Smash 6

>Mario gets a brand new moveset based around Cappy, no more Sunshine left overs, shit game.
>Luigi gets a brand new moveset based around the Poltergust 5000.
>Donkey Kong gets a new moveset that isn’t the same basic and boring Smash 64 moveset.
But you need to cut 20 characters plus all Fire Emblem representation
Would you do it?

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How much does Mario even weigh for him to kill even armored enemies by jumping on them?

nah, i like the good ol' movesets

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Imagine being this fucking stupid

You faggots said the same exact same with Ultimate.

This

>he can't into DK's fun as fuck moveset
>changing mario and luigi's movesets to gimmicks
>removing FE because wahh dont like taiwanese sketches

Boy am I glad you're not in charge of anything.

This. Mario and DKs movesets feel much more fun and reliable than all those gimmicky movesets like Joker and Hero. I hope Banjo gets a more original smash64 feeling

no, why would I want that?

Nah. If I was making the Smash 6 roster, this would be it.

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>no godzilla
fake

>Let's make a celebration of a character spanning over 36 years into references from a single game
Fuck off. DK needs new moves though, I'd kill for his coconut gun and an animal buddy move.

He's too big.

>no saki

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Bump.

Based

DLCs are probably going to be 3rd party-only, but I wonder which Nintendo characters are going to be in Smash 6.

Surely another shill Fire Emblem rep and a new shill Pokemon, but I'm curious about the rest.

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>Chuck Norris
>GigaChad

neither can be defeated

I'd just keep the roster from SSBU as is including the DLC lineup which will be base game characters.
But cut every FE character except for Roy and Corrin. And you know what lets ditch Dark Pit and make him an alt skin.
The new characters will be
>Dixie Kong
>Birdo
>Waluigi
>The Chorus Kids
>Geno
For 3rd party:
>Doomguy
>Dante
>Crash Bandicoot
And to throw the Indies a bone
>Shantae
>Freddy Fazbear with Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy as alt skins similar to how Bowser JR and The Hero works
>Frisk or Sans

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>Shilling this Discord yet again
I mean do you WANT your Discord to be spammed with literal gore and porn shit like last time when your Steve meme died?

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fuck off boog. nobody takes you seriously.

I do think it'd be great if the original 12 got various revamps in the next Smash, as we're definitely not getting everyone is here next time and that would make Smash 6 really stand out. The Zelda franchise in general needs some big time shakeups.

That said, the Cappy idea is stupid.

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All of those characters' movesets are fine, asshole.

Maybe replace FLUDD with something else (Mario Tornado would be great), but he doesn't need anything else.

>Impa
>Sami
>Wonder Red
>Skull Kid
>Dillon
>Fawful
>fucking Pious
You are truly my nigga.

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Good to know my nigga boog lives rent free.

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Also good to know this other, but not least, nigga named Boog also lives rent free

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>Astral Chain Charlie
>DxM Dennis
>Springman
>Zero from Mega Man
>Waluigi
>Travis Touchdown
>New Pokemon rep
>New Xeno rep
>New Bayonetta rep
If I had to guess.

I want Byleth as a Pokemon Trainer type character with Claude, Dimitri, and Edelgard.

Characters like Kirby and Samus definitely need to be worked on. They are consistently low tier/boring and their movesets aren't even indicative of what they "do" in their games.
>more "copy" abilities should be mapped to Kirby's A moves
>probably needs more than 5 jumps, more air speed is probably what he really needs
>Samus STILL doesn't have fucking Ice Beam
>Avoid her being broken/campy as fuck by making charge shot chargeable while on the move but she cannot store the charge, like in newer Metroid games

I have posted this question in multiple smash threads and no one ever fucking answers


WHY THE FUCK is Paper Mario still not in the roster?

