an Undead Knight.

JANE
IS
CUT
CONTENT
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
NIGGER

>Touhouchads

You're right
I cant wait to shit all over Reimuniggers like we did to the stevefags
Don't care about doomguy though, in or not in
It'd be cool if he actually used his fucking fire arms

The only predictions that make the most sense based on currently hyped up and anticipated + promoted games is Doomguy/Doom Slayer and someone else. (IMHO I think Doomguy is a lock) Like Leon or Ryu Hayabusa. Crash is likely too but not as much as rosterfags think he is.

Not many other reps fit the bill except them.

>Objection! 2016
>Pursuit - Cornered

>more datamine nonsense

boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/reimu smash/type/op/start/2018-01-01/end/2019-08-01/order/asc/

Popularity is shit next to legacy. Remember Steve?
Popularity is volatile and can change drastically in a few days. Legacy is not, it's constant.

I feel like RE getting that wierdly long section in that last direct is definitely a point for the RE crew but i feel like two gun dudes for the final two would be really strange

I bet they're so familiar with fucking Banjo-Kazooie

>It's completely unimportant to his "character"
>the chosen undead being undead is unimportant

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>RE getting that wierdly long section in that last direct
That shit was just fucking weird
>creepy haunted house so they're doing a proper port of 7 maybe?
>nah, here are some games that are already out and you already knew are coming

ZUN doesn't give a shit about anything as long as it doesn't affect the Touhou canon

it is one guy trying to force a meme. It's a failure trying so hard to capture the spirit of Steveposting

I guess? I'd have to ask. I imagine at least a few of them are based on prior conversation. Probably more from N&B more than anything else.

Low.

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I AM THE EGGMAN!
THAT'S WHAT I AM, I AM THE EGGMAN!
I'VE GOT THE MASTER PLAN!

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Based and eggpilled

I don't get why a live action segment for some fucking ports is a big deal to REfags. That's just reaching.

Come on, man.
Just because your waifu's a fish doesn't mean you have to give up all of your common sense.

Not everything has to be promotional. If Touhou gets in, it'll be because it's deserving.

>Another epic discord raid
Fuck off

What did he mean by this

See but then the argument is "It'll get in just because" which is the same argument you could use for a bunch of vidya characters.
>Not everything has to be promotional.
When Nintendo is choosing the characters and so far they all have been, I don't see how this argument makes any sense

I cared about Reimu in Smash since 2015. But you're right, popularity in the Smash community is what she lacked the most. Glad to see it's no longer the case.

>See but then the argument is "It'll get in just because" which is the same argument you could use for a bunch of vidya characters
Which is why saying a character is impossible is fucking retarded unless you're just screencap baiting.

So does that mean Rare Replay may be coming to Switch?

>Touhou deserves this
Sounds like the words of a middle aged mom on a yoplait commercial.

>Which is why saying a character is impossible is fucking retarded
I never said Reimu was impossible, just that it didn't make any sense.
I mean, xbox live is on Switch so maybe

I haven't seen the beginning of your garbage but saying a character "doesn't make any sense" is stupid too when you look at how big and dedicated the Touhou fanbase is. It's far from making no sense, especially if they want to represent indie games (which is unlikely, I'll give you that).

Are you seriously implying that Reimu has legacy?

>I haven't seen the beginning of your garbage
Then why were you assuming I was saying she was impossible
>but saying a character "doesn't make any sense" is stupid too when you look at how big and dedicated the Touhou fanbase is
Well it doesn't make any sense from a business perspective to go for Touhou when Zun has never worked with Nintendo in the past and has put no mainline games on the console and hasn't pushed it outside of Japan.
>It's far from making no sense, especially if they want to represent indie games
I mean they could also push Undertale, which is on Nintendo consoles with it's sorta sequel, is popular in Japan and worldwide, and they have a working relationship with Toby Fox.

My biggest issue with Touhou in Smash is that everyone ignores any argument against it and just keeps repeating that it's popular in Japan

ZUN's letting Aniplex develop a decently high profile mobile game, so I don't think he would really care unless Smash pulled some massive fuckery with the representation of the franchise. But since Sakurai has already demonstrated an attention to detail for other third-parties, it's doubtful that it would be a problem.

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Touhou fans are very convinced their games are very mainstream for a series I've never seen referenced outside of Yea Forums smash threads.

...are you implying she doesn't?
I've seen this board be extremely retarded in the past but you're not going that far right?

