ITT: Useless party members
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>give the man a lance instead since it's his budding talent
>gets crits 90% of the time despite the low crit rate
sounds like you just fucking suck
90% of Chrono Cross
What's wrong with him exactly?
Just made him a Bow Knight and had him go around wrecking shit.
He has a really nice quality of life passive skill and bow knight can salvage him nicely.
>make him bow knight
>killing people halfway across the map with crits
excuse me?
I thought Ashe was shit at first but kept using him. When he became a sniper he was great at midgame but after makung him a bow knight he started to suck again. I am guessing mounted classes have negative speed growth. I had use brave bow to make Ashe good.
I think wyvern lord with a bow is better than bow knight anyway.
I stuck him on a wyvern and had him kill everything with close counter and alert stance. Easily my MVP.
>Betrayed his adoptive father who gave him a noble upbringing to become a church dog
Ungrateful scumbag
...
Edelgard was the one that tricked him into attacking the Church so she's half to blame too.
>sensei the church is evil you should join me instead
You must have just started. Wait until he starts criting everything.
>Adopted father decides to wage war on the school that you are currently in for the sake of revenge
>Knows that the church has a zero tolerance policy to heretics
>Doesnt send for you to return or anything
Lonato didn't give a shit about ashe
He was useful for me around the start, later on I just had Shamir and Leonie serve as my bow units since he was falling behind.
No one seemed outright useless in my experience, though Sylvain seems kind of weak, seemed really outclassed.
I feel like already at the school was the safest place for Ashe to be. As the adult son of Lonato, he could have also been implicated. His other siblings are too young.
Sylvain had a massive fall off in usefulness for me after an extremely promising beginning. He was like the opposite of Ashe, who snowballed into a fuckmachine.
Ashe really relies on not getting fucked by his 35% STR growth. I got lucky and by the end of the game he had like 10 more strength than Shamir.
Sylvain varied wildly for me. He turned into a very capable dark knight in my BL playthrough, but ended up as a mediocre paladin in my GD playthrough.
There is no reason to have him here. Might as well just give me 2 donalds or better yet,let me venture alone.
Everyone in the Blue Lions are traitors. Fucking Dodo became the black friend and dog of the kingdom that committed a holocaust on Duscar. What Edelgard did was mercy on the state of that shitty country.
And who tricked the Church into executing Christophe?
Don't know who this character is, but judging by his design, it looks like he's from the new Fire Emblem game. It's easy to tell since they all have that sameface going on.
Anyway, I like his clothing and his hairstyle but don't dig his hideously large pores on his nose. He'd be good looking were it not for those pores.
ACKSHUALLY user those are called sebaceous filaments.
they're freckles not pores
>pores
please be bait
They're freckles dumbass
>pores
What kind of bait is this
post-timeskip Ashe is a crit god.
Now this faggot right here...
Archers in general are kinda shit until they become Snipers/Bow Knights and then magic users are still just better. Only exception might be Petra but thats just because her growth is insane
Easily the worst "trainee" unit in FE
>growths so bad that with un-nerfed aptitude they end up normal
What were they thinking giving him aptitude if his base growths were trash anyway?
I actually liked what a little faggot he was in most of his supports, but his stats are shit and they never recover. I thought if you bothered with "villager" units they at least rewarded you with ludicrous stats.
Archers seemed fine. I had Leonie as an archer close to the mid game and she was great, would help guarentee a lot of kills and could even take a hit or two.
>I actually liked what a little faggot he was in most of his supports
Same, the only interest I ever had in him was seeing how much of a little shit he is.
It's not really their fault that there's a huge lack of flying units, and they kinda fucked the class by making most of the default archers with low strength growths then proceed to not give the class strength growth. Just slap the bow on something that isn't an archer and it's not bad at all aside from the learning curve and not getting the bonus range which is the reason you'd use a bow in this game
Besides magic in general is kinda broken because they're allowed like 8 different spells if their name starts with Lys while everyone else has to put up with having only 3 abilities which include shove/drag back/reposition
No idea, there really isn't any reason for the aptitude skill to actually exist in this game at all though, honestly. Considering the only reason it ever existed in the first place was so that you could pass it on to that character's child.
I don't know if he's meant to suck or what, but for me he absolutely decimated everything as a Bow Knight, was good.
>My bow knight ashe has a 94% crit rate
Nah ur just shit.
I wish they'd patch it out, adjust his growths, then make his skill something like "does extra damage if next to a Churchie"
archers typically have better speed, which melts brigands and mages. archers are a bit less squishy than mages as well, but you almost never want to put a full archer or mage in a situation where they can get hit, so that point really doesn't matter that much. but still.
From what I've seen he seems like a 50/50 unitbthat depends on rng stat growths. I've seen people call him a god and others say he's useless.
More like Edelgard's entire fucking act is trechary.
She does stupid shit that ruins everything and helps no-one while acting on bad information that you even learn in her own route isn't true. And then when you get the big reveals, it turns out she's doing it completely out of personal motivation, rather than any kind of high-minded idealism instead.
It's not the ends justify the means, it's a woman who's been fed lies lashing out at who she thinks has hurt her.
It's especially shown at the end of the Kingdom route, when she's defeated, her power taken away and she's turned just back into herself. Dimitri literally holds out a hand for her, he'll listen to her, he'll accept what her grievances are and he'll help make the world right...
...Instead, she literally takes the dagger he told her was a symbol of "Making her own future" and casts her life aside. For no reason but personal pride.
Anyone who didn't say "Fuck this" along with Dimitri as he walked away from her cooling corpse wasn't paying attention.
Since this isnt an eldetard thread I figure this is a good place to ask
Whats the secret to leveling up professor level and getting loads of cash? I've seen people with "A" professor level before the timeskip with like 60k gold, how the fuck?
Bow knights are just fucking dumb in general. I have no idea what they were thinking, giving a unit with horse mobility +2 bow range in a game with fucking canto on top of various combat arts giving additional range. They have an absolutely ludicrous effective range.
Oh good another delusional waifufaggot is here to shitpost
>just ignores that the empire kidnaps and experiments on children then disposes of them
Edelfaggots in a nutshell
Ludicrous range to me is when you stack Magic+Dex on Byleth, and send him into a whole pile of enemies with Black Magic range+1 as well as Thrysus. Just use the right flowers when you garden to get the Magic items obviously.
That's 5 range on 30 damage, 30-50% crit fireballs on a character with 70HP and ~60 mixed defenses. He was counterattacking turrets at some points. GLORIOUS.
Always explore once a month, and if there's no quest to fight then just explore again. Always eat meals with kids, choir, fight once a month, fish, and then finally at the end you plant seeds. I'd say buy fishing material but you'll get sick of that.
For professor level its fishing, especially on the days that give you multiple fish per bait and as for money, the online feature that lets you sell items to other players
who is this i look like him
Why is timeskip Ashe's design so much worse
>counterattacking turrets
Good heavens user.
my bf
nobody ever buys my goddess messenger
Because you have shit taste
S O R R Y P R O F E S S O R, I A M B U S Y
Did you put something good like a master seal or umbral steel
Either some kind'a online gimmick or they're on NG+.
You can get A level right off the bat in NG+. And to make money, just sell all the Battallions that carried over.
I feel like it's the ear tuck and weird length. Here's an extremely ghetto edit.
professor...
He has the same hair, he just tucks it behind his ear on one side
Is Hilda best as a warrior, fortress knight, or wyvern lord?
Post something useful like seals or rare ores.
wyvern lord, aka the best class in the entire game
wyvern lord
FK is a shitter trap. There's no reason not to go wyvern lord with how dis/mount works in this game.