I am not too bothered by it but its so fucking weird he isnt a playable character or even has a stage apart from the 3DS version

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Soccoreye admitted he's worried about over representing Mario. Nintendo themselves don't seem to hold Paper Mario up that high seeing as he's missing in most spin off games like Party and Kart.

kys boogs

Mario's moveset is fine, but DK's is lame. It does a really poor job of representing the character, his recovery should at least be him launching out of a barrel cannon or something.

I just want an actual Nintendo crossover fighting game now, no more sumo bouncy platform ledge wars.

>Living rent free never felt so good.

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>Soccoreye admitted he's worried about over representing Mario.
Then why the fuck is Daisy an echo and Piranha Plant one of the few newcomers?

I don't give a flying fuck about Mario Luigi or DK, give me a proper Samus.

Oh that's easy, he said in an 2018 interview Shut the fuck up faggot.

>No Ice Beam/Wave Beam/Plasma Beam
>No Speed Booster/Shinespark
>No Power Bombs
>Everything related to the ZSS
Smash Samus does a TERRIBLE job at representing how Samus plays and what she is.

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ZSS is entirely fine, its not the first time Sakurai had to bullshit up a character for the sake of them being on the roster, most of the surprise reps do it

The kit on some Smash 64 characters do need a good look at, but Mario and DK need it the least. A character like Samus especially deserves better.

fucking this, I'm still Salty about Pac-Man's retarded gimmicky moves and all these newcomers having gay random props rather than being an actually functional fighter

>he thinks the next game is going to be another platform fighter

Its going to be a powerstone clone. Better get ready to get monkey paw'd cutfags.

This, I like this. Keep some of the moves but change others.
>B+UP = barrel jump (hold to charge release boost like Diddy's rocket barrel jump)

I would also change DK's final smash from the punch, making that a B combo move, to one of the following:
>an all-out-Donkey Kong family attack (with or without Diddy if he is in the match) or replace the animal buddies
>A combo move finisher similar to BaraCat where DK throws the other fighters into a barrel cannon, bounces off a tire and axe handle slams them into the ground. Only for a minecart to slam into them. Something that would incorporate the history all of the DKC games.

>to fully functioning
One of the most basic characters in 4, who has a basic gimmick on the level of Peach float,or Kirby's and Jigglypuff's jumps, is one of the worst characters on the roster, Bowser Jr.. Most of the gimmick character are perfectly fie viability wise, you don't have to like playing everyone on the roster

I don;t really think DK's moveset needs much touching up honestly. I'd be fine with Spinning Kong going because the most its been rationalized was a NOt!reference to Dixie, but most of his other specials and normald are fine. He doesn't even really have that many canon moves to use, he only really punches and rolls

True. DK doesn't require a lot of touch-ups to his move set. I was simply attempting to think of something new for the character. No guns from DK as that is now tied into Diddy. The barrel cannon jump is sort of an "eh" situation as it ties into the overall DK series but not DK directly. Maybe a vine jump or something?

The one thing that I feel DK does need is a minecart representation. Where either his final smash uses that or he pulls a Wario and rides it. Same with a bouncy tire.

>no whomp king

yes

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No. Cutfags are mentally ill. Mario, Luigi and Donkey Kong are fine and making them gimmicky shit for the purpose of "representation" is cancerous.

If Mario gets redesigned, Nintendo won't be dumb enough to base it around another game that'll be dated by the time the next Smash is out.
God, fuck, I really fucking want a better DK moveset though. It barely even occurs to me now but how is he so generic?
I'd be willing to cut 20 characters, but not ALL fire emblem. Marth, Ike, and Robin are legitimately good additions.
You want 20 cuts? I'll give you 20 cuts.
> Lucas, Wolf, Falco
You can't remove one of the originals, but they're from irrelevant properties, so their clones are overkill at this point.
> Pac-Man, Snake, Simon, Richter, Ryu, Ken, Cloud
Like fuck we're getting THESE licenses back anyway, may as well count them.
> Daisy, Doctor Mario, Pichu, Young Link, Toon Link, Lucina, Chrom
Clones are extremely cuttable.
> Roy, Corrin
Roy is only ever in because people remember him from Melee. Corrin is only still relevant because EVERYONE IS HERE.
> Wii Fit Trainer
The ride was fun and the porn was great, but probably relegated to assist if legacy status doesn't keep them on the roster.
That's 20.
If you're going to be anal about it, I can refrain from calling echoes and lazy clones whole slots. Maybe one third apiece?
So that takes us from 20 to 14 and 2/3. (Richter, Ken, Daisy, Pichu, both alternative Links, Lucina, and Chrom counted.)

