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tranny indie developers BTFO
Facts and logic never have an effect on people like that any way. They have the moral high ground. Facts must be censored for great justice.
that's honestly hilarious. what a fucking blunder by the devs
surprised g2a even cares lol, thought most reseller sites just ignore these things?
Based
The funny thing is the guy in the article still doubts g2a version of the story
G2A CHADS JUST KEEP WINNING
tranny sjw numale indie devs BTFO'D.
>SJW devs are connieving, greedy cunts
What a surprise.
>g2a exist since 2010
>NS2 released 2012
What am I missing? Did the marketplace start at some other date?
>Did the marketplace start at some other date
yes
>Army time
>Phoneposter
You double nigger
Yeah, I'm not really following this either. The dates don't line up at all. NS2 aside, Subnautica was 2018. Then there is Subnautica 2 or whatever. And as you point out, G2A was established fucking 8 years before Subnautica even came out.
>based g2a calling indies out on their shit
It was a retailer from 2010-2018, acquiring and selling keys driectly themselves.
Changed to a "marketplace" in July 2018, allowing third parties who had keys to sell them.
Subnautica came out in January of 2018.
>it was real in my imagination
Devs can't accept the fraud occurs on their own store, and the reselling on G2A is after that very fact
charge backs are not a G2A issue. they are an issue in the dev store, that let some dubious card without 2FA buy 10K keys in builk
FIX YOUR FUCKING STORE DEVTARD, AND STOP SENDING REVIEW KEYS TO RANDOS
It seems like the site was a real site back in the day, or atleast was a domain page. But the marketplace and all that stuff, the actual g2a site with options to purchase and all that, wasnt around until later. Which they say the ns2 purchases from g2a couldnt have happened then because that marketplace wasnt running at the time.
Well need more details from both sides I guess to make concrete answers.
I understand. Although, also, it's not like keys stopped existing just because a game isn't new. They could have still been selling keys.
I don't care. Fuck G2A for doing the keyblocker thing. I want people to resell the few good humble monthly games for 2 dollars.
They didn't do it until there are 100 devs on board, and they hardly got 20
they have postponed the deadline, and it seems like it will never happen
they are basically exposing the journo+dev mafia from blogs
>o-oh my mistake
jesus. and all those fucking people yesterday calling their baseless claim "proof" that G2A did bad things
trannies on suicide watch
What will the keyblocker actually effect?
>they are basically exposing the journo+dev mafia from blogs
that sounds like EVIL FASCIST GAMERGATOR TALK
S-STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO HOW WE- HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER LIKE THAT IT'S JUST... HOW IT IS
SEXIST RACIST
nah
there is really a bunch of journos and devs that systematically push their agenda
there are plenty of examples, like shitting on Valve constantly, no matter what they do, and shilling Epic in the most obvious way
other example that comes to mind is that shit yellow handheld with a crank that is laughable, and they are shilling it into stardom, because they are all on the same boat
nigger don't 'nah' me
you can't criticize the media or the media will demonize you
might as well just kill ourselves
very good experience with Eneba lately
i've bought a bunch of expensive keys (aka 10e and up) with zero issues
g2a has been a little sketchy lately, this xmas in particular
ok, now I get you. sorry
Subnautica trannies absolutely demolished. If you aren't banned on their steam discussion page you are GAY.
>going there at all, even if just to get banned
You are already gay.
From what I got of this situation, some sellers don't have working keys, they purchase games as gifts to the client, then ask for a refund, basically a scam, but, something that I don't understand, wouldn't this hit Valve first, they are the store front, they handle most of the legal aspect of the business.
Feels like someone is omitting information.
>using steam discussion
>Discussing your political opinions on the internet
>Discussing your political opinions on a videogame forum
Nigga you fucked up at the core. It's like being proud of not getting raped at the prison shower, something went wrong anyways
G2A was around since 2010. Subnautica came out in 2018. What the fuck are they talking about?