Wyvern Lord or Bow Knight? I already recruited Bernie as my dedicated Bow Knight
redpill me on dismount ive never used it
wyvern lord is better overall because of the growths and flight
Nah Gooby is solid dps, people just don't take the time to get the good shield
Goofy can solo the final Ansem form in 1 in like 10-15 seconds
mounted units are straight upgrades to foot units since they can mount/dismount without taking up a full turn
canderous ordo
motherfucker starts with all this gun shit and can't even shoot straight
carth is already a better shootan soldier, zaalbar's a better melee, canderous is shit tier and unnecessary
would've been cooler if heavy weapons were actually good but they aren't
we already discussed how bow knights are the best class in the game
After Chapter 2, I hardly use her.
As far as I can tell it removes your unit's weakness to magic and bows at a small cost of -2 speed. Great for keeping your units safe and more or less makes it so they don't have a downside.
>tfw six fliers in my army
I'LL END IT THUS
Made him a Hero, was a badass. Git Gud scrub.
>"I tried to do the right thing, Lonato..."
F
Gogo
The versatility would have been great if his stats were just slightly less abysmal
Funny way of spelling ingrid. bitch does no damage
She's a dodge machine, mine was a great pegasus knight.
Some people are fond of savant bolting activating support for 7 tiles.
worthless when you're given so many fucking heals and your team is full of tanks. what blue lions need is damage.
>locktouch on a flier
>useless
to speak nothing of his actual potential no less
Based
Could be worse, could be Ignatz. Bernie is the best archer sans Claude (If you don’t make Leonie a cavalier for a while you wasted her).
Goofy has better area control and does not run through MP every two seconds. Also Donald bullies Riku which lead him to let an older man inside him.
Based.
Worst unit in the game and I want to bash his dumb skull in.
Now if we talking useless members, he does give a good paralouge but aside from that he’s a benchwarmer.
Jeff and Poo in Earthbound, they die in like 2 hits during the final fight, even when leveled to the max.
grass starters in pokemon
>has awful growth growth rates at you
>BE route
>he's positioned right next to Immaculate One
>Bait him away with Ingrid
>she wrecks his shit
What's wrong with bow knight leonie?
I had her as a cavalier/paladin for a while, but moved her to bow knight for the last few chapters after she maxed paladin.
Made Ashe a poor version of Claude and it worked pretty well on both a horse and a wyvern
At the beginning they all suck
Pic related outclassed him entirely. Always felt like the weakest link in my BE route.
Mine started out terrible, getting doubled all the time, but suddenly came online and just started murdering everything by the time he hit paladin.
>25 Str
>But Dex and Speed through the roof
I just gave her a Killer Lance and a Brave Lance and she crit everything to death. She was godly for me.
They were both at full health, seriously I don't even
Giygas' attack does insane damage. Poo is kind of useless but Jeff has a lot of useful tools, does good damage with the bazooka, and can nuke shit with bottle rockets.
I just found using her as a pure archer did not play to her strengths. While I finished as a bow knight for her, for most of my run she was playing mainly as a cavalier unlike the more pure archers.
>Free lockpicking
I'd run him if he had 1 HP and no other stats.
>lockpick being useful in a game where you can buy chest keys in any instance during battle preps
Did anyone not instantly bench him? I usually never both with the "villager" units but apparently he is especially bad? He's also a super boring character as well.
>"I leveled up!"
>*ding* *ding*
Does Sylvian ever get good? Jesus. Guys fucking useless. My main units are definitely Dedue, Felix, Byleth, and Mercedes.
>Not having him as a wyvern knight going around unlocking shit for free without clogging everyone else's inventory
Play BE and Ferdinand will make you appreciate Slyvain.
He's a contender for best unit in the game if you're not a shitter.
Sylvain was probably my best unit aside from Byleth, Dimitri and Manuela, made him a black knight since he has a talent for black magic
Who are the best units to recruit on the GD and BE routes?
Unless he gets mega cucked with the growths he usually ends up as one of your best units. Have you gotten the lance of ruin yet? My sylvain was pretty shit until after the timeskip.
his budding talent is reason so level that up and make him a dark knight. he's basically made for being a dark knight
You use him to tank hits, Rally, and Seal Speed. Don't use him for damage
Not with that max magic.
Yeah his growths haven't been great. I just got the Sword of the Creator. Taking a break for now.
Donnel will always be the worst because he actually hurts your team to train by taking exp that should be going to people with proper class sets that will be useful later on
You can at least make Cyril a wyvern, a worse wyvern than anyone else but still a wyvern
Or he can gambitbot, that's more utility than Donnel ever had
Doing a GD NG+ route and goddamn is GD a way more balanced roster than BL. Sure in BL you have Ingrid and Dimitri but the rest of the class really does not play around each others' strengths at all. I actually have a use for all of my units in GD
Honestly man, if you're that early on then it's entirely your fault. Sylvain could pull his weight for the entire pre-time skip without gaining a single growth point if you're playing right. He's that fucking good.
When would anyone ever actually reach or need their Max stats?
You can always make him anything else by grinding if they're shit at what they should be doing
ewan is much worse
he can tank hits from fortress knights and melt them with ragnarok, and just impale everyone else. a good jack of all trades
That's the point. His max stat is pretty fucking low for a mag unit, and he'll never reach it.
Mine has pretty nice defense. Otherwise pretty mediocre.
Most of my units in BE run have pretty mediocre strength and magic to be honest
I tried to use him for a little bit in my first playthrough just because I had accidentally recruited him. Got dumped real quick just because he's fuckin boring.
Let's just talk about units that always end up good for you. Mine is Mercedes. Always good stat gains across the board for my two runs so far.
>shit unit
>shit growths
>shit character
Why is Cyril actually even in the game?
BE is pretty self sufficient but if you're not making Petra nor Edelgard a wyvern lord then pick up Ingrid so you have at least one flier. Felix and Lysithea are pretty much always good too (Dorothea outdid Lysithea for me, but if you're making Dorothea a dancer then definitely get Lysithea). For me all of my BE units turned out really great except for Ferdinand and I just turned him into a tanky dancer and he ended up being effective too. Leonie would make a better bow knight than berdie, but you already get Shamir without any effort anyway.
Is Ingrid the only decent flier? I was thinking of making Petra an assassin and Edelgard as her great lord equivalent.
>B+ to start in faith and only has heal and rescue
>one of the lowest health pools in the game
>slow as molasses
>shit Mag
fucking useless.
Dorothea, Sylvain and Lysithea are the major pick ups from each house respectively for how uniquely powerful each one us. Anything else is just a matter of filling out what holes you need, and that's all relative.
It pays to make someone with high speed growths a flier, because they'll often be your vanguard and thus will need to tank a lot of shit. Ingrid and Petra are dodge machines hence they make good fliers, but really anyone can make a good flier because fliers are so good.
Petra also makes a good wyvern lord, I had her go that route in my first blue lions run.
Who is the best melee attacker in GD?
Unless you're a cheat using NG+ items on the first playthrough she's the worst out of like 40 party members.
Why damage when you have THE BOAR?
It kind of seems like everyone but magic units are decent fliers
I think someone accidentally spent too much time on the model of an NPC so they made him playable.
Was gonna post this.
He can crit people across the map.
He also geeks out over books with his gf and will clumsily burn himself during teatime.
Best boywife
Literally this. Fuck this guy.
lolwut. Amazing.
Apparently Sylvain is really good, but I benched him because I didn't enjoy his supports. Do whatever makes you happy.
Remember though, you can salvage any unit you like through gardening. Green seeds give Dex, Purple give Str, Blue give speed, etc etc.
Just do it before you finish Exploration, then save and make sure you got your item, reload if not.
I was going to say /ss/, but they also fucked that one up.
Hilda or Raphael
My Lorenz likely may have been RNG blessed given other people's experiences with him, but he has been nothing but based in my playthrough so far. Dude's a tanky as fuck mage. I can put him on the front lines without worrying about him and he stills kills shit consistently on account of almost no enemies having any notable RES. And he's not even a dark knight yet, can't wait for that retarded move range and Canto.
Ignatz however, now there's a benchwarmer.
