There is not a single unit in Fire Emblem I hate more than Eliwood. He is the worst fucking Lord...

There is not a single unit in Fire Emblem I hate more than Eliwood. He is the worst fucking Lord. Lyn might technically be worse but I hate Eliwood more.
He can't do damage
He can't double
He's squishy
His horse only gives him 7 mov
Shit

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He's been underwhelming in my playthroughs, too. Though promoting to cavalier isn't too bad.

I hear he's quite good in ranked HHM runs but I don't know how that works.

I hate his kid more
>basically dead weight the whole game
>can’t be promoted until the almost the end of the game

The only reason people like him because he was in smash.

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sounds like you need to play a fire emblem with a real lord

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His son is even more useless

nobody can stand up to Marth, the best lord the series will ever get

Ike exists though

Marth’s a shit character and a mediocre unit. If he wasn’t the first no one would care about him.

he's good in fe3b2 but weak in fe11

Hector exists though

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he can solo carry shadow dragon with a rapier, wtf you on about?

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His descendent is better

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Chrom exists though

>stands on an open field while enemies just run into his sword

Based

Who's better, Seth or Frederick?

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>Lyn might technically be worse

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more like
>hides behind robin while enemies run into his spells

Seth is an absolute chad

He's weak because every map is a seize map. You need to getthe weak lord to the throne. Same reason why Marth is weak. If they were like the lords we get now, they could easily solo the whole game.

Seth can solo FE8 on hard, Frederick is good, but Robin is better. In the context of their own games, Seth is better.

no they just suck

compare them to rutger/dieck/etc

>If they were like the lords we get now, they could easily solo the whole game.

But they weren't, so they will forever be known as shit.

Seth is one of the best units in the series, Frederick is one of the weaker units in FE13

She is though, strictly worse than eliwood
>shittier stats
>useless promotion bonus

^

They're weak for a good reason. FE 11, 12, and 6 are some of the best for gameplay.

>give main character a legendary Prf weapon
>he can't fucking use it because it weighs his noodle arms down

Fuck I hate GBA Con and Wt

I'm not complaining about their weakness but the reason isn't very good. Marth gets his FE1 stats but there's some major changes (like a weapon triangle, everyone else getting to reclass, much higher enemy stats, etc) which makes him unintentionally weak in FE11. Roy doesn't have a good reason to be weak either, if he had a bit more utility (like leaf) rather than everything being strictly an escort mission the game wouldn't be any worse.

The ironic this is the Binding Blade makes him ridiculously fucking broken for the 15 times he gets to swing it.

seth kills everything

Did you forget Sigurd, Hector, or Ike? Marth is a lil sissy compared to his descendant

Has anyone here ever done a ranked run in FE6 or FE7?

only autists care about ranked/ltc runs.

Eliwood at least gets a horse.
Lyn gets a weapon she can't even hold without dying

please don't bully eliwood
he's doing his best

yeah but I can't be the only one here with autism

Fair enough, user. Fair enough.

I think the point of Roy was that he was a strategist first and a warrior second.

He would be fine that way if he had the charisma skill

He somehow had a harem so he must have done something right.

There's like a canyon wide gap between "dead fucking weight for over 95% of the game", and "Can solo the game".

>Lyn has worse stats
Maybe I overleveled her, but she was fucking great

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Something something "personal experience means nothing."
Lyn is trash
Her growths are trash
Her promote is trash
Her sweet legendary sword weighs more than she does, preventing her from doubling with it ever.

i think she's useable if you play lyn mode first
at least she can double with the mani katti

The better question is Seth of Ryoma? Both are absolutely nuts.

Seth is an absurd unit by himself, ryoma is only good by virtue of having one of the best weapons in a game where good weapons usually come with absurd downsides.
In either case though, both exist in piss easy games, so it barely matters how broken they are.

Ryoma has a 2 range sword, has crits out the ass, has a 80% avoid, and murder everything with Vantage and Astra after he hits low health. Give him a Kagero as a backpack and he murders even harder.

12.

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part of me loves that Eliwood can't actually wield his Buster Sword huge endgame weapon BECAUSE it's fuck-huge

Seth.
Ryoma is good but Seth is what happens when your Est started level grinding before the start of the series and only got good level ups.

That works for a character like Leif who isn't very strong and is mandatory but makes up for it some other way (lots of support buffs and bends a game mechanic in his favor by never tiring out) but Roy just becomes a deadweight you drag to the throne for 20 maps before soloing the last 4.