If that's the case, I'll also cut these:
> Incineroar, Greninja
I feel bad about removing legitimately interesting playstyles, but let's be real, Greninja is only here because EVERYONE is, and Incineroar is there because Game Freak called in a favor.
Lucario is a generation mascot, Pikachu is an icon, Mewtwo and Jigglypuff are KANTOOOOOO. Pokemon Trainer is probably doable.
> Mii fighters
I get the sense Miis aren't coming back next generation (ergo next Smash) anyway.

Also even though I'm over the requirement, cut Piranha Plant anyway. Fuck him.

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If they add Freddy, they would probably make him an amalgamation of all his 10 billion versions, making them skins. For example:
>Freddy
>Golden Freddy
>Toy Freddy
>Phantom Freddy
>Funtime Freddy
>Orange Funtime Freddy
>Shadow Freddy
>Nightmare Freddy

Take a shower.

> I'm going to quote a random post on this thread and call the guy who made it stinky. You know, for giggles.

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Who cares, post remade movesets

>no Sneed
>no Chuck echo

-22

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Am i late?

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Buy x box branded bodywash

getting rid of jigglypuff? what is wrong with you

IMAGINE FORGETTING DARK PIT HOLY FUCK

Kirbys moveset will no longer have any fighting copy ability and will have each move be based on an ability with no repeated abilitys
Abilitys like mirror,ball,and spark

DK throws barrels

Rob becomes based on everything retro
For tilts and smash attacks he summons diskun
For up B he would use the virtual boy as a grappling hook
Hed have tetris block attacks and an attack where he uses a pong stick to throw a pong pixel

Literally nobody likes Jigglypuff.

I like Jigglypuff

No you don’t

It's not hard to forget dark pit, honestly.

You're right, I was lying just to be contrarian and help that other user out. I think he's trash.

yes, they need to hit the reset button on the series. roster size doesn't make the game good, it makes it polarizing. Make the game good/fresh again and add them back in slowly while balancing it out.

>cutting pac-man

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>Incineroar is there because Game Freak called in a favor.
Sakurai is a known Yea Forumsie.

Smash 6 should only have 25 characters all with brand new movesets.

Dr Mario should be a costume
Only 1 Link
Fire Emblem should be cut entirely except Marth.
Bye bye Jigglypuff, Wii Fit.

Miis are a great idea for the costumes but they should be re-worked from scratch.

>Mario gets a brand new moveset based around Cappy
This is like saying Sonic should get a new moveset based around Wisps.

Sonic never had a single good game so you can do whatever you want with him lad.

Here's the thing about these people,

They are zoomers. although not as popular as she once was, jiggypuff was the second most popular pokemon at the time next to pikachu. back when in 99, everyone loved jiggypuff. at the time the game came out, she was WAY more popular than characters like nes falcon or even samus. she's tied to the smash series it's self because of it. It wouldn't be the same without her.

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It's his TIME to shine!

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>Smash 6
>One of Donkey Kong’s new moves is throwing a barrel

You don't even play Smash, do you?

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Yeah, if Namco is still working on it then Pacman will still be there

Change Sonic's side special to the boost (It has a gauge that refills faster the more hits you land) so that it isn't identical to his down special. That's it, everything else about him is fine as it is.

She’s been an irrelevant unplayable literally who for 20 years, have sex.

