Yea Forums always talk about monster hunter, should i play it?

Yeah Ahtal-ka is a fun fight, I don't care if it's "anime" or whatever gay complaint people use. Nakarkos is pretty cool too

MHGU did a good job with the big bosses, only one that's shit really is the big dragon guy, Shan something or other

>Ahtal-ka is a fun fight
>Nakarkos is pretty cool too
You are a good man and I respect your opinions. The Generations/Ultimate giant monster fights are fun as all hell, with Nakarkos bringing out other monsters' gimmicks as its weapons and Ahtal-Ka using its mech and various weapons, including multiple dragonators, against you while the theme plays.

Unironically my favorite monsters and my favorite fights.

Hello ESL user.
It's got character customization but it's fairly limited with the exception of armor/weapons, of which there are tons gear variety. The monsters are set and do not change within each game. They are only hostile so I dont really know what you mean by customize the monsters anyway.
The story is barebones as fuck and just a vehicle to get you to fight more/new monsters.
You can nick name whatever you want, its not like anyone else is gonna hear you.

>y do the best and most fun to watch Yea Forums players like Muri and Ryukishi not play a good MH like 4?
its dead

Lao Shan Lung is a moldy old relic from gen 1 that is literally only there to appeal to japanese nostalgiafags, he's always been one of the worst fights in the series

are we in this thread now

Hello, i'm here for leaks

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They should just rework him so he actually fights you

i really dont get why people cry about old large bosses

you really want to fight the same small monsters over and over? how are any of the other large bosses any better?

atalka does not count.

>ride boat shoot shit at dumb sand faggot
>swim underwater hit dumb water faggot
>stare at giant turd and wait for spiky ADHD retard to fly down and bother you
they are supposed to be seige fights the monsters are fucking HUGE, do you know how to program anything? every game with giant bosses has been utter shit. even SOTC is mostly a puzzle fight. actually trying to slash at those bosses would be a painful experience.
just enjoy the fact that monster hunter manages to change the pace of the game well enough that it doesnt completely remove you from the experience

try making something for once you no-skill brainlet

Gogmazios is living proof that they can make giant monsters not garbage since he actively fights you
But i wouldn't expect a temperature room IQ creature like you to even know who he is

Yikes!
Gogmazios and Dahren were the best siege/large monster fights.

>DUDE PROGRAMMING IS HAAARD
How about you do your fucking job instead of half hassing it like a pussy then

how do you half hass something

FUCK YOU YOU STUPID BEHEMOTH CUNT

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Jhen is a good large boss. Dalamadur is okay.

The rest are facutlaly boring damage sponges you shouldn't defend

> playing MHW
> keep missing MHGU
why do I also want to go back to the old monster hunter bros

i got a list for you

>tutorial behemoth
So what.

Not too far back though.

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>spoiling yourself by using one of the final boss monsters as the OP pic
What a shame, OP.

Good thing it's a 3 phase fight.

DESOLE...

Basarios is a good big boss. Same with Gammoth.

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The Mohrans are the only siege fights that are well paced between shooting, meleeing the back, interrupting attacks, and the last frantic push in the final showdown beat them back with whatever you have left, this comes at the cost of the fight being heavily scripted and easy to memorize, which gets dull over repeated encounters

Zorah's melee and siege phases are too separated and make the fight feel more slow and repetitive, he doesn't attack the fort very often(since there's only one reliable way to stop him) and he doesn't have enough breakables to be fun to shoot at

Lao and Shen don't have any particular behaviors or phases to concern yourself with, so they end up being dull fucking HP sponges where the main threat is getting DPS tunnel vision and forgetting to defend the fort

The other extra huge monsters are fought largely on foot with your weapons and are only concerned with fighting you and not a big object that needs to be defended so I don't really consider them "siege" monsters like those guys

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Gogmazios is proof 90% of the player base was carried through G. He's so fucking easy and yet as soon as he hits the engage phase 3 people instantly cart to beam. Farming the event armor was a nightmare.

THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES

>MHF is ending
It hurts so much

>a boohoo I got paired with a bunch of shitters

THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGMENT CALL

gear Rex return when

why can't collab monsters just be relatively normal?
>aggro mechanic
>doesn't scale down
I like ff14 and mhw both but fuck the behemoth collab. Leshen's much better.

How populated is MHGU these days?

It's dead, Jim.

I've only played world but:
Customisation is pretty good, story is pants, monsters have plenty of nicknames but you can always add more.

The story is probably the dumbest thing about MHW. Literally from start to finish it is more and more contrived reasons to go out and slaughter as many living things as you can find.

Still active and kicking despite what /mhg/ will try to get you to believe.

Holy shit you're terrible.
0 spatial awareness
>HMM YES LETS STAND IN FRONT OF A MONSTER THAT IS GOING TO SLAM RIGHT ON TOP OF ME

Plenty of people.

Being the one who answered an SOS flare, I feel deep, visceral shame to ever cart.

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I'm getting 3 pages of open hubs so I'd say its still populated.

>joining the Behemoth repel quest EVER

I still don't understand what carted the hunter here. They had their shield up and unlimited stamina while also blocking a flashstep wind attack, so did the Narga get behind the shield for a hit?

>mechanic makes you stand still behind a comet
>stand still behind a comet
>get punished for it
>LMAO GIT GUD

How do I become like ryukishi?

I'm no expert on frontiershit, but my guess is the final hit deadangled around the shield and effectively hit from behind, because the hitbox spawned behind the player model.
That or the hunter just let go of the block too early trying to counter-attack before the monster hitbox completely disappeared. You can never tell withfrontiershit AoE and all the visual garbage on blocking the screen.

You'd be surprised on how many scrubs can manage to fail that quest with 8 fucking carts.
I think I'm not the only one just playing just for the pleasure of it and answering random SOS flares in order to feel like I'm contributing to something that will probably come biting everyone in the ass since shitters will just get carried to Iceborne MR that way.

My guess would be that because these monsters can't ever come back, it'd feel like a waste to basically make them normal monsters, so they give them mechanics that they'd never consider giving to anything usually.

I can't answer that question. I've never even played Monster Hunter and don't know who or what ryukishi is. Sorry I can't help. Good luck.

I mean why the fuck wouldn't you join an actual Behemoth slaying quest? You get nothing out of repel, and it's just boring first phase.

>3 phase
It's 5 phases.
1 phase on foot, Ahtal-Ka wields an i-beam bar
1 phase against the Neset
1 phase on foot again, Ahtal-Ka switches to a dragonator to wield
1 phase against the Neset again, destroying it
1 final phase on foot, Ahtal-Ka now brought out the Neset's flywheel as a weapon and spams dragonators

>>Has the customization of the character/monster?
yes, there's character customization
>>Interesting story?
There's a lot of lore but it's buried and you won't encounter it in game. Suffised to say there are monsters, and you as a liscenced hunter are part park ranger part animal wrangler and your job is to cull their numbers so they don't destroy settlements or upset the ecosystem
>should I nickname monster
you can name your palico? which is a little cat partner you get

the gameplay in MH is somewhat repetitive, and might seem boring or oppressive if you don't enjoy the feedback loop. It's action combat in third person but it feels more akin to a fighting game than anything else, your hunter has set combos and manuevers they can perform with inputs, and reading the 'tells' of the monster is important. On the strategic layer, every monster will have weaknesses, be they elemental or certain tools or weapons that work best on them.

You take a quest, you hunt the monster, you harvest it's bodyparts, you make or upgrade equipment with it. The best stuff sometimes requires farming/grinding. This is the essential loop.

>Not learning proper comet and tornado placement
get good you fucking shitter

Palicos are Felynes/Melynxes, who are part of the Lynian monster genus.

>just got done with a MH session that lasted for 8 hours straight
Oh god please help me

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I have enough Behemoth mats to craft several sets, and getting your quest interrupred because some retard triplecarted in the exact same way can get tiresome, so I just join random SOS.

actually, i made a few drachen pieces from joining that quest back when i was a shitter and couldnt clear behe more than once.

There were 4 comets too in normal behemoth and he chose the one right in front of behemoth You have good 20 seconds to choose in the baby behemoth repel jesus christ.

You're not the only one, mine lasted 10 hours Who the fuck needs to sleep anyways

You can avoid getting pushed out from behind the comet by jumping too. It not only lets you avoid the Ecliptic Meteor, but also Behe's paw slam.

Worst part about it all is that i've been awake for 22 hours already and had been busy for a good 12 hours of those 22, good thing i dont have anything important to do tomorrow.