>Zun has never worked with Nintendo in the past
Not strictly true.

shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19472.msg1252539.html#msg1252539
>Last December, ZUN had officially given Nintendo a license, allowing Band Brothers players to upload music based on all Team Shanghai Alice albums, i.e. the PC-98 Touhou OST, and ZUN's music collections. They followed it up with a Shanghai Alice Remix Contest for players, with ZUN as a special judge. The winners were announced in the previous broadcast ZUN attended; their compositions will be collected in a CD sold at Reitaisai, marking Nintendo's first ever appearance at Reitaisai.

>fulgore
FUCKING BASED

Touhou is not mainstream in the west. This does not mean the franchise is without legacy.

>Undertale
Yeah yeah we get it zoomer shit over deserving shit, you guys never learn, fuck off

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>Gave Nintendo a licence for music
C'mon user, I think it's clear I mean actually developing games for their consoles
How is Touhou deserving on Smash if they've never had a mainline game on Nintendo consoles? Doesn't sound very deserving.

I'm personally not arguing legacy, I'm just arguing the assertion I always see in these threads that Touhou is this hugely popular franchise, specifically in the West. I believe its popular in japan, but not here. Here I'd say its about Dragon Quest tier

I am, most certainly, implying, she doesn't.

I know people who say Super Mario Bros was their childhood or Banjo Kazooie was their chidlhood. I even know people who claim Minecraft was their childhood. I have yet to meet someone who says, Touhou is their childhood. As if Touhou was defining for their generation. As if the industry was revolutionized by the appearance of these games. THATS what it means to have legacy. Touhou doesn't have any of that.

Define what makes someone "deserving" of getting into smash
In fact, anyone else in this thread can if you can't, you simpering buffoon
I'll wait

First, I'm not arguing that no one wanted or expected Joker, I'm saying that he wasn't that popular around within Smash community prior to his reveal. Secondly, you keep saying that the TMS spirits are what made made Joker's inclusion obvious but there are a few holes in that logic:
A.) Spirit weren't revealed until the November 1st direct, a month before the game was released. From March through October, Joker was barely discussed within Smash threads, outside of a few odd mentions here and there. Even after the direct, Joker was still fairly low key compared the fallout of the grinch leak, the game getting leaked, and people pushing characters like Porky or Sylux as the most likely candidates
B.) By your logic, it's obvious that FP 4 and 5 will be an Ubisoft rep, due to the Rayman and Rabbid spirits, and A KT rep, due having a Fatal Frame spirit.
If you expected him, good for you. But don't try to act like he was highly anticipated for anyone outside the few people like you who apparently put it together prior to TGA

I hope you have a painful death

>How is Touhou deserving on Smash if they've never had a mainline game on Nintendo consoles?
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
What's deserving is what has legacy.

>How is Touhou deserving on Smash if they've never had a mainline game on Nintendo consoles?
Unless you really want to count SMT If as a Personal title, Persona has no mainline games on a Nintendo console.

No, Joker's not a Megaten rep. How many references to the greater Megaten franchise are included in his Smash implementation or anything he brought with him?

>And I the king of video games, decides what is both deserving and has legacy!

Anyone with a brain can tell what has legacy.

>What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Well because I think it's foolish to expect a game series where the creator hasn't even attempted to make games for Nintendo.
>B.) By your logic, it's obvious that FP 4 and 5 will be an Ubisoft rep, due to the Rayman and Rabbid spirits, and A KT rep, due having a Fatal Frame spirit.
No because most of those companies already had spirits in Smash, user.
>But don't try to act like he was highly anticipated for anyone outside the few people like you who apparently put it together prior to TGA
This was being discussed plenty in Smash topics here on Yea Forums, user. Sorry you didn't believe it.

I will slam your face against a god damn table.

>I know people
What's with rosterfag threads and the overwhelming tendency to fall back on anecdotal evidence?

>Well because I think it's foolish to expect a game series where the creator hasn't even attempted to make games for Nintendo.
But you're wrong. Both Sakurai and Reggie said it didn't matter. That's not what makes a character deserving.

A series that is decades old, is still popular today, has a large dedicated fanbase, and has huge influence on japanese culture, is something that I would consider having legacy.

>Unless you really want to count SMT If as a Personal title, Persona has no mainline games on a Nintendo console.
They've had Persona games made by Atlus on Nintendo consoles and Atlus has been making Nintendo games for over 30 years.
I don't see how this is the same as ZUN at all, who hasn't made any Nintendo games.

Because that's what it is? Are you goofy enough to think there's any true rhyme or reason to any of this?

It's not anecdotal evidence. It's an anecdotal example of what legacy means.YOU actually have to provide evidence as to why Touhou does have legacy, since you hold the burden of proof.