>Being an archer in the house that already has a godly archer lord
The most optimal dancer, and has Rescue.
If you don't have use for Flayn, you've fucked up.
don't talk shit about my boi
Hilda and Byleth
Raphael is decent as a war master
Raph, gauntlets are bullshit.
GORILLA! HILDA! SMART AND STRONG!
He's a free recruit that always comes at a usable level and decent proficiencies. He's bad but he's there in case RNG made your other units shit.
The doujins will fix that.
He'll probably only get a gay doujin though like Percy
Did anyone every marry Gilber? I was shocked to find you can S-Rank him.
>His supports with Annette are about how he's going to try atone for what he did, he'll return home to his wife and child
>Oops, nope, he's decided to run off with M-Byleth and have gay sex instead
I wanted to pick it out of sheer disbelief it was an option, but I couldn't bring myself to do that to Annette.
She's cute so I married her. I mader her a dancer, and she just sat as an Byleth's adjutant so I can enjoy her sinful body during combat. Also gives a 3 MT support bonus, btw.
Great taste user! I did exactly the same! I always marrys story characters as a preference, and she was the cutest for sure.
You guys did make Leonie your dancer, right?
How does stat progression even work?
Is it based on a seed you start the game on?
I've reloaded a couple of missions to see if level ups would produce different results. They didn't.
Lorenz is a beast. He gets some great spells.
>recruit him at level 9, when he becomes available
>he's a couple points behind other units at his level in some stats, ahead of them in others, no harder to level up than other characters with low strength like Ingrid or Ashe
>overall growths are higher than every character in the game and lean physical instead of balance
>naturally adept at wyvern lord and bow stuff
It's really not difficult to make him a rapemaster.
The most optimal dancer is someone who's not doing anything else
Dance is a the best utility and pairing it with any other will just make you unable to use both at the same turn
That said, is a retard because 3 rescues per map (6 with Bishop) is fucking great
>needing three rescues
They do tho? Divine pulse does not reroll lvl-ups. Retreating does reroll lvl ups. Playing the next map rerolls lvl ups.
>reloaded
the game is weird in that the game is in a seeded RNG. meaning the outcome is already determine before battle or week. thats why you could never reroll on exam certification and hope to get a different outcome.
Rescue is a great utility spell. It's not about whether you "need" it or not.
but she's good for sex and that's what truly matters
Shamir was better than all these bowshitters in every route, killed everything while sticking around in the frontline so much that she carried 2 of my playthroughs. As for the rest, Ashe was trash for the first half until he started criting almost nonstop near the last 3 chapters, Ignatz for some reason got equal stats in pretty much everything making him a tanky support all throughout, while Bernadeada didn't get shit for str and ended at lvl 45 with just around 27str fucking useless smelly hiki could only gambit canto and pussy tap sub 10hp enemies on hard
>I don't want a fuckload of exp, free Holy Magic points, and much more positioning/movement flexibility
It's to prevent savescumming or using divine pulse for rerolling shenanigans.
I kind of prefer Dorothea dancer. The "someone who's not doing anything else" argument doesn't really hold up in practice because you have you only have so many deployment slots, but plenty of units with redundancies.
Dorothea has all the right proficiencies, also has a personal that doesn't go to waste, and being a strong dodge tank means you can dance way more aggressively by moving her forward. Whether we're talking extra utility or the waste of the unit, it's trading 3 range magic for rescue.
Just like how you ignore the race traitor Dodo and his complicity in the genocide of Duscar.
I don't see what the big deal about rescue is. It basically just means you can send someone in to kill a unit then pull them back out of enemy range, but in most cases you can just send a second or third person in to kill whatever is threatening the target of your rescue anyway.
But she's cute
Don't worry user, that specific S-rank is completely platonic, he just pledges himself to you.
Which honestly feels a bit like a cop-out, homewrecking drama would've been fun.
>his complicity in the genocide of Duscar
Daudau isn't complicit though, where'd you get that idea?
rescue is a shit utility spell that only helps fix your shit play if you spread yourself too thin.
canto > warp > shove> relocated > pull back >>>>>> rescue
Fuck Duggers.
Thedude is cool though, he did nothing wrong.
i would argue that warp is better than canto
Warp>Canto, it's the prime cheese strat combined with Stride. I beat those who Dubstep in the Dark in 4 turns.
So what you're saying if I wanted to fuck with the rng I would have to save at the end of the week and go into a battle on following weekend and a different map as well?
Why are all the Golden Deer boys so based. Each one of them has a case for best boy. The only thing is who do I pair them off with. Right now I am thinking
Claude/Lys
Ignatz/Petra
Raph/Been
Lorenz/Marianne
>not pairing lys with MC
bro..
>playing a male MC
>playing BL
>at chapter 10
>already bored with the game
Please convince this game gets better and I didn't waste my money.
it gets better after chapter 12
He was really good as a dark mage for me. High HP and decent defensive stats meant he could tank a couple of hits, lots of mov, canto, doubles most enemies and can always use magic if an enemy has too much def.
He kinda fell down a little towards end game, but he was pretty strong nonetheless.
You picked the worst route, go Golden Deer
the first 12 chapters are always a slog if your not trying to be horribly under leveled and enjoy either min-maxing or steamrolling of any sort
Does it get more difficult? I am on hard mode classic and I can essentially have Dimitri, mc, Catherine and sylvain kill everything in one turn
But I like this cute boi
Bernies poor strength gets a little salvaged by her personal skill. She did a good job at killing mages and some other low def targets for me, but she can't really reliably kill on her own.
Only a little at best. The paralogue chapters are actually quite interesting, the others not so much.
Same, but his timeskip hairstyle is atrocious, he looks like a lesbian.
Hey there, I killed your big brother faggot and Lonato.
Going to play BE next and was planning on making Ferdinand a Hero. Bad idea?
When is Lunatic coming? Hard is too fucking easy.
>Being so casual you let Catherine steal the EXP
>Not having Ashe take the final shot for maximum kino
>that paralogue between bernie and petra
I thought you faggots said this game was easy
>not letting the generic soldiers with Catherine take the final shot
That nigga will get a promotion and glory. He earned it
>he doesn't have all 10 characters on a horse or flying mount of some kind
The later paralogues actually have moderate difficulty. Still, I could unga bunga through it for the most part with my horde of flying units and using divine pulse whenever that faggot edgelord hit with meteor.
For some reason all of the best content is stuck behind paralogues.
He'll finally have something to report to Sensei.
Today I found out that Nemesis will move when you attack him. I thought boss movement would be strictly a Lunatic thing, but I was wrong. My Byleth jobbed to his 7% crit and I had to Pulse.
And even then, some like Annette still work with bolt axe
Has anyone tried an Ironman yet?
Beat BL Hard and thought it was a little too easy, so I'm waiting for Lunatic for BE. Thinking of doing a no-Pulse GD Ironman while I wait.
Well yeah what did you expect, other bosses like death knight also exhibited the same thing earlier in the game and it's not like storywise the tile he's sitting on is a fort he's defending or a special place of power. Honestly it's actually pretty beneficial to pull him away from his tile if for no other reason than to deny him HP regen per turn
I can't bring myself to hate Hubert, but fuck him in that map.
Fun fact: the reinforcements only spawn when Petra gets halfway through the map. Feel free to clear the entire thing before triggering them.
Buy bait every single chance you get and use it on the multiple fish day. I went from c+ to a+. Took about an hour and half, maybe 2 hours with a break. Worth it though, 10 ap, 3 adjuncts and 3 battle points was nice. Maxed out every skill I’ll need for ng+ to s
>useless
just wait until the 40+ speed assassins with silver swords ready to double all of your mages
Last Blue Lion chapter on Lunatic for those curious to see how the stats/abilities are
She also has Nosferatu and learns Fortify. She would be good if Falcon Knights could use white magic like in some older games.