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Post Ryukishi fags Youtube so I can give everything a thumbs down again

WHAT THE FUCK *IS* THE GUIDING LANDS?!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is it a second region or something else? The devs were asked in an interview before, and they said Hoarfrost Reach was the only new map. Did they lie to keep it secret?

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Any nigger that can't be bothered to do the slightest research into a game and comes straight here asking for spoonfeeding should fucking kill himself

What’s even the difference between Felynes and Melynxes?

>Did they lie to keep it secret?
Definitively, yeah, but it might be a smaller map

I know that. I clear BeheX every day with my friend.
The OP did not.

dare I say
AMEN
BASED

Mostly breed, fur pattern, and tribe mentality. Felynes get along well with hunters and can integrate into hunter society very easily. Wild tribes of Felynes are almost never hostile, unless the quest calls for you to defeat a certain number of them. Melynxes have darker-colored fur and tend to be thieves, often openly hostile to hunters in the wild and often integrate poorly into society (but not all do). Generations/Ultimate lets you search by fur pattern, so you can recruit Felynes or Melynxes as you wish.

It's most likely not a true major area like Hoarfrost Reach. It's probably either an arena-like area similar to Confluence of Fates, or something like the towers from previous games.

That particular attack hits from behind at the end. Though I'm not sure if it was buffed by then, Guard Up (which is a Zenith skill) enabled 360° blocking at some point which is largely safe by comparison, and only trips players who are struck from behind.

GL has to survive chip damage though, Lance doesn't.

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Ryukishi..... i need to ....

Yet another huge ass tower, fits the "guiding" part because it's an enormous landmark. Expect Xeno'jiiva's act 2 being trying to turn the place into an elder dragon moth trap.

It can't be just an arena, there are too many achievements related to it.

>Melynxes are darker furred and also thieves
The joke is so obvious I can’t bring myself to make it.

>Customization
At 1st you’re kind of limited then towards 100+ hours and you unlock Transmog you’re customization choices are why different
Enjoy your slut armor that’s still S tier
>Story
Story? Monster hunter? Lol
>Sup Niggy Mchunter I need you to slay 2 Khezus because that blind dick looking faggot pisses me off
>Nickname a monster
Sure you can do what you want

>ps4 underagies avoiding threads because scared of 'spoilers'
>threads suddenly civil and comfy

Hmmmmm

There’s a sense of community because people actually communicate and hunt together for +2 hours at a time

Pretty much any time I turn it on there’s several rooms to hop into.
A room will fill up within 10-15 minutes normally

Excuse me. I'm also a nostalgia fag for gen one and I'm not Japanese. I'll throw a fit if Rathalos ever isn't in.

I’m firm on saying Monster Hunter does not need a story just
>I have 250,000 Z go hunt this dragon and I’ll give it to you

Despite what people like to claim, the jump between 4th gen and 5th gen was huge and some of the old charm of the series was definitely lost in that jump.

Just fur color mostly

I feel the same way about the jump to gen 3.

Melynxes are literally niggers

World just wasn’t made for actual fans of monster hunter
Just newfags who never played monster hunter

I played from MH1 and I genuinely enjoy world.

thank god Capcom understood they needed to get rid of all those GUabortions to successfully reboot the series

Now now son, ya cant go around saying such silly things. Go back to the room now, its bed time.

>actual fans of monster hunter
Translation: Nintendo enthusiasts* who never played FU

I don’t believe you. Unless you’re favorite game before was fucking Frontier Z
474189859
No (You) for you nigger

>MHGU is "the old monster hunter"
This is 4babs are so much worse than worldbabs.

The original Monster Hunter's are literally the worst in the series.

Cringe

Yikes

I don't really get what you're going for here. I already had my tantrum about change with Tri. I fucking hated Gen 3 but I accepted the change and moved on.
I guess that's your decision. Honestly I had more issues with gen and I'm just glad to be done with handhelds. I fucking hate handhelds. Also I've been a lancegod from day one and World Lance is amazing.

>Cringe
>Yikes
This is why 4babs are so much worse than worldbabs.

I was being sarcastic with the bedtime remark. Yea Forums would just call you a contrarian or a retard for not following the hivemind of old good new bad.

>4babs
Rent free.

>Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo
Geez you underaged faggots are like a broken record
It was an exclusive for what
8 years? And 4 games?
I highly doubt you played FU for that long because even I didn’t
I had my PSP and played so much monster hunter I had to get my control stick replaced twice.

You would have to be retarded to skip FU and Tri, and then decide to that the 240p handheld game is the right time to start the series. This is why 4fags are despised.

>It was an exclusive for what
>8 years? And 4 games?
Yes, the franchise was held hostage on shitty consoles for almost a decade. And it ruined the fanbase.

I played 3U (Wii U), 4U and Gen, and I like World. It has it's flaws like being fucking easy for the most part and not having individual hunt lists for solo and multiplayer, and the way multiplayer is set up in the hub is retarded, but I like the new stuff they did. SOS flares, wishlists, item loadouts, picking things up while moving when it's a single item, monsters interacting with each other and so on are all great additions to the game and make it feel more polished and alive.

Let them seethe in their corner. Genuinely enjoying World as a grandpa is the only victory you need over their salty tears. You get to enjoy the pending content and future releases, they won't.

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PSP resolution wasn't that much higher, but whatever fits your narrative I guess.

I never cared for separate village quests.

Just stop replying to anti handheld fag
Anyone who anyone knows that’s where the series flourished because for a long time online gaming wasn’t on par as it is today

The PSP came out in 2005. The 3DS came out in 2011. And the 3DS games had worse graphics.
How embarrassing.

and by charm I mean retarded anime shit

good riddance but unfortunately world still has plenty of it

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The series grew the most with 2nd gen and World. Saying it "flourished" on the 3DS is wrong, and thank god there will never be another 3DS game. And probably not another Switch game.

I'm not that guy but I almost dropped the series when it went handheld after starting on the ps2. Some people just don't like handhelds. Glad I didn't though.

>tfw grandpa
>tfw playing since the legendary horrible decision of capcom to make right analog do shit
>tfw enjoying world
I'm just waiting for IB, lads

>Quoting shit that wasn't even remotely implied in the post

PSP MH came way before DS MH, had better res, and arguably better controls. You'd expect improvement as the series goes on. Would you be happy with the next MH being a mobile phone exclusive, 140p, 15 FPS title?
I played both, and never got my thumbs or eyes hurting after a hunt with the PSP, nor did I have to resort to retarded grips either.

The fuck?
In what timeline?

Old monster hunter fags were animal crossing fags and they’re considered the nicest fanbase despite being huge furfags so much so there’s Monster Hunter x Animal crossing cross promotional stuff

Well then I’m happy you got fucked for 8 years
I’m surprised you just didn’t complete forget about the series then

>4th gen are "Old monster hunter fags"
This is why you are so despised, 4fags.

How funny, looks like the tides finally turned, 11 million copies sold will likely change Capcom's mind about handheld exclusive.
MH's future is bright for us, can you say the same?

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Where are the leaks

>And it ruined the fanbase

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>I hate World. We need to go back to the old Monster Hunter!

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>11
13

I don't mind World's changes since I never cared much about MH's gameplay to begin with. I just like seeing the monsters in HD, on the big screen.

>good riddance but unfortunately world still has plenty of it
At least you have the balls to admit it.

pm me when /mhg/ leaves

Actions tied to right stick was cool

>non comfy MH thread

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shut up, true veterans enjoyed the amazing 3ds visuals.

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I can't, this thread isn't going anywhere, I'll be taking my leave soon too.

>will likely change Capcom's mind about handheld exclusive
This was dumb from the get go. Fuck them for not at least putting 4U on the PiiU as well.

>All the soifags leaving

Then I claim this thread in the name of the old guard. Let us ignore everything released after MHFU and once and for all discuss which is the hardest monster.

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I can't imagine why anyone thinks handheld improved the series in any way. It's nearly unplayable on handhelds because they're too small and underpowered. Literally the only reason it was on handheld in the first place is because Japanese people are too overworked to come home to consoles.

3 Bullfangos in one area

So you dropped it as soon as it hit psp?

This is now a Overdrive Valstrax thread.

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hardest monster in MHFU is probably what you posted. also yama tsukami with melee is a pain in the ass.

Because World's content isn't up to snuff in comparison to what Generations Ultimate provides. Plus despite being highly controversial the styles and hunting arts add variety into how you hunt, allowing you to do things that wouldn't be possible in any other game.

