GREEDY DEVS BTFO

>Yea Forums will literally support a practice WORSE than piracy (for both sides, since at least piracy is free) just to hurt “da esjaydubyoos”
Why can’t you people just play videogames? Why do you have to turn everything into some war, where you’ll do anything to “hurt the other side” even at your own expense?

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Fucking classic. This is why you do research before making accusations publicly. So fucking glad I never bought subnautica

Find one post in this thread bitching about them being sjws.

because my life is empty and conflict is the only thing that gets me out of bed

Because some people want to play videogames that have multiplayer for cheap you mongoloid it's not hard

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If the kikes are going to turn children into trannies and brainwash our women against us, then at the very least I'm allowed to stick it to them in small ways like this. Fuck you

Scummy devs with unscrupulous business practices are more harmful than key sites.

go home tinybuild fag

>i'm going to get back at jews by giving more of my money to jews
are you retarded?

>We were wrong BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS OTHER THING PAY ATTENTION TO THAT INSTEAD
Classy.

There isn't a single post on this thread about sjws. Kill yourself

We didn't start the fire.

Those aren't the only companies people are buying keys of though.

>implying this is the first thread about this
Don't be a disingenuous faggot
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/473960212

drink bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you dumb fucking faggot ass retard

Yea Forumsedditors are seething at this based post

if you think anyone here is going to read another thread to justify your mentally ill posting habits it might be time for your thorazine

Wait. Did you really search the catalogue for proof that someone on/v/ has called them sjws who deserved it? Holy shit user

Who do gray market keys hurt? Player gets a cheap game, and the publisher gets (most) of their sales that would otherwise likely be lost to piracy.
Literally all they're doing is buying keys where they can get them cheap (Humble bundles, sales) and selling them back second hand in a way that doesn't trick the customer with illusory scarcity like limited-time sales do

If they don't want people buying their keys for less, they can stop putting them on sale

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G2A is just simply a key reselling platform which could be replaced by other sites. The credit card stealers didn't get their keys from G2A, they most likely bought the keys from other sites like humble bundle so how is it g2a's fault?

>If they don't want people buying their keys for less, they can stop putting them on sale
But that would require them to have foresight instead of chasing short-term profits.

I can call someone retarded without supporting anything, retard.

>open archive
>search subnautica sjw
>click first result
damn...

This is bait right?

What is your beef with people carding keys? The buyer gets a legit copy and everybody saves money in the process.

The problem comes indie developers don't properly regulate their store from said thieves. See G2A den of thieves

>for both sides, since at least piracy is free
Many developers are choosing to remove options like DirectIP and LAN for all multiplayer aspects of their games, making it harder for both direct paying owners and pirates to play them. At this point, if they're getting financial and legal headaches, then they deserve it for the roadblocks they've put in the way of people who want to "just play videogames" you mouthbreather.

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Zoom zoom mobile poster

>G2A
>Have (or had) to pay for ''protection'' against scammers using heir site
>The same scammers that they themselves were know too protect because they were bringing a lot of trafic too the site
>charged an ''inactivity fee'' if your account sat empty for too long
>At the launch of the website more than half of the keys were already activated/fake
>Next to zero customer support and if they ever did message you back you would have threaten them with legal action for them to just not go ''we can't help you with that :^)''
>If you did, there was a 50/50 chance that they would just outright ban your account
>Try to spread false info on gaming websites by having one of their ''interns'' write an article for the very company that he works for while trying to make it sound like he is some thirdparty
>Spread their marketing like cancer on sites like youtube, twitter anf facebook
>Actually pay google to have their site come out on top when searching for tinybuild games
>Now they have been cought with their pants down, selling game keys bought with stolen bank info/cards
>once someone actually points this out and demand that they explain themselves they just go ''There is no problem :^)'' like usual or even worse: ''B-but if we didn't do it someone else MUCH worse would! ;^(''

I don't care if you like cheap shit or say that you hate the devs, it is painfully obvious that the defence force is either full of shitposters or shills

Why does Yea Forums hate developers so much? Is it jealousy?