Marianne belongs to the CHAD Ignatz
Proof : youtu.be
>lunatic
that was a slog to go through trying to keep everyone alive on hard. i can't imagine what I have to do to prepare for lunatic. whore out MC? i have no one else to rely on for my backline.
Ashe gets crits easy, he's a pinch hitter.
Sylvain is the Blue Lions I benched. He's made of paper but he's built as if he was meant to tank.
I wish she was real
>all these people saying sylvain is weak
I don't understand. My sylvain has 36 attack in chapter 11. He is an incredible wyvern rider. Can't wait to get him to 30 so he can be top tier wyvern rider
>Not keeping him by his waifu
But really maybe I have been lucky but ever since I grabbed him day one as female MC he has been putting in work. Even as a Deer who are stacked with good units he hold his own. My him and Hilda together is op it is a shame they don't have an A rank
I gave him wywern and made him opening chests and doors around the map. You mean that's not his whole purpose?
Yeah I made my Sylvain a wyvern rider and he destroys everything. My Ashe however never crits like how all these people are saying he does. I ended up just making Shamir a pegasus knight and she's proving much more useful than Ashe ever was.
My Sylvain is decently tanky, Felix was terrible though. He could double everything, but enemies only needed two hits to murder him because he had lower def than any of the mages so he was useless in combat without a dedicated healbot.
So I made him the dancer. Even Peg Knights have like 5% hit on him, all is well.
So is there any point in using any of the mid tier classes like assassin late game?
I think they fell for the dark knight trap and wasted his development time on reason
Or got RNG screwed
I just bought three houses. First Fire Emblem game. What am I in for? Speak for your house and convince me which to join
>people actually make him a dark knight
Why, I can understand the paladin trap but not this.
>cast meteor while on horsback
Mine still get good magic levels. Right now I am making him a dragon boi, since my Lorenz is shaping up to be an even better mixed attacker, but it is nice to know I have a second one waiting in the wing
He looks cool in black
I speak for the church route. It's the most logical of all the routes.
Assassin is one of the best foot lock classes, certainly better than Mortal Savant
White mage guys also may stay in bishop for extra magic uses
>no daggers
Fuck this game, I want to be a real assassin
Golden Deer is the hetro how full of Chads and best girls. Also no matter what house you pick grab Lys as soon as you can or you aren't going to be able to kill the death knight in chapter 4
He serves the tyrant who currently occupy what's left of Duscar and who's people are discriminated against by Faerghus. Except for him of course as long as he serves Dimitri like a dog.
>Lys as soon as you can or you aren't going to be able to kill the death knight in chapter 4
This isn't true, I had dimitri one shot that fucker with knightkneeler crit. If he didn't kill him my ingred would have finished him off
Why bank on a crit when she can one shot him free.
>dancer Felix
That's some top memery.
Like I said if he didn't crit Ingred would have killed him as she had knightkneeler as well. Both units attacking one after the other would have killed him either way
Mortal Savant is great. No need to keep a rapier on hand for heavy knight units. Can easily kill them and it's growths are similar to swordmaster. It's a all rounder class that's actually useful
I was considering Savant for Marianne, because of her soulblade ability. Is that a stupid idea?.
Sylvain was kinda shit for me pre timeskip before he got Lance of Ruin and a few decent level ups. Now hes like my 4th or 5th best unit
You mean Lys. Marianne gets a spear skill that works well with making her the mounted healer. As for soulblade it is a cool off pick Lys has so many spells that you don't need the extra uses going a pure mage class gives you. However that does mean you have to spend time grinding her sword skill cause she ain't killing anything on the battlefield with a sword
No, I meant Marianne. She got it when her swords reached C+.
>I want to be a real killer
>While gimping my attack power and shortening my range
yikes. Typical Telliusbab, no wonder your shit games nearly killed the franchise. Sword and bow is the way to go, friend.
Think hitman.
Shut the fuck up. You don't know anything before Lunatic comes out. Currently the game is so easy that you can pick anyone you want and steamroll everything. Lunatic is where your choice in characters actually start to matter and that game isn't even out yet.
You cauals digust me beyond words.
I made Sylvain a wyvern lord, and while he was fine and pulled enough weight to stay, Seteth was outright better. Just felt really odd that a unit I got for free was better than a character I had raised from nothing.
Gave the boy a sword and made him a merc then thief, he does enough damage to kill enemies in one go with x2 attacks, don’t know whether to swerve and railroad him down sniper or keep going and make him an assassin, but Ashe is great
its the classic fire emblem pre promote conundrum: when pre-promotes are really good it feels like there's no point in raising certain units when the game gives you a better version for free
Blue Lions is basically the canon route and Dimitri is Punished Snake done right.
Black Eagles is the villain route actually it branches at a point in the story where you need to side with either Edelgard or the Church and the consensus I've seen is it generally has worse presentation/writing than the other routes, on top of being the shortest so it probably shouldn't be your first.
Golden Deer is the neutral/LORE route and should probably be done after the other two.
Try to spread around EXP evenly (have strong units weaken enemies so your weaker units can get the kill EXP). Eventually you'll recruit more and then you can start considering who needs to be benched, if anyone. Some units are better than others but anyone can get screwed or blessed by level up RNG. If a unit you really want to use is struggling you can use stat-boosting items you'll find (or can farm from rare seeds in the Greenhouse) to help them keep up.
Eventually you'll be able to recruit units from other Houses, which can be done by building their Support points and raising Byleth's proficiency in their preferred stat and weapon type. For units that want something Byleth isn't already good at it's easiest to just build their Support to B Rank which will lower their standards for the other requirements a lot.
The game recommends Casual mode for new players but it just teaches bad habits (it's a lot less challenging to take down the big boss at the end of a map when you can just have your units kill themselves on it to chip it down). Classic mode forces you to think ahead when you're positioning units and makes risky plays that much more rewarding. You'll have a decent number of rewinds to deal with mistakes or bad luck.
The game isn't too difficult by FE standards outside of a few lategame maps so maybe consider starting on Hard mode and seeing if it's too much to handle (you can turn the difficulty down at any time, but never back up).
>Blue Lions is basically the canon route
Will you faggots stop spouting this? Yes it's the best route but there is no canon route in the game. Just fucking stop already
I did Church first since it was the shortest, and planning on bookending it with Edel's route so I can see what was up with her I'm in my second run now with the BL.
He was useless though. Not enough move or bulk or evade to be a frontline combat unit, no magic or assist skill to attack from further back. I was just using him to kill stragglers hanging out alone in a corner. As a dancer with boots and the +move ring, he is everywhere and can do anything. He can attack things from range with Thoron, he can heal, he can dance, and he can pull aggro from mages while dodgetanking because enemies have 1 hit on average.
>Marianne paralogue
>light up torch
>Edelgard got the King killed
>because of this, Duscur got blamed
>Edelgard posing as flame emperor coerced Ashe's dad to rebel
It was all Edelgard's fault. Just because she decided to drop the flame emperor facade doesn't make her actions as the flame emperor null.
>come into thread
>immediate spoilers
subhumans
Black Eagles route is on another level compared to the others, it's like what a Delita route would have been like in FFT. In fact, it feels more FFT/TO-ish than Fire Emblem.
Blue Lions to understand the story and characters.
Then Black Eagles to understand why it happened.
Then Church to realise Black Eagles was mostly a lie and what the truth really is. You can skip Deers if you want.
>Blue Lions is basically the canon route
If any route is canon it's probably the church one.
Skipping the route with the only house full of likable goofballs who are all low key the most based in the whole cast.
game's been out for weeks nigger
Marianne works great as a Mortal Savant or Dancer, since Blutgang scales off magic and her high dex and crest synergies well with it. But then you're losing her natural regen from her personal ability if you don't make her a Dark/Holy Knight.
>low key
Stop this.
kill yourself
>skipping best route
Brain problems?
Beating Marianne to a bloody pulp while she moans in ecstasy about how she deserves it!