A better question is why are you so quick to abandon the former way Monster Hunter was done? I have over 400 hours in World and I still return to games like Freedom 2 and Unite on occasion because there's still enjoyment to be found in them and even now I switch between GU and World almost weekly. Just go back and play the older games if you get a craving. It's all Monster Hunter at the end of the day.

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I played them still, I just bitched and moaned the whole time and emulated them when possible. I have a 3ds just for 4u and gen.

more like too Overworked to be in IB Valstrax

But FU was a garbage game with the worst flagship in the series

>It's nearly unplayable on handhelds
Sounds like a personal problem baby hands. Cope.

Well kinda. It was made to be more accessible, so the incredibly dense mechanics of MonHun were either softened up, or just explained. I started all the way back on MonHun 2 and understanding what the fuck was going on was so difficult since the game tells you nothing of any importance.

>Boosts attack
>Greatly boosts attack

Yeah but HOW MUCH? is it 10% and 30%? Or is it 30% and 60%?

Whether you like it or not, bringing in new players is always a good thing. The base combat is the same, with slight changes, like instead of healing in a chunk you now heal slowly, but can walk slowly at the same time. The only valid complaint about World is there are nowhere near enough monsters

>I can't imagine why anyone thinks handheld improved the series in any way
Because they started the series with it. Or, they invested a lot of time in the 3DS games and have to justify it.

im gonna play this again after i clear XX on my switch

It’s because they started with the 3DS games. They aren’t bad games at all but going handheld only was the wrong direction for the series, but they don’t have any frame of reference for that.

Just walk left dude.

Terra Shogun was always infamous.

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People were guzzling FU's cum for years so they clearly never had a problem with handheld

>why are you so quick to abandon the former way Monster Hunter was done?
You should have asked that to the devs of 4th gen.

>Hardest monster
Guard-Up always turned every monster of the entire franchise into a joke.

>I have a 3ds just for 4u and gen
>transfer gen save to GU
>thank fuck, I no longer have to go back to the 3DS
>realize 4u is stuck on the 3DS
It isn't fair.

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>Whether you like it or not, bringing in new players is always a good thing
As long as you don't have to compromise what made the game great to begin with. World wanted to bring in people who didn't like MH to begin with.
>The base combat is the same
There's more to a game than its basic mechanics. What made MH special were its nuances. World is just like any other casual modern action game, just without lock-on.

how do you gaurd with a long sword

i started playing on the psp with mhf1.
the only mh i didnt play was tri.
i think the game got better with every entry, even though generations/x changed the gameplay up quite a bit.
world combat is faster, but i like that change.
i can also understand why people prefer the combat pre-world, which was slower and felt more turnbased.

You can transfer 3ds gen files to a switch xx?

I actually like KT apart from the pursuit grind.
The fight itself is fun and soloing is quite challenging, if you don't use bow(gun) for ez status.

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I don't even know what to say to people like you anymore. I'm just done with how wrong a person can be

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MHGU isn't classic monster hunter though

>A better question is why are you so quick to abandon the former way Monster Hunter was done?
That is a great question.

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You go into the menu, pick "Abandon Quest" and pick a good weapon.

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Briefly, but I caved and came back for FU. That's what I meant by almost. I was hoping the handheld shit was temporary.

But there is lock-on in World

>World
>MH
not really.
Baiting aside I really don't know why I stopped playing World at 55 hours, like I cleared behemoth, got drachen armor, explored all the maps, and got all the felyne weapons except the one in Elder's Recess. Even in vanilla 4 I clocked 120~ish hours. In World I'm still HR 43 after doing all that.

>We went from "Monster Hunter will never go back to consoles!" to "Monster Hunter will never go back to handhelds!"
Good to know consolefags learned nothing from the folly of handheldfags. I look forward to seeing another gaggle of cocky little shits get BTFO by Capcom in the future, and to seeing the cycle repeat itself over and over for years to come.

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KT is a fun fight, her design is neat (even if it's not exactly outstanding), she has some cool attacks and her roar is magnificent. Overall a pretty cool monster but the grind doesn't work in her favour.

As long as the gen file is JP. . I don't think it'll recognize it if its anything else.

>The 3DS games* wanted to bring in people who didn't like MH to begin with.
FTFY

world brought back lots of people who avoided the series when it was 3ds exclusive.

How am I wrong then?
Besides, World is just the culmination of a series of awful changes that have been happening since as early as Tri. The series has been going downhill for about a decade.

You could maybe emulate it. That's most of my gen 2 play time and all of my gen 3 playtime.
I disagree personally. The base monhun combat is what I love about the series. Quirks like flexing or the meat song are neat but not what keep me coming back year after year.

Tigrex, easily. When you first run into him you won't have the gear or skills to consistently stagger, and in G-rank they get so fucking big that you can't run to the side to dodge their charge. And forget using something like an LS.

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The PSP is objectively well designed though and for 2008 standards it ran well.

For what fucking purpose

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I really think youre overstating the changes. I will agree World is not as good as previous games, but its a pretty small difference. As i said, my only real complaint that i cant smooth over is how there are barely any monsters here. And i miss Seltas, i want my Seltas back. The way you're talking is that they made an entirely different game, like that made MonHun into DMC or something. Its very small changes

Stop trying to make this about console wars. MHW was explicitly aimed at newcomers to the series, and designed to appeal to players coming from western AAA games.

Well, if capcom dislike sales, they will go back to handheld while not making any games for consoles. But we do know that capcom likes sales, and they like them a lot.
It's just logical.

Not really, it's a garbage brick like the 3ds
But since Sony made it i guess it's flawless

Who gives it a shit if there's another handheld game. It won't be exclusive to handhelds ever again.
That was always the problem, it was being held hostage on a shit handheld, and retards like (You) defended it.

>turn based

no its because the limitations were what you had to master of your weapon, now you just fucking bing bing wahoo the monster in the fucking face until it flinches 50 times while a rathalos kindly hits it for 3000 damage and your 1080p scout flies fart all over the screen as you clear your piss easy or literally unplayable quest.

someone posted a lance video in here recently and i think i will try that with iceborn because it looks like they didnt completely ruin everything about the fucking weapon.

weapons being cumbersome was fantastic design choice. HUNTERS are supposed to be weaker than MONSTERS

>The way you're talking is that they made an entirely different game
They really did though. The lesser commitment to your actions, the more fluid monster movement and the changes it necessitated to telegraphs and hitboxes, the ability to dodge backwards, the reduced recovery on evades, all of these things completely transformed the game.

the PSP came out in 2005 and MHFU had great graphics for its time.
The 3DS came out in 2011 and had horrific 240p graphics, worse than the PSP. It's absolutely embarrassing.

Fuck yeah!
Jet dragon!

1st and 2nd gen = boomer MH
3rd and 4th gen = bing bing MH
5th and probably 6th gen = zoomer MH

Capcom is retarded? These are the same dipshits who released XX as GU to west exclusively on the Switch then proceeded to keep it capped at the 30fps despite clearly having no plans to bring the 3DS version over as well.

>game was good because it was a problem riddled and unpolished turd
is this how Stockholm syndrome reads like?

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>55 hours
are you me?

i got a switch last week and i already have 38 hours in XX

How is the 4cm tall screen and 240p resolution a hands problem?

You actually completely misunderstand W's aim, it's a mix of keeping the old fanbase (that's the Japanese, they don't give a shit about the Western fanbase, you/we were never considered their "core" and it's time you guys actually deal with this) which it did, and bringing in new people, which it also did. It's a spectacular success in terms of business practices, where only very minor parts (that being a few people in the West) were alienated and a shitton of new people were brought on. It's funny how people here are too salty to actually realise that but instead just think it's "aimed at the Western casuals".

And they're all positive changes. So go fuck yourself.

>Quirks like flexing or the meat song are neat but not what keep me coming back year after year
Normally I'd agree with you but old MH had so much soul it's really charismatic even with the shit graphics
UDON-YA even stopped doing MH doujins because of World I assume

>mounting
>verticality
>styles
>camera that knows where the monster is
>gacha RNG

The 3DS games transformed the games even worse, and added the worst mechanics.

>MHFU had great graphics for its time
MHFU looked absolutely fucking horrendous, how much Sony sperm are you smoking?