I thought subnautica sold like hotcakes though?

>Now they have been cought with their pants down, selling game keys bought with stolen bank info/cards
[citation needed]

Do you have problems with reading comprehension?

>tinybuild
good

dumb phoneposter

g2a privates cheeper keys for multiplayer games that big jew companies or valve does. Fuck yourself you piece of shit game developer, you don't deserve anything.

subnautica is a trash SJW game with a literal goblino mutt MC, and is only praised by mentally ill normalfag trannies like speedonvhs adamantium and zerraina

Damn, G2A is fairly based if I'm being honest here.

third world goblin telling you devs that you deserve nothing

How much do you get payed by G2A for shitposting? 20 cents a post? 50? And entire freedumb buck? All of the shit I just posted can readily be found on Google, youtube, other gaming websites and in some cases even G2As own FAQ or fansites. Not to mention the fact that there are way more devs that have pointed this shit out. not just the tinybuild and subnuatica devs.

You clearly never played it.

>Find it yourself bro
So no proof then.

please publish your trash on the epic game store so i don't have to see it anymore

>bought shadowbringers eu key for 20 gbp on g2a
>activation key was on a russian print prepaid card
>worked without hitch
thank you russia for good regional pricing

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So I take it you blame eBay for people selling stolen shit on it right? If not how much does ebay pay you, shill?

>A game with no political system or even any other living humans is somehow SJW
>This same game is designed around you riding around in vehicles killing fish and ayy lmaos while trying not to drown

You have clearly never played they game

WAIT, HE ACTUALLY BACKPEDALED!? AFTER THAT DRAMATIC SHIT!? LOL

But it has a non-white MC! That must mean it's bad.

prepare yourselves for a million MUH GUNS posts

why is this quote from the actual dev actually admitting they were wrong not getting more attention?

Zoom zoom, phoneposter.

Because that would diminish the narrative.

>So I take it you blame eBay for people selling stolen shit on it right? If not how much does ebay pay you, shill?
I never mentioned them and they actually follow the law in circumstances where this happends and compensate the buyer, the victim and/or the supplier if this is the case

>please publish your trash on the epic game store so i don't have to see it anymore
Oh, you think I'm som sort of buthurt dev? I'm not, I just used to buy/sell a few keys from G2A but stopped after getting scammed twice as both buyer and seller with G2A just shrugging and doing nothing. The fuckers even tried that ''inactivity fee'' shit on me so I just chargebacked the money and blacklisgted them from my bank account.

>So no proof then.
I tried to post some proof but I reached the character limit at 5 links so I just gave up on that. Is it really that hard to just go on google and write ''G2A news''?

Every time I need a crack or cheap shit, Russia delivers.
God bless Russia.

I dont understand this board sometimes. People rail against greedy publishers and entitled developers and restrictive stores, but somehow G2A is bad? I've never used them, for the record, but what about them exactly makes them worse than Hitler.

This is like when we had actual shills for the repressive Chinese government re: the situation in Hong Kong in full defense mode last night. How does that make sense? Yea Forums HATES the chinese government, or it says it does. Is contrarianism for it's own sake all you really are?

>beg Steamfags for money
>and then beg China for money
>and then beg Tim Sweeney for money
>and then beg G2A for money
>complain about capitalism but then love it
Are the Subnautica devs the greediest and most spineless people around?

Why are banks allowed to get away with charge back fees anyway.

i don't like g2a or grey market key resellers in general. they are one step above commercial pirates, and i hope they get blackballed off of the internet.

every piece of media is a political statement in some way

if you prefer they can just deny you access to the financial system

I almost believe they squandered the money on stupid shit, did nothing with their success to improve on the game and now they are in panic mode.

Fuck Subnautica devs for shitting up Natural Selection 2.