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>it's like what a Delita route would have been like in FFT
Damn that sounds pretty good. Imagine getting to choose to play as Ramza or Delita at the beginning and them having separate playable routes
What game?
Kamidori
mistel sucked from the moment i got her, expected more from scythes
Pleb
>Getting beat up by Marianne while she screams about her blood compelling then profusely apologizes after you moan in ecstasy
If I'd have to choose between Church and Deers to only do once, I'd rather go Deer since there would be a new house of units to mess around with instead of just playing with the Beagles again but this time without the lord and retainer. They're almost exactly the same route anyway
He has a proficiency in axes, so just make him a brigand and wyvern master
Riding Sylvain for that sweet sweet crest semen!
Make everyone a wyvern master. Class is fucking broken with their growth rates
Soulblade is worth
I want to marry Felix but I've heard about that bug when your character makes A support with someone he can ditch you because of that. Right now I'm scared to see Felix and Dimitri's A support because of that, I don't want to get BOAR'D. Felix has A support with Sylvain only, should I avoid his A supports at this point?
How are character pairings determined in the credits?
>Tfw I'm an autist who dislikes taking characters out of their 'canon' class progression.
Any other niggas like me out there?
Sylvain is prime Grappler/War Master material
Fist weapons get 4X hits no problem which procs his crest and his naturally high STR combines to make a pain train. Lightweight Felix without the weight of weapons dodges almost everything, his magic shield halves any thing that does hit him and he gets the healing ability from brawling to make him entirely self sufficient.
It's not a bug but an oversight. They pair off with whomever is highest on their "close allies" list or whatever which can change depending on actions taken. So long as you ensure you're always in the number 1 spot, you should be fine.
Not Fire Emblem, but everyone who isn't on the cover of pic related counts. Especially Morwen and Eaoden.
>Paladin trap
W-What do you mean? Aren't paladins good?
See The easiest way to keep points high is to pair them off in fights together as adjutants.
Damn, was hoping it was something as easy as not obtain A rank support or something.
I'm pretty sure it's determined by their closest ally on their status page. My Sylvain's first A+ was Ingrid but his closest ally was Felix. I got Sylvain x Felix.
What makes Donnel so shitty beyond starting in Villager? He has access to Sol, and his repulsive Luck means he procs Armsthrift every hit.
Nope, you have to keep at it with certain people to ensure they go where they need to. That said Byleth has priority on everyone so if someone has a high rank with a female and you marry that female, that someone will go down his list to the next highest available person.
To be honest I'd have prefered bringing back S-ranks at this point, at least they were easier.
Wyvern rider is just better in every single way especially since you can bypass their weakness of arrows by dismounting
I have no idea. I kept Donnel a hero and he was a one man army.
>rescue is a shit utility spell
Warp Rescue shenanigans says no
Also, Warp>Canto
She's cute. What game user?
Felix is a better pickup than Sylvain. Sylvain’s only redeeming quality is really early access to his relic weapon.
NG+ gives you the ability to buy prof level with renown. I would reccomend only buying to C+ and using the rest on skills.
>Not recruiting every student every run
Yggdra union, she's PSP-exclusive
Ignatz was intended to be a Rally bot but he’s outclassed by Annette.
If he had deadeye he could at least leverage his +20 hit personal skill.
>muh loonato
Of course.
Do you need meme savant for that?
>enter thread about game that's been out for weeks
>gets a minor spoiler for chapter 4 about a character you never hear about until said spoiler happen on every route
I'm the same although I focus more on canon growths than canon classes. I made Hilda a Wyvern Master since having a flier early on was useful and I made Ignatz an Assassin since I thought it'd be redundant to have him as a Sniper and Leonie as a Bow Knight and I dislike having more than one unit in the same end class. Other than that everyone else is more or less what they were born to be
>Mfw my Ashe has 19 strength by chapter 10
The next five years of my life will be devoid of luck.
Normally yes but these terrible master class options are giving me a problem. DLC needs to add at least 3 new ones.
Why even come into a thread about a game you haven't finished yet? What did you think people would talk about here?
>Mortal Savant is great.
No.
>No need to keep a rapier on hand for heavy knight units.
Go Dark Knight instead. Or just a mage class in general since they can freely wield swords.
>it's growths are similar to swordmaster.
Except with 30% less speed(in fact having a negative modifier on your speed growth).
>It's a all rounder class that's actually useful
It's flat out worse than a dismounted Dark Knight and badly outclassed by a mounted one.
Get your waifu so you don't have to kill her.
I feel like you can still just do that. It wouldn't make sense for two characters to have an ending together when they haven't even hit A rank with each other
IS time and time again have shown they cannot balance wyvern riders to save their lives
What carries over in NG+? Does it really speed the game up? I kind of can't imagine playing this game again. It's the longest Fire Emblem.
I'll be honest, after giving Felix a bow I would have benched him if there was a bench. But later on I gave him a silver bow and he's alright.
>Sylvain’s only redeeming quality is really early access to his relic weapon.
Also good speed, better bulk than the entirety of the Black Eagles(making him an ideal pickup for them) and good str. In fact, he has almost no negatives at all.
>no lance class for males that doesn't require you to put a bunch of stats into another weapon
Why are you wasting best swordsman? My Felix Mortal Savant can dodge everything and clean a whole line by himself
All progress towards the statues and renown.
You can also spend renown on a couple of things:
>unlock support levels from previous playthroughs
>unlock professor levels, up to what it was on the previous playthroughs
>classes that you maxed out on your previous playthroughs
You can also change between school and war outfits.
>after giving Felix a bow
Why would you do that the dude was born to hold a sword.
Are there any disadvantages to just shoving 3-4 Wyvern Lords on a team?
Because they seem absolutely broken.
Mine had hit rate issues for a bit and his speed took a while to ramp up but I'm not sure if that was just me being rng screwed
As long as you're looking archers I don't see why not.
The only downside to Wyvern Lord is the ugly armour desu
Some maps are pretty archer heavy limiting where they can go but you can just dismount them or reclass them to warrior temporarily to get around it
stop defending this subhuman behaviour.
i understand that it was my fault to come to this garbage board full of underage retards in the first place but i'm mainly complaining because this would be a much better place if people learned how to use SPOILER[/spoiler TAGS].
and i even understand that it's not a huge spoiler but i'm doing this out of pure principle. because there are actually peabrains out there that think that spoilers don't matter.
>inb4 hurr durr spoilers don't matter
and this is why this is the normalfag board
Not that guy but I had Felix using a bow to support his swords for the first half of the game. Neither swords nor fists have reliable ranged options at that point and he can't use both swords and magic well until Master class. It worked really well, and I still had plenty of time to raise his sword and reason to S after the detour into bows.
i did the same, also helps the game is easy enough to where he can get by with a forged iron for most the game so its not like you have to invest much into it
Which class has the best looking outfit and why is it Sniper?
>Only one with enough Authority to use all these badass battalions from paralogues is Dimitri.
>Everyone else whose name isn't Byleth has an Authority of D
I wish they could keep their default outfits.
He has some of the shittiest stat caps in the game on top of being Gen 1, so pretty much useless for endgame DLC content. While he is beastly mid-gameand has some decent classes, he's still absolutely useless in a no-grind run on a non-baby difficulty since he needs heavy babying to get to that point and that exp is better diverted elsewhere instead. His real use is passing on the pegapony class to his dotters and Underdog. Beyond eugenics, he's pretty much useless. I don't count Normal difficulty because anyone can beat Normal with their eyes closed.
If there is canon it’s Golden Deer. You deal with everyone and the final chapter is Fodlan’s New Dawn, referencing the main theme
I'm really into the dancer. Especially on timeskip Mercedes where she now 28 years old.
I never used battalions apart from the Stride ones.
Nothing. OP is just shit at videogames and think hes bad because he has a 30% str growth.
These threads are literally never accurate anyway, even Bernadetta is worse than him
I'm 4 hours in and he's one of the few units who isn't shit
Best game, you need her to fuck serwai too.