>old characters movesets are selectable ala super street fighter 2 turbo
>both movesets are subject to patches
>new donkey kong moveset is based on the arcade games and dk jr
>has a new model resembling donkey kong 94
>both are named donkey kong but the announcer uses different emphasis when announcing their names like fire emblem roy and mario roy

>Freddy is a heavy but also very fast to reference the games
>gimmick is that smash attacks have a 0.5 chance of triggering a jumpscare and stunning the opponent
>jumpscares are very rare so as not to undermine their effect on the physical player
>special moves involve flashing their eyes to quickly stun for a second and summoning balloon boy as a counter to disable shielding
>recovery is being lifted by the puppet
>final smash is being stuffed into a suit which can be knocked around after the final smash is over

Imagine being so butthurt over swords that you cant properly enjoy a shitty party game

>Wario now has a moveset that goes full Land and a moveset that goes full Ware

I never gave a single fuck about jigglypuff, mind you the only reason why it made it in the game is because it’s the same shape as Kirby

An actual good idea?
Nah, never gonna happen

>Indies
No. Let them stay in their indie fighter.

Don’t @ me, but smash needs to be purely first party next time. We’ve strayed too far from Nintendo legacy, especially DLC
>-b-but bing bing wah-
I’m so sick of hearing that. What happened to NINTENDO characters in a NINTENDO game. Why do they keep adding characters from rival consoles? It’s like Sakurai WANTS to drive away his target market

>removing wii fit
>removing ice climbers
>keeping miis
Good god man, what’s wrong with you?

Going back to this, I'm glad all 50 of you are not in charge of anything.

next Smash Bros is going to be a full-blown crossover

>Super Smash Bros.: Nintendo vs. ______

you heard here first

I literally said pac-man would be gone because the license would be, not because I want to.

>Change Sonic's side special to the boost (It has a gauge that refills faster the more hits you land)
Why not just give him pic related instead? And when used in the air he does the wave kick from LW 3DS. I’d also change his d-air to look more like the stomp, f-air to be he spinning trick move from Advance and Rush, make him do a pose after landing a homing attack and lastly merge Spin Dash and Spin Charge into down-b, mashing gives you the dash, holding gives you the charge.

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Either SEGA, for the nostalgia points, or Capcom, because they're crossover sluts.

Yes

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this

>Capcom Vs Nintendo is phase 1 of a 2 part crossover, a capcom made traditional fighting game
>It's a cel-shaded 4 button fighter with only 1 selectable partner and MvC1 styled assists, basically a fighting game that's easier to pick up than mosts to get smash babbies into fighting games
>Phase 2 it's Nintendo Vs Capcom which is a smash game by nintendo but has significantly more capcom characters
>somehow no power stone characters in neither game

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Fuck you nigger bitch

>Sunshine
>shit
Zoomers, go.

hilarious to see 6th gen babies calling others underage

Best Smash ever according to smashfags:
>3 stages (melee's FD; 64's Hyrule Castle, Pokéfloat)
>10 characters (Mario, Paper Mario, Dr Mario, Metal Mario; Cat Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Link, Samus)
>64's graphics (because "muh, soul")
>Melee physics (because "muh, I can't win without exploiting glitches and I like having only 2 characters viable in competitions")

If you unironically want to cut content, fuck you and go play Pokémon, you'll be served.

It is the best 3D mario.
64 is shit, always was.
Waggle 1/2 are shit.
Odyssey is all right.

Based

Pac-Man should've had a simple and easy to use moveset like Mario.

It's supposed to be video game legacy, not just Nintendo

You bet if they do this for all chars. 110% in.

Also: a completely live orchestrated soundtrack.

what´s wrong with miis?

we need more Fire Emblem characters

How would you feel if they gave kirby a new moveset and gave his old moveset to shadow kirby?

>4th parties

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SEGA has no ips.

None they want to acknowledge now, but they do, user. Just look at SASRT.

Nah they have nothing but shitty Arcade IPs nobody gives a fuck about.