@474189776
@474191573

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they probably hard coded the frame rate to something and was impossible to get it to 60 fps

OR the switch couldnt handle the high res textures at 60fps which is likely some of those textures look at or above 4K

You used to be able to shit on monsters just as hard by walking 2 steps to the right to force them to turn into your attacks. The power difference between hunters and monsters is the same as it ever was, besides specific HP values maybe but those fluctuate like crazy from game to game anyways. And I certainly remember people bitching about the higher than normal monster HP in 3U

>The base monhun combat is what I love about the series
For me its not so much the combat but I hope next game they drop the "open world" meme and go back to arenas.

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>camera that knows where the monster is
Oh good, it's this retard again

For a handheld game on a 2005 system, it looked fine.
It is absolutely embarrassing that the 3DS games had worse graphics than the PSP games.

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Whats wrong with verticality? Ill agree with you about mounting though. Its interesting and fun, but there should be a limit to how many times you can do it, or else the game devolves into doing jumping attacks over and over again

Why are you so angry. Calm down and think rationally. Your insane headcanon means less than dirt to us

Japan got the Switch port of XX too, like 6+ months earlier, it wasn't NA/EU exclusive

>muh handheld
No, it looked hot garbage just like the 3ds games, stop shilling for Sony's horrible consoles

I didn't know Monster Hunter was about watching animations. All of those things just mean you can spend more time actually fighting the monster than drinking potions.

i think youre replying to the wrong post

Did you seriously just give me "lol u mad"

It does look horrendous, but you have to remember that all handheld games looked like that back then. It was probably my favourite one though, Nargacuga and Tigrex are fantastic monsters. Thats the only reason im considering getting Iceborne

>It's funny how people here are too salty to actually realise that but instead just think it's "aimed at the Western casuals".
But they literally admitted this much in an interview. Their goal was to make a game with worldwide appeal that could also attract western console playing audiences, and to approach a Monster Hunter game completely ignoring feedback from existing fans and seeing what someone who's totally new to the series would want.
Predictably, their playtesting results basically amounted to "where's the lock on" "why is there no health bar" "why is this big sword so slow"

Things like the emphasis on forcing the player to stand still as little as possible, the damage numbers, smoother movement, on screen control guide, voiced tutorials and the new gunner controls were all done to make the game more familiar to these sorts of players. The more reactive style of gameplay over the old "turn based" style, however, wasn't, that's something they've been wanting to do since Tri.

i agree with world being easier, that trend started with generations. lets see if iceborne fixes that.

>Whats wrong with verticality?
It ruins many of the older monsters who weren't designed for it. And it makes monster attack patterns in general not as good.

Not really. Only one weapon can jump. Jump attacks are opportunistic for when the monster approaches a ledge, and as we all know it poses a massive risk because ledges will fuck your shit.

>that could ALSO
>ALSO
You actually get it but you still refuse to admit that.
I'm amazed at how dense you people are.

Yes, I agree, you should be able to roll out of attack animations at any time. I don't want to have to think about what I'm doing.

Graphics have nothing to do with design, even if Tigrex and Narga were excellent design wise the console still made them look like premature fetuses

Actually the trend started with MHFU. P3rd is still the easiest MH game ever made, World only coming in second.

the target cam is OP and it was introduced by the nintendo games.

>doujin artist stopped doing doujins because of world!
Christ. You people are insane.
He "stopped" doing mh doujin because fate grand order doujins sells far more. And if he sees that a female armor got popular in iceborne he'll draw a doujin of it. He cares less about mh than you think.

Post a screenshot of PSP MH that looks worse.

Every game after 4U increased monster mounting resistance by a lot. Hard to tell in XX since Aerial style exists but from 4U to World it went from like
>First mount: 2 hits with any weapon -> 3+ hits even on GS, more in multiplayer
>Subsequent mounts: 3 extra hits each time -> 5+ extra hits each time,more in multiplayer

His pea brain can't deal with arenas that aren't flat surfaces

Nintendo handhelds were never cutting edge. Like the OG gameboy that had puke green screen with no backlight when Sega Game gear had full colors on a backlit screen. They also burned themselves with gamecube where it lost to less powerful ps2. Now tendies have to suffer with subpar hardware that focuses on gimmicks. Also, I hope people in the alternative timeline are enjoying MH on vita.

Verticality made the game easier.

Go play anything that's not SnS and try spewing that shit again
And rolling out of recovery animations has been a thing since at least the PSP games so I dunno what the fuck you're going on about

>spacial awareness is OP
The actual insanity of Sony shills

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Yes, they didn't want to alienate the existing players by making something completely unlike MH. However, they also admitted afterwards that in their attempts to appeal to new players, they made the game too easy for the existing players, and they had to shoehorn in content like ATs post launch to keep them satisfied. Iceborne is basically them apologizing for that.

>styles
Oh, great. You're one of those ass clowns. Lemmie guess, you think styles is gonna be in the next game, right?

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The target cam doesn't require spatial awareness. It knows where the monster is and does all the work for you.
In the old games, you had to manually adjust the camera.

Monsters having retarded AI and walking into your lv3 charges made the game easier
Which is what happened everytime you fought something in FU

>Nintendo handhelds were never cutting edge
FUCKING THANK YOU

>Nintendo handhelds were never cutting edge. Like the OG gameboy that had puke green screen with no backlight when Sega Game gear had full colors on a backlit screen.
To be fair Game Gear also chewed through AA batteries like a fat kid at a chinese buffet so I can see why they didn't go for that at the time.

>literally only 2 fgo doujins in the past 4 years
sure bro, his doujins are always what's popular

There is no spacial awareness required if the camera does the targeting for you, brainlet.

>"spacial" awareness
retarded ESL poster

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Half of the new weapon moves are taken from either styles or arts so

You both seem to have made the mistake of thinking that I was saying that Monster Hunter would become handheld exclusive again, rather than that it will inevitably have more handheld instalments just as it will inevitably have more console instalments. Assuming that either one will stop is utter foolishness, that's not how this series has ever operated.

World lets you 1-hit mount monsters even in Master Rank. I'm guessing it's because they don't want players to have to spam aerial attacks to get a mount, and they instead just want it to be something you can score reliably as long as you're in the right situation for it. Rather than increasing initial thresholds they instead seem to focus on increasing resistance buildup and how long mounts take to complete.

man if you love it that much go play the old games instead of shit posting here, no one cares, you are literally larping in a chinese anonymous rice farming forum, no one cares about your opinion and your voice will never be heard

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Fuck you the meat song is the shit.
>Mhmmm So tasty!

As a grandpa I kind of like the new level style. It reminds me of gen 1 and 2 a bit. Needs refinement though.
I get it, and I don't necessarily think it was a good change, just not a super important one.

>spacial
the absolute state of nintensharts.
and no, an easy automatic camera is the opposite of spatial awareness.

Nobody is arguing that the 3ds wasn't garbage hardware, there are just people saying that the PSP also was garbage(iy was)

You still have to if you want to play optimally. It's not the game's fault if you resort to crutches.

>literally gloating that someone else doesn't get to keep having the thing they like
What went so wrong in your life?

Uhh did you meant to reply to the other guy

Except I'm not just talking about Gen 4, I'm encompassing all the previous games as the former style, since they are. That aside, about the only real controversial mechanic was the introduction of mounting, which they fixed in Generations, but then decided to fuck up again in World. Styles and Arts aren't a big deal either since Generations/Ultimate was built to be a side game and dumping ground with the sole purpose of being for shits and giggles. Though it's understandable why people hate it because World's current weapon movesets seem to integrated certain aspects from styles and arts.

Also Gen 4 added in some new monsters, some of which I want brought back in last Gen 6 going forward regardless of how 'hard' it is to implement their skeletons.

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Vertical open world maps remind you of gen 1-2?

>refuses to bring over oils and double notes
Why is the MH team so fucking retarded holy shit GIVE ME MY FUCKING OIL

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>It's not the games fault if it gives you OP things that make the game easier
It is the game's fault.

>In the old games, you had to manually adjust the camera.
How is that a challenge? I didn't even realise there was a lock-on in World until HR150+, and I can't bring myself to use it, it feels more like an inconvenience than anything else. If anything, free camera letw you havr more control over your character's moves and attack angle.

I am. The 3DS ran 3U at 60fps, while the PS4 Pro can't run World in 60fps.

Framerates are, of course, a million times more important for an action game than graphical fidelity. Don't bother replying if you are going to try and argue against this because I will 100% guaranteed ignore you.

I am not gloating at all, I am just telling you how it is, you are like that one crying baby in a plane, just plain annoying.

They hated Jesus too because he told the truth

Manually adjusting the camera is more difficult than the game telling you where the monster is.