None whatsoever. You can always dismount if u need to tank archers for whatever reason.
It’s a shame too, Canderous is a much better character than Carth.
don't go into a thread about a game you haven't completed, retard. it's that simple, you knew their would be spoilers in the thread and you came in anyway
>Not giving everyone a battalion
If you give each person in you main team a battalion by chapter 3 they should have more than enough Authority
really wish the game would let me use school/war outfits without having to be a specific class. Default male Byleth is just so much better looking on him than any of the classes he can be
She is a really good tank. After seeing each party member's "role" I found myself using all of them in battle.
Pic related sucks.
They’re usually the best after gen 2
Not keeping prof level is a total dick move. I don't want to fish again and I need that renown for the statues.
>The death knight tries to fuck off because of the incoming nuke
>He gets nuked anyway
As funny as it was for my lysithea to chase the death knight around, i missed half a map of exp.
based null ghost poster
You keep you statue rank in ng+ Jack ass.
Only on chapter 9 but so far he's been my best unit behind MC and Edelgard. Caspar on the other hand has turned out to be a lacklustre piece of shit.
It's obvious Felix is an attacker and not a defender (unless he's in a bush against a bunch of axes) and having only a range 1 sword can get him in trouble in a positional way. Besides he's plus 5 atk with high dex and spd. It doesn't matter what he kills with to me. For some weird reason he almost never crits for me though.
Yeah, but the statues are not maxed out after the first playthrough, genius.
that's not how this works, this can be a pretty long game. i'm not gonna stop coming just because some shitters don't have the brains to comprehend that not everyone has completed or is at the same stage in the game. although i already am visiting threads more sporadically because of this.
and again, this is out of principle. Yea Forums would be a better board if people understood how to post properly. at the very least don't defend it.
>Make prof level a+ at ng+ start
>I have nothing to do
I hate this too user. It seems like a lot of people play new games at the first chance they get and complete them as soon as possible playing non stop just so they can spoil them for others.
>battalion vantage
>battalion wrath
>retribution
Is there a single character that can even touch Dimitri Alexander Blaiddyd, let alone defeat him?
Eat with everyone.
You need ingredients for that and early game you have nothing
Just fish
He has MP Gift and Evolution in the final mix version of 1
He’s my MVP for saving my ass during the malificent dragon fight
Donald just sat there and died
Yea Forums has spoiler tags and rules about spoilers for a reason. Obviously I can’t stop people here from being horrible human beings that deserve to be banned but at the very least I can try to educate you.
Edge just gave the game a 9. TH keeps winning
Plant some seeds and go fish, nibba. Hell, doing quests gives you a load of food items.
I don't stick to the 'canon' classes necessarily but I try to give everyone a class that fits them lorewise. I don't get people who make everyone wyvern riders, it's boring as shit and defeats the purpose of playing a SRPG in the first place. Bonus retard points for doing this and then complaining about the game being too easy (although it really is, even when played normally).
Christ why is everyone so fucking BAD at videogames in 4chans videogame board. Why do people never post the correct things in these threads.
living lockpick on a horse with a bow/lance
never had to spend cash or trashing inv space with keys.
thats worth a lot on its own
How strict is the class system? I have no idea what I'm doing and I better not fuck things up
I feel like its way too early to tell in which class who would excel unless you just keep them the way they start out
Also can every type of unit use every weapon? Can I actually make an armor archer?
You know those arenas in the training grounds. That
What do people find engaging about this game? It's pretty much a worse version of Persona 5 with a much more bland social link, battle and dungeon (in this case boring town/forest map) system. I can only play for one month in-game cycles before my brain gets too fucking bored and I can't concentrate on it anymore.
>I can’t stop people here from being horrible human beings that deserve to be banned but at the very least I can try to educate you.
Are you a game journo? You sound like a game journo?
>flayn = fucking useless
>Just pump her with charm
>Give her a sword
>Watch that dancer ability destroy shit
If I can get Edelgard to easily have 50charm flayn shouldn't be anymore difficult.
What are you talking about double D is trying to restore his people by devoting himself to the one man who helped him and can make it possible
He holds my team together. Speak for yourself
Every class can use every weapon, but latter on some classes get a +5 dmg to specific weapons, and also a boost to weapon exp.
You can totally make an armor archer, but you'll miss out on bowrange +1/+2 and bowfaire, for example. The only thing that classes lock you out of is magic, me for example I had Felix most of the pre-timeskip chapters as a dark mage to level his magic while mastering the classes (I don't want to spoil myself on class masteries) but he still used a sword just fine.
The only restrictions on weapons are:
>magic is locked to classes with blue font
>classes with blue font can cast any type of magic, so your mage with heal can still use heal
>mounted units cannot use gauntlets
>classes that “specialize” in a skill level it up faster while taking actions
These are the only restrictions. The only thing an archer does better than a fortress knight when both are holding bows is that an archer has the plus one range ability.
All the archers I've used have shit str, next run I'll make them all brigands with bows first
So how do you guys set up your Lorenz?
I like to go mage with him since he's naturally bulky and can frontline better than the other mages.
Swordmaster seems like a neat choice too since it gives him a 60% speed growth(Myrm, Thief and Merc having 50%) and a 50% str growth to go with his natural bulkyness.
I move their asses with gambit since it's hard having a reliable unit that can pull it off via combat art until you get crest holders in NG+
He has extremely good speed and dex growths which can make him into a dodge tank and consistent doubler. Point blank combat art is also good and synergizes with the fact that he wants you to make him specialize in stuff like axes and lances.
His str growth is average. Out of all your options for bow units he is easily the most offensive. Id argue ashe and ignatz are better either way for all the utility they get.
Bernadetta is the “worst” one since she tries to be a double monster with her crest but has low str growth. Thats not saying much in a game that has death blow and gives you stat bonuses for being in a class though. Tbh if you try to argue any character is bad or unusable in 3h you’re just an idiotic moron.
>that feel when a map is full of Warlocks and Mortal Savants
characters have intended classes the game nudges you towards with the areas they excel at so you can generally follow those and be fine- or just make every non-mage a wyvern rider as they're broken as hell.
Every class can use every physical weapon type (except mounts can use gauntlets) so armours can use bows, unfortunately magic is restricted to magic using classes so you cant make your own baron or dark flier equivalent
Honestly you might as well make everyone a brigand/mage first. +6 damage when attacking is crazy.
Archers are forever doomed to be RNG fucked. Archer growths is a meme in the FE community for a reason. It’s especially blatant in three houses since nothing is stopping you from giving a stone cold killer like Petra a bow.
>try this with Bernie
>mainly get two stat ups per level
>only 12 strength by level 20
Can't plan around bad RNG.
Bernadetta can fix her bad str and get a great ability for her if you fight her bad axe affinity to make her a Warrior(50% str growth and Wrath).
Also, Vengeance can reliably destroy things if you let her stay on low health.
Made him a Dark Knight because i was always needing him to range and at the time I got the mage staff that gives 1 range to magic attacks so it helped shove him into that area.
Personally don't know if he would've done better as a bow unit but I already had 3 of those.
I set him up as an Assassin and give him a Levin Sword until eventually making him a Dark Knight like everyone else. He’s got really good mixed defenses so Assassin helps splash some dodge in for when I use him as caster bait.
He's better than Ewan, Amelia and Donnel.
Naturally easy route into Wyvern and Death Blow and Point Blank Volley once leveled up leaves him a fairly good unit despite being behind in levels.
She gets deathblow thats all she needs holy fuck
>Want to upgrade weapons
>need Wootz Steel
>oh okay
>20x for Dragon Fist
Fuck you game
Basically use him like ignatz. Give him magic weapons and lances to make use of frozen lance and end up in a magic/meele hybrid like dark knight.
Neither Ewan or Amelia are bad if you bother to level them up
>ITT: Useless party members
No shut thing
They useless?