Bullshit, I sold a key in 2016 myself. It was advertised on practically every stream and youtube channel that you could sell keys.
the dev is talking about natural selection cashbacks, and g2a marketplace was not working until 2014
he is basically blaming g2a like all the other devs and journos
>they missed the shitposting after they fired one of their employees for wrongthink
Literally gay
>Launched in 2014, G2A Marketplace was celebrating its 5th birthday this year. The said keys were allegedly stolen and sold before March 8, 2013 – 6 years ago. Charlie wrote: ‘We paid $30,000 to deal with credit card chargebacks because of G2A.’ That’s just slander, and we expect him to at least edit his posts, if not straight up apologize.
the devs are talking about chargebacks from purchases of their previous game Natural Selection 2
G2A didn't have outside key re-sellers until 2014
please, read past the headlines if you consider yourself a human being
Why are indie developers such entitled attention whore drama queen faggots?
Because they're losers. All losers are like this.
Why should i give a flying fuck what a private company does you filthy commie?
Product good: buy
Product bad: ignore
>Hi I'm faggot indie dev
>I'm putting these keys on humble bundle. Pls don't resell them.
I think that's the gist of it.
Can I make games and not be a fag? I don't want to be associated with people like this.
>commie
Based and retardpilled
Worrying about being associated with people due to your profession confirms you for a fag already, sorry.
You’re one step away from posting #notallgamedevs on twitter
OH nonononono, where will these devs get their money now? I think the big studios should pay additional taxes on their revenue to subsidize based indie devs like these guys.
Global rule 2
Because while it's great they aren't being forced to crunch by a publisher like most AAA devs, they also think that they're invincible.
>We should regulate the interaction of two private entities even when this doesn't concern us in the slightest!
Funny no one supports corps here except the trannies.
Because unlike the "garage developers" of decades past who made games from scratch in their spare time while actually having a "real" job, most modern "indie devs" are upper class hipster faggots who have all day to make their shitty Unity/Gamemaker shit and cry on social media about dumb shit. Instead of working to earn the money to make their game, they get money from their boomer parents or a patreon/kickstarter to make it and don't have a job.
Yeah, we regulate the interactions of private entities on a daily basis, retard.
That’s why you can’t fuck little boys, scam people, illegally employ people, blackmail people, etc. etc.
How many millions of dollars do you think a paper mill spends on compulsory insurance?
Some things are just the cost of doing business.
Fuck companies. They're just a big pile of someone else's money.
>What will the keyblocker actually effect?
If anything it'll just make legit owners not able to activate the keys because they activated them "too late"
How deep was that asspull?
>Lmao who cares about people losing employment for their speech and beliefs, it's only censorship if it's the government doing it
>And that definitely wouldn't happen to me so who cares
>all these indie devs getting btfo because no one wants to pay for the absurd prices on the launchers
>mfw
kek
Subnautica has been in early access since 2014.
Humble and bundlestars are responsible for making me pay for the indie games i play
G2A and Eneba are responsible for making me pay for the AAA games I play
>army time
What...?
it's what americans call a 24 hour clock
he meant military time
americans can't into time anyway
He thinks every country in the world uses a 12 hour clock, and that the only thing that uses a 24-hour clock is the military.
>Launched in 2014
Yeah, about that...
Fucks these tranny devs. If it was their way they’d make it illegal to sell a cd key.
the marketplace
It wasn't a marketplace back then
You can see them selling Steam keys right there.
The marketplace they're referring to is regarding third party key reselling, the keys they sold prior to that date were all directly from developers and publishers, no user resale
Like I said, it wasn't a marketplace back then. They're selling them themselves.
there are plenty of sites selling steam keys without having a marketplace
As a retailer.
The whole argument is key reselling, not key selling.
What's the point of having a store that only sells stuff from other stores anyways? I mean besides the credit card fraud money laundering angle. If there's a store that only sold Walmart gift cards, wouldn't people just go to Walmart instead?
Imagine you bought those gift cards during sales and you resell them for almost the full price. That's the point.
>buy brand new game on keysite for $30 or buy it on steam for $60
only retarded redditors buy straight from steam and other stores
Or buy keys from one region where they cost the equivalent of $10 USD and sell them for $20 to Americans who would have to buy the game for $30.
