>western characters can never be in
be honest. were you one of these people? If so, what was your logic for that? Genuinely curious.
Western characters can never be in
this thread has happened like 200 times. please stop. please do anything else with your free time
rulefags are retarded and they have been for over a decade now
why anyone still makes up rules after snake's inclusion in brawl is beyond me but here we are
Anyone who thinks there's any hardset rule to who can and can't be in Smash is a complete fucking retard. Literally since Melee they've disproven any assumptions about who gets in.
incorrect. i don't care about banjo in-out bullshit in the slightest. i'm just tired of smash threads with literally no substance. you people make it impossible to enjoy and talk about the game. you are the worst. do literally anything else with your free time. faggot
what I don't understand is how they could even say that after Shovel Knight got in as an assist trophy.
My logic for Banjo not getting in was "he's owned by a direct competitor", I didn't know Nintendo and Microsoft were, like, totes BFFs now.
Are you seriously complaining about threads having no substance on Yea Forums? What, do you want me to wipe your ass for you too, princess? None of these threads are quality, who gives a fuck about a thread talking about a game when you get 20 threads about tits or e-celebs or politics a minute?
spoken like a proper newfag tourist only here to shitpost. thanks for exposing yourself as a cumguzzling faggot. at least i know i'm not you
do literally anything else with your free time other than complaining about threads on Yea Forums
Surely that went out of the window with Diddy Kong
not even beforehand with the whole "play together" campaign they had for Minecraft? or even Cuphead coming over?
Yeah, you don't sound like a newfag, whining because people are talking about Smash a lot. What a stunning new thing that's never happened before.
Faggot.
I didn't know about those either. I didn't even get a Switch until this May, so I was completely out of the loop.
Are people seriously ignoring that Bankazu are legitimately a special case? They had the perfect loophole to get into smash that no other 3rd party western character has.
Cope
I'm not saying it's impossible for a western 3rd party to get in. Just that none of them have as good as a shot banjo had. i want crash so bad
>They had the perfect loophole to get into smash that no other 3rd party western character has.
explain?
It should be obvious...
You've dealt with pretty much a year of Steve threads popping up 5 times a day, you can deal with Banjo posting for a few months.
explain for the class then
>pic
wouldn't it make more sense for it to be Diddy? Those two have actually met before
I’m convinced we’ll get Crash with Coco alt
The literal only thing caused by Banjo and Kazooie's status as lost Nintendo characters was the fan demand. None of the suits, or Sakurai, were remotely affected by it, I assure you.
Nobody in that business meeting was saying "well, we can't NOT bring Banjo home".
>Coco alts
that's the dream if it's possible
keep the hope alive, user. As of right now, he still has a very open window of opportunity
would also give me a good laugh as another "former Sony exclusive" joining the roster and shitting on Sunny
What is considered Western to you? Rare is a britbong company
not asian/japanese centered companies like the rest of the entire cast is owned under?
Let me guess
I say
>Europe
>Not western
And you say it's the middle east
I knew it was an unwritten rule, but I also knew they were on track to break all of those rules. So maybe?
never breaking the non vg character rule
I was skeptical, because Japan just isn't interested in any western games.
The one possible exception might be Crash Bandicoot back in the day, and even then his design had to be drastically changed.
even for CTR Nitro Fueled, they changed his design on the japanese boxart right?
Do japs just find him hideous or something?
The biggest offense was his massive teeth, but remake Crash generally doesn't have that.
>Sonic and Marios eyes and teeth are white
>Both are a hue of yellow on Crash
What did the artist mean by this?
Crash brushes his teeth with his own piss
I'm glad Banjo made it in but I really thought they were gonna put in Steve or some shit because Banjo is a dead series and Joker/Luminary are both the new hotness
BK was originally planned for Smash 64, so no.
Yeah, I find that pretty bad. Crash is clean and fresh.
Cloud was added before he was even on a single Nintendo console. There's no rules.
>kingdom hearts
>theatrhythm
>not only did Sakurai step outside the comfort zone of nippon to ask a western company for a collaboration
>he went so far as to track down Grant Kirkhope to join the list of smash’s music artists despite the language barrier
How does this man keep finding ways to be so based?
>Western characters can never be in
>Meanwhile we have K.Rool, Dark Samus, Diddy sitting in base roster
I personally don't give a fuck about Banjo, but if those three can be in the base roster, I have no reason to believe why western characters can't get in through dlc. Besides, there were so many people already requesting him so much, it was almost like foreshadowing.
To be fair, all of those characters may be western created, but they’re all owned by a Japanese company.
Banjo broke new ground because he was western made and is still western owned.
Those arent western chapters when they're owened by japanese companies have have always been part of Japanese franchises. I dont know why the fuck people call them western characters, well I l do obviously but their reasoning has always been fucking stupid and irrelevant. Smash doesnt divide characters by characters designer, it does it by franchise. No one fucking divides anything anywhere by character deisgners region, it's absolutely fucking retarded.
Still, it really doesn't change the fact that they were all created in the west. Only difference is that those three were more easy to get in because Nintendo owns them.
This is one of the view threads up right now that isn't: eceleb related, twitter screen cap bullshit, porn, waifushit, political shit, or complete bait.
It also pales in comparison to the months of "never ever" posting and steveposting.
I think the issue was, people didn’t think Sakurai would collab with a western dev/company because of the amount of detail he tries to put into this series and there would obviously be a bit of a language barrier.
Although this was somewhat broken since smash 4 when they added trophies of Rayman and BitTripRunner. Even more so when they showed off Shovel Knight as an assist and Shantae as a spirit.
But by then, they’ve already moved the goalpost to: “yeah, but they’ll never do that for a playable fighter!”
>no frogger
It's shit
The worst they've ever tried to do is ask if they were interested in being bought. Aside from that nothing much else.
He's a game developer that treats 3rd parties with love and respect because he knows that each of them have a group of fans that he doesn't want to let down.
Based Froggerfag
Hero got a lot of Goku shit on him, how the fuck are you faggots not pleased with that?
He even shoots his Kafrizz spell like a fucking kamehameha. Sakurai has to have known he was trying to appeal
>western characters can never be in
Diddy Kong was in Brawl 11 years ago
Yeah, he specifically mentioned in the Hero video that Hero's animations are meant to convey the dynamism of Toriyama's art. Which more or less means "we made then move like DBZ characters." I honestly think a big reason behind Hero's inclusion was appealing to Gokufags in the West.
There is only one rule that roster fags should know: Did they originate from a video game?
>his up air ‘vegeta’ kick
>his magic burst animation where he lifts his hands like he’s using a spirit bomb
Honestly, I kind of love it
No but I think after that article when sakurai had problems dealing with english game companies makes me think he's autistic since he could just get a translator to help with that
The real person to blame is Sakurai for listening to the internet at all.
I know the American government would fuck up an election by doing that because they're retards, but jfc have some decency, Japan.
No, but I did think Banjo wouldn't get in because I'd expected the DLC to be characters that would try to pull in a new audience instead of appealing to the Smash fanbase mostly, where a large majority of the Banjo fanbase is already a part of.
he's reeling in those xbox bros, of course
I didn't expect Banjo to get in, but the >western character "rule" was the dumbest excuse for it. Doubly so seeing as they already have to bend the rule because of Diddy and Dark Samus
Yeah that makes sense but then they would say >no western owned ips
then people mentioned how shovel knight is western owned so they changed it to >no western owned ips as playable fighter
How am I so autistic that i fuck up the green text
To be fair, Shovel Knight's game was actually published in Japan by Nintendo, making it a first party game there. That probably made it easier to include him as an AT.