>Camera controls that aren't shit are OP
Have you considered that the reason they included the target camera at all was because the devs never intended for there to be any difficulty derived from how the camera functions?

>As a grandpa I kind of like the new level style.
>It reminds me of gen 1 and 2 a bit
>open world ledge shitfest
>gen 1 and 2

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Tbh I can't go back to old maps after World, classic maps are either tiny hallways full of invisible walls the monster slides along or wide open wastelands where you spend half the hunt chasing after monster as it charges back and forth from one end to the other, and 4th gen maps are just full of garbage ledges. World's more compact but not claustrophobic zones and implementation of verticality are a complete improvement, I just don't like the shitty hallways in between.

That's like blaming the kitchen for containing the knife you used to stab yourself. Are you that weakwilled?

It is written in the Plaques of Destiny that the only game where SNS isn't hot fucking trash should be X/XX
>inb4 but sns is good in World

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>MH on Vita
Why did you have to remind me that the Vita would have been the perfect console for handheld MH, and yet it got ignored.

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World runs at 144hz on PC. Nice try.

Yeah I just realized that

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You can get like twice as many skills om your armor as before just equip Partbreaker or Crit Eye or whatever
The only thing you're actually missing is KO Oil and that shit was busted

Clunkiness good when Sony does it

You like shit and have bad taste, you deserve nothing.

SnS was actually pretty hot trash in X. It was lower on the tier list than it was in 4U.

It's by far the best weapon in the original. And in 3U certain fire-weak monsters don't stand a chance against the Golden Radius.

Blame Sony for letting it die

>Manually adjusting the camera is "shit" and too hard!
This is why the Nintendo games caused terminal cancer in the fanbase.

Gen 3 and 4 were small arenas linked together for the most part. 2 and especially 1 had bigger zones . I'll never forget Kutku charging me through dense foliage. I never had that experience after gen 2.

After a few patches, but yes. The PC is better than the PS4 Pro and 3DS.

The PC version ran at 5-7 FPS on release when fighting the ayylmao.

I do.

gen 1/2 had bigger areas than the nintendo games. also world is less vertical than 4th gen.

>the original
We don't talk about the original MH and whatever the fuck those weapons were

>Actually replying to the autists repeating the same tired arguments they've been having for a month

...

You should. MH isn't about anime combos or grappling hooks; it's about killing dragons by hitting them with a slab of iron.

>What's a long sword
>What are dual blades

>Stop talking about things I don't like

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No thanks, i'll keep playing games that aren't garbage

Neither of those were in the original MH.

I started with World and I don’t think I ever used the lock on despite knowing it existed. The game still feels much better to play with manual camera aiming, it’s not exactly hard to keep track of big ass monsters.

>Implying I started with World

I'm certain that at some point, "MH on Vita" came to their mind. Whether it's Sony's fault for not shelling enough cash to get rights or Capcom's because they refused isn't important; I hate this entire timeline equally.

This is another reason why I hate modern MH. The movesets have gotten too fucking bloated. I want to go back to the simplicity of old MH.

Lance was iirc. But I haven't played since like 2005.

These fags aren't here to be convinced nor will they convince anyone with their retarded rambling

Lance has never been better and I've been a Lancegod since day 1.

who is stopping you? go back and never come back, please

I hear they're closing down Flappy Bird so you better hurry.

Pick Striker in MHGU and don't equip any arts. Or just don't use the new moves in World.

Only Longsword and Bow have gained/changed a ton since the first 2 games

imagine a world where, after 3U, the series went to PC. Damn, we would have probably gotten an RE engine game instead of World.

Manually adjusting the camera WAS shit on the 3DS, that's why the target camera was included at all.

The 3DS (and new 3DS) couldn't run 4U at 60. GenU runs at 30fps on 3DS and switch carries that over. I agree framerates are important, but don't blame the hardware for (at least partial) dev incompetency.

Reminded me of this

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>Manually adjusting the camera WAS shit on the 3DS
Correct, the 3DS had terrible controls and was a horrible system.

Yeah but 4U is shit. I said 3U.

Do you need a Q-tip?

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>Long sword and dual blades weren't in original MH
OH NO NO NO NO oldfag LARPer detected
youtu.be/ZOqS6S8eCpM

Remember, every Monster Hunter is good!
Except the ones before FU holy fucking shit those games are pure fucking garbage i'm so glad they're dead and will never come back

>old MH
The style of old MH is gone forever. Enjoy your over the top weapons with helm splitter, SAED and air combo glaive. Enjoy half the armors looking like they come out of some korean MMO instead of fitting the atmosphere usually seen on official posters and artwork. Enjoy monster designs like Gore Magala, Glavenus, Xenojiva and Valstrax.

It's what people want.

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WHY DOES THE LONGSWORD HAVE GREATSWORD SWEEPS

Agreed, half the people that pretend they were good never even played them.

I'd rank FU, 3U and 4U as perfect, Dos as good, MH1 and P3rd as bad and XX + World as accursed games that should never be discussed ever.

>4u
>perfect
lmfao

>Implying any of that is bad

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>I hate this entire timeline equally
I wouldn't give up on it just yet. At the moment we're in a rough spot. We have GU on the Switch and Iceborne being the G Rank World title makes sense to continue having it stick the PS4, Xbone, and PC. The future is unknown and after we finally ind out next after Iceborne we'll finally have an idea of where the franchise is headed but for now, just enjoy this. Every console has a monster hunter title. Everyone is able to hunt on a system of their choice. This isn't really the ideal situation because of all the knots and shit that came along with it but it could be much worse.

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you thick muppet LS and DB were introduced in the western version of MH the original Japanese version didn't have them.

Nice job moving those goalposts

The whole "raise ecology of any region to lvl 7" trophy seems to be specific to Guiding Lands, because it has the same icon as the "reach the Guiding Lands" icon, as well as the fact that nobody who finished the main story got it before actually discovering the Guiding Lands in the first place. So it seems that whatever Guiding Lands is, it has multiple regions to it.

B-but Nintendo...

Yes they were in the G version which was Japanese exclusive, and you suck off G rank for the difficulty so you should like it, right?

>camera that knows where the monster is
You mean the soft lock on that compensates for the fact 3DS users can't claw? Unless the player puts a Dpad on their touch screen, how the fuck else are they going to manage the camera without it being awkward as fuck? Now why World still has it is anyone's guess as it doesn't have that problem.

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This guy knows what's up.

>Every new gen should be the exact same game, with the exact same playstyle, monsters, and content
That doesn't makr any sense, why would they bother make a new game if it has nothing new? All changes aren't absolutr positives ones, but change is always better than absolute stagnation.

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>cliffs were awfully implemented
>styles were awfully implemented, and should come back but without the over-reaching mechanics like adept dodge, valor defense, ariel jump.
>healing while moving is complete shite
>too much upkeep through items (world solved some of that) using non-healing items while moving is fine
>mounting was a mistake but i dont think you try to make a game less interesting so we will just have to endure it
>neset gear in XX was a mistake
>skill system in W is a huge fucking mistake
>mantles are a fucking mistake
>grappling onto monsters faces is fucking retarded
>making weapons easier was a huge fucking mistake
>open world is BADLY implemented
>loading screens between areas are way too fucking long, and if they come back should be MINIMIZED to near nil
>fucking dust instead of blood
>animations in world are garbage
>forced story mode
>hunting arts are ok but should be way less relevant, and SP is a mistake
>world successfully streamlined gathering but also made it irrelevant
>stupid monster designs like valfalk
>negative status immunity should be removed and negative status' should be slightly reduced (windpressure, poison) items that remove negative status should be removed
>let me be poisoned, let me be exausted from heat, let me be cold from coldness, its interesting.
>remove capturing monsters from the game (hey that means i get less items) shut the fuck up retard
>gunner weapons should be improved to be less boring and OP as fuck in every other game
>remove evade+ skills, revert evade window back to 4/gen whatever
>target cam is fine, idk why you would even bitch about that. use it if you want, i find it worse than L tapping

That 'Guiding Lands' icon is more likely just a generic icon for area-based achievements

MH is best when it isn't casual garbage, yes?

What? You disagree?

3U on 3DS can't even keep the 60 without drops. Wii U port of it runs at like 37fps on average. Tri on Wii was a 30fps game. You can't shit on PS4 for being garbage when capcom can't fucking code.