Step 1: Dump luck
Step 2: Master Assassin
Step 3: Get Lethality
Step 4: Use that shit where ever you want now
Step 5: Jerk off
Royal heart break is dope. Just team her up with Lat and spam RHB.
Neither is Cyril.
Amelia and Ewan are the worst units in the game if you don't grind them in the tower.
I put Shamir through Brigand and she has like double the strenght/dex + more speed.
Ingrid and Petra with Death Blow is stupid OP
Just send Flayn and her 40 res at level 30
Mage->Dark Mage->Dark Bishop->Dark Knight to give him Lifetaker and Fiendish Blow.
Ewan and Amelia are good, though. There's just no point to leveling them up because it's fucking Sacred Stones, you get multiple units that can solo the game right out the box so why bother with trainees?
Cyril actually just straight up sucks, he's not good even when leveled up and the only reason he can contribute is because of how easy 3H is in general. If the lunatic datamines are any indication, he'll be Fiona-level dead weight in DLC difficulties.
You're fucking kidding me right? Shine isnt anywhere near top tier but still has Cheer and Bless and decent enought to be an Sp bank, is not locked to to Energy only units like rein weissritter or trash like Seolla
I sincerely doubt that but I guess bad rng can happen or you are comparing them at vastly different levels or with shamir in an advanced class and bernadetta in intermediate/beginner
>kimahri sucks
God I hope so
>Ewan and Amelia are good, though. There's just no point to leveling them up because it's fucking Sacred Stones, you get multiple units that can solo the game right out the box so why bother with trainees?
They have the lowest growths in the game and Amelia is worse when leveled than Franz, Vanessa, Tana, Seth, Cormag... pretty much every mounted unit. Ewan is similarly outclassed by the other mages once fully leveled. The only thing they both truly excel at compared to the rest of the cast is the luck stat.
>Cyril actually just straight up sucks, he's not good even when leveled up
He starts of better than the FE8 trainees, is naturally leaning into a better class than any of them, and his growths are much better(even by direct comparison to his peers in this game).
And he has Point-Blank Volley.
You’re right about Amelia but not Ewan. Ewan has solid growths and can be a better druid than knoll
At worst a 3H unit is gonna stride bot, which is far more contribution than bad units in other games provide
Recruited Shamir at level 11, immediately put her on the way to get death blow and compared their stats before deciding on a promotion for Bernie. The additional Str from going into an advanced class still would put her 7 Str lower than Shamir.
>game where the only thing separating the characters apart are their limit breaks
>all the bois are straight up superior with renzokuken, punchhrushbooya spam and turbo spamming quick/AP/Pulse shots
>cant spam Degenerator like Quistis, can't reroll repeatedly for The End
>need to find magazines to train her shitty dog
>effectively is a damsel in distress or needs to be babysat even plotwise
WHAT'S WRONG WITH ASHE'S FUCKING VOICE
>Ewan has solid growths
45 mag and 35 spd is garbage. 50 HP and 50 Luck are his best growths.
> and can be a better druid than knoll
That's because Knoll is going Summoner every time because he's the worst mage in the game statwise(except Ewan until he catches up), and he's still better because he can grind his staff rank earlier AND his summons are better.
Also, Knoll's growths are actually better than Ewan's.
>has the best str gain
FUCK
>leveling in FF8
most people don't do that due to the scaling
Just play cards and Junction for easy stats.
Technically, Angel Wing Meteor spam can keep up with other character's limit breaks, damage wise. But it requires a stupid amount of set-up when you can just go unga bunga with the boy's Limit Breaks, so it's more of a curiosity.
>Not making him a Bow Knight Cav with locktouch to clean up chests
Lmaoing at your life
>Level 20
>10 strength
Brigand Cyril
HP 85%
Str 50%
Mag 35%
Dex 60%
Spd 60%
Luck 50%
Def 30%
Res 25%
Cha 40%
Wyvern Rider Cyril
HP 85%
Str 50%
Mag 30%
Dex 60%
Spd 60%
Luck 50%
Def 35%
Res 25%
Cha 40%
Wyvern Lord Cyril
HP 85%
Str 55%
Mag 30%
Dex 60%
Spd 70%
Luck 50%
Def 35%
Res 30%
Cha 40%
Why do people act like Cyril has bad growths?
People don't actually fact-check and just parrot what others say.
sup
>none of those at 100%
that seems like a bad way to get screwed off by having shit stats
I tried using him because I always try to make Villagers work if I can, the problem however was more so that he lacked any really place in my army.
>Petra is a Wyvern Rider with Archery
>Ashe, Ignatz (If you recruit him late), and Bernie were all better archers.
>Caspar and Dedue were both better axe users
He just kind of existed
Just put her in Brigand
She needs death blow far more than darting blow
Just because one unit sucks doesn't mean another can't, especially in a game where the deployment slots are low yet you can recruit anyone you want. Why you'd use shitters other than challenge runs or support completion I'd never know
Do classes affect stat growth?
>Lvl 34
>16 Spd
Yes.
>boss does his AOE slam
>one shots 5 characters
yes
>fat and slow
>late storyline promotion
>weak muscles
lets face it, the only reason he even gets fielded is because he's mandatory
And because muh Melee.
Useless robot is every game she's in
More in story than gameplay, since she isn't playable
This tranny
Are you fucking HIGH?
>She was useless in P3 not having magic attacks and a shitty tank that can't do damage in PQ
Give her a damn Levin sword fool. We only have 2 mages.
Literally a slighly weaker Edelgard which still makes him OP what are you talking about
>Caspar on the other hand has turned out to be a lacklustre piece of shit.
Good I was wondering why mine was sow awful as a grappler in my first file. In my BE playthrought I decided to make him an armored knight and he's surprisingly fast and tanky for one
unzip all your bait on swarm day
>shitty tank in PQ
>literally makes your team immortal
>DA MAN, Chie and Aigis literally could take on bosses without needing backline members, those were just an added bonus
Which flowers give the str boosting item? My leonie isn't doing so good this time around.
her main duty was sending her off to kill mages as her and mercedes were my only people with decent res stats
Purple flower seeds for rocky burdocks
Make sure to save before planting
Knoll has 5% more magic than ewan and 5% more res and 30% more hp. In every other stat they are equal except luck where ewan beats him by 30%, don’t pretend luck isn’t a relevant stat btw. Considering their mag and res differences are insignificant they can be consisdered basically equal in terms of growths other than ewan being able to reliably dodge and crit more. So now we compare bases.
Ewan starts with 3 magic, 2 skill, 5 spd, 5 lck, 0 def, and 3 res at level 1
Shamans promotional gains are: +1hp +2mag +0skl +1spd +1lck +1def +2res
Since Ewan gets 10 levels before becoming druid he can very well outdo knolls bases at level 1 shaman when knoll starts at level 8-9 shaman.
Knoll starts with 13 magic, 9 skill, 8 spd, 0 lck, 2 def and 10 res
In other words for knoll to actually be better ewan would have to basically get no level ups on magic, skill, and speed for 18 levels which would be when he roughly catches up to knoll in levels. The only factual argument against ewan here is availability and having to be babied when he joins halfway into the game, which is only valid if you’re an ltcfag instead of a rankfag. Furthermore you get Ewan far earlier than knoll and knoll also has to be babied by the time he comes.
Another thing ewan has that no other mage has is being able to use all magic types in NG+.
it's cute, have sex
These aren't bad on paper, until you realize that other people in 3H have comparable growth rates in the same classes while also having higher bases across the board and not joining severely underleveled, doubly so for missing important class masteries your other characters should already have.
He's not shit in a vacuum, he's shit specifically as a trainee.
Make Mercedes a mage then.
When you’re in a class you also get a fat visible bonus to certain stats just for being in that class
and MC? where are you dumping your stat boosters to? hopefully not ingrid
The reason Sylvain is such a popular recruit is because he's a freebie if you play as Fem Byleth.
