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I agree user. The 2nd game writing seemed like they loved to sniff their own butts.

But it wasn't even good worldbuilding. Kotor 1 had a great premise and set up the whole universe. 2 made a retarded plot after the fact.

Kotor 1 is literally Republic vs. Empire with different ships

>2 made a retarded plot after the fact.
Literally the story of Obsidian as a studio.

Actual fucking brainlets who probably think Fallout 3 is peak RPG

>ree give me the same thing over and over again
You probably liked the prequels too.

You mean kotor 1 copied elements of the movies that had been released at the time and fanboys ate it up because they're the stupidest people on the planet.

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Your entire argument for why kotor 2 isn't good is completely fallacious.

It's about the light side vs the dark side as a whole so it makes sense. They still made Star Wars feel fresh while maintaining familiarity.

>still hasn't counteracted his point

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>and fanboys ate it up
Fanboys are the retards who want their dumb entertainment to be taken more seriously than it deserves. Normies loved KOTOR1. Fanboys love KOTOR2. Same shit as with Fallout 3 vs. New Vegas.

The game is constantly shilling the "morally gray" centrist bullshit. What are you smoking?

I hate faggots who think that the only way something can be "Star Wars" is to shamelessly rip off A New Hope. To be clear one of those faggots is JJ Abrams.

>don't spoil this 20 year old game pls

NV was a western and didn't feel like Fo1 did. Fo1 was the only good Fallout game in the series. Every other game felt like it was getting further from what made it great. Fo3 (not 4) felt like a good return to form.

There's a reason Fallout franchise fell. It got boring.

user was making a jape because that's 1's twist, not 2's.

Beautifully said, user. NV and Kotor 2 fanboys are ruining the franchises.

No, it was trying to tell you that morality is more complex than an arbitrary light/dark scale

>a 15 year old game is ruining Star Wars more than the shitty movies coming out right now

Pic unrelated?

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Yeah I was speaking more about Fallout.

But after Kotor 2 the game went on hiatus. Then became an mmo with an even worse plot imo

>KotOR 2: dude what if the force was evil lmao
>Mask of the Betrayer: dude what if the gods were evil lmao
>Pillars of Eternity: dude what if the gods were evil and not really gods lmao
>New Vegas: dude what if government was evil lmao

can't obsidian do anything else? it's like all their games are written by ayn rand.

Or, you know, you can just ignore the dialogue if it rocks your boat.
The amount of usskippable dialogue is almost negligible.
The longest section is probably your encounter with Atris, where the dialogue was used instead of an end-of-chapter bossfight.
Kotor 2 is packed with action.

How was Obsidian in any way responsible for Fallout 4 or Fallout 76? That's just bafflingly retarded.

>Hello Kreia
>Why would you do such a thing?
>Light Side points gained
>Dark Side points gained
>Net Light Side shift
>Influence Lost: Kreia
>Influence Gained: Kreia
>Atton: Pure Pazaak

All that does is muddy the water. There are more pros to thinking dualism than centrism. Don't be grey, all that does is give you the idea that anything goes so just do what makes you happy and not think about it. Ignorance is bliss. It's obviously better to realize good and evil exist and then walk your path with that in mind. To the dumb people it looks like grey.

>Mask of the Betrayer: dude what if the gods were evil lmao
If we're talking about this angle in particular, then it's more like "sometimes bad shit happens for a reason".
>Pure Pazaak
I can still hear it. Goddamn it Atton.

An MMO made by Bioware, not Obsidian, that went to great lengths to shit on 2 because Karpyshyn was bitter about people praising 2's writing over 1's.

the ships general

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>Arguing with a woman

I knew someone would post it

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I don't disagree with that. But Fo3 felt like a wasteland survival game. Fo1 felt that way too. 2 felt like a carnival. NV felt like pointless political western. 4 felt like a carnival too. I definitely feel like they're trying to figure out what the fans like when I think 3 felt closer to 1 and they should stick to that.

People liked nihilism basically, user. There's nothing clever about the writing.