Still weren't doing reselling.
Yeah, stores often call themselves marketplaces, please reread some of the posts you quoted, the user/3rd party key reselling wasn't added until later
Just don’t act like a fag and you’ll be fine. Of course this may ostracize you from the rest of the indie dev community.
I meant from the business side of the equation.
That makes some sense. So they're basically internet scalpers.
redditparrots on suicide watch
They were scalpers before the marketplace opened, now they're Amazon for individual independent scalpers.
it's another episode of people defend what journos tell them to defend, blindly
each new thread, new g2a customers are born
g2a was a shady stolen key reselling place 7 years ago. They can pretend they weren't, but everybody that isn't a zoomer remembers this.
Every time these retards feel the need to whine on rqirrwe a new g2a customer or pirate is born.
no PROOF needed, can't be bothered
Found one redditparrot activating his cope mechanism
They created the G2A Marketplace explicitly to resell keys after developers refused to work with them. They were never an official reseller.
Can you source your claim?
Nobody said they were. They were doing region-based and bulk resells for profit before they opened the marketplace allowing individuals to sell to each other.
>I hate indies so G2A is good
Why are you people so retarded that you can't grasp that more than one side can be the bad guy.
Yeah well the i like the bad guy that get's me a $60 game for $15.
Just pirate it and pay zero dollars, stupid.
>only pay attention to one half of the negativity
>"WHY IS ONLY THIS HALF GETTING NEGATIVITY"
people have shit on G2A just as much as any dev. Factorio devs are calmly jumping through all of G2A's hoops and G2A is being slow, resistant, and arrogant about it
>just miss out on automatic updates, workshop support, matchmaking, etc. because the devs are having a baby bitch fit over losses that everyone experiences in digital marketplaces
keep dreaming fagface
Because lolnosales and lolnoadvertising
They only way they know to get attention on their shitty games is by being drama queens on twitter.
I can't find the source you posted, but I did find a page with that quote, that specifies AAA devs, which doesn't really change anything since you can get keys legit from indies and sell those, many sites do that still. Granted it's a G2A site so if you can provide your link, that one might be more reliable than the one I found. g2a.co
These devs need to understand that people fucking hate them, even when their games are good. Acting like smug entitled assholes, whining about everything, blaming steam for not doing your work for you (“promote muh game more”), talking shit about their customers, pushing SJW shit on Twitter, all that, doesn’t help. They are like the worst caricature of millennials.
It makes people instinctively recoil from whatever they are talking about, like seeing a cockroach scurry across the floor. It would not surprise me if a significant number of people responded to this by signing up for G2A.
indie incels just CANT COMPETE
There are too many people nowadays that want to take a moral high ground on things, even if it's by unscrupulous means. It's very embarrassing, people delude themselves by thinking lying is okay because they feel like they're morally Superior to the person they're lying about.
>I did find a page with that quote, that specifies AAA devs, which doesn't really change anything since you can get keys legit from indies
Yeah that's why in the Wayback Machine archive from 2013 you can see their front page showcasing such indie games as Red Faction Armageddon, Anno 2070, Battlefield Bad Company 2, and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
Wasn't aware that Subnautica and Natural Selection 2 were made by the same studio. Man I really wanted to like NS2. The concept is so interesting but I only played the game for a few days before dropping it.
Cant blame a marketplace. Put some safeguards on the original purchases or just stop offering keys if you want total control.
This isnt true, you could sell keys on g2a before 2018 lol
lmao imagining having this much of a victim complex
That was a legit shill ridiculously fudging the dates because he thought the argument was about Subnautica.
Spoon-feed pls
I buy a game on g2a almost every week, thanks to IGN ruining bundles
Jesus Christ do you drink your lunch?
>release early access on Steam for years
>and then release the game on Epic
>take Tim's money for an Epic giveaway
>defend the People's Republic and communism
>and then ask G2A for money
God damn this company is the worst.
>communism
>in china
LMAO
>that writing
Way to be unbiased journo faggot
>canadian flag
Is that dude cosplaying a /pol/ meme?