> JSR
> shitty arcade IP
> Nights
> shitty arcade IP
> Samba
> shitty- ok I guess I can give you that one
> Golden Axe
> shitty arcade IP

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>Afterburner
>Yakuza
>Virtua Fighter
>Streets of Rage
>Monkey Ball
>Shinobi
>Shenmue
>Phantasy Star
>NiGHTS

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Rework their movesets, Yea Forums. You can keep a max of 2 specials, 2 aerials, 1 tilt, and 1 smash attack the same.

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Sakurai already said the next Smash would have to be a reboot with massive cuts anyway.

No he didn't. He said that topping Ultimate would be something he'll have to address if he'd make a squeal and that Everyone is here is a one time thing. Nothing about a reboot.

Give link his hookshot and gust boomerang back.
Give mario a new down b.
That's all you need.

Literally who? Due already boomers

I just want ACTUAL iconic characters like Toad, Ganon, and Impa, and not just whatever's hot at the moment.

That's a really weak shitpost.

absolutely

No. I do not want any cuts. It took me a month to warm up to Link's changes and I still miss the hook shot grab; even morose now that they finally gave Link a normal grab in the game where they universally nerfed grabs and made tether grabs good.

All that work and you leave out Goku.

Ideal Samus change:
Down B is now melee counter like in Samus Returns. Also like in Samus Returns you can press Neutral B to shoot the enemy you just countered with whatever state the Charge Shot is at.

> Luigi, as stated in the OP, is focused heavily around the poltergust
> Gooigi now shows up for some specials and smash attacks
> Mario gets cappy, most specials are now cappy maneuvers but up B is the same
> tilts use Galaxy flair, are more spinny
> DK gets actual series representation. Barrel throwing, cannon shooting, COCONUT GUN
> has a gimmick of summoning assist characters (cranky, dixie) via barrels and using them to enhance attacks
> link reworked to include more champion powers/ghost summoning/etc
> uses different main weapons too, not just sword
> samus' down b now properly transforms her into morph ball, can be used for higher mobility
> attacks replaced with other weapons
> captain falcon has nothing to work with
> Ness gets critical hits on his smash attacks
> up B is PSI teleport, hovers you in a slow-growing spiral pattern then whips you in a direction you hold. Does damage when you exit the teleport.
> other PSI powers replaced accordingly to make Ness more consistent
> yoshi is already perfect representationally. Nerf down B though, 33% for something so hard to fuck up is ridiculous.
> kirby uses more modern and relevant powers, and more powers for individual moves
> fox is irrelevant and has little to work with
> pikachu now gets iron tail for a side B, otherwise good
> jigglypuff is already good

This is what custom moves in 4 should have been.

Kirby

>Side special is now Plasma (Needle/Arrow/Spark/Wave). It powers up depending on how long it's been since you last used it. Going from a single Sheik needle in damage all the way to Samus' charge shot
>Down special is now Bomb. You can press it quickly to just lay a bomb in front of/underneath you, or hold it to throw it at an arc like Yoshi's egg. Deals 12% damage if it hits an enemy, takes 3 to break a shield. You can spam it quickly like in the games if you just drop it in front of you
Smashes:
>Side-smash is his Stone Uppercut, hits in front of/above him, arcing upwards. Deals up to 21% if fully charged, but even uncharged it comes out frame 15
>Down-Smash is his Ninja's Blossom Storm ability. Hits all around him, about double his radius in size uncharged, and comes out frame 8 - 9, but only deals 5 - 6% damage. Charged, it balloons to be about 3 and a half times his radius in size, but caps out at only 12% damage and moderate knockback
>Up-smash is his Gazer Spiral attack from Yo-Yo. Kirby spins around and goes up and then down. High amounts of end-lag, but deals the most damage of any of his Smash-attacks, maxing out at a Falcon Punch's worth of damage/knockback when fully charged.
Tilts:
>D-tilt stays the same
>U-tilt becomes Marth's U-tilt, but with Kirby's smaller sword, so less range and no tipper
>F-tilt has Kirby impale you with his Beetle ability. Deals 8% damage, very narrow hitbox, but comes out frame 5, and has Pichu f-tilt tier knockback