>You know what we should do as a small indie studio?
>Use an already existing engine?
>No, make a brand new one from scratch
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>I tried to post some proof but I reached the character limit at 5 links
So shorten it to 4 links?

>they actually follow the law in circumstances where this happends and compensate the buyer, the victim and/or the supplier if this is the case
Just like G2A then.

Here is source, BTW. Not Op, but since some people are being lazy faggots:

(and no, I am not going to post a pastebin/archive for you)

Ops Article:
rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/14/g2a-responds-to-subnautica-devs-claim-for-300000-restitution-we-didnt-exist-back-then/

Subnautica Dev admits he was wrong:
kotaku.com/developer-fumes-about-keyseller-g2a-but-admits-he-was-1837252091

As for the Factorio investigation, it's underway still, confirmed in 2nd article:
>Reached over email last night, Scott Klonan, community manager for the Factorio studio said Wube agreed to an independent audit to determine the amount of money stolen a month ago. It will take a few more weeks to complete the audit.

If you want to see a general consensus about anything you should go to reddit.
I'm not even commenting on your opinion, I'm just saying how things are.
Since ideas can only survive on their own merit, that means it's hard for retards to push their ideas, but that also means you will never see a retard free environment.

>re: the situation in Hong Kong in full defense mode last night.
What'd I miss?

most don't even do great games

which is sad because NS was a great hl mod

People shitposting about the protests and some user insisting the police brutality and that one girl getting her eye shot out was a false flag, and then just the cop panicking when he got mobbed by protestors, and insisting that Protestors trying to block people from getting on their flights was going to turn world support against them

>Ask for proof of G2A's wrongdoings
>Get proof instead of the Subnautica devs being wrong about their claims of G2A's wrongdoings

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if I want a game without supporting devs I pirate
if the keys aren't stolen g2a has already supported the devs for me so I pirate

Join the military.

I thought user was asking for proof that G2A WASN'T in the wrong

But yeah, the 300,000 charge back thing has been blown out, now the guys full salty grapes

outside of bulk sale key buying, there is no legitimate way for anyone to be reselling keys on these sites at a profit. at best the keys are arbitrage and at worst they are bought with stolen financial information. everyone involved in that site is a parasite. do not expect to be liked.

It may have but its what have you done for me lately. They expect to live off sales from it forever? Not all games continue to sell through like that.

>there is no legitimate way for anyone to be reselling keys on these sites at a profit.
REGIONAL
PRICING

subnautica was released from ea last year. maybe a lot of its were front-loaded by ea. i don't know. but they haven't had time to do anything besides put an expansion into ea.

because g2a bad, indie devs good

there is nothing legitimate about arbitrage, parasite
what will happen is that all of those markets will end up locked out of international gifting

I buy keys from g2a if the game looks interesting but the devs are assholes. I get an official copy of the game, the devs don't get shit except some chargebacks. And as a bonus there is a high chance they will seethe or have seethed about g2a

i never used a key site in my life but this entire situation is just sad on the dev side
i don't know in what measure G2A is guilty of the shit they accuse them, if any, but they are handling this with at least professionalism

devs are just REEEEEing on social media

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I Guess that you missed the part about them wanting more money to actually help you in those situations huh? You know, the entire "G2A Shield" scam?

>indie devs versus g2a
I hope they both lose

hows Mr. Shickelgrubersteins boot taste?

>devs are just REEEEEing on social media
because absolutely NOTHING illegal has been done so they're trying to rally a digital mob, twitter being the last place you can legally lynch someone

imagine being a 90 iq pollack that ran to hong kong to resell russian game keys at a profit and complaining about jewish tactics

KEK, gives more cred to G2A beeing innocent but it doesn't really disprove any of the shit they have done.