Otherwise I'd recommend Felix and Ingrid before him.
Lmao what? Hes a godly bow knight. Is this another case of
>grrr hes brown i hate him
It is.
Hubert does nothing but suck Edel cunt and have 3 speed at level 40 but hes le based edgy man so no one calls out that hes a shit character or unit.
At least Dedue is a godly unit with beast mode defense
you don't need speed when you can delete everything in a single hit
I just hate his stupid whiny nerd voice. Whenever he talks I just want to trip him down some stairs and shove his head in a toilet
it's funny because his VA looks like him but with red hair
Her japanese va is so far superior to english
blue lions
Hubert has a threat range of 13 fucking spaces and oneshots everything. He's like having access to a debugging feature that lets you delete an enemy of your choice with total impunity each turn.
Hanneman and Lysithea are better full offensive casters though
Dedue is footlocked by his proficiencies and doesn't level through the timeskip on top of missing several first chapters in it
>make him adjutant to MC
>steam roll MC
>bank the exp
wow. it's like he was with us the whole time
>Considering their mag and res differences are insignificant they can be consisdered basically equal in terms of growths other than ewan being able to reliably dodge and crit more
No, 30% Luck is not Equal to 30% HP and 5% Mag. HP is significantly better as a stat.
Also, Luck does not factor into Critical, only Crit Avoid and Avoid.
That being said:
>Don’t pretend luck isn’t a relevant stat btw.
In most cases, it isn't relevant, but Knoll is the rare case where it is relevant, since he's just that unlucky.
>The only factual argument against ewan here is availability and having to be babied when he joins halfway into the game, which is only valid if you’re an ltcfag instead of a rankfag.
No, not having to be babied is a legit advantage in any run.
>Furthermore you get Ewan far earlier than knoll
Late Chapter 12 to early Ch 15 isn't far earlier.
>and knoll also has to be babied by the time he comes.
Knoll promotes immediately and becomes a summoner with Heal Staffs, outclassing whatever Ewan was intending to do for a long time to come. No babying at all required.
>Another thing ewan has that no other mage has is being able to use all magic types in NG+.
Not entirely true, but he is the only one who can do so in a legit way.
Not that it matters when Anima is leagues better than Dark and Light anyway. Ewan should always go Mage Knight unless you are planning to hit the Lagdou Ruins in the postgame.
Ewan ends up better than Knoll, yes. He's worse for most of his existence(because SummonHealer is better than shitty offensive mage), and Knoll is the worst of the other mages.
Ewan is shit.
Oh, and just for funsies, level 1 Shaman Ewan vs Lv1 Summoner Knoll(the actually relevant comparison):
Knoll has:
4 more HP
3 more magic
4 more skill
1 more defense
2 more speed and 1 more Con(functionally 3 AS, a big ass advantage that takes Ewan 9 levels to surpass- by which time Knoll will have gotten more speed himself)
1 more def
Staves
Summons
over Ewan.
Not even. Just give him an exp gem and stand next to him (Byleths personal gives bonus xp) and watch him gain 10 levels in one aux battle.
Ive been wondering something is it better to wait to recruit characters I noticed some have huge gains between chapters
Hanneman has access to Memeteor which gives him niche uses but his spell selection and stats are straight up worse than Hubert's.
With Lysithea it's far closer, but I would argue it's actually the other way around, she has Hubert beat as an offensive mage with utility thanks to Warp and access to Gremory, but in terms of raw offense, he's arguably more practical. Speed means nothing because oneshotting something twice is functionally equal to oneshotting something once; meanwhile, she loses out a whole point of threat range even as a Dark Knight, and the opportunity cost for making her one is two uses of Warp, whereas for Hubert, it's nothing.
Annette died against the Death Knight and I needed a quick replacement.
>dub
>proceeds to use agi on minotaur
>smirk
>squelches your whole party
Truly heroic
Cristophe
Bow knight are aweful wtf are you talking about
Do Americans all look this way?
No people are just aweful or base their judgment of the game on litteraly one run and decide if a character is good or bad. I did 3 runs, used Lorenz for the 3, and he's always been a fucking monster.
>implying Blue Lions isn't the closest to canon
Literally the entire pregame is centered around the Blue Lions and their characters. Every single member of the Lions has some relation to the story as a whole, while anyone other than the Lords in the other houses are basically filler.
Dedue:relevant in every route post timeskip, also Duscar's impact on the backstory
Felix: His dad has a role in the pre timeskip
Ashe: An entire chapter is dedicated to fighting his adoptive father
Sylvain: An entire chapter is dedicated to fighting his brother
Mercedes: Her brother is the Death Knight
Annette: Her father is Gilbert
Ingrid: Was engaged to Felix's brother, which ties into Dimitri's mental health in all routes
>Gen 2 is the only thing relevant for endgame DLC content
>Passes on Pegasus Rider and Underdog to his kids, making him a God Tier 1st gen unit by default
>"b-but he's useless though"
????
>canto
>four range
>eight movement
>bowfaire
uh no sweetie
hubert gets dark spikes far too late and he never gets luna.
How exactly is that a relevant comparison when shaman is only the first tier?
Also, you’re just going by ltcfag arguments which I pointed at in my post. The only time where ewan is factually worse is when you don’t touch arena and map battles between chapters at all and there are arenas before knoll joins that he can use.
I'm having this issue too. For now its:
>Lorenz/Hilda
>Ignatz/Marianne
>Raphael/Leonie (the meatheads)
>Lys/Cyril (because i like that she gets to play big sis)
>Claude/Shamir
Based on the supports i feel like lorenz is falling pretty hard for marianne so i'm not sure if i just want to pair them instead. Also i kinda want to see catherine/shamir and i really want to get someone for flayn. it's unfortunate that i went feMC.
what is your level spread across all characters? i'm curious.
Get on that fucking ballista.
No
The online auction house has people selling all of your crafting materials for like 20k for 1000.
>You can get a shitload of free stat boosts in NG+ on every Explore
>But only if you buy an Amiibo
And here I thought the cheat DLC wouldn't come out until October.
Nah he just average. Which for a villager unit notorious for being the broken bois in fire emblem its unacceptable.
When you stack him up to gods like lysethia, hilda, edgelord, and duedue like hes literally into the trash tier
how do you still not have an amiibo in 2019, do you even bing bro
>going anywhere near a discussion thread for a game you haven't finished
you have nobody but yourself to blame retard
wait is it every time you explore? i used most of mine and it just said it's been used even though i only got to use one amiibo
>kept talking shit all game
>stopped talking shit when I murdered both his parents in front of him
both?
They take one inventory space each and I had 3 weapons and one equipable side item on every character well before timeskip. In later maps with more than 2 chests it's really convenient.
As I understand, all the Amiibo items respawn every time, but I know for sure that the Tomb ones do.
Mine was a tanky boi. Made him a great knight and had about 40 armor. At level 35. No one could kill him.
Leonie with axes. She will double everything and shit damage
IDK his whore step mother anyways.
Blue Lions. It's the most character driven story and is executes it pretty well.
Best smile and best legs.
makes sense. just wondering because i remember getting to only scan my marth amiibo and one other generic non FE one and those were the only ones accepted.
My Ignatz was a dodging crit machine.
Haha Haha blue lions final boss on lunatic is easier than golden deers final boss on hard
Wyvern if you trained her Authority, otherwise Warrior is an acceptable alternative for grounded battalions.
Black Eagles & Blue Lions are plot relevant while Golden Deer is kinda there all things considered, which they make up for it by having a lot of lore
Lenght wise, Black Eagles is a good starting point imo since it's the shortest of all routes
>bow knight with locktouch
Nah he's fucking great
I made Sylvain a wyvern Lord and he was my best unit. Maybe try that next time
you could make Valbar good with wyvern lord...
What the fuck, hes easily in my top 3 units currently. But him on a wyvern, give him a bow, and he doubles on everything under the sun while dodging whatever comes for him. Best archer in the game