Then it fails miserably. It doesn't so much as deconstruct the idea of binary morality as it does just point out sometimes there's unforeseeable consequences to actions. Well, no fucking shit. Morality deals with reasonably foreseeable direct consequences, not dumb strawman arguments. KOTOR2, for example, would argue something like accidentally getting in someone's way in the street and delaying them by a few seconds which results in them being in the wrong place in the wrong time six hours later and getting killed in a car accident is tantamount to murder. That's just fucking stupid.

FO3 is a theme park, survival elements are minimal.

I mean they're all RPGs first and foremost. And I said it FELT like a wasteland survival game. None of the games were actual survival games but play to the aesthetic (or try to). The aesthetic of NV was western and not post apocalyptic survival, which it sells itself upon.

don't be fooled anons, OP meant for this thread to be about New Vegas, all obisidian threads are like this.

And here I am, still waiting for the next NWN2 Crossroad Keep.

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Obsidian seems to have a strong fan presence online. But they don't really make for sales somehow.

Revan knew snacks

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>Jedi Jesus
>Silver lightsaber left behind on Coruscant
>Loved Atris but chose duty and Revan above her
>Never believes through the game that he is still a Jedi, just insists he's nothing but a washed-up old man
>Still can't help his compassion from getting the best of him, trains all possible companions in the Force, never says he's making them Jedi but there is an implication he wants them to make the Jedi into something better than he and the other old relics were.
>Romances the Handmaiden, not because she's like Atris but because she's unlike her and strong enough to stand on her own
>Forges a new, green lightsaber but sticks to blasters and only uses it when fighting the Sith.
Is this the correct way to play?

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What the fuck went wrong?

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>Jedi Jesus
>follow Kreia's teachings and destroy the force, ultimately killing yourself

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both based ways to play

Space jeez

You act like Scourge is an unbecoming name for a Sith Lord. Have you every seen the overarching naming conventions for those edgelords?

>Darth Stryfe
>Darth Maul
>Darth Maladi
>Darth Sidious
>Darth Traya
let's not pretend Scourge is particularly uncreative when it comes to Sith titles

The prequels were the only good ones I can't even sit through the other ones they're so god damn boring

it didn't fall, it rose you faggot. every new game sold more than its predecessor
if you ment story wise, I agree

You've gone too far this time Yea Forums

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Yeah the story is truly horrible.

There's a reason Black Isle Studios went bankrupt. I'm sure all their games got more popular but clearly the cost outweighed the revenue. They didn't even make Fallout 1 btw. The original team left before Fo2.

Lurk two years before posting

If smash can have 10 threads a day kotor can have 1 you massive fucking faggot.

>There's nothing clever about the writing.
Maybe in comparison to other media IPs but for star wars it's fairly clever.

>Normies
Go back.

is it worth investing in your weakest skill to appeal to Kreia?

>tries to rip on the story of KOTOR
>Posts pic of KOTOR 2
fucking weak bait

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Thats because none of that post was worth replying to, like I said.

Nihilus was clever, he was basically a mockery of the BIG POWERFUL OP SITH LORD CAN DESTROY ANYTHING

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No? If you really want to make her happy just listen to her and tell her "ill think about it" whenever she says something.

Traya sitll bugs me. Is it like Tratior?

Did you play the fucking game?

>Not him but
yeah okay retard

Man I hated The Old Republic.

And Kotor 2, while having its moments, were simply following the nihilism themes and played around with it. But it made Bioware's whole plot in Kotor 1 kind of meaningless imo. It didn't expand original themes and threw them out basically.

Suck my cock before posting

You seem upset, newfriend. Perhaps is more your speed?

Its the aussie way of saying ‘betrayer’

It's betrayal. She betrayed and herself was betrayed, it's all her life amounted to before the Exile.

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GO-TO was a good character.
A shame that he was underutilised.

>he doesn't love both
though I will admit they're different games story wise
Drew either having nuclear level asspain about 2 or being such a lazy fuck he didn't play 2 whatsoever and just acted like it didn't exist, my money is on the latter honestly