Except G2A has been around since 2010.
So they were well within the time of the keys being sold.

oh haha nice I guess that means G2A is okay and doesn't sell stolen keys right guys

The Subnautica devs should be asking for an extra 5000 dollars of handling fee

>selling games outside ESTABLISHED MARKET PLACE
>selling games outside STEAM
Deserves it. Those who betray GabeN will pay the price.

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Hong Kong protests are financed by westerners to install (((democracy)))

Brainlet

there is no way that hong kongers want to overwhelmed by mainland bugpeople even if those english signs and u.s. flags smell like neocon faggotry

here we go

Not the marketplace though, so no you're actually wrong

>Regional pricing
Even with that in mind it would still be impossible for sellers too earn a profit unless they get their keys for 15-20 cents or lower. Which is not what keys cost in ruassia even with heavy sales

Isn't regional pricing dead in water as region lock is a thing now?

>The company (under the original name Go2Arena) was established in 2010
G2A's Marketplace != G2A. back then, they were directly involved in the trafficking of stolen goods. now they're trying to use this to cover up their past by pretending they launched with the Marketplace.

go to bed charlie

It's only 30k but I get paid so I'll tell them it was 300k
Jononismsism

not sure if schizo or just retarded

Maybe they thought it was G2A and someone internally messed up.

the G2A deal was that they would pay back 10x any amount proven by a 3rd party audit that was caused by fraud

How did they make the deal if they werent around then?

because they only made a few weeks ago when people made a huge shit storm about them

>Have (or had) to pay for protection
100% false
>Charged an "Inactivity fee"
100% false
>More than half the keys were already activated/fake
Again, 100% false
>Next to zero customer support
You'll literally get an email back within an hour or two, even without their Shield shit
>50/50 chance
Again, 100% false
>Marketing cancer
Right because GMG and Kinguin are so different, right?
>caught with their pants down
Where, how, when? They haven't been caught doing anything wrong, you fucking moron
>once someone actually points this out
No one has pointed out anything.

Imagine being this much of a faggot that you actually write up line after line after line of bogus shit with literally zero sources.
Are you some faggot indie dev who made a shit game and think it's not successful because of the evil G2A?

I'm all for destroying shady businesses
but this "jump on G2A no matter the story" shit is literal reddit mob tier bullshit
do you lose all your critical thinking abilities the moment you start dealing with someone you don't like?
or are you acting like sjw females who call rape on everything and feign ignorance just to get rid of people they don't like

>protecting a stolen key reseller website for free
lol

You really have to blame reseller sites like G2A who don't give all that much of a shit about the people buying from their marketplace. They not only bring down the quality of the key reselling grey market but also lend it a bad rep like weve been seeing in this latest back and forth. G2A in particular actually has had a damn long history of trying to screw its user base with other charges like "protection" fees, having to pay to reactivate your account if you logged out for more than half a year (I think they made it longer now though), not to mention that monthly subscription horseshit they tried to pull where it defaulted to on so people didn't even know they were being charged for it until they saw their bank account.

>stolen key reseller website
>I won't post any actual evidence of this, just claims from shitty indie devs like Subnautica and punch club!
Keep crying faggot, maybe your shitty Indie Game will have better success on Itch.io

maybe the g2a founders will get the kim dotcom treatment lol

>needs evidence
:)

don't you dare accuse the great g2a of facilitating money laundering unless you have a key bought using stolen money within your possession right now

>post incriminating evidence
:))

>Implying everyone who passes through here pays so much attention, they saw a thread about the same subject 2 DAYS BEFORE

It's one thing if that thread was like an hour before this one but some people actually play video games instead of being here 24/7, user.

There wouldn't be the problem if the greedy kikes didn't sell the games outside of Steam to avoid Steam tax. Not to mention people who sell the keys, usually already bought the keys from legal source, so publishers already got the money.

>Company literally built around regurgitating fucking keys piss cheap
>Not scummy as fuck
I don't get the people that think key sites are your friend, they're obviously less legit than shit like epic or steam could ever be and those are still shit.