Aerials:
>D-air is the Dive Bomb attack from Wing. If Kirby hits the ground, it creates a shockwave the goes through shields a la Dedede's up special, but doesn't do much damage. Kirby on the way down has a hitbox under his head that deals 14% damage. Shreds shields, can be cancelled after a second of falling
>B-air has Kirby swing backwards with his hammer. Comes out frame 14, and hits only barely behind him, but has the same kill power as Ganondorf's or D3's b-airs

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They need to bring custom moves back

>konichiwa, I am Masahiro Sakurai
>we will not be making another Smash Bros. game... HOWEVER we are working on a spiritual successor that opens up new possibilities. Please take a look

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>Luigi
Change his Down-b to pull out an E. Gadd tool. They increase his range and damage a la a Beam Sword, and are good for throwing.

>Mario
Give him his Galaxy spin, change FLUDD for throwing Cappy (low-to-the-ground projectile that he can jump on), and make his Smash attacks use more fire

Give Jigglypuff Moon Blast as her neutral-b. Make it work like hero's Kazap.

no

Pac has one of the best movesets in Smash history. Simple and easy to use normals with extremley complicated specials makes it so beginners can use him and pros can learn all of his shit. Would be the most bland, boring character if they focused more on making him like in his platformers. The though of him having a falling down air makes me shudder

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yeah

>the game has less fighters, but each fighter available plays based on his games original play style. Link plays straight up like a Zelda game with Zelda controls, Mario plays like a Mario game with Mario controls.

>Freddy
>No Shovel Knight

>Every ultimate DLC fighter recycle moves from past characters

Has sakurai run out of ideas? Are we reaching the limit of smash?

I feel like a nintendo vs capcom game would be underwhelming.

What if freddy’s side special had him throw balloon boy at another character and balloon boy wouldn’t let them attack until he let go after a while? I thought that would be a good way of translating balloon boy’s mechanic of stealing your flashlight into smash.

I want koopa kid in smash and have him basically be the playable equivalent of a bowser space.

>U-air is an upward's swing with Stick. Extremely long range - able to hit the top platform of Battle Field from a single hop, and fast as well, but only deals 5% damage.
>F-air stays the same to rep Fighter
>N-air becomes his Ice Spin from Ice. More horizontal range, same damage, slightly more end-lag.

Attributes
>Gets a tether grab (uses beam)
>If he holds up, he will descend slowly as he pulls out a parasol. Gets crazy fast aerial mobility while doing this
>Shielding has the same aesthetics as the shield from when he has the Mirror ability
>Can shoot a small hadoken (courtesy of Fighter, think Dan Hibiki's) by imputing quarter-circle-forward. Deals way more damage if he's sucked up Ken or Ryu

New Kirby stage based off of Star Allies. Additional music:
youtube.com/watch?v=80cNiB-rMuc
youtube.com/watch?v=zserMZxksh8
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There's pretty much no way to make a unique aerial/tilt/jab/smash anymore without getting really out there, like with Bayonetta. There's a finite number of ways to swing a sword, throw a punch, or belly flop.

That being said, I want Elma in Smash just because she'd be the most unique sword-fighter possible. It'd be pretty damn hard to make her generic considering she uses swords, guns, and grenades.

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>people are removing echos as their 22
Lazy faggots

Look I don't care about FE either but they deserve to at least have Marth and Robin

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people already speculating shit for the next smash game, AGAIN. Fucking why, the content for this smash is not over yet

The only N64 veteran that really needs a moveset overhaul is Samus and maybe Kirby to just make him more functional. The older characters may not have the vast options and gimmicks of some Sm4sh/Ultimate characters, and some could really use new moves (like giving DK the Coconut Gun and actual decent recovery) but the normalfags the characters they actually recognize. Imagine some 30 year old something playing for the first time since Brawl and picking Mario only to find out he's now centered around a hat from a game that will likely be irrelevant by the time Smash 6 comes out. Let the new characters show off what Smash can do while keeping older ones familiar and simple.
>m-muh fire emblem
Get fucked nerd, hope Samurai adds Byleth just to spite you.