>fucking SNS oil is dogshit and just makes SNS a DPS rush weapon, sns should be about bombs and utility
>nerf cats, bad players using them as a huge crutch
>remove item dropping support (XX)
>remove power/armor charm (why do we still have these shits)
>nerf max potion/ancient potion
>nerf items like flashbombs instead of making monsters fucking immune
>reduce map size (ancient forest yuck)
>remove box from camp, fast travel, scoutflies, vigorwasp (whatever else im missing)
>add a new weapon that doesnt switch to or from a fucking axe
>remove exhaust, remove stun properties from weapons outside of hammer/GS slap/sns shield
>remove new moves world added to weapons (sns leap, LS weeb charge, hammer spin jump can stay)
>rescale fixed damage for gunlance
>remove SOS flares, remove late join
>add a real fucking hub (fixed in IceMeme)
>add option for legacy sound effects (RE2 remake does this CAPCOM)
>add monsters like crabs, bugs, monkies, snakes, leviathans, frogs
>radial menu is great and other QOL improvements to world EXCLUDING auto item combination(fuck off faggot)
>fix the fucking hit effects,sounds,animations, monster animations, monster effects, lightning, shadows
>how does XX have better shadows and lighting than world
>nerf armor upgrades, its too easy to upgrade and too strong
>armors is tricky issue in general (clown gear, transmog, ect)
>add actual skills to the game instead of just making me immune to shit and giving me +damage +affinity
>maybe seperate skills from armors finally? fucks sake
>no real lategame for 4, XX, W. some worse than others

>stupid monster designs like valfalk
Hey, fuck you.

>Yeah, when our local boogeyman is banned the threads are super comfy!
Holy fucking shit lmao at the sheer dishonesty

yup, the 3DS had really shitty controls.

World, 3U, and GU on Switch all still have it because it complements the manual camera controls perfectly when those are actually usable (at least it did before World).

classic armor skills. classic hud. classic inventory management. classic village/hub split and online play. literal copypaste classic monsters, maps, weapons, armors. ............added styles and arts.

>nope, definitely not classic MH

we tried to warn you but you didnt listen

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Yes, your point?

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Oils are better than nothing, if SNS is supposed to be this grand utility tool weapon why does it have absolutely NOTHING

All of that is better than original MH

Well the local boogeyman isn't banned right now because he's clearly evading again and making the same tired shitposts about target camera being the worst thing to ever happen to the franchise
>324 posts
>60 posters

>if you don't like the 3DS camera you are listfag
This is why everyone hates you, Anti-listfag.

You're in the containment thread, brainlet

Drops to like 45, when fighting multiple monsters, with the 3D on, underwater.

>You can't shit on PS4 for being garbage when capcom can't fucking code.

I can, but I have better reasons for hating the PS4.

i guess i've sort of moved the goal posts? but i'm not the other user, all i'm saying is that LS and DB aren't part of the group of original weapons

memorable games though

Nope. It's the only two trophies it's present on.
And there aren't any area-specific trophies other than those related to the Guiding Lands. Unless you count the one that you get for catching a golden tanuki thing, which are endemic to Hoarfrost exclusively.

hi-res textures and HD resolution @ 30 > potato textures and 240p @ 60

>listfag derails another MH thread into endless console wars
>Yea Forums keeps taking the bait
as expected

You shouldn't have sounded so ass mad then they would've been able to tell you apart from the OP.

If you keep coming into the threads and making the same arguments day after day about how 4/4U changed more about the series than World, that the lock on camera was a massive casualisation of the series, and make it really obvious that it's you every time, then you're probably listfag, yeah.
Bare in mind that I'm not one of those people throwing that label out willy nilly, it's just pretty fucking obvious in this case that it's either listfag or some other shitposter with the same MO.

>remove exhaust, remove stun properties from weapons outside of hammer/GS slap/sns shield
>remove exhaust dmg from HH

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But this is the ONLY MH thread.

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i forgot it existed
can you really blame me?

He disabled the rates already kek

hes not the only one who has those opinions, and people just call everyone who dislikes world "listfag"

ive made several "lists" and dont consider myself list fag because usually when i come around someone else is being called listfag

XX 4U and W all have issues, W has the biggest ones

There is also the cursed land /mhg/

>/mhg/

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Im thinking of buying MHGU and Online again.

Still people online?

>sns should be about bombs and utility
>remove box from camp
Ah yes, sns should be permanently gimped for "utility", like using bombs twice a hunt that deal less damage then a combo, and being unable to restock said bombs.
You're a fucking idiot.

Online will be culled in 4 months

/mhg/

yes because it is impossible to create new bombs

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Fuck Tigrex trannies, bring back Ukanlos

Oddly specific.

>Every new gen should be the exact same game, with the exact same playstyle, monsters, and content
Yes, that's exactly what the post said. Finish elementary school please.

>have to carry twice as many items as a normal weapon to do any kind of damage
>still outclassed by everything
They should just give SnS actual items that cannot be used by any other weapon so it has a reason to exist other than being a laughing stock alongside it's best friends HH and Gunlance

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That still limits you to about 9 Mega Bombs total with the maximum amount of shit you can bring, and bomb damage isn't much compared to SnS normal combo with the correct element or shieldslam spam

here read this guys intelligent post since most video game players are incapable of thought outside of already implemented mechanics

Why do I even bother?

Yeah I was just playing last night

It's pretty embarassing if you unironically believe that.

It's not even about bombs, if the "utility" class runs out of the utility items and can't restock, then they are now just a gimped class.

the dream of comfy MH threads

This all wouldn't be happening if we got some kind of credible leak or announcement

You're missing the point in this case, which is that this particular list of 'opinions' gets posted every time anybody asserts that World changed the formula a lot, in almost the exact same form, and is an obvious attempt to derail discussion.
Most people are sensible and won't get mad at you for criticism, but they will get mad at you for spamming the same disingenuous criticisms over and over, which is exactly why people were so sick of the original list.

maybe once gamescom rolls around
trailer will probably release on the day of, if not the day before

And if a weapon is a pain in the ass to play solo due to gimped damage then you'll barely see it in multiplayer as well, see HH

Unfortunately there are a few HH fags online who think they're actually useful

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new leak

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If we want to be truly honest a good portion of The List was correct like Weapon designs, mantles and so on
It was just drowned by the other retarded shit

CRIT
DRAW
IS
/IN/

Well speak of the Devil

Crit draw meta is back baby.

>An aura of frost builds when your weapon is sheated, raising attack.
>Wanes each melee hit or shot fired.
Crit Draw GS is back

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Wonder if we'll get a Punish Draw jewel or charm to stack with that, right now it's only a set bonus

I don't think anyone who isn't retarded would say that everything on the list was incorrect, the issue is that 90% of it was incorrect and that 'you know who' spammed it in every single thread for more than 18 months.

Or you know, sheathe into evade 2x into dragonpiercer spam
Opens up a lot of new possibilities

>crit draw is back
>4U AED CB is back
>Gunlance might actually not be shit for once
Iceborne is such a titanic step up from MHW it's not even funny, beautiful

disregard that, I can't read

Punish Draw was the Odogaron set wasn't it?

>Here, let me fix that Greatsword for you, no need to thank me

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Based FrostKush being infinitely better than Kush himsef
Fuck Kush

BRING BACK PUNISHING DRAW TOO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>kushala daora

talking about old mh style, 4th gen is what really killed it with monsters like glavenus, gore and valstrax. even 3rd gen had monsters like zinogre and brachydios. the new monsters in world feel more like old mh, because they dont have crazy color shemes and over the top abilites, but they feel more natural (except for vaal and xeno imo).
is that good? is that bad? thats a matter of taste in my opinion.
seems like the stuff coming with iceborne will lean more towards 3rd/4th gen stuff.

It's too early to celebrate, guys. It might be something like
>the weapon must be sheathed for a minimum period of 10 seconds before the effect activates
or some other bullshit.
TCS GS > Crit Draw GS

Varies from completely dead to around 12 lobbies tops in any given rank.

Bold faced lie. If you want to make a lobbdy doing anything other than grind deviants or key quests you'll be waiting for quite some time.

t. took me an entire day grinding out G rank hyper shogun ceantaur parts last weekend because hardly anyone would join my lobby

>glavenus and valstrax
Not 4th gen.
>gore
Literally nothing wrong with Gore. In fact, Gore is the best fight in the entire series. After Chaotic Gore.

From what i remember the new description of Max Might does mention that it takes some time to activate so since this doesn't mention anything like it it's probably different

the new unsheathed movement options look a lot more fun than crit draw, not gonna lie

Hmmm, good to see another source of Crit Ele on armors
Hoping for a deco, but i think at this point its only either KT bullshite or armor sets

>spoiler
Unironically me too
I liked critdraw because of how grug easy FU onwards were with simple angle turn predicitons, but TCS, angle positioning with tackles and super armoring feels way better for GS as a whole.