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i did one for 6, fir is probably the best unit for ranked runs because she carries the exp and combat ranks alone so hard

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Seth is Ryouma if you got him in chapter 1 and had him for every chapter afterward

sigurd

Reminder that Seth was injured at the start of the game. Imagine him at full power. Absolute unit

>promoted mount, silver weapon in ch1, carries the team in early chapters but not in later chapters
Sigurd is a jeigan

so is seth

Do you even know what a jeigan is?

Her growth are the highest in her game
That said she managed to be bad either way

>Seth
>Not carrying your team in the late chapters
Have you seem his growth rates? They are ridiculous for a prepromote.

Jeigans are never bad units
Dropping off in the mid-late game doesn't invalidate their contributions in the early game
Especially in a game like FE6 where much of the difficulty is frontloaded into the early-game

heh....... didn't want to play lyn mode?...... you'll regret that decision...................... kid

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I haven't played FE7 in a long while so remind me what happens if you skip Lyn mode.

>doing Lyn mode means Sain is the best cavalier
>not doing Lyn mode means Lowen is the best cavalier
>doing Lyn mode means that Florina is the best unit in the game
>not doing Lyn mode means Fiora is the best unit in the game
Bases > growths people

it was a joke

>carries the team in early chapters but not in later chapters
The only reason Sigurd doesn't carry as much in chapter 6 is because Forseti exists.

It means that Lyn, Sain, Kent, Wil, and most importantly Florina start off really shitty because they start at level 3-4 compared to the like 8-10 they could have from Lyn mode
Erk also starts at level 1 without Lyn mode but that's less noticable since his combat is good from that level and you never want to leave him out in the open anyway
Same with Matthew

>Lyn gets shat on by everything (even more than usual)
>Balista firing at sain, kent and lyn
>Eventually you have to rescue lyn, to avoid risking her dying, bringing huge penalties to one of the cavs
>Which of course are not the monsters they are if you play Lyn mode so they may die as well

you mean falaflame?

the only reason sigurd doesnt carry in chapter 6 it is because he got fat after eating too much in arvis BBQ party LOL

Shit, I meant chapter 5.

Sigurd sucks. I can never keep him alive through an entire playthrough.

Why did he have to get it so hard man?

Hector is fucking trash. Eliwood and Lyn are some of the best units in the game.

user reverse growths isn't the normal FE7 experience

Explain your thought process
Hector starts better, grows better, and ends better
He's the only Lord in the game that can hold his own against enemies from the beginning, and therefore is the only lord that can naturally gain EXP without babying

>in final chapter
>bosses one shot even my best units that were ridiculously OP right to the end.

You kind have to baby him because he takes forever to move his fat ass anywhere, but that's not really an issue if you are not a ranked/LTC autist.

How

I've only played Eliwood Normal so far but Uhai was the only boss that was kinda difficult
But nothing that can't be solved with Pent Harken and Athos aka the fucksquad

>recruit requirement: heavy armor
Fuck this. Do I really need the stats if the game won't let me get support to B yet?

post some good gba hackroms

I'm surprised Sigurn didn't become a vengeful spirit hellbent for taking his wife away from him and betraying him in the end.

>falling for that literal reddit tier bait

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Cool. What level did you end up promoting your units at? I normally promote ASAP but I'm worried I won't get enough exp that way.
And for the combat rank is there a good place to OHKO enemies and bring that up?

lvl 20 are good for the exp rank also you have to kill so many reinforcements through the game that is not really that hard to level your units
the western isles are good maps for the combat ranks, there are so many steel axe pirates and fighters that you can use for your thiefs to get lvl 20 easily you just have to bring like 20 iron swords

After you put some levels on him. Frederick is a fucking godsend in Lunatic.

wow, I can't remember the last unit I promoted at 20. This is going to be weird. Thanks for the tips.

early on i'd agree but lyn's promotion is absolutely awful whilst Eliwood somewhat redeems himself by getting a horse and lances (the best gba weapon type)

>lances (the best gba weapon type)
Fuck off Sain.

Have we forgotten Ephraim?

How do you skip Lyn? Every time I start a new game in FE7 it gives me the Lyn tutorial chapters.

If you've unlocked Hector Hard Mode and you start a new game you can choose which Lord to start as on which difficulty.

Marth isn't a weak character. He's just average.

>The only thing that makes him valuable is his starting weapon
>It's not even unique

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He is better then his son.