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I would rather see Mario and Luigi get moves based on the hammers from all the RPGs.

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Can we just report this bot already?

I just want Ridley to return. Rool for the Roolbros would be nice too.

This

Fixed

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All I care about when Mario's concerned is getting rid of FLUDD. It doesn't do jack shit, yeah you might be able to gimp someone's recovery but that's if you bother to charge the stupid thing. I barely even remember he's got it half the time because it has a single utility, and anything it could possibly do otherwise is covered by Mario's other, far more useful, specials. I just want the Mario Tornado, man, that and the old down air.
Sunshine has had its big tropical cock in too many goddamn video games, everything Mario-related on the gamecube after 2003 was bursting at the seams with Sunshine stuff, the design of the special stages influenced four entire 3D Mario games, Mario's been saddled with FLUDD in three and a half smash games, I don't know who at Nintendo has such a big boner for it but they need a vacation, apparently.

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Please ignore this, this is the wrong image, this is the correct one.

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>Would be the most bland, boring character if they focused more on making him like in his platformers
yeah, I'm glad we got based epic "sprite of an enemy hits all sides" attacks

Those last three gimmicks have to go. you're reworking him, not making him a PM character.
Its blatant overcompensation and gimmick bloat

>Mario gets a brand new moveset based around Cappy

Why would you want Mario to have a moveset based on one game that will be irrelevant one day?

Most characters are fine as is. Mario has loads of different moves from different games.

>dislikes sunshine
Smoothbrain that can’t appreciate the best movement and setting in a 3d Mario game.

but crash is already gonna be a dlc in ultimate

Threadly reminder...COPE HE’S NEVER GETTING IN, MICRO TRANSACTIONS IN CTR:NF SHOULD PROVE ACTIVISION SHOULDN’T BE TRUSTED!!!!

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>MTX being the reason

Surprisingly no. It's because Activision are cheap and lazy fucks. The japanese release of CTR is a joke.

>plus all Fire Emblem representation
YES
Fuck fire emblem

The games don't even sell well, there is NO reason for 4+ characters from that shit series in every game

This was really easy.

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Yo yo before the jannies inevitably take this down, if you're gonna shill this. Uh can you or anybody really be kind enough to post the link to that other discord? I think it was called "Papa Steve Raidercorps" or something to that extent. No rhyme or reason Just wanna check it out. Thanks in advance.

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Grandfather clause. Imagine if Samus was introduced during 4.

Dunno about Fox though, he seems fine. Link and PIkachu too for that matter.

>thinking using ghosts for smash is bad

he also reps namco arcade as a whole

>Wolf
not a clone
>Incineroar
Sakurai is a wrestlerfag

you do realize they stopped this mentality as far as Melee right

Fag

Obsessed

>Alienate fans of characters who would get cut including those of an entire franchise
>Alienate players of established characters who have been used to their moves for decades
>Get nothing of value in return

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>Keep Falco but remove Wolf
Why get rid of the more unique and interesting one?

I mean I only called out the fact that they're shilling their discord for a tad bit too much and I used two Boogs for comedic effect so Idk bro.

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Here's you 'ster, bro.

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Because he's an alternate version of an existing character that would need an entirely different moveset. It's pointless to add him over anyone else with a unique moveset, Mario is already playable.

And they shouldn’t have. Now it’s become MUGEN

Legit better than generic moves already used by other characters

But third parties were welcome in 64, just back then they were thinking mostly for "games that came out in Nintendo in general" rather than strict Nintendo. So even then it's a false idea.

the guy must be a macrofag

>No heihachi