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Finally I can fuck off with using Rath pieces or Kjarr shit

Punish Draw is in the base game on the Odogaron armor, but it's only available as a set bonus unless Iceborne adds a charm or gem

Yeah, the new skill descriptions are much more informative. They even mention actual values like "element damage x1.10" etc. And not just some vague "slightly/moderately/greatly increases elemental damage". Unusually informative for MH.

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I don't expect any real leaks ever since SFV got its shit leaked before evo

wait. world didn't have crit draw skill? lol

if they are not 4th gen, what are they then?
x and xx are still 4th gen games, are they not?
and world is 5th gen.

You're still a crit meta slave.

At less than the maxed out skill it takes time.

XX and World should be considered in the same gen since they both added a lot of dumb nonsense

4rd gen.

To its credit, Kushala's armor was retroactively changed to have the then-new Focus in MHFU.

It does. Going for True Charges outdoes pure draw attack spam still but there's no reason you couldn't mix both. Problem was getting 100% affinity was easy even without crit draw.

Frontier Portable Gen.

Wouldnt the leaker post a video today?

Nice lie yourself fucko. Try joining a turns room next time.

No. The """leaker""" said 20th. Which is after the real video is going to be revealed.

well, guess im right, x and xx are 4th gen

That's not how that works

"Wanes" just sort of suggests to me like it builds up in tiers that the player probably can tell visually, maybe an aura or something. And each attack makes the aura thinner. Might even be useable for TCS

>"Wanes" just sort of suggests
>not "with EACH hit"
Of course it builds up and releases charge level gradually.

mhgu is still pretty active.
but if you want to do anything that is not endgame, you will have to join/create turn rooms.
and those can be pure cancer.
i really like mhgu, but the sos system in world is way better. NOT perfect, but better.

Nothing I said was a lie. No other MH game I've ever played had online this dead, but that's understandable because it's competing with World for players and also has a paywall for online play. Deviant shit is just way too good which is I guess the reason why you're going to have a hard time making a lobby for literally anything else.

And I DID have to enter a turns lobby and complete 6 additional random quests for the final 2 cortexes I needed because my lobby fell apart when a random triple carted and everyone left all at once.

youtube.com/watch?v=LI_tkoBHgeM

THIS IS NOT THE TRAILER I WANTED, CAPCOM YOU USELESS FUCKS. RYOZO I DEMAND YOU GIVE ME SATISFACTION IN THE FORM OF BRACHYDIOS. RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

An airou is fine too.

Why are the cats so fucking gay in World and Iceborne

You can really tell the XX devs made this.

It's not gay if they're メス.

>just join a turns lobby and do 50 additional quests for other people if you want to make an entry level G rank armor set
kek, it's not dead though guys! h-honest!

cmon man, its not dead.
while im waiting for iceborne im playing mhgu and theres still lots of lobbys. the problem is, as you say, that most people are doing only a few selected things. thats one of the bad sides of having as much content as mhgu. lots of "dead" content, when looking at the multiplayer.
also turn rooms can be complete cancer.
but saying mhgu online is dead is unfair. its just worse than worlds sos-system.

>Play game about tough badass cavemen crushing the skulls of 10-story-tall dinosaurs with lightning breath
>Payoff for saving the village from the big bad super dino is a j-pop dance music video
For everything I love about Japanese shit, idol culture disgusts me completely.

just solo it you retard

A cat is fine too.

This is the first non shill thread I've seen for Monster Hunter in like a month.

It would've been fine if the video also had the main monsters dancing along so it would've been less idol shit and more Monster Hunter sillyness

This is the most recent fucking idiot I've seen in this particular thread

>cmon man, its not dead.
I literally never had this problem in 4U, 3U and even Tri 2 years after it released when I pirated it. You search a lobby, enter a target monster, and most shit will have at least one lobby per monster in those games. I don't know why they even bothered making every weapon able to be upgraded to G rank if the deviant weapons and armor sets are better than 80% of the rest of the game's content.

>i've been unknowingly shilling Iceborne all this time
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY PAYCHECK RYOZO YOU FISH LOVING NIGGER

Jokes on them, I've already crossed that line.

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>o-online's not dead! pinkie promise!
>kek just solo the G rank pub quests in your high rank armor and weapons bro! just abuse easy mode styles it'll be braindead!
lmfao so it's dead then??

>only three weeks until release
>still can't pre-order RCG

>reeee I have to play the game
Cope

you literally do some gathering and create a good G rank weapon in a few minutes, and literally just many any drome set. are you this fucking retarded? is world your first game?

THAT BETTER NOT BE A FUCKING RAJANG IN WORLD I SEE

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thats the thing with to much content. at some point its just impossible to balance. thats also why i think its stupid that some mhgu players shit on world by saying how much more content it has.
im playing mhgu too and my experience online is pretty much the same as with mh4u and mhgen.
i dont know why you have such a different experience. not that i dont believe you, its just odd.

Why not? I'd like to see Rajang in 5th or 6th gen at the very least to diversify the monster roster. But also for the inevitable fight revamp, meaning he will be fixed and actually enjoyable to fight for once.

>its not dead but you cant find any lobbies for any of the content that isnt extreme deviants just solo the pub quests without G rank armor!!!
keep lying trying to shill your dead game faggot when you contradicted yourself with that statement about it being alive and well

sounds like an area where you guide a zora madragos through to its fucking 40 minute death

I said cope, not cry.

It's retarded to compare the amount of shit to do in a High Rank game with a G Rank game anyways

GET FUCKED FAGGOT THE HOT MONKEY DICK IS UNSTOPPABLE

The guy is straight up trolling, people need to stop taking bait.

Don't deny it, you know he's in.

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lol wut
how is getting the red-petrified weapons and grabbing velocidrome armor in G rank trolling

are you legit retarded

He's just TOO BIG.

>muh FU
The PSP games were the beginning of casual shit, especially your precious Faggots Unite
Go play Dos on the PS2 you stupid bitch

BING

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I've never liked the traditional hit-and-run playstyle of GS in previous games. Nor have I ever liked the LV3 charge sniping playstyle (like beginning a charge so that you can hit Tigrex's head with a LV3 charge after it does its double turn move and so on). The tackle changes everything and made me like the GS. The playstyle no longer felt as flowcharty and rigid. The tackle (aside from looking super cool) allows players to always stay aggressive and be in the monster's face instead of running around with your weapon sheathed while waiting for your turn.

>some of the old charm of the series was definitely lost in that jump.
I feel the same way about the jump to the PSP games

Rajang is a memetier fucking Weeb monster, prove me wrong.

Protip: You can't. Nigger is literally Goku

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It's literally not impossible to balance. It's not a matter of too much content when most top tier endgame weapons come from either deviant monsters or Athal-Ka. If your weapon relies on element, use deviant. If it's raw, use Ahtal-Ka. It's retarded how little variation there is even when compared to 3U or 4U that didn't have weapons able to be upgraded all the way up to G rank.

dos doesnt even have G rank and is much easier. nice try, though.

BIG

Garbage monster dead in a garbage MMO

>worldfags bitch about rajang

this HAS to be bait

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Laviente ain’t even an ED, just a big ass ‘crag wyvern’.

yes, and he's the best gigantic monster in the series, both in design and in his fight.

It's sad that they're not making an offline version of the game. The game is done. They don't need to make anything new. All they have to do is flip a switch that makes the game playable offline. It would be such a waste to let the entire game just vanish.

>singular idiot has bad opinion
>"ugh worldfags ugh"
There is more than one person on Yea Forums.

>design
Lmao

Based and redpilled Trumpkino
FU trannies need to be quarantined to resetera or something

>pair of friends leave right after completing their Nakarkos quest leaving me to dry
YOU FUCKING TRAITORS

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FU is much more difficult than Dos.

Rajang likely won't make it to world anyway, probably world 2 or whatever. I can't see them adding Rajang without them adding Blangonga too due to the similar skeleton and we all know Capcom are lazy as shit despite all the shekels they've made

>I can't imagine why anyone thinks handheld improved the series in any way
Faggot Unite fans that never played the real games on PS2

It's not like sniping was removed from GS with TCS. But it's good to see that the bulk of the weapon's damage output was shifted later into its "combo". Meaning you don't get an instant reward with no risk involved. But talking about World endgame, the GS isn't in a perfect position either. Because it relies a lot on the tackle, but further and further into the game you progress the less viable the tackle becomes. Since your defense is already capped, but the damage tempered and AT monsters do only rises.