Actual retard

>But you're wrong. Both Sakurai and Reggie said it didn't matter
It seems to have mattered for literally every entry in the series so far. And I'll believe that a non-nintendo rep can get in when it happens.
>That's not what makes a character deserving.
I don't think the character mostly disconnected from Nintendo deserves a spot in Smash. Existing a long time doesn't cut it.

Great argument, retard

Gawd i just want to know who's next. How long is it gonna take? September? October?

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>I don't think the character mostly disconnected from Nintendo deserves a spot in Smash
But again, you're wrong. There are things outside of the Nintendo niche, and they deserve to be acknowledged as well.

>comiket numbers
>pixiv, niconico and youtube hits
>the existence of Retaisai

The difference is that namco helped with the development of the game dear capkek

>But again, you're wrong.
I don't think I am.
>There are things outside of the Nintendo niche, and they deserve to be acknowledged as well.
Sure, but not in Smash. And I don't see why Nintendo would choose a rep for Smash that is outside of the Nintendo niche.

>guys its not popularity that matters! It's legacy
>asks for proof of this "legacy"
>Here is proof of her popularity!

Please i want louie

Popularity only matters if it's for characters you like, user

How does any of this show Reimu has legacy?

Contrary to what people try to claim, Smash is still very much in "Nintendo's niche" as it were. Video game all stars it is not. Although that is the direction it is heading

Good thing thats all what Reimu has

>Look guys I'm retarded
Here have your (you)

>Least wanted
>Whole fucking Shitleth in the three slots
Based

Ah, so you don't have any actual arguments.

Well it was nice playing anyway

>Joker has pretty much ruined dante's chances of being in smash
t. retard who's literally never played a DMC game
>B-but he has rainstorm!!
But he doesn't have weapon or style swapping, only the dagger, guns and single Persona. If Dante made it in, he'd be nothing even remotely like Joker.

>Re needs a rep
And crapcom needs to fuck off until they decide to release a fucking game knstead of dumping low effort overpriced ports

>It wouldn't because brave is literally what you get when you translate Yuusha (Hero) from japanese
And that doesn't debunk anything in that supposed leak.
>Except that's not how it works at all. Every spirit that does exist of fighters actually in the game is solely of stuff like alternate costumes
>Geno can't do that since his spirit is of his normal form, unlike shit like tennis mario/captain k rool
Except for the fact that there are spirits of the Wii Fit Trainer, same costume as usual, just doing moves. You're making up random things, you almost seem desperate to find a reason why it couldn't happen.
>but the fact that he added it in in the first place to appease virginben's "there's minecraft content guiz" bullshit clearly throws up a red flag
Prove this claim.

I'm not the user that posted about comiket or reitaisai, but ignoring the influence of touhou in the japanese indie industrie, and that's not only videogames, but also talking about fucking music and art. Dude you have to be retarded.
Is like saying Dragon Quest is Irrelevant in japan and doesn't have a legacy.

>Mega Man 11

>I don't see how this is the same as ZUN at all
I never said anything of the sort. I'm simply responding to the question of how a game can be deserving of playable Smash representation without a mainline game on a Nintendo console. Joker is DLC and Persona has no mainline entries on Nintendo.

To be fair user RE7 came out 2 years ago

Fair enough, but I'm pointing out that the Joker situation is nothing like the Touhou situation at all. So personally I don't find that very compelling.

So we're all in agreement?
Kasumi is one of the remaining two.

>comiket or reitaisai means music and art influence
Yeah because before Touhou they didn't know how to draw anime girls yet

Being the face of the doujinshi industry is legacy. Touhou is one of the oldest and most prevalent doujin franchises. Touhou grew the entire doujin scene and is the pioneering franchise for indie gaming in Japan.

How many other gaming franchises are able to drive fanworks, including large numbers of full indie games, on the same scale, level of consistency, or span of time as Touhou?

That Reitaisai continues to exist and is held a twice a year, despite being propped up almost entirely by fan content for over a decade and having no commerical backing, is itself a testament to the franchise. There's probably more released albums of music alone that can be attributed to Touhou than most, if not any other game series.

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You're literally contradicting official statements.

No

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Why would it anger a discordfag when those are all of the characters they use for shitposting?

user can you read well? I'm asking because you just take what's convenient for you, and interpret it as what's convienent for your reasoning.
Do you know what the word influence means? I'm genuinely worried of your reading comprehension

I don't see how my post was doing that at all, you wanna explain or show these statements?

Because this only advocates for popularity, not for legacy. Even though there is tons of Touhou music, it didn't change the music industry. No artist was "inspired" by Touhou music. It's all just fans making content for other fans within their own bubble.