But in general I'm satisfied with the new GS playstyle. Where you actually fight the monster normally until you land a trip, and only then can capitalize on it with a TCS "execution". OR if you manage to lineup a TCS ona moving monster during combat. Either way is more skillful approach to GS gameplay than spamming the unsheathe charge for massive damage over and over.

>one person

i have enough IQ to know other people share his retarded opinion

What's Goku?

>gamescom starts at 2AM in my region

fug

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>discuss which is the hardest monster.
The controls and hitboxes

besides visuals, FU is the best game of the first two gens.

>world 2

no

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>make deviant weapons amazing in just base stats alone and also have them charge hunter arts faster than normal weapons
>make all of ahtal's weapons just stupidly good in general with natural purple, high raw AND 3 slots on literally every single weapon
>"y-yeah nobody does anything but these because there's just too much content... heh"
no they just balanced this shit horrendously. deviants were a mistake.

>I have enough IQ to tilt at windmills because someone disagreed with me

>hating on 2G because you didnt play it
nice try, nintendies.

>9 pm
That's acceptable. Even though it's on Monday.
Finally SOME big vidya event that's close to my timezone.

>that trend started with generations
*Faggots Unite

>implying Capcom aren't going to make a sequel for their best selling title ever
World 2 is happening. They have a lot of the base Wyvern and ED models, W2 will be Carapaceans and Fanged Beasts, mark my words.

who is disagreeing clearly the children fear the hot monkey dick

FU was more difficult than MH2.

>he thinks World2 is coming

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It's not going to be called "World 2". It's MH6, or maybe Monster Hunter .
After such a grandiose success with World, Capcom might actually treat it as the series' soft reboot.

but tendies always lie about playing the PSP titles when they're shitting on world

They literally said they didn't call it MH5 because they didn't want to scare away newfags. Next game won't go back to being MH6.

>He think's capcom is gonna let Nintendies have their best selling title back for their Meme Soibox when it sold 13m copies for console and PC

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correct. Nintensharts use jewish tactics to discredit any game that wasnt on a nintendo console. they will shapeshift as necessary

>he thinks itchy nose is still relevant
Even if he's not laid off yet and is actually working on a new game, it's going to be a portable spin-off, deviating even more from mainline than Cross did. And since the actual MH fanbase is invested in the home console games now, a portable title wouldn't have any playerbase.

it would have a Nintendo playerbase

I'll take the deviants over the fucking golden gacha machine.

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True. But, see, the issue with the Nintendo playerbase is - they're massive Nintendo fanboys. They're only interested in the first party titles, and only take passing interest in whatever other developers' titles grace their platform. It's not going to be a persistent playerbase, because whenever the next Splatoon or Smash or whatever comes out, the online is going to turn into the wasteland.

4u is a shit game and it's fanboys are right next to FU crybabies in how much cum they blindly guzzle.

yes, the deviant weapons are too good in this game.
but even without deviants, people would still only do a few selected things. theres no point in having so many monsters, because a lot of these will simply be dead content, online at least. there will always be some weapon and set combination that will be the best and people will obviously play towards these. balancing the game that armor and weapons from over 90+ monsters are competitive with eachother is nearly impossible.

>the less viable the tackle becomes.

I mean, you're not gonna tackle monster attacks at end game sure, but the tackle still has powerful utility in being able to negate roars, tremors and wind presses without needing any armor skills to do so.

The series just never should have been on handhelds at all.
Hell, the first game shouldn't have been on the shitty ass PS2, it should have been on Xbox and PC.

Yeah, the way things are going, it seems like they'll add like 2-3 new skeletons per new game. So if World 2 came out, I can totally see it being focused on neopterons and leviathans being the new monster skeletons.

>since the actual MH fanbase is invested in the home console games now, a portable title wouldn't have any playerbase.
Boy, this line of thinking sure sounds oddly familiar.

And the wide slash after a tackle is surprisingly strong if the monster doesn't move as predicted, still does close to the damage of a Strong Charge

there arent any active handhelds on the market. the only "portable" is the switch. there already is a switch monster hunter and it sold like crap, around 350k copies.

>350k

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>but even without deviants, people would still only do a few selected things
yes there might be meta weapons for each weapon type but i cant think of a game since tri that had as little diversity in endgame equipment than GU. everything worth using either comes from either deviants or ahtal ka.

Does Lvl 3 Charge Draw -> Slap -> Lvl 3 Charge not exist in World? I never saw anyone doing that in a supposedly Crit Draw GS TA.

yea, GU is pretty extreme in that regard, i agree.

>you can now aim your shotgun slinger mid-combo in any direction, allowing you to basically have full 360 degree redirection control in aiming your attacks
youtube.com/watch?v=IcLCSSHc1Z4

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It seems like it is, doesn't it? But it's different. Back then MH was de-facto a portable exclusive franchise. I'm talking about a hypothetical situation when Capcom splits the franchise in two again: mainline home console titles and portable spin-offs. Doing so would be disadvantageous for them now, when, after escaping the portable hardware, the home console title became the best-selling game in the series AND Capcom's best-selling game ever. It's obvious for the devs where the MH fans and the money are, so dedicating their time and resources on a portable title development would be a waste. Unless it's just another low budget cash grab "greatest hits" copy-paste album of content virtually unchanged since PSP days.

You can just do Draw Charge -> Strong Charge now, no slap required
You can still slap after rolling or after a kick but it's a leftover part of the moveset at this point, good for freeing stunned teammates

technically yes but there's much better combo paths that no one ever uses it

That’s bullshit and you know it

It’s a team based game you give some you take some.

I dunno if you guys now this already, but here's a fun fact about World GS:
An upswing after a Strong Charge retains the "charged" state of the weapon (seen as the glowing aura around your weapon), and if you do another charged attack after those moves, it doesn't reset to regular Charged Slash and instead goes directly into the Strong Charge.
Also, the Strong Wide follow up to the Strong Charge can combo back into another Strong Charge, but it starts at charge lvl 2, like a TCS after a Strong Charge, so you effectively have an infinite charged combo with GS now.

>TCS wasn't nerfed in iceborne
>Capcom instead doubled down and made it easier to get it out

GS just isn't fun anymore

>350k
You're citing Japanese shipment numbers from 3 months after release.
At last count, the 3DS version of XX had sold about 1.8m copies worldwide. Sales between the 3DS and Switch versions are now at 3.2m, so it's safe to say that the Switch version has broken a million copies in its own right.

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I feel the opposite. Hit and run was boring.

@474201365
>it became ever so slightly easier to get big dick damage out of a weapon that's all about big dickdamage
>it's just not fun anymore
No (You)s for you, friend.

>Need to kill a monster 6-7 times to grind out its armor set
>Have to do 3 quests for other people every kill
>Have to do 30 random quests for other people to make a temporary set to get you through G1-G2
>Have to do the entire process again at G3 if you don't want to be dead weight

what part is bullshit? im still able to find people to play with on mhgu. not as easy as in world, but they are there.
and for anything other than key quests and endgame stuff you probably have to join a turn room, which can definitely be cancer.
saying mhgu is dead is wrong.
saying mhgu is super active is wrong.
mhgu is just active. thats it.

>Waaah I have to play the game and be a good teammate even if it doesn’t only benefit me all the time

Being able to do endless strong charges is actually at least as old as 4, if you did the normal Wide Slash after a strong charge instead of the Jumping Wide Slash you get to go straight back into a strong charge, good for long openings like Paralysis or Pitfalls.

I still enjoy draw charges but come on user TCS is the shit when you get to tell that fucking monster to SIT THE FUCK DOWN

based and redpilled

>just eat shit bro, you'll get used to the taste
And this is why people still somehow defend the old games despite them feeling ten times stiffer and worse to control and i say that as a 3Ufag.

>Make a lobby in specifying a certain monster is the target 4U
>There was bound to be at least who also needed to kill it.
>Everyone got the parts they needed in 30 minutes or so
How weren't you helping your teammates here too?

>y big sord so fk slo

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What are you people even on about
I soloed everything in XX (including Lao) until Atlal-Ka, and then I soloed it myself after a few hunts. You don't really need to do any quest in multiplayer unless you're really bad. I think the quest to unlock Chaos Oil III is the only one that you need a full party, doing it solo is fucking impossible